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Speak Out 7/16/12

Monday, July 16, 2012

Arrow flight

Regarding the Speak Out comment in Tuesday's edition about the deer ordinance, I have bow hunted for about 45 years. I have taken many deer. I have never seen a deer fly. In a hunting situation, why would anyone shoot an arrow high into the air to maximize the distance the arrow travels? So why are you concerned about the maximum distance of arrow flight?

Themis gate

Most evenings I enjoy walking down to the mighty Mississippi. However, as I walk to the Themis gate, many times there is about two inches of water blocking my exit. Boots are necessary to complete the excursion. Could someone in city engineering or street department check this out?

Bad example

The Fourth of July was a fun day and should have been a fun night as well. But once again my neighbors had to ruin it. Their kids were shooting off bottle rockets, which I believe were not supposed to be sold at all. The kids were shooting them at houses, at cars, at people walking past, at one another, everywhere. Yes, the police showed up and the kids ran. The father spoke to the police and we heard him say he would "handle it." Later on this same father and a male friend were shooting off the bottle rockets. They, too, were shooting them everywhere. Today my yard and driveway are littered with debris. It will no doubt lie there for all to see and deal with for days. Too bad for our neighborhood that these people have no respect for the law, their neighbors or their neighborhood.

Presidential donors

Mitt Romney has raised more money than Barack Obama. No doubt since the 1 percent is backing the Republicans to keep their tax cuts. However, a lot of what Obama is raising comes from the middle class, of which more people would be donating than just the handful of the rich. It is a shame that all the money the Republicans are spending on the election could go a long way in helping the people that need help instead of trying to get people to believe the lies that they are spreading. Bush is the one that brought our country down and they won't admit that. They keep trying to pass all the blame on Obama and the Democrats and not on the do-nothing Republican congress. The election will tell where the people stand and I am sure it won't be with the 1 percent.

Political priorities

The Missouri "pro-life" politicians are so concerned that a taxpayer dollar might accidentally be used to destroy a microscopic fertilized egg or an embryo the size of a pinhead. They don't seem so concerned about living, breathing children; instead they want to refuse the Medicaid expansion of the Affordable Care Act and thus block federal tax dollars from coming into Missouri to provide health care for poor, innocent children.

Lagoon wasteland

I went for a walk at Capaha Park this weekend and was appalled at the condition of the lagoon. There are not enough adjectives to describe the horrid wasteland it has become. The algae and trash floating in it makes one sick. A few days ago there was a photo in this paper showing workers spreading herbicide to kill the algae. In September there was almost the same photo of the same thing. In that story the mayor stated that there was a plan to "do something, probably by the middle of next year." This is the middle of next year. The city got a tax increase, hired two consulting firms, spreads thousands of dollars of chemicals a year and nothing gets done. The waterfowl population there is overcrowded and not healthy. Before the council considers some of the projects proposed earlier this year like dog parks, aquariums and museums, fix what we already have.

Tax cut

It makes me sick to my stomach to hear of those making more than $250,000 a year complaining about losing a tax cut. Poor things. The sad part is many say they don't need it, but they will take it.


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Lagoon wasteland: Agree, the city needs to either get rid of the algae or drain it and start all over. The park is one of the points of interest of Cape.

On our tax returns, the IRS ask if you want $3 to go to the presidential election campaign, use that money to fund the campaigns and leave the lobbyist and big money donors out of the election.

-- Posted by semo471 on Mon, Jul 16, 2012, at 7:12 AM

Presidential donors - More uninformed democrat voters. First, Obama raised FAR more Wall Street money than anyone in history. I don't care what Romney does with his money, apparently you don't care what Obama does with our money. Totally backwards.

Tax cut - The Obama tax cuts (signed by him last year) will expire on Dec 31st. You liberal democrats won't be happy until your envy is satisfied and you've got more money stolen out of more pockets. Why can't you just be happy with yourself and what you've actually EARNED instead of given to you? Don't have a job - get one. Don't like your job - change. Don't like working for "the man" - start you're own business. Don't have the brains or guts to do any of those - quit whining.

-- Posted by Dug on Mon, Jul 16, 2012, at 8:38 AM

Well said Dug

-- Posted by swampeastmissouri on Mon, Jul 16, 2012, at 9:26 AM

Barack Obama is being reported to be worth over 10 million dollars. Not bad for a kid that didn't have anything a few years ago and never having to work for anything in his life. I would like to see where his money came from. He is for taking from the rich and giving to the poor, he should give at least half of his money to the poor.

-- Posted by grandpa3 on Mon, Jul 16, 2012, at 9:39 AM

One more for the "Presidential Donor" comment.

Claire McCaskill is far richer than most of the GOP candidates running against her. She has a very expensive private plane, has directed taxpayer money to her businesses (voted on it) and raises millions from rich donors.

By your comments it sounds like you are disgusted with her. I'm glad to hear you'll be voting for her opponent in November. Because apparently all you care about is how much money they raise - not how they spend your money. Interesting.

-- Posted by Dug on Mon, Jul 16, 2012, at 9:52 AM

If you really want to know what Obama stands for and what he believes then copy and paste the link below in your browser and watch the video of Obama speaking. He admits to being a Muslim. http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=tCA...

-- Posted by grandpa3 on Mon, Jul 16, 2012, at 9:55 AM

Obama often tries to quote Abe Lincoln

WHY DOESN'T OBAMA USE THIS FAMOUS LINCOLN QUOTE:

You cannot help the poor by destroying the rich.

You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong.

You cannot bring about prosperity by discouraging thrift.

You cannot lift the wage earner up by pulling the wage payer down.

You cannot further the brotherhood of man by inciting class hatred.

You cannot build character and courage by taking away people's initiative and independence.

You cannot help people permanently by doing for them, what they could and should do for themselves.

... Abraham Lincoln

-- Posted by grandpa3 on Mon, Jul 16, 2012, at 10:09 AM

-- Posted by grandpa3 on Mon, Jul 16, 2012, at 10:09 AM

Wow. Thanks for those useful quotes. Good question - why doesn't Obama use those?

-- Posted by Dug on Mon, Jul 16, 2012, at 10:19 AM

I remember what George Bush and the Republicans done to my money, I only had about two thirds of it left when they left office.

-- Posted by jayrod on Mon, Jul 16, 2012, at 10:32 AM

-- Posted by jayrod on Mon, Jul 16, 2012, at 10:32 AM

Then you've got even less now - by far. How much is milk costing you? A gallon of gas? 20 tax increases in Obamacare?

Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid hurt my money with some of the blame to Bush who agreed with liberal democrats like yourself. You've only yourself to blame.

-- Posted by Dug on Mon, Jul 16, 2012, at 10:35 AM

The rich provided me a job, and hundreds like me, building their nice homes in Beverly Hills and Malibu. If they didn't have to pay so much taxes, perhaps they would have provided hundreds more jobs.

Be jealous if you will, but never envy the rich.

-- Posted by BCStoned on Mon, Jul 16, 2012, at 10:49 AM

Barack Obama is being reported to be worth over 10 million dollars. Not bad for a kid that didn't have anything a few years ago and never having to work for anything in his life. I would like to see where his money came from.

-- Posted by grandpa3 on Mon, Jul 16, 2012, at 9:39 AM

So President Obama is not allowed to live the American dream? And he's never had to work for anything? Wow grandpa3, you sound jealous. You chose your path and President Obama worked to accomplish his American dream. He sounds like a smart, successful guy to me. If he was Republican, you'd give him a pat instead of a slam.

-- Posted by Username1 on Mon, Jul 16, 2012, at 10:50 AM

There is no difference between Democrats and Republicans. No need to blame either if you're not willing to blame both. Talk is cheap, it took both to get us to this point.

-- Posted by BCStoned on Mon, Jul 16, 2012, at 10:52 AM

Yep - BCStoned

-- Posted by Username1 on Mon, Jul 16, 2012, at 10:55 AM

Grandpa3: Thanks for sharing the Abe Lincoln words of wisdom. All politicians should used those words as how to serve the public.

Using class warfare to get votes is a bad reflection of the person using it. Tax cuts should be the same rich or poor, why would a person strive to get ahead to have someone help themselves to your rewards.

-- Posted by semo471 on Mon, Jul 16, 2012, at 10:57 AM

There is no difference between Democrats and Republicans. -- Posted by BCStoned on Mon, Jul 16, 2012, at 10:52 AM

Historically I guess you can say about anything about all parties - whigs, tories, republicans, democrats and libertarians. They are all in the political discourse (or have been) and the country is in the shape it's in.

My contention - based on the facts - is that the spending between today's democrats and republicans couldn't be farther apart. I've posted this a dozen times and will do it again:

The last 7 years when democrats controlled BOTH houses of congress (house and senate) deficits averaged around $800 BILLION.

The last 7 years when republicans controlled BOTH houses of congress (house and senate) deficits averaged around $100 BILLION.

Yes, they both run deficits. No comparison however on the magnitude. Under the last 4 years of Bush deficits were on a *major* decline headed to surplus. Until Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid got in office.

They are not the same - there IS a difference.

-- Posted by Dug on Mon, Jul 16, 2012, at 11:15 AM

Yeah, or the Koch brothers. :)

-- Posted by Username1 on Mon, Jul 16, 2012, at 11:16 AM

There is no difference between Democrats and Republicans. Neither are conservative, but liberal with other people's money.

-- Posted by BCStoned on Mon, Jul 16, 2012, at 11:27 AM

Dug, my contention - based on the facts of your own posts, is that you have a bias spot when it come to the Republicans. And yes I know, you'll say it again as you have a dozen times before. I think we've all noticed that to you Republicans = good and Democrate = evil. Everybody just doesn't agree with you. Kinda bits that you're so smart we're all too dumb to see, doesn't it.

-- Posted by Username1 on Mon, Jul 16, 2012, at 11:30 AM

shoot - that should be bites not bits.

-- Posted by Username1 on Mon, Jul 16, 2012, at 11:33 AM

Here, try these links, grandpa3: http://www.snopes.com/quotes/lincoln/pro...

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/mus...

-- Posted by commenter on Mon, Jul 16, 2012, at 1:23 PM

commenter: Thanks for posting that Lincoln quotes. I had wondered about it.

As for the "Muslim" faith one, I know he has professed to Christianity but he really doesn't walk the walk he talks. Ever watched a "Christian" that lived their life just like everyone else? People will always question the validity of those words.

I had to laugh while reading the "Presidental donors" remarks. Considering how many fund raisers were held in Hollywood or with those elites, I guess they must be considered 'middle class.' I personally think campaigning is a big waste. While they find it important to spend all this money to win the race, the economy is in the tank and people are out of work. And worse, I don't hear anything about HOW they are going to really help the 'middle class.' Instead, all I hear is a 'he said, she said' campaign or worse the belitting of others. If you really want to hear that, go to a get together and listen around, I'm sure you'll find a group that loves putting everyone down.

-- Posted by LiveAnotherDay on Mon, Jul 16, 2012, at 2:03 PM

Dug, my contention - based on the facts of your own posts, is that you have a bias spot when it come to the Republicans. -- Posted by username1 on Mon, Jul 16, 2012, at 11:30 AM

No need to contend - we can agree 100% on that. I don't care about party, but I do care when one party runs up $800 billion in debt PER YEAR when they are in charge and the other party runs up less than $100 billion PER YEAR when they are in charge - all over the last 7 years they controlled congress - both chambers.

Can I contend that you don't care about deficits and spending based on your post? Or are we in agreement on that?

-- Posted by Dug on Mon, Jul 16, 2012, at 2:25 PM

Dug: Definitely not sticking up for Democrat Congresses, but debt climbed $470 billion a year during a time when Bush had a Republican Congress.

The prescription drug bill and the wars plus doubling the cost of the Department of Education had a lot to do with the deficits.

The cost of the prescription drug bill like medicare is going through the roof. The wars in Iraq and Afghanistan are the costliest wars since WWII, and those costs are continuing.

The US dropped more tonnage of bombs in Vietnam than in WWII, lost more that 1400 planes, more than 5000 helicopters, nearly a million men injured, but its cost is no where near the cost of the present wars. The present wars may run as much as $4 trillion when all is said and done.

The US taxpayers are still paying for the Vietnam War through lost production and lifetime injuries.

The prescription drug bill may end up costing more than SS. In about 60 to 80 years you might know the cost of Afghanistan and Iraq and those costs are rising.

-- Posted by BCStoned on Mon, Jul 16, 2012, at 5:38 PM

BCStoned: I doubt we will still be functioning 60-80 years from now at the direction and pace were going now.

-- Posted by swampeastmissouri on Mon, Jul 16, 2012, at 8:48 PM


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