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Speak Out 12/31/12

Monday, December 31, 2012

Dress code

As a teacher, parent of two CHS students and friend of more than a few CHS teachers, I want to comment on the proposed dress code changes. According to my kids and the teachers I know, the problem is not with the dress code. It is with teachers and administrators doing one of two things. Most often, dress code violations are ignored. I saw that myself this past fall when I had to be on campus for work-related reasons. The other problem is one that has plagued this school for years, despite the current principal's claim that it doesn't happen. Blatant favoritism results in some students getting away with violations while others can't.

Prosecute parents

I think a good solution to the Connecticut issue would be to prosecute the parents for felony child endangerment anytime an under-age person gets access to their firearms. That way the Americans who are being responsible with their firearms should not have to suffer for the ignorance of others. It's getting to where the government has to control everyone because the adults in the U.S. don't have enough sense to do what's right.

Editorial response

It is so sad to continue to read Southeast Missourian editorials excoriating our government for fairly regulating the free enterprise system when it is now widely recognized that the lack of effective government regulation led to the Wall Street meltdown in 2008 and was a major contributor to President Bush's Great Recession.

President Obama

Coming from a politically neutral publication, Time Magazine's choice of President Obama as Person of the Year should silence all of his critics and produce a nationwide consensus that the president has indeed been a transformative figure, leading and continuing to lead the nation in a positive direction, through very challenging and difficult times. Thank you, Mr. President. Thank you.

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Happy New Year and hopefully a great 2013 to everyone.

-- Posted by semo471 on Mon, Dec 31, 2012, at 7:06 AM

Happy New Year to you Semo471.

-- Posted by swampeastmissouri on Mon, Dec 31, 2012, at 7:14 AM

Time is running out in Washington.......tighten up those seat belts because over the fiscal cliff we go due to the hard headed folks in Washington who do nothing but pad their own pocketbooks.

-- Posted by semo471 on Mon, Dec 31, 2012, at 7:18 AM

semo471 stock up on turnips and greens we all might need them if this thing goes over at midnight. You know what bothers me, here we are about to go bankrupt and what do they do in Washington they all receive a pay raise that goes in to affect in March it is 1/2 of one percent but it is the principal of the thing that matters it is kind of like a slap in the peoples faces.

-- Posted by swampeastmissouri on Mon, Dec 31, 2012, at 7:37 AM

Swamp: Blackeye peas, cornbread, and turnips.....yummmmm

-- Posted by semo471 on Mon, Dec 31, 2012, at 7:40 AM

President Obama - Time is about as far-left democrat as they come. Very biased and not politically neutral. Obama, on all measures of debt, deficit, unemployment, welfare, etc. is a complete failure. Except in the eyes of the entitled lazies and the liberal media.

-- Posted by Dug on Mon, Dec 31, 2012, at 9:26 AM

Editorial response - this newspaper does an extremely fair job of reporting for us and many of the editorials are spot on.

The "housing crisis/bubble" and collapse that destroyed the economy for the past 4 years was because of democrats demands that banks give loans to people with nearly no money down and unable to pay their loans.

It was your democrat legislators that caused the "financial crisis" by forcing business to deal with food-stamp mortgages. You voted for them, you own the crisis.

Get educated.

-- Posted by Dug on Mon, Dec 31, 2012, at 9:29 AM

With a crime rate of 72 per 1,000 residents, Cape has one of the highest crime rates in Am. compared to all communities of all sizes - from the smallest towns to the very largest cities. One's chance of becoming a victim of either violent or property crime here is 1 in 14. Within MO., more than 96% of the communities have a lower crime rate than Cape.

Separately, it's always important to compare a city's crime rate with those of similarly sized communities - a fair comparison as larger cities tend to have more crime. NeighborhoodScout has done just that. With a population of 38,402, Cape G has a combined rate of violent/property crime that is very high compared to other places of similar population size. Regardless of whether Cape does well or poorly compared to all other towns in the US of all sizes, compared to places with a similar population, it fares BADLY. Few other communities of this size have a crime rate as high as Cape.

The crime data that NeighborhoodScout used for this analysis are the 7 offenses from the uniform crime reports, collected by the FBI from 17,000 local law enforcement agencies.

Cape's violent crime rate is one of the HIGHEST in the NATION. Violent offenses: forcible rape, murder and non-negligent manslaughter, armed robbery, and aggravated assault, including assault with a deadly weapon. Your chance of becoming a victim of a VIOLENT crime in Cape: is 1 in 151.

NeighborhoodScout found Cape to have a lot of property crime (burglary, larceny, motor vehicle theft, and arson). Your chance of becoming a victim of a property crime in Cape: 1 in 15.

Private citizens should have the right to protect themselves by any means possible. Need more police and better judges.

-- Posted by commonsenz on Mon, Dec 31, 2012, at 9:45 AM

Some very wise quotes.

Happy New Year

In my many years I have come to a conclusion that one useless man is a shame, two is a law firm and three or more is a congress.

- John Adams

If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed, if you do read the newspaper you are misinformed.

- Mark Twain

I contend that for a nation to try to tax itself into prosperity is like a man standing in a bucket and trying to lift himself up by the handle.

- Winston Churchill

A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul.

- George Bernard Shaw

A socialist is someone who feels a great debt to his fellow man, which debt he proposes to pay off with your money.

- G. Gordon Liddy

Foreign aid might be defined as a transfer of money from poor people in rich countries to rich people in poor countries.

- Douglas Casey, Classmate of Bill Clinton at Georgetown University

Government is the great fiction, through which everybody endeavours to live at the expense of everybody else.

- Frederic Bastiat, French economist(1801-1850)

If you think health care is expensive now, wait until you see what it costs when it's free!

- P.J. O'Rourke

In general, the art of government consists of taking as much money as possible from one party of the citizens to give to the other.

- Voltaire (1764)

Just because you do not take an interest in politics doesn't mean politics won't take an interest in you!

- Pericles (430 B.C.)

The government is like a baby's alimentary canal, with a happy appetite at one end and no responsibility at the other.

- Ronald Reagan

The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of the blessings. The inherent blessing of socialism is the equal sharing of misery.

- Winston Churchill

The only difference between a tax man and a taxidermist is that the taxidermist leaves the skin.

- Mark Twain

The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools.

- Herbert Spencer, English Philosopher (1820-1903)

A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have.

- Thomas Jefferson

We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office.

- Aesop

Peas in the cast-iron pot. Parachute packed for the cliff jump.


-- Posted by dab1969 on Mon, Dec 31, 2012, at 12:08 PM

.rick-if the question is "in(to)" the woods, only halfway.

-- Posted by dab1969 on Mon, Dec 31, 2012, at 12:17 PM

Wheel don't for get the turnips and greens it is going to be a hard and long winter I'm afraid. HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL

-- Posted by swampeastmissouri on Mon, Dec 31, 2012, at 1:53 PM

Jeez, a little testy... I moved here from Austin, Denver & lastly L.A.. Just sayin', for a sweet-small town mentality, I was SHOCKED to find Cape surpasses these cities in crime & rivals these bigger cities. Neighborhoodscout lists same crimes for Detroit is 1/46 and 1/16; Chicago, 1/97 and 1/23.

People should be able to protect themselves by any means possible. Cape needs more police and stricter judges.

-- Posted by commonsenz on Mon, Dec 31, 2012, at 2:04 PM

Wheels wait until this huge tab comes due, first it was 99 weeks which ran for 3.0 years and now it is down to 72 weeks. Pretty long vacation while they work side jobs for cash money and collect from employers all at the same time. Washington don't have a clue what is going on out here it is all about the next election and how many votes they can get.

-- Posted by swampeastmissouri on Mon, Dec 31, 2012, at 3:02 PM

Dang, my survival pack contained nothing more than a bunch of 'As Seen on TV' airbags.

-- Posted by fxpwt on Mon, Dec 31, 2012, at 7:42 PM

Geez, .Rick, and here I was thinking the main hazard on the roads after sunset tonite was because of the participants in 'Amateur Night'. :-)~

-- Posted by fxpwt on Mon, Dec 31, 2012, at 7:50 PM


NeighborhoodScout is a real estate site designed to encourage people to buy the most expensive house in the fanciest neighborhood that the agent can talk them into. It is NOT a reliable source for crime statistics.

-- Posted by Data48 on Tue, Jan 1, 2013, at 8:52 AM

Keep an eye out. Yours should arrive soon

-- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Mon, Dec 31, 2012, at 7:17 PM

Wheels: My Fiscal Cliff Survival Pack from the White House never came, what will I do, what will I do......

-- Posted by semo471 on Tue, Jan 1, 2013, at 8:53 AM

-- Posted by Data48 on Tue, Jan 1, 2013, at 8:52 AM

commonsenz: I checked this out also and it's a real estate resources for those considering buying a home and you know how reliable salespeople are. "Commonsenz" comments shot down in flames.

-- Posted by semo471 on Tue, Jan 1, 2013, at 8:58 AM

commonsenz: To compare Cape Girardeau to Detroit in crime rate I don't know where you got your stats from. I was in Detroit last year it is an all out war zone, northside of St Louis as well and Kansas City is no better. Cape Girardeau compared to these cities is no doubt a Mayberry. You also need to visit south central LA.

-- Posted by swampeastmissouri on Tue, Jan 1, 2013, at 9:45 AM

The NRA and the Republicans have accomplished a lot. Most people in North St Louis have their weapons and assault weapons.

-- Posted by jayrod on Tue, Jan 1, 2013, at 1:14 PM

The scent of revolution is beginning to waaff through the air.

Interesting, in 1788 summer in France there didn't seem to be a cloud in the sky. In 1789 the French Revolution began. Wasn't long before the guillotine began its grizzly work.

Don't think for a minute it can't or won't happen here.

We've had two revolutions in this country (from England and Southern secession) in case you think its not likely.

-- Posted by voyager on Tue, Jan 1, 2013, at 3:45 PM

Still testy....never seen people so vehemently opposed to raising the awareness of citizens in the community. I lived in Los Angeles (during the big earthquake/looting & Rodney King riots....I saw, first-hand people defending their property w guns and the police were grateful for the help). I've been home during a violent home invasion and survived. I'm simply saying I was shocked to find the crime rate in Cape doesn't have all that great a track record r/t crime (& Neighborhoodscout wasn't the only source; just the most concise). I'm raising 3 boys here & they're thriving wonderfully, no moving plans. I'm shocked at your denial Cape could benefit from a more well-funded police department or stricter laws & judicial rulings. People have the right to protect themselves or if they choose, to rely on an under-funded police department to get to them 'in time'.

Here's a more focused/reliable source:


-- Posted by commonsenz on Tue, Jan 1, 2013, at 4:05 PM

Apologies, couldn't find the original article that provided statistics, which incidentally, closely resembled those of NHS (listed source: FBI). But here's another, that has the same gist. http://www.americantowns.com/mo/capegira...

Wishing everyone a Happy Healthy Prosperous and Safe 2013!!

-- Posted by commonsenz on Tue, Jan 1, 2013, at 4:19 PM


-- Posted by commonsenz on Tue, Jan 1, 2013, at 4:50 PM

You ask for more sources, which I supplied. I have no favorite websites; it was only after the tragedy in CT that I even wondered about Cape's profile. I was in SHOCK when I saw the #'s...and a little saddened.

I've had Personal experience w violent crime, I'm more than qualified to express my opinion & to enlighten people on their community....commend those who research to confirm or disprove.

But if their actions include adding a lock, additional home lighting, adopting a dog, starting a neighborhood watch, or refusing to be a patron of a business that knowingly hires sex offenders...& it saves one person from encountering bad intentions of another, then my raising awareness was successful. I've done all of the above, & hopefully it will increase my odds of not being a victim. I moved here from larger, what I assumed were more dangerous cities, as I was under the illusion Cape was like Mayberry....as I'm sure a lot of people are. I was shocked to see statistics suggesting otherwise...as I'm sure a lot of people will be. My intent was not to disparage Cape, but people should be aware of their city stats (schools, services, cost of living, industry, water quality, pollution, unemployment, taxes, sex & racial ratios, etc etc). Maybe you're on the Chamber of Commerce Board wanting to paint Cape as the city of roses & deny it has the same big problems as the big cities.

-- Posted by commonsenz on Tue, Jan 1, 2013, at 5:46 PM

Not sure what to make of the links provided, other than a question of 'it looks bad, but compared to what?'.

The sex offender link doesn't offer an equitable comparison.

The http://www.americantowns.com/mo/capegira... index shows an index heavily impacted by property crime and larceny - but have to question the sensitivity of the index - that is, how much does one incident affect the number? Taking it to an extreme, would one incident place Cape below average, but two incidents put Cape above the average?

The http://capegirardeau.areaconnect.com/cri... link shows data from 2006 - that's coming up on a half-a-generation old data, plus when larger cities such as St. Louis, New York City, Detroit, and Los Angeles are plugged in for comparision - Cape still shows up favorably, albeit in some categories, not as much as expected.

Yes, unfortunately, the Cape area is not immune to crime. Steps taken here are outdoor motion-detection lighting and a home surveillance system that can be viewed remotely over the Internet and recorded with the realization that any perps may not be caught red-handed, but with the hope that enough information will be recorded and preserved so that the perps will be caught.

Local crime stats uncomfortably too high, OK. Higher than national averages - suggest subject to argument.

-- Posted by fxpwt on Tue, Jan 1, 2013, at 7:41 PM

Commonsenz, just give up on here. If you aren't part of the usual crowd posting you will continue to get grief. There is NOTHING wrong with being aware that Cape is NOT Mayberry and taking steps to protect yourself.

-- Posted by ssnkemp on Wed, Jan 2, 2013, at 6:31 AM

When regurgitating your input (Detroit, Chicago, Mayberry), you complain. When citing additional sources, you complain. You keep comparing Cape to larger areas with different populations (N. St. L).... why won't compare similar towns (as I thought I was doing w Newtown, CT)?

Repeating, I in no way intended harm to the reputation of Cape. Repeating, I was shocked/disappointed when happened upon the stats. Simply opening the discussion/awareness on the possible illusion that Cape has small-town crime rates. Please, put some umph behind your words, provide your sources for current/unbiased stats; I'd be thrilled to be legitimately disproved!! Repeating, using reasonable common sense will increase ones odds (whether at home, in a car, on a plane, eating food, taking medication, avoiding cracks, walking under ladders, breaking mirrors or seeing a black cat cross the way....am I going way overboard? Well, you'd recognize it for sure.

-- Posted by commonsenz on Wed, Jan 2, 2013, at 6:48 AM


-- Posted by commonsenz on Wed, Jan 2, 2013, at 6:50 AM

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