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Speak Out 6/26/09

Friday, June 26, 2009

City of trash

I read a comment the other day about all the trash around this town. How true. My 10-year-old grandson was in town last week, and he kept commenting on all the trash as we walked and drove around town. He was amazed at the trash as we walked to the river. The problem is obvious even to a 10-year-old boy. Cape Girardeau is no longer a city of roses. It's a city of trash.

Spay, neuter

THIS goes out to all inconsiderate people who will not spay and neuter your animals. You have got to start spaying and neutering instead of putting your responsibility on somebody else. Why don't you do the right thing and spay and neuter instead of calling a shelter? All the shelters are full.

Turn lanes

THIS is in reference to the intersection changes at Independence Street and Kingshighway with the double left turns. Somebody needs to put some stripes on the pavement so motorists who don't realize there are two left-turn lanes won't sit in the middle and block both lanes for everybody else. A sign would help also.

TV change

I'D like to know what's going on with my television reception. I used to get eight stations. Now I get three Cape Girardeau stations after buying all those gadgets. I don't see how the change benefited anybody. I don't understand why we make life so complicated.

Time for action

CONSERVATION, reclamation and preservation should be our motivation regarding the use of our global environment. Al Gore would be a great ambassador of the U.S. on the world stage. He could negotiate with other industrial nations to address pollution and resource management issues. We must act now to save and restore ecosystems around the globe. Scientists need to brainstorm solutions for the problems we face. We have the brain power. We need action from governments. The populace needs education. A comprehensive agenda needs to be composed to tackle the task. Some say we cannot afford to do this. I say we cannot afford not to do this.

Feeding the planet

A news report stated that 1 billion people on this planet are undernourished. For $365 billion we could feed these people for one year. This amount is one-seventh of the U.S. GDP. If other countries would contribute, we could certainly accomplish this goal. Respect life and have empathy for people who need our help. Starvation is a terrible reality. Why can't we help?

Peaceful assembly

THE news media recently brought to our attention the tragedy of the events of Tiananmen Square 20 years ago. Now we watch as the citizens of Iran demonstrate against what appears to be an unfair election. Our president is saying that people around the world should have the right to peaceful assembly. Isn't it ironic that an elderly priest and several people were arrested recently for trespassing onto Notre Dame University to protest our pro-abortion president? I wonder how much of a threat that frail priest was since the police had to carry him away on a stretcher.

Business help

WHEN are our federal legislators going to step in and help the small-business owners? We are out to make a decent and honest living. I own a small construction company. Every time you turn around, you have the IRS there, OSHA there, workers' comp insurance there, liability insurance there. There's always somebody with his hand out for money. When we do a job, we don't get paid for 30 to 60 days. How are we supposed to pay for all our insurance? How are we supposed to make payroll? Small-business loans at the banks are supposed to help you. You ought to see what you have to do to get one. It seems like it's only for the rich. Something needs to be done to help the small-business guy out. Is there any help out there for hard-working small-business guy?


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TV change ...you don't have your rabbit ears bent correctly

Spay, neuter ...snip , snip

Feeding the planet ....feed America first

-- Posted by ..Rick on Fri, Jun 26, 2009, at 12:08 AM

Feeding the planet is a nice thought but guess what? We've tried! We've sent billions of dollars to impoverished parts of the world and nothing changes. The dictators end up using the money to buy weapons, stealing the food for themselves and the people still starve.

-- Posted by Data48 on Fri, Jun 26, 2009, at 5:36 AM

City of trash - While your walking around with your grandson, pick a little of that trash up. You could've done a lot in the same amount of time that it took you to find your glasses, find your telephone book, find the phone number for the Southeast Missourian, call Southeast Builders Supply by mistake, find the Missourian number again, ask the receptionist for the "Speak Out Department", get transfered to Steve down in Printing, get hung up on, remember that the number for Speak Out is always published in the Op-Ed section, dig an old Missourian out of the bottom of Polly's cage, wipe parrot poop off for half an hour, take a nap, call Speak Out and reveal to the world just what a whiney fiend you are.

Spay, neuter - Thank you Bob Barker! How is retirement treating you?

Turn lanes - You can't fix stupid.

TV change - Try unplugging your TV, taking it to an open window on the second floor, wrapping the cord tightly around your neck and gently pushing the TV out the window. There, two problems solved and the world is a better place.

Time for action - Al Gore would be the perfect choice, but he is too busy making a fortune on the boondoggle that he helped create.

Feeding the planet - Listen, US citizens are the most generous on the planet. But, we are about tapped out. It is getting difficult to feed my own family. We do what we can, but we gotta take care of our own first. I can't state it more simply.

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Speak Out 6/26/09

Friday, June 26, 2009

City of trash

I read a comment the other day about all the trash around this town. How true. My 10-year-old grandson was in town last week, and he kept commenting on all the trash as we walked and drove around town. He was amazed at the trash as we walked to the river. The problem is obvious even to a 10-year-old boy. Cape Girardeau is no longer a city of roses. It's a city of trash.

Spay, neuter

THIS goes out to all inconsiderate people who will not spay and neuter your animals. You have got to start spaying and neutering instead of putting your responsibility on somebody else. Why don't you do the right thing and spay and neuter instead of calling a shelter? All the shelters are full.

Turn lanes

THIS is in reference to the intersection changes at Independence Street and Kingshighway with the double left turns. Somebody needs to put some stripes on the pavement so motorists who don't realize there are two left-turn lanes won't sit in the middle and block both lanes for everybody else. A sign would help also.

TV change

I'D like to know what's going on with my television reception. I used to get eight stations. Now I get three Cape Girardeau stations after buying all those gadgets. I don't see how the change benefited anybody. I don't understand why we make life so complicated.

Time for action

CONSERVATION, reclamation and preservation should be our motivation regarding the use of our global environment. Al Gore would be a great ambassador of the U.S. on the world stage. He could negotiate with other industrial nations to address pollution and resource management issues. We must act now to save and restore ecosystems around the globe. Scientists need to brainstorm solutions for the problems we face. We have the brain power. We need action from governments. The populace needs education. A comprehensive agenda needs to be composed to tackle the task. Some say we cannot afford to do this. I say we cannot afford not to do this.

Feeding the planet

A news report stated that 1 billion people on this planet are undernourished. For $365 billion we could feed these people for one year. This amount is one-seventh of the U.S. GDP. If other countries would contribute, we could certainly accomplish this goal. Respect life and have empathy for people who need our help. Starvation is a terrible reality. Why can't we help?

Peaceful assembly - The Iranian protesters are more American than we are. They aren't getting a water hose or Tazer'd, they are getting shot and casturated. If had .00000000000003% of the patriotism that the Iranian protesters are showing, the US would still be a free society.

Business help - How much more government help is it gonna take before there is no such thing as private buisness; big or small?

-- Posted by Lumpy on Fri, Jun 26, 2009, at 7:30 AM

Marble Hill Budget Meeting Today, City Hall 04:15 pm

-- Posted by mobushwhacker on Fri, Jun 26, 2009, at 7:40 AM

Good morning! ☻

City of trash....This remindS me of a sign I saw in Cape on West End the other day, it said HELP KEEP OUR CITY CLEAN or something to that affect, now let's analyze this: YOU CAN PICK UP TRASH AS WELL!!!!

Spay, neuter...ah, I agree. Help control the pet population! ☻

Turn lanes....I have yet to travel this road since the changes, but this seems really ridiculous to me! We have people who can barely navigate two lane roads, let's confuse them more with double turning lanes all over the place! On a side note: I love it when people are in one turning lane and crossover to the other while turning.

TV change...going from eight to three would ease life's complications, correct? Now you only have 3 to choose from. lol

Time for action...Al Gore, could Leonardo DiCaprio be his sidekick???

Feeding the planet....ummm, I got my hands full just taking care of me and mine, thanks anyway!

Peaceful assembly....trespassing I believe is the key word.

Business help...sorry, can't help ya.

-- Posted by Turnip on Fri, Jun 26, 2009, at 8:03 AM

Now, can you tell me ... since my memory is fogged even though I've done our taxes for decades ... but it seems like our SS and Medicare contributions were taxed as income (not deductible). Were they? If so ... then being taxed on SS income appears to be that old 'double-taxation' we used to talk about now and then. Of course, we're double-taxed to death anyway, although there are 'explanations' saying we really aren't ...

-- Posted by gurusmom on Thu, Jun 25, 2009, at 9:55 PM

Mom

From last night. If you were not aleep when I got back to SO last night, you should have been. So I waited until this morning to reply. That and the fact I needed a clarification from my daughter.

Depending on your income level, which she did not recall off the top of her head, you could be taxed on up to 85% of your Social Security and Medicare contribution. Missouri follows the Federal guidelines.

Now add to that, if your income goes above a certain level, do not know it either, you get to pay income tax on your Social Security Income as well.

We should be so lucky as to only be taxed double.

Hope this helps and if you get put in jail for listening to my advice, I will get you out if it takes the rest of my life!

-- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Fri, Jun 26, 2009, at 8:28 AM

re: TV change

sheesh another stupid comment from someone who can't get their Jerry Springer or Entertainment Tonight

Wonder how many of these folks voted for Obama

-- Posted by TommyStix on Fri, Jun 26, 2009, at 8:32 AM

Peaceful assembly:

Oh I don't know, I recall a protest in 1968 at Grant Park during the Democratic convention that

seems very similar to the goings on in Iran!

I lived in Chicago at the time and believe me it

was VERY similar. In no way am I saying that the

events of that time are the same as what we are seeing in Iran however, no Government is without

its faults or destruction of civil liberties.

-- Posted by GREYWOLF on Fri, Jun 26, 2009, at 8:57 AM

sheesh another stupid comment from someone who can't get their Jerry Springer or Entertainment Tonight

-- Posted by TommyStix on Fri, Jun 26, 2009, at 8:32 AM

For many older folks this change has been difficult. Some have a hard time understanding the tech part of it and they can't always easily go out and move the antena this way and that. You've got to understand, to them buying the new equipment/TV, hooking up and setting up, seemed enough, but to then be told to take a paper clip and untwist and stick in here - was over the top for something that worked and was so simple before. And for most of them - its the news, not the Jerry Springer, that they miss. My parents live in a rural area.

-- Posted by concerned4all on Fri, Jun 26, 2009, at 9:27 AM

If you are too dumb to figure out TV, then you don't need it. Try reading a book instead. And enough about old people. I know some pretty tech-savy seasoned citizens & some pretty stupid young people. There is no discrimation when it comes to being a moron.

Good morning. Who peed in my coffee?

-- Posted by Just__Me on Fri, Jun 26, 2009, at 9:35 AM

-- Posted by Just__Me on Fri, Jun 26, 2009, at 9:35 AM

You seem to be a pretty understanding sort of guy. My mom has had several heart atttacks and a stroke - it's difficut for her - sorry if I made her seem like a "moron" to you.

-- Posted by concerned4all on Fri, Jun 26, 2009, at 9:40 AM

Just_Me,

Now you are just being rude! I suggest you just keep your mouth shut if you don't have anything nice to say or maybe try going back to bed and getting out on the right side of the bed.

Suelynn,

I also have elderly parents and understand how difficult it can be for them. Too bad some people are just missing the sensitivity chip!

-- Posted by Cat'sEye on Fri, Jun 26, 2009, at 9:50 AM

Out of curiosity, how would those of us so opposed to government rules, regulations and interference in our day to day lives be so sanguine on problems associated with the digital transition?

How would one defend against the claim we only object when it affects something which has an impact on us or that we view as being too unimportant?

-- Posted by RA on Fri, Jun 26, 2009, at 9:58 AM

TV change: It is difficult to receive digital signals at many locations out here in the boondocks. I recommend getting in touch with KFVS or the Geek Squad at Best Buy and state the problem. I was called yesterday about this problem and that was my recommendation. The new signal opens up bandwidth. This was originally to take place in 2006 but was delayed to allow more time for its adaption. It is not being stupid to discover that you have problems receiving the signal. In some cases they might have to go with satellite for reception.

GREYWOLF: Remember Kent State?

-- Posted by BCStoned on Fri, Jun 26, 2009, at 10:26 AM

Morning all

City of Trash

You can accomplish a lot more by doing something than by sitting around and complaining. This weekend grab a trash bag and another for the kiido and take the walk picking trash up along the way. Let him learn the leason that if we all chip in something can change and that complaining isn't accomlishing anything.

Spay and Neuter

In either Feb or March most vets in the area have a special on the procedure I know ours was $25 cheaper at this time than when we had our dog spayed the year before, there is alo shots you can give a dog to keep them from going into heat and that is cheaper as well, if you do not want more pets, can not care for more then take the money and get it done. I notice everyday in the classifieds the list o kittens to be given away. Spay the momma and look at how much cheapr it will be in the long run not having to buy all the extra food when a new litter comes along.

TV change

We have satelite so it was no issue here but I can see how it is aggravating for folks. They told them to go buy a converter and they did, they tell them to adjust the antenna and they did and they still can not get signal. It is a conspiracy with govt and te cable companies to get more people to shell out the money for cable. why can't the cable company offer a basic package of just local channel for a few bucks a month for those people.

Feeding the planet

I look around and see all the kids and adults around here that are obese and then you see where others are starving. Maybe the obese could give up box of ding dongs a week and donate that money.

Small business

Not all small business are floundering. The ones that have saved, worked hard and not expanded above their means are doing ok even with Osha, insurance etc. Small business or big it all comes back to how it s managed.

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Fri, Jun 26, 2009, at 10:37 AM

Spay, neuter: But my kids just love cute little puppies. Puppies grow up then we country folk end up dealing with them when they aren't so cute.

Time for action: You are going to pay for this, right?

Feeding the planet: Break out your wallet.

I think that both these posts are hinting at private property trespass. It is not my problem, it is yours, so don't trespass on my wallet.

Peaceful assembly: Iran must deal with Iran's problems and not nosey neighbors.

Business help: I went through the same thing with my construction company back in the seventies. I dealt with the problem by closing my business before I went bankrupt. My crew received Employment Security Insurance, I received the bills. Redistribution of wealth is not the answer.

-- Posted by BCStoned on Fri, Jun 26, 2009, at 10:47 AM

testing..

artificial intelligence is no match for natural stupidity....

-- Posted by ..Rick on Fri, Jun 26, 2009, at 10:58 AM

Please read this for our children and our country's sake! www.parentalrights.com

-- Posted by deenahz on Fri, Jun 26, 2009, at 11:43 AM

James, YES I do remember the Kent State murders.

I was almost arrested the next day for lowering the Flag to half mast in our City Park. Several hundred of us were protesting the war at the time.

I was considered one of the leaders and came very close to being charged with insighting a riot.

That was also the year I was drafted. Of course

I enlisted instead and had to do 4 years. I decided to become a corpsman (medic) with the Navy so I would not have to carry a weapon. Found out later the Marines don't have medics because the Navy supplies them. I got volunteered real quick to be one of them! Thats my story needless

to say there is more but won't bore anyone with all that.

-- Posted by GREYWOLF on Fri, Jun 26, 2009, at 11:59 AM

Greywolf - I find your stories interesting and honest and always enjoy reading them. Would you share more or is that too personal?

-- Posted by concerned4all on Fri, Jun 26, 2009, at 12:03 PM

Suelynn, nothing much is too personal for me.

Those Navy years were filled with all sorts of

experiences. As a Corpsman I must say the majority of my duties involved taking care of medical issues. Most of which involved one form of VD or another or some critter crawling on their private parts! I know that sounds terrible however, very true. The marines were not as involved in the day to day fighting in Viet Nam

in late 1970 up to the end of the conflict in 75'

Most of my time was spent State side with several short trips via Air to the far east. I will say I grew up a lot on a couple of those trips. Bangkok comes to mind!!!! Those here who have been there would understand that statement. Like most veterans I have many really kewl stories however way to many to share here. Those days are long gone but will never be forgotten nor will I forget those who are serving now and in harms way.

One thing I will say is that when I was in, there were NO woman allowed aboard ship. Perhaps if they were I may have wanted to be assigned aboard

one.However, I probably would have been in trouble even more often then I was....Nothing serious though.

-- Posted by GREYWOLF on Fri, Jun 26, 2009, at 12:44 PM

GREYWOLF: Never been to Bangkok. Served on the USS DeHaven as a sonarman. I only spent 3 yrs and 9 months in the Navy. I went in when I was 17 lacking one month before I turned 18. I had to extend 4 months for school (voluntary) and 4 months for Vietnam (involuntary). Most of my time was spent in the 7th Fleet.

-- Posted by BCStoned on Fri, Jun 26, 2009, at 1:20 PM

thanks to both of you for serving ....

-- Posted by ..Rick on Fri, Jun 26, 2009, at 1:46 PM

"A Bully Named Kim":

http://mobushwhacker.bravejournal.com/en...

-- Posted by mobushwhacker on Fri, Jun 26, 2009, at 1:47 PM

"A Bully Named Kim":

http://mobushwhacker.bravejournal.com/en...

-- Posted by mobushwhacker on Fri, Jun 26, 2009, at 1:47 PM

Obama will go over and give him a hug!

-- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Fri, Jun 26, 2009, at 2:02 PM

Well, once again I see my intellectual superiority reigns supreme. As quote many many many times, I have stated this is a public forum, while other's persist it was private. Jon Rust made an official statement on that in Spankthetanks Speakout Forum Thingy, looks like I was...right again.

-- Posted by Megalomania on Fri, Jun 26, 2009, at 2:11 PM

Time for Action ... Al Gore looked around for something lucrative to do after his political career ended. His personal lifestyle does not indicate a personal seriousness about conservation of our resources.

Feeding the Planet ... Good idea. Then if we could convince our country's poor and low-income families to give money they don't have to help others in need ... Wouldn't that be pretty much the same as expecting the U.S. to donate money it doesn't have to other countries?

Good comments on it, Rick and Data48 ... and in a year, the same problem exists, regardless of how or by whom the money was spent.

City of Trash ... FUNNY scenario, lumpy! Love it!

Business Help ... Exactly the reason Pops & I closed our small construction company back in the late 1970's ... same as James did ... our employees netted more income than we did ... and it wasn't near as bad then as it is now. Small Business Administration, maybe, for help?

-- Posted by gurusmom on Fri, Jun 26, 2009, at 2:20 PM

Wheels, I'll be chuckling over this all day: "... if you get put in jail for listening to my advice, I will get you out if it takes the rest of my life!" SO sweet of you to take the time to confer with your daughter about my questions, thanks!

Um ... Just_Me ... "Good morning. Who peed in my coffee?" Thought it was you ... NO, no ... I'm just kidding around ... that was kind of funny! I didn't think you were knocking Old People ... You'd BETTER not be! ~wink~

Did anyone see the video on KFVS of the Schnucks purse-snatcher, with an older woman running up the aisle behind him? If that was the victim, and if she had been able to catch up with him, I bet she'd have beat him senseless ... Don't mess with Old Ladies, guys ... ~grinning~

-- Posted by gurusmom on Fri, Jun 26, 2009, at 2:27 PM

Rick: 8 out of nine of us Nall cousins or brothers served in the military. Almost everyone did back then, with the draft and all. 1 in the Korean Conflict and 5 in the Vietnam Conflict. Serving was not an unusual feat. Getting out of serving was.

-- Posted by BCStoned on Fri, Jun 26, 2009, at 2:28 PM

City of trash: Concrete Jungle, not a pretty thing.

Spay, neuter: Manditory Spay and neuter, isn't that another form of genocide?

Turn lanes: Watch out!

TV change: "I don't understand why we make life so complicated." AMEN!

Time for action: *sigh*

Feeding the planet: Let's help ourselves first, we spend toooo much money in foreign aid. We're broke folks, if we can't afford stuff here at home, we can't afford it in these other countries either!

Peaceful assembly: What???? YOu can't do that!

Business help: The continued call for bailout. Here we go.

-- Posted by Megalomania on Fri, Jun 26, 2009, at 2:31 PM

Just heard that they rounded up illegals employed at Casa Mexican this am. Two are still missing.

No mention of whethter or not the owners knew their status. Hopefully they're in the clear so that I can still get my shrimp fajitas. I won't be spending my money there until I find out, because I'm not supporting a business that would knowingly hire illegals.

-- Posted by Just__Me on Fri, Jun 26, 2009, at 3:08 PM

Mom, no not knocking old people, just dumb ones.

-- Posted by Just__Me on Fri, Jun 26, 2009, at 3:09 PM

Why doesn't a friend or relative simply go out and help some of these older folks get their TV working if it is simply not knowing what to do.

I am constantly helping one or another of my technologicaly impaired friends and relatives with at least some of their less complicated issues

-- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Fri, Jun 26, 2009, at 3:49 PM

Re: Spay, neuter

If we spay or neuter sex offenders, it is deemed to be cruel and unusual punishment...so why would you submit your pet to that same cruel and unusual act?

I wouldn't want anyone cutting MY nuts out...so why would I do that to my best friend?

-- Posted by dixietrucker on Fri, Jun 26, 2009, at 3:53 PM

KZIM just reported that they had fake soc. sec. cards that looked real and that the business owners are being treated as "victims" because they were duped.

Also, JoAnn Emerson is voting "No" on the energy bill currently on the floor.

-- Posted by Just__Me on Fri, Jun 26, 2009, at 4:15 PM

JM - I hope you never get old or if you do, there are more sensitive people around you with an understanding of your limitations. I also hope they don't mock and belittle you when you are confused by changes. Maybe you will still be able to read.

Mom - how does Pops handle the newer tech stuff?

-- Posted by concerned4all on Fri, Jun 26, 2009, at 4:22 PM

So is that a death wish?

I plan to live a long PRODUCTIVE life just to irritate libs & nut jobs. All the while I'll be rolling around naked in $100 bills.

-- Posted by Just__Me on Fri, Jun 26, 2009, at 4:39 PM

Wheels - all of us have, but it won't stay for very long before it is off again and that's proved very frustrating to mom. I can't blame her - it all worked fine before the "improvements". She had all she needed. They bought a new TV to make the transition easier and to try to avoid disrupted service. They might have to hook up to a system now, but isn't that sad. My parents can afford it, but what about all those who can't. All well, what does it matter, they're probably just "morons".

-- Posted by concerned4all on Fri, Jun 26, 2009, at 4:40 PM

I was wondering when you would come to his rescue....why doesn't anyone ever come to my rescue? Oh, nevermind...they do! ;o)

-- Posted by Turnip on Fri, Jun 26, 2009, at 4:53 PM

Exactly what I was thinking Turnip - its a little gang and they stick together - it happened last night too. LOL

-- Posted by concerned4all on Fri, Jun 26, 2009, at 4:56 PM

GREYWOLF - thanks for the reply - "critters" made me LOL.

-- Posted by concerned4all on Fri, Jun 26, 2009, at 5:11 PM

Turnip...i had ur back before...remember me?

-- Posted by ..Rick on Fri, Jun 26, 2009, at 5:19 PM

Cycle, dude! There you are!

Yes, I take good care of myself by having healthy living habits & constantly stimulating my brain. (I mess with people here like some people place Bejewellled.) Nearly a quarter of a century of learning paid off & it hasn't stopped. I learn something new every day.

My biggest regret: My rolling around naked in US currency is actually good for the environment according to a recent report. Now I need to go apply lotion so those new bills I picked up don't cause chafing. If that fails, it's a bathtub full of banana pudding for me tonight. I've considered buying about a hunderd Bob Evans Oreo Pies to put in the tub to see how those work.

-- Posted by Just__Me on Fri, Jun 26, 2009, at 5:43 PM

I often agree with JM and SD, but I can't on the digital issue and I really don't see two individuals such as SD and JM agreeing with each other "ganging up".

To me, however well intentioned, the digital switchover is just another example of governmental ineptitude.

It has had no impact on me, but that is not how I judge/evaluate things.

-- Posted by RA on Fri, Jun 26, 2009, at 5:46 PM

1. I don't need anyone to "rescue" me. I can more than take care of myself if I wish to put forth the effort.

2. Rick what are you implying about our beloved Veggie Root?

3. Saw a baby shirt the other day that was funny as heck (although I don't think anyone who isn't white trash would dare to put it on their kid). It said, "I'm proof that Mommy puts out."

-- Posted by Just__Me on Fri, Jun 26, 2009, at 5:46 PM

Triple S, when the guv'ment is involed, ineptitude is the norm. SNAFU.

-- Posted by Just__Me on Fri, Jun 26, 2009, at 5:47 PM

Rick, I was speaking of you when I said: "nevermind, they do! ;o)"

-- Posted by Turnip on Fri, Jun 26, 2009, at 5:48 PM

Just_Me,

That has been my experience, FUBAR.

-- Posted by RA on Fri, Jun 26, 2009, at 5:59 PM

JM, funny shirt, but I couldn't imagine anyone putting that on a baby either. sheesh!

-- Posted by Turnip on Fri, Jun 26, 2009, at 6:02 PM

Suelynn

No shame in not being able to deal with some of the new hi tech products out there. I understand some people just cannot handle it.

I would seem that someone will develope a better outdoor antenna for the rural areas.

And I know that does might not solve all of the problems either as the antenna could need to be moved when you go to another channel.

I get my local stations through Direct TV but that does not give me all of the new digital channels so I have tried the antenna thing, and it is not without problems.

The answer would seem to be what one poster said, get the cable and satellite companies to provide a cheap basic package giving people just local channels.

You can add my wife to the technically challenged.

-- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Fri, Jun 26, 2009, at 6:12 PM

Interesting... so maybe it's just the girls that notice when the boys gang up. It's usually on one of us, so perhaps that's why we're aware. I think it was Wobble who felt he had to rescue SD from me last night. Their remarks sound the same and they have changed their names so much that I get them mixed up...and it doesn't seem to matter. LOL And THEY say we drink the kool-aide?

-- Posted by concerned4all on Fri, Jun 26, 2009, at 6:16 PM

Wheels - at my house, I'm the one who deals with tech, but my parents live several hours away. When the farming slows down, Dad will be checking into it again and come up with a fix.

-- Posted by concerned4all on Fri, Jun 26, 2009, at 6:24 PM

Suelynn, I have tried to explain this to them before. Wheels says we as girls should be more compassionate/forgiving by nature, he also said he's older and can't run so fast. Makes ya wonder, huh?

-- Posted by Turnip on Fri, Jun 26, 2009, at 6:26 PM

Yep! And I think they are lucky we are more compassionate and forgiving...but there are limits!

-- Posted by concerned4all on Fri, Jun 26, 2009, at 6:30 PM

That's it Turnip... too old to fight and unable to run.

-- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Fri, Jun 26, 2009, at 6:31 PM

Wheels, I started to write something like that: "Why doesn't a friend or relative simply go out and help some of these older folks get their TV working..." but as usual my wordiness was getting out of hand so didn't want to overwhelm everyone.

Anyway ... What does basic cable cost in Cape? Seems like DISH satellite is around $35 a month ... What's the possibility of some seniors' children splitting the cost for them to have it? We started doing that for my parents' cable subscription several years ago, as a sort of on-going anniversary gift.

Uh ... suelynn ... "how does Pops handle the newer tech stuff?" Pops doesn't deal with the newer technology stuff ... except for learning to use his new and very complicated remote for DISH ... incentive is the key, maybe? ~laughing~

SD ... sigh ... "[Obama] should propose a program to pay for those poor souls who cannot afford cable/satellite television." For Pete's sake, don't let any politician hear you say that! You do know there is public housing in some places where they (we) provide telephone, cable and internet services as it is?

-- Posted by gurusmom on Fri, Jun 26, 2009, at 6:34 PM

Don't worry, Wheels...I'll protect you! ☻

-- Posted by Turnip on Fri, Jun 26, 2009, at 6:37 PM

The cap and trade bill passed. Rep. Emerson voted no and deserves a thank you. I don't say that lightly, believe me.

This bill could be a death knoll for buisness' in this part of the country. I have a feeling that farmers will especially suffer. I will be calling our senators to vote no; hopefully logic will prevail in the Senate.

-- Posted by Lumpy on Fri, Jun 26, 2009, at 6:39 PM

suelynn, that's exactly my point. Spank has a thread going where I feel I'm being 'reprimanded' for my defense tactics/potty mouth but c'mon....how much can one person take?? I try, it's the best I can do! ☻

-- Posted by Turnip on Fri, Jun 26, 2009, at 6:40 PM

Mom

I don't have a clue what cable is in Cape. I don't live there and I use satelite because of using it in the Motor Home when we travel. Thaat is where I tried the new digital channels. Heck we had one channel that now provides 4 totally different programs. A good deal but when you switch from that to a different channel you have to rotate the antenna. A pain to say the least.

I do understand the need though to make these changes, bandwith, clear pictures (if and when you can get one), but it can work a hardship on some folks. I like your idea of the kids chipping in to help the older folks. I am currently doing just that as a relative had turned off some of the programming because it cost too much. Caught hell for doing it too but we got by that.

-- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Fri, Jun 26, 2009, at 6:53 PM

GurusMom, it's been awhile since I have had basic/expanded basic, but it seems basic was around $15./month and expanded was like $35. I have had digital for awhile now.

I agree, families should help their own anyway they can but unfortunately many elderly don't have any to speak of. I did see a number on KFVS12 you could call if you are experiencing difficulties BUT if you can't get reception, how on earth will you get the number??

-- Posted by Turnip on Fri, Jun 26, 2009, at 7:03 PM

Wow, lumpy ... a while ago (Pops has been watching it) it looked like it might not pass. He doesn't think it will pass Senate.

-- Posted by gurusmom on Fri, Jun 26, 2009, at 7:13 PM

Wheels: I have had Dish Network, changed to DirecTV a couple of years ago. Well satisfied with it. The change over to digital had no affect on us.

-- Posted by BCStoned on Fri, Jun 26, 2009, at 7:23 PM

I know, Wheels ... my parents just had a fit about us 'doing that.' I just explained to them that it was getting too hard for all of us to come up with 'individual' gifts that they didn't need or want or know what to do with, so ... Gotta get creative sometimes with the Old Folks, right? Someday WE will be old ... and crochety ... and longing for a sense of independence and self-worth ...

Pops was delighted to discover 'new' channels after the changeover. Did the same as you when we wintered in TX ... had the dish on our fifth wheel.

Turnip, wish we could help more people (one of our neighbors just has an antenna that we gave her so she needed some help) with the TV stuff. For some of them, it's really almost the only enjoyment they get. And that's just sad. If Pops didn't have his 150 channels, I'd have to provide more of the entertainment around here than I normally do. ~grinning~

-- Posted by gurusmom on Fri, Jun 26, 2009, at 7:26 PM

Greywolf

I also served inthe Air Force 1971-1975 Had a couple of trips to Bangkok was stationed in Taklie

Where I learned the best smoke in the world comes from lol.

-- Posted by DAB on Fri, Jun 26, 2009, at 7:35 PM

TripleS, I'll have to admit I'm kind of surprised that you didn't get much response when you posted this, "how would those of us so opposed to government rules, regulations and interference in our day to day lives be so sanguine on problems associated with the digital transition?"

I expected some outrage or at least upset. But then, maybe I shouldn't have been surprised based on the second quote.

"we only object when it affects something which has an impact on us". That reminded me of what Me"Lange often points out.

-- Posted by concerned4all on Fri, Jun 26, 2009, at 9:01 PM

Exactly what I was thinking Turnip - its a little gang and they stick together - it happened last night too. LOL

-- Posted by suelynn on Fri, Jun 26, 2009, at 4:56 PM

Frustrating isn't it? You guys are doing a great job though!

-- Posted by Theorist on Fri, Jun 26, 2009, at 9:01 PM

If she does have first hand knowledge, she would be a former girlfriend all of whom provided certain stimulation for me. I would like to think she is one of them. laughing, gigggle giggle (that's for you Warbler)

-- Posted by Socialism_Destroys on Thu, Jun 25, 2009, at 11:30 PM

Well, sorry cyclist, but it must have been your dreams....You are very defensive, especially about weight.

-- Posted by Theorist on Fri, Jun 26, 2009, at 9:07 PM

It happens to you all the time, doesn't it? I was surprised TripleS never noticed it before. I'm sure the little gang knows what they are doing. Kind of reminds me of bullies on the playground. I don't care, I've always stood up to the bullies on my terms and feel when the name calling starts, I've won. For some reason I get joy out of that. LOL

-- Posted by concerned4all on Fri, Jun 26, 2009, at 9:09 PM

Theorist, It definitely hits a nerve with him. LOL

-- Posted by concerned4all on Fri, Jun 26, 2009, at 9:14 PM

GurusMom, my Grandma was the same way about her television, Heaven help you if you interrupted her Price is Right! We lost her last year and I sure miss being 'needed' for entertainment or a panic stricken phone call cuz' she lost her signal.

-- Posted by Turnip on Fri, Jun 26, 2009, at 9:30 PM

Aw, Turnip, so sorry about your Grandma! It sounds like you were pretty close to her.

-- Posted by gurusmom on Fri, Jun 26, 2009, at 9:43 PM

Gurusmom, thanks, yes we were.

-- Posted by Turnip on Fri, Jun 26, 2009, at 10:55 PM

James,

I was like you and had Dish Network, then made the switch to Direct TV. When we were with Dish we never had the local channels, but they were part of the package with Direct TV.

But I was just testing to see what I might be missing on the extra channels on the local stuff. Did this in the motor home where I have the rooftop antenna, and if we are to find out wht goes on locally when we travel we have to depend on the antenna TV. My local channels go away just a bit past Tunica MS. We can watch them there, but not much further south. Same thing going north, get much past the Iowa line and our locals are gone. And while I have a good flat screen TV, it is a Panasonic built in 2004, right before they put a digital tuner in, so I have to have the box for it to work. And finding a signal can be a pain sometimes, but usually manage it eventually.

-- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Fri, Jun 26, 2009, at 11:03 PM


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