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Speak Out 10/2/09

Friday, October 2, 2009

Do the research

I would like more answers to the proposed automatic trash pickup. We were told that the containers would be 64 gallons and 96 gallons, but how about the dimensions? What are the height and width of these cans? If they are too large, they might not fit through my 36-inch garage door. This city may wind up with a lot of unsightly trash receptacles in homeowners' yards. City leaders, have you thoroughly researched the negative as well as the positive aspect of this refuse plan?

Public option

I concur that we need a government-run option for health insurance. I work for a hospital and have insurance. I don't have a choice of providers. If a specialist I need is not available locally, I have a huge deductible. I'm not alone. Right now, most of the Medicaid patients and all of the Medicare patients have better coverage than I do. Medicare is public and seems to be working just fine. Give me a public option and the ability to buy a supplement like the Medicare supplement.

Giving credit

AFTER less than a year in office, President Obama seems to have reversed the worst economic recession of over a half-century. If this proves to be true -- and we should know with certainty by early next year -- will his critics acknowledge it?

Putrid yellow

WHEN it comes to intensity of color, it's the brightest of yellow journalism ever printed. The putrid piece published by the Southeast Missourian, written by a Russian professor and positing the break-up of the U.S. in 2010 (in part as a result of civil war) was the most pathetic piece of "journalism" ever to appear in a newspaper since William Randolph Hearst intentionally published untrue stories designed to stir up U.S. public opinion against Spain that sadly culminated in the unnecessary Spanish-American War.


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Public Option

Everyone ignorant human in the US is going to love Medicar, Medicaid, and Social Security right up to the point where they bankrupt the country with the 99 TRILLION in unfunded mandates they represent. So, let's add GRIP (Government Run Insurance Program) to speed up the bankruptcy process. Wait till they get you in their GRIP!

Giving Credit

Will Obama, Dems, and Neo-Comms take credit for creating the recession with their socialist policies, suits against the banking industry to force irresponsible lending, corrupt relationships w/ Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, and tax and spend policies which will double the national debt?

-- Posted by bebo on Fri, Oct 2, 2009, at 6:05 AM

We were heading into recession during W's term before Obama took office. The big expenditures fighting an needless war in Iraq had lots to do with the spending. At end of Clinton's tenure we had a huge surplus. W's bring-em-on took us down.

-- Posted by Dexterite1 on Fri, Oct 2, 2009, at 6:16 AM

Public option: Let me understand. You work for a hospital and have insurance. You don't have a choice of providers. You have a deductible. So, the company you work for provides you with health insurance. Through that policy they have negotiated group benefits at group costs that they pass mostly on to their customers. Your plan has a deductible causing you do contribute some to the cost of treatment. Something like 99% of the 85% of the people who are fortunate to have a similar coverage are at least a little grateful. And you think Medicare is working just fine. Something tells me if you aren't reasonably satisfied now, nothing will satisfy you. And certainly not the shipwreck the gov'ment is calling a 'public option'. Sheesh.

Giving credit: In all fairness, presidents are almost never responsible for causing recessions and are even less responsible for reversing them. Almost none of the spending that Congress has pushed through has taken effect - they don't want the horrible deficits they are causing to be apparent until after they get re-elected. President Obama in his less than eight months in office is in danger of earning the reputation as the least popular president ever, making uninformed and incompetent decisions that are quickly damaging our national finances, our national defense, emboldening our enemies and losing the respect of our allies. His critics, as you say, are the American people that have awoken to his poor leadership and are sending strong messaged to their elected officials to stand strong or risk being voted out of office in the next elections.

-- Posted by blogbudsman on Fri, Oct 2, 2009, at 6:17 AM

Me'Lange

when did the city of Cape switch over to the new trash collection system ?

those dimensions you gave , are you building an ark ?

-- Posted by ..Rick on Fri, Oct 2, 2009, at 6:43 AM

Public option: If you don't like the health insurance plan your employer provides you for free why don't you choose a private plan with what you want and pay for it all out of your own pocket.

-- Posted by newman90 on Fri, Oct 2, 2009, at 8:19 AM

Giving Credit...

Way to eartly to be jumping to such conclusions

Dexterite....

Yes, we had a budget surplus after clinton, but also 9-11 had a huge financial impact on the first bush term.

Bebo...

So republicans were in control of congress and the president office for the last 8 years...but its the democrats fault we are in a recession? Also the tax and spend poicies of Clinton actually created a budget surplus. However, I must point out that in terms of spending Clinton wasn't your normal spending democrat and Bush was by far not a fiscal conservative.

Blogsbudsman...

Also, i think the hospitals are self insured, so they really don't negotiate like other business. And it seems the people that work at the hospitls don't realize how cheap their insurance is. I remember a friend of mine complianing that his insurance went up to like $40 a month. That was a couple of years ago, but still.

-- Posted by lumbrgfktr on Fri, Oct 2, 2009, at 9:01 AM

Public option...why do you think the government should be responsible for providing your healthcare? Why.

Giving credit...he has more than doubled the deficit in 9 months - on his watch, on his own. Keep your blinders on, that is what he is counting on.

-- Posted by Hawker on Fri, Oct 2, 2009, at 9:07 AM

Clinton balanced the budget only after the Republicans forced him to thru the Contract With America Republican landslide.

However, he balanced the budget by selling off many federal government assets including the Elk Hills Oil Reserve for 3.65 Billion dollars.

Also, we do not want to forget the 1997 tax cuts he was forced by a Republican controlled Congress to sign into law.

Perhaps privatizing government assets and tax cuts were primary variables of stimulating the economy in the 90's.

Lest we also forget, during the last two years of the Bush term, The big spending Dems were in control of Congress. We can not only blame Bush for the recession.

JUST FOOD FOR THOUGHT

-- Posted by Balmy on Fri, Oct 2, 2009, at 10:03 AM

Balmy,

Good Point.

Hawker,

I am not for a public option. But I am willing to listen. There isn't 1 problem with the cost of health care, there are many so its not easy to fix. I am all for reform, but seeing how nothing has happened the last 12 years in forms of reform, I don't think reform is possible.

I think in our country, it PRODUCTIVE citizens should have access to healthcare. I think every child under the age of 18 should have access (deffered if attending college or trade school).

I also think medicaid needs reform. Make that an affordable, not cheap, option. Make it a sliding scale based on salary. People can opt out, but if they do they get NO coverage. To be eligable for the program, you must work at least 32 hours a week.

-- Posted by lumbrgfktr on Fri, Oct 2, 2009, at 11:20 AM

Wheels,

I don't have much faith in the IOC, but thankfully they aren't paying any attention to the entreaties from any of the various heads of state from all countries.

Unrelated, I just heard the NAACP has arrived with concerns over the incident in south Cape this week.

-- Posted by Blackthorn on Fri, Oct 2, 2009, at 11:37 AM

Wheels,

It is on You Tube and of course was on Fox.

Anytime you escalate force and deploy a weapon such as a Taser, ASP or so on in a crowd situation, you run the risk of losing control of it, so I guess it was a judgment call.

-- Posted by Blackthorn on Fri, Oct 2, 2009, at 12:05 PM

wheels,

Not sure where you got your information because its pretty much BS.

Rio has actually been the favorite for quite some time becasue South America has never hosted an Olympic Games.

It's interesting how much people can lose perspective.

-- Posted by lumbrgfktr on Fri, Oct 2, 2009, at 12:24 PM

If NAACP is getting involved in Tuesday's Tiny Riot, it's probably so they can teach all those involved the benefits of acceptable personal conduct, encourage them to get jobs and/or stay in school, and in general ADVANCE themselves and their futures as Americans.

Or perhaps the word'Advancement' has lost its meaning somewhere along the way ... maybe it was changed to 'Attitude' or something?

-- Posted by gurusmom on Fri, Oct 2, 2009, at 12:24 PM

Pops and I heard the same thing yesterday or the day before, Wheels ... and believe I saw an on-line mention of it, but ...

...didn't pay much attention to who was discussing it because I really wasn't that interested ... Just that Pops wanted to rib me over the flights and whatever it was about Mrs. Obama going over there ...

-- Posted by gurusmom on Fri, Oct 2, 2009, at 12:33 PM

Gurusmom,

I am afraid it is all going to be blown out of proportion.

There were residents who were trying to calm things down, but the troublemakers are getting all of the attention.

-- Posted by Blackthorn on Fri, Oct 2, 2009, at 12:47 PM

Good afternoon! ☻

Dog & pony show...funny, funny. I have to admit the whole thing was ridiculous. ☻

putrid yellow, eh? lol!

-- Posted by Turnip on Fri, Oct 2, 2009, at 12:51 PM

i saw the POTUS do a TV commercial for George Lopez's late night show...i lose more respect for the POTUS everytime i see him doing stuff like this instead of concentrating on urgent issues we face as a nation...

-- Posted by ..Rick on Fri, Oct 2, 2009, at 1:20 PM

Wheels,

No saying you didn't hear it. Saying the people who were discussing it were full of it.

Because we didn't get the olympics we are ridiculed? Seriously? How will we survive the stain of not having the olympics. I hope we can get past such an embarrasement.

All I am asking is that you just use some logic when you hear, or read things.

Seriously, if it is such an embarrasement to send your president to the committee, why does every country do it?

-- Posted by lumbrgfktr on Fri, Oct 2, 2009, at 1:29 PM

Wheels

i gotta wonder..is he a celebrity or the leader of the greatest nation on earth ? if he gets re-elected in 2012 , it would be a sad day in our history..IMHO

-- Posted by ..Rick on Fri, Oct 2, 2009, at 1:31 PM

Rick, Obama was in a COMMERCIAL? I need to find a cave somewhere to hibernate in for a few years ... having a hard time with this Embarrassment Issue of mine.

Um ... lumb ... "Not sure where you got your information because its pretty much BS." Didn't seem to be mentioned as "information" ... 'Talking Heads' pretty much suggests personal opinion or speculation ...

It's okay for the President to support strong environmental issues while (like Gore) jetting around the world ... and didn't Mrs. go over in a different plane (like the trip to France was it?) ... or was that my imagination?

Probably wasn't paying as much attention in the past, but seems like Obama spends more time traveling and visiting and chatting and being 'chummy' than past presidents did ... sort of an 'I'm just one of you' persona? That worked well during his campaign, but it's like he's still campaigning. So ... who's actually 'minding the store' now? Ah ... he's presiding over America by telephone and the internet probably.

-- Posted by gurusmom on Fri, Oct 2, 2009, at 2:05 PM

Wheels,

I didn't vote for Obama either, but in all honesty I am not sure McCain would have been any better, just different. We have survived some pretty poor presidents and I am sure we can again if the Obama presidency proves to be a poor one.

-- Posted by Blackthorn on Fri, Oct 2, 2009, at 2:13 PM

Wheels,

Just FYI, the flight to Copenhagen takes about eight hours, so at a cost of $56,518 per hour (according to a 2006 report) to fly Air Force One, the cost to taxpayers for this trip is roughly ..................$904,288.

Since Michelle Obama is traveling separately, she has separate costs...

Shoot, that ain't nothing. I could earn that in say, oh, 30+ years.

-- Posted by SpankTheTank on Fri, Oct 2, 2009, at 2:18 PM

Aw, I love it when people question other people's logic, or judgment, or motives, or ... Never look into oneself, hmm? But okay ... I'm fairly certain I've been guilty of the same sort of finger pointing ... at least about my logic versus someone else's logic.

-- Posted by gurusmom on Fri, Oct 2, 2009, at 2:21 PM

Ah well, Spank ... What's a couple million in the whole scheme of things, right? And I used to think spending $1,000 on a vacation was a little over-the-top ...

Thanks, Wheels ... At least someone is smiling down upon me ...

-- Posted by gurusmom on Fri, Oct 2, 2009, at 2:30 PM

In regards to the hospital worker and their health care costs I want to say I understand your feelings. I worked for a hospital for over 20 years and our insurance was about 30.00 a month lower than what I could have bought on my own.

I had a $1500.00 deductible, copays to see one of the hospital docs, and no drug coverage. Every year our costs would go up and we would get less coverage. They were self insured and the company I know work for is self insured and my health insurance is cheaper and a whole lot better. I no longer work in health care and it is the best move I have made. Too much politics involved in health care.

Also, i think the hospitals are self insured, so they really don't negotiate like other business. And it seems the people that work at the hospitls don't realize how cheap their insurance is. I remember a friend of mine complianing that his insurance went up to like $40 a month. That was a couple of years ago, but still.

-- Posted by lumbrgfktr on Fri, Oct 2, 2009, at 9:01 AM

They do negotiate. I saw a bill where they took off over 8,000 dollars on a 11,000 bill. The insurance company paid less than the patient. If you have no insurance they will charge less also. Also my premiums where almost 500.00 a month and I made less than 10.00 a hour after all that time working there.

-- Posted by mightymo on Fri, Oct 2, 2009, at 2:31 PM

Wheels,

I was kind of left out in the cold on this one as I didn't care much for Ron Paul either.

You're right about the two party system and I will give serious consideration to candidates beyond Democrat and Republican the next cycle and if I don't like any, I may not vote.

-- Posted by Blackthorn on Fri, Oct 2, 2009, at 2:47 PM

Wheels,

I seen this and thought I'd pass it on. I know it's something you couldn't live without.

Mom will probably want one, too.

http://www.drugstore.com/products/prod.a...

-- Posted by SpankTheTank on Fri, Oct 2, 2009, at 2:50 PM

i voted for McCain...not because i liked him but to vote against Obama who i feel is stuck in the campaign mode ...

-- Posted by ..Rick on Fri, Oct 2, 2009, at 2:59 PM

Mentioned this to Pops, Spank. It might be appropriate for me to have one because the ONE someone gave me a few years ago was a complete failure ... Very little 'growth' and what there was, the cat chewed off.

After Pops said we'd better order half a dozen of them for Christmas gifts, he said ...

"... this all just illustrates that you women should listen to your 'old men,' because we always know what is right and best."

He suggested you guys should print that out and give it to your wives.

That should get some interesting conversations going in your homes ...

-- Posted by gurusmom on Fri, Oct 2, 2009, at 3:09 PM

Obama is working to make Sarah Palin look really good to some of her biggest detractors. :-)

-- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Fri, Oct 2, 2009, at 3:01 PM

Ummm ... Not to me ... I try hard not to compound a mistake by making another one. ~wink~

-- Posted by gurusmom on Fri, Oct 2, 2009, at 3:15 PM

Go Pops Go! Sounds like you are feeling better.

-- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Fri, Oct 2, 2009, at 3:12 PM

Now Pops is worried that by the end of the day, he'll have a yardful of women picketing ... He's so full of it sometimes ... And yes, feeling much better! Due of course to expert nursing, coddling, babying ... ~laughing~

-- Posted by gurusmom on Fri, Oct 2, 2009, at 3:19 PM

gurusmom,

Get Pops a Chia Obama. He'll be so happy, he'll be in the front yard doing cartwheels.

-- Posted by SpankTheTank on Fri, Oct 2, 2009, at 3:31 PM

Have Wheels,

Why are you all over the place in your argument.

Address what I called you out on. First, we were talking about how the US is embarrassed in front of the world because we did not get a bid. Second, the President was only going because he knew we were going to get.

That is what I called you out on. Please quit trying to change the argument and try to defend your stance.

Now, if you actually want to discuss the value of hosting the olympics, or if him going was worth it, those are different issues. One of which I am frankly on the fence.

As we have seen by crowd actions at cubs and White Sox games, not sure if that is very good representation as sports fans.

All 3 countries had their president's in attencance.

-- Posted by lumbrgfktr on Fri, Oct 2, 2009, at 3:39 PM

Again,

Why do people have to put logic aside when talking about politics.

Is the cost of presidentral travel really an issue to you? If it trully is, then say so. Don't say Obama spent X nubmer of dollars on this trip becasue as far as I know, he is not the first president to ever travel.

Say, why is it we as Tax payers have to spend X amount of money when he travels?

But of couse, you people don't really care about Presidental Travel do you?

-- Posted by lumbrgfktr on Fri, Oct 2, 2009, at 3:44 PM

Wheels,

great photo.

-- Posted by lumbrgfktr on Fri, Oct 2, 2009, at 3:44 PM

Wheels,

Agree on Ron Paul. But it could have been worse also. Could have had Hillary.

But admit it, A Obama/McCain election was a better match up than Kerry/Bush.

-- Posted by lumbrgfktr on Fri, Oct 2, 2009, at 3:47 PM

Mighty Mo,

As far as negotiatie, I didn't mean with the patient but rather an insurance provider.

Basicly, If you own a business, you have to negotiate with the Insurance company for insurance.

The hosptials basicly don't do that, instead opting to avoid the middle man and make themselves the required provider and eating the cost of treatments instead of billing an insurance company.

-- Posted by lumbrgfktr on Fri, Oct 2, 2009, at 3:50 PM

Wheels,

Thanks for the link.

However, it still does nothing to validate your point about how we are ridiculed by the world or how the President only went becasue he thought he would win.

Actually, even in the link you provided it says Rio was the favorite.

-- Posted by lumbrgfktr on Fri, Oct 2, 2009, at 3:52 PM

But of course, you people don't really care about Presidental Travel do you?

-- Posted by lumbrgfktr on Fri, Oct 2, 2009, at 3:44 PM

I do. When it cost over $56,000.00 an hour to be-bop around the world for a photo-op? **** right I care. Him and the wife can't fly in the same **** plane?

From some of the stuff I've read, some of the folks on the committee felt disrespected. He walks in all high and almighty, sits for an hour, and can't wait to get back on his plane and leave. I'd feel disrespected, too.

He's not the Messiah people.

-- Posted by SpankTheTank on Fri, Oct 2, 2009, at 4:07 PM

Spank,

It was hardly a photo op.

I do agree that he needed to be there more than 2 hours.

As far as the IOC being disrespected, who cares what they thank. They are the most corrupt organizations out there. They should be honored that the President of this country spent that much time with them.

From their treatment of Lance Armstrong, to the bribing scandals, they are not a very reputable organization.

-- Posted by lumbrgfktr on Fri, Oct 2, 2009, at 4:14 PM

Uh oh ... I'm in trouble if we all have to defend our stances on SO!

"... the thing he liked most about Palin was that she had the power to irrate all of the right people." Thanks Wheels ... I know I'm one of the 'right people' ... much of the time! I'm NOT going to wink, either!

SIGH! A few of those on your list seemed to like me before they realized I'm not necessarily a 'stand by your man' woman if/when I believe he's wrong. Uh oh ... recalling when Hillary sort of chastised Tammy Wynette for that ... then turned around and stood by her own man. Of course, that made some sense due to her political aspirations, but I have no such excuse in this case ... unless Obama wants to hire me on as his Housekeeping Czar or something ... Oops, not that ... he probably wouldn't approve of my political housekeeping. ~laughing~

BTW: I'm taking the Day Off. Try to do that every six or eight months ... Pops already owes me 630 days of vacation, not including sick days.

-- Posted by gurusmom on Fri, Oct 2, 2009, at 4:19 PM

My original point was, in all of his arrogance, Obama at our expense flies over to clinch the Olympics for Chicago. He burned political capital and he failed, not to mention the fuel he burned. If there is any embarrassment over anything, Obama is who we should be embarrassed by. The article I posted a link to spells it out in the last half.

Try reading it!

-- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Fri, Oct

Actually Wheels, I have no problem with that statement. You actually bring uo some really interesting points.

I just get tired of endless bickering from both democrat and republicans who can focus on just the facts.

If you want to call out Obama, this is the way do it with well constructed criticism. In fact, any democrats on here (and lets admit there are very few), would have a hard time defending his actions.

However, going back to your comment earlier is that it just made no sence and distracts from the real issue (like the one you posted).

What is sad is that real problems and issues (like what you posted a moment ago) never get addressed becasue because of all the BS Rhetoric that floats around.

So basicly, lets hold Obama accountable (and any politician) for their action or innaction and not snide remarks or innacurate saracasm.

So, criticising his trip should include what you mention. But basicly, it is even more simple. Why did he go in the first place? Everybody knew Rio was going to get it. It was a wasted trip. There was no way the IOC was going to give it to Chicago becasue he showed up. So like spank said, its pointless wasted money.

-- Posted by lumbrgfktr on Fri, Oct 2, 2009, at 4:28 PM

those stricken with an internet addiction disorder, would you please shut up and get a life, already? :0)

-- Posted by ho ho ho on Fri, Oct 2, 2009, at 4:28 PM

Have Wheels,

Strong Union? Is there a weak one?

If so, please let me know. Maybe I could modify some managerial techniques.

I don't mean to rip on all unions, but the entitlement of some members is just frustrating. And what is more frurtrating is how they rally around the weakest links.

-- Posted by lumbrgfktr on Fri, Oct 2, 2009, at 4:32 PM

"As far as the IOC being disrespected, who cares what they thank. They are the most corrupt organizations out there. They should be honored that the President of this country spent that much time with them."

Good point...Why did he go? As far as IOC being corrupt, if you have a dog in the fight, you aren't allowed to vote.

And, they should be "honored"! Another Obama star gazer. He' just a man, people. He's not going to save the world. He can't sit still long enough to run this country.

-- Posted by SpankTheTank on Fri, Oct 2, 2009, at 4:39 PM

lumbrgfktr...Until tort reform and interstate competition is on the table, healthcare will never be made affordable, and the costs will never decrease.

-- Posted by Hawker on Fri, Oct 2, 2009, at 4:50 PM

A 36" garage door? I"m not sure I could even get my Harley in that garage!

-- Posted by voyager on Fri, Oct 2, 2009, at 4:55 PM

630 days of accumulated vacation. You must belong to a strong union.

-- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Fri, Oct 2, 2009, at 4:27 PM

I do! However, the dues are pretty steep ... It's a private union (I'm the only member so far) modeled after several governmental agencies' vacation/sick policies ... Four weeks' vacation after ten years service, etc.

Stop hanging out on the internet reading if it bothers you, get-a-life? ~laughing~

-- Posted by gurusmom on Fri, Oct 2, 2009, at 5:21 PM

Hadn't caught that, voyager! Exterior house doors are generally 36" ... hmmm ...

-- Posted by gurusmom on Fri, Oct 2, 2009, at 5:22 PM

Wheels: You want to throw stones..that's fine with me. I may be mistaken, but i think the Iraq war cost something in excess of $5,000 per hour. I'm sure one of you will correct me. Talk about a waste of money.

-- Posted by howdydoody on Fri, Oct 2, 2009, at 6:44 PM

Correction: That should be $5,ooo per minute.

-- Posted by howdydoody on Fri, Oct 2, 2009, at 6:45 PM

the fall of Iraq may have been an error ...but the POTUS wasn't on the TV doing commercials for late night shows and he wasn't a member of the jet set either ....

-- Posted by ..Rick on Fri, Oct 2, 2009, at 7:07 PM

You might want to read the story at the above link to find what the World and the Olympic Committee really thought of the US President and his appearance to pitch Chicago.

-- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Fri, Oct 2, 2009, at 3:10 PM

You are right wheels. This was a PR nightmare. He wanted the Olympics to go to a state that was so illfinanced that one of its counties had it's sheriff's cars repossessed. Not to mention the just the problems of Chicago itself. 50 million they didn't have is down the drain.

Yes the CBS morning crew said yesterday it would be in the bag since BO and Oprah would be there. I knew better. Now we are hearing the whining from them that their two biggest stars BO and Oprah blew it.

We just showed our greed (the thing democrats hate) by wanting another after we just had them in 96. There's a lot of other country's out there. We can't afford it.

Don't worry about Lumber. Howdy/meg called me un american and that I would like to see us attacked so BO would have to take the rap.

-- Posted by Wiff on Fri, Oct 2, 2009, at 8:52 PM

Rick

It's time for us to consider our donations this year. After hearing about the Salvation Army the wife wanted to know if soomeone else did. She and I are pretty P'd off about you being turned away.

-- Posted by Wiff on Fri, Oct 2, 2009, at 8:56 PM

What is truly interesting is how you talk down to people and seem to consider yourself the final word on here.

-- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Fri, Oct 2, 2009, at 12:45 PM

I'm sorry Wheels. Is someone trying to take over your position?

And that is too funny....

-- Posted by Theorist on Fri, Oct 2, 2009, at 9:49 PM

When you walk into a booth to vote for a politician, you are as corrupt as the one that is chosen.

....

The bad thing about dying is the pain that is felt by those who knew you.

I lived my life in a manner that reduces that pain.

-- Posted by BCStoned on Fri, Oct 2, 2009, at 11:21 PM

Wheels,

I ain't gonna croak, as far as I know.

Advice from the BC Rock; There are few things that we owe to ourselves, and one is insanity.

Normally, the BC Rock reporter doesn't like to take credit for anything, it might blemish his world fame.

-- Posted by BCStoned on Sat, Oct 3, 2009, at 8:23 AM

If anyone is interested, and I'm sure that you are not, I have posted a couple of blogs in the past two weeks. They are mostly rambling, pointless diatribes, and I am very ashamed of them. However, I can, so I did.

-- Posted by Lumpy on Sat, Oct 3, 2009, at 9:38 AM

who won?

-- Posted by ..Rick on Sat, Oct 3, 2009, at 9:39 AM

Re: Do the research

Typical kitchen-sized trash bag - 13 gallons = 1.7 cubic feet

30 gallon trash container = approximately 4 cubic feet

64 gallon trash container = approx. 8.5 cubic feet

96 gallon trash container = approx. 12.8 cubic feet

If size does truly matter, as it appears to for many - perhaps offer the 30- or 35-gallon size for those smaller households that don't generate the amount of trash, or perhaps for the larger households that may need a second container, but not a whole 'nuther full-sized one.

Going one step further - perhaps offer the three sizes (petite, average, and jumbo) for both trash and recyclables, with color coding being the key as to the type of refuse. This step may also go a ways towards the efficiency of pick-up that is sought - the user would request the size needed so that just one 'position-n-pick' at each stop is achieved, working towards keeping the operating costs of such a system as low as possible, while also offering the end user the ability to choose the size that best fits their lifestyle and available storage space. One of the problems here is that many end users won't make the right choice, but at least they would have their chance.

If such an offering was made, then suggest it would be reasonable to modify charges appropriately, making for a level of fairness based on potential usage. Such a cost structure could offer a savings opportunity for those who generate lesser amounts of trash - either by normal daily lifestyles or through efforts to reduce or to better compact waste output as a vehicle towards saving some cash. One of the downsides would be more types of containers to administer and to handle. Another potential downside would be the cases of those who get the smaller containers, then intentionally overfill them - making for a difficult and unstable pick-up and possibly resulting in trash blowing all over the neighborhood - making for a potential rule that "if your lid ain't closed, your trash pick-up is hosed".

A good portion of the measure of success for such a program will be the end users' cumulative satisfaction. Given the level of chatter, may be worthwhile to re-evaluate the current proposal. Maybe something could be worked out, or maybe the dollar savings of the current proposal override the additional costs of any options - at least worth a look with a response.

Ahhh, what a bargain - a penny for my thoughts, and my two cents' worth in return. :-)~

-- Posted by fxpwt on Sat, Oct 3, 2009, at 11:00 AM

I lived my life in a manner that reduces that pain.

-- Posted by James Nall on Fri, Oct 2, 2009, at 11:21 PM

Pretty good.

-- Posted by Wiff on Sat, Oct 3, 2009, at 11:01 AM

Rick, I give....who played?

-- Posted by Turnip on Sat, Oct 3, 2009, at 1:04 PM


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