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WE don't have a health-care gap in the U.S. We have a chasm. However, without a public option, health-care reform will be worthless.
I agree with the person complaining about the the motorcycles that passed them and roared off. We are motorcyclists. The other day we were passed on the right side by a motorcycle because the rider was impatient. Don't paint all motorcyclists with the same brush. Some of us are careful with how we drive, and then there are others who do that type of stuff.
TV is so messed up nobody can watch it. Even the commercials are X-rated.
THE hate crimes bill has been passed by the House. I've been advised that in it is a provision that gives some czar the right to decide who ought to be put on a terrorist list and what to do with them. Already Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano's office has indicated that some who are in disagreement with the power base of this administration will be put on the list of potential terrorists and will be watched. Even our troops returning from conflict will be suspect. Should this not be of concern to all of us?
I know you have to be in constant contact with your children, your wife, your husband, your mother, your boyfriend, your girlfriend, but texting at dinner while you're out with someone or in a meeting is just plain rude.
I find it hard to believe that I'm the only person in Cape Girardeau who cannot receive the KFVS12 signal since the big switchover. I've rearranged my living room, put my antenna by an open window, bought a brand-new amplified antenna, and I'm still not able to get a signal. Is this is the best our government has for us?
I attended the Cape Girardeau Municipal Band concert June 17. There were two women who talked during the entire concert. That was rude and disruptive to the people wanting to hear the remarks about the music pieces and hear the music. If you want to talk, I would recommend you go to a restaurant or go to each other's homes to visit.
THERE was an article in the paper recently which said Social Security retirees got the largest cost-of-living raise this year at 5.8 percent. What the article didn't say was Part D monthly premiums increased and the supplemental to Medicare increased $10 a month. Also, when I went to get my prescription filled, each one is $5 higher.
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Higher costs
the cost of living went up also...
Health chasm: Chasm - defined as a marked division, separation, or difference. Hmm...a gap then?
Careful cyclists: hmmm.
X-rated TV: Real???? What channel is that??? I must be missing something! Call back now, I really want to know which channels are X-rated!
Terrorist list: Concerned??? Why? Minnesota Republican Congresswoman, Michele Bachmann decreed that our very own Congress and Senate were filled with potential socialists and communists. Heck, they could be terrorist too. You know, folks like her and John "McButters" McCain only have our best interest at heart. I mean, why else would he and his buddiies help to obliterate the Magna Carta and Habeas Corpus?? I mean...we wouldn't need those two things if they were really putting lists together, would we?
Rude texting: So now we can't text while driving, at dinner, or in a meeting. See what I mean folks! It never ends! Give a mile, and people just want to keep on, and keep on taking your rights away! When are all of you tattle-taling, noisy-faced, prats going to learn that it's YOUR complaining that takes away the rights of others??? Huh?? When are you??
No signal: You should have paid for Charter.
Talking at concert: From texting to talking, here we go. Sure...people should have manners, but instead of calling the police, calling speakout, calling your legislater, and calling your mommy...why don't you folks just approach the person you're having a problem with, and deal with it that way??? Huh??? Why???
Higher costs: Yeah...welcome to my world! Higher premiums, increases, and higher co-pays.
Health chasm -- ridiculous. Almost 90% of Americans are happy with their health coverage. We have the finest health system in the world -- which attracts patients from all across the globe. We even provide health coverage for illegal aliens. Heck we'd provide health coverage for alien aliens. Most of our challenge is gov'ment interference and runaway legal costs. But you are right, gov'ment health care reform will be worse than worthless, it will be incredibly harmful. Unfortunately lawmakers are not bound by the oath of 'Do no Harm'.
Careful cyclists -- ditto. Careless bikers are generally risking their own lives.
X-rated TV -- reminds me of some great Zappa. '...I am the slime from your video, oozing along 'cross your living room floor.' Years ahead of his time...RIP.
Terrorist list -- it's pretty scary when you have to be more concerned about the list makers than who ends up on the list. Be afraid.
Rude texting -- a sign of the times.
No signal -- no clue.
Talking at concert -- should've been texting.
Higher costs -- yepper. Reminds me of another tune from the past. 'Thanks to the man that gives you. Haven't got your own. That's the way the world is. Get just what you can. Wake up again tomorrow. A little less a man, ...' We need more James Gang and less gov'ment.
Good morning! ☻
Health chasm...yes, it is pretty bad.
Careful cyclists....good point!
X-rated TV...commercials are x-rated????
Terrorist list....concerned, yes. I am also concerned about the people who take matters into their own hands.
Rude texting....rude, do people even know what that means anymore?
No signal.....that sucks!
Talking at concert...why don't u just say something! It seems some don't realize they are being rude.
Higher costs...there is always a catch. ☻
Megalomania, why are you so confrontational and rude? Every time someone says something in speak out about someone needing manners or anything like that, you answer with 'Get some ####!' or 'Go say something to them.' People that have such few manners can't and won't here what anyone says. Manners are something you either have or you don't, no matter how many people tell you about it. In most cases, if something is said, they act like you have no manners. It is the meek who shall inherit the earth, not the loud and obnoxious. Hope you're hearing me.
TruthofTheMatter,
I certainly don't always agree with Megalomania, but certainly do in this matter as we have become a nation of people who expects and demands that someone else, preferably some governmental entity take care of all of our problems.
In this case, the first step would be to speak with the individual and if they refuse, then go from there if it is that important to you.
WOW! I missed some pretty 'deep' discussions last night. A goat, Rick! Polka dots I understand, but a goat...well, different strokes for different folks, I guess. ☻
TripleS, I don't expect someone else to take care of anything. I expect each individual to grow up and respect others, learn some manners, and act like adults. I've yet to speak to someone with that kind of public manners and see them do anything other than refuse. As far as going away from there, it's everywhere. Where am I to go, Mars?
Ruin healthcare? Yes we can.
Triple the national debt? Yes we can.
Nix freedom of speech? Yes we can.
Label truth as hate? Yes we can.
Take us to the brink of nuclear war? Yes we can.
Manage to make Iran hate us more? Yes we can.
Destroy the meaning of marriage? Yes we can.
Change from democracy to socialism? Yes we can.
Restart the baby genocide machine? Yes we can.
Win an election with no platform? Yes we did.
Hasten the decline of America? Yes we will.
Admit that this is the wrong guy for the job?
NEVER.
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Morning, meathead! ☻
Truth
It seems that most of your analysis has hit the nail on the head. The head of GWB. I wonder what all the Obama critics would have said if Iran or any other country would have tried to interfer with our election of 2000? This was the biggest slap in the face in the history of our country and a poor example to the rest of the world. Look what the results got us.
TruthOfTheMatter
are you suggesting that Megalomania is a loud mouth pompous *** ? ...hmmm , i gotta think about that one for a while..
Social:
I know that GWB was never POTUS. That honor goes to Cheney. GWB was at the mercy of Dick. I don't have time at the moment, but could you do some research and see if Barney has any relationship with Larry Craig or Mark Foley. It could make for a very interesting love triangle. Just out of curiosity and kind of off the subject, do you consider Medicare/Medicaid socialized?
-peter puffing Bawny Fwank
-Every time he opens his mouth, it's unbelievable what comes out(or what goes in)
-- Posted by Socialism_Destroys on Thu, Jun 25, 2009, at 9:55 AM
Come on SD, I realize you dont like the man, hell I dont either, but you dont need to result to posts like this. It automatically taints your credibility. You can, and have, debated the issues in a cordial manner, why dont you stick to that.
This forum has spiraled into a cesspool of negativity and hatred. We're supposed to be adults here people. Debate the issues.
TruthOfTheMatter,
I'm rude?? How? Responding to the ignorance of some of the callers? The Missourian allots us the opportunity to respond. Are you better than me? Are your rights more important than mine?
How do people learn about manners?? Laws? Or Parents? The ONLY way to change an "attitude" is to confront it personally, (if it's that important to you) but the police or a legislator is NOT the way to do it.
Laws don't change attitudes.
Proof:
(manditory liability insurance) The good people get it like they always did, the bad still don't.
(Laws against guns) Criminals still get them
Laws that put bad folks in jail allowing them to set on their butts and get TV and conjugal visitation (they still come back to the streets and swipe purses from 84-year-old ladies.
TRUE JUSTICE, TRUE ATTITUDE ADJUSTMENT, AND CONFRONTING THESE ISSUES HEAD ON, instead of wussifying the situation and handling it with kid gloves and bogus laws.
Grow a set of bollox TruthOfTheMatter. Instead of coming on here calling me rude, you should have asked the person to stop texting or the people to stop talking at the concert!
If their manners bother you that much, you beat the living heck out of them within an inch of their life. Get real TruthOfTheMatter there are three types of people. Those who know better, those who don't, and those who don't care. Calling SO isn't going to change their manners.
Just like IRAN and Korea, holding hands, negotiating, and being nice won't change their mind. Try a nuke! It worked on Japan.
Folks you have to tread lightly around Megalo these days, he's kind of cranky!
What with his air conditioning on the fritz and it's been hot in his house and now he has to get a new one, laying out all that hard earned cash.
But today's the day his new one is installed and after he basks in that cool dry air for a couple of days.... he will be his old sweet self by Monday!
LOL! Wheels!! They're working on it as we speak. I've even been polishing silver, just to keep focused. I don't know about being sweeter, but I'll sure have more fun being a pompous *** (as Rick said) doing so in a colder home.
Btw...total bill is just under $10K., but I'm getting $1100 on the Carrier rebate, $325 from Ameren, and $1500 in the tax rebate. The inside of that Williamson looked brand new Wheels. Would have lasted another 100-years and drained my wallet dry while setting there and looking pretty.
Megalomania: A rule to live by; respect the property of others.
When societies were small and local, people understood that rule. Now that society has became confused with government, few understand it.
Government is consistent in its violation of that rule. Government teaches the children.
LOL! I'm thinking about a new roof and windows now.
Nall,
This isn't about me, I do respect the rights of others. I'm not the one talking on phones in meetings, texting at the table, and talking during concerts. I pretty much keep to myself, but if someone does those things in my presence, I say something...
I don't call the police, my mommy, or my legislator. I go right up to them and say something. (accountibility) Even if they don't stop, at least I've said my piece.
James, on a recent trip south I noticed what looks like a new structure right their in town before the MFA, close to the grocery store, I believe....any idea what that's gonna be??? just curious.
Megalomania: That statement wasn't aimed at you. It was a general statement that covers why things appear to be getting worse in this country in many regards. Don't take it personally.
Turnip: A lot of stuff is being built out on HWY 25. There is a bar and some other businesses that were built across from the grocery store. I'm going to Advance today and will check it out.
Nall,
I'll agree, it's the cause of the degradation in this country. Kids swiping old ladies purses, men caught in public parks doing lude acts to one another. I really, really, really, wished Huckabee would have won.
Turnip: They knocked down one block of the old downtown. Someone said that they are going to build a medical center there. My old hometown is changing.
**Breaking News**
Farrah Fawcett Dead!
R.I.P. Charlie's Angel, now you're in heaven for real.
RIP Farrah Fawcett you will be missed. Enjoy your time with the Angels in Heaven...
Megalo
The rebates certainly help and also helps insure you are getting higher efficiency equipment or you wouldn't qualify, at least for the tax rebate.
Windpows should help lower your bills also. The roof will only matter if you put a light colored one on to reflect heat in the summer. Of course you may need it to keep your new equipment dry. Make sure your attic insulation is up to par.
Maybe you can enter the old unit in a contest or something and pick up another check. Maybe the Smithsonian would be interested.
James,
Is Turnip perhaps talking about the buiding that has been under construction for what seems like 4 or 5 years. Never could figure out what that guy is up to. If you know or find out, let me know, because I'm curious.... or just plain nosey!
Hey Truth....
I see you have your nice RW talking points out this morning, but I'm a little unclear on a few things. Some of them seem a little old, debunked and outdated. Please help a guy like me out by explaing what this current administration has done to change some of the items on your list.
Ruin healthcare? Yes we can.
What bill has passed or how has Barack done this already? You may want to tap the bracks a little on the word "Ruin" for now cause I havn't read or seen the final plan as of yet.
Triple the national debt? Yes we can.
SURPRISE! A democrate increasing government spending. Don't forget that $700B of that money was allocated prior to the current administration.
Nix freedom of speech? Yes we can.
Now what has Barack done to nix your freedom of speech? Have the brown shirts shown up at your house?
Label truth as hate? Yes we can.
I'd like to respond to this one, but I don't even know what the heck you are talking about. With a little more information I may be able to give you a decent reply, but as it stands I'm lost. I'd like to include that little emoticon of the guy scatching his head but I don't know how to do that.
Take us to the brink of nuclear war? Yes we can.
What has Barack done to take us to the BRINK of nuclear war? Your line sounds good, but I am unaware of any policy changes that have increased this posibility. What has been done differently in regards to NK and Iran that separates Barack from GWB? I think you have been spending too much time in that echo chamber, sounds scary though. Playing the fear card worked for a few years back, but I think we're done with that for a bit.
Manage to make Iran hate us more? Yes we can.
Now I thought the current talking point was that the administration hasn't done enough or anything in regards to the current situation in Iran. Are you talking about the government hating us more or the people? It's a little hard to tell with that big broad brush of yours who is doing the hating.
Destroy the meaning of marriage? Yes we can.
By offering medical benefits to same sex government employees. Is this what you mean, because other than that change I am unaware of this "Destroying" you speak of.
Change from democracy to socialism? Yes we can.
This train left the station LONG before Barack was President. If you thought a liberal President was going to shrink the size and scope government you may need to study up on your history.
Restart the baby genocide machine? Yes we can.
Did the President all ready overturn Rowe V. Wade? I must have missed this one too.
Win an election with no platform? Yes we did.
You must have not followed the campaign very close, because to me it appears he is doing exactly what he said. Healthcare reform, tax cuts, Iraq exit timetable, etc. Come on now, your better than that. You sound very partisan and uninformed when you say "No platform."
Hasten the decline of America? Yes we will.
Really? How is that? Believe it or not America is going to be pretty much the same after his last days on 2017.
Admit that this is the wrong guy for the job?
NEVER.
You are correct on this one and for that I give you credit. I believe the country was tired of the way things have been run the last 8 years and was ready to go down a different path. Two wars, a failing economy and little respect around the world made the decision a fairly easy one. Not to mention the candidates your side ran were not too appealing.
Debating the actual facts is a lot more interesting to me than just throwing stuff out there, but hey that's just me. You do what you need to do to get you through the day.
Oh yea......
Next time don't forget to include the one about Barack coming to take your guns. That always gets a lot of play.
Take care!
From Last Night:
Wheels: That reminded me (the Biblical System of Typing); used to watch Grandpa typing ... memory is that he was probably doing at least 45-50 wpm with his hunt-and-peck, using just two fingers!
As for your keyboard ... ouch! On a laptop, guess you'd have to replace the whole thing? ... or ... I've seen a son take apart his keyboard and fix little glitches, so maybe that's a possibility?
James, were WWI and WWII our only declared wars? What about the 'Civil War?' Seems like Korea was a 'conflict,' maybe? Anyway, that was what I thought I remembered about declaring war ... that the power fell to Congress.
I didn't see a video on China buying gold/property through the link ... That's a little disturbing news, though ... thinking about it. I've forgotten ... Is there something prohibiting foreign nationals to own property in the U.S.?
Megal, not surprised at the wait for pulmonologist. The one Pops had the first year we lived here moved; seems like there wasn't one in Cape for some time after that. Hoping if there was a misinterpretatioin of your tests, it's in YOUR favor!
I still have a Logan's Run beach towel with an image of Farrah on it. I think my brother and I choked down 16 boxes of Quisp to earn it. Would it be in bad taste to put it on eBay so soon?
The heat is already getting to me. I can't drink enough Stag to stay cool, and even the hope and change flunkies don't irritate me much anymore. I feel like a dirty Nazi.
Guess I will just sit back, stay drunk, and wait for the Brain Police to arrive while soaking in the sweet, sweet A/C.
Believe it or not America is going to be pretty much the same after his last days on 2017.
-- Posted by CapeCrusader on Thu, Jun 25, 2009, at 12:21 PM
Very doubtful
Stag beer..isn't this hot water poured over corn?
Just like IRAN and Korea, holding hands, negotiating, and being nice won't change their mind. Try a nuke! It worked on Japan.
-- Posted by Megalomania on Thu, Jun 25, 2009, at 11:07 AM
Now Megal - that only worked because we had nukes and others didn't - different world today. Nukes are everywhere now.
Wheels: We are heading for Advance shortly, will try to find out about the building.
GurusMom: If we go by the Constitution, then WWII was our last war. If you remember, back in the 60's, you may be too young, but Korea and Vietnam were called conflicts because Congress did not make a formal declaration of war. Later, we started calling them both wars, even without a formal declaration.
"Believe it or not America is going to be pretty much the same after his last days on 2017."
-- Posted by CapeCrusader on Thu, Jun 25, 2009, at 12:21 PM
Don't believe it and if it is then his presidency will have been a waste of time.
Purse snatched from 84-year-old woman inside Schnucks
Anybody else notice they turned the comments off?
Interesting statistics on page 9. You have to have Adobe reader.
http://www.doc.mo.gov/pdf/Offender%20Pro...
Hmmm...something's not right here. Now they've removed all of and are preventing further posts on the purse snatcher. Sheesh!
Wheels, if it is the same bldg. it has had a facelift recently. It seems like there was a new restaurant as well, perhaps bbq???
Spank, I have seen them do that before, it must have gotten 'nasty'. I posted on it this morning & I didn't notice anything unusual, of course that was hours ago.
Yep Mega. Free speach. Gotta love it.
Rude Texting: The need to feel important, basically...When one's life, or the company they're in, is pretty boring ... cheer up by texting? Text all you want ... except when driving, please.
Higher Costs: SS raises are based on COLA. This past year, Part B was not raised by SS. However, the Part D and supplemental premiums are determined by the insurance carriers, as are the co-pays. Therefore, an article about SS would not necessarily include information on individual insurance premiums?
This year, there will be no SS increase ... Meaning COLA did not rise? Actually, COLA is not really a very accurate yardstick by which to measure the cost of living, in that it is based on the price of things that especially seniors would not be purchasing. However, the Part B premiums will rise, but only for those not currently on SS, according to a recent article that I didn't quite comprehend.
***blogbudsman ... What do you think ... if government is determined to 'do something' about health insurance ... What about the idea of ONLY looking at those who do not have it because they realistically and honestly cannot afford it? Looking at the entire population includes people who DO have insurance and are satisfied with it, people on Medicare and Medicaid who probably are satisfied with it, people who are covered by their company policies -- just seems like overkill and probably too much government control, to me.
I really liked this ... "...it's pretty scary when you have to be more concerned about the list makers than who ends up on the list."
CapeCrusader I appreciated your post at 12:21 PM
Good, honest effort to answer those statements, but know they will fall on many deaf ears here. On most issues, I don't even try anymore because THEY (that sweet little gang of 3 or 4) know it all. LOL - correction - think they know it all.
Lumpy,
Logan's Run! One of my favorites, and Farrah was certainly hot in that one. Keep that towel!
suelynn,
You are correct about the nukes and Japan, now we need something stronger!
Reality Bomb?
Excerpts from my second favorite Megalomaniac.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tc8DDyjbv...
Wheels, if it is the same bldg. it has had a facelift recently. It seems like there was a new restaurant as well, perhaps bbq???
-- Posted by Turnip on Thu, Jun 25, 2009, at 1:25 PM
Turnip
The building I was referring to has been under construction for a long time, not aware of any others at the moment. But that one I referred to has my curiosity aroused. Not sure there is a plan or if the guy just needs something to do.
It does boil down to nosieness though as I see no way it affects me. More power to the builder.
That's a deep list (9:14 am), Truth ... Makes the points seem more realistic (and frightening) than reading lengthy articles about each. As so often happens lately, makes me sad to agree with most of it ... But ... we've been heading toward some of those things for a long, long time now.
CapeCrusader ... the list of Yes We Can isn't saying Yes It Has ... Without some vigilance (or most likely even with it) and protest from We, The People ... yes, it can. Of course, I'm looking at list as generic (which it wasn't actually meant to be) ... with no specific president or party aspect.
However "... it appears he is doing exactly what he said." I was hoping reducing government, inspecting 'line-by-line,' would be a priority. Instead, we seem to have even more new positions or departments, if I understand it. Then I was hoping for our withdrawal from Iraq ... but certainly didn't see the possibility of getting into still another 'situation' elsewhere.
But SD ... darn ... They keep getting re-elected ... What does that say for their supporters, hm? I know! It says that it couldn't be any worse if we had term limits ... and it might even be better. Can you see the supporters of politicians like you mentioned out beating the bushes every election year, trying to scare up someone JUST like the ones they're so enamored of? ~grinning at the mental picture~ OH! Who is it who has a bill wanting to remove the presidential term limit? Real nutcase ... He's done it 4-5 times or more over the years, with little or no support. As difficult as it seems to be to get rid of even the worst of our politicians ... I really do like the idea of Term Limits for all of them. The argument that we would also be terminating the 'really good' ones? Percentage-wise, still view that as a small price to pay for ...
Producer ... "This forum has spiraled into ..." It seems to do that every now and then ... but so far it usually kind of bounces back, it seems.
Rick,
Steak, Taters, And Gravy!
Megalo,
I used to like Logan's Run until they started showing it on the History Channel.
gurusmom,
You should really consider changing your handle to simply "guru". Your posts reek of reason, and they are a pleasure to read. Especially after all those posts about cheezoid 70's sci-fi B-movies, and cheap beer; among other topics! Keep posting please!
suelynn,
Why are you in such a hurry to worship at the alter in another in a long line of mere puppets? The last real POTUS was JFK. Don't buy the propaganda. Try individualism - it's more refreshing than Stag on a hot summer day!
Mom
Regards the SS situation. I mentioned this awhile back, but after I received the 5.8% increase my bottom line decreased because of Part B.
What happened was in 2007 I decided to close out a retirement fund that I had for many years and was not pleased with it's performance.
On consultation with my daughter (a CPA) we decided rather than reinvest, just pay the taxes because I would be 70 1/2 and have to start drawing down anyway. So in April 2008 they got their taxes. And when things crashed late 2008 it looked like that was an excellent decision.
Now SS recalcs part B charge to me for 2009 and this income shows up and put me over the threshold.
So for 2009 my wife and I each get to pay an extra ninety some odd dollars per month for our Part B. Next year that excess charge comes back off. Hard to win with the government, let me tell you.
Same thing if you happen to sell your home or any other investment that increased in value, even if inflation caused it. Try to create a hedge against extra expenses in your retirement, they get even with you. Better to be a complete ward of the state in their opinion, that way you are obligated and have to feel grateful.
Suelynn,
While I may not agree with all of it, I also found Capecrusader's post interesting and would like to read a reasoned rebuttal.
I did think the statement indicating the country would be no different when he left office; isn't that why he ran? This country does not control other world events and the presidential powers are not really all that great, so absent exigent situations, the President's ability to significantly change the course of events on their own is quite small. A fact the President often if not always denies when good things happen and emphasizes when the opposite occurs.
It is my "opinion/belief that this country will be greatly changed at the end of the Obama Administration; whether it is for the better or worse and what role he will have played remains to be seen.
suelynn,
Why are you in such a hurry to worship at the alter in another in a long line of mere puppets? -- Posted by lumpy on Thu, Jun 25, 2009, at 2:19 PM
I'm not, but I am willing to give the guy a chance to right things if he can and I'm not willing to buy a load of crap just because someone on here says it. The issues we face today, were a long time coming and can't be fixed in a day or 6 months. And they weren't created by THIS president. Just want some fairness... For a change of pace, he seems to be trying to do what he promised, as current events allow. Of course that's just MY opinion and I'll continue to watch as things develop.
Wheels, I'm with ya, I'm just being nosey a well. Although with the inlaws living in that area it would be nice to have some souces of entertainment and perhaps a nice restaurant. James is on the case, we'll have our answers soon enough. ☻
TripleS - good post and I too expect things to be different at the end of Obama's run. To be honest, I don't know what the changes will be and I hope we are better for it. We have been changed by a lot of world events, even in my lifetime and I can't predict what will happen now, but I understand this. I'm not going to doom and gloom us based on what a few folks here have to say.
It is my "opinion/belief that this country will be greatly changed at the end of the Obama Administration; whether it is for the better or worse and what role he will have played remains to be seen.
-- Posted by TripleS on Thu, Jun 25, 2009, at 2:25 PM
Triple S
I agree with you that this country will be greatly changed by the time this administration leaves office.
I however, am not optimistic that the change will be for the better. Bigger more intrusive government is in the making. The promised transparency is not happening, in fact there is as much or a greater degree of secretism in this administration as there was in the previous one.
While he did not create this mess alone, he was a party to it as a member of the senate. This current situation has been building for a few decades now.
Sooner or later he is going to have to quit passing the buck and take ownership. Currently his repeated, I didn't do its are beginning to sound like an adolescent school boy.
Socialism is my biggest concern.
Turnip
Try Cheese Sticks at Sams, or go to Mario's south of town. Ummh Uh!
Will do Wheels, thanks!
Rick, have you checked on your 'ugly baby' thread, someone was not too happy with your topic. lol
Suelynn,
I am really not so much into "doom and gloom" either though some things do concern me, not so much for myself because at my age in all likelihood the Grim Reaper will catch up to me before world events, but for my kids and grandkids and yes much of it began prior to Obama. I have seen little if any difference in the actions of either party; rhetoric yes, actions no.
I don't know that Obama can reverse our course, I can only hope it doesn't accelerate. For the record, I did not like McCain either, none of them really impressed me all that much.
Megalomania, Not sure where you got the idea that I expect authorities of any kind to change peoples manners. That never came up in my post. Never said I was better, nor that my rights were more important. You are, however, a prime example of the mannerless people I am talking about. I didn't call my mommy, legislator, or police. Apparently making things up is a right you adhere to frequently. You're either five or just enjoy acting like it. At some point you and others like you shold grow up, speak truth, and get some manners. (real accountability) Never said anything should be handled with baby gloves either. Remember when I wrote that people like you won't here me when I say something to them? Well, thanks, you've proved my point.
CapeCrusader ,
you wrote:
'What bill has passed or how has Barack done this already? You may want to tap the bracks a little on the word "Ruin" for now cause I havn't read or seen the final plan as of yet.'
Apparently you do little or no research, as that is his main objevtive at the moment. I am in the VA healthcare system, which is what his plan will turn into, and yes, I've got coverage. Coverage by doctors that don't give a rip about my health or anyone elses. They ask the patients what they want don, then tell them that it's not covered and load 'em up with a bunch of pills that only make things worse.
You also wrote:'SURPRISE! A democrate increasing government spending. Don't forget that $700B of that money was allocated prior to the current administration.'
Again, research. It is a fact that even with the 700B accounted for, Obama has tripled the deficit. Check it out.
you wrote:'Now what has Barack done to nix your freedom of speech? Have the brown shirts shown up at your house?' and 'I'd like to respond to this one, but I don't even know what the heck you are talking about. With a little more information I may be able to give you a decent reply, but as it stands I'm lost. I'd like to include that little emoticon of the guy scatching his head but I don't know how to do that.'
Have you not seen the 'hate' crime/speech bill? The one that he has said he will sign, when presented? A preacher cannot read what the Bible says about homosexuality or anything else considered 'hate' in this loopy world without fear of jail time and other punishment. Already happening in Canada and parts of Europe. What's worse is that there is no hate in those words.
More from you:'What has Barack done to take us to the BRINK of nuclear war? Your line sounds good, but I am unaware of any policy changes that have increased this posibility. What has been done differently in regards to NK and Iran that separates Barack from GWB? I think you have been spending too much time in that echo chamber, sounds scary though. Playing the fear card worked for a few years back, but I think we're done with that for a bit.' and 'Now I thought the current talking point was that the administration hasn't done enough or anything in regards to the current situation in Iran. Are you talking about the government hating us more or the people? It's a little hard to tell with that big broad brush of yours who is doing the hating'
I'm talking about all the gum flapping he's doing, with no promise of backing it up, if needed. All we heard about was how this administration was going to win 'em over with diplomacy, yet his words have done nothing but tick both countries off. At least when Bush did it, they knew he meant it and shut their traps. Not so in the recent news that you apparently missed.
You said, 'By offering medical benefits to same sex government employees. Is this what you mean, because other than that change I am unaware of this "Destroying" you speak of.' benefits are one thing, but he has publicly backed the gay marriage deal. Do some research on the meaning of marriage. I suggest you start by looking up the definition given by Noah Webster in his original 1828 dictionary.
more you, 'Did the President all ready overturn Rowe V. Wade? I must have missed this one too.'
No, but he did overturn the ban on partial birth abortions along with the ban stopping babies from being killed just as they are born.
Even more you, 'You must have not followed the campaign very close, because to me it appears he is doing exactly what he said. Healthcare reform, tax cuts, Iraq exit timetable, etc. Come on now, your better than that. You sound very partisan and uninformed when you say "No platform."'
I did follow the election campaigns. He ran on a blank canvas of 'hope' and came up with a few things toward the end, but by then the race was over. His reforming of healthcare is a nightmare. Taxes will go up. The exit Iraq timetable will leave Iraq worse than it was before we went in.
You also said, 'Really? How is that? Believe it or not America is going to be pretty much the same after his last days on 2017.'
Hope his last days in office are sooner than that. Why don't you keep a journal of everything that goes downhill and then restate that sentence in 2017. Doubt you'll be able to.
You ended with,'You are correct on this one and for that I give you credit. I believe the country was tired of the way things have been run the last 8 years and was ready to go down a different path. Two wars, a failing economy and little respect around the world made the decision a fairly easy one. Not to mention the candidates your side ran were not too appealing.
Debating the actual facts is a lot more interesting to me than just throwing stuff out there, but hey that's just me. You do what you need to do to get you through the day.
Oh yea......
Next time don't forget to include the one about Barack coming to take your guns. That always gets a lot of play.'
The 8 years was up no matter who you voted for. Seems to me that you don't go out and get the facts to debate, so I don't know how you think it's what I need to get through the day. I could care less about getting my guns. Don't have any. Don't want any. Gotta love your stereotyping though. Typical fodder when ever I post around here.
Wheels, I don't understand "... pay an extra ninety some odd dollars per month for our Part B." Both my and Pops' SS amount increased, but there was no increase in our Part D for this year. I do realize that, unfortunately, a person's SS income (for tax purposes) includes the Part B that is deductible. I'm under the impression that everyone on SS pays the same amount for Part B ... but that's only because both of our 'premiums' for it are the same.
Ironically ... no one listened to us back when, with our first retirement account, someone decided that it was a GREAT idea to stop taxing our contributions as income. As it is, a portion is not taxed, but the larger portion is. We could have afforded those taxes much easier while working than after retirement.
You're right, though (of course) ... Just about everything the government does when it comes to taxation almost boils down to punishing those who do try to plan, budget, etc. Our income taxes went up drastically (I was stunned) for 2008, due to some increases in our private retirement income. Um ... thanks, Clinton, for making SS income taxable, huh?
Don't give me too much credit, lumpy, for what I post. I just try to kind of be myself, and offer my own opinions (or sometimes even knowledge) ... and often I really should keep my fingers off the keys ...
Pleased to see that, TripleS ("the President's ability to significantly change the course of events on their own is quite small.") That's what I thought I learned in the course of Civic classes ... so when we read something is all the President's fault ... or the Pres. did this or that ... I keep wondering if I just imagined those classes, or if something changed while I wasn't paying attention! ~grinning~ But ... certainly (and reluctantly) agree with you that in the end, this country may be greatly changed ... just more obviously changed because the changes are/may be occuring faster than the government normally works things.
suelynn! We agree! "The issues we face today, were a long time coming and can't be fixed in a day or 6 months." One thing kind of bothers me, though ... and that's the fact that we (our government leaders) are trying to change too many things too fast ... Evidenced perhaps by bills that are hundreds of pages long and definitely couldn't have been read in their entirety, let alone studied intelligently, before they were passed.
So, I'm just a little nervous about our government plowing headlong to 'fix' things too rapidly and without enough planning, foresight, etc.
Wheels,
Honestly, I can't think of a single thing Obama did in the Senate one way or the other, so I see his contribution to this "mess" as insignificant, though as a Senator he must accept some of the responsibility.
Like I said in an earlier post, a President's powers are pretty limited and he can't really do much of anything without the House and Senate. Regardless of the involvement, approval, speeches and authorization of Congress, Iraq is known as George Bush's War; couldn't have happened without the consent and cooperation of the House and Senate. Right now I can't name any Democrats who voted to authorize action who are willing to take responsibility for their part.
I agree that he can no longer continue to blame all of this on the prior administration though they all do. 09/11 was George Bush's fault because he did not adequately deal with the Terrorist Problem in eight months and the present economic situation is Obama's fault because he hasn't fixed it in five or six months. Our present problems were developing over the years through succeeding administrations and if they are to be rectified, it will take a long time to do so.
While I do accept that Obama seems more comfortable with the drift toward Socialism as some would call it, no politician will bring about Socialism, the populace will as I see its precepts becoming more and more acceptable and desirable to the population in general and they will walk through that door hand in hand with the politicians.
Of course I could just be some rambling old man no longer in touch with reality and be way off the mark; don't think anyone can say for sure what will happen, just what we fear or want.
Yeah, I know too long.
truthofthematter,
"making things up is a right you adhere to frequently."
What did I make up?? You're the one who yanked my chain. I wasn't addressing you in my post, was I? You were obviously defending the caller, for no reason.
Oh please...expound on what I have made up?? Love it when you folks pull this one! Come on now! I'm waiting. (and don't just cite my post about you either) Bring it on!!
"It is the meek who shall inherit the earth, not the loud and obnoxious. Hope you're hearing me."
-- Posted by TruthOfTheMatter on Thu, Jun 25, 2009, at 8:07 AM
I'm not seeking anything! I speak when I see BS, and I speak when the truth isn't exactly being portrayed. Maybe you should adhere to your posting name "Truthofthematter" instead of starting arguements you have no intention of finishing. Obviously, something I said hit a chime with you. Did I tell the truth on something that hacked you off? Did I pwess a button? Him hot under the wings and aggitated? Can't handle the truth? Blind?
TruthOfTheMatter...ahh, I know exactly what's going on now. LOL! *Rolling Eyes* And you're going around calling me childish?? Welcome to the Megalomania club! LOL!
funkle
Just part of being a pompous *** Rick.
Mom,
Everybody does pay the same for Part B, up to a point. There is an income threshhold that can be reached by a one time event, such as, but not limited to, selling your home, selling a piece of investment property, or pulling the money out of a retirement account.
Say for instance you were able to purchase an investment property for $15,000 35 years ago, and that is realistic, you sell it today and you get $150,000 for it. You can justify $35,000 as improvements over the years. So technically you have made a $100,000. You owe income taxes and the $100,000 gets added to your income for calculating your Part B costs, and you get a punitive charge of ninety plus dollars per month per each on your Part B. And the only real profit on your investment was caused by inflation for the most part.
Triple S
While Obama wasn't in the senate all that long, his unwillingess to make a decision on the tough issues, evidenced by his voting present so many times, was a contributing factor in my feelings toward him as a politician.
You are correct that the president is not supposed to be all powerful, I believe Obama is assuming authority not deligated by the constitution. Example, all of the czars being created, only answerable to him. The firing of the chairman at General Motors is not in his job description either to my knowledge.
But again you are correct, he will have to have the consensus of the sheep of this country to lead us into socialism. And maybe that is the true reason for the uneasiness in the pit of my stomach. There are days when I wonder where all of the real Americans went. Too many people rooting for a place at the trough. Talk about greed.
I fear that maybe we are both too old for this, and maybe we should just join the livestock at the trough. We won't be around to see this excess we are living paid for anyway.
The Democrat and Republican crap we are watching argued back and forth shows that people are not thinking. Can they not see both parties are as
corrupt as a Chicago Mob Boss?
Wheels, Turnip: I drove down 25 but didn't see any construction, other that the state providing a turn lane, that wasn't completed.
I might have missed something, I usually do. I didn't go all the way down to the COOP, I turned around at the gravel company.
Micheal Jackson has died ....
As far as politics goes; no matter which party is elected, the bureaucracy remains the same. That bureaucracy belongs to the Democrats and Republicans. Each party gives the pretense of change, the same ole BS, but nothing changes except an enlargement of what you have, a government that benefits from failure.
James,
Thaks for the effort. As I stated earlier, it was pure nosienss on my part. Not likely to affect my life in one way or the other.
And Turnip will survive. She wanted another restaurant in Advance. I told her to go to Sam's for Cheese Sticks, (forgot to tell her that the pizza is good also) or to Mario's where it is Ummh Uh Good!
HOLY CRAP! Michael Jackon IS dead!!! What????
heart attack , Megalomania....he joins Farrah...
Rick,
I'm actually floored. He's an 80s icon in music regardless of his personal challenges. Sheesh, he's only 8-years-old than me.
Btw Wheels, Air is up and going, still more stuff to do tomorrow, but we're cooling down.
Well, I'm off to mourn.
Thanks anyway, James. I'll check it out again next time I'm down that way along with Marios/Sam's. ☻
...waiting for Me'Lange to change her avatar to Micheal Jackson now..hehe..just kidding TJ , just kidding...
RIP Michael Jackson, say hey to Ed and Farrah for us.
Megalo,
Yeah and he was more than 21 years younger than me!
Hear that everybody, Megalo's new A/C is running so if yours is giving trouble, go stay with Megalo.
Or perhaps you just want to save a couple of bucks.
Glad to hear it Megalo!
MTV is already running a marathon. Good tribute, he help make MTV. Awesome VDJ back in those days.
Me'Lange: I thought that your avatar was you. I also thought she is one hot babe.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,5290...
This the climate Maobamallah and his merry band of left wing fiends have created.
Congratulations Turnip, Suey and Warbler.
-- Posted by Socialism_Destroys on Thu, Jun 25, 2009, at 5:14 PM
OMG small one, you've GOT to be be kidding! Obama's fault - in 2007? Sadly, your credibility drops even lower.
So what is Obama doing about the North Korean threat?? Haven't heard a peep out of him...
Regan would have served them up on a silver platter by now....
maxsmom13 How?
...North Korea wouldn't pull such stunts--and didn't--if Reagan was president...
Wheels, I forgot to mention 'transparency.' I found a website the other day that was headlined something to the effect that 'President Obama is finding Transparency isn't Possible' ... but when I went to it, there was nothing there! Kind of an ironic moment for me then ...
Didn't know that about the Part B calculations (thanks for taking the time to explain it) ... That's ... that's almost criminal--regardless of WHY your income rose! Who else in the country ever pays insurance premiums based on income? Certainly our congressmen don't! Now, can you tell me ... since my memory is fogged even though I've done our taxes for decades ... but it seems like our SS and Medicare contributions were taxed as income (not deductible). Were they? If so ... then being taxed on SS income appears to be that old 'double-taxation' we used to talk about now and then. Of course, we're double-taxed to death anyway, although there are 'explanations' saying we really aren't ...
Aw, geez ... "... [the president] will have to have the consensus of the sheep of this country to lead us into socialism. And maybe that is the true reason for the uneasiness in the pit of my stomach." Reading my mind, Wheels? I too keep saying I'm too old to care ... but I still do.
As for the parties ... for the most part, they both have latched onto mostly mundane, rather unimportant (in the whole scheme of things) issues that they know the average voter holds dear ... So ...
Thanks, James ... that's about it in a nutshell ... so I deleted most of the lengthy comments I was going to make: "... no matter which party is elected, the bureaucracy remains the same. That bureaucracy belongs to the Democrats and Republicans. Each party gives the pretense of change ... but nothing changes except an enlargement of what you have, a government that benefits from failure."
If the US goes to war with Korea, there will be no civilians running the show. It becomes a military matter from the start. Roosevelt knew this in WWII from his days in the navy. There will be no neo-cons directing traffic this time. The president will be on the sidelines, watching.
Why don't YOU go ahead and tell everyone why you call me "suey"?
And so is my nickname for you!
Explain how my name fits.
As much as you have of mine.
True - so why did you say it was "fitting"
Another small one chimes in. Must be true cause it definitely hit a nerve.
Now all the show-off talk cause another boy has shown up. You guys go ahead and enjoy each other.
That's the best you've got - wow kinda whimpy - don't ya just hate it when the girl calls you out? LOL
SLAM! - are you kidding? What a DA