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Speak Out 8/31/11

Wednesday, August 31, 2011

Thank you

OUR first visit to the Starbucks off William Street was great and we enjoyed ourselves tremendously, but before reaching home we found that my wife had left her purse. We rushed back to the store, but the store personnel had already found the purse and put it up for safekeeping. Many thanks to the friendly and honest folks at Starbucks.

Beautiful flowers

THE flowers in front of Cape Girardeau Central Junior High on Carruthers Drive are gorgeous. They have school pride written all over them. Stop by and see them sometime.

Music over fussing

FOR those of you that complain about loud music, I'd rather hear loud music anytime than your cussing, fussing and fighting.

Obama stimulus plan

PLEASE tell me there's not going to be another Obama stimulus plan. How much further in debt can we go with this one-term president?

GOP agenda

IF Republicans kill off President Obama's sensible call for the extension of the payroll tax, their true colors will be exposed. It will then be crystal clear to every informed voter that the singular agenda of the GOP is to get President Obama out of office, even if it means additional economic woes for the middle and working class.

No new Texans

READ my lips: No new Texans.

I-66 study

I can't imagine the need to spend $3.6 million to study either the route of the Interstate 66 proposal or where it's going to connect to. To spend that much money, I don't care if it's a grant or where it came from, the federal government doesn't have it.

Tax loopholes

I'M reading in Speak Out, "pay more taxes." It's not that Warren Buffets and those people that make millions and billions of dollars aren't in a tax bracket. The problem is our politicians have put in too many loopholes to get out of paying taxes, and the politicians themselves reap the benefits from this. They can't balance the budget or keep a surplus in our federal budget, but they sure can keep a surplus in their campaign funds.

Social Security

I have been reading in Speak Out about how the government is using Social Security for things it should not have and how people that had jobs think they paid in a lot. As a self-employed person, I paid in all of my Social Security and it seems like we won't get any of it back.

Eyesore

I want to report an eyesore: the medians on Kingshighway and Route K with all the grass growing up in them. It looks awful.

Apology would be nice

TO the person who hit my mailbox on County Road 205, an acknowledgment or apology would have meant a lot.

Blame game

HOW many decades would it take for Obama to be in office before he and his liberal friends would stop blaming someone else for his failed policies?

Offensive mascot

I wish Jackson schools would change the name of their mascot from the Indians to some other thing. As a Native American, I find it derogatory and offensive. I wish they would bring that up at their board meeting and get that taken care of like the college did where they changed their mascot to Redhawks. It's offensive to us Native Americans in the area.

Rich Dems

CONCERNING the Republicans in Congress with their overpaid jobs, I will remind the caller that all members of Congress make the same. As far as the rich Republicans, I remind them that the richest person in Congress is Nancy Pelosi, and one of the other richest is Claire McCaskill. So don't tell me it's just Republicans who make a lot of money out of being in office.

Rebuilding levee

BLAKE Hurst was a wonderful spokesman for the Farm Bureau, and he's right about rebuilding the levee. You've got to rebuild the levee that you blew up with explosives back to the height it was before, 61 feet. And now compare it with the 65 feet in Cairo, Ill. But Cairo will still be more protected. The other thing is, Mr. Hurst farms in extreme northwest Missouri and they've been flooded by the Missouri River. They need some help, too, but their levee was naturally overtopped. The U.S. Army Corps of Engineers never tried blowing up the levee on purpose.

Wake-up call

THE earthquake they had is a wake-up call for us here. You all in these stores who stack that stuff high on shelves, heavy stuff, you'd better stop because it can really harm people.

Election season

YOU can tell there's an election coming up when the politicians start slinging mud in their ads on TV. I just want to give them fair warning: They better not bother me on my telephone or my answering machine, because if they do they will not get my vote.

Cardinal baseball

THIS pertains to St. Louis Cardinals baseball. I guess they're going to have to wait until next year now, because they aren't going to win this year.

Road repair funds

MORE than 500 overweight dump trucks are driving Highway 77 past Kelly High School everyday. When is the state going to get the money to fix Highway 77 after these overweight dump trucks are through?

Flag respect

WHOEVER is in charge of the American flag between New Hamburg, Mo., and Chaffee, Mo., needs to have more respect. If you don't know the rules about the flag, you need to learn them. The way the flag drags the ground is a disgrace.

RX regulation

RECENTLY in the Southeast Missourian, Dr. Gott had a person write in about prescription drugs. They don't want to clamp down on these drugs. They come from everywhere. Why doesn't the government do something? We don't even know what we're taking.

Republican recall

THERE is a need to recall all Republican members of Congress before they take our country completely down to nothing. They now want to raise taxes on the middle class and poor but not the rich. Reason: That is where they get their campaign money.

Obama's economy

I am certain there will be no improvement in the U.S. economy until Obama is out of office. In fact, how is this economy working out for you?


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They should clamp down on the the scripts they are writing out for pain killers. They are flooding the streets and have become a new way for people to make money off something they got for free from medicaid. I'm tired of seeing people die from them.

-- Posted by artofwar on Wed, Aug 31, 2011, at 1:59 AM

"No new Texans."

My new favorite joke.

-- Posted by grisgris on Wed, Aug 31, 2011, at 7:13 AM

Offensive mascot

Jackson Indians. Considering Andrew Jackson's Indian Removal Act, I can see a problem there.

-- Posted by FunkDaddy on Wed, Aug 31, 2011, at 8:03 AM

Offensive mascot...I totally agree. I have been promoting a name change to the Jackson Scalpers for years.

Now maybe we'll see some action.

-- Posted by Hawker on Wed, Aug 31, 2011, at 9:01 AM

"Serious question - are kids not allowed to bring their own lunches anymore?"

-- Posted by fxpwt on Tue, Aug 30, 2011, at 8:34 PM

fxpwt, yes, children are allowed to bring their lunch to school.

"...my Sister's Grandson a preschooler, of about 4 now I guess, is having his lunch bag from home checked and if it doesn't suit the nutrionist they will pitch it and feed the child what they think he needs.... at a cost I am sure. Oh and NO PEANUT PRODUCTS."

-- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Tue, Aug 30, 2011, at 8:56 PM

To my knowledge, they do not check their lunches around here. The peanut situation is true in preschool classes. If a child as an allergy, no peanuts allowed in the class.

Not sure how they handle that in the cafeteria, huh? Interesting.

Just on a side note, no more home baked goods, only store bought. This really burns my buns. My cupcakes taste MUCH better than the store bought. ☻ But I do understand the concern.

-- Posted by Turnip on Wed, Aug 31, 2011, at 9:49 AM

Oh, I forgot...

Apology would be nice....I have no idea where CR205 is but I didn't feel a thing. I say...it wasn't me. ☻

-- Posted by Turnip on Wed, Aug 31, 2011, at 9:52 AM

Offensive Mascot,

As a Native American and member of the Cheyenne tribe, I couldn't care less.

-- Posted by Producer1 on Wed, Aug 31, 2011, at 10:00 AM

Turnip,

You can bring overstocked cupcakes to me:)

-- Posted by Producer1 on Wed, Aug 31, 2011, at 10:03 AM

Producer, I'll keep that in mind! ☺

-- Posted by Turnip on Wed, Aug 31, 2011, at 10:34 AM

Turnip,

You can bring overstocked cupcakes to me:)

-- Posted by Producer1 on Wed, Aug 31, 2011, at 10:03 AM

Turnip: You don't have to deliver the cupcakes to me, I'll be glad to pick them up.

Offensive mascot: Who gives a rip at a sports name. More important issues to get worked up on.

No new Texans: Surely from the land of the Alamo and Sam Houston, there is somebody better then Rick Perry.

-- Posted by semo471 on Wed, Aug 31, 2011, at 11:43 AM

To the Native American who is "offended" by Jackson's Sports team name!! GET REAL! GET A LIFE!! GET OVER YOURSELF!!! Nobody cares about that sort of thing, anymore!!

-- Posted by lip service on Wed, Aug 31, 2011, at 11:56 AM

Offensive Mascot:

Some people will always find something about which to take offense. I couldn't care less what they do.

-- Posted by Acronym on Wed, Aug 31, 2011, at 1:36 PM

Peanut allergy, My wife can not kiss me without brushing her teeth well and waiting at least an hour after eating peanut butter. The alternative is turning blue, epiPen and emergency room.

I can understand the pre-school safety concerns. Little ppps slobber all over the toys and each other.

-- Posted by pigskin on Wed, Aug 31, 2011, at 2:07 PM

Mascot

Actually, most of the mascot issue stems from ignorance.

Most Native American are not offended by the name. How ever, they are affanded by the blatent ignorance displayed in respect in the mascot/logo.

For instnace, wheels mentioned it as an "honor". This is what many also think. But I can tell you the Cherokee are not "honored" by the Jackson Indians. Just like Jews would not be honored if their was a team in Geremany called the Hitler Jews.

As for the other teams, most Native Americans are not offended by the name, but by the ignorance of Native American culture by average americans. The mascots and logos help perpetuate they myth. An Example: The Figting Illini of Illinois. They are called the "Fighting Illini", their logo featured a "Cheif" wearing a head dress (actually Soux)and performed a dance that changed over the years and resembled nothing of actual Indian culture.

So the logo was dropped, the incorrect mascot is no longer used, and they dropped the word "fighting" to better reflect the peacefull and democratic trives of the area.

-- Posted by lumbrgfktr on Wed, Aug 31, 2011, at 2:33 PM

-- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Wed, Aug 31, 2011, at 1:58 PM

Yes, I like Rick too and find his posts interesting, but I would not change anything based on one or a few people's feelings; maybe not even a lot of people.

Now I would feel and act differently if the offense was intended and meant to demean someone or a group of people, but like you, I consider naming teams and positive objects a sign of respect and admiration.

We are talking about a sports team, not a sewage lagoon city trash dump or some such with negative connotations.

I understand I may catch some flack for this, but I am not at all sure that I like that any group of people should choose what they are called and expect everyone else to have to start using the term they choose. I don't care much for the term Scotch-Irish, too confusing, so I propose change to "Superior Beings of the World".

I really detest "political correctness".

Now of course there are some that are kind of a jump ball like the proposed naming of a Government Complex in Indiana.

-- Posted by Acronym on Wed, Aug 31, 2011, at 2:36 PM

As I stated earlier, I really couldn't care less about the name of a high school sports team being the same as an archaic name for my people, but I've never been much into PC. Besides, Jackson Native Americans just doesn't have the same ring to it:)

-- Posted by Producer1 on Wed, Aug 31, 2011, at 3:16 PM

-- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Wed, Aug 31, 2011, at 2:56 PM

I am actually Dutch on my mother's side in addition to Native American.

On both sides of my family the men really loved the women and the women really loved the men and even a couple of the men loved the men too, so I am an amalgam of different heritages.

-- Posted by Acronym on Wed, Aug 31, 2011, at 3:37 PM

Now of course there are some that are kind of a jump ball like the proposed naming of a Government Complex in Indiana.

-- Posted by Acronym on Wed, Aug 31, 2011, at 2:36 PM

So nobody would be offended if the 'fighting Irish' of Notre Dame used Greek Mythology as its mascot to represent the Irish. Since its all Eurpean, its all the same.

You really don't see anything wrong with having an English King being the logo?

-- Posted by lumbrgfktr on Wed, Aug 31, 2011, at 3:41 PM

-- Posted by Producer1 on Wed, Aug 31, 2011, at 3:16 PM

No. But the Jackson Volunteers does...

-- Posted by lumbrgfktr on Wed, Aug 31, 2011, at 3:45 PM

-- Posted by Shapley Hunter on Wed, Aug 31, 2011, at 3:47 PM

Lots of people.

If they announced that they are changing the leppercan for a English Monarch, people wouldn't care.

And if you really don't care, why do you bother to comment when somebody wants to change?

-- Posted by lumbrgfktr on Wed, Aug 31, 2011, at 3:54 PM

-- Posted by lumbrgfktr on Wed, Aug 31, 2011, at 3:41 PM

You can extrapolate all you want. As to the "Fighting Irish", I suppose I could care less, but right off hand I really can't imagine how.

I simply believe that many, note many, not all groups are too easily upset over imagined slights or insults and I am tired of it.

I think we as a nation are quickly becoming a bunch of cry babies and whiners if this is what we worry about.

-- Posted by Acronym on Wed, Aug 31, 2011, at 4:02 PM

The problem with having an Anglo-Saxon heritage, you are never a minority even when you are a minority. We are the root of all evil and like it. We are the fighting Diana's, choke.

-- Posted by BCStoned on Wed, Aug 31, 2011, at 4:17 PM

TAX LOOPHOLES

We should have a Flat Tax and a Fair Tax. Flat Tax: You make X amount of money and your tax bracket is Y%, then your income Tax is X * Y%

You earn $90,000 and the Tax bracket is 15% then your taxes are $13,500. My idea would have 4 platforms: If you earn $0 to $50,000 the tax bracket will be 10%-- $50,001 to $200,000 the bracket will be 15%-- $200,001 to $500,000 the bracket will be 20%, and anyone earning over $500,000 will be taxed at 25%. There would be no deductions, adjustments, or credits.

The Fair tax will be a 10% sales tax on all purchases (except Prescription Medicine). On anything you rent, i.e. a movie, a sofa, a car, a hotel room, etc.--you will paid the tax when you receive the rented item and will get it refunded when you return the rented item. This will be paid by all persons and organizations.

If some one earns $600,000 and purchases $300,000 then their taxes will be $150,000 + $30,000 or $180,000 to the Federal Government.

With this plan everyone has some skin in the game. If you save money for Retirement or College, then your Flat Tax will not be as much until you spend the money. Wealthy earners will not have any loopholes and will be paying more in taxes, then if they paid at a higher Tax Rate with thousands of dollars in loopholes.

-- Posted by CNN_MAN on Wed, Aug 31, 2011, at 4:46 PM

You can extrapolate all you want. As to the "Fighting Irish", I suppose I could care less, but right off hand I really can't imagine how.

I simply believe that many, note many, not all groups are too easily upset over imagined slights or insults and I am tired of it.

I think we as a nation are quickly becoming a bunch of cry babies and whiners if this is what we worry about.

-- Posted by Acronym on Wed, Aug 31, 2011, at 4:02 PM

I also agree that we are becoming over sensative. But that doesn't mean we should ignore those with legit claims.

-- Posted by lumbrgfktr on Wed, Aug 31, 2011, at 5:17 PM

you are clueless at best ...this post makes no sense to me from beginning to end .

do not begin to tell me about the Siuox , you are eat-up from the floor-up..

talk about ignorance !

-- Posted by Rick ** on Wed, Aug 31, 2011, at 4:12 PM

Why should I not talk to you about the Sioux? And by the way, we are discussing the Illini. I once again have to point out that not all Native American nations are the same.

But I do appreciate you posting. Your rebuttle actually 100% backs up my claim. I mentioned how the University of Illinois was incorrectly using Sioux imagery to represent the Illini, and you offer nothing but call me ignorant.

-- Posted by lumbrgfktr on Wed, Aug 31, 2011, at 5:32 PM

Because dimwit, this is an Opinion column and I have an opinion on almost everything, even if that opinion is that I don't care.

Who do you think you are to be telling me when I need to be posting or not?

-- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Wed, Aug 31, 2011, at 4:46 PM

Please, try to be an adult.

I am not telling you not post, I am pointing out that obviously have some stake in it. If you really didn't care about it, you wouldn't have an opinion on it, nor would you post about it.

-- Posted by lumbrgfktr on Wed, Aug 31, 2011, at 5:36 PM

On anything you rent, i.e. a movie, a sofa, a car, a hotel room, etc.--you will paid the tax when you receive the rented item and will get it refunded when you return the rented item. This will be paid by all persons and organizations.

Ahhhhhhh.... I believe that is what we call a deposit, why would you return a tax?

-- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Wed, Aug 31, 2011, at 4:50 PM

Good point.

i always thought there should be 2 prices listed.

1) the actuall cost of the good/service

2) The price after taxes.

When people see it up front, I think it speaks volumes.

-- Posted by lumbrgfktr on Wed, Aug 31, 2011, at 5:38 PM

Republican recall

We just now got rid of the Dems that took us down to where we are. The Reps are trying to tighten the purse strings.

-- Posted by We Regret To Inform U on Wed, Aug 31, 2011, at 6:00 PM

for one , "sioux" is a name given to the People by the early French traders who could not pronounce the understanding of the Peoples, and was carried on by the European settlers .

for two , it's insulting to say you are 100% correct on something you are clueless about .

and finally...like Wheels says , when you argue with a fool , they bring you down to their level and beat you with experience .

you are proberly way more intelligent than me in many , many things...but do not try and tell me you know more about my People's culture and history than i do ...

-- Posted by Rick ** on Wed, Aug 31, 2011, at 5:51 PM

Your points:

1) Has nothing really to do with what we are talking about. Not sure why you included it.

2) You say I am incorrect? Fine then prove it. Are you saying that I am making it up? That Illinois did not use Sioux articles to represent the Illini? How am I cluess about that?

3) Interesting how you feel the need to insult those that disagree with you, then say you are brought down to their level.

When did I try to you more about people's culture? How was that even perceived.

And if I were to take you at your word and that you are very well versed in Native American cultures, would you say that most people are the same? Do you think most americans can actually describe the cultural differences between the nations?

-- Posted by lumbrgfktr on Wed, Aug 31, 2011, at 6:07 PM

Lumber,

I have and continue to be an adult for some years now. Since we are into corrections, your postings could stand a hell of a lot of spelling and punctuation work. I am far from perfect, but ****... you set a new level.

-- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Wed, Aug 31, 2011, at 6:11

When I am typing fast, I really don't pay attention. But you are right, that was pretty bad.

-- Posted by lumbrgfktr on Wed, Aug 31, 2011, at 6:20 PM

We should have a Flat Tax and a Fair Tax. Flat Tax: You make X amount of money and your tax bracket is Y%, then your income Tax is X * Y%

Posted by CNN_MAN on Wed, Aug 31, 2011, at 4:46 PM

CNN_MAN: If you have seen my posts in the past, I'm in favor of a flat tax also. I differ from you in that the "flat tax" would start with anybody over the poverty level and be 15%. Everyone would pay their fair share. The more you make the bigger the bite the 15% takes.

The solution to the offensive mascot would be to end all mascot names....the Jackson football team (in large cities it could be St. Louis Southwest football team). How's that for all the PC fans.

-- Posted by semo471 on Wed, Aug 31, 2011, at 6:22 PM

lumbrgfktr

none of the above

your quote was how offend Native Americans were by the ignorance of Americans when you are indeed most ignorant yourself .

i don't care if you belive me or not ...i know what i speak of and you do not ..you have no idea what an "Illini" is nor a traditional Sioux headress ...fact , not fiction

continue to post your idiocracies and let your dim light shine...

-- Posted by Rick ** on Wed, Aug 31, 2011, at 6:20 PM

Your right. I was wrong. NA weren't offended. They loved the fact that U of I were so wrong in their portrayal.

They love seeing instituians of higher learning perpetuate the cultural stereotypes they are trying to teach about.

And Like I said before, no. I have no idea what a traditional headress would look like.

But again, since you seem to want to continue to argue with me, why do you care?

-- Posted by lumbrgfktr on Wed, Aug 31, 2011, at 6:25 PM

The solution to the offensive mascot would be to end all mascot names....the Jackson football team (in large cities it could be St. Louis Southwest football team). How's that for all the PC fans.

-- Posted by semo471 on Wed, Aug 31, 2011, at 6:22 PM

Totally missing the point.

-- Posted by lumbrgfktr on Wed, Aug 31, 2011, at 6:26 PM

Totally missing the point.-- Posted by lumbrgfktr on Wed, Aug 31, 2011, at 6:26 PM

lumbrgfktr: Just think about my post, you and others wouldn't be debating this issue and getting hot under the head dress if there were no mascot names.

-- Posted by semo471 on Wed, Aug 31, 2011, at 6:32 PM

Wheels: I think I proved a point about how stupid PC is. Traditions of mascot names, cities, parks....should not be changed.

-- Posted by semo471 on Wed, Aug 31, 2011, at 6:38 PM

How soon do you expect that to happen?

-- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Wed, Aug 31, 2011, at 6:38 PM

Wheels: As long as there are 2 people in the world there be will be difference in opinions. But isn't it fun.

-- Posted by semo471 on Wed, Aug 31, 2011, at 6:41 PM

Would it offend anyone if it was the Jackson Pakistanis?

-- Posted by BCStoned on Wed, Aug 31, 2011, at 7:43 PM

Jackson Countyseatians?

Cape Girardeau River-turns-tale-ians?

Cape Garagedoor-knobs?

Saint Loozers?

SEMO Simolions?

Cairo Carelessers?

Oak Ridge Maple Leafs?

Delta Triangles?

-- Posted by fxpwt on Wed, Aug 31, 2011, at 8:10 PM

Genealogy is a hobby of mine.

-- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Wed, Aug 31, 2011, at 3:40 PM

Wheels: Genealogy is also a hobby of mine. Traced family back to Germany and also have some French.

-- Posted by semo471 on Wed, Aug 31, 2011, at 8:20 PM

This show how studid the PC stuff is.

http://www.veoh.com/watch/v1911155McAqDq...

-- Posted by We Regret To Inform U on Wed, Aug 31, 2011, at 8:59 PM

The problem with ancestry is some years you find out they were wealthy and sometimes poor. I was born in a poor cycle.

-- Posted by BCStoned on Wed, Aug 31, 2011, at 9:04 PM

The next thing, we will be wanting to rename Cherokee Pass and the Trail of Tears Park. Those names mean something and I believe honor the Native American. Need to study Rick for a better term maybe.

-- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Wed, Aug 31, 2011, at

Actually, they have changed much of the stuff at Trail of Tears. All "Princess Otahki" references were dropped.

I mean who cares if the family hated it. They are jsut a vocal Minority. The majority love to be ignorant and prefer to consider the story to be true.

-- Posted by lumbrgfktr on Thu, Sep 1, 2011, at 10:55 AM


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