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Thursday, November 18, 2010

Journet is right on

I hope everyone read Alan Journet's Nov. 9 article. I agree 100 percent that our democracy is in jeopardy -- the worst it's been in history since Karl Rove, American Crossroads and Crossroads GPS funneled millions of dollars to the GOP candidates.

Smoking ban

I'M a nonsmoker who sees no reason for a citywide smoking ban. The city is essentially nonsmoking anyway. How many grocery stores, hospitals, retail outlets and office buildings are there in our city where a person can light up?

Ban alcohol

I recently read that a group in Cape Girardeau is trying to ban smoking in restaurants and other similar places. How about alcohol? Could we also abolish alcohol in restaurants where minors could be present? The obnoxious behavior of people after they've been drinking is quite embarrassing to parents with children.

Nonsmokers rights

A recent headline highlighted smokers and some business owners who believe a smoking ban violates their rights. What about the rights of the nonsmokers? Smokers can go most anywhere outdoors and smoke, but when you're inside a restaurant, you don't have a choice.

Entertainment coming

It will be great to sit back, listen and observe the convoluted rationales of erstwhile deficit hawks like Rand Paul as they rail against the draconian, but necessary, recommendations of the bipartisan tax commission.

Four Loko

MISSOURI remains first in meth lab busts. I also predict Missouri will be the last state (assuming it ever does) to ban Four Loko and other potentially deadly beverages mixing alcohol with high levels of caffeine.


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Journet is right on -- what ?

Smoking ban -- i agree...it should be the proprietor's decision on smoking in their establishment or not ...what happens when a cook burns food ?

Ban alcohol -- save me fom the self righteous !

Nonsmokers rights -- save me fom the self righteous !

Entertainment coming -- you got me there for a couple hours

Four Loko --- give me a break ! seems like everyone in the state believes we're a bunch of junkies down here in the SEMO area ..

-- Posted by ...Rick on Thu, Nov 18, 2010, at 3:13 AM

Two years ago when some people started rightfully questioning the direction this new administration would take the country they were told that the people had spoken and to shut up an accept it. Well guess what Mr Journet? Right back 'atcha!!

-- Posted by Data48 on Thu, Nov 18, 2010, at 5:29 AM

Entertainment Coming

Ummmm, I've already had mine this morning, by reading your comments.

-- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Thu, Nov 18, 2010, at 7:18 AM

Journet IS right on; corporate fascism is rising in this country.

smoking; I just don't give my business to places, that when I walk out of there smelling like cigs. I do not want someone telling me what I can and can not do in my place of business.

Four Loko; we "R" a bunch of junkies down here in SEMO and proud of it!!!

-- Posted by D49F11 on Thu, Nov 18, 2010, at 7:21 AM

And Rick, spare us from the unrighteous!

-- Posted by voyager on Thu, Nov 18, 2010, at 7:25 AM

Nonsmokers Rights - Here's the real deal. Why should the government dictate to a business owner what he/she cannot do in her own establishment, given that it is legal?

Are you a smoker and they don't allow smoking? DON'T PATRONIZE THE PLACE.

Are you a non-smoker and they do allow smoking? DON'T PATRONIZE THE PLACE.

Don't feel as though you need the government to step in, do it yourself.

-- Posted by Kllrfsh on Thu, Nov 18, 2010, at 7:51 AM

And Rick, spare us from the unrighteous!

-- Posted by voyager on Thu, Nov 18, 2010, at 7:25 AM

Voyager,

Could you add the self-righteous to that as well?

-- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Thu, Nov 18, 2010, at 8:18 AM

Never mind, Rick already caught that one Voyager.

Rick,

That mule kick to the head kind of getting a little better? I hope.

-- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Thu, Nov 18, 2010, at 8:21 AM

Ban alcohol,

Try to get a ban on alcohol. See where that goes. The non-smokers do have a democratic right to try and go smoke free. And if a majority support it, not more smoking.

Non-smoker,

Not true. Nobody forced them to be there. They have every right to leave or go somewhere else.

-- Posted by lumbrgfktr on Thu, Nov 18, 2010, at 8:35 AM

Just make restaurants that allow smoking put up a prominantly placed sign saying so. "Smoking is allowed here." Then people can make an informed decision as to where they'd like to eat.

-- Posted by Professor_Bubba on Thu, Nov 18, 2010, at 8:54 AM

"Why should the government dictate to a business owner what he/she cannot do in her own establishment, given that it is legal?"

They already do that all the time. Drinking is legal? Can you take a bottle with you into any establishment and start drinking? Can you buy shots of tequila at Plaza Tire? Can you sell beer on the street corner to cars driving by? Of course not. Because there are laws that regulate this completely legal activity. Business owners are already not allowed to do whatever they want. They have tons of regulations to follow (like OSHA, Local Liquor laws, zoning, etc).

Business owners having absolute power is a fallacy. This is a smoking regulation, not a ban. No one is taking away your cigarettes, only adding a stipulation on where you can do it...just like every other activity you do.

Take a minute and talk with an actual business owner. Ask them if they can do whatever they want right now. You'll find that regardless of this smoking ordinance, they cannot.

-- Posted by SteveM on Thu, Nov 18, 2010, at 9:00 AM

Journet is right on..."our democracy is in jeopardy'?? Last time I checked we live in a republic. We do not say in the Pledge of Allegiance...and to the democracy for which it stands, now do we? No. We say "...and to the republic for which it stands..."

I suggest you look up the difference between a republic and a democracy prior to spewing future dogsqueeze out of your brain.

-- Posted by Hawker on Thu, Nov 18, 2010, at 9:07 AM

-- Posted by SteveM on Thu, Nov 18, 2010, at 9:00 AM

You forgot to mention the joke that is FMLA. Now Buisness Owners are responsible for those who only want to work occasionaly.

-- Posted by lumbrgfktr on Thu, Nov 18, 2010, at 9:15 AM

If your addiction doesn't allow you to go twenty minutes without a nicotene fix, then annointing yourself some imaginary 'right' is (amazingly) not your biggest problem...

-- Posted by bobby62914 on Thu, Nov 18, 2010, at 9:59 AM

Wheels

the mule kick ain't much better , thanx for asking . i can't keep solid food down yet , i'm eating chicken soup and stuff like that .

i had the hershey squirts last nite too !..ACK!

-- Posted by ...Rick on Thu, Nov 18, 2010, at 10:15 AM

Rick,

Things will probably get back to normal over the next couple of days.

Leastways they didn't make a mistake and remove your brain. It seems to be doing just fine.

A few on here may have been the victims of a mistaken removal though. ☺ ☺ ☺ ☺

-- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Thu, Nov 18, 2010, at 10:23 AM

re: non smoking.

The city will probably offer to make the entire city non-smoking and then exempt any casinos in Cape. Alcohol will probably be next, not that they really want a casino or anything.

On an aside, if Cape does get a casino, how in the world are one million visitors a year going to get there? Two-lane Broadway?

-- Posted by rh3a on Thu, Nov 18, 2010, at 10:26 AM

I would not worry about how the gamblers are to get to the casino. While they may not be able to make it to work, to class (college level), to church and to any other venue except the freebies line... they will make it to the casino if it opens.

-- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Thu, Nov 18, 2010, at 11:05 AM

I'm sorry, but when I pay a price for a good meal I expect to enjoy it, not smell secondhand smoke. So I only go only to non-smoking restaurants, which limits MY freedom of choice. You smokers don't want limits on your rights, but have no problem trampling on mine. Also the children who have to sit there and breathe in that filth have no choice. As everyone well knows, its bad for your health. I would ask restaurant owners themselves to ban in their establishments if the city won't. And I do believe in establishments where alchol is served (Bars) they may be allowed to continue smoking as most people would not allow their children in these places anyway and I would think private clubs could make their own rules.

-- Posted by ArcticFox on Thu, Nov 18, 2010, at 1:58 PM

You forgot to mention the joke that is FMLA. Now Buisness Owners are responsible for those who only want to work occasionaly.

-- Posted by lumbrgfktr on Thu, Nov 18, 2010, at 9:15 AM

This law is a good law. It only says a company cannot fire you if you have a SERIOUS medical condition or if someone in your family had one and you are allowed to take up to 12 weeks UNPAID leave per year. Now if I call in every Friday or Monday because I am hung over they can fire me. But if I have a bad car wreck or a heart attack or a family member such as my child, spouse, parent is having a health problem like cancer they have to allow that UNPAID time off. Nothing wrong with that. I should not have to worry about losing my job while I am battling cancer or my child is seriously ill.

-- Posted by mightymo on Thu, Nov 18, 2010, at 2:00 PM

If smoking is allowed in Cape casino, then it's just a short and enjoyable drive to Metropolis. PLEASE, NO SMOKING.

-- Posted by Dexterite1 on Thu, Nov 18, 2010, at 2:01 PM

-- Posted by ArcticFox on Thu, Nov 18, 2010, at 1:58 PM

Just because you choose not to go somewhere doesn't mean its not an option.

-- Posted by lumbrgfktr on Thu, Nov 18, 2010, at 2:59 PM

There is no such thing as a right to smoke. That's such an absurd argument.

-- Posted by Dugtard on Thu, Nov 18, 2010, at 3:14 PM

So you're a senior citizen and the government says no health care for you, what do you do?

Our plan gives anyone 65 years or older a gun and 4 bullets.

You are allowed to shoot 2 senators and 2 representatives. Of Course, this means you will be sent to prison where you will get 3 meals a day, a roof over your head, and all the health care you need! New teeth, no problem. Need glasses, great. New hip, knees, kidney, lungs, heart? All covered. (And your kids can come and visit you as often as they do now).

And who will be paying for all of this? The same government that just told you that you are too old for health care.

Plus, because you are a prisoner, you don't have to pay any income taxes anymore.

IS THIS A GREAT COUNTRY OR WHAT?

-- Posted by ...Rick on Thu, Nov 18, 2010, at 5:00 PM

Rick that is so true. Its a shame that the working man or woman cannot get help but those who CAN work, but choose not to, can get all the help they want. Every morning when I go into work I sing this song put to the music of Snow White, " I owe I owe its off to work I go". Then when it is hard to get out of bed I think millions on welfare are depending on me so I can't call in sick today.

-- Posted by mightymo on Thu, Nov 18, 2010, at 7:38 PM

I figured out what to do about meth. Execute the person possessing the lab. Cut them open and insert the contraband put them in a casket and bury them with concrete. Problem solved and the lab is also cleaned up.

-- Posted by We Regret To Inform U on Thu, Nov 18, 2010, at 9:32 PM

I'm soo tired of the smoking ban talk! It's absurd! If the business wants a smoldered atmosphere it is their choice, not the resposibility of the government! Yes there us still things a business owner has to do in order to allow smoking; ventalization improvements, separated seating at certain places, ect... If this passes I suggest restrictions for family restaurants cause I'm tired of hearing your spoiled kids screaming and hollering while I'm trying to enjoy a meal... Or how about restricting bad drivers? It was kind of funny hearing that Metropolis is going to try and override the Illinois smoking ban due to lost profits since the ban and the fear that if Cape allows smoking they know they will lose more! Lol. Also people think it's good for us to do but when we smoke less then that extra tax money we have to pay for our habit loses money also... How about restricting gas guzzling beasts who are killing the planet, that will affect more people than our smoke will in the long run...

-- Posted by Commonsense2010 on Thu, Nov 18, 2010, at 9:33 PM


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