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Wednesday, October 7, 2009

Good change

THIS is for all the worry warts concerning the new trash pickup proposed for Cape Girardeau. I have used this type of trash pickup for over 20 years, and the carts are easy to push. They do not blow away. And they have more room than trash cans. The change would be a good thing.

Terrorism threat

I'M glad the United States did not get the Olympics. I can't believe at this time of international terrorism that we would even want the Olympics. I would think the risk would be too great, allowing hordes of people into our country.

Shot choice

IS anyone else tired of having a flu shot shoved down his throat against his will? I thought we lived in America. Now we have a choice -- a choice in health care provider and employer.

Burning fields

We've had beautiful fall days with clear blue skies. Can someone explain to me why some farmers still burn their fields, sending tons of ash into the sky and contributing to yellow haze and allergy problems? I'm sure many successful farmers don't burn their fields.

Government-run

I just spent 15 minutes watching my sons play out in our yard. Those 15 minutes were given to me by government-run health care. Thank you. Was I worried about letting the VA operate on me? Yes, I was terrified. But I'm alive -- I hope for a long time to come -- with the help of our government-run VA health care system. There have been a few mistakes along the way, but my treatment has been effective and thorough. I have been well-treated. My doctors have even called to check on me late on holiday weekends. They have been attentive and respectful. More importantly, I am alive and still Daddy, still husband and father, and very grateful to have that health care. Yes, it will be expensive, but so is the war that George Bush started. I seem to recall something about "the right to life." Have we abandoned our principles? I have not and will not.

Lacking logic

FOR the first time in the history of this country, our president has lobbied to bring the Olympics to his hometown. It is estimated that this cost the taxpayers a million dollars or more. But he failed. In the past he has gone to foreign countries and told them how bad this country is. If the country is as bad as he thinks it is, why would he think we deserve to have the Olympics here? This president seems bright when he makes a speech, but I think he is lacking when it comes to common sense and logic.

Preterm births

WHAT'S that about our health care system being the best in the world? That may be true for those who have access, but how does one explain that North America ranks second only to Africa in the number of preterm births?


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Good change: Agreed, not nearly as traumatic as some people feel - probably just some fear of change. I've lived where they collect garbage that way, and it is quite simple and easy. I use wheeled 65 gallon trash containers now, and they are easy to maneuver and handle.

Terrorism threat: Yeah, probably a good thing overall. The theatrics were pretty silly though.

Shot choice: The gov'ment knows best.

Government-run: Yes the VA is government run - kinda. Although there have been some horror stories about the VA, most are fairly satisfied with the benefit and the treatment. Keep in mind, however, that taking care of our veterans is a political hot button, and many an elected official are able to champion veteran care. I'm afraid that complete government control of everyone's health care will not track as well. And most of the government-run health programs are in serious financial crisis. We're probably talking apples and oranges here. And maybe another example of our worse health care being far better than that of other countries.

Lacking logic: Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Common sense and logic does not get one re-elected these days. Maybe we can change that. Hope?

Preterm births: Not sure what this even means. Most countries don't even attempt preterm births, and many that do classify the fatalities as miscarriages or some other cloudy category. Our health care system is the best in the world - for everybody, every class and foreigners who come here for treatment. If you make it to the hospital alive, chances are you will survive. That's another reason why the administration stopped saying 'health care' and changed their argument to 'health insurance'. Our shirt tail Congress just flaps in the breeze.

-- Posted by blogbudsman on Wed, Oct 7, 2009, at 6:50 AM

Re: Government-run

Those with access to the VA system PAID for that service at a price far greater than any amount of money. They sacrificed their time, and often times their blood serving this country fighting for our freedoms and caring for our military men and women SHOULD be top priority. This country owes them more than we can ever repay, and paying for their health care needs is a good start. Their blood is the price of the freedoms the rest of us enjoy.

However, those of us out here in the civilian world who have NEVER put on a uniform to serve our country, deserve no special treatment from the government. Using the VA system as a reason to include everyone in government run health care only cheapens your service...as it is no longer a special benefit you have as thanks for your sacrifices but rather just another budget item to run up the deficit and give the politicians more reasons to raise taxes beyond what we the people can afford to pay.

We have the right to Life, but the quality of that life is not guaranteed.

We also have the right to Liberty, of which this health care reform would severely trample. Liberty means not only the freedom to succeed and do well, but also the freedom to fail. Liberty means the right to decide for yourself whether you want insurance or not, the type of insurance you want, and what you are willing to pay for that insurance. This is NOT a power we the people yielded to the federal government anywhere in the Constitution.

The Pursuit of Happiness is also an inalienable right endowed upon us by our Creator. Notice this is not the right to BE happy, but rather the right to PURSUE happiness. If a big house and a fancy car make me happy, that is my right to pursue those. If having health insurance would make me happy, that is also my right to pursue. However, the government FORCING me to give up a portion of my earnings in order to MANDATE that I buy insurance that I don't even want, that infringes on my right to pursue happiness.

I have health insurance, which as a self employed person, I had to shop around for and buy with my own money...a policy that fits my wants and needs. It is a high-deductible policy with 100% of my medical costs coming out of my pocket until my deductible is met. It is there to protect my assets in the event of a major illness or injury...NOT to pay for my day-to-day medical needs. Because of that, it has a low monthly premium. Essentially, it is the type of plan the government wishes to legislate out of existence and if that happens, I'd rather take my chances without insurance than participate in any government run insurance options.

The more liberty we voluntarily yield to the government, the less freedom we have over our daily lives.

One more point:

Why is it that the alleged "right to choose" is only a Constitutional option if you are seeking to end an unborn child's God-given right to LIFE? Why shouldn't we the people have that SAME right to choose when it comes to our own health care needs?

-- Posted by dixietrucker on Wed, Oct 7, 2009, at 7:47 AM

Flu Shot:

Flu shot shoved down his throat? What does that even mean?

Where are they "forcing" people to take flu shots?

-- Posted by lumbrgfktr on Wed, Oct 7, 2009, at 8:35 AM

Many health care companies are requiring flu shots for their health workers as a condition of employment.

-- Posted by blogbudsman on Wed, Oct 7, 2009, at 8:54 AM

blogbudsman,

That not "forcing". Forcing would be to tie people down and give them a shot against their will.

The reason health care companies are doing this is for the safty of the patients. And its sad that so many health care workers are not more concerned and want to protect them as much as possible.

Lots of other organizations do things as condition of employment. My company drug tests. To be a fireman, you are required to meet certain physical requirements. Sure people protest, but its for the common good. If you are in a wreck and your car catches fire, you want a fireman that can pull you to safety.

-- Posted by lumbrgfktr on Wed, Oct 7, 2009, at 9:06 AM

Good morning! ☻

Looks like it got pretty hot & heavy up n here yesterday. Look, peps...this is the opinion page, everyone is entitled to their opinion & should fully expect to be challenged. Get over it. Say what you mean & mean what you say. ☻

Good change...iyiyi..trash again. I'm tellin' ya I have one of those BIG cans, it's fine, it's great, I love it.

Terrorism threat...the threat is there with or without the Olympics.

Shot choice...still on the fence.

Burning fields...it is my understanding this is done to help generate better crops for next year.

Government-run...good for you. ☻

Lacking logic...more griping. sheesh.

Preterm births...poor prenatal care perhaps. I believe this is a choice not a reflection of the health care system.

-- Posted by Turnip on Wed, Oct 7, 2009, at 9:18 AM

For the third time today.....regarding the President and the Olympics, I think the editorial cartoon at the top of today's opinion page just about says it all......

-- Posted by Raunchy on Wed, Oct 7, 2009, at 9:53 AM

re: shot choice

i agree with this one but probably for other reasons. sure right now it's all about hey there's this horrible flu that just magically mutated out of pigs and it will kill us all. hysterics ensue. but wait, our world govs have a solution for us, there's a vaccine for it. it will "save" us. then you have the european press reporting side effects of this vaccine. of course the US media won't expound on any of that. sure take it, it's safe.

then every other day or so there's a news article from someone in the gov "suggesting" the need to take the vaccine. today its from sebelius: http://apnews.myway.com/article/20091007...

eventually these "suggestions" will most likely roll over into mandates. sure, maybe not for this flu outbreak, this could just be the trial run.

-- Posted by TommyStix on Wed, Oct 7, 2009, at 10:01 AM

I am not sure what all the debate is about on flu shots. To work in a hospital, you have to have all kinds of vaccines including hepatitis and Tuberculosis. So why the debate on flu shots. But now all of a sudden, personal liberties are in danger? People can quit any time if they are so concerned about vaccines.

Not sure why you say the US media is ignoring it since you posted a US a link.

The government should be suggesting people get the vaccine. Should they suggest not getting it?

For us healthy people, the vaccine is not for us. In fact, if we get the H1N1, our bodies will fight it off and we will be sick for a few days. Not so for young children, adults, and those with medical conditions. So you get the shot to limit spreading it to them.

Not sure what you mean by mandate. But protest it when it happens.

As far as a correlation to Guillain-Barre syndrome, there has yet to be a proven connection. But 1 European in 30,000 vaccinations gets it and people are quick to jump to the conclusion that its the cause, which is more likely not to be true. Also, I remember reading a study one time that linked being struck by lightning to the flu shot. Because 1 or 2 people who received a vaccine were struck.

Actually, a more interesting case about government involvement in personal health choices might be this case:

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/21/us/21f...

-- Posted by lumbrgfktr on Wed, Oct 7, 2009, at 10:27 AM

anyone who had the Hong Kong flu in 1969 should be partially immune to the new H1N1 flu that is making the news ...this is why young people are more likely to get it..

-- Posted by ..Rick on Wed, Oct 7, 2009, at 10:44 AM

Sorry lumbrgfktr, I mistook your rhetorical question incorrectly. Didn't mean to trip your trigger.

-- Posted by blogbudsman on Wed, Oct 7, 2009, at 10:49 AM

Wheels

i'm with you...i don't intend to be a guinea pig either...

-- Posted by ..Rick on Wed, Oct 7, 2009, at 11:05 AM

Wheels,

The virus has been around a while, so its a bit different than most. But as far as the vaccines go, they pretty much have it nailed down. Its always a rush job for all vaccines.

I plan on getting the shot. I have an elderly grandma in an assited living facility and I am scared about possibly spreading it to her.

But if you have no interaction with high risk, are generally away from mass public and are reasonably healthy, then you should not get the shot.

-- Posted by lumbrgfktr on Wed, Oct 7, 2009, at 11:31 AM

Wheels,

how do you know they havn't?

-- Posted by lumbrgfktr on Wed, Oct 7, 2009, at 11:31 AM

My problem with this H1N1 flue vaccine is that it was a rush rush to get something out there to inject people with. Medical science works for years to find a cure for diseases and finally come up with a cure. But the H1N1 much touted epidemic, they can find a fix for overnight?

I do not intend taking the shot.

-- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Wed, Oct 7, 2009, at 11:01 AM

Every year a new vaccine is created/mixed to go along with that year's predicted flu. They don't work it for years.

-- Posted by concerned4all on Wed, Oct 7, 2009, at 11:40 AM

I usually get a flu shot every year.

I only had 1 problem my sophmore year in college.

I got the shot and a day later I got the flu.

But here is the kicker, did the shot make me sick, or is it coincidence. My girlfriend at the time also got sick at the same time I did and she did not get the shot.

-- Posted by lumbrgfktr on Wed, Oct 7, 2009, at 11:59 AM

lumbrgfktr,

A flu vaccine is a "dead" virus meant to intice your own natural defense system to build up antibodies to the particular flu strain. It takes about a week or so to build up the antibodies. If you got sick the next day it was due to already having been exposed to the flu and not the flu vaccine itself.

The nasal spray is a live but weakened virus. If you have respiratory problems the nasal vaccine is not for you.

-- Posted by shortwhitebaldguy on Wed, Oct 7, 2009, at 12:11 PM

H1N1 , or the swine flu , is an uncontrolable desire to f**k in the mud ...when i get these symptoms , i'll worry...

-- Posted by ..Rick on Wed, Oct 7, 2009, at 12:20 PM

Short,

Oh I agree.

The point I was illustrating (poorly I guess) is about how some people attribute everything to the vaccine. Becasue I got the flu had nothing to do with the shot. But others would say it is the cause. Kind of like the point I brought up earlier about being struck by lightning.

Rick,

Crap. I am already infected.

-- Posted by lumbrgfktr on Wed, Oct 7, 2009, at 12:31 PM

The H1N1 virus will mutate and evolve like any other. This vaccine may or may not protect you from whatever particular strain is being passed around at the time of infection. I will not be taking the shot, nor will my family.

I will take precautions, including taking additional Vitamin D. If I I catch the virus, it will build up my immunization system and I will be healthy enough to ward off the next inevitable strain.

Here is an article that I read that you may find interesting. It is a bit wordy though...

http://www.lewrockwell.com/miller/miller...

-- Posted by Lumpy on Wed, Oct 7, 2009, at 12:32 PM

Lot of fuzzy generalizations in that.

Its funny, for somebody who likes to questions the stats on others, he is all about providing vague stats.

For instance, he says vaccines had been implicated as the cause of autism. But yet provided not proof to back it up. Why, because there is none out there.

Now I have no problem with him discussing the potential of risk, but he needs to hold such accusations to the same standard as the CDC.

-- Posted by lumbrgfktr on Wed, Oct 7, 2009, at 1:11 PM

Lumber.

Back up. The reason people are scared is the increase of mercury being added this year. I know that you must be the smartest person on this board and you are certain there is no correlation between mercury and autism.

I beg to deffer. I am autistic so I do have SOME knowledge on the subject. It was determined in the sixties that was my case. My mother regretted ever letting me take anything with mercury but she didn't know along with all the other parents. Thank god mine was was mild.

Well the information is out there now so I would tell you to think about your children when you think you are the smartest person out there. You are taking a risk that nay show up 10 years later.

Read this before you stick foot so far in your mouth it comes out of your rear end.

http://www.lewrockwell.com/miller/miller...

-- Posted by Wiff on Wed, Oct 7, 2009, at 3:33 PM

Just something to look at. I am not agreeing or disagreeing with this article. Just something for you to view if you wish to about H1N1.

http://health.msn.com/health-topics/cold...

-- Posted by Pups on Wed, Oct 7, 2009, at 4:22 PM

Oh and isn't there a risk in taking any vaccine?? Thought that was always implied by the form you have to sign to take one. And not just flu shots, but any preventative innoculations(sp)such as those for measles, small pox (showing age here), polo (though this used to be done on sugar cube remember???), and even the malaria(sp) shots/pills I had to take overseas.

-- Posted by Pups on Wed, Oct 7, 2009, at 4:28 PM

Ok, need help as I am thinking about my last post. Was it the smallpox shot that gave me my scar on my upper arm????

-- Posted by Pups on Wed, Oct 7, 2009, at 4:30 PM

Pups,

Yep, that would be small pox.

-- Posted by Blackthorn on Wed, Oct 7, 2009, at 4:34 PM

Lumber,

And that is a good point. If you have had serious reactions you should not get the shot.

And nobody is denying there isn't any risk or that there are no side effects.

The issue I had with the report was where he got a little preachy and the stuff I mentioned.

-- Posted by lumbrgfktr on Wed, Oct 7, 2009, at 4:34 PM

Pups,

I think it was small pox.

But it's also a good point. When was the last time somebody came down with Polio or Small Pox?

Like I said, the shot isn't for your self. Its for those you come in contact with. if you are going to be around the high risk people, get the shot. IF not, you don't need it.

-- Posted by lumbrgfktr on Wed, Oct 7, 2009, at 4:38 PM

NoNameYet,

Thanks. I thought it was, but after saying it, I just wanted to make sure. I don't believe those that get it now get the 'reminder' some of us old folks get to have.

Mmmm Wheels, could that be the expired stamp you keep refering to??? Though not where you said it was. lol

-- Posted by Pups on Wed, Oct 7, 2009, at 4:41 PM

Pups,

Don't know about the younger folks; got mine from some guy named Hippocrates I think; used a thorn or Yak's tooth not sure.

-- Posted by Blackthorn on Wed, Oct 7, 2009, at 4:51 PM

Wheels,

Was just pointing out that with all vaccines/shot there are risks. But on a side note, viruses can not be killed just fought by the immune system if I understand correctly the difference between a virus (flu) and a disease such as Measles, Polio, and Small Pox.

Oh and your security is still in tact.

-- Posted by Pups on Wed, Oct 7, 2009, at 5:03 PM

NoNameYet,

Now that is funny. Thanks, the laugh was greatly appreciated.

-- Posted by Pups on Wed, Oct 7, 2009, at 5:05 PM

Lumber.

Back up. The reason people are scared is the increase of mercury being added this year. I know that you must be the smartest person on this board and you are certain there is no correlation between mercury and autism.

I beg to deffer. I am autistic so I do have SOME knowledge on the subject. It was determined in the sixties that was my case. My mother regretted ever letting me take anything with mercury but she didn't know along with all the other parents. Thank god mine was was mild.

Well the information is out there now so I would tell you to think about your children when you think you are the smartest person out there. You are taking a risk that nay show up 10 years later.

Read this before you stick foot so far in your mouth it comes out of your rear end.

http://www.lewrockwell.com/miller/miller...

-- Posted by Mr. Wiffle on Wed, Oct 7, 2009, at 3:33 PM

Mr. wiffle,

There is no "increase" in the mercury. And besides, there are also mercury free doses.

Second,

There has been no provable (or disprovable) evidence linking vaccanations with Autism. And I am not saying that people shouldn't be concerned or proceed with caution.

However, like I mentioned about the article, he was extremely critical of vaccination supported studies, yet was so eager to accept non-supported vaccination danger conclusions. Its his hypocrisy that I had issues with, not his content.

Also, I will do the research. But I will look at lots of different studies and not somebody with a bias or an agenda.

-- Posted by lumbrgfktr on Wed, Oct 7, 2009, at 5:20 PM

Melange

Are Small Pox and Measles viruses? Am I confusing the flu with a cold? I have been told that a cold can not be cured just treated/symptoms masked. Will check some things and get back to ya. Good to see you btw.

-- Posted by Pups on Wed, Oct 7, 2009, at 5:25 PM

Melange,

Ooops that didn't take long. I'm wrong and you are right. Small Pox and Measles are viruses.

One of these days I will learn. :)

-- Posted by Pups on Wed, Oct 7, 2009, at 5:27 PM

Terrorism Threat: Go hide under your bed.

Pre-term Births: We don't have the best healthcare in the world. That's a myth.

-- Posted by Ike on Wed, Oct 7, 2009, at 6:13 PM

please name a country that has better doctors then the USA...

-- Posted by ..Rick on Wed, Oct 7, 2009, at 6:30 PM

anyone know where to get one of those car starters that hangs on a keyring?

-- Posted by ..Rick on Wed, Oct 7, 2009, at 6:33 PM

Rick,

I believe Auto Trim Design installs remote starters.

-- Posted by Blackthorn on Wed, Oct 7, 2009, at 6:35 PM

i was gonna eat a couple of boiled hotdogs for lunch then go get my flue shot ...i forgot to turn the fire off of the hotdogs before i left and when i got home all i had were two pieces of charcoal in the pan ...

-- Posted by ..Rick on Wed, Oct 7, 2009, at 7:07 PM

Well gosh darn, Rick...you are lucky your house is still standing. btw, with all of your kitchen mishaps lately, I think you should stay out of the kitchen. ☻

-- Posted by Turnip on Wed, Oct 7, 2009, at 7:09 PM

Me'Lange

yes , greed would be an issue ...but so would be the chance to work with and use the latest scientific equipment ..

-- Posted by ..Rick on Wed, Oct 7, 2009, at 7:11 PM

Turnip

the ferkin' smoke alarm was beeping like crazy too..i ended up having to open all of the windows before the g'**** thing would shut off..

-- Posted by ..Rick on Wed, Oct 7, 2009, at 7:14 PM

i boil them until they split open then put cheese in the split ...

-- Posted by ..Rick on Wed, Oct 7, 2009, at 7:19 PM

Rick, it sounds like you had a hell of a day.....kick back & relax. Next time, try removing the batteries. ;o)

-- Posted by Turnip on Wed, Oct 7, 2009, at 7:20 PM

Here is the link about the increase of mercury given to pregnant women and children in Washington state. There are others.

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/he...

As a teenager I was all over the country getting tests. It was determined it was the mercury I was given during my childhood. I didn't show any signs until I was 8 years old. I know from self experience so don't even begin with the "I know better crap". Just take your whipping and set in the corner.

If you and your children are healthy I would opt out unless you are in a situation that would require it such as a care giver, work with patients, medical supply delivery, pharmacy worker, ect..

-- Posted by Wiff on Wed, Oct 7, 2009, at 7:23 PM

Mr Wiffle,

Was that a concession??????? :)

-- Posted by Pups on Wed, Oct 7, 2009, at 7:28 PM

anyone know where to get one of those car starters that hangs on a keyring?

-- Posted by *Rick* on Wed, Oct 7, 2009, at 6:33 PM

Are you talking about the key? :) Just messing with you. You kind of left it open,.

Trim line or stereo one. Both do a good job.

-- Posted by Wiff on Wed, Oct 7, 2009, at 7:31 PM

I wouldn't call it greed. Most Docs come to the US for a better life. They don't really make a lot compared to others. 200K to 400K is about average unless the have a hot specialty or start a large practice. It isn't worth the school and all the other hoops you have to jump through. A person the has the smarts and make the right decisions from high school up can make 500K in half the time. It's all in the planning and if you are intelligent..

Self employment is the real way to do it but people think the rich ones are lucky. Some hit a lick fast but other are married to their business 24/7 for 40 years to get there and sometimes still crash and burn in the end. It's a roll of the dice.

Do you really think someone will throw every thing on the line to make a working wage? I wouldn't put up with the hassles for it.

-- Posted by Wiff on Wed, Oct 7, 2009, at 7:54 PM

Mr Wiffle,

Was that a concession??????? :)

-- Posted by Pups on Wed, Oct 7, 2009, at 7:28 PM

No. I believe anyone that has a job that deals personally with high risk people should have the shot. Like my mother we are very careful not to go to her house when feeling bad.

Mom is careful. She takes the shot but also she goes to Wally World at 4:30 am when there are fewer people there and it has been cleaned during the night. She has her meds delivered instead of waiting at a place that has sick people waiting wit you.

She says she is too proud to use a drive thru at the pharmacy or the bank. She thinks it is for the lazy people.

-- Posted by Wiff on Wed, Oct 7, 2009, at 8:09 PM

Mr Wiffle,

Just giving you a hard time. Know things are not always black and white. (And yes I know what might be coming. LMAO)

Oh did you check out my Blue Hole comment?

-- Posted by Pups on Wed, Oct 7, 2009, at 8:23 PM

I saw it just now. Is that the one in the emails? That thing is spooky.

-- Posted by Wiff on Wed, Oct 7, 2009, at 8:46 PM

I don't know about any emails, but there is a video of a diver that died. It is a deceptive body of water from what I understand. It is apparently wider and deeper then divers seem to think. I have never actually been to that part of the Red Sea but from the pictures it is a very beautiful place.

-- Posted by Pups on Wed, Oct 7, 2009, at 8:58 PM

Oh and apparently the Red Sea is not the only place where a Blue Hole can be found.

-- Posted by Pups on Wed, Oct 7, 2009, at 9:54 PM

Oh and to finally be on topic. The 2002 Winter Olympics in Salt Lake City, Utah (you know, a city in the US.) didn't have a problem with security and the "hordes of people coming into our country".

-- Posted by Pups on Wed, Oct 7, 2009, at 10:01 PM

Ive seen the pics. I would love to dive it.

-- Posted by Wiff on Wed, Oct 7, 2009, at 10:11 PM

I have snokled in the Red Sea as a kid. Definately one of the best places to see a variety of fish, dolphins, and sharks. Unfortunately not near the Blue Hole. My trips to the Red Sea were at the southern end.

-- Posted by Pups on Wed, Oct 7, 2009, at 10:17 PM


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