Posted by Old John on Sun, Nov 15, 2015, at 11:47 PM:
The new age "We are open and inclusive" movement fostered by the worldwide epidemic of progressive liberalism is IMO bearing fruit. The fruit of evil it is, is that which was once held in check by evil of a different kind. Brutal dictators of regimes held at bay during cold war tensions kept the radical Muslims in check.
If anyone passed over the video posted by Legalize Liberty, I suggest you take time to watch.
"Watch this video before youtube takes it down again. Obama wants to bring this trash over here. Europe will be unrecognizable real soon. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44vzMNG2...
-- Posted by Legalize Liberty on Sat, Nov 14, 2015, at 1:27 AM "
The people that should be [through their core beliefs] scorning swine are lower than swine.
They tout their plans to out populate the Christian countries by forcibly integrating and imposing their will on a soon to be minority population.
Look around, how many communities in America have growing Muslim populations of peaceful immigrants patiently waiting to increase their participation as elected office holders in our cities and states?
Meanwhile we in America are worried about Mexicans, mostly of Christian faith, being here illegally. The liberals are so worried we will offend someone's rights that they allow and sanction the relatively small portion of Mexican criminals to the point they have free round trip tickets to come and go even after they have repeatedly proved to be criminals.
The rampant liberal political correctness and open minded folly that has old ladies at airports searched while one wearing a burka goes through because some government employee considerers his union paycheck at risk for profiling is a product of the new PC.
Notice that even when reporting on a video of a beheading the media masters refer to the lowlife doing the deed as the "alleged" attacker.
England, France, Germany and so many others have brought these woes upon themselves by being open and inclusive, being the nice guys bent on being charitable to humanity. We can see that easily from here but are blind to the same in America.
Now would be the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country. Get rid of the long time bureaucrats, career politicians of wealth of both parties and elect people that will stand up to the threats of the liberal progressive disease that fails to make the U.S.A a country of global leadership through strength of military and economic power.
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Gee Theorist, are the jihads taking over in south Cape? I don't think I'll join your book club as the results are predictable with you as example of such.
-- Posted by Old John on Mon, Nov 16, 2015, at 7:48 AM
The question now is, what to do to stop the flow of Islam to Europe. Posted by Rick' on Mon, Nov 16, 2015, at 1:59 AM
Rick: The goal of Islam is to covert the world to Islam by the sword or in the case of Europe and the USA by those Liberal PC folks who cater to Muslim's demands. It helps when they have a closet Muslim as President of the USA.
-- Posted by Truth Slinger on Mon, Nov 16, 2015, at 8:02 AM
I am deeply saddened by what is happening...in Europe and in south Cape Girardeau. -- Posted by Theorist on Mon, Nov 16, 2015, at 5:39 AM
I am deeply saddened that there are people like you who believe that people of other countries and cultures have a right to freely emigrate in ANY numbers to ANY country in the world. That there is no such thing as the rule of law or the rights of citizens in a country.
Ever read the book "In the Skin of the Jihadist"?
"There are three types of fighters, those on the front, those who become suicide bombers, and those who return to France to punish infidels."
-- Posted by not_sorry on Mon, Nov 16, 2015, at 8:13 AM
The Policies of the Leftists are going to affect all of us, and to our detriment!
-- Posted by Have Wheels Will Travel - ΑΩ on Mon, Nov 16, 2015, at 8:27 AM
Old John
I need to add, very thought provoking and very TRUE. Thanks for posting the truth. There will always be deniers like Theorist and Common.
Bet you would be hard put to find a denier in Paris right now. But how long will the indignation last? We seem to have already forgotten that 911 was definitely NOT carried out by a bunch of "Radical Farmboys" from SEMO.
-- Posted by Have Wheels Will Travel - ΑΩ on Mon, Nov 16, 2015, at 8:52 AM
Common has proven many times in the past that he cares little about terrorism in the world or the US for that matter - as long as he's safe in Daisy or Scopus.
Theorist's logic is foolish. Why are the Syrians leaving Syria? Because of the killing and hate. So her answer to the question "Who will cry for Europe" is to plead to everyone to invite the very hateful killers to other countries.
These people have caused their own hell by adopting a radical form of Islam into their households and practicing it. It turned on them in a bad way. The irony is - the soft, illogical liberal left will be attacked by these people when they get here. Theorist will be required to wear a burka and cover her face, stop posting on the internet and give up alcohol.
-- Posted by not_sorry on Mon, Nov 16, 2015, at 9:00 AM
-- Posted by Dug on Mon, Nov 16, 2015, at 9:00 AM
And to follow a respectful so many paces as her husband dictates behind him.
-- Posted by Have Wheels Will Travel - ΑΩ on Mon, Nov 16, 2015, at 9:09 AM
Who would have thought they would hear an American president say that people that are willing die are hard to stop.
Who would have thought they would hear a French president say at the same time, its past time to try stopping them and is now time to destroy them.
Meanwhile Obama explains that it our duty to invite victims of radicals into our country and to understand we are not at war with Islam.
IMO, devout Islam has and always has had in it's tenet to destroy all other faiths.
-- Posted by Old John on Mon, Nov 16, 2015, at 9:59 AM
Posted by Old John on Mon, Nov 16, 2015, at 9:59 AM
OJ: It's in their Koran. To convert or die by the sword....that's why in the 21st century the Islamist kill by beheading those who won't convert.
-- Posted by Truth Slinger on Mon, Nov 16, 2015, at 10:12 AM
Curious how the refugees haven't headed east toward Russia . Why ? Could it be because Putin would not allow such non-sense and the refugees know this is true?
-- Posted by Rick' on Mon, Nov 16, 2015, at 11:17 AM
Rick: Very true
-- Posted by Truth Slinger on Mon, Nov 16, 2015, at 11:27 AM
"Does the Leader of America not know the possible consequences of over whelming Islam refugees ?"
If our leader, who is sympathetic to all causes that are to the benefit of Muslims visits this atrocity on America, then if just one of those thousand turns out to be a Terrorist posing as a refugee, Obama should be tried as a conspiratorial aid to any misdeed they commit as well as tried for treason. He will be violating his oath of office to allow in a terrorist, even one. His job is to protect America not destroy it.
As stupid as this stunt of his is, he has pulled off another right under our noses and on the heels of the attack on Paris.... this stupid fool has released 5 known terrorists on to the world stage.
-- Posted by Have Wheels Will Travel - ΑΩ on Mon, Nov 16, 2015, at 11:57 AM
If you are alive today, you will never out live the damage war criminals Bush and Cheney have done to this country. Never.
-- Posted by left turn on Mon, Nov 16, 2015, at 12:27 PM
He has it down pat , 7 years worth of experience .
-- Posted by Rick' on Mon, Nov 16, 2015, at 12:20 PM
You are dead on there.... it's probably Bush's fault. Now which one, George 1, George 2 or Jeb?
-- Posted by Have Wheels Will Travel - ΑΩ on Mon, Nov 16, 2015, at 12:28 PM
Now that's funny, I'm responding to Rick that it would be blamed on Bush and the Left Wingnut beats me posting so by a full minute.
-- Posted by Have Wheels Will Travel - ΑΩ on Mon, Nov 16, 2015, at 12:45 PM
One could only have hoped that "Rick Prime" would be a more advanced and improved version of plain "Rick," but no such luck.
Then again he has such exceptional company as role models to agree with him and egg him on... (sarcasm)
-- Posted by commonsensematters on Mon, Nov 16, 2015, at 2:10 PM
Common, Aren't you supposed to be guarding the Whitewater River to report any dhows coming upstream.
-- Posted by Old John on Mon, Nov 16, 2015, at 2:16 PM
Why? They are never going to get here or even a few miles into the Persian Gulf or the Mediterranean.
You all are the only ones that are terrified of the JV's. And frankly, it's really hard to believe why you are so frightened. Duggie even thinks that they are going to make women here wear burkas. He has come up with a few more absurd conclusions, but not many.
-- Posted by commonsensematters on Mon, Nov 16, 2015, at 3:06 PM
Posted by commonsensematters on Mon, Nov 16, 2015, at 3:06 PM
Common: Do you think that the Parisians are scared of the JV team?
-- Posted by Truth Slinger on Mon, Nov 16, 2015, at 3:19 PM
The people in France were not terrified of the JV team, they were so unconcerned they invited them in. I guess you, common think we should be happy have to them coming here too.
-- Posted by Old John on Mon, Nov 16, 2015, at 3:21 PM
They are never going to get here or even a few miles into the Persian Gulf or the Mediterranean.Duggie even thinks that they are going to make women here wear burkas. -- Posted by commonsensematters on Mon, Nov 16, 2015, at 3:06 PM
Oh sage of Scopus - news flash.
They are here. They already require women to wear burkas.
What happened? The tin foil come off your head and damage your TV antenna? Did the big wind storm blow down your internet tower?
Did you not know they're here and they do require women to wear burkas? Just another example why you can't be trusted or believed. Even the White House confirms they are here...
-- Posted by not_sorry on Mon, Nov 16, 2015, at 5:47 PM
From the liberal American press - even they see through Obama and Common:
"It's beyond surreal that the president of France is making the American president look like a cheese-eating amateur.
The terror attacks in Paris Friday took scores of lives and thrust the entire civilized world into paroxysms of grief and despair. Then something unexpected happened.
No sooner had ISIS claimed responsibility for the butchery than Hollande got in front of TV cameras and told the traumatized public that the savagery was an "act of war.'' He vowed to pound ISIS into submission.
Compare that to the American president's initial reaction. President Obama, who once ridiculed ISIS (or "ISIL," as he calls it) by comparing it to a junior varsity squad, was loath to point fingers. "I don't want to speculate at this point in terms of who was responsible for this," he said."
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Who would vote for this incompetent Acorn attorney twice? I can see him sitting in the White House basement with his bicycle helmet on in case something happens. What a child.
-- Posted by not_sorry on Mon, Nov 16, 2015, at 5:55 PM
Theorist is married ? If so , I wouldn't want to be the man who tries to dictate her , that could turn out ugly , real ugly...
-- Posted by Rick' on Mon, Nov 16, 2015, at 5:46 PM
I presumed her to be married Rick, not that long ago she made a statement about becoming a new Mother. Of course I understand, marriage is not a prerequisite for having children.
-- Posted by Have Wheels Will Travel - ΑΩ on Mon, Nov 16, 2015, at 7:17 PM
Theorist must be young by being able to quote her great grandmother so vividly.
-- Posted by Old John on Mon, Nov 16, 2015, at 7:25 PM
They are never going to get here or even a few miles into the Persian Gulf or the Mediterranean. Duggie even thinks that they are going to make women here wear burkas. -- Posted by commonsensematters on Mon, Nov 16, 2015, at 3:06 PM
Common: Girlfriend and I were at Culver's this afternoon and guess who came in and sat at the table beside us....a woman in a complete burka with only her brown eyes showing along with a kid and her Arab husband. Don't know but he could be a sleeper cell just waiting to attack the fine citizens of Bollinger County.
BTW Rick, we left before they did so I did not see if she walked a few paces behind her man.
-- Posted by Truth Slinger on Mon, Nov 16, 2015, at 7:26 PM
Posted by Old John on Mon, Nov 16, 2015, at 7:25 PM
OJ: I can quote some sayings of Pres. Lincoln and I'm not young. ☺☺
-- Posted by Truth Slinger on Mon, Nov 16, 2015, at 7:32 PM
Common: Girlfriend and I were at Culver's this afternoon and guess who came in and sat at the table beside us....a woman in a complete burka with only her brown eyes showing along with a kid and her Arab husband-- Posted by semo471 on Mon, Nov 16, 2015, at 7:26 PM
Can't be true! Obama doesn't believe this so Common doesn't either. If the White House don't say it, he don't believe it!
-- Posted by not_sorry on Mon, Nov 16, 2015, at 7:40 PM
I see strange looking people every time I go to Walmart, the strangest are speaking English. Seems more often I am wondering about all these young people speaking jibbar-jab and using the blue cards.
-- Posted by Old John on Mon, Nov 16, 2015, at 7:58 PM
That is false!...But whatever...
-- Posted by Theorist on Mon, Nov 16, 2015, at 7:22 PM
What part of what I said is false Theorist? I will go to the archives if need be.
-- Posted by Have Wheels Will Travel - ΑΩ on Mon, Nov 16, 2015, at 7:58 PM
"Theorist will be required to wear a burka and cover her face, stop posting on the internet and give up alcohol."
"Did you not know they're here and they do require women to wear burkas?"
Wow. Someone sees a burka and that means "every" female will have to wear one...
That's just plain dumb. But then what else is new considering the source.
-- Posted by commonsensematters on Mon, Nov 16, 2015, at 8:02 PM
Common, We never know, Theorist covering her face may be a good thing or bad thing depending on your perspective.
-- Posted by Old John on Mon, Nov 16, 2015, at 8:06 PM
Wonder what he thought about you....I mean, who goes to Culver's in the afternoon?? Must be something wrong with him...and he drug his wife along too!-- Posted by Theorist on Mon, Nov 16, 2015, at 7:29 PM
Theorist: Such a weak point, you might as well said nothing. BTW, the place was half full and we usually go to a restaurant when we are hungry.
-- Posted by Truth Slinger on Mon, Nov 16, 2015, at 8:07 PM
Posted by Old John on Mon, Nov 16, 2015, at 8:06 PM
OJ: I am speechless. ☺☺
-- Posted by Truth Slinger on Mon, Nov 16, 2015, at 8:10 PM
Someone sees a burka and that means "every" female will have to wear one...-- Posted by commonsensematters on Mon, Nov 16, 2015, at 8:02 PM
Weak deflection... you're arguing with yourself. No one said all women had to. You denied that they're here. But they are here.
That might work with your weak president but it's tougher on speak out than in an Obama press conference. You have to have real answers here and people don't cut you slack when you lie.
Just because you worship the man doesn't mean you're president. Sorry to break your heart...
-- Posted by not_sorry on Mon, Nov 16, 2015, at 8:15 PM
I heard Charles Krauthammer call obama delusional about isis saying that delusional was being complimentary. Coming from a learned man as Mr Krauthammer I would also like to compliment Mr common.
-- Posted by rocknroll on Mon, Nov 16, 2015, at 8:26 PM
"Why? They are never going to get here or even a few miles into the Persian Gulf or the Mediterranean."
Common you cannot be dumb enough to believe that. There are already sleeper cells at work here in this country and the biggest fool to ever inhabit the oval office is bringing in thousands of refugees which has already been proven in France to be infiltrated by ISIS. They are here and there will be more of them.
-- Posted by Have Wheels Will Travel - ΑΩ on Mon, Nov 16, 2015, at 8:30 PM
start searching!
-- Posted by Theorist on Mon, Nov 16, 2015, at 8:21 PM
You haven't yet told me what part of what I said was not true.... what is it?
-- Posted by Have Wheels Will Travel - ΑΩ on Mon, Nov 16, 2015, at 8:34 PM
Seminky...your point?
(you have none!)
Mine was that you are an alarmist! and...just as you were judging him, perhaps he was judging you, and not favorably at that...-- Posted by Theorist on Mon, Nov 16, 2015, at 8:10 PM
Miss Pinkett: Why don't you get a life. The Arab might have been thinking - that guy sure is lucky to have such a beautiful wife.
-- Posted by Truth Slinger on Mon, Nov 16, 2015, at 9:04 PM
Political refugees fleeing the violence of civil war and such atrocities inflicted on the innocent congers the notion of women, children and old folks. Seems that 70% of that exodus into European countries were made up of young men.
Looks like even the liberals of Europe could have smelled a rat.
Stay tuned to see if Obama has a soft spot for rats.
-- Posted by Old John on Mon, Nov 16, 2015, at 9:14 PM
After Pres. Pinky's press conference today, Uncle Joe doesn't look all that bad.
-- Posted by Truth Slinger on Mon, Nov 16, 2015, at 9:20 PM
Stop the fear-mongering that just shouldn't fly in the face of basic humanity. -- Posted by Theorist on Tue, Nov 17, 2015, at 5:31 AM
The only fear-mongering going on around here is you and your abject hysteria over guns.
You are dead wrong - the US has NO obligation to take in Syrian refugees or mexican illegals. Period. Is that why you constantly push for more taxes? More money out of the pockets of hard working Americans?
-- Posted by not_sorry on Tue, Nov 17, 2015, at 7:11 AM
"refuse to be afraid, to refuse to be so ruled by our fear that we compromise our most important values."
The SO conservatives don't ever seem to understand this.
-- Posted by commonsensematters on Tue, Nov 17, 2015, at 7:14 AM
The Brothers Tsarnev...
-- Posted by Shapley Hunter on Tue, Nov 17, 2015, at 7:34 AM
"refuse to be afraid, to refuse to be so ruled by our fear that we compromise our most important values." The SO conservatives don't ever seem to understand this. -- Posted by commonsensematters on Tue, Nov 17, 2015, at 7:14 AM
Yep. Imagine those stupid French. All running around scared over a few bombs, guns and terrorist killing 130 people.
Why do the French have military all around Paris now? Are they "so ruled by their fear" that they compromise their most important values?
Like your president and the French you're a reactionist with empty words. You don't want anything done until a few hundred Americans die. As you always say, as long as it doesn't happen in Bollinger County you could care less.
You're a fool Common, that's for sure. And you prove it every single time you post.
-- Posted by not_sorry on Tue, Nov 17, 2015, at 7:34 AM
-- Posted by Old John on Tue, Nov 17, 2015, at 8:34 AM
Posted by Old John on Tue, Nov 17, 2015, at 8:34 AM
OJ: The only thing that the government has under control is the free handouts to the blood sucking freeloaders in return for their votes....payola.
-- Posted by Truth Slinger on Tue, Nov 17, 2015, at 8:46 AM
"refuse to be afraid, to refuse to be so ruled by our fear that we compromise our most important values."
The SO conservatives don't ever seem to understand this.-- Posted by commonsensematters on Tue, Nov 17, 2015, at 7:14 AM
Common & Theorist: If the Greatest Generation believed that then we all would be speaking Japanese and German.
-- Posted by Truth Slinger on Tue, Nov 17, 2015, at 8:50 AM
FDR locked them in internment camps. Carter, essentially, did the same with Cuban refugees, for a short time.
-- Posted by Shapley Hunter on Tue, Nov 17, 2015, at 9:07 AM
"James Holmes..."
I assume there is some point to that, though I cannot fathom what it may be.
Near as I can figure, you are suggesting that, since we can grow our own killers, we should not mind if we import a few, besides.
-- Posted by Shapley Hunter on Tue, Nov 17, 2015, at 9:20 AM
"The red man has been locked in internment camps for a long time , the USA Government shrugs , waves it off with a throw of a hand . I'm curious to see where the 85,000 go."
And so, you see the problem with letting refugees flow in unchecked...
-- Posted by Shapley Hunter on Tue, Nov 17, 2015, at 9:28 AM
Europe will be ok, Kohn Jerry has wimparted his isdom.
-- Posted by Old John on Tue, Nov 17, 2015, at 9:37 AM
Rick, I can read or listen but generally avoid his face moving on a screen.
I have heard that even the liberal reporters are starting to ask him hard questions.
-- Posted by Old John on Tue, Nov 17, 2015, at 9:50 AM
The COA crowd, specifically Theorist and Common are working on the problem. Obama being the first half black President must not be made to look incompetent.
COA as opposed to CYA/
-- Posted by Have Wheels Will Travel - ΑΩ on Tue, Nov 17, 2015, at 9:58 AM
New immigrants and refugees are under much stricter scrutiny than we give our homegrown...(see availability of firearms)
-- Posted by Theorist on Tue, Nov 17, 2015, at 9:57 AM
If that were true but it is not!
Security experts are telling us there are no records/databases we can excess in those countries where these people are coming from.
-- Posted by Have Wheels Will Travel - ΑΩ on Tue, Nov 17, 2015, at 10:01 AM
Theorist, Federal government can't keep the bad apples out of the welfare barrels; so how do trust them to screen out the diseased and contagious apples from the refugee barrels?
It only takes one bad apple to spoil the whole barrel.
-- Posted by Old John on Tue, Nov 17, 2015, at 10:01 AM
"we can excess in those "
Oh Lord, please send me a proof reader for Christmas.... make that "we can access in those"
-- Posted by Have Wheels Will Travel - ΑΩ on Tue, Nov 17, 2015, at 10:07 AM
We should take up a collection for Wheels to buy a bigger keyboard. :)
-- Posted by Old John on Tue, Nov 17, 2015, at 10:15 AM
The German people bore some responsibility for looking the other way while they were fat and fit on the spoils of war. That is why they were forced to view the concentration camps immediately after they were liberated.
-- Posted by Old John on Tue, Nov 17, 2015, at 10:19 AM
"Did he judge an entire race? Yes! He was wrong!"
Yeah.... and so is Lil Barry.
-- Posted by Have Wheels Will Travel - ΑΩ on Tue, Nov 17, 2015, at 10:19 AM
"Point being...some would judge an entire population by one bad apple..."
Sort of like making everyone who flies through an airport undergo screening and security checks?
It's not about "judging", it's about precautions. We screen people before they board aircraft because of a few bad apples. Syria has a large number of bad apples, ergo we need to exercise precautions before letting them in.
-- Posted by Shapley Hunter on Tue, Nov 17, 2015, at 10:29 AM
"New immigrants and refugees are under much stricter scrutiny than we give our homegrown.."
As they should be. They are entering the nation from an area belligerent to our nation. Before we admit them, we need to ensure they are not bringing the belligerence with them.
After all, once they become citizens, they too will have access to firearms, as will be their right.
-- Posted by Shapley Hunter on Tue, Nov 17, 2015, at 10:31 AM
Point being...some would judge an entire population by one bad apple..
-- Posted by Theorist on Tue, Nov 17, 2015, at 9:55 AM
Theorist: I agree with you, Pres. Pinky is one bad apple.
-- Posted by Truth Slinger on Tue, Nov 17, 2015, at 10:49 AM
Posted by Theorist on Tue, Nov 17, 2015, at 11:28 AM
Theorist: Do you ever check what you are about to post? Your screenings are as different as apples and oranges.
-- Posted by Truth Slinger on Tue, Nov 17, 2015, at 11:44 AM
Theorist: One concerns our rights the other concerns the possible legal entry of a person into the USA. Your welcome.
-- Posted by Truth Slinger on Tue, Nov 17, 2015, at 11:53 AM
"Odd how one could support screening for some things and not for others, when all have the potential to save lives..."
Nothing odd about it at all. One has to do with preserving the rights of citizens, the other has to do with the proper screening of non-citizens who have the potential for becoming citizens.
If our screening of potential citizens is inadequate, then it will fall upon those armed citizens to deal with the problem our government will have created.
"The heck they are...both are screening for potential murderers...criminals."
You've yet to explain how that works. We have background checks in place. The delay assumes new data will become available in a few days which is not available at now. There is zero evidence to support that claim.
-- Posted by Shapley Hunter on Tue, Nov 17, 2015, at 12:21 PM
I believe we are conßtantly reminded we are not a Christian nation.
Seems "The Left" wants to have it both ways: we are a secular nation except when they want to throw the Bible at us.
Rick' doesn't claim to be a Christian, so demanding that he uphold your interpretation on Christian values amounts to imposing your morality upon them.
-- Posted by Shapley Hunter on Wed, Nov 18, 2015, at 6:24 AM
Theorist
You become a real Bible Thumper when it suits your purpose. I have no idea what religion you are and care less, but you have all the appearances of being a devout Catholic if the Pope happens to agree with you, then turn around and support issues like abortion if that meets your criteria.
It appears it is all about you and your personal agenda, the opinions of others do not deserve consideration.
Our lives and safety matter just as much as this herd of refugees who refuse to stand up and fight for their families and country in their own homeland. You surely can see what is happening in Europe and certainly have had the opportunity to view what the intention of the Muslim community is on a world wide basis. God never intended for us to not think for ourselves.
-- Posted by Have Wheels Will Travel - ΑΩ on Wed, Nov 18, 2015, at 6:37 AM
"....certainly have had the opportunity to view what the intention of the Muslim community is on a world wide basis."
And the Muslim intention is...
Let me guess. They will take over the entire world in a matter of years. Do you really believe that normal people actually think that?
-- Posted by commonsensematters on Wed, Nov 18, 2015, at 7:04 AM
"You're a fool [Duggie], that's for sure. And you prove it every single time you post."
Normally the rantings of the SO 5 can easily and most effectively be ignored. Sometimes they do need to be corrected (as above.)
"They are here and there will be more of them."
Another perfect example of SO 5 paranoia.
Yes, there is clear potential for terrorist attacks within the United States. The highest probability would be for "copy-cat" or "lone wolf" incidents rather than some haphazard, semi-organized attempt by ISIS or Al Qaida. No one believes these possibilities should be ignored, and the most effective means of preventing the possibility is for all involved, the military, the CIA, intelligence agencies, the FBI, all police forces, and all private citizens to be aware of the threat, and sensitive to any signs of the risk. All those activities need to be coordinated and intell communicated.
But in light of all that, there is no need for us to stop being and acting as Americans. Although the threat is real, it is millions of times more likely that someone could die in an auto accident than be killed by a terrorist. It is even much more likely that you would be fatally shot in a firearms accident, than be done in by a terrorist.
The fearful response and distrustful attitudes paraded by the conservatives is exactly what the terrorists intended to create, so the republican candidates for President are playing right into their hands.
Another aspect of the ISIS problem that Americans seem to ignore is that they have killed many more Muslims than non-Muslims. It should be obvious that the "boots on the ground" should be filled by Iraqi, Lebanese, Syranian, Turkish, Jordanian or Kurdish boys, rather than by American boys (as the conservatives/republicans seem to want.) US airpower, along with that of NATO, Russian and other Arab allies should continue to attack ISIS. (Good idea, wonder who's plan that is?)
Remember the attack on the soccer stadium in France which ended up with three suicide bombers blowing themselves and one innocent bystander up. If that's not a JV performance, what is?
-- Posted by commonsensematters on Wed, Nov 18, 2015, at 7:52 AM
If that's not a JV performance, what is? -- Posted by commonsensematters on Wed, Nov 18, 2015, at 7:52 AM
129 people murdered. 100's more wounded. You're a sick man Common. Stay in Scopus...
-- Posted by not_sorry on Wed, Nov 18, 2015, at 8:48 AM
" It also seems you missed the entire point of the scrutiny with which refugees are approached."
"The heck they are...both are screening for potential murderers...criminals."
Then it is obvious you missed the point of my post: How do we screen for "potential" murderers...criminals? We have no means of determining potential, only for determining prior crimes.
The claim is that we are being paranoid by calling for a halt to the influx of refugees. If so, we are in good company, because a vast array of nations are now halting them. France sealed their borders after the attacks in Paris. Hungary put up a fence. This is not paranoia, it is common sense.
When Hadrian put an end to Rome's expansions, he had a wall erected across the northern limit of Roman Britannia. He erected other walls elsewhere, too, but the Briton's wall is the most famous. The intent was not so much to seal the border as it was to control and record who came through it. He did not end trade, or immigration, from Northern Britain, but he had a control upon it.
Regarding background checks of Syrian, we have to ask: how good is the background information we have on the refugees? I am inclined to believe that, in war-torn Syria, records of offenses are likely scant. While the number of "bad apples" sneaking in amongst the horde of refugees are probably small, that they are there, and that the data against which they are screened is limited, it is fair to question the thoroughness of the screening process.
You have shown yourself willing to trust your government more than you trust her citizens. I base this statement on the fact you are willing to allow your government to arm itself to the fullest degree while seeking to limit access to the same by the people who select the people of which our government is comprised. I find that troubling.
So, now, you are willing to put your faith in the government's ability to screen an influx of 65,000 refugees. Many governors, who will be responsible for dealing with them should they not be trustworthy, are saying "whoa", and you question them.
It is entirely possible to feed and care for the poor of Syria by feeding and caring for them over there. To be sure, the best thing we can do for them is to help defeat the evil which is driving them from their homes.
-- Posted by Shapley Hunter on Wed, Nov 18, 2015, at 8:54 AM
Posted by commonsensematters on Wed, Nov 18, 2015, at 7:52 AM
Common: Doubt that the families of the 130 dead in Paris will agree that they are a JV team. Even the spineless French are now declaring war on ISIS....when will Pres. Pinky show the world leadership and not be a bystander.
For the gun control folks, if the Syrians had the right to bear arms they could have taken care of their leader and his corrupt government and we wouldn't be in the problems that we are today.
-- Posted by Truth Slinger on Wed, Nov 18, 2015, at 8:56 AM
" It should be obvious that the "boots on the ground" should be filled by Iraqi, Lebanese, Syranian, Turkish, Jordanian or Kurdish boys, rather than by American boys (as the conservatives/republicans seem to want.)"
A curious claim. Mr. Bush was chided for "outsourcing" our responsibilities in Afghanistan for doing just the same thing.
We conservatives/Republicans have supported that concept for years - with the Vietnamization plan of Mr. Nixon, through the Afghanistan conflict in the seventies (which, unfortunately, led to the rise of Osama bin Laden), through the current conflicts.
One of the problems with that is the fickle nature of the people, who want them to fight their own battles, and are willing to support them for a while, but then tire of it. The Vietnamization plan was working, but the Liberals/Democrats pulled our ability to provide materiel support to them, and they collapsed. To be sure, America has a record of propping up and then abandoning countrymen who do that sort of thing, from the Bay of Pigs to the Abandonment of the Kurds in Iraq, we have established a well-deserved mistrust of those who we claim to support.
The current battle in Syria is an example. We arm one side and then another. We wanted to oust Assad, but are now being urged to arm and support him. We have no consistent policy there, and so we are mistrusted by those who would be our allies.
-- Posted by Shapley Hunter on Wed, Nov 18, 2015, at 9:02 AM
How do we screen for "potential" murderers...criminals? How do we screen for "potential" murderers...criminals? -- Posted by Shapley Hunter on Wed, Nov 18, 2015, at 8:54 AM
Neighbors in the apartment complex where two of the terrorist lived said they saw no sign of any hate or any inclination that they would kill anyone.
Common is clueless.
-- Posted by not_sorry on Wed, Nov 18, 2015, at 9:06 AM
""They are here and there will be more of them." Another perfect example of SO 5 paranoia." -- Posted by commonsensematters on Wed, Nov 18, 2015, at 7:52 AM
In the news today: "Nearly SEVENTY are arrested in America over ISIS plots - and they include refugees who had been given safe haven but 'turned to terror'".
They are here Common. Are you that low-info? I think we know the answer to that. Even your democrat friends are ripping on Obama and Kerry for lack of a plan or leadership. Normally the rantings of [Common] can easily and most effectively be ignored.
So do you still deny they are here? We know, they're not in Scopus or Daisy. But they ARE here. See how easy it is to bust your lies?
-- Posted by not_sorry on Wed, Nov 18, 2015, at 9:08 AM
Stay in Scopus...
Common: Is the Little Opry still going on there?
-- Posted by Truth Slinger on Wed, Nov 18, 2015, at 9:08 AM
Neighbors in the apartment complex where two of the terrorist lived said they saw no sign of any hate or any inclination that they would kill anyone.-- Posted by Dug on Wed, Nov 18, 2015, at 9:06 AM
Common & Theorist: That is why they are called "sleeper cells", they blend in with the neighborhood waiting for instructions to come out and kill. If the Syrian data base is not updated or contains false info the so call refugees can enter under the radar. We all have to have our eyes wide open for any clues to domestic or foreign folks who want to do harm to the USA citizens.
-- Posted by Truth Slinger on Wed, Nov 18, 2015, at 9:18 AM
BushII was bad , really , really bad . This dude makes BushII look like a genius.-- Posted by Rick' on Wed, Nov 18, 2015, at 9:15 AM
Rick: And Jimmy Carter a conquering hero.
-- Posted by Truth Slinger on Wed, Nov 18, 2015, at 9:21 AM
Posted by Rick' on Wed, Nov 18, 2015, at 3:01 AM
Unfortunately we know all to well that you don't need an I.D. or background checks to get weapons in this country. Regardless if you are born here or are a refugee, etc.. So when they get here how are you going to stop them from getting them? You can't watch everyone of them 24/7.
Theorist no law or screening is going to stop them from obtaining weapons if they want them.
-- Posted by Iamhere on Wed, Nov 18, 2015, at 9:39 AM
"Sure doesn't sound like a JV team to me:"
Right, 3 suicide bombers go to a soccer match end up killing themselves and 1 innocent bystander. And that's supposed to be some kind of masterful attack.
Of course the killings of 129 people is a horrific and tragic event, but it was not carried out by some invincible super beings. Don't be as stupid as Duggie. It was done by murdering, fanatical criminals, and there is no reason for anyone to give them credit for being brilliant.
"Nearly SEVENTY are arrested in America over ISIS plots - ...'
Just be as terrified as you need to. I understand the risk and the threat, and comprehend what's been done to counter it.
...SEVENTY arrested... your words...
That means they were unsuccessful, and even you should be able to figure that out. Then again, maybe not, based on you past record of idiocy.
-- Posted by commonsensematters on Wed, Nov 18, 2015, at 11:22 AM
I have been searching for a list of all those conservatives wanting to send American troops to Syria and such. A few armchair retired generals have said common's non feared terrorists could be destroyed with a complete military action of a stated goal.
Overall the only one I know that decided it good to send Americans to the fight is the president.
He calls them trainers and advisors. His goal and lack of policy seems but only to divide Americans.
-- Posted by Old John on Wed, Nov 18, 2015, at 11:43 AM
Theorist, I would trust the wisdom of back world USA [as your superior view of yourself calls it],over the DC know it alls any day.
-- Posted by Old John on Wed, Nov 18, 2015, at 11:47 AM
Right, 3 suicide bombers go to a soccer match end up killing themselves and 1 innocent bystander.-- Posted by commonsensematters on Wed, Nov 18, 2015, at 11:22 AM
How about killing 129? Did you miss that on the White House web site?
So if a few terrorists can kill 129, then 70 ISIS in America are "no big deal"? Or are you just talking about Bollinger County again?
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That means they were unsuccessful, and even you should be able to figure that out. -- Posted by commonsensematters on Wed, Nov 18, 2015, at 11:22 AM
Mohammad Youssef Abdulazeez - 4 killed in Chattanooga, TN
Nidal Hassan - 13 Americans killed, over 30 wounded
That's some real "unsuccessful" there Common. You've got your head so far up Obama's back side you can't see the murder of Americans by Muslim terrorist.
You denied that ISIS is here - 70 were arrested. You're clueless.
-- Posted by not_sorry on Wed, Nov 18, 2015, at 12:18 PM
And yet our homegrown continue...who is going to stop them? This is where your concern and paranoia should focus...-- Posted by Theorist on Wed, Nov 18, 2015, at 11:40 AM
Your ignorance of the facts is the main problem you have. Not all of these killings were "home grown" - sorry to burst your bubble.
If you don't like Southern Illinois or SE Missouri why don't you pack up and move to Detroit? There are plenty of Muslims you could personally welcome and house... you could still post on the SE Missourian where so many you despise are located.
There's nothing stopping you from moving - have at it.
-- Posted by not_sorry on Wed, Nov 18, 2015, at 12:21 PM
Democrats disagree with Obama (and hence Common/Theorist) on his handling of the ISIS threat:
"I don't want him shooting from the hip and making empty threats, but I think he could have done a better job in articulating the anger that many people feel toward what happened in not only Paris but Beirut as well," said Democratic strategist Jim Manley, a former adviser to Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.).
Obama's tone "was all wrong" in addressing the Paris attacks and "at times he was patronizing, at other times he seemed annoyed and almost dismissive."
After Obama said ISIS is contained this was said: "I read the intelligence faithfully. ISIL is not contained, ISIL is expanding," Sen. Dianne Feinstein (Calif.), the top Democrat on the Senate Intelligence Committee, told MSNBC's Andrea Mitchell on Monday.
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Need more quotes from democrats about the ineptness and weakness of the man you two worship?
-- Posted by not_sorry on Wed, Nov 18, 2015, at 12:28 PM
"There are no stupid posters."
OK, have it your way, but there are posters like Duggie that say stupid things.
"...political bias is not swaying your opinion?"
No it is not. It always seems to be the conservatives who want to give ISIS credit for being such a world power, with unlimited strength, ready to conquer the entire globe.
Has it ever crossed anyone's mind that ISIS is essentially sitting right to Israel, the prime Muslim enemy in the Middle East. Yet they don't threaten Israel, they don't attack Israel. Could it be that ISIS is painfully aware of the fact that with our help, Israel, if attacked, would wipe their little JV butts off the face of the earth
-- Posted by commonsensematters on Wed, Nov 18, 2015, at 1:01 PM
"...determined to be basically harmless by now , no?"
No. I have never claimed that they were "harmless." I have consistently said that militarily ISIS is a JV power, and that the US, Israel, NATO or even Russia could destroy them if pushed to a land war in Syria or Iraq. The idea that they are criminal, fundamentalist fanatics that have and can murder people is not disputed.
They are by no means harmless, but as mentioned above, they have killed innumerably more followers of Islam than non-Muslims. Those are the ones that should be fighting them on the ground.
-- Posted by commonsensematters on Wed, Nov 18, 2015, at 1:09 PM
Posted by commonsensematters on Wed, Nov 18, 2015, at 1:01 PM
Common: Who on these threads ever said that ISIS is a world power with unlimited strength, ready to conquer the entire globe? They are a "Varsity" Islamic fanatic movement that is nothing but a terrorist organization bent on using the Koran as an excuse to kill. I know that you feel safe hiding out there in the woods in Bollinger county but what about those who could be killed in NYC or Washington by a group of suicide bombers. True we can't live in fear of ISIS but we have to at least acknowledge their existence as radicals and the need to destroy them in their homeland and not here in the USA.
-- Posted by Truth Slinger on Wed, Nov 18, 2015, at 1:24 PM
It always seems to be the conservatives who want to give ISIS credit for being such a world power, with unlimited strength, ready to conquer the entire globe.-- Posted by commonsensematters on Wed, Nov 18, 2015, at 1:01 PM
A point completely fabricated by you. Total BS. No one has said that.
What is being posted relates to terrorist attacks - not a world power, unlimited strength, blah blah blah.
Is this how you "win" an argument? 3 lies in one statement? Can't you defend your president and ideology without lying? Seems to be a pattern with you.
-- Posted by not_sorry on Wed, Nov 18, 2015, at 2:12 PM
"Shapley...you have a skewed view of History."
How so? Are you saying the Democrats did not prohibit materiel support to the South Vietnamese after we agreed to provide it?
Are you saying Mr. Kennedy did not cancel further air strikes in Cuba after the initial ones, in order to maintain the illusion of "no direct U.S. involvement"?
Are you saying we didn't arm and support Afghanistan's' Mujahideen, which funding was cut immediately after the Soviet's announced their withdrawal?
Are you saying President Bush I did not encourage the Kurds to try to overthrown Saddam Hussein, and then denied them support when they did so?
Or are you saying, as Commonsensematters claims, that Conservatives/Republicans had no role in those efforts to allow the locals to fight their own battles, with U.S. support?
-- Posted by Shapley Hunter on Wed, Nov 18, 2015, at 2:24 PM
"They are by no means harmless, but as mentioned above, they have killed innumerably more followers of Islam than non-Muslims."
So, you think we should only be fighting to save the lives of non-Muslims? Your argument here mystifies me.
-- Posted by Shapley Hunter on Wed, Nov 18, 2015, at 2:26 PM
"It is not that I trust my government overly much, it is that I don't trust you. You are a regular Joe, a person from Southwest Illinois or Southeast Missouri who is very much opinioned like others on here...this is where my mistrust lies...in the closed minds of back-world USA..."
And now it comes out. You are afraid of people who hold opinions and express them. That would make it a sort of self-loathing, methinks, given that you are a frequent poster here on the opinion page, which would make you very much opinioned like the others on here.
Or is it that you only distrust those who hold and express opinions with which you disagree? Methinks that would make yours a closed mind, would it not?
-- Posted by Shapley Hunter on Wed, Nov 18, 2015, at 2:33 PM
Common touches on a point concerning the reason isis doesn't take on Israel. I we had a strong leader they have the same worries about attacking our long time European allies.
-- Posted by Old John on Wed, Nov 18, 2015, at 2:42 PM
"So, you think we should only be fighting to save the lives of non-Muslims? Your argument here mystifies me."
It shouldn't. The argument is that the Muslim nations and citizens are most at risk, therefore they should be the primary forces combating ISIS.
-- Posted by commonsensematters on Wed, Nov 18, 2015, at 2:50 PM
"It shouldn't. The argument is that the Muslim nations and citizens are most at risk, therefore they should be the primary forces combating ISIS."
Indeed, they should be. Presumably, they are. But, there's that word "primary". That is different than their being the "only" forces combating ISIS.
Germany was primarily killing Europeans. Japan was primarily killing Asians. North Korea was primarily killing South Koreans. The Viet Cong were primarily killing South Koreans, after they ran out of Frenchmen.
So, do we let them establish their desired Caliphate, and only engage them when they sail their dhows up the Mississippi? Or do we assist those who recognize them for the evil they are stop them over there before they come over here? Do we have to wait for a Paris-style attack in Washington before we commit? Or is the Paris-style attack too small to justify it? Do we need a 9-11-01 style attack before we commit? How many casualties is the right number, and what ethnicity/nationality/creed to they have profess before we have had enough?
-- Posted by Shapley Hunter on Wed, Nov 18, 2015, at 2:56 PM
The argument is that the Muslim nations and citizens are most at risk, therefore they should be the primary forces combating ISIS. -- Posted by commonsensematters on Wed, Nov 18, 2015, at 2:50 PM
Now there's a failed set of logic. If we let Muslim nations combat ISIS (terrorism) then all will be fine. What a naive statement. Ever heard of these attacks by Muslims abroad and within the US? Guess not - none of them occurred in Bollinger County.
1983 - April 18 - The Bombing at United States Embassy in Beirut. 63 people, including 17 Americans, are killed.
1984 - Twenty-two people were killed (two of them American) and seventy were wounded when a van loaded with four hundred pounds of explosives exploded in front of the U.S. Embassy annex in Awkar, Lebanon. Islamic Jihad (code name of Hezbollah) claimed responsibility for the bombing in a call to the media.
1985 - June 14 - TWA Flight 847 hijacked, U.S. Navy diver is killed by Hezbollah.
1985 - August 9 - The car bomb planted at Rhein-Main Air Base exploded, killing two and wounding eleven.
1985 - October 7 - Achille Lauro hijacking, wheel-chair bound American killed by Palestinian militants.
1985 - November 25 - A car bomb exploded outside of the Post Exchange complex in Frankfurt, Germany, wounding 34[1]
1986 - April 2 - Four Americans were killed and five Americans were injured when a bomb exploded aboard TWA Flight 840 as it traveled from Rome to Athens. The aircraft was able to land safely at Athens International Airport.
1986 - April 6 - A Berlin discotheque bombing killed a Turkish woman and 2 US servicemen and injured 230 people, including more than 50 American servicemen.
1988 - December 21 - Pan Am Flight 103, outbound from London for New York with 259 people aboard, was destroyed by a bomb on December 21, 1988 while over Lockerbie, Scotland. All aboard the aircraft were killed as were eleven persons on the ground.
1988 - 1990 - Marine Col. Rich Higgins kidnapped, tortured and murdered by Hezbollah terrorists.
1993 - January 25 - Attack at CIA Headquarters in McLean, Virginia: 2 killed, 3 injured. Muslim terrorists.
1993 - February 26 - World Trade Center bombing, 6 killed, 1,042 injured. Muslim terrorists.
1995 - March 8 - Killing of two US Diplomats in Pakistan.
1996 - June 25 - Khobar Towers bombing: 19 American servicemen killed.
1998 - August 7 - US embassy bombings: U.S. Kenya Embassy blown up, 214 killed (including 12 Americans); U.S. Tanzania Embassy blown up, 11 killed.
2000 - USS Cole attacked, 17 U.S. Navy sailors killed, 39 sailors injured.
2001 - September 11, 2001 attacks, 2,997 killed by Islamic fundamentalists
2002 - Reporter Daniel Pearl, kidnapped and beheaded in Karachi
2002-2006 - Karachi consulate attacks: three separate attacks killed 18 people (including an American diplomat) and injured 87.
2002 - Two Marines shot, one killed in Kuwait.
2003 - Riyadh Compound Bombings kill 35, including 9 Americans.
2003 - Three American diplomats are killed by a roadside bomb targeting their convoy in Gaza. Palestine Resistance Committees, an umbrella organization has taken responsibility for the attack."[2]
2003--present - Damascus terrorist attacks: American interests in Syria targeted by Islamists.
2004 - Civilians Nick Berg, Jack Hensley, and Eugene Armstrong kidnapped and beheaded in Iraq.
2004 - Paul Marshall Johnson, Jr, civilian working in Saudi Arabia, kidnapped and beheaded; five other Americans die in attacks in Saudi Arabia in 2004.
2008 - John Granville, US diplomat, assassinated in Khartoum, Sudan
2009 - Thirteen people, mostly U.S. military personnel, were killed and more than 30 others wounded at Fort Hood, Texas, in a shooting rampage by disgruntled Army psychiatrist Nidal Malik Hasan, who during his trial claimed to be waging an Islamic jihad against the United States.
2012 -- US Embassy in Libya was attacked. The ambassador and three other Americans were killed.
2013 -- 2013 Boston Marathon bombings, 3 killed, 183 injured. April 15.
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There are more.
-- Posted by not_sorry on Wed, Nov 18, 2015, at 3:17 PM
I distrust people who insist they know what everyone else is thinking, or what everyone else believes... -- Posted by Theorist on Wed, Nov 18, 2015, at 3:16 PM
This can't be true. How do you sleep at night? You insist you know what everyone else is thinking and what they believe. You even insist you know where people live!
Hypocrisy knows no bounds...
-- Posted by not_sorry on Wed, Nov 18, 2015, at 3:19 PM
"I am not afraid of you, Shapley."
You say you distrust us, to the point of wanting us disarmed. That sounds an awful lot like fear.
-- Posted by Shapley Hunter on Wed, Nov 18, 2015, at 3:24 PM
"...in the closed minds of back-world USA..."
I'm not sure where back-world USA is located, so I have no idea to whom you are referring.
-- Posted by Shapley Hunter on Wed, Nov 18, 2015, at 3:25 PM
"It isn't all about you!"
I didn't say it was. In fact, I rather think I pointed out that is all about you.
I don't pretend to know what people are thinking. However, when you opine on an opinion page that you mistrust people because they are "opinioned", I rather think it is fair to point out that reeks of self-loathing.
As for being "about me", I am well aware that it is not all about me. However, when you address me directly, quote something posted by me, or address something I posted with a reference to me, such as: "it is that I don't trust you", It's fair to assume that particular post is about me.
-- Posted by Shapley Hunter on Wed, Nov 18, 2015, at 3:37 PM
Nothing to see hear for the Obama worshippers. Just another story in the news today:
"Syrians with stolen passports caught trying to enter US, police say"
"Police in Honduras caught five Syrians who were trying to make their way to the United States with stolen and doctored passports, a police spokesman in Tegucigalpa told Reuters Wednesday."
-- Posted by not_sorry on Wed, Nov 18, 2015, at 3:40 PM
And the Muslim intention is...
Let me guess. They will take over the entire world in a matter of years. Do you really believe that normal people actually think that?
-- Posted by commonsensematters on Wed, Nov 18, 2015, at 7:04 AM
Common
If you do no know there is no help for you!
The radical branch of the Muslim religion has been very vocal regarding their intention.... are you that far back in the woods that are not aware.
Will they succeed at their stated purpose.... not if we stop them, but if the world continues with their political correctness towards the clear and present danger, yes they will succeed. It is people like you and Theorist, the COA group who are into protecting Obama no matter what he does or says. It is obvious some posters of the COA have gone silent it is so embarassing trying to protect him. Thought you were an American, guess not.
I am pretty sure you saw the UTube Video Rocknroll posted..... the world is laughing at Obama and at us by association. What an embarrassment.
-- Posted by Have Wheels Will Travel - ΑΩ on Wed, Nov 18, 2015, at 5:26 PM
Seems Obama is using the argument that there is no religious test to immigration to the U.S..
But I think our laws regarding necessity to flee ones country and gain asylum here is based on political and religious persecution. Therefore a religious test is required if those fleeing are in danger of their lives not due to political purge.
He makes it sound cruel not to welcome widows and orphans. How many of those widows and teenage orphans are fleeing because their jihadist men folk were lost in an airstrike and secretly seek revenge on a compassionate America?
-- Posted by Old John on Wed, Nov 18, 2015, at 6:49 PM
Americans were outraged when some never heard of female band bashed America overseas. Obama all but calls some governors scum overseas for vowing not to go along with his forcing states to accept Muslim immigrants.
Go figure.
-- Posted by Old John on Wed, Nov 18, 2015, at 6:54 PM
Poor Common - he claims that ISIS isn't here... that Syrians can't sneak in... in the news today:
8 SYRIANS CAUGHT AT TEXAS BORDER IN LAREDO
"Two federal agents operating under the umbrella of U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) are claiming that eight Syrian illegal aliens attempted to enter Texas from Mexico in the Laredo Sector.
The sources claimed that eight Syrians were apprehended on Monday, November 16, 2015. According to the sources, the Syrians were in two separate "family units" and were apprehended at the Juarez Lincoln Bridge in Laredo, Texas, also known officially as Port of Entry 1."
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Yes we know Common. Laredo ain't in Bollinger County. And I'm sure you'll claim that Obama is awesome and the fact that these were caught means there aren't any in the country. Right.
Curious thing - why would Syrians come all the way across the ocean (which Common claims can't happen), sneak into Mexico and then try and cross the border into the US when they could have simply walked or took a little boat trip to Turkey?
-- Posted by not_sorry on Wed, Nov 18, 2015, at 9:14 PM
IMO, the PC Liberals on these threads are in hiding and embarrassed for their support of Pres. Pinky....now the whole world knows like I have since the Red Line in Syria crawdading by our President as Pres. Pinky.
-- Posted by Truth Slinger on Wed, Nov 18, 2015, at 9:21 PM
-- Posted by semo471 on Wed, Nov 18, 2015, at 9:21 PM
Crawdading and eating crow. :-)
-- Posted by not_sorry on Wed, Nov 18, 2015, at 9:24 PM
"Will they succeed at their stated purpose.... not if we stop them, but if the world continues with their political correctness towards the clear and present danger, yes they will succeed."
Taking a stab at it, you seem to believe they (Muslims?) are going to succeed at this world conquest. If you really think the world will be 100% Islamic in two years, ten years or a hundred years, you're a bigger fool than you have shown yourself to be in the past.
And as some kind of supposed "proof" you trot out a phony U-Tube video from the internet. I suspect you are convinced that "they're not allowed to show it on the internet, unless it's true." Maybe you could confess to both gullibility and paranoia.
-- Posted by commonsensematters on Thu, Nov 19, 2015, at 7:57 AM
Posted by commonsensematters on Thu, Nov 19, 2015, at 7:57 AM
Common: One only has to recall the Crusades as to who the final victor was and it wasn't the Christians.
-- Posted by Truth Slinger on Thu, Nov 19, 2015, at 8:57 AM
The new age "We are open and inclusive" movement fostered by the worldwide epidemic of progressive liberalism is IMO bearing fruit. The fruit of evil it is, is that which was once held in check by evil of a different kind. Brutal dictators of regimes held at bay during cold war tensions kept the radical Muslims in check.
If anyone passed over the video posted by Legalize Liberty, I suggest you take time to watch.
"Watch this video before youtube takes it down again. Obama wants to bring this trash over here. Europe will be unrecognizable real soon. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44vzMNG2...
-- Posted by Legalize Liberty on Sat, Nov 14, 2015, at 1:27 AM "
The people that should be [through their core beliefs] scorning swine are lower than swine.
They tout their plans to out populate the Christian countries by forcibly integrating and imposing their will on a soon to be minority population.
Look around, how many communities in America have growing Muslim populations of peaceful immigrants patiently waiting to increase their participation as elected office holders in our cities and states?
Meanwhile we in America are worried about Mexicans, mostly of Christian faith, being here illegally. The liberals are so worried we will offend someone's rights that they allow and sanction the relatively small portion of Mexican criminals to the point they have free round trip tickets to come and go even after they have repeatedly proved to be criminals.
The rampant liberal political correctness and open minded folly that has old ladies at airports searched while one wearing a burka goes through because some government employee considerers his union paycheck at risk for profiling is a product of the new PC.
Notice that even when reporting on a video of a beheading the media masters refer to the lowlife doing the deed as the "alleged" attacker.
England, France, Germany and so many others have brought these woes upon themselves by being open and inclusive, being the nice guys bent on being charitable to humanity. We can see that easily from here but are blind to the same in America.
Now would be the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country. Get rid of the long time bureaucrats, career politicians of wealth of both parties and elect people that will stand up to the threats of the liberal progressive disease that fails to make the U.S.A a country of global leadership through strength of military and economic power.
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