Posted by Hello Delta on Tue, Nov 10, 2020, at 12:17 AM:
Here is the fact. The election is over. Trump has lost. It is time for Trump to concede. All this is going to do is undermind our political system.
These court cases are junk. Based on no evidence. There is no massive voter fraud. Let the country move on Mr. Trump.
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"All this is going to do is undermind our political system."
Undermine the system you say.... interesting.
Die you feel the same way when Al Gore and Hillary Clinton were challenging the outcome, or was that Ok because they were Democrats and Trump is a Republican.
Your argument carries no validity Bright BOY!
-- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Tue, Nov 10, 2020, at 12:47 AM
Rick Broom Hilda did protest the vote and went so far as to try and sway the electoral college vote Trump won as I remember it.
The Democrats had a very weak candidate in her and even they couldn't vote for her in lots of cases. This candidate they had is going brain dead and they are going to make him President or die trying.
-- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Tue, Nov 10, 2020, at 9:40 AM
Rick are you referring to Black Lives Matter, Anti Fa or??
-- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Tue, Nov 10, 2020, at 10:20 AM
"Those who vote decide nothing. Those who count the vote decide everything."
Joseph Stalin
Is this where Democrats get the philosophy that cheating is ok.
-- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Tue, Nov 10, 2020, at 10:35 AM
Wasn't it Bill Clinton who was supposed to destroy America way back in 1994? Or wasn't it Barack Obama how was supposed to do it back in 2008? Joe Biden is not going to destroy America. Get over it.
-- Posted by Hello Delta on Tue, Nov 10, 2020, at 12:58 PM
Joe Biden is not going to destroy America. Get over it.
-- Posted by Brighter Days on Tue, Nov 10, 2020, at 12:58 PM
That could be for one of two reasons. Trump prevails in a recount #1 or Biden is sworn in and they Pelosi and company take him out for inability to handle the job and they instal Crazy Kamila as President. Scenario #2
You should be able to figure that out for yourself Bight BOY. You're welcome!
-- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Tue, Nov 10, 2020, at 1:32 PM
Have_Wheels_Will_Travel
Kamila Harris, but wasn't Barack Obama supposed to finish us off during his 8 years. Here is what is going to happen, Biden or Harris will be around for the next 4 years. Then 2024 will come around and the will be another Election. Just like always and this election will not matter. So move on.
-- Posted by Hello Delta on Tue, Nov 10, 2020, at 1:53 PM
Just like always and this election will not matter. So move on.
-- Posted by Brighter Days on Tue, Nov 10, 2020, at 1:53 PM
Oh it matters all right Bright Boy. People like yourself are hoping for the free stuff that people like myself pay taxes to fund, since nothing is free.
So far as move on, I will do that when and if I chose. I don't take orders from kids and those not my superiors.
-- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Tue, Nov 10, 2020, at 2:41 PM
Have_Wheels_Will_Travel
But it is crazy to believe this will be the last Presidental Election. Why do you believe there will not be a 2024 Election?
-- Posted by Hello Delta on Tue, Nov 10, 2020, at 3:05 PM
Have_Wheels_Will_Travel
Because you are saying that there will not be another Election in 2024.
-- Posted by Hello Delta on Tue, Nov 10, 2020, at 3:07 PM
But it is crazy to believe this will be the last Presidental Election. Why do you believe there will not be a 2024 Election?
-- Posted by Brighter Days on Tue, Nov 10, 2020, at 3:05 PM
Because you are saying that there will not be another Election in 2024.
-- Posted by Brighter Days on Tue, Nov 10, 2020, at 3:07 PM
Grow up and start acting like an adult Junior. I never said or implied there would not be another election in 2024. But elections do not matter if they are stolen, and that is what happens with illegal procedures if they are not taken seriously and the guilty punished.
Only if we allow the far left to turn this into a socialist country do we have to worry about elections. Socializm is the forerunner of Communism and Totalitarian rule.
You mentioned Clinton and Obama. Two nobodies from nowhere who became millionaires by being President. Something rotten here.
And since you mention Obama, he gave us the division we have in this Country. Worst President to ever serve.
I cannot understand what bothers the Democrats so bad about Trump making a challenge. Prior to this election we have had two contested elections rather put the country through turmoil. But that is ok it was the Democrats doing the whining. But let a Republican challenge the results and it js just terrible. Where is your sense of fairness?
-- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Tue, Nov 10, 2020, at 4:12 PM
Have_Wheels_Will_Travel
The election was not stolen. That is a baseless Conspiracy Theory. Show me proof.
-- Posted by Hello Delta on Tue, Nov 10, 2020, at 6:00 PM
I know how you know that the election was stolen. Trump told you so. So if Trump tells you there is voter fraud, there was voter fraud. Evidence, who needs evidence. Let's go on the blind faith based on the word of the all mighty Trump.
-- Posted by Hello Delta on Tue, Nov 10, 2020, at 6:09 PM
And yeah Obama would be the "worst" President to someone who still hates the fact that Jim Crow ended.
-- Posted by Hello Delta on Tue, Nov 10, 2020, at 6:15 PM
-- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Tue, Nov 10, 2020, at 6:37 PM
And yeah Obama would be the "worst" President to someone who still hates the fact that Jim Crow ended.
-- Posted by Brighter Days on Tue, Nov 10, 2020, at 6:15 PM
Nothing of the kind Bright Boy, Obama was bought and paid for by George Soros and used. Jim Crow has nothing to do with anthing.
You don't know squat about what you speak of.
This will be over when the votes are correctly tallied. The integrity of our country depends on it.
Gore got his day to challenge, Hillary got hers, and Trump is owed the opportunity to have his case heard.
If Trump is eventually upheld and called the winner you are really going to look uninforned with your mouth.
My feeling..... win, lose or draw, all of us need to be sure our vote was counted and cannot be nullified by some thieving poll worker. I remember the Gore days of hanging chads and dimpled chads ect. Of course Mommy was still changing your diapers that long ago would be my guess.
-- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Tue, Nov 10, 2020, at 6:55 PM
Have_Wheels_Will_Travel
Trump's whole case is a complete work of fiction. The only voter fraud is in Trump's delusional mind. If Mike Pence had any integrity, he would just concede and resign to force Trump to concede. Trump is now firing people I'm his staff who are looking for new jobs.
-- Posted by Hello Delta on Tue, Nov 10, 2020, at 10:30 PM
Trump's whole case is a complete work of fiction. The only voter fraud is in Trump's delusional mind. If Mike Pence had any integrity, he would just concede and resign to force Trump to concede. Trump is now firing people I'm his staff who are looking for new jobs.
-- Posted by Brighter Days on Tue, Nov 10, 2020, at 10:30 PM
Bright BOY, you shine like a box of rocks.
-- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Tue, Nov 10, 2020, at 10:48 PM
Have_Wheels_Will_Travel
Your Generation is not the Greatest Generation. More like the Worthless Generation.
-- Posted by Hello Delta on Tue, Nov 10, 2020, at 11:55 PM
Have_Wheels_Will_Travel
Your Generation is not the Greatest Generation. More like the Worthless Generation.
-- Posted by Brighter Days on Tue, Nov 10, 2020, at 11:55 PM
Bright Boy, what have you done so far except live off those of us who have to prove nothing to kids like you?
-- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Wed, Nov 11, 2020, at 9:31 AM
I have worked hard for everything I have. I earned it on my own. So you have no right to say that to me.
-- Posted by Hello Delta on Wed, Nov 11, 2020, at 9:51 AM
I have worked hard for everything I have. I earned it on my own. So you have no right to say that to me.
-- Posted by Brighter Days on Wed, Nov 11, 2020, at 9:51 AM
Bright Boy, after your insults. I have every right to respond to you as I see fit. Now go whine to your Mommy.
-- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Wed, Nov 11, 2020, at 9:55 AM
-- Posted by Brighter Days on Wed, Nov 11, 2020, at 9:58 AM
Perhaps physically.
-- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Wed, Nov 11, 2020, at 10:01 AM
"And Defense spending , more then the next 26 combined , 24 of which are Allies ."
Rick that was one of the things Trump was trying to correct and succeeding, but people criticized him for that as well.
This country started on it's path to hell years ago, when we tried creeping socialism by putting every deadbeat we could round up on welfare. Then when hardworking, tax paying people started complaining we put a prettier name on it and called it entitlements.
People can preach what they want but any time I hear or see people lauding leftist politicians and socialistic politics, I mentally put them in the deadbeat class looking for freebies that I have to help pay for.
I have always tried to split my vote based on the people running. I think those days are about over as well.
-- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Wed, Nov 11, 2020, at 11:42 AM
When grading politicians I grade them by what they do that affects me as an American. My last report on one of my retirement accounts that I started many years ago, my increase in value year to date as of September 30th, 2020 was 20.25%. And I have been notified that I do not have to take an RMD this year because of COVID. I personally like the financial atmosphere President Trump has helped to create. My hope is that he prevails in his asking for recounts. I am very concerned what happens in the financial world if BDB prevails. That would be Brain Dead Biden. Or worse Kamala Harris the Far Left Socialist.
-- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Wed, Nov 11, 2020, at 1:42 PM
Mr. VanGennip,
"...one of the things Trump was trying to correct and succeeding..."
Not so. The 2016 DOD Budget was about $620 billion. Now it's over $720 billion. How's that succeeding?
-- Posted by Rick Lettau on Wed, Nov 11, 2020, at 3:18 PM
-- Posted by Rick Lettau on Wed, Nov 11, 2020, at 3:18 PM
Change the subject again Lettau. I was talking most recently about the economy not the DOD Budget. You have a temperature or something?
And when speaking to Rick S. we were discussing our allies not paying their fair share.
But yes he did have to rebuild the DOD Budget after Obama, we all knew Obama mucked that up. Obama hated the military. And while we are all over the place on issues. Obama bears the responsibility of the racial split and the political division in this country. He was the biggest divider of people of any President in my lifetime. And his partner in that administration, Biden, wants everyone to unite at his direction. HA! I wouldn't count on that happening overnight.
-- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Wed, Nov 11, 2020, at 5:09 PM
Hmm, there is an echo over here this morning.
-- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Thu, Nov 12, 2020, at 8:36 AM
BREAKING EXCLUSIVE: Open Records Request Finds NO INVOICES OR WORK ORDERS on Reported Election Day Water Main Break in Atlanta --
Check it out, lies and cheating are the Democrats strong point.
-- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Thu, Nov 12, 2020, at 12:14 PM
"The decision came after an immense effort by President Donald Trump and his supporters to cast doubt on Georgia’s election results, despite no evidence of any wrongdoing or irregularities."
-- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Thu, Nov 12, 2020, at 12:54 PM
Rick, why was there any delay if there was no burst pipe? And why claim something that never happened?
-- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Thu, Nov 12, 2020, at 1:24 PM
-- Posted by Diseased Turtle* on Thu, Nov 12, 2020, at 12:58 PM
Rick, if that is the case, it is the lawyers who are compromising their integrity. A lawyer cannot ethically and probably legally argue both sides of the case or even represent someone filing suit against a client they are doing business with.
-- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Thu, Nov 12, 2020, at 1:46 PM
Even Carl Rove is telling the President to give it up, you can't win
While President Trump seems to be aware of this, it appears that he still wants to "milk" his base for more money.
Something a loser might do.
-- Posted by Rick Lettau on Thu, Nov 12, 2020, at 4:17 PM
How so?
I didn't lose a thing.
Seems it you and your idol failed totally.
-- Posted by Rick Lettau on Thu, Nov 12, 2020, at 5:35 PM
How so?
I didn't lose a thing.
Seems it you and your idol failed totally.
-- Posted by Rick Lettau on Thu, Nov 12, 2020, at 5:35 PM
Sure you did, you lost Al Gore and you lost Hillary Clinton both under similar circumstances. The latter which you started whining about within 48 hours of it happening and you haven't quit since....
So live with it.
-- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Thu, Nov 12, 2020, at 5:43 PM
Now if Trump doesn't make it, we have a slow thinker for President, with a Communistic thinker waiting in the wings, just waiting for him to stumble. I don’t lose, America does.
-- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Thu, Nov 12, 2020, at 5:54 PM
What happened to Lettau?
-- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Thu, Nov 12, 2020, at 7:52 PM
Too busy counting votes. Biden is ahead by about 5 million already.
Furthermore, it's probable that Trump's 70 million includes those that may have voted for him but are glad he lost.
It wouldn't surprise anyone if about half of his votes were for party, not for the person.
-- Posted by Rick Lettau on Thu, Nov 12, 2020, at 11:02 PM
-- Posted by Rick Lettau on Thu, Nov 12, 2020, at 11:02 PM
Poor Lettau, so eaten up by hatred for Trump and suffering from TDS.
The one comforting thing to me no matter how this comes out, win lose or draw. Lettau's vote is going to Trump where it really counts at the Electoral College. Missouri won't be sharing the responsibility of electing a man who can no longer think straight or worse a Communistic thinker.
-- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Fri, Nov 13, 2020, at 8:54 AM
-- Posted by Diseased Turtle* on Fri, Nov 13, 2020, at 7:06 AM
Rick, beautiful, but is that the sun setting on America's greatest days?
-- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Fri, Nov 13, 2020, at 8:58 AM
"It wouldn't surprise anyone if about half of his votes were for party, not for the person."
And where do you think the votes for a man who's brain has gone south came from Lettau? Imagine a party hack like you making a statement like that.
Laughable!!
-- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Fri, Nov 13, 2020, at 9:03 AM
Posted by Diseased Turtle* on Fri, Nov 13, 2020, at 9:30 AM
Rick the way I see it. As a protest vote against the other two.
As it stands now it is a foregone conclusion the D or R will win. Will that change someday? Perhaps, but I don't think it will be in our lifetime.
I have tried to split my vote in years past. Probably going to be a cold day in hades before that happens again with the Socialistic/Communistic thinkers taking over the Democratic party. If they ever get complete control, God help this country. We will be the Venezuela of North America. And the party only thinkers will follow like sheep. That is as I see it our greatest danger in this country. We abort babies for population control and other convenience reasons. How long before they get the idea to rid the world of people at a predetermined age because they are an inconvenience?
-- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Fri, Nov 13, 2020, at 9:58 AM
Rick if I have to count 2020 on my age, I think I have been cheated out of a year.
-- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Fri, Nov 13, 2020, at 10:43 AM
- Posted by Diseased Turtle* on Fri, Nov 13, 2020, at 10:44 AM
Yeah, but it's Friday the 13th.
-- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Fri, Nov 13, 2020, at 11:36 AM
Ya know with all the yammering about election results I’ve yet to see one,just one,positive thing said about Biden. It’s all the same hate Trump over and over and I think the anti-Trumpers are way over their head with the “we got rid of him” talk. Pay close attention to who gets appointed to various posts and who like Warren,AOC and their ilk are advocating against. Biden doesn’t scare me. It’s these people that think now that Trump,in all probability,is gone and they have freedom to go nuts. I seriously doubt that’s what the Biden voters really voted “for”.
-- Posted by DA Braswell on Fri, Nov 13, 2020, at 11:57 AM
Posted by Diseased Turtle* on Fri, Nov 13, 2020, at 12:05 PM
Could I add to that we pay thousands of able bodied to sit on their *** and watch the big flat-screen when they should be working.
-- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Fri, Nov 13, 2020, at 12:36 PM
What happened to our Bright BOY?
-- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Fri, Nov 13, 2020, at 12:37 PM
What happened to our Bright BOY?
I do believe the Bright Boy formerly known as the pro Trump Mask Slave among various other fakes got reported too often and vaporized back under the troll bridge.
-- Posted by DA Braswell on Fri, Nov 13, 2020, at 1:05 PM
Dang DA, I am going to miss the entertainment value.
-- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Fri, Nov 13, 2020, at 1:38 PM
Hope it doesn't damage his morbid personality.😇🤣🤣😇
-- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Fri, Nov 13, 2020, at 1:57 PM
He was getting so vile it even got the Nancy pants mad.
-- Posted by DA Braswell on Fri, Nov 13, 2020, at 4:01 PM
DA he was just a much needed diversion from reality for me. Haven't seen much else to laugh at this year.
-- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Fri, Nov 13, 2020, at 4:12 PM
He was getting so vile it even got the Nancy pants mad.
-- Posted by DA Braswell on Fri, Nov 13, 2020, at 6:39 PM
How did that show up again? Must have been worth repeating.
-- Posted by DA Braswell on Fri, Nov 13, 2020, at 6:40 PM
DA, woke to say that has never happened to me, but it wouldn't be truthful. If you figure it out let me know how it happened. Couldn't be our fault though, or could it? 😉🤔😒😏☹
-- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Fri, Nov 13, 2020, at 6:49 PM
Dang "woke" should belike
-- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Fri, Nov 13, 2020, at 6:51 PM
Mr. Braswell,
“….yet to see one, just one, positive thing said about Biden.”
You just haven’t been paying to attention…
In addition to President-Elect Biden being more honest, ethical, moral, well-informed and respected, he’s able to successfully obtain, listen to, follow and act on rational advice from experts.
This is in direct opposition to President Trump’s single, most damaging characteristic. He was unable accept the fact that others were more knowledgeable and capable than he was, and he failed to follow their guidance and counsel in several critical situations (and obeyed his foolhardy “gut.”)
The most blatant example is his totally disastrous handling of the Covid-19 Pandemic. This was compounded by his willingness to lie to the American people, rather than realizing we could handle the truth. He had numerous other blunders involving the wall (Mexico will pay), Iran, North Korea, tariffs, immigration, etc. etc.
It’s never been a “hate Trump” issue, it’s the foolish, unstable things he did.
With Biden, the country and the world. heaved a collective “sigh of relief.” He is rational, non-partisan, dependable and stable, and that’s exactly what the voters were for.
-- Posted by Rick Lettau on Fri, Nov 13, 2020, at 9:00 PM
-- Posted by Rick Lettau on Fri, Nov 13, 2020, at 9:00 PM
And he has never done anything notable in his life except be a politician. A job at which he has no notable accomplishments.
That in itself is enough to not want him as President, not to mention the Communistic thinking running mate who would end up taking over the job since he is mentally not capable.
Don't worry Lettau, no one can hold you to blame your vote is going to Trump in the end.
-- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Fri, Nov 13, 2020, at 11:45 PM
Rick S.,
"He was a member of the dynamic partisan duel from 2008-2016..."
You and Mr. VanGennip keep insisting that the Obama regime "divided the country."
What evidence do you have of that? Seems little different than Trump insisting the "election was rigged" with no evidence.
-- Posted by Rick Lettau on Sat, Nov 14, 2020, at 9:13 AM
Lettau will have a busy 4 years ahead of him if Biden gets declared the winner, trying to put lipstick on a couple of oinkers.
-- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Sat, Nov 14, 2020, at 9:40 AM
Paying attention? Boy oh boy. That first paragraph is the key to Mr Lettau’s full blown off the charts fantasy world.
That being said,when you vote for a socialist agenda you are a socialist.
It took a lot of thought to put my mark next to Trump but it was against everything,not so much Biden,but what he will be manipulated into. That vote does not make me a Trumper,a Republican or a Conservative. Just a smart American. Mr Lettau is gonna get what he declared he was against just for spite.
-- Posted by DA Braswell on Sat, Nov 14, 2020, at 9:56 AM
DA, at least our vote will get counted against Biden right along with Lettau's on the election day that counts.
I will vote against a SociListic/Communistic agenda as long as I am on the green side of the grass.
-- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Sat, Nov 14, 2020, at 10:15 AM
I'd suggest that "smart American Trump voter" is one of the latest and likely one of the greatest oxymorons of all time.
-- Posted by Rick Lettau on Sat, Nov 14, 2020, at 10:17 AM
Rick S.,
"I'm sure you'll have excuses , or reasons , as to why these are false..."
Why would I not point out where some of your assumptions are based on misleading information? Going back in time...
This is what was actually said:
I know some people have been chatting about this "back of the bus" comment. Surreal. The Obama comment wasn't about a bus. It was about a car. For months he's been talking about the GOP running "the car" of the economy into the ditch, and now they want the keys back. So the other he also said:
"Finally we got this car up on level ground. And, yes, it's a little beat up. It needs to go to the body shop. It's got some dents; it needs a tune-up. But it's pointing in the right direction. And now we've got the Republicans tapping us on the shoulder, saying, we want the keys back.
"You can't have the keys back. You don't know how to drive. You can ride with us if you want, but you got to sit in the backseat. We're going to put middle-class America in the front seat. We're looking out for them.
That is racial? Honestly. Give us a break. He's just extending a metaphor he's been using for ages. The only that is racial about that statement is the fact that the man who said it is black, and some people aren't wild about that fact, just as despise what they see as a history of complaint and grievance and whining. If there hadn't been 30 or 40 years of whipping white people into states of rage about that, it would never occur to anyone that there was a racial element to that statement."
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Our conservatives on here are uniquely poised to ignore facts and blindly press on with what they want to believe.
The quote above is about putting the middle class in the front seat of the car. No bus at all, the "back of the bus" is a republican invention.
-- Posted by Rick Lettau on Sat, Nov 14, 2020, at 10:29 AM
An oxymoron is all you got? At least you could deny being pro-Socialism.
-- Posted by DA Braswell on Sat, Nov 14, 2020, at 11:32 AM
When have I ever claimed to be pro socialist? Answer, I'm and never have been.
-- Posted by Rick Lettau on Sat, Nov 14, 2020, at 11:52 AM
Lettau: You may not have never said that you are a Socialist but your beliefs and comments say that you are one.
-- Posted by Truth Slinger on Sat, Nov 14, 2020, at 12:19 PM
What's an example of a comment or something I've said that endorses socialism.
-- Posted by Rick Lettau on Sat, Nov 14, 2020, at 12:51 PM
When have I ever claimed to be pro socialist? Answer, I'm and never have been.
-- Posted by Rick Lettau on Sat, Nov 14, 2020, at 11:52 AM
I’m (I am) and never have been?
WTH,Mr Lettau,you been watching Biden try to spit out something coherent?
But hey,you voted for socialism therefore condone it. No other words needed.
-- Posted by DA Braswell on Sat, Nov 14, 2020, at 1:30 PM
Mr. Braswell,
Obviously a typo. Sorry.
However, I've never voted for socialism, and if you think so, it may be that you misunderstand what it is.
For that matter, it might be educational to learn what you believe socialism is. So, what is it?
-- Posted by Rick Lettau on Sat, Nov 14, 2020, at 1:55 PM
Rick S.,
Except I've given you evidence in providing the actual quote.
-- Posted by Rick Lettau on Sat, Nov 14, 2020, at 1:57 PM
Read Biden’s and the DNC platforms. That should explain the road to socialism well enough. Once Biden is manipulated and his time as a useful idjut is up things will go south to put it mildly. Joe doesn’t bother me,it’s the ones calling for craziness like re-education camps for Trump voters.
FYI-Idjut was not a typo. The Nancy pants didn’t accept the real word.
-- Posted by DA Braswell on Sat, Nov 14, 2020, at 2:36 PM
The quote above is about putting the middle class in the front seat of the car. No bus at all, the "back of the bus" is a republican invention.
-- Posted by Rick Lettau on Sat, Nov 14, 2020, at 10:29 AM
The above quote was juvenile, something you would expect from the grade school level, not a President.
-- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Sat, Nov 14, 2020, at 3:07 PM
Just remember the real election.... Lettau votes for Trump!
-- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Sat, Nov 14, 2020, at 3:10 PM
-- Posted by Diseased Turtle* on Sat, Nov 14, 2020, at 2:09 PM
Rick, Lettau can say what he wants, but you only have to look at his devotion to left wing Democrats to know what he is, and I am no taking his word for it. You know, the duck thing.
-- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Sat, Nov 14, 2020, at 3:19 PM
Try explaining the duck thing and Google balks.
-- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Sat, Nov 14, 2020, at 3:20 PM
-- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Sat, Nov 14, 2020, at 6:36 PM
- Posted by Diseased Turtle* on Sat, Nov 14, 2020, at 6:00 PM
I suspect they would despise the egomaniac that said it.
I know I still do.
-- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Sat, Nov 14, 2020, at 6:47 PM
Rick S.,
“About BLM or the bus…”
Start with BLM…
Explain how BLM is racist.
I don’t expect you will, but then consider this.
In my opinion, the statement or belief that black lives matter is not racist. The primary factor supporting my position is that the opposite of BLM is clearly black lives don’t matter. And if black lives don’t matter is racist, black lives matter can’t be. There shouldn’t be much doubt on this. One concept (BLM) and its opposite (BLDM) can’t both be racist.
As for the “bus,” since you read the quote you know there was no bus. With middle America in the front seat where else could the republicans sit? It was a simple metaphor that the republicans intentionally misinterpreted, nothing more and nothing racist. I can see where our SO conservatives would try to make a mole hill out of out this anthill, independents know better. Furthermore it was probably over 10 years ago, Americans are over it.
-- Posted by Rick Lettau on Sat, Nov 14, 2020, at 7:34 PM
"What do these words say ..."
They say:
"We're going to put middle-class America in the front seat. We're looking out for them."
-- Posted by Rick Lettau on Sat, Nov 14, 2020, at 7:36 PM
Mr. Braswell,
"Once Biden is manipulated..."
I'd suggest that this is not something you can prove. In actuality it sounds like something stemming from SSFW.
or this...
"...calling for craziness like re-education camps for Trump voters."
Is this something that conservatives made up, or do you have some "valid" basis for this fable.
In any case, Trump voters will gradually, on their own, figure out what happened in the real world, and they'll recognize that the "emperor really never had any clothes."
-- Posted by Rick Lettau on Sat, Nov 14, 2020, at 7:56 PM
"The US of A was not this divided until 2008 and that's a fact."
So America elected a black President and became divided. Fi that's the case, and are you implying that this is all Obama's fault?
I don't recall did he change the name of the residence to the "Black House," did he excuse all blacks from paying taxes, did he free all black criminals, did he enslave poor whites, etc. etc? Of course not.
All he did was be black and get elected by the majority of Americans.
How is that "dividing America?"
-- Posted by Rick Lettau on Sat, Nov 14, 2020, at 8:09 PM
If that... not "Fi that."
-- Posted by Rick Lettau on Sat, Nov 14, 2020, at 8:10 PM
-- Posted by Diseased Turtle* on Sat, Nov 14, 2020, at 8:27 PM
And then we got the great divider, who's VP may now be poised to take office, calling for us to do not like they did but to come together.
The Democratic party has typically been that way, their idea of bipartisanship is let's compromise and do it my way.
Bipartisanship and compromise is a two way street and from the lessons of the immediate past, it may be a very rough road trying to work together. Biden will be the puppet at best should he make it, with Harris the worst case scenario. And you can make book on it the self declared poster who says he does not support Socialism will be the first to fall in lockstep if and when the Democrats throw Biden under the bus for Harris. Facts are he will be whatever the party tells him to be.
-- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Sat, Nov 14, 2020, at 9:00 PM
"...and determined that this land we love shall lead all mankind into new frontiers of peace and abundance."
Agree completely...
The Obama administration was able to "lead all mankind" from a period of "you're either with us or against us" to reinstatement of international leadership by America.
Domestically, the Obama administration brought unemployment from around 10% to about 5%, the GDP grew by about 17% and the stock market increased from about 7000 to about 20,000.
Which of these gains were divisive?
"It's more then obvious."
So what exactly is so "obvious?"
-- Posted by Rick Lettau on Sat, Nov 14, 2020, at 9:15 PM
-- Posted by Rick Lettau on Sat, Nov 14, 2020, at 7:34 PM
Call it a metaphor, call it what you like.... it was chidish at best, insulting at the worst.
So far as Black Lives Matter, why do just Black Lives Matter.... All Lives Matter and if that offends... something is wrong with your thinking.
Obama was not a Uniter, he was a divider and there is nothing racist about that.
-- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Sat, Nov 14, 2020, at 9:18 PM
"to reinstatement of international leadership by America."
By sending a plane load of cash to a rogue government who used it to stir up trouble throughout the world?
Or was it his apology tour and kissing the rings of foreign Kings?
Obama was just another one of George Soros's puppets. He was President because of his color and Soros money, no other reason.
Obama wasn't a pimple on the backside of a statesman.
-- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Sat, Nov 14, 2020, at 9:32 PM
The "planeload of cash" was their money. Do you believe the US should steal money from other countries?
There was never an "apology tour." Provide one example. Being honest about anything is still an issue that conservatives find abhorrent.
-- Posted by Rick Lettau on Sat, Nov 14, 2020, at 9:51 PM
Mr. VanGennip,
Try honesty for a change...
Which is correct:
1. Black lives matter.
or
2. Black lives don't matter.
They are opposites, which do you believe, number 1 or number 2?
All you need do is give one of the two numbers.
-- Posted by Rick Lettau on Sat, Nov 14, 2020, at 9:58 PM
Neither is 100% correct Lettau as #1 leads one to the conclusion that is is all that matters. No our Constitution and Bill of rights never specified that any one segment of the population who mattered ignoring the rest of us, all humans matter. If you are so narrow in your thinking that #1 or #2 of your effort towards entrapment is a correct answer, you have a problem.
While we are at it, here is something I believe you were unable to Google and find for yourself. I had read this weeks or months ago, was really surprised you were that far behind the learning curve.
-- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Sat, Nov 14, 2020, at 10:06 PM
Lettau, your question goes right along with this one....
Do you still mistreat your wife?
A yes or no answer will suffice.
-- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Sat, Nov 14, 2020, at 10:08 PM
Come on Mr Lettau, try honesty for a change.... answer my last question!
-- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Sat, Nov 14, 2020, at 10:23 PM
Pretty normal for a VanGennip non-response.
As usual you become confused when you have to think for yourself. Agreeing that black lives matter does not in any way imply that other lives don't.
Doesn't surprise anyone that you're unwilling to make a simple statement along these lines.
On the other subject, Jurek is completely out of touch with any semblance of reality. I've always agreed that the crazy political people are not all or only coservatives.
-- Posted by Rick Lettau on Sat, Nov 14, 2020, at 10:24 PM
Not sure how you want that answered. My answer is I never have and don't.
Do you still mistreat your wife?
-- Posted by Rick Lettau on Sat, Nov 14, 2020, at 10:28 PM
Lettau that question is as valid as yours, a yes or no answer is all that is required backed by what you demand of me. Really don't care about any explanations.
-- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Sat, Nov 14, 2020, at 10:42 PM
On the other subject, Jurek is completely out of touch with any semblance of reality. I've always agreed that the crazy political people are not all or only coservatives.
-- Posted by Rick Lettau on Sat, Nov 14, 2020, at 10:24 PM
Really, you said none of this happened and asked for proof. I just gave it to you.
You may not want to admit it but your party is leaning further left by the day and you will go along with it, is what I predict.
-- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Sat, Nov 14, 2020, at 10:46 PM
Appears Lefty has departed the scene. So I am checking out.
-- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Sat, Nov 14, 2020, at 11:33 PM
Rick S.,
I said nothing about "Obama alone." I was referring to positive changes to the economy that occurred during the Obama administration.
There was nothing divisive about any of those improvements.
If you're seeking "dividers," look no further than the Congress and specifically the Senate.
From day one, McConnell's only goal was to make Obama a "one term President." Others in the republican side openly stated that "if Obama's for it, we must be against it."
They didn't say, may, or might, or could, possibly be "against it." They said "must be" thereby depriving republicans from voting their conscience or even voting their constituent's desires.
The "dividers" live in Congress. They clearly have forgotten Reagan's observation when he pointed out that "you can get a lot done if you don't care who gets the credit."
-- Posted by Rick Lettau on Sun, Nov 15, 2020, at 7:27 AM
My only point on BLM is that if you truly believe that Black Lives Don't Matter, you're part of the problem not the solution.
-- Posted by Rick Lettau on Sun, Nov 15, 2020, at 7:31 AM
The "planeload of cash" was their money. Do you believe the US should steal money from other countries?
There was never an "apology tour." Provide one example. Being honest about anything is still an issue that conservatives find abhorrent.
-- Posted by Rick Lettau on Sat, Nov 14, 2020, at 9:51 PM
Guess I missed these two lies last night.
Iran forfeited that money, it should have been used to repay and repair the damage they did.
Sorry you refuse to recognize it as an apology tour most do and kissing the ring of the king showed obedience and where his thoughts and sympathies lay. It was degrading to our highest office as a nation.
-- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Sun, Nov 15, 2020, at 8:57 AM
Funny,not funny ha ha,when Mr Lettau harumps about validity of re-education camps,rounding up Trump voters,etc, then given a valid example he harumps again.
Just had no idea being a fervent anti-Trumper could lead to.
-- Posted by DA Braswell on Sun, Nov 15, 2020, at 9:07 AM
The "dividers" live in Congress. They clearly have forgotten Reagan's observation when he pointed out that "you can get a lot done if you don't care who gets the credit."
-- Posted by Rick Lettau on Sun, Nov 15, 2020, at 7:27 AM
Please don't try making a favorable comparison to Reagan with Obama. Regan showed humility as you can see. Obama on the other hand could use "I" in a conversation more often than any President I am famiar with . He was an egomaniac.
Obama was a divider, no question about it.
-- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Sun, Nov 15, 2020, at 9:08 AM
My only point on BLM is that if you truly believe that Black Lives Don't Matter, you're part of the problem not the solution.
-- Posted by Rick Lettau on Sun, Nov 15, 2020, at 7:31 AM
Lettau, who stated that black lives do not matter. You are the only one here who seems to be touting that statement.
I believe each and every life matters, including those in their Mother's womb. Black, white, red, yellow, whatever and any combination of the above.
Where I draw the line is when an angry mob gets together and tries to rob, burn, and kill all in the name of some holy cause and thinks they are above our laws.
If I said white lives matter you would call me a racist, so what is the difference when someone gets in your face with black lives matter.
All lives matter, trying to single out one color for that distinction is degrading to all others in my opinion.
What needs to happen here is for Lettau to stop trying to put words into the mouth of others.
Google I fail to find anything not civil in the above.
-- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Sun, Nov 15, 2020, at 9:31 AM
Mr. Braswell,
Not sure which is sadded...
Some unstable individual speculating about "...rounding up Trump voters..." or anyone giving that fiction any credibility.
Clearly you're more than mature enough to disregard this.
-- Posted by Rick Lettau on Sun, Nov 15, 2020, at 10:38 AM
-- Posted by Rick Lettau on Sun, Nov 15, 2020, at 10:38 AM
Lettau, it happened in Natzi Germany and there were similarities in their philosophies and the Leftist Democrats according to something I read recently. We all know the political correctness thinking tries to control how we all think.
-- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Sun, Nov 15, 2020, at 10:59 AM
One unstable individual? Ah,kinda waiting on that. If it was just one I’d agree. Ready for some more? I got ‘em!
-- Posted by DA Braswell on Sun, Nov 15, 2020, at 11:06 AM
DA, if their was only the one unstable individual in the Democratic Party, I would say, let's just give Lettau a break and go on with life, comforted in the fact Bollinger County can handle it. But he's not the only one.
-- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Sun, Nov 15, 2020, at 11:11 AM
Wheels,watching the Masters and thinking I should be getting the pool uncovered and planning my Easter dinner.
-- Posted by DA Braswell on Sun, Nov 15, 2020, at 11:47 AM
-- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Sun, Nov 15, 2020, at 12:18 PM
-- Posted by Diseased Turtle* on Sun, Nov 15, 2020, at 11:49 AM
Rick then you didn't have to dress one out and carry him out of the woods.
I got to that point some years back, sitting out there freezing my bunns off and thinking, I shoot Bambi then I have to dress him out and carry him to the car. So I leave that chore to the younger generation. I survive at the meat counter of the local supermarket. It's just so much easier on my body. And elk hunting in Colorado could make a vegetarian out of one. Carry a hind quarter of an elk on your shoulder up and down dale was hard on a Missouri lowlander already a good number of years back. Isn't much oxygen in that air out there.
-- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Sun, Nov 15, 2020, at 7:59 PM
CWD is rampant this year spreading like wildfire in the SJW’s......:
There was a super spreader of it in DC when Burn Loot and Mayhem showed up.
-- Posted by DA Braswell on Mon, Nov 16, 2020, at 11:18 AM
Rick, I think you have it figured out. It's Grandkids turn to learn with son-in-law responsibility to teach. I have turned into a wuss who likes being warm.
Doesn't matter right now anyway as I am a primary care taker of a sick spouse.
Take my word for it getting old ain't for sissies.
Good grief Google have you lost your programmed mind?
-- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Mon, Nov 16, 2020, at 12:20 PM
This is an interesting article. If it is true it blows Lettau's theory about good old Joe's honesty.
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