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Speak Out 8/19/10

Thursday, August 19, 2010

Hanging wires

AMERENUE surprises me. It replaced a power pole behind my house and left lines hanging to the ground. It has been three weeks and no word about it even after trying to call.

Action or obstruction

IN response to claims that Republicans are obstructionists, I say good. I'd rather not have our representatives passing laws like their jobs depended on it. I'd rather have them do nothing and stay out of my life. I'd rather them have to work normal jobs and spend less time in Washington, D.C., scheming and plotting.

Honesty first

JUST between you and me, I'm getting sick of hearing our president say, "Let me be clear." How about, "Let me be honest."

BP's mistake

A recent comment said BP should raise its gas prices so we end up paying for the cleanup of the Gulf oil spill. When other companies have been fined by the government or have had a crisis of their own making, they've done that. Remember, they are one of only a few companies that do not use oil from the Mideast. BP had an accident. Have you never made a mistake that was your fault? I hope those around you didn't carry a grudge and make you wallow in guilt forever like you expect of BP.

Catching speeders

AS for small towns catching speeders near the interstate, I think that's great. Speed limits are clearly marked, People coming off the interstate often drive fast because they're used to doing so. However, high speeds are a danger in residential areas and should not be tolerated. There's no excuse, and speeders deserve any ticket they receive. Good job to these police forces.

Problem gambling

CAPE Girardeau voters are being asked to consider a potential casino in November. It would be well for all of us to educate ourselves on what is being offered. The Missouri Gaming Commission has a website: www.mgc.dps.mo.gov/. The menu on the right-hand side has a "Problem gambling" link that discusses the signs of addiction to gambling. This is worth considering before casting your vote.

No exceptions

PRESIDENT Obama made a clear statement about whether or not a controversial Islamic center should have the right to be built near the site of the World Trade Center. His position is that of an ardent supporter of the Constitution: No such rights can be infringed upon, regardless of public sentiment. The tea party movement professes to unwaveringly stand by the Constitution, yet they're among the loudest voices condemning the president for his position. Along with this condemnation is a list of reasons why this particular case is an exception to the Constitution, but exceptions are exactly what the great document was designed to withstand.

School work

THOSE complaining that Cape Girardeau School District administrators dropped the ball on renovations and improvements by waiting until now to get the work done are on target. These renovations could have been tentatively scheduled pending the outcome of April's vote, and they obviously weren't. As a result, the work is just now being done. The noise is extremely distracting to students and teachers. Once again, our administration let those of us at the classroom level down. I'm sure excuses will be given. Please look past those excuses. Hold them as accountable as they hold those of us at the classroom level.

Fair taxation

IT is amazing how many folks adopt political positions counter to their interests. In terms of annual income, we have now reached a point -- thanks to the Bush economic plan (also the current Republican plan) -- where the top 1 percent of income earners in the United States earn 23.5 percent of all income earned, and the top 20 percent earn nearly 50 percent of all income earned. While the incredibly rich have acquired a greater share of all income over the last few decades, those of us in the lower percentages lost out. The folks who argue that sales taxes represent a fairer tax than income tax are forgetting that when it comes to basics, we all only need to buy so much food. Thus, the less affluent always will pay a higher proportion of their salary on essentials (and thus taxes) than will the affluent, who will squirrel their earnings away and not pay sales taxes on them. Sales taxes are regressive. placing a greater proportional burden on the less affluent. This is not a fair tax. A basic principle of taxation should be that those earning more should pay a higher tax rate. This is the essence of progressive taxes. It is fair and just. If I am earning millions of dollars, I should expect to pay a greater share than someone earning a tenth or a hundredth of what I earn.


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Fair taxation:

Please read the actual book before you start making statements that show you are repeating talking points. If you still don't agree, thats fine but at least you really know what your talking about.

No exceptions:

Perhaps it would have been better if our 'wonderful' President had held his tongue on ANOTHER local issue then to make it a national issue. ESPECIALLY when he makes such a statement at a dinner for Muslims after REFUSING to honor his 'Christian' beliefs in May. No wonder he needs another vacation.

-- Posted by LiveAnotherDay on Thu, Aug 19, 2010, at 7:33 AM

Honesty First: Now you know how I felt during the 2008 campaign when John McCain said thousands of times "My friends".

-- Posted by howdydoody on Thu, Aug 19, 2010, at 7:56 AM

Fair taxation - I don't think I can stop laughing!!!!!

What this person wants is already happening, have they not seen tax brackets before? And where does it say that just because someone is successful that life is all of a sudden "unfair."

Right now I'm putting money into my 401k, paying for health/dental insurance and preparing for the future in many ways. However, some of my friends are doing none of that and spending money on having 2 cars, partying and drinking and winery trips on the weekend. Those who are preparing for the future to be successful and/or save shouldn't be punished for good/responsible thinking.

You have to laugh at people when they claim "unfair." WOW, it's people like you that put our failure of a President in power just so you could get "free gas to fill my car."

-- Posted by vf43WRX on Thu, Aug 19, 2010, at 8:27 AM

BP's Mistake, No Exceptions, and Fair Taxation...Are you trying to be humorous, or are you just plain STUPID?

Get your facts straight before you parade, in a public forum, such an incoherent pile of drivel that has apparently fallen - somehow - out of your thick skulls.

-- Posted by Hawker on Thu, Aug 19, 2010, at 9:02 AM

I may be wrong on this but it is my impression that the "Fair Tax" often spouted about would not be a tax on staple items such as food and toilet paper (do we really need anything else). There fore those with less income would be paying considerably less taxes if all they can afford is staple items. It is a neat idea of a consumption tax only but my concern would be that not nearly enough revenue would be generated and I can only imagine the black market that would open up.

Hawker,

So what is your take on an Islamic Center 2 1/2 blocks from ground zero?

-- Posted by SWBG on Thu, Aug 19, 2010, at 9:51 AM

Prebate.

-- Posted by bobby62914 on Thu, Aug 19, 2010, at 9:54 AM

BP:

BP did not make a mistake. They were knowingly reckless.

Live Another Day:

i have to point out the pure stupidity of your logic/point.

How did he not honor christians? According to your logic, just speaking to a group once and make a single statement is "honoring" them. Yet you say he refuses to honor christions. So he has never spoke to christians?

I get you don't like his stance. But please try to find some actuall basis for it than some stupid talk radio show rant.

-- Posted by lumbrgfktr on Thu, Aug 19, 2010, at 10:48 AM

As has been stated by many, the Mosque near ground zero boils down not to can you do a thing? Constitutionally they have that right and I whole heartedly support that right, but should you do a thing? They are opening themselves up to unneeded hatred and confrontation. Or is that the point?

-- Posted by LEGION63 on Thu, Aug 19, 2010, at 10:56 AM

re : Mosque in NYC ...i see arson in the future..

-- Posted by ad..man on Thu, Aug 19, 2010, at 11:02 AM

-- Posted by LEGION63 on Thu, Aug 19, 2010, at 10:56 AM

Agree and good point. And even if that is their intent, that is then protected under free speach.

-- Posted by lumbrgfktr on Thu, Aug 19, 2010, at 11:10 AM

I am so tired of the Republican talking heads talking out of both sides of there face. Glen Beck critisized the Oman trying to build the Mosque for saying that U.S. foreign policy was partially to blame for the 9/11 attacks but right after 9/11 he was on t.v. saying the exact same thing. Who's the radical there? This is why I have resigned from the Republican party and have become a rogue independant.

-- Posted by LEGION63 on Thu, Aug 19, 2010, at 11:42 AM

How did he not honor christians? According to your logic, just speaking to a group once and make a single statement is "honoring" them. Yet you say he refuses to honor christions. So he has never spoke to christians?

I get you don't like his stance. But please try to find some actuall basis for it than some stupid talk radio show rant.

-- Posted by lumbrgfktr on Thu, Aug 19, 2010, at 10:48 AM

I believe LiveAnotherDay was talking about the National Day Of Prayer. President Obama is the first president to not have a White House celebration of this day since it was instituted in 1952. Yet he saw fit to hold a White House dinner honoring the start of Ramadan. No wonder the percentage of people who believe that he is really a Muslim has been steadily going up.

-- Posted by Data48 on Thu, Aug 19, 2010, at 11:44 AM

Data,

Actually you are wrong. More on that in a minute.

But the whole point is that missing the day of prayer wouldn't make him less christian, it would it not make him less Muslim since he didn't pray to Alah? If anything, they can argue that he is less religous because he didn't honor either religion.

The only reason their are a percentage of people who beleive he is a Muslim is because they are ignorant and choose to be ignorat by beleiving what their ignorant friends forward them and what ignorant poeple write on blogs. And maybe he is a closet muslim, but if he is it will get overlooked because of the crap like this people beleive and spread around.

Here is the actual link:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/pra...

-- Posted by lumbrgfktr on Thu, Aug 19, 2010, at 12:07 PM

so what if Obama is a muslim , who cares ? there is nothing wrong with being a muslim .

if he is , he should be proud of it though and not be "a closet muslim" as this leads to "ignorant people" ....

-- Posted by ad..man on Thu, Aug 19, 2010, at 12:51 PM

lumbrgfktr

Since I did NOT refer to anyone as having 'stupid' logic, I think you are totally out of line. BUT because I do understand where YOU are coming from, let me CLARIFY my statement.

Our 'wonderful' President did not participate as prior Presidents have during the month of May's Prayer Day. EITHER year since he has been in. YET he continues to participate in every Muslim activity he can.

NOW. I accept your apology for excercising your mouth in such a way as to extol your intelligence prior to asking for clarification.

And before anyone else choses to jump on this bandwagon, I am NOT saying anything against his participation in the Muslim activities but since he is to be President of the United States, he should not be entertaining one religion and excluding others.

-- Posted by LiveAnotherDay on Thu, Aug 19, 2010, at 1:31 PM

SWBG...Simple. They are going to build a major Sharia Muslim tourist attraction - as they have built in numerous other locations at sites of their "victories" - and they will do it under the guise of freedom of religion.

And, unfortunately, they will probably succeed.

Follow the money.

-- Posted by Hawker on Thu, Aug 19, 2010, at 1:58 PM

Honesty first

JUST between you and me, I'm getting sick of hearing our president say, "Let me be clear." How about, "Let me be honest."

How about putting your money where your mouth is...Just how sick are you? Nausea, diarrhea, sore throat....

or did you mean you are annoyed?

Sure wish you could just be honest instead of exaggerating....

-- Posted by Theorist on Thu, Aug 19, 2010, at 2:09 PM

Anytime I hear someone say, "Let me be honest..." I think they are admitting that they aren't always honest.

-- Posted by bobby62914 on Thu, Aug 19, 2010, at 2:15 PM

bobby62914

would that mean someone who always says "Let me be clear" is not always clear ?

-- Posted by ad..man on Thu, Aug 19, 2010, at 2:29 PM

Rick,

Exactly! They are implying that their point has not been clear and this time they are going to make sure it is...

-- Posted by bobby62914 on Thu, Aug 19, 2010, at 2:31 PM

LiveAnotherDay

I didn't say you have stupid logic. I said your point had stupid logic. Lets think about it for a second. Maybe you don't actually mean it the way it reads.

The national day of prayer is a day for all religions. So actually he didn't honor Muslums like you mentioned, he dishonored them. Correct? Since ingoring that day should be an insult to ALL religions, not just christians. Or are you saying that that National Day of Prayer should ONLY be for christians? Which means then means the government is officially sanctioning a religion.

But now lets get to your latest statements:

Paeticipates in EVERY Muslim activity? Really? Dord he really Pray 5 times a day, since that is what every muslim activity would dictate.

But I will again question your logic and reasoning with this issue. You said he is dishonors christians for not hosting an event to celebrate a non-secular event, but only celebrates muslims for speaking at a muslim events. So what is your exact ratio to determine faith because he has also hosted and/or spoke at christian activites. Because other presidents have spoken at non-christian events.

guess my question now is what is your propper religion hosting. You say he should be honoring all religions while condemning him for it. What about Easter breakfast. Was that not christian? Once again I ask for your to clarifiy your logic.

I am not offering an apology by the way because I stand by my original statement.

I also did not celebrate national day of prayer and I am actually offended by your assertation that I am less of a Christian for it. Why is it you never offered me an apology?

-- Posted by lumbrgfktr on Thu, Aug 19, 2010, at 2:36 PM

lumbrgfktr;

What did that Snopes link have to do with anything being discussed here? I didn't say President Obama cancelled the National Day of Prayer, it would take an act of Congress to do that, just that he has engaged in no White House recognition of it. Exactly where was I wrong?

-- Posted by Data48 on Thu, Aug 19, 2010, at 2:44 PM

I am so tired of the Republican talking heads talking out of both sides of there face. Glen Beck critisized the Oman trying to build the Mosque for saying that U.S. foreign policy was partially to blame for the 9/11 attacks but right after 9/11 he was on t.v. saying the exact same thing. Who's the radical there? This is why I have resigned from the Republican party and have become a rogue independant.

-- Posted by LEGION63 on Thu, Aug 19, 2010, at 11:42 AM

Glen Beck is a Libertarian.

-- Posted by Alt Ctrl Del on Thu, Aug 19, 2010, at 2:46 PM

lumbrgfktr;

What did that Snopes link have to do with anything being discussed here? I didn't say President Obama cancelled the National Day of Prayer, it would take an act of Congress to do that, just that he has engaged in no White House recognition of it. Exactly where was I wrong?

-- Posted by Data48 on Thu, Aug 19, 2010, at 2:44 PM

Obama recognized and many Presidents skipped hosting formal services, including Reagan and the first Bush.

-- Posted by lumbrgfktr on Thu, Aug 19, 2010, at 4:01 PM

FAIR TAXATION.

The current so-called "progressive" income tax is NOT progressive at all.

With tax credits, tax deductions and tax loopholes, there are many ways for very high wage earners to get around the higher tax brackets of this "progressive income tax system".

In many cases the percentage of tax the rich end up paying is LESS than the percentage of tax paid by those in the middle class.

So those people supporting the current Income Tax system are supporting a system that may be called progressive, but in actual practice it is not.

Income tax laws are constantly changing and only very wealthy businesses and very wealthy individuals have enough money to hire tax attorneys and accountants to constantly monitor the ever changing income tax laws.

Those that continue to argue for and support the current Income Tax system are actually hurting the segment of the population they claim to be helping -- the middle class and the poor.

The only solution to all this is a new tax system.

And the only argument that should be occurring today is what that new tax system should be.

Anyone voicing support for the current Income Tax system is supporting a tax system that is woefully inefficient, is made up of mind numbing rules and laws that the majority of citizens do not understand and actually harms the middle class and poor of this country.

-- Posted by scottgreene on Thu, Aug 19, 2010, at 6:15 PM

FAIR TAXATION.

The current so-called "progressive" income tax is NOT progressive at all.

With tax credits, tax deductions and tax loopholes, there are many ways for very high wage earners to get around the higher tax brackets of this "progressive income tax system".

In many cases the percentage of tax the rich end up paying is LESS than the percentage of tax paid by those in the middle class.

So those people supporting the current Income Tax system are supporting a system that may be called progressive, but in actual practice it is not.

Income tax laws are constantly changing and only very wealthy businesses and very wealthy individuals have enough money to hire tax attorneys and accountants to constantly monitor the ever changing income tax laws.

Those that continue to argue for and support the current Income Tax system are actually hurting the segment of the population they claim to be helping -- the middle class and the poor.

The only solution to all this is a new tax system.

And the only argument that should be occurring today is what that new tax system should be.

Anyone voicing support for the current Income Tax system is supporting a tax system that is woefully inefficient, is made up of mind numbing rules and laws that the majority of citizens do not understand and actually harms the middle class and poor of this country.

-- Posted by scottgreene on Thu, Aug 19, 2010, at 6:16 PM

i often wonder what would happen if everyone worried as much about what they had as they did with other people's stuff....

-- Posted by ad..man on Thu, Aug 19, 2010, at 9:01 PM

The high wage earners, collectively, pay a higher percentage of the federal income tax collected than the percentage of income that they earn.

I don't have the exact numbers, but I believe I am pretty close. The top one percent of wage earners pay 23% of the federal income tax collected but earn 16% of the total income.

The top half of wage earners pay over 90% of federal income taxes collected.

The idea that high income people do not pay their fair share of taxes is just class envy propaganda.

Notice I did not confuse wealthy people with high income people. Many wealthy people do not have high incomes and many high income people are not in that bracket for too many years.

-- Posted by bobby62914 on Thu, Aug 19, 2010, at 9:36 PM


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