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Wednesday, February 13, 2013

Sean Toohey, a grains broker at the Chicago Board of Trade, who had hip replacement surgery last summer ,walks home from work Monday, Feb. 11, 2013, in Chicago. Routine hip replacement surgery on a healthy patient may cost as little as $11,000 _ or up to nearly $126,000. Toohey said he has good health insurance that covered most of the costs, and it didn't occur to him to ask about price beforehand.
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CHICAGO -- Want to know how much a hip replacement will cost? Many hospitals won't be able to tell you, at least not right away -- if at all. And if you shop around and find centers that can quote a price, the amounts could vary astronomically, a study found.

Routine hip-replacement surgery on a healthy patient without insurance may cost as little as $11,000 -- or nearly $126,000.

That's what researchers found after calling hospitals in every state, 122 in all, asking what a healthy 62-year-old woman would have to pay to get an artificial hip. Hospitals were told the fictitious patient was the caller's grandmother, had no insurance but could afford to pay out of pocket -- that's why knowing the cost information ahead of time was so important.

About 15 percent of hospitals did not provide any price estimate, even after a researcher called back as many as five times.

Researchers were able to obtain a complete price estimate including physician fees from close to half the hospitals. But in most cases, that took contacting the hospital and doctor separately.

"Our calls to hospitals were often greeted by uncertainty and confusion," researchers wrote. "We were frequently transferred between departments, asked to leave messages that were rarely returned, and told that prices could not be estimated without an office visit."

Many hospitals "are just completely unprepared" for cost questions, said Jaime Rosenthal, a Washington University student who co-authored the report.

Providing prices for complex procedures such as hip replacements is difficult because there are so many variables involved, said Southeast Hospital executive vice president Jim Limbaugh and chief financial officer Hubert King.

It is not possible to know what a physician will order during the course of a particular case, they said, making it difficult to estimate costs in advance. Cost of materials also vary widely, even among the different types and brands of surgical implants used for the same procedure, they said.

"There are certain procedures that can be narrowed down and defined very clearly," Limbaugh said, giving the example of straightforward imaging tests such as MRIs and ultrasounds, or routine office visits, for which prices are readily available.

Limbaugh and King encouraged patients to consult with their doctors about the range of possibilities that could arise in the course of complex procedures, including risks and individual health needs, in order to understand what costs might be incurred.

Bobbi Matlock, assistant manager of the business office at Saint Francis Medical Center, said it is impossible to give a completely accurate quote ahead of time because of unknown factors.

"We can provide an estimate based on previous procedures or cases performed by the same surgeon, but patients need to realize that it is not all-inclusive. The final cost could be higher based on test results, the lack of results and the need for additional testing, complications during the procedure, time-based charges or other factors that cannot be known prior to the procedure," Matlock said.

Patients should investigate and understand their insurance coverage, including deductible and co-pay amounts, to get a good indication of what out-of-pocket costs will be, Matlock said.

Most hospitals aren't intentionally hiding costs, they're just not used to patients asking. That's particularly true for patients with health insurance who "don't bother to ask because they know insurance will cover it," said co-author Dr. Peter Cram, a researcher at the University of Iowa's medical school.

But he said that's likely to change as employers increasingly force workers to share more health-care costs by paying higher co-payments and deductibles, making patients more motivated to ask about costs.

The study was published online Monday in JAMA Internal Medicine. A California study published last year about surgery to remove an appendix found similar cost disparities.

American Hospital Association spokeswoman Marie Watteau said hospitals "have a uniform set of charges. Sharing meaningful information, however, is challenging because hospital care is unique and based on each individual patient's needs."

She said states and local hospital associations are the best source for pricing data, and that many states already require or encourage hospitals to report pricing information and make that data available to the public.

U.S. insurance companies typically negotiate to pay less than the billing price. Insured patients' health plans determine what they pay, while uninsured patients may end up paying the full amount.

The study authors noted that Medicare and other large insurers frequently pay between $10,000 and $25,000 for hip replacement surgery.

Sean Toohey, a grains broker at the Chicago Board of Trade, had hip replacement surgery last summer at Loyola University Medical Center in Maywood, Ill. An old sports injury had worn out his left hip, causing "horrendous" pain on the job, where he's on his feet all day filling orders.

Toohey, 54, said his health insurance covered most of the costs, and it didn't occur to him to ask about price beforehand. He was back at work two weeks later and is pain free. That's what matters most to him.

"I never really looked or paid attention" to the cost, he said.

He paid about $7,900, but wasn't sure what the total bill amounted to.

The average charge for hip replacement surgery at Loyola is about $42,000, before the negotiated insurance rates. The most expensive items on a typical hip replacement bill include about $11,000 for the hip implant, said Richard Kudia, Loyola's vice president of patient financial services

Kudia said some patients do ask in advance about costs of surgery and other medical procedures, and those questions require "a little bit of research" to come up with an average estimate. Costs vary from center to center because "there is no standard pricing among hospitals across the country. Each hospital develops its own pricing depending on its market," he said.

An editorial accompanying the hip replacement study said "there is no justification" for the huge cost variation the researchers found.

A few online sites provide price comparisons for common medical procedures, but the editorial said that kind of information "is of almost no value" without information on hospital quality.

A proposed federal measure that would have required states to force hospitals to make their charges public failed to advance in Congress last year but could be revived this year, the editorial says.

"It is time we stopped forcing people to buy health care services blindfolded," the editorial said.

Staff reporter Shay Alderman contributed to this story.


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If we are going to claim to have a healthcare system based on private enterprise, how can we allow a situation where the cost of a product is not available to the consumer? Hospitals want to make the claim that they are cost effective, without sharing with consumers what the cost to them is so that they can engage in a little thing like competitive bidding.

-- Posted by foxtrot007 on Tue, Feb 12, 2013, at 8:56 PM

"Costs vary from center to center because "there is no standard pricing among hospitals across the country. Each hospital develops its own pricing depending on its market," he said. "

Since the local chicken dinner tabloid did not acknowledge the investigative article done by the Post-Dispatch a month ago on the two major advertisers in this region, the statement above says it all. Here's the bottom line: We are in a rural market and therefore will pay much much higher costs for medical care than our counterparts receiving the same care in a metropolitan hospital where economies of scale are reached. As employers move to high deductible plans with HSA's, these plans will ultimately infiltrate the local area, causing people in rural areas to share a bigger burden of their paychecks on health care costs. There are annual IRS limits to what one can save in an HSA, and this puts people in rural areas at a disadvantage.

-- Posted by Beaker on Wed, Feb 13, 2013, at 2:53 PM

One other note...I think the system has to make sure the medical community accepts that the patient has the right to go where the patient wants. I got dropped from a past doctor when I asked to move some lab work to another place that didn't charge as much - he couldn't understand why I was so conscious of costs - he had a "system" that he didn't want to change because lab work was being done by somebody else. He had the attitude that patients should not worry about costs - if it wasn't done right, then patients would end up paying more was his argument.

-- Posted by Beaker on Wed, Feb 13, 2013, at 3:20 PM

Beaker, exactly on target about the SEMissourian not reprinting the Post-Dispatch article. I read both papers on a daily basis and kept waiting for P-D article to at least be referred to by the local paper.

-- Posted by dmt49 on Thu, Feb 14, 2013, at 5:05 PM

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