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Tuesday, August 31, 2010

Different approach

The debate over the ground zero mosque is another part of the never-ending fight over which religion is the supposed righteous one. The more I follow this fight, which pits one ancient text full of magical tales against another, I'm more vocal about my own position as an atheist. The argument over written passages made over a thousand years ago by competing and often warring leaders looks completely childish in today's world. Atheists are free to approach conflicts rationally and with less prejudice than our religious-minded counterparts. This approach would be well-served in a world torn apart by so many religious conflicts.

Respect teachers

TEACHERS would consider dressing more professionally when individuals in the community treat them as professionals. I have been in many schools and have seen a few teachers who could work on their dress. But most dress professionally. The community scrutinizes everything these professionals do. These are the only professionals I know who have to sit on the floor with students, take students to recess, walk from one end of the building to another multiple times during their day in professional shoes and spend most of the rest of the day standing while teaching. These teachers deserve respect from the community.

Casino stand

OUR mayor seems to be in favor of a casino coming to Cape Girardeau. That is disappointing to me as a voter who believed Harry Rediger would vote according to his core beliefs. His church, of which he is an active member, has been opposed to gambling and to the casino effort in the past. I guess Mr. Rediger either doesn't agree with a basic tenet of the religious organization of which he's a member or he's a hypocrite. Either way, I'm not impressed.

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Different approach --- a long time ago , in a land far away , two sides who were at war finally decided they wanted peace ...one side delivered a gift as a sign of good will , it was a giant wooden horse ! the receiving side was so thankful and humbled . they accepted the peace offering and allowed it in their city for all to see...but inside the giant horse were their warring enemies , who came out of the giant horse and conquered their city...all of this puts me in mind of the mosque in NYC...

Respect teachers --- thank you ! to all of you teachers who taught me how to read and write

Casino stand --- the state of Missouri hasn't even decided if they want to put a casino in Cape yet...what's all the fuss about ?

-- Posted by ad..man on Tue, Aug 31, 2010, at 7:28 AM

RE: Different Approach:

Your logic in approaching this issue seems to also miss the point that many having been saying. BUT since YOU are sooooooooooo intelligent and the rest of us are irrational, mindless boobs that believe in fantasy, how can we ever have an 'intelligent' conversation? Oh, to be so wise...

-- Posted by LiveAnotherDay on Tue, Aug 31, 2010, at 7:29 AM

Different Approach - As an atheist I am forced to agree that I don't see much merit in fighting over archaic beliefs; but that being said, I find myself still defending people's religious freedom. People, whether we like it or not, have a constitutional right to believe whatever they want in this country...whether it's right or wrong. To me, the mosque construction is about preserving religious freedom as a whole. I may also think that it's all fantasy and fairies, but whether you like it or not, people have the right to believe whatever fantasy they choose.

-- Posted by SteveM on Tue, Aug 31, 2010, at 7:54 AM

Casino Stand - you say, "Harry Rediger would vote according to his core beliefs." but then you say he needs to vote, based on what his CHURCH says. What if HIS core beliefs in relation to the church are the other way, then you're asking him to vote AGAINST his core beliefs.

-- Posted by vf43WRX on Tue, Aug 31, 2010, at 8:17 AM

Do any of use toe the line 100 percent with regards to whichever faith we claim allegiance to? I think not. Though I must admit misgivings when adherents of my faith take public stands opposed to the faith they claim. At that point, I have to remember the admonition that calls on me to remove the beam from my eye, rather than the splinter in my brother's eye. It is easy to call someone a hypocrite for not walking one's faith as perfectly as we would like. Let's be kind and give everyone the benefit of the doubt and remember that each of us is at a different point in our faith walk and rather than snipe we should extend a hand of fellowship and unconditional love to those we walk with.

-- Posted by Observer1 on Tue, Aug 31, 2010, at 8:41 AM

The Mosque is a receipe for creating a firestorm...literally. Some yam pool will take it upon himself to burn the thing down. Consider the fallout of that!

-- Posted by voyager on Tue, Aug 31, 2010, at 9:10 AM

speaking of hypocrite ...big national TV tonite for the POTUS taking credit for the prior administration's troop withdrawal timeline from Iraq..

ironic because all facets of issues holding back America for the last two (2) years have been blamed on the prior administration ..

it's obvious this is an election year and the POTUS is gasping for air..

-- Posted by ad..man on Tue, Aug 31, 2010, at 9:13 AM


What is the point many have been saying?


At one time not so long ago there was a christian organization that hid pedophiles from the police and pressured families to no to to the athorites. At the same time, this organization operates schools and other youth driven actitives. Yet there is no outcry about a trojan horse.

-- Posted by lumbrgfktr on Tue, Aug 31, 2010, at 9:14 AM

As Mayor of Cape, Harry Rediger's decisions are for the people of the city, not just the members of his church. If you only voted for him because you thought he was against having a casino here, maybe you're the hypocrite.

-- Posted by free2Bme on Tue, Aug 31, 2010, at 9:29 AM

teacher, "The community scrutinizes everything these professionals do." If only that were a true statement.

Esteem and honor must to be earned.

-- Posted by ho ho ho on Tue, Aug 31, 2010, at 9:29 AM


i digress . how are pedophiles equal to trojans ?

-- Posted by ad..man on Tue, Aug 31, 2010, at 10:52 AM

Rick --

The president hasn't even spoken yet. How do you know what he's going to say? He promised troop withdrawal from Iraq, and he made it happen. He has every right to talk about a campaign promise that was fulfilled.

Let's all thank G.W. for blowing $1.3 trillion on two wars, one of which should never have been started. Do you suppose these wars have put a dent in the budget?

Funny how you want to give Bush credit for the good things, but no responsibility for the bad.

Oh, and by the way, this afternoon, President Obama called and spoke with Bush on the phone.

Stop being such a hater. It's clouding your judgment.

-- Posted by grisgris on Tue, Aug 31, 2010, at 3:47 PM


don't even start with budget !

now that the POTUS has spoken , where there any surprises ?

-- Posted by ad..man on Tue, Aug 31, 2010, at 9:29 PM

Hey Rick, your story about the Trojan Horse was perfect.

-- Posted by LiveAnotherDay on Tue, Aug 31, 2010, at 11:12 PM

grisgris, you are spewing a lot of hate (and maybe some propaganda) yourself...

-- Posted by bobby62914 on Wed, Sep 1, 2010, at 12:04 AM

Ones FAITH has nothing to do with rules and doctrine some Churches seem to be filled with.

Again, games of chance like casinos offer are NOT a sin. They only become sinful when one or both parties cheat. The world isn't torn apart by religous conflicts, rather it is torn apart by silly human behavior and that behavior is why God had to put himself in flesh upon this planet. Too bad we have yet to pay attention to his message of love and peace.

-- Posted by GREYWOLF on Wed, Sep 1, 2010, at 12:07 PM

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