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Speak Out 4/21/09

Tuesday, April 21, 2009

Patrol complaint

I was driving down Kings-highway when a highway patrolman cut into my lane and almost clipped the front of my car. I had to slam on my brakes, and the woman behind me slammed on her brakes. The patrolman didn't signal. I honked my horn, but he didn't acknowledge that he saw me. Just a little bit further down the road, another car careened across two lanes of traffic into the turn lane right in front of the patrolman, who did nothing. I called the highway patrol office and spoke to a supervisor. I gave him the license plate number of the patrolman and described what he had done. The supervisor said that his officers aren't perfect and make mistakes.

Downtown parking

PLEASE enforce the two-hour parking limit on Spanish and Main streets. The people who own and work in the stores park there from morning to night. Let someone who wants to shop downtown have a place to park.

Saturation coverage

SIX times that many people show up for a monster truck competition at the Show Me Center and it doesn't get that kind of attention. The super-saturation coverage of Cape Girardeau's tea party protest by the Southeast Missourian makes one wonder when the Missourian became a subsidiary of Fox News and Rupert Murdoch.

School treatment

I am a Jackson public school alumnus and have always been proud of that. But after hearing what goes on at the elementary schools I am considering moving for my preschool-age son's sake. Children are not allowed to talk at lunch. Recess consists of walking a line. PE is less than an hour twice a week. How can we let our educators be so lazy? Let them be children. Let them get a physical education, or give them less homework so they can get their exercise at home. These are children, not convicts.

Street ditches

I think Jackson should take a good look at South Bellevue Street and do something about the ditches that are washing away our yards. The street should be paved. No one seems to care.

Equal treatment

I agree that it should not matter if a marriage between same-sex couples were legalized. I believe that it doesn't affect a marriage between a man or a woman and doesn't affect the state. Same-sex marriages should be legalized and treated the same as a union between a man and a woman. The times are different and if people are so confined to the past they will never grow with the future of our upcoming children. I have four children and one day could be faced with a gay or lesbian child, but that will never change the way I feel about my children. I will love and support them no matter what sexuality they are. I hope that our country see that this is and will be an ongoing thing. Let there be peace and love all around and not just with people they believe should have love and peace. We all deserve equality.

Your taxes at work

SO many ironies abounded at Cape Girardeau's anti-tax tea party that space prohibits listing them all. Two quickies were that the rally was held at the beautiful, well-maintained but taxpayer-funded Capaha Park. The other was the rather large presence of a taxpayer-financed police force.

How great it is

I wish Americans would realize how great they have it. We complain way too much about everything and everyone. God forbid something doesn't go the way we think it ought to. Just be thankful for what you have, and be thankful you weren't born in a Third World country where your luxuries wouldn't exist.

Economic mess

I read Michael Jensen's column "Paying, and then some." I agree about people paying no tax getting a good chunk of money back as a refund. This is called the earned income tax credit. But Jensen is wrong to imply this started with President Obama. It has been part of the tax laws for years. Our economy is in a mess, but Obama did not start it. It was terrible long before he came to Washington. Actually, wealthy Republicans are the ones who got us in this mess. Lay off Obama. He's not perfect, but neither are the Republicans.

More money

PHILIPS Brown, my old economics professor at Southeast Missouri State University, has written a column in which he claims that the solution to our economic problems is to print more money. He must have missed Ben Bernanke's interview on "60 Minutes" in mid-March in which Bernanke said the Fed has pushed more than $1 trillion into the economy. I'm afraid that's not the simplest solution.

Taxes are the focus

I certainly agree with some of the opinions expressed at the tea party held at Capaha Park, but I certainly hope this doesn't become political. The event was well-presented, but please focus on tax issues.

Not political

I'M calling about the tea party held in Cape Girardeau. I attended the event to hear some of the comments by some of the speakers that were there, which I thought were good on some of the issues. But when David Limbaugh started his political tirade, I left. I do not want to hear anything about conservatives or liberals. I was there to hear about fair taxation.


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Patrol complaint: ? Deja vu?

Downtown parking: This is starting to sound real familiar.

Saturation coverage: Hmmm...Sing Dixie?

School treatment: Uh-ho, it's starting.

Street ditches: Washing the dishes?

Equal treatment: Hmm...very confusing.

Your taxes at work: Good Points!

How great it is: But I'm complaining because I don't want all these changes. Doesn't that account for something? I want less of new, more of old. Make sense?

Economic mess: People actually read these columns? Am I missing something?

More money: Well...it would be if they printed off $1 Million for each American citizen. START THE PRESSES!

Taxes are the focus: *sigh*

Not political: Beware the wolves in sheeples clothing.

-- Posted by Megalomania on Tue, Apr 21, 2009, at 12:38 AM

Just_Me,

Per your remark yesterday regarding the LP's position on national defense.

I wouldn't call adventures in empire building in over 140 countries around the world national "defense".

The LP's position is to call this experiment in imperialism what it is - a failure - and return our troops back home where we can really have a national defense.

The money we would save would fund SS and Medicare into the next century! And we would have the best military in the world, serving as one unit.

Your position is what I refer to as the warfare state, or to protest out of control spending on the domestic front (welfare state), but to support that same out of control spending overseas on futile military expansionism.

This government's continued imperialistic foreign policy is just as much to blame for our loss of liberty as TARP, bailouts, stimulus, etc.

I would venture to say even more so because it involves the loss of life, not just fake fiat currency.

-- Posted by Lumpy on Tue, Apr 21, 2009, at 5:21 AM

I have heard other people say when David Limbaugh took to the podium at the tea party and started ranting and raving they left the event as well. The event was I thought suppose to be focused on taxes, majority of Limbaugh soap box apparance was about you guessed it pro life and gay marriage same old republican bs never changes.

-- Posted by swampeastmissouri on Tue, Apr 21, 2009, at 5:36 AM

Guess the first 2 complaints were so important they had to be repeated.

School treatment

It isn't just Jackson it is every school. They now have recess at lunch and in the afternoon and 53 minutes of pe twice a week. If a child doesn't complete an assignment then they take their recess away from them and make them do it then BUT when the kids start getting edgy because they are cooped up in a classroom more the schools solution is to say they are ADHD or have other behavoir problems. What did you expect when the government started running the schools.

Street ditches

Just come to Chaffee and see how lousy our streets are and then you will be thankful for what you do have

Equal treatment

I know I will get blasted but I am not against same sex marriage. No I do not think it is ight mainly because of religious views but it is their choice not mine

How great it is

I agree we do have it a lot better than some. Things could always be worse no matter what the situation.

Economic mess

Earned income credit is a joke. Make 10 k a year have a couple of kids and get a few k back at the end of the year. Work your arse off to have a good life, have a couple of kids and pay the irs every year doesn't exactly seem fair.

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Tue, Apr 21, 2009, at 8:03 AM

Morning everyone! seriously, is it just me or do the posts keep changing, one time I read top to bottom, then it changes from bottom to top...i really wish 'someone' would make up their mind...I'm getting dizzy! :)~

Saturation coverage...u r comparing a monster truck show to a tea party.....seriously? bonehead.

School treatment...is this true? u could always stop by the school someday and request a tour...I often 'pop' by my daughters' school just to 'check things out'! :)

Street ditches...Jackson needs to take a good look at several drainage ditches...b careful what u wish for the last time we wanted a city street paved, we had to pay for some of it...btw, u can send a complaint/request via their website: http://www.jacksonmo.org/

Equal treatment...great post, I don't think that's ever gonna happen but here's to wishful thinking! :)

Your taxes at work...ohhhh, they choose a public park for the setting, that's weak! Police presence..did u not see the memo...lol. Perhaps they were interested in the 'cause' as well.

How great it is...true that, AMEN! :)~

Economic mess...EIC, I have never, not even onced qualified for this tax credit....my point being the cutoff is pretty low..let them have it, geez....besides, I am so sick of hearing this garbage..crybabies..everyone pays taxes, every dime me make or spend, we pay taxes.

??? Would someone care to explain to me who 'these' people are that don't pay taxes but yet receive refunds, how is this possible??

Anyone else sick of discussing the 'tea party'?

-- Posted by Turnip on Tue, Apr 21, 2009, at 8:55 AM

Turnip

A single parent making 10 k a year has no tax liability. They hold taxes out of their check yes but at the end of the year they will get every cent of that back PLUS the EIC payment. Yes they pay taxes at stores but no federal or state taxes on income.

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Tue, Apr 21, 2009, at 9:00 AM

What I would like to know is why you can not get the Child tax credit on a child after they turn 17. Most kids are still in high school at that age and that break would help several parents when filing taxes.

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Tue, Apr 21, 2009, at 9:04 AM

Yes! Finally fixed. It's much easier to read the forum when the "NEW" posts are at the top, instead of having to waste finger energy scrolling to the bottom every time.

-- Posted by Megalomania on Tue, Apr 21, 2009, at 9:15 AM

Ohhhh Poo! They've broken it again!

-- Posted by Megalomania on Tue, Apr 21, 2009, at 9:16 AM

Really, what idiot wants to make us scroll all the way to the bottom of the screen every time?

-- Posted by Megalomania on Tue, Apr 21, 2009, at 9:16 AM

-- Posted by ..Rick on Tue, Apr 21, 2009, at 9:17 AM

So, how is everyone this mornintg? Got Monday behind us, busy work week ahead...

Saturation coverage: Monster truck is a sporting event - many do not care an iota about and usualy gets its mention in the news. People FINALLY getting it through their thick skulls that the guv'mint is getting too big and speaking out publicly - nationally - in large numbers - now THAT is news!

Patrol complaint - I'm not quite perfect either (just doggone close!) - Are you? And yes, you should have reported the incident.

How great it is - Been to any of those third world countries? I have - several in fact. Most have one thing in common: run-away bureaucracy that accomplishes little with the resources they have available and relies on expensive social programs and promises of more to keep people voting for the same, lame politicians year after year. Sound familiar?

Economic mess - Right! Those nasty wascally wich Wepublicans! How about those nasty rich Democrats? And Libertarians? And Brand X's? Or do you REALLY believe ONLY Republicans are rich? As for who is responsible - you can point fingers all day and not complete the list. But, until you get over your hate of those who have more wealth than you do - your comments are tainted by hatred and jealousy and therefore, irrelevant.

Same sex marriage - OK, I'm a Catholic and a conservative and I make no apologies about that. However, my view on same sex marriage is as follows: I could not give a rat's arse about which way you swing and if you want to have a legal union - why not? Here's my caveat: any law granting the privilege - it's not a "right" - MUST include language that would prevent churches whose doctrine prohibits such unions from being hauled into court to force them do perform and bless the union. And it MUST be up to the people of the Several States - Uncle Sam needs to stay out of it, it's not a Federal matter.

Your Taxes at work - Yeah, two of the VERY FEW functions your taxes are SUPPOSED to provide - idiot, if you can't come up with something better than that, do not waste our time!

On the government printing money: Let's see, $1.5 trillion in deficit spending this year, $4 trillion in proposed spending, GAO says that means around $10 trillion in debt. That means $5000, $13000, and $33000 (respectively) per each American, based upon a population of 300 million. Of course, if Uncle Sugar prints up a bunch of cash with nothing to back it up - then we have inflation and further devaluation of the dollar - which means our creditors (mainly China) will want more and we will be taking suitcases of money to the grocery store. One thing I figured out in macro-economics in college: the Keynesian approach to solving economic problems sucks! Government is too inefficient due to bureacracy and, historically, governmemnt intereference generally lengthens economic down turns.

-- Posted by LittleMac on Tue, Apr 21, 2009, at 10:06 AM

Trooper Complaint:

You actually have no idea if any disciplinary action was or will be taken against this Trooper as information contained in personnel files including disciplinary actions cannot be released. This is not unique to the MSHP, but encompasses all state Departments as well as most private businesses.

Absent exigent circumstance, which we will never know, this Officer's action were inappropriate and were correctly reported. Bone headed behavior on the part of one reflects poorly on all.

-- Posted by RA on Tue, Apr 21, 2009, at 10:21 AM

Do you believe that extraterrestrial life has visited Earth?

-- Posted by ..Rick on Tue, Apr 21, 2009, at 10:32 AM

Can someone please explain how gay marriage and homosexual marriage are equal?!?! If you take 100 male married couples and put them on one island, you put 100 female married couples on another island, and you put 100 heterosexual married couples on another island. No interaction. What would happen? Seems like there's a difference to me.

-- Posted by bebo on Tue, Apr 21, 2009, at 10:36 AM

Do you believe that extraterrestrial life has visited Earth?

-- Posted by *Rick* on Tue, Apr 21, 2009, at 10:32 AM

Yes, in the form of Michael Jackson.

-- Posted by Megalomania on Tue, Apr 21, 2009, at 10:50 AM

Bebo...

your point?

-- Posted by Theorist on Tue, Apr 21, 2009, at 11:03 AM

Michael Jackson....only in America can a poor black boy grow up to be a rich white woman...

-- Posted by ..Rick on Tue, Apr 21, 2009, at 11:39 AM

Rick, ET life: I have no idea, do you?

Semoangel, I take it you don't agree with that, earning less than $10,000 and receiving EIC???

re: if a child goes directly to college after HS I would think you can? I thought u could claim any dependents (ex. elderly parents) as long as they don't file and claim themselves??? but I really don't know.

-- Posted by Turnip on Tue, Apr 21, 2009, at 11:40 AM

Special Meeting Marble Hill Board of Aldermen Special Meeting Tomorrow:

http://aldermanlacy.wordpress.com/2009/0...

-- Posted by mobushwhacker on Tue, Apr 21, 2009, at 11:42 AM

rick, u crack me up! :)

-- Posted by Turnip on Tue, Apr 21, 2009, at 11:44 AM

Turnip

It isn't as much have a problem with the EIC I just feel that if you work and pay in a bunch of taxes then you should also get part of it back. Last year we paid in almost 19k to federal and had to pay into state and got less than $100 back on federal doesn't seem right when someone can pay nothing and get back a few thousand year after year.

Yes we can claim our daughter as a dependant next year but we loose the $1250 tax break for the child tax credit.

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Tue, Apr 21, 2009, at 11:53 AM

Cycle

Not sure about it being a step to communism but it is definitly the redistibuting the wealth and I need my money just as bad as they need it.

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Tue, Apr 21, 2009, at 12:00 PM

I think it is hard to complain about someone taking a tax credit given by the government for a child they are raising.....when I take that same tax credit for my own.

Regardless of the income of both families...we are getting the same tax credit. Why would I complain about a credit? Is this jealousy?

-- Posted by Theorist on Tue, Apr 21, 2009, at 12:24 PM

Theorist

No it is not the same credit.

EIC guarantees you are going to get a refund the Child Tax Credit just gives you a break and instead of paying in 1k you pay in $900.

Yes everyone deserves a break for kids tey are raising but don't punish the ones who make a decent living and that is what the EIC does.

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Tue, Apr 21, 2009, at 12:39 PM

I am with James on this one; don't know many people who will turn down money when it is offered; it just shouldn't be offered.

-- Posted by RA on Tue, Apr 21, 2009, at 12:47 PM

TripleS

That is the point it should all just be the Child Tax Credit, give the break for having the kids fine at least then the credit would be the same across the board.

I wouldn't have a problem with EIC if the ones getting it were trying to better their education to get a better paying job. Let it be there for those trying to help themselves and not the ones who dont want to do any better but want a handout

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Tue, Apr 21, 2009, at 12:52 PM

Semoangel...

I am not picking on you, and don't mean to single you out...but, you and I are fortunate that we have good jobs, work ethics and the ability to earn our ways. I think there are many out there who would love and welcome the same opportunity.

Why not feel good about yourself and "doing your part"!

I think the problem is not in the giver (concept) but those who "cheat" the system in other ways. I think this is where everyone feels as if they are somehow being penalized for hard work.

-- Posted by Theorist on Tue, Apr 21, 2009, at 1:09 PM

Semoangel70,

I guess I have just seen too many people use their EIC to buy new TV sets, motorcycles or other non essential items and then wind up right back where they started.

I have no problem with welfare for those who truly need it and use it properly, but as in most things the devil is in the detail and I am certainly not qualified to make those determinations.

-- Posted by RA on Tue, Apr 21, 2009, at 1:15 PM

Many successful people create their own "opportunities" rather than have it given to them.

-- Posted by RA on Tue, Apr 21, 2009, at 1:18 PM

James, unfortunately there are far too many people who actually don't pay it but reap the benefits for this to ever happen.

-- Posted by RA on Tue, Apr 21, 2009, at 1:22 PM

Theorist

I do not have a problem with anyone getting help if they need it but TRY to improve life not just expect the next person to take care of you. I do not care if it is welfare, AFDC,foodstamps whatver if someone is trying they deserve help.

What aggravates me is when tax dollars I pay is used to fund a public facility and yet we can not utilize it. Example when my son wa 4 we decided to give head start a shot wrong w made to much money and he had to be placed on a waiting list. I can pay taxes to support it but my kids couldnt go there instead we had to pay $125 a week for a private pre school. My daughter wants to go to school at the college of the ozarks guess what we make to much for her to qualify, because she is an honor student and has the act score she will be placed on a waiting list. Something is wrong with that picture.

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Tue, Apr 21, 2009, at 1:24 PM

Cycle

lol wish we did I could use a few extra thousand right now

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Tue, Apr 21, 2009, at 1:43 PM

"Michael Jackson....only in America can a poor black boy grow up to be a rich white woman..."

-- Posted by *Rick* on Tue, Apr 21, 2009, at 11:39 AM

There you go, solid proof he is alien. (A-sexual) like a worm. Let's cut his head off and see if it grows back! Off with his head!

-- Posted by Megalomania on Tue, Apr 21, 2009, at 1:43 PM

semo, I played the lottery today. I was advised it was a "sure" win. *rolling eyes* That'd be a quick way to pick-up a couple thousand.

Well, I'm off to mow. Cheerio!

-- Posted by Megalomania on Tue, Apr 21, 2009, at 1:45 PM

Meglo

Never play the lottery just don't have the luck for it besides they tax the big winnings on that too.

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Tue, Apr 21, 2009, at 1:51 PM

Cyclist...you posted "I am not fortunate to have a good job and work ethic. I worked to EARN it."

Are you familiar with Karma? I am glad I don't have yours!!!!

You are fortunate that God gave you the physical ability and mental stability to work. Some people do not have those same building blocks. You probably also had loving, hard working parents to function as role models....others have not.

Yes my son, you are fortunate....but as they say...what goes around comes around....Watch out!

-- Posted by Theorist on Tue, Apr 21, 2009, at 2:04 PM

James,

You are right, compassion cannot be forced. However....one might remind one ever so often.

Sometimes we forget what gifts we possess!

-- Posted by Theorist on Tue, Apr 21, 2009, at 2:42 PM

I don't qualify for the EIC (thank God)

-- Posted by socialism_kills_cyclists on Tue, Apr 21, 2009, at 1:41 PM

geez...I don't even know where to begin...this is what u give thanks for..not ur health, ur family..but ur taxes...

-- Posted by Turnip on Tue, Apr 21, 2009, at 2:55 PM

Cycle, YES...i don't wish to participate in 'welfare' bashing today......u just never cease to amaze me....:)~

-- Posted by Turnip on Tue, Apr 21, 2009, at 3:10 PM

Well I see Cyclist has nothing better to do than argue and post comments all day. Hey Cyclist!, how about a game of dominoes? You seem to have plenty of time on your hands!

-- Posted by GREYWOLF on Tue, Apr 21, 2009, at 3:56 PM

At least he's not out pi$$ing on me or my friends.

-- Posted by cubbytodd on Tue, Apr 21, 2009, at 4:05 PM

James

Compassion yes but sometimes that compassion is misguided. As bad a the systems right here in the U.S. need improved how many millions have been sent over to 3rd world countries. Compassion can come back to bite you in the rear

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Tue, Apr 21, 2009, at 4:14 PM

William Faulkner once said:

"I believe that man will not merely endure, he will prevail. He is immortal, not because he alone among creatures has an inexhaustible voice, but because he has a soul, a spirit capable of compassion and sacrifice and endurance."

Socialism_kills_cyclists once said:

"If you and the other left wing liberal bleeding heart cry babies have such "compassion" for those on welfare, why don't you write a check for 50% of your income and send it to the state DFS? Libs love talking compassion when it comes to spending other people's money."

-- Posted by DADES on Tue, Apr 21, 2009, at 4:20 PM

Good Lord, Theorist! Here's what you say: you and I are FORTUNATE that we have good jobs, work ethics and the ability to earn our ways. I think there are many out there who would love and welcome the same opportunity.

YOU may consider it FORTUNATE to have good job, etc. Many others could have the same, but it's easier not to, isn't it? Betting that people like semoangel worked pretty darned hard to be that FORTUNATE! Ah, the reward for not working toward the ability to earn our ways can sometimes be a reward in itself?

-- Posted by CogitoErgoSum on Tue, Apr 21, 2009, at 4:23 PM

Cogito

I am fortunate because my parents taught us that if you wanted something you worked for it, now I am fortunate because I have a great husband who works 60+ hours a week at the family business and provides well for me and the kids. I have been very fortunate in life but even with good fortune hard work is what matters most and I think Theorist knows that too.

To me if you want something badly enough then you work and get it not expect others to make it happen. Not really defending Cycle but he is the same way work for what you get.

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Tue, Apr 21, 2009, at 4:27 PM

Cyclist-

It seems like you hate just about everything about the U.S.A. You hate the poor. You hate bleeding heart cry baby liberals. You hate paying taxes. You hate just about everything the current President stands for. You've never come out and said, "I hate the government" but from previous posts it's easy to see you hate just about everything about the government. But you love your guns! Just saying I hope you don't wind up on some clock tower some day.

-- Posted by DADES on Tue, Apr 21, 2009, at 4:32 PM

Who appointed Ronald Reagan the patron saint of fiscal conservatives?

Reagan should be the patron saint of the warfare state.

There was a time when folks on the right actually opposed foreign intervention.

-- Posted by Lumpy on Tue, Apr 21, 2009, at 4:40 PM

Cycle, I pay taxes just like you, if that isn't adequate enough for u why don't u write your local legislators or whisper that in their ears at ur next 'luncheon'...sounds alot like 'social envy' to me, ur just on the wrong side of it...lol!

-- Posted by Turnip on Tue, Apr 21, 2009, at 4:51 PM

I apologize Cyclist. I do not recall you ever saying "I HATE ...X..." but you have certainly expressed some strong negative feelings. Don't get me wrong, while I don't always see things quite the way that you do, I do admire your conviction. I just think sometimes you might aught to consider switching to decaf.

-- Posted by DADES on Tue, Apr 21, 2009, at 4:52 PM

The earned income credit was originally enacted in 1975, expanded significantly by the Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act of 1993, and now covers childless workers. In 1998, some families qualified for an earned income tax credit of up to $3,756.

The earned income tax credit has also been implicated in some perverse disincentives for work and marriage.

~~~~~~~ may discourage work by an even greater number of relatively low-income workers falling in the applicable phaseout ranges

~~~~~~~ consider a two-earner family with two children. If each earns $10,000 and they file a joint return, the family will get an $1,811 refund. If they divorce and each takes a child and files as head of household, they may each claim a $2,271 earned income tax credit. This is a $2,731 a year incentive for divorce

http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/publicati...

There do not appear to be any follow-ups or statistics on whether this extra income has helped (but probably did not) EIC recipients better their own lives. Since this wasn't the point of EIC, though, who cares? Now we have EIC recipients whose children are also EIC recipients, and the latter are helping their parents by "loaning" them their children at tax time so that the parents can continue receiving the credit. Sweet, huh?

-- Posted by CogitoErgoSum on Tue, Apr 21, 2009, at 4:54 PM

I think we can all agree noone cares for those who 'rape' the system. I agree with Cycle and SemoAngel to an extent, people should help themselves. People should make better choices in their lives and b responsible BUT i'm glad there is a 'system' that helps those in need when they need it.

cycle, luckily, or Thank God, I guess u would say. u don't know anyone that is less fortunate than you, that has ever made a wrong choice and needed a hand up...I suggest u pray u never do. btw, why do u keep calling me a liberal???

-- Posted by Turnip on Tue, Apr 21, 2009, at 5:00 PM

Cycle, as stated b4, I don't take offense. My rose colored glasses deflect all that shat...:)~

perhaps instead of 'griping' about what's wrong, u could spend that time/energy changing it...just a thought. I don't believe it is the 'system' that is wrong, I think it's our society...which brings me back to the point: who raised these 'worthless arses'; what parent said it was OK to have multiple children and not provide for them nevermind create a better life for them???

see, I came back and now I'm bashing....u r a terrible influence! :)~

-- Posted by Turnip on Tue, Apr 21, 2009, at 5:19 PM

Well, I just got back from a brisk, but brief ride through the city on the moped. Wow! A renewed since of respect for the "small" bike rider. Never felt this vunerable when riding the heritage soft tail.

-- Posted by Megalomania on Tue, Apr 21, 2009, at 5:26 PM

I must agree with the comment about the schools. My 10 yr old daughter was suspended from the bus for talking to her friend because her principal said that she is not aloud to speak to this other child. Last time I checked I thought we were the parents and we decided who are children can and cannot be friends with not only that but since that time the principal will not let the girls talk to each other at breakfast,lunch,recess and the bus. When I asked the principal about this she was so rude as to tell me that she controls the school and there is nothing we can do about it. These kids are treated like criminals in a prison camp the only thing the schools care about anymore are the precious map test scores it is time for a change.

-- Posted by Rayne2010 on Tue, Apr 21, 2009, at 5:46 PM

Meg, u best b careful on that thing.....

-- Posted by Turnip on Tue, Apr 21, 2009, at 6:55 PM

Operation Northwoods, I hate to burst ur bubble, but we've already seen the Obama video weeks ago...sorry!

-- Posted by Turnip on Tue, Apr 21, 2009, at 7:03 PM

...just more gloom and doom stuff...

-- Posted by ..Rick on Tue, Apr 21, 2009, at 8:05 PM

Do agree with Ron Paul that it's OK for state officials to talk about seceding from the union?

-- Posted by ..Rick on Tue, Apr 21, 2009, at 8:08 PM

Operation Northwoods, are you refering to 9/11?

-- Posted by Megalomania on Tue, Apr 21, 2009, at 8:24 PM

Operation Northwoods, valid point...carry on...:)

-- Posted by Turnip on Tue, Apr 21, 2009, at 8:42 PM

Rick, dear....r u ignoring me? I asked u if u believe in ET life??? u brought it up...

-- Posted by Turnip on Tue, Apr 21, 2009, at 8:46 PM

Wow...that reminds me, wonder what happen to Robert Goodbody? He was a kind gent, a lil' quirky but nice! :)

-- Posted by Turnip on Tue, Apr 21, 2009, at 8:59 PM

Dades...

Cyclist is a pessimist! Cogito...read the post!

-- Posted by Theorist on Tue, Apr 21, 2009, at 9:12 PM

Operation Northwoods,

I know exactly what it was, I was just trying to make a politically charged sarcastic jab and innuendo.

-- Posted by Megalomania on Tue, Apr 21, 2009, at 9:15 PM

Turnip....yep , we ain't alone , there's aliens among us ...shoot , look at Megalomania !

-- Posted by ..Rick on Wed, Apr 22, 2009, at 1:49 AM


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