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The Irony Of It All
Brad Hollerbach

Armstrong Drive Landowners Have Won The Lottery

Posted Wednesday, March 3, 2010, at 12:00 AM

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  • I see what they're wanting to do; take some of the congestion off of Siemers Dr. The city shouldn't be able to aquire land and build a road outside the city limits. Is the city going to pay to mantain the new road out of town (mowing right of way, filling pot holes, clearing snow and ice, striping, ect.), or will this ammount to an unfunded addition to the roads that the county has to mantain?

    -- Posted by mynameismud on Wed, Mar 3, 2010, at 1:35 AM
  • Siemers is congested? Anyways, any city has to develop infrastructure to build and add businesses, so call me a fan of this move. But hopefully if we do find businesses it won't be more medical or insurance places, I'm starting to get sick of the sight of them.

    -- Posted by almighty on Wed, Mar 3, 2010, at 7:20 AM
  • The city employees claim the city has no money for paving the cross walk at Main and Themis, until the TTF is extended, so they spread sand around pavers. The sand washes out, the pavers sag and create a really nice looking version of a pot hole/speed bump.

    Is it fair to us the taxpayer to use our money to support roads for private development, when a subdivision is required to put in all the roads and infrastructure prior to the plan being approved? The subdivision passes the cost along to the home builder and eventually the owner, who pays property tax based on the value of their property, enhanced by approved streets, sanitary and storm sewers.

    -- Posted by IonU on Wed, Mar 3, 2010, at 7:44 AM
  • Actually Catfish, my understanding is that by purchasing that land, it then becomes part of the city by default. Or at least the roadway does.

    A similar situation exists going out Route K. The area around Notre Dame is part of the city, but I believe that annexation requires the new parts of the city to be adjacent to the existing city.

    That's why Route K leading out to Notre Dame is actually part of the city, but a lot of the property along it is not.

    IonU, here's the funny thing about this expansion:

    One would think that by the city drastically improving the access to these properties that their taxes would go up (Actually, they might go up a little if they are annexed by the city with our higher overall tax rate).

    However, as long as they stay undeveloped their tax rate will remain at the Ag Rate even though they are highly valuable commercial property. For instance, all of those great big lots on Siemer's drive are all "farmland." Assessed 2009 property taxes on them range from about $81 to $1,565 for that acreage. But I bet an independent appraiser would assess that property a whole lot higher.

    Thanks for reading.

    -- Posted by Brad_Hollerbach on Wed, Mar 3, 2010, at 9:00 AM
  • Curious no one has asked who the lucky lottery winners (i.e. property owners) are.

    -- Posted by voyager on Wed, Mar 3, 2010, at 10:08 AM
  • I have a copy of the current engineering drawings from the city and it looks like it will directly impact about 7 parcels of property. The ownership of two of the parcels is not clearly identified, but the remaining five are:

    Albert C. Schabbing Dairy Farms

    Georgia Bierschwal Trust

    Kenneth G. Schwab Trust

    Olive M. Keller

    Robert A. Drury

    I THINK one of the two parcels that I'm unsure about is owned by Drury Land Development. It's along Route K just west of Robin Lane. DLD is indicated as the owner of the property east of Robin Lane up to the rear of Wal-Mart.

    TFR

    -- Posted by Brad_Hollerbach on Wed, Mar 3, 2010, at 10:33 AM
  • Now it all comes together. I was wondering why the new zoning laws were going to allow farm animals. What I don't understand is why in the world they are building this road as a four lane when they should have built LaSalle as a four lane. In the future, the easement on LaSalle is going to cost a fortune. I have my doubts about the present city council.

    Check out the Out of the Past, March 1, 1935. The city council was setting aside $1800 for maintenance of West End Blvd close to the Fairgrounds Park (Capaha Park). Hmmm! The present city council spends money for projects and doesn't set aside money to maintain them. They depend on the taxpayers to cough up the money when the council starts crying about not having money to fix their broken projects. Look out, in the next five or so years, they'll be looking to the taxpayer to fix, repair, replace the water park. You just wait and see.

    -- Posted by Chilin' on Wed, Mar 3, 2010, at 10:45 AM
  • You're right, Chilin' there is no such thing as maintenance-free for anything be that streets or water parks.

    Speaking of the water park, I will be curious to see if it will cover its expenses. I wonder if a government institution have to have liability insurance? That's probably why the previous, "private" water slide that used to be between Cape and Jackson never succeeded. I imagine that liability insurance has to be outrageously expensive for a water park.

    I think the goal of the water park from day one should be to cover it's current expenses and create a nest egg for future maintenance that it will unquestionably need.

    TFR

    -- Posted by Brad_Hollerbach on Wed, Mar 3, 2010, at 11:05 AM
  • There are water parks around the country that have been designed for use year round. Of course, our wonderful city council chose the "cheaper" design. The water park will only be open three months out of the year.

    I get so frustrated when I see how myopic the city council is.

    -- Posted by Chilin' on Wed, Mar 3, 2010, at 11:19 AM
  • I would guess Chilin' that a more year-round water park would also cost a lot more to enclose especially considering the scope of the one we are building.

    Perhaps, the other 9 months of the year, we can drain the pool and market it as the Midwest's Biggest Skate Park.

    Hmmm, sounds like a potential blog topic. Other uses for the water park in the off-season.

    TFR

    -- Posted by Brad_Hollerbach on Wed, Mar 3, 2010, at 11:34 AM
  • Rumor has it that a portion of the proposed road borders what will eventually be government owned as in a state park or conservation area.

    -- Posted by Old John on Wed, Mar 3, 2010, at 7:28 PM