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Tuesday, September 13, 2011

Pohlman column

MIA Pohlman, I really liked your article recently, "Being molded by clay, how beautiful." How beautiful. I really liked your imagery of the drying seasons in our lives. Keep up the good work and many blessings to you.

Well wishes

MY wife and I graduated from Central High School back in the late '60s and our children went to Jackson schools. Now our precious grandchildren are in sports at Jackson schools. Both of us wish Central High School and its fans all the best with their new stadium.

Respected mascot

As a Native American and an alumnus, I am offended that Southeast Missouri State University changed its mascot. I would be doubly offended if Jackson High School changed its mascot. I see nothing wrong with the Indian as a respected mascot.

Farmers market

THE Saturday morning farmers market is held at the First Presbyterian Church in Jackson. It's not hard to find; it's on the parking lot. Sometimes it's held in the basement, but it's there. It is at 206 E. Washington St.

School taxes

I better not see an increase in my school tax this year. The school could spend $2.8 million on a football field, yet they can't give the school teachers a raise. They can't take care of the items that need to be taken care of to give students an education, but they can spend that kind of money on sports. It's beyond ridiculous. I think something needs to be done. Don't raise my school taxes.

Anti-war activists

I'D like to know where all those war protesters have been for the last two-and-half, almost three years now that this is a Democrat war. The anti-war songs that were so common when we had a Republican president, I can't seem to find any of them out these days.

Jackson Indians

I also have Native American blood in my veins. I have no problem with Jackson schools calling their sports teams the Indians. It reminds people who was here first.

End the war

THE way our country is so deep in debt, we need the money for the east coast to help all those people out there. Why don't these people in Washington stop the war and pull the troops out of Iraq and Afghanistan and save that money to rebuild our country? It's something I can't figure out. This is not right.


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Anti-war activists;

They're still out there, the media just doesn't cover them anymore because it doesn't fit their reporting template. In other words, President Obama is in office and all is right with the world!

-- Posted by Data48 on Tue, Sep 13, 2011, at 5:38 AM

Data48: What I seen on the republican stage from last night in the debates I don't think we would be any better off. I have never seen the republican party in such a mess as it is right now, they have no leader.

-- Posted by swampeastmissouri on Tue, Sep 13, 2011, at 6:23 AM

Congratulations to Jackson's school band! They were the sharpest looking and best sounding in Cape's Fair parade Monday. If you have not had the opportunity to have seen them, do yourself a huge favor and see a performance of one of the finest bands ever!

-- Posted by cloud watcher on Tue, Sep 13, 2011, at 9:42 AM

Data48 is right. Obama is in office and all is right with the world as per news media! How much does he pay them? AND, Rick, I think you're funny & cool!!

-- Posted by America First on Tue, Sep 13, 2011, at 12:17 PM

America First;

It's a simply clear illustration of the media bias that exists these days. When President Bush was in office any time Cindy Sheehan broke wind it was front page news. She's still protesting but now she couldn't get a byline on page eighteen if she committed murder!

-- Posted by Data48 on Tue, Sep 13, 2011, at 1:09 PM

And how about gas prices? During the Bush administration every time gas went up a penny the press had a collective cow and printed blaring headlines about Bush and his "oil cronies" getting rich. Gas has been higher under President Obama than it ever was under Bush and not only do we not get the same headlines I've seen some stories suggesting that high gas prices are actually a good thing!

-- Posted by Data48 on Tue, Sep 13, 2011, at 1:18 PM

Watched most of the great debate last night and while being an Indepentent I can only say if that's the best of the Republicans, God help us.

-- Posted by semo471 on Tue, Sep 13, 2011, at 2:31 PM

How does throwing more money at schools improve the graduation rate?

-- Posted by FreedomFadingFast on Tue, Sep 13, 2011, at 3:34 PM

SCHOOL TAXES

They can't take care of the items that need to be taken care of to give students an education, but they can spend that kind of money on sports

Got it from there. Schools in this area have everything they need to provide a quality education. It's up to the student to take advantage of it. And I would also go out on a limb and say that a higher percentage of high school varsity athletes graduate than non varsity athletes. Even more so with African-American athletes vs African-American non athletes. Same goes for those that participate in band, debate, student council, history club, choir, etc, etc. Extracurricular activities are far from fluff. They are an important motivator and educational tool for students.

-- Posted by FreedomFadingFast on Tue, Sep 13, 2011, at 4:38 PM

From "Recruiting Manufacturing Firms as a Community Development Strategy" - http://www.ces.purdue.edu/extmedia/EC/EC...

Table 2. Community Location Factors

A. Agglomeration factors

___population

___population density

___commercial employment

___number of manufacturing plants

___distance to SMSA

___industrial site attributes

B. Labor quality/cost/availability

___labor force size

___unemployment rate

___wage rate

___percent of adult population with high school diploma

___labor productivity

___distance to vocational school

___distance to four year college

C. Transportation facilities

___interstate highway access

___distance to airport

D. Site facilities and services

___site quality

___public site ownership

___site price

___sewer capacity

___zoning

___location incentives

___funded development group

E. Taxes

___property tax rate

___freeport

F. Access to Capital

___bank assets

___bond financing

G.Public services

___per pupil school expenditures

___high school math achievement test score

___fire protection rating

Got to noticing how many times education-related items popped up on the list - percentage of adult population with a high school diploma, distance to vocational school, distance to four-year college, property tax rate, per-pupil school expenditures, high school math achievement test score.

Suggest bright-n-shiny school facilities will have a tough time overshadowing an undesireable cumulative end product - the graduation rate.

Eh, or maybe additional employment opportunities are not where we want to go today... :-)~

-- Posted by fxpwt on Tue, Sep 13, 2011, at 5:24 PM

Bright and shiny school facilities adversely affects the graduation rate how?

-- Posted by FreedomFadingFast on Tue, Sep 13, 2011, at 6:13 PM

As an extreme example - don't matter how glossy the paint job, fancy the wheels, or loud the stereo - when they're on a Yugo.

-- Posted by fxpwt on Tue, Sep 13, 2011, at 6:28 PM

Key is prioritize, scale down to the basic necessities.

I agree. In with Reading, Writing, Mathematics, Science, History, Economics, PE. Out with African American studies, Womens studies, Cultural studies, Diversity studies, Home Ec, Heather Has Two Mommies, Condom Application 101, Teens raising babies 201. Fire the teachers for these classes along with half the administration and savings in salaries/benefits, classroom materials/equipment leaves plenty of money for remaining teacher raises, extracurricular activities, and shiny new facilities.

There, ya mean @ss woman picking on the wounded. :-)~

-- Posted by FreedomFadingFast on Tue, Sep 13, 2011, at 7:18 PM

i want to see a Democrat Debate...have you heard when the next one will be ?

-- Posted by Rick ** on Tue, Sep 13, 2011, at 2:44 PM

Rick: The next Democrat debate is when the Obama's decise whose turn it is to take out the trash.

-- Posted by semo471 on Tue, Sep 13, 2011, at 7:23 PM

Gas has been higher under President Obama than it ever was under Bush and not only do we not get the same headlines I've seen some stories suggesting that high gas prices are actually a good thing!

-- Posted by Data48 on Tue, Sep 13, 2011, at 1:18 PM

Data48: I had gas while Bush the second was president and I get gas every once in awhile since Obama has been president.

What's more important, sports programs that impact a small percentage of students or teacher salaries and textbooks that affect ALL students?

Posted by Me'Lange on Tue, Sep 13, 2011, at 6:37 PM

Fire the teachers for these classes along with half the administration and savings in salaries/benefits, classroom materials/equipment leaves plenty of money for remaining teacher raises, extracurricular activities, and shiny new facilities.

Posted by DTower on Tue, Sep 13, 2011, at 7:18 PM

Me'Lange & DTower: Agree with you both, schools are for the teaching of the basics that are needed to survive in this world. If a person wants sports go to football, baseball camps and do the pay as you go route. Keep my school tax money where its needed the most.

Anti-war activists: They are like dust in the wind.

-- Posted by semo471 on Tue, Sep 13, 2011, at 8:40 PM

semo,

While we're getting rid of sports, let's also get rid of debate, chior, band, all clubs, yearbook staff, school newspaper, student gov't, FFA, FBLA, cheerleading, pom pom squad, dance squad, twirlers, school dances, prom, etc, etc.

Let's make school as unappealing and boring as possible for the kids. Just because they'll have all of their adult lives to work, doesn't mean they should enjoy being kids and doing kid things while they're young. Funny how for decades upon decades, US public schools had all of these activities while producing the most highly educated people in the world, but over the past decade or so the only answer to today's poorly performing public schools is "cut the extracurriculars". Funny how the demise of the public schools coincides with the ever increasing involvement of the federal gov't. P!ss on the local control of schools that has worked since the beginning of this country.

-- Posted by FreedomFadingFast on Tue, Sep 13, 2011, at 9:03 PM

Taking out the trash will be our job come Nov 2012,

-- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Tue, Sep 13, 2011, at 8:41 PM

Wheels: The trash collector comes every 4 years....hopefully the landfill has plenty of room.

-- Posted by semo471 on Tue, Sep 13, 2011, at 9:08 PM

While we're getting rid of sports, let's also get rid of debate, chior, band, all clubs, yearbook staff, school newspaper, student gov't, FFA, FBLA, cheerleading, pom pom squad, dance squad, twirlers, school dances, prom, etc, etc.

Posted by DTower on Tue, Sep 13, 2011, at 9:03 PM

DTower: If they want the extras, let them pay for it. Plain and simple, sorry but that's how I feel.

-- Posted by semo471 on Tue, Sep 13, 2011, at 9:14 PM

Most people do not want to eliminate sports, but I (like many other) believe that they spent way too much on a football field.

-- Posted by CNN_MAN on Tue, Sep 13, 2011, at 9:31 PM

DTower: If they want the extras, let them pay for it. Plain and simple, sorry but that's how I feel.

They do pay for it. Taxes. And that's how I feel.

-- Posted by FreedomFadingFast on Tue, Sep 13, 2011, at 9:49 PM

DTower: We are at a Mexican standoff and I'll leave it at that. Have a good evening.

-- Posted by semo471 on Tue, Sep 13, 2011, at 10:01 PM

Rick appears to be more intelligent than he let's on. Well said sir.

-- Posted by FreedomFadingFast on Tue, Sep 13, 2011, at 10:18 PM

it all comes down to money ???

money comes before our children ??

...sad , very sad..

Posted by Rick ** on Tue, Sep 13, 2011, at 10:10 PM

Rick: I fear to think of what changes will come about due to the cuts in spending locally, state, and federal. Don't think the people in power will have our best interests in mind.

-- Posted by semo471 on Tue, Sep 13, 2011, at 10:26 PM

Taxes are a LIMITED resource. Public education should be focused on EDUCATION, especially with the plummetting academics results.

Agreed. My point is schools have always had extracurriculars and we had the most highly educated people in the world. What has changed that now all of a sudden, schools can't handle extracurriculars? What has changed causing plummetting academic results? And no, it's not the extracurriculars causing the drop in academics.

Yes, I was literal. 7 fun filled days and nights at Club St Francis. Still recouping.

-- Posted by FreedomFadingFast on Wed, Sep 14, 2011, at 9:17 AM

Well at least your not just picking on sports.

My Harley and I got in a fight with a curve in the road July 4. We lost. Harley DOA, DTower bruised and collapsed lungs and 14 breaks/fractures (ribs, sternum, back). Getting better.

-- Posted by FreedomFadingFast on Wed, Sep 14, 2011, at 1:14 PM


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