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Speak Out 11/4/09Wednesday, November 4, 2009Great Halloween I would like to thank all of the local churches that had activities for children. We had tons of fun and appreciate all of your hard work. On all cars PUT breathalyzers on all cars when they are manufactured. This is the answer to drunken drivers. Put it on as a safety feature. On the money AS usual, Joe Sullivan, your article is so neat. I have eight cats of my own. I think we could share stories back and forth. You're absolutely right on the money. Everything you say is just about true. I could give you a few pointers. Thank you for such a good column. Double standard WHEN is life a life? We have sympathy for the family of the recent homicide victims in Cape Girardeau. The suspects are being charged with three murders: the mother, the son and the unborn child, and rightfully so. When someone else takes the life of an unborn child, it is murder. When a mother takes the life of her unborn child, it is a choice. It seems there is a double standard here. The unborn child is a child, no matter who decides to kill it. Hug a smoker Talk about a heated debate. The smoking issue has got people up in arms. I keep hearing all these horrible remarks directed toward the smokers. That's downright mean. These people won't live nearly so long. We should be nice to smokers. Their lives will be plagued with disease. They need a hug. Stop the murders The death sentence need to be used more, and it should be a painful death. If potential murderers know what the punishment is going to be, maybe there would be fewer murders. GOP civil war The GOP seems to be in the midst of a civil war. I don't like it. I blame those in the party I deem fanatics. Fanatics are those who redouble their efforts when they have forgotten their goal. Bad comic I do not like the new trial comic, "Fort Knox." It is not funny and not indicative of military post life. It takes time Somebody using this forum recently tried linking the lack of flu shots to President Obama's plans for health care reform. Nice try, but next time do some more research. It takes more than a couple of months to manufacture enough of vaccines for a country as populous as the U.S. Flu vaccines are biological entities that need to be incubated. There's currently no known method akin to a rush job. Mow those leaves If you can mow your grass as needed, you can mow your leaves as needed. Don't burn. Be safe.
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On all cars
And what does this caller propose we do about the people who drive on cocaine, meth, prescription pills, lsd, etc.? If breathalyzers become mandatory, then the drunks will just drive older cars...
Double standard
An unborn child has not taken its first breath, it does not have a legal name, it does not have a social security number, and it is not included in census counts. While I do agree with charging a person who murders a pregnant woman with two charges of murder; I am fully supportive of a person's choice of abortion. IF YOU ARE NOT THE PREGNANT MOTHER, WHY IS IT ANY OF YOUR BUSINESS WHAT THEY DO WITH THEIR OWN BODY? Hint: it is none of your business!
It takes time
Flu shots and Obama declaring the H1N1 flu as a national emergency is just another example of the government catering to one of its favorite special interest groups--the pharmaceutical lobby.
For those of you who do not have the opportunity to watch Dr. OZ, he had a very interesting segment on his Tuesday show regarding the sanitation issues with grocery store foods. The segment regarding the open bins for such things as bagels, breads and such, sure made me rethink this type of buying. Hidden cameras showed a majority of shoppers using their BARE hands to retrieve items from the open bins vs using the tongs provided. This was VERY disturbing to me especially right now with the flu concerns. What makes shoppers be so absent minded??
Watching people touch their hair, mouth,nose, what ever else they wanted to touch, and then sticking their hands in bins which are used by so many. And they did not just touch one and take it, it was like shopping for the freshest fruit in the bin. According to a health inspector on the show, the number one foreign objects in the bottom of these bins are.....FAKE FINGERNAILS!!!! Maybe now is the time to remove this free for all from stores.
By the way, according to this segment, your produce is touched by approximately 20 people by the time you take it home. Keep buying but, WASH! WASH! WASH!!!
Double Standard,
Its not really a double standard. The point at which it becomes of life is debateable. Is a bunch a cells a person? What about the fetus right before delivery?
Its not an easy debate so you can't just say its all a life.
I really don't like to get into the abortion issue, but the concern is not what a woman does with her body, but rather the child within.
If someone truly believes that abortion is murder, you really cannot expect them to be indifferent.
Mow those leaves ....mow them or burn them but one thing is for sure . when you get done all of the neighbor's leaves will end up in your yard...
The child in the womb is not the woman's body. It is a separate body with its own blood type, it's own fingerprints. Choice happens when a woman and a man choose to have sex.
It takes time: Well, not exactly...
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion/ope...
The child in the womb is not the woman's body. It is a separate body with its own blood type, it's own fingerprints. Choice happens when a woman and a man choose to have sex.
-- Posted by Observer1 on Wed, Nov 4, 2009, at 8:29 AM
What about before they get fingernails?
It takes time: Well, not exactly...
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion/ope...
-- Posted by blogbudsman on Wed, Nov 4, 2009, at 8:37 AM
So in order vaccanate the American Public, the correct path would be to provide a vaccine that a larger portion of the public is fearfull of taking?
If you were to read many of the comments on this board you would see that people are scared to death of immunization. So producing a vaccine they won't take would not do any good.
I'd love to hug a smoker, but I don't want to smell like an ashtray afterwards.
Good morning! ☻
Great Halloween...I agree! ;o)
Breathalyzers on all cars...I don't want to pay for that 'option' on my new car when I don't drink.
On the money...eight cats, good grief. Hoarder comes to mind. ☻
Double standard...no double standard here. The tragedy is two people were murdered, one whom was pregnant. Period.
Hug a smoker...I wouldn't suggest this, I don't like to be touched by strangers. ☻
Stop the murders...I think murderers are already AWARE of the penalties.
It takes time...yes, they have a year. Same as before. It's all very disturbing.
Mow those leaves...nah, prefer to burn them. Thanks anyway.
Observer1,
"The child in the womb is not the woman's body."
What?
"It is a separate body with its own blood type, it's own fingerprints. Choice happens when a woman and a man choose to have sex."
Again, why is it your business what a pregnant woman does with HER OWN BODY?
Are you the same type of person who thinks that big brother ought to regulate and prohibit, say, parents smoking in their own home due to the presence of sex trophies?
Bad comic; Yes by all means regard "Beetle Bailey" as a true depiction of post life....
If cells are growing...they're living...that equals LIFE. What kind of living cells (LIFE) are they...Plant? Bird? Insect? .... Reptile? ... Fish? or, even your favorite pet? How many who have no problem snuffing out an innocent HUMAN BEING at any stage out of personal choice for personal convenience or financial advantage and argue the government has no business telling me what to do in regards to an 'innocent baby' (i.e. clump of cells to those who want to dehumanize it) on the other hand whole heartedly support tax payer funded government intervention into and the destruction of HUMAN BEING'S lively hood such as is happening in California due to a minuscule fish???...When a society reveres plants, insects, fish, reptiles, birds, animals more than an 'innocent' HUMAN life (clump of cells to those who want to dehumanize it and make it more palatable to their super intellect)that society is marked for destruction from within. (What does that book of human standards (that the super intellectuals discredit) say about the shedding of "INNOCENT HUMAN" blood? The 'choice' was made as someone said above, which I rephrase a little...'when the egg hatcher and sperm donor decided to have sex.' Choices have consequences. We are in the hyper state of confusion, disillusionment, chaos, and economic peril today as a nation because too many have bought into the notion that they are 'entitled by our constitution to do as each one sees fit in his or her own eyes and escape the personal responsibility and consequences for their personal choices and actions.' It's never been true, and it's not now.
I really don't have an opinion either way on the abortion issue, but I do agree there is a Double Standard. If an unborn child can be "murdered" by a person who kills the mother, then why is that unborn child not "murdered" when the mother kills the baby and ends the pregnancy?
Either charge everybody that kills an unborn child or don't charge anybody with the death of an unborn child.
redhawkstudent
very well said....
Redhawk student,
There isn't a double standard.
It all depends on the how far along the pregnancy is. I think its defined as 24 weeks in missouri.
redhawkstudent,
I have always thought the absolutist position IE "always acceptable/never acceptable" to be much easier to defend. When you venture outside that the "problems" begin and logical, consistent positions are almost impossible to form and justify.
I must admit, I remain in a seemingly endless state of flux.
John Adams,
How can a fetus SUSTAIN its "life" without the mother? Furthermore, when they take the next census, do they count a pregnant woman as one person or two people?
A cold-blooded murder is a hell of a lot more heinous than somebody aborting something growing inside of THEIR OWN BODY, don't you think?
Once again, why do you care what somebody does WITH THEIR OWN BODY?
Oh, and PARAGRAPHS ought to be your friend.
A cold-blooded murder is a hell of a lot more heinous than somebody aborting something growing inside of THEIR OWN BODY, don't you think?
Posted by lurker on Wed, Nov 4, 2009, at 12:41 PM
Unless of course you're the aborted fetus...in which case I don't think you would be so arrogant. You ought to go to an abortion clinic and look at the remains before you spout your absolutist opinion on the matter. It's not a cancer. It is a human being. Go look at one and tell me you can't tell the difference. Oh, and logic trained by moral conscious ought to be YOUR friend.
John Adams,
I've seen pictures, thanks.
Are you just going to avoid answering my questions?
How can a fetus SUSTAIN its "life" without the mother?
When they take the next census, do they count a pregnant woman as one person or two people?
Once again, why do you care what somebody does WITH THEIR OWN BODY?
How is YOUR life affected when somebody has an abortion?
Double Standard ... Recall a lot of debate and argument about this issue when some states were discussing passing laws making killing an unborn child a murder. To me, it did seem rather obvious: Either a fetus is a fetus, or a fetus is a baby ... regardless of who destroys it.
To others though, it seems to be a matter of whether or not the mother views it as a fetus which is disposable (a "'something' growing inside of THEIR OWN BODY") or a baby? And thanks, Observer, for the "choice" comment. I'd certainly choose that over the pain (physical and perhaps psychological) of abortion. We are in the minority, but I'm not sure that makes us wrong.
Hug a Smoker ... Thanks ... I think. That's okay, southeast ... who to hug should also be a choice. ~laughing~
Mow Those Leaves ... They make a great mulch for your lawns, actually. But if you must burn them ... make sure you keep the smoke contained to your own property (someone said that recently ... fxpwt?). Perhaps you could invite smokers to come over to add some excitement and inspire a debate? Right, Rick ... leaves are a never-ending source of amusement.
John Adams,
So 'Personal convenience' or 'financial advantage' are the ONLY 2 reasons a woman would choose to abort? You're kidding. Do I even need to start listing the other obvious reasons that have to do with health and well-being of mother and child?
Reality check: There are some not-so-nice things people have to go through in their lives. There are decisions that have to be made that are HARD to make. You and the government do not have the necessary information to make those decisions for that woman and her unborn child.
Observation: There are people in this world who should have never been parents. And those kids suffer for it their entire lives. How sad.
How can a fetus SUSTAIN its "life" without the mother?
-- Posted by lurker on Wed, Nov 4, 2009, at 3:17 PM
Take a newborn, walk off and leave it and see how long it sustains itself.
Should we only care about the things that effect us? If we see someone committing suicide should we just go on about our business?
There are no arguments that is going to really change anyone's mind on this.
What did everyone think of that Editorial cartoon (11-4)? I thought it was hilarious. ☻
Blackthorn,
A newborn would last a hell of a lot longer than a fetus... An apples to oranges comparison considering that a newborn is breathing, has a legal name, has a social security number, and is recognized by the census bureau among other things.
If someone wants to end their life without infringing upon the rights of others, let them have at it. Granted, if I saw someone, say, trying to jump off a bridge, I'd notify the authorities but I'm certainly not going to try to stop them as it could come back at me.
"There are no arguments that is going to really change anyone's mind on this."
Why not? WHY DO PEOPLE CARE WHAT OTHERS DO PROVIDED THEIR LIVES REMAIN UNAFFECTED? I WANT TO KNOW!
lurker,
Just degrees; I don't accept the apples to oranges. All things you mentioned are creations of government. Make the same argument for someone in the Amazon jungles or in any culture different than our own.
As to the suicide, I am in favor of doctor assisted termination, but I am in the minority and most will feel compelled to do something about it regardless of claims "it is my body".
As to your last question, if you truly don't know then I can't help you..
Blackthorn,
Lame response is lame. May God have mercy on your soul.
Re: On all cars
Going to the extreme, since dollars and sense are apparently no 'roadblocks' - why stop with a breathalyzer?
Why not install a video driving gameboy simulator where a route has to be completed successfully before the car will start? Heck, put some actuators on the seat and suspension to give the driver a real-feel. Could use heads-up technology to display on the windshield, and the steering wheel and foot pedals would be the game's 'joysticks'.
In addition to preventing drunk drivers - could prevent drugged drivers, as well as those who just can't or otherwise shouldn't drive. To give states their feeling of individual empowerment - they would be allowed to choose the level of difficulty required, perhaps even tuning it to the conditions to be driven in - rural, city, metropolitan, icy, rainy (don't forget those simulated headlights when you flip on the simulated wipers!), dark, bright sunlight, blinding sunset. Given computer technology and feedback sensors - could even similate the car's real conditions - such as sloppy steering, underinflated tires, expired shocks or struts.
Law enforcement could have more laws to enforce - simulated driving while impaired, as well as all the simulated traffic tickets should someone simply err on the course.
Ahhh, think of the possibilities when one freely lets the government into their lives. :-)~
Re: Mow those leaves
Much easier to mulch the leaves than to rake and burn them. The biggest problem here in the 'hood is that many have found that it's much easier to do nothing at all.
Man, I thought this was just a discussion; guess I was wrong so I better stay off here. Have a good evening.
"Man, I thought this was just a discussion; guess I was wrong so I better stay off here. Have a good evening."
You're too predictable.
Either charge everybody that kills an unborn child or don't charge anybody with the death of an unborn child.
Redhawkstudent..
This is absurd.
But please, help me to understand.
If you were to get raped and became pregnant and did not wish to carry the child, should you be convicted of murder for terminating the pregnacy?
Or should the man who killed you after you become pregnant not be convicted of murder because you have no opinion either way on the abortion issue?
How anyone could think you made a valid point is beyond me.