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Speak Out 8/27/09

Thursday, August 27, 2009

Parent greeter

I think the idea of having a parent greeter at school is a wonderful idea. My dad used to say to his father that if he would come to the fields where he was supervising his siblings, his shadow would make a difference. I believe it would help with morale at the school, and it also would help with discipline. Try it.

Follow the rules

I applaud the superintendent of the Cape Girardeau School District on the decision to ban use of cell phones. I want my child to follow the rules. If he gets his cell phone taken away, he will not get another one. Parents need to team up with the schools and teach our children rules are to be followed.

Emergency funds

SCANNING through Speak Out pearls of wisdom, it was a bit disturbing to see yet another American who believes it is his right to have free health coverage. The comment mentioned that a person should not have to make a choice between eating or medical care. That is a sad choice but is not usually the case. Usually the choice has been made much earlier. They chose 100-plus channels of cable TV, Internet service, cell phones, flat-screen TVs, new vehicles and a camper or boat, but when tough times hit they can't afford anything because they've already got themselves maxed out. Funny how we find the money for the things we want, but when it comes to our needs we look to Uncle Sam. We no longer save up for emergencies. I don't know where this mentality came from, but it's getting worse. Unless we start right now in our own homes to watch our spending and demand that our elected officials remember that it's our money they're spending, we will surely witness the demise of our great country as we beg the Chinese to lend us just a little bit more for our newest emergency.

College prep

IF college students can't set an alarm clock or put clothes in a washer or dryer, they're in bad shape, and the parents are to blame.

School manners

YOU can send your children to school every day of the week, but if you don't teach them how to say thank you and be polite, you're losing the battle. I am appalled at the attitude of this young generation, which doesn't say thank you.

Going broke

MEDICARE is going broke. Medicaid is going broke. Social Security is going broke because Congress has spent the trust funds for other purposes. If you really think we can start a massive new government health care program without it going broke too, then I have some oceanfront property in Arizona I would like to sell you.

Late-night work

I'M unhappy. At 2 o'clock this morning, a Sunday morning, the Missouri Department of Transportation is using heavy equipment, working through the night and keeping everybody awake. If you're like me, call MoDOT and voice your concerns so it won't happen again.

Enforce the laws

WHAT makes Cape Girardeau a "livable city" is the fact that we have laws and, when they are broken, they are enforced by the police and the court system. What a ludicrous idea that in order to enjoy freedom and leisure one should be exempt from these laws. If Cape Girardeau needs anything, it is more enforcement of these laws, not less.

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I suppose you have been in those homes and seen the 100 channel satellites, big screen tv, come on, I hope you never a helping hand, someone should remind you of your narrow thinking.

-- Posted by Dexterite1 on Thu, Aug 27, 2009, at 6:46 AM

I know of someone who gets financial help from the government and blows it on computers, tvs, and other nonsense instead of care, food, etc.

Abuse of the system exists. If you don't believe that, then you must not be living on Earth. Here in NY people with EBT cards were given money on those cards to buy school supplies for their kids. You know what I've seen them buy? TVs, beer, cigarettes and anything else BUT school supplies. I work at a retail outlet and have been seeing this the past couple of weeks. Abuse of the system, and more than likely EBT will not do this again next year thanks to those who blow the money on what they want instead of what their children need.

-- Posted by xXAngelicEvilXx on Thu, Aug 27, 2009, at 7:38 AM

Emergency Funds

You hit the nail on the head.

-- Posted by FreedomFadingFast on Thu, Aug 27, 2009, at 7:39 AM

I have a neighbor who was recently laid off, no insurance, just came home from the hospital with a bill over $300,00.00, they asked her how she'd like to arrange payments,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,you and I will end up paying the bills that people can't afford. Wake up America.

-- Posted by Dexterite1 on Thu, Aug 27, 2009, at 7:55 AM


When I see a family or child has a problem whether it's medical, home burns, etc I send a couple of hundred dollars to the cause.

It isn't that I am greedy. I don't trust bureaucrats and politicians because they are some of the worst managers in the states. Once it starts it will never stop.

The reason people are against this thing is they are trying to take it over instead of fixing the problems. Those problems are small compared to what will happen if bureaucrats manage it.

-- Posted by Wiff on Thu, Aug 27, 2009, at 8:04 AM

people use EBT cards for everything but food ...it's too easy to manipulate the system as it is now

-- Posted by ..Rick on Thu, Aug 27, 2009, at 8:15 AM

Ocean front Property. . .

Nice to see George Strait post a comment. . .

-- Posted by Bushman_212 on Thu, Aug 27, 2009, at 10:59 AM

But poverty is their main meal and they are rapidly expanding it through their attacks on the host.

James, I have to wonder if this is what LBJ had in mind when he signed into law our current "cradle to grave, no strings attached, handout social welfare system". A system that helps no one get out of poverty.

Seems a better way would have been a "temporary, strings attached, handup social welfare system". A system that may have actually helped to get people back up on their feet and on the road to self sufficiency.

-- Posted by FreedomFadingFast on Thu, Aug 27, 2009, at 11:01 AM

Emergency Funds ... Quite a good comment, all in all ... keeping in mind that not all, perhaps not even the majority, abuse the system ... although 'the system' does, indeed, appear to be geared to encourage life-long reliance on government's poverty programs.

I'd already suspected that you are one of those heartless, right-wing people with no compassion for anyone in need, Wiffle ... My thanks to people like you!

And to people like James and DTower, who see quite clearly and logically ... what has happened, what may in fact happen.

-- Posted by gurusmom on Thu, Aug 27, 2009, at 12:31 PM

Good afternoon! ☻

Parent greeter...yes, it is nice! ☻

Follow the rules...I agree, cell phones are not needed in class.

Emergency funds...see comment below. ☻

College prep...could this be the problem?

School manners..I've been appalled for years. Of course, it takes time to 'rise about your raising', I believe it's called maturing.

Late-night work...ahh, told ya it was loud. ☻ So much for Cape's 'great idea'. Actually foot traffic is pretty heavy late at night in Cape?

Enforce the laws...obey the laws. ☻

-- Posted by Turnip on Thu, Aug 27, 2009, at 12:38 PM

Actually Rick, when you use an EBT card, you have the option to choose "food" or "cash". Most of the cards you would choose food. Food is non-taxable, so any non-taxable item, (aka FOOD) will be the only thing applied to the card.

When EBT gave these people the extra money, they put it on the "cash" portion of the card, so then they could use the cash part for anything. You can't abuse the food part of the card except for buying a bunch of junk food. I've been asked if an EBT will pay for beer, which it will not since beer is taxed.

I'm for people getting certain kinds of help (WIC program for example), but there are certain types of people who feed off the government & taxpayers because they don't want to work.

-- Posted by xXAngelicEvilXx on Thu, Aug 27, 2009, at 12:58 PM

DTower is apparently unaware that the welfare reform legislation from 90s did place limits on the availability of welfare and did place an emphasis on work.

-- Posted by Ike on Thu, Aug 27, 2009, at 1:31 PM

DTower is completely aware of the loophole filled 90s welfare reform legislation. Dress it up anyway you want, call it whatever you want, it's still a cradle to grave, no strings attached, handout system.

-- Posted by FreedomFadingFast on Thu, Aug 27, 2009, at 1:48 PM


I think we're almost there already.

-- Posted by FreedomFadingFast on Thu, Aug 27, 2009, at 1:51 PM

What would a person be if they did the following?

1. Uses/has used the 'welfare' system (ie FEMA loan, food stamps, monthly check, etc)

2. Their child uses the 'welfare' system (ie.. food stamps, WIC, student grants, free child birth, monthly check, etc)

3. Their Grandchild uses the 'welfare' system (ie. through programs for children who's parents receive welfare)

4. Is the first to cry foul about welfare and the Government that gives that welfare.

And I am not implying that this is someone that posts in here.

-- Posted by Pups on Thu, Aug 27, 2009, at 4:20 PM

Depends on whether they are using it for a temporary handup or using it for a permanent handout.

-- Posted by FreedomFadingFast on Thu, Aug 27, 2009, at 4:28 PM

This person sees themselves as handup but everyone else has handout.

-- Posted by Pups on Thu, Aug 27, 2009, at 4:31 PM

Those that can't see the difference between a handup leading to a productive taxpaying citizen, and handout leading to a permanent crutch are either blind or just plain idiots.

-- Posted by FreedomFadingFast on Thu, Aug 27, 2009, at 4:39 PM

I give up, what would they be?

My son got a monthly government check, free medical care including births from the Army; maybe it's him.

-- Posted by Blackthorn on Thu, Aug 27, 2009, at 4:40 PM


In your son's case, I would say drastically underpaid for the services that he rendered.

-- Posted by FreedomFadingFast on Thu, Aug 27, 2009, at 4:46 PM


If I knew the answer I wouldn't have asked the question.

And yes, military receive those things as well. Though my question did forget to exempt military, State and Fed employees. My mistake. As a former Airforce brat I should have done better in the phrasing.

Again, not someone in here I am refering to.

-- Posted by Pups on Thu, Aug 27, 2009, at 4:47 PM


When you say exempt Fed employees, I hope you're not including Congressmen and Senators. These are truely people who are paid for doing nothing useful.

-- Posted by FreedomFadingFast on Thu, Aug 27, 2009, at 5:00 PM


I was refering to nonelected Federal Employees. But in thinking about it State and Fed Employees might have an insurance system different then that of the Military and definately different then the elected officials in Washington.

-- Posted by Pups on Thu, Aug 27, 2009, at 5:07 PM

And I admittedly don't always see Congressmen and Senators as workers. lol

-- Posted by Pups on Thu, Aug 27, 2009, at 5:08 PM

Well Pups, we're almost on the same page. I NEVER see Congressmen and Senators as workers.

-- Posted by FreedomFadingFast on Thu, Aug 27, 2009, at 5:13 PM

School manners? You should have gone to school in the era of Ms. Nellie Krueger at Franklin School!

-- Posted by voyager on Thu, Aug 27, 2009, at 5:48 PM


Sorry, sometimes I don't pick up things too quick, but if you don't know the answer how will you know the correct answer.

As to Federal Employees, my wife was one and she certainly didn't get all that. I carried her on my insurance as it was better than hers.

No welfare food stamps, welfare, WIC or any of that. She does complain a little about some, but not all "welfare" programs.

-- Posted by Blackthorn on Thu, Aug 27, 2009, at 6:02 PM

Re: parent-greeter

Hmmm, discipline and morale. Going off on a bit of a tangent here - wonder if there's a way to chart the time that a teacher spends doing things other than teaching - such as maintaining classroom order - against standardized test scores or other learning benchmark, then trend this over the past several years? Suggest there might be an inverse relationship - for increased time spent on non-teaching duties, could expect decreasing test scores. The challenge would be proving the existence of such a relationship, and then demonstrating the degree of impact.

Re: emergency funds

Perhaps one reason people no longer save for emergencies is because they have a common belief that their rich Uncle will take care of them.

Somewhat humorous in all of this is that there seems to be so few willing to accept responsibility for their plights. They see themselves as victims - "it's not my fault".

Re: college prep

One difference between 'was taught' and 'learned' is whether the sent message was received and put to use. On the other hand, "I was never taught" is not the same reason or excuse as "never bothered to learn".

Re: school manners

Perhaps many of the younger generation don't have reason to be thankful, if they're blessed enough to receive most everything they ask for.

-- Posted by fxpwt on Thu, Aug 27, 2009, at 6:39 PM


My appologies. There really isn't a right or wrong answer I guess. The programs are there for a reason. Agree with them or don't they are there. I have seen people on them that really need them and I have seen people on them that don't. I have seen people denied that I knew needed them but couldn't for what ever reason. I personally would prefer they be there for those that need it rather then just want it. If that makes sense?

-- Posted by Pups on Thu, Aug 27, 2009, at 7:11 PM


it would be almost impossible to come up with a program that isn't abused . there's always one more jerk then a person counted on...

-- Posted by ..Rick on Thu, Aug 27, 2009, at 7:59 PM


I believe I agree with you on that one. These programs were not intended as they have expanded. At the same time I have seen a reason for those expansions. Smarter people then myself will have to figure this out.

-- Posted by Pups on Thu, Aug 27, 2009, at 10:03 PM


Welfare use/abuse is not something I give a lot of thought to anymore since I no longer deal with it on a day to day basis.

It is an imperfect system, but I sure don't know how to fix it and I do believe it is needed.

-- Posted by Blackthorn on Thu, Aug 27, 2009, at 11:06 PM

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