What drugs were the GQ editors on when this announcement was made.
-- Posted by David Schaefer on Mon, Nov 13, 2017, at 5:19 PM
Right up there with several other losers they've awarded their "Man of the Year" to...
Barack Obama
Kanye West
Bill Clinton
Steve Colbert
JayZ
Racial dividers and sexual assaulters. Kaepernick will fit in well with this group.
-- Posted by Doug Williams 4/24 on Mon, Nov 13, 2017, at 6:19 PM
Both the dude and the magazine are washed up has been wanna-be's .
-- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Mon, Nov 13, 2017, at 7:08 PM
Waiting for Mr. Common to take the side of Kaepernick and impress me with his great reasoning powers for this matter.
-- Posted by David Schaefer on Mon, Nov 13, 2017, at 8:19 PM
One man's simple act of protest has brought a cause he is passionate about to the forefront and caused a national discussion, not to mention caused others to carry on his protest even after he is no longer on the field.
Agree or disagree with his message, how can you dispute that that isn't the quintessential act of being an American citizen?
-- Posted by Mike Sneller on Tue, Nov 14, 2017, at 8:24 AM
Agree or disagree with his message, how can you dispute that that isn't the quintessential act of being an American citizen?
-- Posted by Mike Sneller on Tue, Nov 14, 2017, at 8:24 AM
Mic2: Kaepernick is indeed an American citizen who would have been better served by showing his protest in a different way. All he has done is to cause the NFL to lose many sponsors and fans by the thousands. A better American citizen of the year would have been one of the many first responders during hurricane Harvey or the plumber who shot the killer after the church massacre in Texas.
-- Posted by David Schaefer on Tue, Nov 14, 2017, at 9:01 AM
-- Posted by David Schaefer on Tue, Nov 14, 2017, at 9:18 AM
Agree or disagree with his message, how can you dispute that that isn't the quintessential act of being an American citizen? -- Posted by Mike Sneller on Tue, Nov 14, 2017, at 8:24 AM
One man didn't do this. Martin Luther King suffered more and did more than Kaepernick ever thought of - as a multi-millionaire raised with privilege.
The most important people here are the fans and many of them don't want mister Kaepernicks antics before, during or after a game being watched despite your continued desire to convince them otherwise. Kaepernick is nothing but a regular American like the rest of us without fans. Same is true of the NFL.
It really isn't that complicated... Michael Brown was no hero. Neither are a majority of the felons / criminals killed by police JUSTIFIABLY - as Eric Holder and Barack Obama have agreed.
Kaepernick is a poor quarterback looking for a problem to raise his popularity.
-- Posted by Doug Williams 4/24 on Tue, Nov 14, 2017, at 9:25 AM
One man didn't do this. Martin Luther King suffered more and did more than Kaepernick ever thought of -- Posted by Doug Williams on Tue, Nov 14, 2017, at 9:25 AM
Of course. I don't think MLK would have been an appropriate choice for citizen of the 2017 considering his death was nearly 50 years ago.
You've completely ignored the point of my post: Whether you like his message or not, one man getting the attention of the nation through a simple act of protest is demonstrating what being an American citizen is all about.
The most important people here are the fans and many of them don't want mister Kaepernicks antics before, during or after a game being watched -- Posted by Doug Williams on Tue, Nov 14, 2017, at 9:25 AM
Well, too bad. Despite your desire to silence him, he has a right to protest whether you like it or not. His right to free speech has been achieved through the sacrifices of many people over the past ~250 years...if you're going to demand that he stop a protest during the national anthem, you're turning you're turning your back on what that anthem stands for.
-- Posted by Mike Sneller on Tue, Nov 14, 2017, at 9:47 AM
Mic2: Kaepernick is indeed an American citizen who would have been better served by showing his protest in a different way. -- Posted by David Schaefer on Tue, Nov 14, 2017, at 9:01 AM
In your opinion, how should he have protested?
-- Posted by Mike Sneller on Tue, Nov 14, 2017, at 9:48 AM
Despite your desire to silence him, he has a right to protest whether you like it or not. -- Posted by Mike Sneller on Tue, Nov 14, 2017, at 9:47 AM
Back to the liberal spin of straw men. Making up arguments so you can argue.
For the 100th time no one said he doesn't have the right to do so. You seem to believe that fans who disagree shouldn't have the right to protest by not watching Kaepernick-the-millionaire protest about how bad he is treated in America.
If I'm a teacher in high school I have a constitutional right to express my opinions in class. And I can always be fired for expressing those opinions in an INAPPROPRIATE environment. Somehow you think that isn't legal or a good idea? Hmmm.... I'd like to know where you work and want you can and cannot say. You know you can't get buy with anything you want to say or do at work.
You seem to believe that African American protestors have some constitutional protected status to say and do anything they want.
It sucks for liberals that Americans (NFL fans) can speak their mind and punish the NFL and it's players. I think it's awesome.
-- Posted by Doug Williams 4/24 on Tue, Nov 14, 2017, at 10:47 AM
For the 100th time no one said he doesn't have the right to do so. You seem to believe that fans who disagree shouldn't have the right to protest by not watching Kaepernick-the-millionaire protest about how bad he is treated in America.
-- Posted by Doug Williams on Tue, Nov 14, 2017, at 10:47 AM
The issue for most isn't the protest, but rather that the protest isn't being shut down. They want the protest silenced.
You seem to believe that African American protestors have some constitutional protected status to say and do anything they want.
-- Posted by Doug Williams on Tue, Nov 14, 2017, at 10:47 AM
What does the race of the protestors have to do with anything?
Oh, yeah. I've been away for a while; I'd forgotten that you're openly racist. Should I protest the SE Missourian because they aren't stopping you're right to express your racism?
It sucks for liberals that Americans (NFL fans) can speak their mind and punish the NFL and it's players. I think it's awesome.
-- Posted by Doug Williams on Tue, Nov 14, 2017, at 10:47 AM
Why are you "punishing" the NFL? Oh, yeah...just like I said, you want them to stop the protests. Gee, isn't that exactly what I've said?
I don't care who does or doesn't watch what. But don't pretend you're boycotting for any reason other than the fact that no one is preventing players from exercising their rights to free speech and expression.
-- Posted by Mike Sneller on Tue, Nov 14, 2017, at 10:58 AM
In your opinion, how should he have protested?
-- Posted by Mike Sneller on Tue, Nov 14, 2017, at 9:48 AM
Mic2: He could have stand on the sidewalk outside of the football stadium along with his supporters with signs stating what his protest was about. The tv crews could then interview him thus getting his real message out for everyone to know.
-- Posted by David Schaefer on Tue, Nov 14, 2017, at 11:17 AM
Mic2: He could have stand on the sidewalk outside of the football stadium along with his supporters with signs stating what his protest was about. The tv crews could then interview him thus getting his real message out for everyone to know.
-- Posted by David Schaefer on Tue, Nov 14, 2017, at 11:17 AM
He wasn't available to stand on the sidewalk as he was on the field.
-- Posted by Mike Sneller on Tue, Nov 14, 2017, at 12:02 PM
He wasn't available to stand on the sidewalk as he was on the field.
-- Posted by Mike Sneller on Tue, Nov 14, 2017, at 12:02 PM
Mic2: Did he stay on the field 24 hrs. per day? Good grief Mic2 get you head on straight.
-- Posted by David Schaefer on Tue, Nov 14, 2017, at 12:05 PM
They want the protest silenced.-- Posted by Mike Sneller on Tue, Nov 14, 2017, at 10:58 AM
No they don't. They want the protest out of the NFL games. Get it?
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Oh, yeah. I've been away for a while; -- Posted by Mike Sneller on Tue, Nov 14, 2017, at 10:58 AM
And you weren't missed. Because your race-baiting is incessant and a weak liberal tactic. Just like your straw man arguments - creating points no one else said to argue with yourself. It's a form of mental illness. Seek help.
Show me anywhere that the protest is over the treatment of white people by police. I'll await your spin, lies and misleading.
-- Posted by Doug Williams 4/24 on Tue, Nov 14, 2017, at 12:20 PM
When the NFL season is over what happens ?
What are the protesters doing to help the communities they are protesting for ?
How are sales going for the protesters jerseys ?
When it's time to renew contacts , are the NFL players united as one or do each player negotiate for how ever much they can get ?
Is it really about the protest or is it really about the player ?
-- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Tue, Nov 14, 2017, at 3:38 PM
Show me anywhere that the protest is over the treatment of white people by police. I'll await your spin, lies and misleading.
-- Posted by Doug Williams on Tue, Nov 14, 2017, at 12:20 PM
The protests are about Civil Rights .
-- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Tue, Nov 14, 2017, at 3:40 PM
Agree or disagree with his message, how can you dispute that that isn't the quintessential act of being an American citizen?
-- Posted by Mike Sneller on Tue, Nov 14, 2017, at 8:24 AM
That is easy, there is a time and place for everything. While playing the National Anthem and everyone able was standing with their hand on their heart was neither the time or place.
Further, if he wanted to protest, while on the clock for his boss was not the time to protest either.
He would have received more attention and sympathy for his cause from me if he would have prostrated himself on the railroad track.
-- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Tue, Nov 14, 2017, at 3:50 PM
"What do you think of Kaepernick being named Citizen of the Year?"
I think nothing of it, never heard of or seen the magazine. Freedom of speech was was about government not controlling the press and peaceable assembly to address grievances with the federal government. A football player not adhering to the rules of his contract should be settled in civil court after he is dismissed and removed for not complying with his contract to follow the rules of conduct of his employer.
-- Posted by R. W. Bess on Tue, Nov 14, 2017, at 6:16 PM
Will you stop making sense .
-- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Tue, Nov 14, 2017, at 9:48 PM
Mic2: Did he stay on the field 24 hrs. per day? Good grief Mic2 get you head on straight.
-- Posted by David Schaefer on Tue, Nov 14, 2017, at 12:05 PM
Well, no, but it wouldn't make sense to stand outside the stadium when no game was being played.
-- Posted by Mike Sneller on Wed, Nov 15, 2017, at 8:36 AM
That is easy, there is a time and place for everything. While playing the National Anthem and everyone able was standing with their hand on their heart was neither the time or place.-- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Tue, Nov 14, 2017, at 3:50 PM
Seems like it was the perfect place, as he was able to draw national attention to his cause.
Further, if he wanted to protest, while on the clock for his boss was not the time to protest either.-- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Tue, Nov 14, 2017, at 3:50 PM
Well, that's between him and his boss, not you or I.
-- Posted by Mike Sneller on Wed, Nov 15, 2017, at 8:40 AM
Well, no, but it wouldn't make sense to stand outside the stadium when no game was being played.
-- Posted by Mike Sneller on Wed, Nov 15, 2017, at 8:36 AM
Mic2: Nice deflection but he could choose to hold a press conference while out front of the stadium along with his supporters. When you protest during the National Anthem you are protesting the men and women who fought and die for the USA. If you are protesting a different topic you protest elsewhere at a different time and place. That's his right as well as any USA citizen to do so.
-- Posted by David Schaefer on Wed, Nov 15, 2017, at 2:48 PM
Mic2: Nice deflection but he could choose to hold a press conference while out front of the stadium along with his supporters.-- Posted by David Schaefer on Wed, Nov 15, 2017, at 2:48 PM
Sure, but that's not a protest.
When you protest during the National Anthem you are protesting the men and women who fought and die for the USA. -- Posted by David Schaefer on Wed, Nov 15, 2017, at 2:48 PM
No, you're not. Those protesting have made it quite clear what they are protesting.
If you are protesting a different topic you protest elsewhere at a different time and place. -- Posted by David Schaefer on Wed, Nov 15, 2017, at 2:48 PM
Why? Like I said earlier, it seems the time and place he chose, and others have followed, was the perfect time and place, given the exposure that's been given to his protest and the subject of it.
-- Posted by Mike Sneller on Wed, Nov 15, 2017, at 3:31 PM
Like I said earlier, it seems the time and place he chose, and others have followed, was the perfect time and place, given the exposure that's been given to his protest and the subject of it. -- Posted by Mike Sneller on Wed, Nov 15, 2017, at 3:31 PM
And like I've said, you're no judge of what is "right" or "wrong" with your leftist bias.
The PROOF that this is not acceptable... the PROOF that it isn't the right time... the PROOF that it is not the right place is the reaction of the fans. And that's something that you have no control over. The FANS - who matter - don't like it and the players, teams and league are paying a hefty price.
That's all the PROOF I need. Not a leftist opinion. Spin that.
-- Posted by Doug Williams 4/24 on Wed, Nov 15, 2017, at 3:37 PM
Dug: I give up on Mic2, his mind is closed or never was opened.
-- Posted by David Schaefer on Wed, Nov 15, 2017, at 5:43 PM
The PROOF that this is not acceptable... the PROOF that it isn't the right time... the PROOF that it is not the right place is the reaction of the fans. And that's something that you have no control over. The FANS - who matter - don't like it and the players, teams and league are paying a hefty price.
-- Posted by Doug Williams on Wed, Nov 15, 2017, at 3:37 PM
That's actually evidence that the time and place is correct. The whole point of a protest is to draw attention to a cause. You're saying that he's drawn a lot of attention to his cause.
Seems like he chose a great time and place.
-- Posted by Mike Sneller on Thu, Nov 16, 2017, at 10:11 AM
his mind is closed or never was opened.
-- Posted by David Schaefer on Wed, Nov 15, 2017, at 5:43 PM
Why do you say that? Because I found flaws in what you've suggested?
Did you consider that perhaps you should open your mind to the fact that the flaws I've pointed out are valid?
-- Posted by Mike Sneller on Thu, Nov 16, 2017, at 10:13 AM
Flaws? Ha.
Getting bad attention is not the same as getting good attention. Of course, based on your posts and behavior, it's obvious you've never figured out the difference.
The FANS know - and Kaepernick's misguided protest is getting bad attention.
-- Posted by Doug Williams 4/24 on Thu, Nov 16, 2017, at 10:31 AM
The FANS know - and Kaepernick's misguided protest is getting bad attention.
-- Posted by Doug Williams on Thu, Nov 16, 2017, at 10:31 AM
If a protest isn't disliked by some people, then it's not a very effective protest.
Just because YOU don't like something, doesn't mean it's inherently bad or wrong.
-- Posted by Mike Sneller on Thu, Nov 16, 2017, at 10:42 AM
Why do you say that? Because I found flaws in what you've suggested?
Did you consider that perhaps you should open your mind to the fact that the flaws I've pointed out are valid?
-- Posted by Mike Sneller on Thu, Nov 16, 2017, at 10:13 AM
Mic2: Your mind is closed because I found flaws in your suggestions. Why not read again what I stated on Nov 15, 2017, at 2:48 PM. Then let's hear from you.
-- Posted by David Schaefer on Thu, Nov 16, 2017, at 10:44 AM
-- Posted by David Schaefer on Thu, Nov 16, 2017, at 10:44 AM
I already responded to that post:
Mic2: Nice deflection but he could choose to hold a press conference while out front of the stadium along with his supporters.-- Posted by David Schaefer on Wed, Nov 15, 2017, at 2:48 PM
Sure, but that's not a protest.
When you protest during the National Anthem you are protesting the men and women who fought and die for the USA. -- Posted by David Schaefer on Wed, Nov 15, 2017, at 2:48 PM
No, you're not. Those protesting have made it quite clear what they are protesting.
If you are protesting a different topic you protest elsewhere at a different time and place. -- Posted by David Schaefer on Wed, Nov 15, 2017, at 2:48 PM
Why? Like I said earlier, it seems the time and place he chose, and others have followed, was the perfect time and place, given the exposure that's been given to his protest and the subject of it.
-- Posted by Mike Sneller on Wed, Nov 15, 2017, at 3:31 PM
-- Posted by Mike Sneller on Thu, Nov 16, 2017, at 10:48 AM
-- Posted by Mike Sneller on Thu, Nov 16, 2017, at 10:48 AM
Mic2: Using your logic, the BLM folks should protest during the National anthem because more people would see them. Good grief Mic2 screw your head back on straight.
-- Posted by David Schaefer on Thu, Nov 16, 2017, at 11:23 AM
Mic2: Using your logic, the BLM folks should protest during the National anthem because more people would see them.
-- Posted by David Schaefer on Thu, Nov 16, 2017, at 11:23 AM
What's wrong with that logic?
-- Posted by Mike Sneller on Thu, Nov 16, 2017, at 11:27 AM
If a protest isn't disliked by some people, then it's not a very effective protest. Just because YOU don't like something, doesn't mean it's inherently bad or wrong. -- Posted by Mike Sneller on Thu, Nov 16, 2017, at 10:42 AM
Says who? Your old socialist college professor?
The NFL is hurting for one reason and one reason alone. The NFL kneelers. Period. And you can't spin that.
Trying to draw attention to a problem that barely exists and isn't even the biggest problem is a fake cause.
-- Posted by Doug Williams 4/24 on Thu, Nov 16, 2017, at 12:06 PM
What's wrong with that logic?
-- Posted by Mike Sneller on Thu, Nov 16, 2017, at 11:27 AM
Mic2: Guess that's what wrong with you and others of the Dependent Democrats - brain dead if you support that logic.
-- Posted by David Schaefer on Thu, Nov 16, 2017, at 12:06 PM
Says who?
-- Posted by Doug Williams on Thu, Nov 16, 2017, at 12:06 PM
The definition of "protest".
The NFL is hurting for one reason and one reason alone. The NFL kneelers. Period. And you can't spin that.-- Posted by Doug Williams on Thu, Nov 16, 2017, at 12:06 PM
OK, but what does that have to do with anything?
Trying to draw attention to a problem that barely exists and isn't even the biggest problem is a fake cause.
-- Posted by Doug Williams on Thu, Nov 16, 2017, at 12:06 PM
OK, but what does that have to do with anything?
-- Posted by Mike Sneller on Thu, Nov 16, 2017, at 12:09 PM
Mic2: Guess that's what wrong with you and others of the Dependent Democrats - brain dead if you support that logic.
-- Posted by David Schaefer on Thu, Nov 16, 2017, at 12:06 PM
I don't see anything wrong with the logic. What's the issue with the logic?
-- Posted by Mike Sneller on Thu, Nov 16, 2017, at 12:11 PM
I don't see anything wrong with the logic. What's the issue with the logic?
-- Posted by Mike Sneller on Thu, Nov 16, 2017, at 12:11 PM
Mic2: What is the National anthem and what does it represent? What does Kaepernick stand for or kneel for? What does the BLM stand for? Answer - the three are separate and different from one another and not to be used together.
-- Posted by David Schaefer on Thu, Nov 16, 2017, at 12:32 PM
Answer - the three are separate and different from one another and not to be used together.
-- Posted by David Schaefer on Thu, Nov 16, 2017, at 12:32 PM
That's exactly why the protest has been so powerful.
It seems like you're really saying that you don't like people protesting by kneeling during the anthem. That's fine. However, that doesn't mean the logic behind protesting that way is in anyway flawed; if anything you're giving credence to the logic.
-- Posted by Mike Sneller on Thu, Nov 16, 2017, at 12:53 PM
-- Posted by Mike Sneller on Thu, Nov 16, 2017, at 12:53 PM
Mic2: How does not approving of taking the knee during the National anthem gives credence to the logic?
-- Posted by David Schaefer on Thu, Nov 16, 2017, at 1:07 PM
How does not approving of taking the knee during the National anthem gives credence to the logic?
-- Posted by David Schaefer on Thu, Nov 16, 2017, at 1:07 PM
The whole point of a protest is to bring attention to the cause. By you not approving, you're giving it attention, which is what a protest should do.
-- Posted by Mike Sneller on Thu, Nov 16, 2017, at 1:10 PM
The whole point of a protest is to bring attention to the cause. By you not approving, you're giving it attention, which is what a protest should do.
-- Posted by Mike Sneller on Thu, Nov 16, 2017, at 1:10 PM
Mic2: The whole point of a protest is to get others to support your protest and not disapproving of it. You failed just like Colin, BLM, Antifa in getting any support. Have a great couple of hours be back on here later.
-- Posted by David Schaefer on Thu, Nov 16, 2017, at 1:21 PM
The whole point of a protest is to bring attention to the cause. -- Posted by Mike Sneller on Thu, Nov 16, 2017, at 1:10 PM
No it isn't. The whole point of a protest is to bring attention to the cause and get empathy to your cause. Kaepernick and your postings are failing miserably.
You can get attention by killing someone or donating money to feed the poor. Apparently you don't know the difference in "attention". It's obvious.
-- Posted by Doug Williams 4/24 on Thu, Nov 16, 2017, at 1:32 PM
Mic2: The whole point of a protest is to get others to support your protest and not disapproving of it.
-- Posted by David Schaefer on Thu, Nov 16, 2017, at 1:21 PM
The point of a protest is to bring attention to or support the *cause,* not to get people to support the protest. Doing something controversial get a lot more attention than doing something no one disapproves of.
-- Posted by Mike Sneller on Thu, Nov 16, 2017, at 1:39 PM
I have long ago forgotten what these Prima Donna Millionaires are even protesting. But what I have not forgotten is how they are doing so.
They are disrespecting our Flag and our Country and I am sick and ashamed of any American doing so in front of the entire world.
I am sorry that I cannot boycott them as I never watched the crybabies to begin with. But what I can do is to continue voting against any participation against our government subsidizing these bastards with our tax dollars to the tune of millions of tax dollars that could be better spent elsewhere than investing it in stadiums or any other project for their benefit.
-- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Thu, Nov 16, 2017, at 2:35 PM
"But what I can do is to continue voting against any participation against our government"
Should have been.......
'But what I can do is to continue voting against any participation by our government'
-- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Thu, Nov 16, 2017, at 2:38 PM
The point of a protest is to bring attention to or support the *cause,* not to get people to support the protest.
-- Posted by Mike Sneller on Thu, Nov 16, 2017, at 1:39 PM
Mic2: If one doesn't support the protest, one probably won't support the cause.
-- Posted by David Schaefer on Thu, Nov 16, 2017, at 6:04 PM
Doing something controversial get a lot more attention than doing something no one disapproves of.
-- Posted by Mike Sneller on Thu, Nov 16, 2017, at 1:39 PM
I've seen small kids in line at Wal-Mart do the same thing , act up to get attention for what they want .
-- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Thu, Nov 16, 2017, at 6:12 PM
I was thinking the same thing earlier. The only people who will do anything for attention are Kaepernick, Sneller and 2-3 year olds. Even bad attention is good to them.
-- Posted by Doug Williams 4/24 on Thu, Nov 16, 2017, at 7:00 PM
The NFL players are some financially secure individuals .
Why not build some community centers to help kids stay off the streets . Why not help fund some kids education . Why not do some drive alongs with the LEOs to see first hand what's going on . Why not have community meetings with the Peoples to hear and work with their local problems , help finance what they can . Why not protest in these ways instead of drawing attention to themselves for their own financial and person gains ?
It is all about race , the Human race...
-- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Thu, Nov 16, 2017, at 7:35 PM
Like the Hollywood people that have grew up pretending to be someone else on screen all their lives, some of these youngsters grew up finding themselves stars not knowing who they are. They suddenly realize they need to find themselves.
They are desperate to fill the void and seek a "cause".
I seriously doubt if this guy knows the cops he depicts on his socks as pigs protect his arena. He is probably ignorant of the reason the anthem is played before major events.
I could not care less about a few idiots allowed to disrupt because their bosses are afraid they will be called racist if they give in to such ignorance gone to seed.
-- Posted by R. W. Bess on Thu, Nov 16, 2017, at 9:36 PM
Colin Kaepernick summed up in 5 words: Stupid is as stupid does.
-- Posted by David Schaefer on Fri, Nov 17, 2017, at 8:24 AM
Why not build some community centers to help kids stay off the streets . Why not help fund some kids education . Why not do some drive alongs with the LEOs to see first hand what's going on . Why not have community meetings with the Peoples to hear and work with their local problems , help finance what they can . Why not protest in these ways instead of drawing attention to themselves for their own financial and person gains
-- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Thu, Nov 16, 2017, at 7:35 PM
Those are great things and I don't know why you would assume people who protest do not do those things.
They aren't protests, though.
-- Posted by Mike Sneller on Fri, Nov 17, 2017, at 10:10 AM
I was thinking the same thing earlier. The only people who will do anything for attention are Kaepernick, Sneller and 2-3 year olds. Even bad attention is good to them.
-- Posted by Doug Williams on Thu, Nov 16, 2017, at 7:00 PM
What do I have to do with this? Are you unable to have a discussion with someone who might disagree with you without making it personal?
This conversation has nothing to do with me.
-- Posted by Mike Sneller on Fri, Nov 17, 2017, at 10:12 AM
Stop and think about this a moment. Don't you make it about you when you always, not occasionally, but always, have to insist on being correct and everybody else is wrong?
-- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Fri, Nov 17, 2017, at 10:50 AM
No, I do not, mainly because I never insist on being correct nor say that everybody else is wrong.
It's never about me. Ever, so we can stop discussing me.
-- Posted by Mike Sneller on Fri, Nov 17, 2017, at 11:10 AM
Are you unable to have a discussion with someone who might disagree with you without making it personal? This conversation has nothing to do with me. -- Posted by Mike Sneller on Fri, Nov 17, 2017, at 10:12 AM
Are you? Racist?
-- Posted by Doug Williams 4/24 on Fri, Nov 17, 2017, at 4:22 PM
It's never about me. Ever, so we can stop discussing me.
-- Posted by Mike Sneller on Fri, Nov 17, 2017, at 11:10 AM
Mic2: You are the one that is making it about you....no one else cares what you might think and I for one would just as soon discuss bedbugs reproduction than to discuss your comments.
-- Posted by David Schaefer on Fri, Nov 17, 2017, at 8:54 PM
Those are great things and I don't know why you would assume people who protest do not do those things.
They aren't protests, though.
-- Posted by Mike Sneller on Fri, Nov 17, 2017, at 10:10 AM
I make suggestions . I post opinions . I assume nothing .
Now you decide what a protest is and what isn't -- who is presuming and who isn't ?
-- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Sat, Nov 18, 2017, at 3:39 AM
More "racist" facts for Sneller and his buddy Kaepernick...
"Over 10 years Blacks made up only 13 percent of the national population (and black males made up an even smaller percentage), but they committed 43 percent of the murders of police officers -- which is obviously a disproportionally high percentage. Another sad fact: "79% of the suspects who fired on NYPD officers in 2012 were black; 5% were white." - according to the NY City statistics themselves.
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What was Kaepernick protesting?
-- Posted by Doug Williams 4/24 on Sat, Nov 18, 2017, at 8:50 AM
What was Kaepernick protesting?
-- Posted by Doug Williams on Sat, Nov 18, 2017, at 8:50 AM
Dug: Stupid is as stupid does.
-- Posted by David Schaefer on Sat, Nov 18, 2017, at 9:09 AM
-- Posted by David Schaefer on Sun, Nov 19, 2017, at 9:09 AM
Good one Semo471!!
The NFL Players who take a knee found a damed poor venue for their protesting.
Trump was right! They are wrong and too hard headed to admit it.
-- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Sun, Nov 19, 2017, at 9:19 AM
I wonder if Sneller will take a knee for the poor rookie cop shot in the head and killed in Pittsburgh the other day? Killed by a black man at point blank with a shot to the head.
A fake "problem" from Kaepernick and Sneller... Cops are killed by blacks at FAR greater rates than blacks killed by cops.
Anybody remember when the NFL forbid players from recognizing police killed in the line of duty?
"NFL won't let Cowboys wear decals supporting Dallas police in regular season. The 'Arm in Arm' decals they wore in training camp were rejected by the league for the regular season"
Where was Sneller then? Supporting NFL players? He's probably never even seen 10 minutes of an NFL game in his life.
-- Posted by Doug Williams 4/24 on Sun, Nov 19, 2017, at 11:45 AM
Mic2 must have had his computer taken away by his parents - wonder why?
-- Posted by David Schaefer on Sun, Nov 19, 2017, at 12:32 PM
Nah, he is mostly a 40 hr per week poster when on the boss's time. His husband may not allow weekend posting.
-- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Sun, Nov 19, 2017, at 12:44 PM
-- Posted by Mike Sneller on Sun, Nov 19, 2017, at 12:44 PM
Failed deflection.
Anybody remember when the NFL forbid players from recognizing police killed in the line of duty? Where was Sneller then? Supporting NFL players? He's probably never even seen 10 minutes of an NFL game in his life. -- Posted by Doug Williams on Sun, Nov 19, 2017, at 11:45 AM
Where were you just a couple of short years ago? You were posting on here. You apparently aren't concerned about the killing of police are you? Why do you define such a narrow path of concern over such a smidgen of statistical insignificance (police killing blacks) and ignore a much larger problem - the killing of innocent police?
-- Posted by Doug Williams 4/24 on Sun, Nov 19, 2017, at 1:14 PM
Mic2: You are the one that is making it about you..
-- Posted by David Schaefer on Fri, Nov 17, 2017, at 8:54 PM
Nope:
Where were you just a couple of short years ago? You were posting on here. You apparently aren't concerned about the killing of police are you? Why do you define such a narrow path of concern over such a smidgen of statistical insignificance (police killing blacks) and ignore a much larger problem - the killing of innocent police?
-- Posted by Doug Williams on Sun, Nov 19, 2017, at 1:14 PM
-- Posted by Mike Sneller on Sun, Nov 19, 2017, at 1:40 PM
-- Posted by Mike Sneller on Sun, Nov 19, 2017, at 1:40 PM
The very definition of deflection.
Post one person's comment to avoid addressing the issue - your failed attempt to get support for a failed protest you believe in.
Answering questions too tough for you Mike?
-- Posted by Doug Williams 4/24 on Sun, Nov 19, 2017, at 1:55 PM
Mic2: You are the one that is making it about you..
-- Posted by David Schaefer on Fri, Nov 17, 2017, at 8:54 PM
Nope:
I think I have figured this out. It i the sabbaath and Sneller is doing penance for his sins by pledging to not speak on Sundays.
-- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Sun, Nov 19, 2017, at 1:56 PM
-- Posted by Mike Sneller on Sun, Nov 19, 2017, at 1:56 PM
Mic2: You are the one that is making it about you..
-- Posted by David Schaefer on Fri, Nov 17, 2017, at 8:54 PM
Nope:
Answering questions too tough for you Mike?
-- Posted by Doug Williams on Sun, Nov 19, 2017, at 1:55 PM
-- Posted by Mike Sneller on Sun, Nov 19, 2017, at 1:57 PM
😂😂😂😂😕
-- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Sun, Nov 19, 2017, at 2:01 PM
-- Posted by Mike Sneller on Sun, Nov 19, 2017, at 1:57 PM
Call people racists for quoting facts. Call people names for years. Call the FBI for the most ridiculous of reasons.
What do you expect?
Keep deflecting Sneller. You're wrong on this and running from the truth. Quit hiding. Answer the questions.
-- Posted by Doug Williams 4/24 on Sun, Nov 19, 2017, at 3:47 PM
Oh - and I forgot to add reporting and getting posters banned for years. And you want empathy?
:-(
-- Posted by Doug Williams 4/24 on Sun, Nov 19, 2017, at 3:59 PM
Would someone explain Mic2 statements or lack of statements today....seemed like it's in a code or something.
-- Posted by David Schaefer on Sun, Nov 19, 2017, at 6:54 PM
Colin K.should just move to another country. Every time he kneels he spits in the face of those who have fought and died for his asp to be in the luxury is it in today.
His disrespect is now being taught to the young and rags like GQ are no better than The National Enquirer naming someone like him a citizen of anything but disrespectful scumbags.
-- Posted by Karen Jones on Mon, Nov 20, 2017, at 7:38 AM
Would someone explain Mic2 statements or lack of statements today....seemed like it's in a code or something.
-- Posted by David Schaefer on Sun, Nov 19, 2017, at 6:54 PM
Just showing that you were completely wrong when you said, "You are the one that is making it about you"
Clearly that's not the case.
-- Posted by Mike Sneller on Mon, Nov 20, 2017, at 9:43 AM
Colin K.should just move to another country. Every time he kneels he spits in the face of those who have fought and died for his asp to be in the luxury is it in today.
-- Posted by Karen Jones on Mon, Nov 20, 2017, at 7:38 AM
Telling someone that should move to another country because they are exercising their 1st amendment rights spits in the face of those who have fought and died for what our country stands for.
You don't have to like his cause. You don't have to like the way he's protesting, but to tell him he should leave the country because of that (or boycotting the NFL because they won't stop it) is so much more offensive than not standing for the national anthem.
-- Posted by Mike Sneller on Mon, Nov 20, 2017, at 9:45 AM
Keep deflecting Sneller.
-- Posted by Doug Williams on Sun, Nov 19, 2017, at 3:47 PM
I'm not deflecting. I was responding directly to David's post. Quite the opposite of deflection.
-- Posted by Mike Sneller on Mon, Nov 20, 2017, at 9:47 AM
Mic2: You always deflect your 9:47am post is an example.
Mic2: I do not have to like or support what crap that Colin does or says. Not everything is freedom of speech - try yelling fire in a movie theatre or he's got a gun in a public setting. Just saying that if Colin wants to protest for reasons I don't know then do it in another place or time and not the National anthem that Americans fought and die for....did Colin die for anything?
-- Posted by David Schaefer on Mon, Nov 20, 2017, at 10:39 AM
Mic2: I do not have to like or support what crap that Colin does or says. -- Posted by David Schaefer on Mon, Nov 20, 2017, at 10:39 AM
Of course.
Not everything is freedom of speech - try yelling fire in a movie theatre or he's got a gun in a public setting.-- Posted by David Schaefer on Mon, Nov 20, 2017, at 10:39 AM
True. However, comparing either of those scenarios, which pose grave danger to others to kneeling during the nation anthem is ridiculous.
Just saying that if Colin wants to protest for reasons I don't know then do it in another place or time and not the National anthem that Americans fought and die for
-- Posted by David Schaefer on Mon, Nov 20, 2017, at 10:39 AM
Then you're saying he shouldn't have the right to exercise the 1st amendment in the time and place he's chosen.
THAT is what Americans fought and died for, not the national anthem.
-- Posted by Mike Sneller on Mon, Nov 20, 2017, at 10:44 AM
THAT is what Americans fought and died for, not the national anthem.
-- Posted by Mike Sneller on Mon, Nov 20, 2017, at 10:44 AM
You and too many of your age group have no idea of what Americans fought and died for. It is much more than some over paid Prima Donna football player's rights. He has the right to say what he wants. He just lacks the good judgement to know when and where to say it.
That POS crybaby is not worth the airspace he breaths in and the cyberspace we are wasting here.
-- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Mon, Nov 20, 2017, at 10:58 AM
You and too many of your age group have no idea of what Americans fought and died for.
-- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Mon, Nov 20, 2017, at 10:58 AM
Was it not for the rights enshrined in the Constitution? If not, please enlighten me.
-- Posted by Mike Sneller on Mon, Nov 20, 2017, at 11:04 AM
Then you're saying he shouldn't have the right to exercise the 1st amendment in the time and place he's chosen.
-- Posted by Mike Sneller on Mon, Nov 20, 2017, at 10:44 AM
Mic2: True
-- Posted by David Schaefer on Mon, Nov 20, 2017, at 11:07 AM
Wheels: You can have Mic2, taking girlfriend out to lunch.
-- Posted by David Schaefer on Mon, Nov 20, 2017, at 11:09 AM
Wheels: You can have Mic2, taking girlfriend out to lunch.
-- Posted by David Schaefer on Mon, Nov 20, 2017, at 11:09 AM
How about I go with you and your girlfriend to lunch?
-- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Mon, Nov 20, 2017, at 11:12 AM
Mic2: True
-- Posted by David Schaefer on Mon, Nov 20, 2017, at 11:07 AM
At least you're honest enough with yourself and others to admit it.
-- Posted by Mike Sneller on Mon, Nov 20, 2017, at 11:13 AM
Then you're saying he shouldn't have the right to exercise the 1st amendment in the time and place he's chosen. -- Posted by Mike Sneller on Mon, Nov 20, 2017, at 10:44 AM
Not only David is saying that. So are 100's of thousands - if not million(s) - of NFL fans.
He's paying the price for his 1st amendment disrespect of our flag, our country and the NFL fans. So are other players, the league and owners.
-- Posted by Doug Williams 4/24 on Mon, Nov 20, 2017, at 11:22 AM
Was it not for the rights enshrined in the Constitution? If not, please enlighten me.
-- Posted by Mike Sneller on Mon, Nov 20, 2017, at 11:04 AM
Of course, I said so above. But the right to free speech does not trump all other rights. You cannot pick out one right and ignore all others just because it happens to suit your purpose.
I am surprised at you Leftists, you believe in Political Correctness, no one should say anything offensive according to the Political Correctness crowd. Well this whining millionaire football player is offending many loyal Americans in droves.
So would you have a problem if I used the "n" word when referring to Colin K.?
-- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Mon, Nov 20, 2017, at 11:24 AM
Not only David is saying that. So are 100's of thousands - if not million(s) - of NFL fans.-- Posted by Doug Williams on Mon, Nov 20, 2017, at 11:22 AM
Then what's the point of respecting the national anthem at all? If our rights don't extend to something as simple and unintrusive as not standing for it, what does the anthem really represent?
-- Posted by Mike Sneller on Mon, Nov 20, 2017, at 11:51 AM
Of course, I said so above. But the right to free speech does not trump all other rights. You cannot pick out one right and ignore all others just because it happens to suit your purpose.-- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Mon, Nov 20, 2017, at 11:24 AM
What rights are being ignored?
So would you have a problem if I used the "n" word when referring to Colin K.?
-- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Mon, Nov 20, 2017, at 11:24 AM
Have a problem with it? Of course. Demand your right to say it be revoked because it is offensive to me? Not at all.
You have as much right use an offensive word as he does to make an offensive gesture. I don't have to like it, but I can't take away your right, nor should I demand that from someone else.
-- Posted by Mike Sneller on Mon, Nov 20, 2017, at 11:54 AM
-- Posted by Mike Sneller on Mon, Nov 20, 2017, at 11:51 AM
I see you had no answer for my question.
So far as these excuses, his actions are not unintrusive. If they truly were not we wouldn't be talking about it, now would we?
You Leftists will not be satisfied until the USA stands for the Union of Socialists of America.
-- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Mon, Nov 20, 2017, at 12:00 PM
I see you had no answer for my question.
-- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Mon, Nov 20, 2017, at 12:00 PM
Did I miss something? The only question I saw was regarding the "n" word, which I answered.
So far as these excuses, his actions are not unintrusive. If they truly were not we wouldn't be talking about it, now would we?
-- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Mon, Nov 20, 2017, at 12:00 PM
Something can be unobtrusive while still being worthy of discussion.
-- Posted by Mike Sneller on Mon, Nov 20, 2017, at 12:05 PM
- Posted by Mike Sneller on Mon, Nov 20, 2017, at 11:54 AM
Sorry Charlie, I already have had that right revoked, they now call it hate speech and I can be penalized for saying it.
I never said that Kaapernick never had the right to do what he is doing, I said it is offensive and he has exhibited poor judgement in his venue for using it. If he were on my payroll, he would find another place to do his petty protesting or he could find another place to work. He and those who followed his poor judgement are impacting their employer's bottom line like it or not.
-- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Mon, Nov 20, 2017, at 12:07 PM
I never said that Kaapernick never had the right to do what he is doing
-- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Mon, Nov 20, 2017, at 12:07 PM
Others have, which is what I was referring to.
-- Posted by Mike Sneller on Mon, Nov 20, 2017, at 12:12 PM
You have as much right use an offensive word as he does to make an offensive gesture. I don't have to like it, but I can't take away your right, nor should I demand that from someone else.
-- Posted by Mike Sneller on Mon, Nov 20, 2017, at 11:54 AM
Never used that yellow exclamation point to report posters ? Can't take any right away now , can you .
Hypocrite .
-- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Mon, Nov 20, 2017, at 12:21 PM
Never used that yellow exclamation point to report posters ? Can't take any right away now , can you .
Hypocrite .
-- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Mon, Nov 20, 2017, at 12:21 PM
What does that have to do with anything.
If you feel the SE Missourian is taking away your right to free speech with the guidelines they've established, that's between you and them. It has nothing to do with me or what I have or haven't reported.
-- Posted by Mike Sneller on Mon, Nov 20, 2017, at 12:29 PM
Hypocrite .
-- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Mon, Nov 20, 2017, at 1:19 PM
Mic2: True
-- Posted by David Schaefer on Mon, Nov 20, 2017, at 11:07 AM
At least you're honest enough with yourself and others to admit it.
-- Posted by Mike Sneller on Mon, Nov 20, 2017, at 11:13 AM
Mic2: I tell it like I see it.
*******
If I'm an employee and on the job that means I am suppose to do the job as outlined by the employer....protest on your own time not on the employer's time.
-- Posted by David Schaefer on Mon, Nov 20, 2017, at 5:09 PM
If I'm an employee and on the job that means I am suppose to do the job as outlined by the employer....protest on your own time not on the employer's time.
-- Posted by David Schaefer on Mon, Nov 20, 2017, at 5:09 PM
That is between the employee and the employer. In this situation neither you nor I are either, so that fact is not relevant to this discussion.
-- Posted by Mike Sneller on Mon, Nov 20, 2017, at 6:00 PM
Hao ! Roach and Skit -- Death ? There is no Death , only a changing of the Worlds..
-- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Mon, Nov 20, 2017, at 6:03 PM
In this situation neither you nor I are either, so that fact is not relevant to this discussion. -- Posted by Mike Sneller on Mon, Nov 20, 2017, at 6:00 PM
In this situation you don't play in the NFL either, so nothing you post is relevant to this discussion.
-- Posted by Doug Williams 4/24 on Mon, Nov 20, 2017, at 8:29 PM
That is between the employee and the employer. In this situation neither you nor I are either, so that fact is not relevant to this discussion.
-- Posted by Mike Sneller on Mon, Nov 20, 2017, at 6:00 PM
Mic2: That's OK Mic2 just stay in your bedroom and play with your paper clips....the adults will take it from here.
-- Posted by David Schaefer on Mon, Nov 20, 2017, at 8:47 PM
More evidence of Kaepernick and Sneller's fake protest. Just another example of 100's...
===
"BALLWIN • A police motorcade is expected to bring paralyzed officer Michael Flamion to his new home Tuesday, where organizers are planning street closures to accommodate a crowd of up to 2,000 at the dedication ceremony."
This house is for the Ballwin policeman shot in the neck when he turned to go back to his car during a routine traffic stop. The attempted killer was black. This officer is white.
Just more "racist" facts for you Sneller. Kaepernick is a 2 year old wanting attention. And you're giving it to him.
Not me.
-- Posted by Doug Williams 4/24 on Tue, Nov 21, 2017, at 9:02 AM
Kaepernick is a 2 year old wanting attention. And you're giving it to him.
Not me.
-- Posted by Doug Williams on Tue, Nov 21, 2017, at 9:02 AM
Funny, it's seems like you've been giving him as much attention as I have in this thread.
-- Posted by Mike Sneller on Tue, Nov 21, 2017, at 10:39 AM
"BALLWIN • A police motorcade is expected to bring paralyzed officer Michael Flamion to his new home Tuesday, where organizers are planning street closures to accommodate a crowd of up to 2,000 at the dedication ceremony."
.................
What color of skin are the crowd of up to 2,000 at the dedication ceremony , is it 100% white ?
The statement "This house is for the Ballwin policeman shot in the neck when he turned to go back to his car during a routine traffic stop. The attempted killer was black. This officer is white." is racist in of itself , why not just say the officer was shot in the line of duty ?
Us red like to watch the black and the white bicker back~n~forth endlessly , a decades old comedy . Don't stop now , there has to be an encore...
-- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Tue, Nov 21, 2017, at 10:55 AM
why not just say the officer was shot in the line of duty? -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Tue, Nov 21, 2017, at 10:55 AM
If you'd follow the conversations above you'd see that a guy named Colin Kaepernick is taking a knee to protest the killing of blacks (many of them criminals like Michael Brown) by police. He - and Sneller - believe that is proof there is racism in our policing today.
When in fact police are far more likely to get killed by blacks than blacks getting killed by police. This posting is factual evidence of yet another maiming of a white police officer by a black shooting.
-- Posted by Doug Williams 4/24 on Tue, Nov 21, 2017, at 12:38 PM
The statement "This house is for the Ballwin policeman shot in the neck when he turned to go back to his car during a routine traffic stop. The attempted killer was black. This officer is white." is racist in of itself , why not just say the officer was shot in the line of duty ?
-- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Tue, Nov 21, 2017, at 10:55 AM
You answered your own question: Doug is openly racist, which is why he can't just say an officer was shot in the line of duty, or that people are protesting.
He doesn't try to hide it at all; most people here are just to politically correct to call him out on it.
-- Posted by Mike Sneller on Tue, Nov 21, 2017, at 12:47 PM
-- Posted by Mike Sneller on Tue, Nov 21, 2017, at 12:47 PM
Mic2: You are a Race Baiter....clear as anything.
-- Posted by David Schaefer on Tue, Nov 21, 2017, at 12:59 PM
Mic2: You are a Race Baiter....clear as anything.
-- Posted by David Schaefer on Tue, Nov 21, 2017, at 12:59 PM
Huh?
Doug is the one making racist comments and I'm pointing it out; how does that make me a "race baiter?"
I'm not forcing Doug to make racist comments...he makes those of his own free will.
-- Posted by Mike Sneller on Tue, Nov 21, 2017, at 1:20 PM
-- Posted by Mike Sneller on Tue, Nov 21, 2017, at 12:47 PM
Too politically Correct, have you fallen on your head or something.
Why aren't you scolding Kapernick for reporting cops shooting too many blacks. By your own argument Kapernick is a racist.... his protest should be about cops shooting too many people. So you are supporting a racist.
-- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Tue, Nov 21, 2017, at 1:22 PM
Too politically Correct, have you fallen on your head or something.-- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Tue, Nov 21, 2017, at 1:22 PM
Yep, too politically correct.
Why aren't you scolding Kapernick for reporting cops shooting too many blacks.
-- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Tue, Nov 21, 2017, at 1:22 PM
Kaepernick's not posting here, that I'm aware of, and I have no interest in discussing what he might or might not be "reporting," as those issues are far more complicated than I have the time or inclination to research fully to speak intelligently on them.
-- Posted by Mike Sneller on Tue, Nov 21, 2017, at 1:28 PM
Kaepernick's not posting here, that I'm aware of, and I have no interest in discussing what he might or might not be "reporting," as those issues are far more complicated than I have the time or inclination to research fully to speak intelligently on them.
-- Posted by Mike Sneller on Tue, Nov 21, 2017, at 1:28 PM
Well of course you aren't interested in what Kapernick is protesting.That would destroy your racist stand now wouldn't it?
So there really isn't anything to waste cyberspace on.
Rick was correct in his assessment of you.
-- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Tue, Nov 21, 2017, at 1:49 PM
Kaepernick's not posting here, that I'm aware of, and I have no interest in discussing what he might or might not be "reporting,".
-- Posted by Mike Sneller on Tue, Nov 21, 2017, at 1:28 PM
Mic2: Obama and Trump are not posting on here either so why do you make any comments about them. Better go to your safe place.
-- Posted by David Schaefer on Tue, Nov 21, 2017, at 2:43 PM
Semo471
Sneller doesn't respond well to the truth.
-- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Tue, Nov 21, 2017, at 3:40 PM
If you'd follow the conversations above you'd see that a guy named Colin Kaepernick is taking a knee to protest the killing of blacks (many of them criminals like Michael Brown) by police. He - and Sneller - believe that is proof there is racism in our policing today.
When in fact police are far more likely to get killed by blacks than blacks getting killed by police. This posting is factual evidence of yet another maiming of a white police officer by a black shooting.
-- Posted by Doug Williams on Tue, Nov 21, 2017, at 12:38 PM
The protest are about Civil Rights and Social injustice .
The conversation has been about racism . Your post was racism .
I'm a minority myself , the black and white hissy fit doesn't bother me , if you want to keep the pot stirring , it's your free Right .
I do follow conversations , pull your claws in kitty cat .
-- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Tue, Nov 21, 2017, at 5:45 PM
"A non-white student confessed to writing a racial slur on a girls' bathroom mirror at Parkway Central High School, officials said Tuesday. The bathroom message was "White lives matter" followed by the N-word. The high school principal made an announcement to parents about the message on Nov. 15."
===
Another of many "racist" incidents where a "person of color" (black) wrote the N-word on the school bathroom mirror and everyone was outraged. Except that it turned out to be a black person who wrote it. Like the alleged racist incident at the US Air Force Academy (written by a black student).
I don't know who is more racist - those that lie and write racist statements to create trouble or Sneller who believes them.
-- Posted by Doug Williams 4/24 on Tue, Nov 21, 2017, at 6:06 PM
The protest are about Civil Rights and Social injustice . The conversation has been about racism . Your post was racism. -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Tue, Nov 21, 2017, at 5:45 PM
I'll repeat for the 3rd time for you Rick.
Please tell me when Kaepernick's protest is about white people being killed by police. I'll look forward to your discovery of that.
Until then it's not about "civil rights". It's about rights for Michael Brown (criminal) and many of the other criminals - all black - who have been killed by police and then protests.
Let me know Kaepernick does that kitty cat.
-- Posted by Doug Williams 4/24 on Tue, Nov 21, 2017, at 6:08 PM
Racism and prejudice are not the same thing. The leftist try to incorporate the two to further their agenda of equality. Not equality in natural rights but equality of status, power and wealth.
-- Posted by R. W. Bess on Tue, Nov 21, 2017, at 9:44 PM
I'll repeat for the 3rd time for you Rick.
..............
I'll repeat this for the 3rd time Doug .
I don't care about Kaepernick , what he does or doesn't do , or your fixation with black and white . You're such a silly savage stud muffin when you stick your claws out , you paper tiger . Go meow somewhere else , I couldn't care less , your purr doesn't scare me , I'm Red , hissy fit all you want about Kaepernick , you're making him famous .
-- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Tue, Nov 21, 2017, at 10:35 PM
It's hilarious when kitty cats pretend to bully !
Want some warm milk ?
-- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Tue, Nov 21, 2017, at 10:37 PM
I'm Red , hissy fit all you want about Kaepernick , you're making him famous . -- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Tue, Nov 21, 2017, at 10:35 PM
You're red? I think you're yellow the way you whine and cry on here. Tell us for the 100th time how you've been shot... or how you're red... or how the world should be run like rubbermaid.
You're a legend in your own mind little kitty.
-- Posted by Doug Williams 4/24 on Wed, Nov 22, 2017, at 8:23 AM
What lies behind us and what lies before us are small matters compared to what lies within us .
..........
I offered to meet face to face before so we could settle this like men but you declined so it's apparent who's "yellow" .
Mew ...
-- Posted by Rick Scaggs on Wed, Nov 22, 2017, at 8:41 AM
Well of course you aren't interested in what Kapernick is protesting.That would destroy your racist stand now wouldn't it?
-- Posted by Ralph VanGennip on Tue, Nov 21, 2017, at 1:49 PM
No, I believe I explained quite clearly why I'm not interested in discussing the reason(s) behind the protest.
-- Posted by Mike Sneller on Wed, Nov 22, 2017, at 8:46 AM
Mic2: Obama and Trump are not posting on here either so why do you make any comments about them.
-- Posted by David Schaefer on Tue, Nov 21, 2017, at 2:43 PM
False equivocation.
Ralph asked why I wasn't *scolding* Kaepernick. You changed *scolding* to *discussing*.
-- Posted by Mike Sneller on Wed, Nov 22, 2017, at 8:47 AM
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