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 Investigators remove a victim's body from 1224 N. Missouri St. Tuesday morning, October 27, 2009, in Cape Girardeau. There was a double homicide at the residence early Tuesday morning. (Kit Doyle) [Click to enlarge] [Order this photo] |
Michelle Lawrence and Ryan Patterson were charged with several counts in the double homicide. Michelle is the wife of John Lawrence, who shared the home with Jamie Orman, who was found shot to death Tuesday morning. Click here for more details.
Update: 10:40 a.m.
Cape Girardeau County Coroner John Clifton said an autopsy confirmed that gunshot wounds killed the two victims and that Jamie Lynn Orman, 30, was pregnant and in the third trimester.
Update: 9:30 a.m.
Police have arrested two people in connection with the double homicide, but haven't yet released the names. Charges should be filed later today.
Original story
A 15-year-old boy shot in his mother's residence before dawn Tuesday reached his two younger brothers, one of whom called 911, before he died of his injuries, Cape Girardeau Police Department spokesman Sgt. Jason Selzer said.
Derrick Joseph Orman and his mother, Jamie Lynn Orman, 30, were found dead from gunshot wounds in the residence at 1224 N. Missouri Ave. Jamie Lynn Orman lived in the home, but detectives with the Cape Girardeau/Bollinger County Major Case Squad would not disclose whether Derrick Orman lived there or was visiting his mother overnight.
Neighbors said Jamie Orman lived in the home with John Lawrence, who owned the home with his estranged wife, Michelle Lawrence, according to Cape Girardeau County property tax records.
Lawrence was not at home at the time of the slayings, Selzer said.
The killer or killers who committed the double murder forced open a door, but there is no indication of a robbery or other crimes besides the slayings, Selzer said.
 A Cape Girardeau police officer stands outside the scene of a double homicide Tuesday morning at 1224 Missouri Ave. in Cape Girardeau. (Kit Doyle) [Click to enlarge] [Order this photo] |
On Tuesday afternoon, police were not ready to identify anyone as a suspect and no one was being interrogated, Selzer said. Everyone who has been contacted so far about the killings has cooperated with investigators, Selzer said.
Investigators believe both Jamie Orman and Derrick Orman were shot in their beds, Selzer said. "The 15-year-old was able to move from the point where he was shot to another area of the house where his brothers were before he passed away," he said.
The two younger brothers, 14 and 9, were not injured. The 14-year-old called 911 at about 5 a.m. to report the shootings, Selzer said.
Cape Girardeau County Coroner John Clifton declined to give any information about the wounds the two suffered. Autopsies were performed Tuesday afternoon by Dr. Russell Deidiker, a forensic pathologist, in Farmington, Mo., Clifton said.
About 30 officers from six police agencies were working to solve the case, Selzer said. The Cape Girardeau/Bollinger County Major Case Squad typically works for 48 hours to solve a case, but the time can be extended if promising leads still exist.
The deaths are the first murders in Cape Girardeau in 18 months, since George Robinson, 42, died April 29, 2008, in an arsonist-set fire at 203 S. Pacific St. No suspect has been arrested in that case.
The most recent shooting death in Cape Girardeau took place Feb. 22, 2008, when Chabreasha Egson, 20, was shot inside her home at 1523 N. Spanish St. Tambra Turner of Sikeston, Mo., is awaiting trial in Egson's slaying.
Officers and coroner's aides worked in a steady rain while neighbors gathered underneath porches and carports. Throughout the morning investigators and law enforcement, dressed mostly in white suits, walked in and out of the Lawrence residence, whose yard was marked off by yellow tape.
Investigators gathering evidence interviewed witnesses living at homes in the 1200 block of North Missouri Avenue. Seven Cape Girardeau police cars were parked on the street, as well as vehicles from the Cape Girardeau Sheriff's Department and Jackson Police Department.
A steady stream of motorists hoping to get a glimpse of the crime scene drove through neighborhood, sometimes stopping to ask questions of those watching.
By 1:30 p.m., a cluster of neighbors from nearby Stoddard Street had gathered, some unaware of what happened.
Mary Harper, 1505 Stoddard St., said her son had played football with one of the boys Monday.
"I'm very surprised this happened in our neighborhood," she said. "Nothing like this seems to happen here. We're very close-knit here."
Neighbor Rick Broniste, who lives at 1229 N. Missouri Ave., said he has known the Lawrences since 2005.
"When I woke up at 4:45 this morning things seemed pretty normal," Broniste said. "Then 30 minutes later I open my blinds to see flashing police cars. I never heard anything out of the ordinary, and believe me, the dogs that live in homes nearby would have let us know.
"The people who lived there have been great neighbors and upstanding citizens as far as I could tell," he said. "For something like this to happen is beyond comprehension. It's a shocker. An absolute shocker."
The residence was home to John Lawrence and Michelle Lawrence and their two children prior to John Lawrence filing for divorce in June 2008. That divorce is still pending, and attorneys for both spouses appeared in court Tuesday morning in Jackson, where Associate Circuit Judge Scott Thomsen set a Jan. 22 trial date.
John Lawrence filed for a divorce the day after Jamie Orman's former husband, Bruce Orman of Perryville, Mo., filed papers in Perry County seeking a divorce. The Ormans' divorce became final in October 2008.
Broniste said Michelle moved out of the Lawrence home in the early summer and Orman moved in soon after.
The only disputes he ever witnessed between John and Michelle Lawrence were over issues such as keeping the inside of the house clean, Broniste said.
No one answered when a reporter knocked at Michelle Lawrence's residence Tuesday afternoon. No number could be found to contact Bruce Orman.
Police have been unable to locate any neighbors who heard gunshots, Selzer said. Investigators are asking that anyone who lives in the neighborhood who saw a car or someone walking nearby before 5 a.m. contact the police.
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Oh brother...not good
At least your not walking around campus after that.Some times Im walking in the dark up there.
I've said it before and will say it again... murderers and thiefs are among the most useless and pointless people in society.
a suicide-murder perhaps?
When was the last double homicide in Cape?
Almighty:
That's very insightful and profound...duh.
A couple of observations from the picture:
There is a sticker on the door used to identify pets, adults and children in case of emergency, carved pumpkins on the porch and what appears to be a stack of CD-Rs on the table. I really hope children aren't involved here, but it seems that there was at least one younger person there.
Pray for the boy who called 911 and his brother. This has to be very rough on them.
Boyfriend or ex-husband? Hope the nine year old knows who did, and isn't involved.
1224 N Missouri is not that close to Capaha and Semo. Why are they mentioned in this story?
what's up Missourian?
the home page headline is
Woman, teenage boy shot to death at Cape Girardeau home (updated at 9:51 am)
Southeast Misourian
Cape Girardeau police are investigating a double homicide at a house near Capaha Park and the Southeast Missouri State University campus. Cpl. Adam Glueck said that around 5 a.m. police received a 911 call from a...
but when you click on the "full article" you get this, which is what was posted at 7:56 am
havefaith,
When you pull up the article, hit your refresh button. Your browser is caching the old version.
iliketoeat,
Actually, the address is rather close to both the park and SEMO. Really only a few blocks away. I know because I live in that neighborhood.
This is so awful. You want to believe that things like this just don't happen around here, but unfortunately the crimes in this area seem, to me anyway, to be getting steadily more violent. This poor family. But how in the world were gunshots fired without the neighbors being aware?
Iliketoeat, well, in between your munching, you should get out more! N. Missouri is right by Capaha Park and close enough to the campus that employees and students who live in the area and walk.
JD420, did you really think it was necessary to point that out? Shame on you! The point of this story is that two people are dead and that two other children have had their lives shattered by this senseless crime.
Yankeestation, you should have a heart full of compassion instead of a mind full of needless speculation, even if you phrase it as "hope"
My thoughts go out to the friends, family and surviving children of this horrible tragedy.
Who cares who old she was when she started having children? Her age compared to her children's age makes the situation no less tragic. JD420 show some compassion and stop judging!!!! We should all be praying for the family of the victims and holding our own families a little closer today!
Matt Sanders, I really do think you give yourself much too much discretion in what you chose to delete from the comments. (i.e. a comment regarding the fact that Jo Ann Emerson shouldn't be wearing tank tops at her age unless her arms look like Michelle Obama's, which you deleted because it didn't equate with your opinions) Now, were is the comment stating the fact that this couple is divorcing? It suddenly disappeared. Of course, it implied that the soon-to-ex may be involved, but that doesn't fit the stated criteria for deletion. Do you understand what you job is?
The Missourian report was closer to the location than the KFVSTV coverage. Early KFVS report put the scene "On Missouri Street, right behind "Jimmy Johns".
my thoughts, why don't you read the paper's terms of service before spouting off http://www.semissourian.com/help/legal/
If there was no force of entry then I say it was a murder suicide but you also need to talk to the other kids that were in the house at the time and seem to not be injured at all because it is weird how the 15 yr old and the mom out of all the kidsw were the only ones killed something dosen't add up to me!
Sam DeReign,
I guess the last 'double homicide' was when Krajcir killed Brernda Parsh, and her mother, Mary in August, 1977. August 9, 1992 Gary Roll murdered Sherry, Randy, and Curtis Sheper, and September 20, 1992 Andrew Lyons murdered Evelyn Sparks, her daughter, and grandson.
We should all remember that this is a great tragedy, and respect those who lost their lives and their loved ones. My thoughts and prayers go out to the surviving children, the family, and the community.
who reported the 14 year old and 9 year old are 'her' kids too?
capeguy30
they clearly state, and I quote; "Glueck said there were signs of forced entry."
Isn't it Missouri Avenue?
JD420 - how rude! Let the remarks begin that have nothing to do with what has happened...
It is not close enough to SEMO to mention it in the story. The Missourian is good about stuff like this to try to get people worried. Parents whose children are at SEMO will read this and worry because they are not familiar with Cape.
@ foreman: This location is indeed close to SEMO. In fact, it is around 5 blocks away from Scully and Dempster buildings. Many students live on New Madrid, Missouri, and West End because it is so close. Go take a look.
I agree with MusicMaker that two gunshots, atleast two, would have/should have been heard by neighbors. I can only pray that the younger two children will find an appropriate outlet to deal with what has happened to them. And I pray that they didn't witness this act, considering the speculation is that it was possibly their father who is responsible.
I really hope this wasn't a lover's quarrel thing or whatever. I have never understood why some people have to be so psycho about their exes.
420...what does her age she had kids have anything to do with it. you should not be on hear commenting on anything. let's use some intelligent conversations on this one people!
my_thoughts,
You accused someone in the case without any real evidence. Thus, your comment was deleted.
Sorry i misread the story I seen on kfvs12 there was forced entry but then why are the 2 boys who wasn't injured at the police station and why did the person who shot the mom and the 15th yr old not shoot the other kids that is suspicious don't you think Matt?
My Heart felt Prayers are with these children.
This saddened me to no end early this morning when I first heard about it. I am sure the police will sort things out and soon we will have an arrest. Before we pass judgement on anyone lets let the people who are investigating this horrible crime give us some answers.
Triple homicide if what the neighbor says is true.
i meant here, not hear for all grammar technologist
Triple Homicide? KZIM was reporting only two dead, the mother and the 15-year-old. Additionally, I thought the other two children we're said to be 15 and 9?
No matter the home situation, sounds like it's going to be an all around bad deal. My condolences.
My prayers to the family and friends. Bad enough to lose an adult so young, but to lose a 15 year old would be unimaginable. My thoughts and prayers are with all involved.
my_thoughts,
i went to case.net with the name that you listed as the husband and the ages didn't match up. if fact they are 10 years off. the case.net web site showed that the lady was born in 1970. so you take 2009 and subtract 1970 and you get 39 years old. so unless the news it wrong than you are. you can't just go around putting the blame on people for murder. blah blah blah blah is all you have to say.
I think everyone is missing the point of what really should be looked at here.
Our police department is doing everything they can in the midst of a changing environment. The economy is still in a bad swing... especially in IL where alot of the crime in Cape is coming from.
If we want answers to why thefts, assaults, burglaries, robberies, and now murders are happening, and happening frequently, we need to look at our city administration.
Why are we spending millions on a water park that will be run down after only a year. Will you take your daughter there when it becomes a daycare for those who don't want to take care of their delinquent children during the day?
Many have been warning that murders would start to become prevelent. The signs have all been there. Our city officials want to pretend that we are still a small town community with small town values. Ha ha!
Most people, when moving into the area, decide to move to Jackson, or the County because of two reasons... THE CRIME... AND THE SCHOOLS, and they go hand and hand. Get rid of the criminal element, and we'll clean up the schools. Cape's commercial industry keeps growing... Why has our population stayed relatively the same for years?
We need to be proactive and take a tough on crime approach. We'll never stop crime from happening, but we need to stand up as a public people and say..."It will not happen here!"
If you don't believe me go to www.city-data.com then click on Missouri and look at the crime statistics for cities about the size of Cape. In 2007 Cape's crime rate was 468.6 per 100,000 compared to a national average of 320.9 per 100,000. Not to mention that St. Louis and Memphis are at the top of the murder per capita list in the country. Guess who is directly in the middle of those two cities.
There are approximately 100,000 people per day working and shopping in Cape Girardeau and we have 74 police officers, and maybe only 10 or so working the street at any given time.
Do the math, it's just going to get worse.
Shame on those of you who have decided to turn this family inside out before they have even finished with the crime scene! The mothers age when she had her first child, the boyfriend, father, the murder/suicide comments. You all need to get down on your knees and pray for the family members. Don't forgot to pray that God would give you some human compassion that you are obviously lacking!
Every year around the holiday's homicide and suicide rate's increase. Look's to be starting early this year.
Pray for the family and friend's and pray to god it never happen's to your family.
triple homicide because she was expecting :(
on KFVS12 the neighbor said the woman was pregnant. If this is true, then it was a triple murder.
Those poor surving boys- I pray for them- it is sooo tragic. Makes me want to hug my teenager as soon as he gets home from school.
"Triple homicide if what the neighbor says is true."
In a short interview with KFVS, the neighbor said that "she was pregnant." Unconfirmed by any of the media or police at this point, but that is what Yankeestation is referencing.
Come on SEMissourian, it's pretty tacky that you have a "photo gallery" of the crime scene published but PLEASE have enough respect for the families of the victims to take the pictures of the bodies being taken out of the house out of the paper! I think if this was someone in your family, you would not want to see your loved ones body being taken out of the house in a bag!!
My condolences to the family and high hopes that the wackjob responsible is brought to justice, regardless of WHO it is.
goin_postal
I actually thought the same thing. It is so sad that they would put those pictures online. And some of the comments. I am very surprised that comments are still being allowed. This is a very sensitive subject and is addressed so nonchalantly. So sad that our society is so desensitized by our media and upbringing. I will be sure to pray for this family. God bless them.
mom4ever,
my comment was put out there when the story first broke that 2 were dead. I apologize that it offended anyone. That is not considered a bad neighborhood, and my question was asking if that was a murder-suicide. Obviously since then that question may have been answered. Again, my apologies.
Statesman,
Regarding your comment, "There are approximately 100,000 people per day working and shopping in Cape Girardeau and we have 74 police officers, and maybe only 10 or so working the street at any given time." - I think the police to population ratio is probably on the high side, and I'm not buying the 100,000 people coming to town every day. Look at downtown St. Louis - if 100,000 people came to downtown, that area would be paralyzed with traffic. On a good day, maybe 40,000 people come to watch a baseball game and about 40 people come to watch a Lambs football game.
Thank you Mom4Ever....couldn't have said it better
Unbelievable ! This is a nice neighborhhod!
Beaker,
I got my information on the 100,000 people "working" and shopping in Cape from the City of Cape Girardeau Website. Check www.cityofcapegirardeau.org and go to community profile.
Although I have to agree with you, I doubt everyday there are 100,000 people in this town, however, on some weekends there may be. Besides, if not 100,000 then maybe 70,000... my point is still the same. (Remember to count the universities 10,000 plus our already 35,000).
Also, 10 officers on the street per whatever number you come up with, to cover the total square mileage of the city is ridiculous, and 10 is at the high end, and at least one or two of the cops are supervisors. Think about the new subdivisions like Whispering Oaks, it's kind of out there.
10 officers may be enough to respond to calls, but that is all you'll get. No proactive patrolling, no further investigation unless the problem just gets way out of hand, (and the media gets involved, hence now). If all I needed when someone broke into my house was a cop to show up, then you're right, 10 is plenty.
Ask your police department how many officers are working the street, then ask them how many are just tasked out to write tickets. Then ask how many are responding to calls and looking for real criminals. You'd be surprised. The key number here is how many cops are doing police work out of the maybe 25 on duty, (10 on the street during day time hours), on a daily basis.
Its not the Cops fault. Look at how we spend our money to find fault.
Also regarding your statement about the sports games in STL. The city is already operating at a max capacity, adding 40,000 to it's roadways would be bottle-necking. Cape's maximum capacity is well above 35,000 people. The city is made that way because of the outside shoppers and workers that we get. We accomodate for outsiders in every way except policing.
I live close to this poor family who is going thru this. My question is, why is there a steady flow of traffic going by? What do people think they are going to SEE? There have been more cars driving on my road today than I have EVER seen in my life. Unbelievable!
I know the boy. The moms name is Jaime and his name was Derrick Orman. I went to high school with him. It's wierd to thinl I'll never see him in first hour anymore.
I am a close friend of the victims involved and their families and I have been in constant contact with them. For those of you who ASSUME that the victims ex husband was involved in this horrible crime, YOU ARE SADLY MISTAKEN. He is in NO WAY involved he loved her and he loves his kids and would never ever do anything to hurt them. HE IS NOT a suspect nor will he be in the future. Unless you were there or know one of the victims family members, DON'T ASSUME YOU KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON BECAUSE YOU DON'T. Please show these people the respect that they deserve at this very trying time. And for those who are showing their respect & giving prayers to the family, on their behalf I would like to thank you, as I know the family appreciates it. Please continue to pray for the emotional healing of the family.
I do feel for the family and wish them the best through these trying times. It is so sad to see something like this happen expecially to a kid. He was 15 he's a kid anyway, the life that was unborn now will not have a chance at life. Now to those who are always critical of the south for being full of crime, this unfortunately proved my point. Crime is all over this town. drugs and violent crimes are not just confined to that side of town. Now back to the family. I wish the family the best in efforts to recooperate. I know its hard to deal with but we will keep you guys in our hearts and prayers.
tinaincape...believe it or not many people have a morbid fascination in regards to crime scenes. They feel the need to drive or stop by. One of the most popular sights in New York City is Ground Zero. Nearly 3,000 people died in that small area, but the site is more popular today then when the buildings stood. People also like to gawk and drive out of their way to see a car wreck. Not saying they are right or wrong, it's just the way it is.
I know from personal experience how hurtful some of these comments are for the surviving family & friends of these victims. Trust me, when you're going through a murder investigation of a loved one & have to read comments that are so personal & such lies of the one you lost it hurts. Words can do so much damage in an already explosive & destructive environment. Please be respectful of this family & their friends as they try to come to some kind of understanding & come out of the shock of ths situation. My prayers are with all involved in this terrible loss!!
Sincere condolences to you angel45 and all of the rest of the family.
Dracomister7 you and your buddies at school hang in there and take care of his siblings when they return to school. They will need your support.
Now I have questions! Live in boyfriend, several months pregnant, three children attend Perry County schools. What were the children doing in Cape on a school night. How did the children get to Cape? Mother found in bed, son in the hallway, and the other two children elswhere in the house. This is strange.
Matt Sanders, that wasn't me who accused anyone!!! I was just questioning what happened to the comment, you idiot. Do a better job of reading! After all, this is your job, isn't it?
Please improve your method of discourse to be a bit more civil. Don't hurl insults or call people names.
undertow666, I NEVER posted a name and have no idea who was involved. If you can read, you will see that I questioned what happened to the comment with the name posted and stated that Matt Sanders removes a lot of things that don't necessarily fall into the category for omission.
Getting clearer. The victim was the live-in, her boy friend, and his ex-wife owns the house, and the house is part of the divorce settlement.
John Lawrence was the boyfriend this womand lived with. He was still married and according to case.net filed for divorce in June 2008 and the divorce is still ongoing and they even had a hearing today! Looked pretty nasty, 9 pages of docket entries, delays, etc.
the people that know the family, know who did it, for some reason they haven't released this info.
Crimes like this are so disturbing and inevitable in our era of people who think that the police can somehow prevent capital crimes from happening to you. Every family in America should take their own precautions to prevent this sort of thing from happening to them. In a time of recession it is more important than ever to protect yourselves by arming your family in your house. I feel fairly safe with my 2 loaded pistols hidden from view and yet accessible within seconds, then if we are attacked in our house, you will be reading about the dumb robber or rapist that met his doom at the hands of myself or my wife, who I trained for such an intervention and believe me when I say I will not shed one tear for the sorry person who enters my house uninvited. You people better get yourselves armed and protect your loved ones. You are the only ones who are responsible for your lives.
It appears that victim knew her murderer. Her live in boyfriend owned the house which also belonged to his estranged wife. Police do not believe it was a random crime. The victim's sister couldn't comment on if the victim had any problems with anyone. I'm sure this will be solved sooner than later. Condolences to the victim's family.
undertow666, I re-read your comment, as you should have re-read mine. Yours was so intelligent.
spooky, and the violation is what?
Whoever did this crime should pay dearly for it. To kill an unborn child, a young teenager, and a young woman is horrible enough, but these poor boys have to live with this every day for the rest of their lives knowing their mom, brother, & baby were killed in the same house with them.
No jail sentence would be good enough for the person who did this!
Thank you, Matt, for your apology, and the name calling, which was directed towards you, came after the false statement you made towards me. My apologies as well. I did not want to be connected with having accused anyone, and your comment then set up one from another person, which was very upsetting to me.
I am disgusted by the people who have jumped to conclusions,and the whole reason I wanted to know what happened to that comment was to call the person out who made it. I do understand why it was taken off, and thank you for doing so. Now, what is your reason for deleting the Jo Ann Emerson comment? It was purely observational albeit not to your liking.
BadMomma, we can only hope that once the person gets to jail, he will find that in the natural heirachy there, child killers are not given the best of treatment by fellow inmates. You are right, no amount jail sentence will seem harsh enough, but there is some sense of justice when you know that he will be made to suffer greatly while he's still alive.
When was the last double homicide in Cape?
-- Posted by Sam DeReign on Tue, Oct 27, 2009, at 8:44 AM
The only one I remember was on West end Blvd. A woman and son were killed. I was in the early 90's I think. I think it is still unsolved but I may be wrong.
At least we can be assured that when they find the scum that perpetrated this crime they will spend the rest of their life living a forced homosexual lifestyle with some scumbag that is incarcerated in one of Missouri's finest penal institutions and if we're lucky we will read that they were killed with a dull shank inside the prison doin their time.
There were multiple homicides on Henderson, Gary Roll killed 3 people. I believe.
Wiffle,
Was that the one where the kid was mentally handicap?
Yeah, the dope deal gone bad. I believe MR. Roll has already received the death penalty.
Why does why matter? innocent people were killed from a selfish rage that does none of us any good. Yet through our JUSTICES system they will live and feed off of all of us. Untill it happens to your family and your loss hits home, what right do any of you have to an opinion,
That was the Scheper family (Roll murders.) Such a tragedy.
Can't remember. The roll name sounds familiar but I thought it was on West end about 3 houses behind Arby's or Hardies whichever one was there.
pardon my english badmomma :u
The last murders that people are posting about committed by Gary Roll were three innocent FAMILY MEMBERS of mine, not a "dope deal gone bad"...please don't make comments you know nothing about.
I feel so bad for this family, and my thoughts and prayers go out to them. Such a sad tragedy.
Really? Don't try and reinvent history. The Roll gang was after drugs and drug money..............nuff said.
Roll was executed in 2000. Rather than having 100 comments about that case here, go read this: http://www.clarkprosecutor.org/html/deat... and your questions will be answered. Off-topic.
What a tragedy! My thoughts and prayers go out to all involved!
I used to live in Cape Girardeau. I was raised there and it saddens me to read stories such as this. My heart and my prayers go out to the family and friends of this little boy and his mother and I hope they catch the one who did this.
I thought it was determined that the Roll gang picked the wrong house.
It's be so long ago, maybe it was one of the accomplices that fingered the Scheper boy as a drug dealer not really knowing if he was or not.
I was thinking they found no drugs.
Either way all of this is off topic and another thread should be started.
Pray for this family. Think of how these boys will always remember their brother waking them up, hoping they could get him help to save his life.
Did I see a fire truck in one of the photos? If so, why?
Firetrucks I believe are also first responders. They are called on most things that come into 911 if i remember correctly. Most of them are paramedics as well so i think they are there for the purpose of healthcare to any potential victims.
Also my condolences to the family and friends of these victims. Terribly sad.
probably was not a fire truck. a lot of places use a truck as part of their emergency response team. these guys are usually paramedics who also could use their skills as fire responders too! many cities use this type of system today.
Cape and Jackson always send a fire truck as first reponders.
The pictures need to be removed!! SEMISSOURIAN should be ashamed of themselves for posting such horrid pictures of the victims while the family is in moarning so they can get more "hits" on their webpages! Have some dignity and respect for the passed and their friends and family for crying out loud!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm sure if the victims were members of the newspaper or newsstations family there wouldn't be pictures like this!! DELETE THEM!
Oh yeah, three innocent family members is right, except that they were robbed of a bunch of marajuana and money. Drug dealers and users of illegal drugs aren't quite what I would call innocent, not too much better than the scum that killed them. Anybody that uses or sells illegal drugs are scum buddy!
I personally think that the newspapers here in the U.S. censor the pictures of crime scenes too much. In many other countries they don't censor the pics at all and show the gore of bloody bodies on the front page. They know that if the people of the country see what a dead body really looks like, it will deter people from brutalizing each other. We in the U.S. are shielded from real life and death way too much. Show the people the reality of crime and not the fluff. When is the last time you saw a soldier bleeding and dying in Iraq or Afghanistan? Since you don't see it, it isn't real to you and you have no idea as a U.S. citizen what is going on over there. The same is true with crime over here. THe citizen is shielded from reality.
You sound very upstanding to me, LOL, err pathetic.
Being only a few houses away from where this took place my 12yr old daughter was scared to go to sleep last night.I had to keep telling her she was safe,and she said how do you know that.So I sure hope the party/parties are arrested soon.I can only imagine how the family feels.
mommymommy- totally agree.
All you have to do is read the 9 pages of the docket entries on the Lawrence ongoing divorce and it is obvious that someone was trying to drag out the divorce as lon as possible! After all- 16 months and still ongoing- pretty nasty!!!
Matt Sanders- I've given up on reading all of these comments, but in my opinion, if you've taken down comments which make accusations against individuals with no evidence, you should also take down comments containing speculation that this was a murder/suicide. Just because the person they are accusing is no longer living doesn't mean they are making an unfounded accusation, and I for one am shocked and offended by it. Just pointing that out.
How long before we know the names of those arrested?
The house is only 5 very short blocks from Capha Park. I allow my children to walk to the park. Of course I'm on the phone with them the entire walk. We are also only 5 small blocks from Campus. I love the location because of the convenience to the campus and central pool(which we love!) Beautiful pool in the summer. I'm trying to think this was a domestic situation so that I don't have to believe that there is a random cold blooded ruthless murder on the loose. I feel for this family. For Janie to starting a family at such an young age, it appears that her and her ex-husband did agree to do what was best for those 3 children. It's tragic to see how this turned out.
I keep seeing He and Him, describing the possible suspect. Could be the other gender...
so sad. the baby could have probably survived if medical care was reached soon enough. my heart goes out to the family.
mongengineer-and a couple other folks on here who think they know...what level of education do you have? Apparantly,not a whole lot. Your comments obviously show that. I'm sure you're a right-wing Rush Limbaugh Lovin' Know It All. Oh, that's right, Rush is an addict, so in your opinion, he is no better than a murderer?!!
Gary Roll and his teenage buddies killed three people for no reason...if you read the reports, they (the three murderers) stated that they left with a "small amount of marijuana and $200)-that in your opinion is worthy of a slaughter???!!! Get a life, and some education, buddy!
This is off the subject,and I apologize for that. I was simply stating that I feel very bad for the family of these recent victims,and have a sense of what they are going through. I hope they caught the people involved in this horrific tragedy.
I want to make a brief comment regarding the topic of Jamie's age when she had her boys. I was a classmate of Jamie's and I have to say was very shocked that she was choosing to become a mother at such a young age. I am a mother of two young boys at 30 and can tell you that it's quite a job sometimes and definitely one that I couldn't have handled as a teenager. But let's give credit where credit is due. Jamie chose life for those boys and that is commendable given her age and the sacrifices she had to make in becoming an adult way too early. She and Bruce raised those young boys to be good kids. They weren't trouble makers and I think a lot is to be said for that alone. The age that she chose to become a mother has absolutely nothing to do with this story and I find it repulsive that anyone would even comment on that.
I am happy to hear that arrests have been made. While this will only provide a small portion of comfort to their family and friends, I am truly grateful for the hard work of the first responders, police officers and the major case squad.
To the Orman family, you are in my thoughts and prayers.
why would anyone be so mean? i am her sister in law and that was my nephew who was takin from us monday night. does anyone have any idea what we are going through and then we come on here and see such rude and totally uncalled for comments? it just tears us up even more. jamie loved her kids, they were her life. if you cant have respect for my family in this tragic time of need, get off the page and stop worrying about it! for those of you with the nice one and keeping up in your prayers, please do. we thank you from the bottom of our hearts. right now our focus is on my other 2 nephews that need us the most...those 2 babies went through more than anyone should ever have to go through.
northmountain-maybe you should go with your children and see who else is at the park. every time i take my children i leave disgusted by the people there (some of them parents), their language and litter that covers the park. we hardly go there anymore. on more than one occasion i observed very small children on the playground with no supervision. just left out there...
i realize this comment is off the subject, my condolences to the family...
but i hope you have also noticed several crimes committed there just in recent months. i personally observed a public domestic disturbance there just weeks ago, and would not want my children to hear and see what i did.
If you read the story on stltoday.com, you will see in the comments section on who has been arrested.
What does being a right-winger have to to do with ones opionion about a sick murder. Rather your a right-winger or left-winger it's a horrible crime in our eyes. One does have a opinion and let me clue you in......Not all right-wingers agree. As I hope not all left-wingers agree. And when you have nothing educational to talk about.....yes bring up RUSH. That really works! NOT!! You apparently have never taken the time to listen if you are so quick to attack. Get off the political soap box and say a prayer for the family. And drop this nonsense.
latergator80. I do let them walk. Then I go in my car as they are walking and wait on them. I watch them from afar. Do things happen in at Capaha? Sure. But do they happen in other area's also. I would say yes. That family that was not a Capaha at the time of this tragic event, so lets pray for peace to the family.
Kristy, I have a 15 year old son, I live in the neighborhood, and on behalf of people too blind to see what they are doing to your family I apologize. Please know that there are so many people out here in the community that support your family, and pray for some form of relief and healing for you all.
i don't understand the murder charge for the baby when women get abortions everyday ...
*Rick*...maybe you're unaware but....Abortion-legal, Murder-not legal.
Stay classy Rick!