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Speak Out 8/28/09

Friday, August 28, 2009

4-H leaders

IN response to the story "Cape County 4-H Achievement Day and County Fair": The children did a great job with the variety of items submitted. There is indeed much talent seen in these young leaders. Sharing their talents is a learning experience for them and their peers.

Lower rates

BANKS should lower home mortgage rates and pass along the lower rates they are paying to consumers. Do something to help people.

Red-tape medicine

I work in health care. The red tape and bureaucracy from Medicare is unbelievable. Medicare will deny a claim because it deems the treatment was unnecessary even if the patient's doctor believes it was medically necessary. This is a preview of how a national health care plan, administrated by the federal government, would treat all of us. The doctor's decision-making authority would be taken away. The doctor would have to treat based on guidelines set forth by a bureaucrat hundreds of miles away. Is this what you really want?

Stray dogs

MY outside dog was attacked by a big white stray dog. Scott City needs a dogcatcher to pick up all the strays. What if that dog had attacked a child?

Cash for Clunkers

THE Cash for Clunkers program seemed like a good idea in the beginning. Then some dealers started adding thousands of dollars to the sticker prices of new cars. How could they do this when the price of the car was clearly printed on the sticker?

Affordable care

ACCORDING to the Center for Responsive Politics, a nonpartisan group that tracks campaign contributions and lobbying expenditures, the pharmaceutical and health insurance industries have spent $1.38 billion since 2007 lobbying against a public-option health plan. Is it any wonder that we are getting so many negative responses against our right to public health care? I just turned 65 and signed up for Medicare. It will save me just over $10,000 a year in insurance premiums.

Better stewards

CAP and trade, a carbon tax or whatever you want to call it is coming and is necessary to cut down on pollution. Previous generations didn't think much about being good caretakers of our planet. Now, we have to, or we'll destroy it. Be a good citizen and quit carping and complaining about it.

Poor outcomes

FAR and away, we have the most expensive health care system in the industrialized world. However, except for the wealthy who can afford it, our outcomes on most leading health indicators are relatively poor. Morally speaking, we should be ashamed of our health care system.

USPS requirement

THERE have been several comments about the mailboxes in the sidewalks being built along Mount Auburn Road. The U.S. Postal Service requires a specific setback from the curb. That's why the mailboxes are where they are. The sidewalks still have plenty of room for pedestrians.

Emotion triumphs

WHY are Republicans winning on their attempt to stop any and all health care reform? They know that emotion triumphs reason every time. "Death panels" gets one's attention more than professorial discussions about cost savings, even though the death panel diatribes are dumb. It resonates with the gut.

Timely moral issue

DR. Linda Farley quit her job as emeritus professor in the Department of Family Medicine at the University of Wisconsin. She volunteered full time at a community health center for the homeless. She said, "The uninsured die because they don't have health insurance." The Bible has 3,000 references to helping the poor and one that says if you don't work, you don't eat. The score seems to be 3,000 to 1. That's why health care is the moral issue of our times.

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Lower rates: no they shouldn't. That's what got us into this mess in the first place. They should approve loans to people who can repay the loan. They should charge appropriate rates in line with the competitive market. The gov'ment has doubled their FDIC rates; and unfunded mandates have to be shared in part by the consumer. Here's what a famous Congressmen who died recently said:

"The problems of our economy have occurred not as an outgrowth of laissez-faire, unbridled competition. They have occurred under the guidance of federal agencies, and under the umbrella of federal regulations."

Red-tape medicine: ah the truth, we can't handle the truth.

Cash for clunkers: was never a good idea.

Affordable care: except that we don't have the $10,000 a year that you are 'saving'. That money is not there, and our children won't be able to pay it either. A conundrum.

Better stewards: except Cap and Trade does nothing to cut down on pollution. Nada. It just moves humongous sums of money around the globe to rich and powerful greenies. Just stop littering -- more effective and much cheaper.

Poor outcomes: ridiculous. We should be ashamed of ignorant voters.

Emotion triumphs -- Lord we hope so.

Timely moral issue: well now the uninsured will die because they do have health insurance. And Christians who act on those 3,000 Bible references won't be able to do a thing about it. See Red-tape machine.

-- Posted by blogbudsman on Fri, Aug 28, 2009, at 5:49 AM

Lower rates: 81 banks have failed this year with more than 400 more on the verge of failing. It appears that they went a little too far.

Stray dogs: Buckshot

Better stewards: Pollution is caused by having far too many Democrats and Republicans that think they know what's best for you and me. Be a better steward by not supporting the destruction of this nation with their nonsense.

-- Posted by BCStoned on Fri, Aug 28, 2009, at 7:32 AM

Good morning! ☻

4-H leaders...☻

Lower rates...I thought they did?!?!?

Red-tape medicine...huh, kind of thought that's what pre-approval was for private insurance. ☻

Stray dogs...how terrible, any volunteers??

Cash for Clunkers...car dealers, riping people off...nah, surely not. lmao. ☻

Affordable care...still can't figure out how they get 'free' out of this???

Better stewards...We should all do what we can. ☻

USPS requirement...good grief, not this again.

Emotion triumphs...I agree, stop exaggerating. ☻

Timely moral issue...good for her.

-- Posted by Turnip on Fri, Aug 28, 2009, at 8:40 AM


your avatar is kinda wild...is that the psychadelic rooster Wheels was talking about?

-- Posted by ..Rick on Fri, Aug 28, 2009, at 8:51 AM

yes, it is, Rick. My avatar evidently makes Wheels dizzy. He'll tell ya he's been on the road the past few days but really he just can't focus. ☻ Do you like it?

-- Posted by Turnip on Fri, Aug 28, 2009, at 8:54 AM

no...i like your original avatar best ☺

-- Posted by ..Rick on Fri, Aug 28, 2009, at 8:56 AM

-- Posted by Turnip on Fri, Aug 28, 2009, at 8:58 AM

how about just shooting the stray dog that comes and attacks your dog on your property. The dog's owner obviously doesn't care or they would take measures to keep their dog on their own property.

-- Posted by TheArmySarge on Fri, Aug 28, 2009, at 9:18 AM

Stray Dogs: A little turpentine soaked corn cob to the butt, and they won't be back.

-- Posted by SpankTheTank on Fri, Aug 28, 2009, at 9:31 AM

In response to affordable care, I'm still not sure where its a right for us to have affordable health care. And if the government wants to get involved then they should go after the companies that make it expensive in the first place. Why should i have to pay more taxes for a federal run system? We have the freedom to choose our individual health care benifits and that is the only right we are promised. CNN and FOX news have both reported this week on the number of Canadians who choose to come to the US for health care because the national system provides sub par care. If you wanna know wat a government run system would look like in the US ask ne Veteren or Current service member about the care at VA and government facilities.

-- Posted by dsmcclln on Fri, Aug 28, 2009, at 9:33 AM


more like a rooster on LSD or something...Turnip , god love her , has better avatars in my humble opinion....

-- Posted by ..Rick on Fri, Aug 28, 2009, at 9:55 AM

Wheels and Rick: If she in fact painted the avatar while under the influence of LSD, it might well be a self portrait.

-- Posted by BCStoned on Fri, Aug 28, 2009, at 10:44 AM

James Nall

i'm trying to picture Turnips on LSD...what a hoot that would be..

-- Posted by ..Rick on Fri, Aug 28, 2009, at 10:51 AM

Wheels, first of all, my avatars are somewhat a reflection of myself. Oh and don't be fooled by Rick, he just REALLY, REALLY, REALLY likes my original avatar.

-- Posted by Turnip on Fri, Aug 28, 2009, at 10:51 AM

regarding health care....i wonder if the politicians in Washington DC give a care what a bunch of hillbillies in southeast Missouri are saying ...

-- Posted by ..Rick on Fri, Aug 28, 2009, at 10:52 AM


what does your current avatar reflect?

-- Posted by ..Rick on Fri, Aug 28, 2009, at 10:53 AM

Turnips...have u been to


-- Posted by ..Rick on Fri, Aug 28, 2009, at 10:55 AM

Rick, are you tryin' to get rid of me...☻

-- Posted by Turnip on Fri, Aug 28, 2009, at 11:08 AM

Rick, my avatar is cool like me. ☺ Tell ya what I don't see: a **** rooster! ☻

-- Posted by Turnip on Fri, Aug 28, 2009, at 11:12 AM

Wheels, different planet

-- Posted by BCStoned on Fri, Aug 28, 2009, at 12:38 PM

Eye slightly left of center,beak lower and trailing to the right, comb at the very top crowning the head above the eye, throat and neck below the eye and beak.

Give me a headache!

-- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Fri, Aug 28, 2009, at 12:10 PM

Sorry I need to post this side by side to accurately follow your description. You sure are high maintenance. lol

-- Posted by Turnip on Fri, Aug 28, 2009, at 12:43 PM

James, let me guess...you see a rooster too, right? ☻

-- Posted by Turnip on Fri, Aug 28, 2009, at 12:45 PM

Wheels, thanks for distorting my perfectly fine avatar. Now all I see is a rooster. I must go find a new one....

-- Posted by Turnip on Fri, Aug 28, 2009, at 12:55 PM

Turnip, not the front end of one, but I'm only guessing about the other end.

Wheels, just between you and me; is she a space traveling alien?

-- Posted by BCStoned on Fri, Aug 28, 2009, at 12:58 PM

Emotion Triumphs ... Huh! So both parties now realize that emotion triumphs reason every time. Looking back, it seems that the Republican Party is finally learning the usefuleness of emotion from the party which has utilized and almost perfected it for decades ... Is 'turnabout' fair play, though?

Now I see the rooster, Wheels ... thanks. Um ... Turnip, what IS it, really? Anyway ... I like it!

-- Posted by gurusmom on Fri, Aug 28, 2009, at 1:01 PM

Well, heck...maybe I should change it back, now people will be confused...

Wheels I think you are the common factor in this headache thing. ☻

gurusmom, I really don't know what it is. Just a avatar I found on a free avatar sites. I have some really cool animated ones (they move, one is a elephant jumpin' on a trampoline.) but the Missourian won't download them.

-- Posted by Turnip on Fri, Aug 28, 2009, at 1:11 PM

We are getting a hard rain

-- Posted by BCStoned on Fri, Aug 28, 2009, at 1:40 PM

Wheels, what on earth are you confused by NOW? ummm...aren't these **warning signs**?? ☻

-- Posted by Turnip on Fri, Aug 28, 2009, at 1:41 PM

steady rain, thunder & lightning here....

-- Posted by Turnip on Fri, Aug 28, 2009, at 1:43 PM

Turnip: We are into mushrooms now, are we?

-- Posted by BCStoned on Fri, Aug 28, 2009, at 1:43 PM

Great, James...now you are confused. That was Rick out picking 'em in the forest.

-- Posted by Turnip on Fri, Aug 28, 2009, at 1:55 PM

Why you asking James, Wheels? ☻

-- Posted by Turnip on Fri, Aug 28, 2009, at 2:22 PM

Wheels: Did you notice that the tallest mushroom in her avatar looks a lot like peyote?

-- Posted by BCStoned on Fri, Aug 28, 2009, at 3:23 PM

Wheels: You are much smarter than I.

-- Posted by BCStoned on Fri, Aug 28, 2009, at 3:25 PM

You guys still hung up on my avatar?? sheesh. ☻

-- Posted by Turnip on Fri, Aug 28, 2009, at 4:45 PM

Re: lower rates

Hmmm, wasn't this the kind of thing that contributed to the housing mess? Money so cheap that people bought more than they could handle whenever their apple cart got upsot.

Pass along the lower rates to consumers - eh, looked at the return on CD's lately. While those looking to use other people's money want low interest rates, those looking to profit by letting other people use their money (e.g. CD's) aren't doing so well.

Another case of 'somebody needs to do something for me'.

I remember buying a house at the tail end of the 80s, and was pleased-as-punch to be able to negotiate down from 10.5% to 9.5% by paying 'only' a point. Flippin' caller has no idea what high interest rates really are, and their effect on the amortization tables.

Re: Cash for Clunkers

Good grief, the obvious solution would be that the dealer keeps his car, the consumer keeps his money.

Re: Better stewards

As I understand it, the current version of cap-and-trade goes after only one emission - carbon dioxide. Sulfur emissions and nitrogen oxide emissions have already been severely regulated, and IMO, are very expensive success stories based on research that showed a definite causal effect - acid rain and ozone depletion.

Ahhhh - 'be a good citizen' - apparently the phrase that pays whenever logic and persuasion have failed - a polite way to say, "shut up and sit down". Suggest the caller is viewing things only from the approach of what it MAY cost if emissions are not brought under some yet undefined measure of control. I tend to also look at what this WILL cost if emissions are indeed controlled.

-- Posted by fxpwt on Fri, Aug 28, 2009, at 7:33 PM

They will put you on a trip Wheels. Kind of like take a trip and never leave the farm.

Went to a frat party many moons (not shrooms) ago and they were passing around an A&W root beer jug. When it came to me I drank about a pint. That night I figured out where the words "oh wow man" came from.

The next day I felt great but still a few colors were floating around. Never did it again but if someone passed me that jug again I might have a little sip.

-- Posted by Wiff on Fri, Aug 28, 2009, at 7:35 PM

BTW cap and trade will be the largest tax on the working man ever. You know that BO guy said no tax increase for anyone under 250K. If this passes he lied big time. Again. Also the money will go overseas.

-- Posted by Wiff on Fri, Aug 28, 2009, at 7:39 PM

Mr Wiffles,

Oh My GOD!!! You're kidding right? The President lied?? I have never heard of such a thing!! No other politician has ever lied in the history of the world. I am shocked and dismayed. The world is over as I know it!!!

-- Posted by Pups on Fri, Aug 28, 2009, at 8:06 PM

Awww..Doom and Gloom Sniffles at it again I see. I guess he's afraid they'll take away his library card and birthday too. Ohh Boo hoo. Poor Mr. Sniffles.

-- Posted by Ainamolagem on Fri, Aug 28, 2009, at 8:36 PM

I like Turnip's avatar. Ahh...the good ole days.

-- Posted by Ainamolagem on Fri, Aug 28, 2009, at 8:37 PM

Let's play a game... Name the politician lies game

1. I did not have sex with that woman.

2. Read my lips. No new taxes.

3. No expansion of Government

4. I did not tap my foot.

5. I did not pay for a prostitute while wearing a diaper.

6. I did not remove papers from my office.

7. I did not take a bribe, just thought my freezer was better then a bank.

8. I will go back to my office and run the business of my state till the end of my term.

9. I invented the internet.

10. I was on a hike in the woods.

11. I did not have my parents pay my mistress.

12. That child is not mine.

13. I am suspending my campaign.

14. I did not say on tape that I wanted compensation for the vacating senate seat.

15. I did not cheat on my wife.

16. I did not know that business was being run from my home.

17. The economy is fundalmentaly sound.

18. I will bring the troops home.

19. I thought he was a deer when I fired.

20. I did not lie.

-- Posted by Pups on Fri, Aug 28, 2009, at 9:21 PM




12) Edwards

14)Blagoevich (sp)


darn, Pups...this is tough. ☻

-- Posted by Turnip on Fri, Aug 28, 2009, at 10:06 PM


I thought it would be easy. lol And you're mistaken on #3. Or at least who I was think of at the time. But alot of them could have multiple answers.

-- Posted by Pups on Fri, Aug 28, 2009, at 10:10 PM

Will give you a the answer to #20... All of the above.

-- Posted by Pups on Fri, Aug 28, 2009, at 10:13 PM

Answers to 1 - 20 are simple.

Just about any Republicon elected to office.

-- Posted by Ainamolagem on Fri, Aug 28, 2009, at 10:35 PM


Sorry. I was an equal opputunity lie exposer.

-- Posted by Pups on Fri, Aug 28, 2009, at 10:37 PM

Uh oh ... "Emotion Triumphs ... Thought you were referring to Turnips, then you mentioned Democrats and Republicans." Not sure she'll let you get away with that one, Wheels! ~laughing~

Aw, thanks guys for all the mushroom and smarter and not-lying presidents laughs ... I needed that tonight!

Don't know #5 or 16 in the quiz ... Hmmm, some sound like more than one person's quote ...?

-- Posted by gurusmom on Fri, Aug 28, 2009, at 10:51 PM

The biggest liar would be Dick Cheney followed by Woodrow Wilson, Teddy Roosevelt, Franklin Roosevelt, Bill Clinton, Abraham Lincoln, and Dick Nixon.

I think that even GW Bush would admit off camera that Cheney beat them all.

-- Posted by BCStoned on Fri, Aug 28, 2009, at 11:47 PM


You are correct, alot of these 'quotes' can be attributed to many politicians. I had ones in mind as I made it up. Kind of flying by seat of my pants so to speak. I was just showing that both sides lie or at the very least do not tell the whole truth.

You did get most of the ones that I was thinking of while I was coming up with it. Though I had Reagan for #3. If you are curious to whom I meant that you didn't get, just let me know.


Sounds like you were the closest to getting them all. #5 I believe was Vitter, but thinking on these today I could be wrong on a few. #16 was Barney Frank.

-- Posted by Pups on Mon, Aug 31, 2009, at 5:15 PM

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