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Speak Out 4/5/09

Sunday, April 5, 2009

Nuisance cameras

KEEPING an eye on your own home for the purposes of your family's safety is one thing, but when video surveillance branches outside the perimeters of your own property into another's property, you're being a nuisance.

Judging Obama

REGARDING the suggestion that we give President Obama an opportunity to correct things before we start judging him: I didn't vote for him. I thought from the beginning that he wasn't going to be able to do anything for our country. I think two months is long enough for him, but thanks to so many other people we'll all have our heads tucked between our legs for the next four years.

Thanks for letter

THERE are honest people out there. I would like to say thank you to whoever received a letter in the mail that was addressed to me. The address was correct, but the letter somehow ended up in someone else's box. They marked the envelope and returned it to the postal service. It was then delivered to me. This particular letter had an extremely important and valuable document in it, and I am grateful it found its way to me.

Expressing outrage

DAVID Limbaugh seems palpably perplexed at the apparent lack of outrage over the increasing national deficit and debt. I think the answer is that we got used to it during the Bush administration because Limbaugh and his like-minded fanatics failed to express outrage about it.

Bullying advice

BEING a resident of Scott City for the past 39 years, the last 25 as a parent, I'd like to comment on the bullying at school from my perspective and personal experience. It is difficult to be unbiased toward your own children whenever they are involved in an incident such as bullying. You will love and protect them at all costs. However, I urge all involved to take a step back and consider that their children may very well be the source of the bullying. I'm a firm believer that parents should avoid getting involved in conflicts between their children and their children's friends, unless, of course, it escalates to bodily harm or property destruction. Most of the time, these things settle themselves between the kids. School administrators have definitely seen a lot more of these situations on day-to-day basis than parents have. Please don't undermine or criticize their handling of the situation. If our children are raised in the home to be caring and compassionate, all the pettiness goes away after graduation, and time heals many wounds for the kids.

Pet donations

I moved here from St. Louis. I was talking to my neighbors about unwanted pets and about how Safe Harbor takes them in. They said they take their unwanted pets out in the country and let them out near a farmhouse because farmers can always use a good cat to chase mice or dogs to herd farm animals. This is interesting. I didn't realize that.

Smelly party

I will not be attending the tea party protest. Although they say it's not affiliated with any political party, it sure smells Republican. Since this administration has only been in power two months, I have better things to do with my time.


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Nuisance cameras: LOL! Now who is doing that??

Judging Obama: Maybe you should start kissing while you're there! LOL! Prat!

Thanks for letter: It's really become pathetic when we have to constantly cheer the good things that people should be doing automatically. I guess we should start having "Good Deed" parties everytime someone says hello, or tips their hat.

Expressing outrage: Yes, it is a constant whinging since the shoe is now on the other foot. Good Grief! It's no wonder I've had a migraine since Obama's inauguration.

Bullying advice: My advice, bring back corporal punishment in the schools, teachers with horn-rimmed glasses, and parents who actually dicipline their children. "Out with the time outs!"

Pet donations: LOL! You need to get out more!

Smelly party: Neither am I. First of all, the concept of "Tea Party" doesn't really make any sense. Second...what happened to patience and virtue? Less than 100 days, and folks are throwing a hissy? What about the past 8-years of totalitarian dictatorship? If that wasn't trying, nothing was. This is just plain republican hyper-bole and grandstanding. How about a "whine" and cheese party instead??

-- Posted by Megalomania on Sun, Apr 5, 2009, at 12:46 AM

This guy don't help you gun peoples cause. He's going to ruin it for all of you.

PITTSBURGH -- A gunman wearing a bulletproof vest and "lying in wait" opened fire on officers responding to a domestic disturbance call Saturday, killing three of them and turning a quiet Pittsburgh street into a battlefield, police said.

Police chief Nate Harper said the motive for the shooting isn't clear, but friends said the gunman recently had been upset about losing his job and feared the Obama administration was poised to ban guns.

Richard Poplawski, 23, met officers at the doorway and shot two of them in the head immediately, Harper said. An officer who tried to help the two also was killed.

-- Posted by grandma73 on Sun, Apr 5, 2009, at 7:55 AM

JUMY,

You truly are out to whinge for the next four years aren't you? Good grief, give it a rest. Between you and Parsnips, the forum's been transformed into a graveyard for sound bytes.

Btw...*peeking around over shoulders* ditch her, she's making you look bad. Her banter with you reminds me of George Burns and Gracie Allen. She's become your little lap dog of affirmation.

Anyhow, just so you notice, I've become a little more A-Political. I got my change...woopity doo. In four more years some other prat will be promising the moon, sun, and stars and it will be an endless cycle until "TRUE" change is made by the people. Tea Party??? Pfft! What a waste! Make a real statement and dump cigarettes or stop smoking them. It's about "real" sacrifice, not historical "metaphors".

I'm not out to debate political debauchery with you today. The market's up, Ford stock is up and you still have your guns. So unless you're a smoker, a corporate CEO, or a banker...I highly doubt if Obama's actions are having a real huge impact on your life.

Also, just for some clarification on your part, let me get this straight. Like "Socialism Kills" you also ride a bike, and are also in the guard? Are you two twins? I don't know about you, but I found it extremely knackering to flip back and forth from one SOF (speakout forum) personality to another.

-- Posted by Megalomania on Sun, Apr 5, 2009, at 9:00 AM

"btw, Meg, not to "tweek" the "freak" but u r as stable as Gary Busey...u r all over the place...

as I've said b4: Don't hate the player, hate the game....! :)~"

-- Posted by Turnip on Sat, Apr 4, 2009, at 6:07 PM

Parsnips,

This is exactly what I'm talking about. Your posts are incoherent, make no sense, and leave one thinking..."Huh? What did she just say?"

-- Posted by Megalomania on Sun, Apr 5, 2009, at 9:11 AM

Judging Obama: I be the judge. Obama like Bush, progressives like conservatives believe that government can solve all problems. Government is force not reason, so set reason to the side and submit force is their answer. Neither can understand that government (force) cannot fix the economy. That at best, it can only make things worse. The economy is self healing, introducing new ailments is not the answer.

Expressing outrage: Agree

Bullying advice: Being a bully and being a victim builds character. That is why we have wars isn't it?

Pet donations: I live on a farm, keep your cats.

-- Posted by BCStoned on Sun, Apr 5, 2009, at 9:38 AM

Morning all

Judging Obama

Sorry don't really care for the man but I do not think 2 months is enough time for anyone to make a major improvement in the economy. We didn't get into this mess in 2 months and we won't get out of it in 2. Just because the market may be up a few points and ome stock is on the way up it means nothing, how many times in the last 6 months has it went up one day only to decline again the next week.

Bullying

The school needs to take responsibility for what happens on school grounds, the parents need to take responsibility for the other hours of the day. Parents need to get a backbone and stand up to heir kids instead of letting them call the shots and the schools need to see ALL students are equal not just the rich kid or the athletes. Maybe if the parents and the school worked together to find a solution instead of demanding this or that it might change.

Pet donations

Sorry my in laws live in the country and have a farm and after about 8 cats were dropped off they really don't need anymore. If you don't want to be responsible for a pet then take it to a shelter instead of assuming someone else will want it.

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Sun, Apr 5, 2009, at 9:49 AM

Meg, This is getting a lil' old; u bore me! Although I do like the lil' nickname u gave me!

If u don't like me, stop responding to/at me...geez...it's not rocket science! There is no need to "attack" other people, I'm here! BTW, I think u know exactly what I mean! :)~

-- Posted by Turnip on Sun, Apr 5, 2009, at 9:49 AM

Where did my manners go...sorry! Good morning, everyone! :)

Nuisance cameras...u think that's a problem, u ain't seen nothing yet....

Thanks for letter....your welcome! :)

Pet donations....I've also read SO that said "STOP dropping ur pets off in the country"!

Smelly party....it sure smells Republican. hmmmm...I didn't get that! :)~

-- Posted by Turnip on Sun, Apr 5, 2009, at 9:55 AM

I believe Obama should be given at least a year to see what shakes out , o'course its your right to b!tch so go ahead.

Pet donations;I live down on the farm , most of us have enough animals , cats will usually be killed by the dogs or coyotes (I've lost 2 this way)dogs usually are shot outright (I've not had to shoot any)we can't afford to support all those animals any more than the city folks , so do the right thing & get your pets spayed & nuetered sp? & quit taking them out to the country.

Oh 1 more thing keep smoking those cigarettes we need that tax revenue.....

-- Posted by rockman54 on Sun, Apr 5, 2009, at 10:00 AM

Cyclists & Just Me

Will the plan to send all the troops to Afghanistan affect you guys, I know several men and women I have talked to feel their units will now be deployed to there.

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Sun, Apr 5, 2009, at 10:00 AM

Cycle, do u get "don't tweek the freak"? I'm having flashbacks of what happened the last time.....perhaps we should lay off! lol :)~

I wouldn't worry about Meg; JUMEMY defended me yesterday & it set her off, she's grasping! :)~

SEMOANGEL...it's been awhile, how have u been? Hope all is well! :)

-- Posted by Turnip on Sun, Apr 5, 2009, at 10:02 AM

Turnip

LOL Didn't look to "safe" the last few days! No ball season has started so living at the ball park again at least it feels like it.

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Sun, Apr 5, 2009, at 10:04 AM

"I'm doing my part to show you that our Country is heading towards the point of no return ... an unpayable debt, unsustainable spending, a non-representative gov't, and the nationalization of the private sector ... and so we can try and do something about it."

JUMY, as I have stated several times, this country was head toward the point of no return on September 11, 2001. (far beyond the magnitude of Obama) Wrong decisions were made in 2002 by our then POTUS. We have whimpered and gimped along with this fight on terrorism, and used fear-mongering to scare our own citizens, not our enemy.

I'll reiterate this one last time for the record. Blast with the consequences, we should have LEVELED Iraq the first day...not played tittle winks for the past umpteen years. THAT is the fear-mongering our government should have incorporated. Additionally, we should have done the same to Afganistan, Pakistan, the Koreans, and China.

As for the market, I honestly blame oil speculators, banks, and the entire way we do "credit" and interest rates in this country for creating this financial quagmire that we now face. In it's time, a hand shake and a man's word were all that was needed to secure a loan. We have lost our virtue, our innocence, and our moral sense of right and wrong.

Personally, I feel it was the abcess created by political correctness and greed that became the bane of all things, blinding us from the things that are truly important.

So no my friend, 2006 was NOT the point of where things began to slide in this country. Who's really to blame? You, Me, Parsnips, all of us (the citizens). We became complacent, indulgent, and greedy. Until we all start encompassing the big picture, take a real stand, fight a real fight, the cycle will continue.

Bortz, Limbaugh, MSNBC, Politicians, they're ALL out for the quick buck, play on the emotions of the citizenry, and to ween themselves on the teet of the taxpayers. You know this! Perhaps one day we'll all understand this, and fight FOR one another instead of against. Anyway, I'm out for the day. Off with their heads, and long live the Queen!

-- Posted by Megalomania on Sun, Apr 5, 2009, at 10:08 AM

Just

Not sure what unit you are with but I know y brother is in Dexter and their rumor mill has it they will go within the next 12 months. You are right it will take a lot of the reservist and Guardsmen with as many troops as they are wanting to send.

Megal

Sorry but do you really think we should have innitiated an attack on China or even Korea. These small wars are bad enough do we really need world war 3

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Sun, Apr 5, 2009, at 10:14 AM

Good morning Parsnips! Glad to see you're up before 10:00 A.M. LOL! Boring??? Oh, that's original. Nothing like an early morning banter to get the blood flowing back into one's cheeks.

Keep the eggs on your plate, and not in your face. ;o)

-- Posted by Megalomania on Sun, Apr 5, 2009, at 10:16 AM

semoangel70,

LOL! I'm really trying to pull myself away and get something productive done this morning.

China, Korea, WWIII. Did we want WWI or WWII? You see how things are, where they are going. It's really unavoidable isn't it? Good grief, 9/11 was cause enough for WWIII alone. Unfortunately, I think we're just fanning fires, and producing band aides to prevent the inevitable mass bloodshed caused by World War. Do I want it? No. Carl Von Clausewitz said, "War is the continuation of politics by other means."

Look at the forum, 80% are saying that government, and politics have failed. History is bound to repeat itself, and I'd say that the WW cycle has just about hit the midnight hour.

-- Posted by Megalomania on Sun, Apr 5, 2009, at 10:25 AM

Re: Nuisance cameras

Ahhhh, I see perhaps I'm not the only one pursuing the avenue of surveillance. Figured if there was a break-in, the chances are better than average that I would not be here to greet the perps personally, and that they are likely to be long gone by the time the law arrives - so, further figured the next best effort is to document all I can while they are on the premises.

Looked at the home services available - but wasn't real keen on having to key in and key out on entering and exitting - could see myself getting lax with this, rendering such a system useless. Plus the monthly fees added up. Also wasn't big on the audible alarm - figured the false alarms would likely equal or outnumber the real alarms, desensitizing and/or ticking off the neighbors. But it was mainly the monthly fees plus the initial installation costs that steered me away. The do-it-yourself system purchased should have a payback of less than 3 years as compared against the home service thing.

Haven't quite got the entire system up and running yet - but have already given a lot of thought to the perimeters of outdoor surveillance, and do agree with the caller. I don't really care for, nor want to be held responsible for, what goes on outside the property lines - just want to document who's coming up to the doors and, after finding one of the car doors ajar one morning, who's messing with the vehicles in the drive.

Perhaps this will work out, perhaps not - but am concerned enough about the local break-in situation to take this step.

-- Posted by fxpwt on Sun, Apr 5, 2009, at 10:27 AM

JUMY,

I said LEVEL Iraq, I never called them innoscent. I just hate wasting time and money. Playing tootsies isn't an option when we lost 3000 American lives in one blow. This "faceless enemy" thing is rubbish. We know EXACTLY who they are, we're just afraid to pull the plug and not be "politically correct."

YOU my friend are the one burying your head in the sand and Baaaing like a sheep to slaughter using sound bytes from your cronies Limbaugh and O"Reilly. You FAIL to look at the big picture and still insist on drawing "party lines." Are you that brainwashed by partisan politics that you can't see you're being played? I march to the beat of my own drum without looking for affirmation or acknowledgement.

Socialism, I appologize for the accusation. Perhaps Parsnips and JUMY are one in the same? It would make more sense.

-- Posted by Megalomania on Sun, Apr 5, 2009, at 10:38 AM

Megal

True history does repeat itself but at the same time I would like to think that people also learn from the past. A ww is not going to fix any of the problems,it in itself would be another "bandaide" and could possibly end with a result much worse than just much death blood shed. War is one thing that is always going to be around but I feel that even though the current Government is failing to a degree that even they have learned from the past and will avoid a world war.

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Sun, Apr 5, 2009, at 10:38 AM

JUMEMY, this is all I saw after ur last post:

Just wrote "I am quite obviously more well read on the issues than you"

Well, since I don't know what you read, I can't actually answer this honestly....but....you certainly think highly of yourself...that is certain!

He raised a tax on those making less than $250K

Yes. Yes he did....for the "greater good"....something you have trouble understanding.

Now....again....good evening!

-- Posted by Theorist on Sat, Apr 4, 2009, at 5:12 PM

-- Posted by Turnip on Sun, Apr 5, 2009, at 10:39 AM

"You FAIL to look at the big picture and still insist on drawing "party lines." Are you that brainwashed by partisan politics that you can't see you're being played? I march to the beat of my own drum without looking for affirmation or acknowledgement."

For Gosh sake, WOMAN, make up ur mind.....!

-- Posted by Turnip on Sun, Apr 5, 2009, at 10:42 AM

Just

Small businesses do not stand a chance. In the last year ours has been hit with the higher taxes, higher insurance rates for our employees, more and more OSHA regulations that cost to impliment, higher wages, higher fuel cost last summer etc. While we are still one of lucky ones showing a profit and not having to lay off employees it is getting harder and harder to give them the same benefits we always have. If things don't start to change there will befewer and fewer of the small businesses open.

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Sun, Apr 5, 2009, at 10:45 AM

Important election information for Marlbe Hill Ward I residents:

http://aldermanlacy.wordpress.com

I need help on the Board of Alderman. Right now I'm out numbered 3 to 1, electing Josh Andrews will make a very big difference in bringing about the changes we need to improve Marble Hill.

-- Posted by mobushwhacker on Sun, Apr 5, 2009, at 10:45 AM

Megalomania: As long as foreign policy is made by the military-industrial-Congressional-Complex you will have wars. I have yet to receive a suitable reason for the present wars other to support the merchants of death.

-- Posted by BCStoned on Sun, Apr 5, 2009, at 10:53 AM

JUMEMY, sorry 'bout all the grief!

Not to point out the obvious or make fun, of you anyway...

Did u try to click on the "See all comments" on top; plus I think there is one at the bottom when you first log on...plus refresh. I can give u a contact if u'd like.

-- Posted by Turnip on Sun, Apr 5, 2009, at 10:56 AM

"Make no mistake: As long as these weapons exist, we will maintain a safe, secure and effective arsenal to deter any adversary, and guarantee that defense to our allies," Obama said.

Let us honor our past by reaching for a better future," Obama said.

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/E/E...

-- Posted by Turnip on Sun, Apr 5, 2009, at 11:05 AM

JUMY,

You MUST listen Limbaugh, or you've been Baa Sheep brainwashed because you are regurgitating the same Errr Ummm rubbish that he does.

Additionally, I still don't think you understand. By LEVELING these territories housing our "faceless" enemies there would be no need for a "hunt."

What is amazing to me that here you are, a claimed member of a branch of the United States Armed Forces promoting hate, belittling the citizenry, spreading fear-monger propoganda (aka...treason)

Personally JUMY, but it doesn't make me sleep better at night thinking our military has active members out bolstering hatred, partisanship, and threatening the rights and voice of opposing political opinion. IMO, it's unpatriotic, unprofessional, and certainly Un-American.

Here is an interesting bit of information I found on the internet.

http://usmilitary.about.com/cs/militaryl...

-- Posted by Megalomania on Sun, Apr 5, 2009, at 11:11 AM

JUMY,

Getting flustered? Maybe you need a "policially correct" time out? LOL! SOS!

-- Posted by Megalomania on Sun, Apr 5, 2009, at 11:17 AM

re: pet donations

sure, every stray dog has the knowledge to HERD animals. stupid city-folks dumping their animals off in the country. I guess that's why the coyote population is thriving -- plenty of fresh domestic cat meat to feast on.

-- Posted by TommyStix on Sun, Apr 5, 2009, at 11:47 AM

It took us 8 years of the Bush Administration to get where we are now--Barack Obama took on this mess by running for and winning the presidency. How can anyone, I repeat, anyone, expect the man to clean it up in 2 months? Yes, give him a chance, for heaven's sake. If the Republicans would become something other than the NO party, perhaps Obama could get his nominees approved, bills passed and start a complete turn around in the economy. Don't blame him--look to the people who are maliciously undermining his efforts to do what he is supposed to do, namely, clean up this mess!!

-- Posted by raygerry on Sun, Apr 5, 2009, at 11:47 AM

raygerry: I'm not a Republican but I don't think that government can fix the problem that it helped create. It can delay a much needed correction, but it cannot solve the problem. Its intervention places an unnecessary burden on those less able, less talents, to do well in the marketplace. We witnessed this during the "Great Depression".

-- Posted by BCStoned on Sun, Apr 5, 2009, at 12:08 PM

JUMY,

Our enemies aren't contained with "a" border, they are contained within many borders. Are you trying to convince me that our prestigious pentagon has NO CLUE as to where the enemy is? Of course they do! Who to level? Start naming names (any country in the middle east for starters) China, Indonesia. I guess that's why I somewhat admire Truman. He pulled the "big trigger" and "bingo" the war was over.

It is apparent our political negotiations have dwindle down to no more than a social worker with a pad, a pencil, and a couch. How many "Time Outs" Have we given Iran, Korean, and Iraq in the past? Yeah...how's that working for us. In the end we had to physically go back "AGAIN" and take out Sadam. The previous encounter engaged by Bush I, was a waste not, want not situation and he failed to make the correct decision in closing the deal.

As far as my knowledge of Clausewitz, it extends beyond that of wikipedia. Infact I studied his works decades ago for a paper. But that's beyond the point. LOL! "Google" is beneath me, I'm much more fond of Yahoo. LOL!

Additionally, this is in no way an attempt at censorship; however, if I were an active reservist, guard, military...I wouldn't be on a public forum boasting about it in one breath and inciting political insurrection in another. Doesn't give much creedence to the words Duty, Honor, and Country does it?

Threatening?? LOL! No, I'm not feeling threatened and don't feel it necessary to "report" anyone. Infact, I find "that" entire concept to be a tongue in cheek option that contradicts the very foundation of the freedoms of speech that the Missourian and it's writers take priviledge with every day.

Anyhow, I have to get prepared for Wrestlemania XXV. The kids are hyped up, and want snacks. Enjoy the day, take a nap, drink a beer or something. Heck, call Parsnips over for an afternoon frolic. But DON'T waste your time on the computer all day. It'll make you fat, lazy, and pimple faced.

-- Posted by Megalomania on Sun, Apr 5, 2009, at 12:54 PM

With politicians running wars for many years, the principals of Clausewitz and Sun Tzu or any strategists are no longer useful, interesting though they may be. I don't believe this country still has the ability and will to successfully wage war or much of anything else for that matter.

-- Posted by RA on Sun, Apr 5, 2009, at 1:36 PM

Socialism,

Eitherway, I think it's unprofessional and certainly wouldn't by my choice, but I guess that's just me.

JUMY,

First of all, let's do have some clarification. I have NEVER been Bueller and can faintly even remember such a poster even existing. Second, I completely understand Duty, Honour, Country in the military sense. Additionally, there was also a time in my life where I took a solemn oath to up hold the laws and constitution of this country. So I certainly know the meaning of "Duty Bound."

To attempt to engage me with your limited intellectual assumptive abilities is just a lost cause. "Oh he's using cockney, Oh he's using cockney!" You sound like such a whimpering little toad when you do that. LOL!

TripleS,

As history has shown, everything old becomes new again. No doubt the principles of Sun Tzu and Clausewitz will be utilized again. God help us if we truly are unable and unwilling to wage a successful war. For if that is the case, all is lost.

-- Posted by Megalomania on Sun, Apr 5, 2009, at 2:12 PM

Socialism,

Entertaining article.

Healthcare: Yep, still completely on board. It's rubbish, it's broken, it's overhauled and too expensive. Healthcare "shouldn't" be about politics. BUT...if that's what it takes to start saving lives so be it. I really have no time for lengthy debates on the subject, but you no my feelings on it...and you know why. "LIFE" shouldn't be an investment for venture capitalists. That...is more dangerous than the government would ever be.

-- Posted by Megalomania on Sun, Apr 5, 2009, at 2:19 PM

pet donations

If you believe what your neighbor told you,you need to find a better neighborhood.

Mostcats that are dropped off are either killed on the highway or by other animal predators such as dogs and coyotes. As far as dogs go most will starve to death or killed on the highway. I think you need to educate your neighbor. The best thing to do is decide if you can provide for that animal and if not leave it where it is at. Spay and neuter your pets to avoid reproduction and if for some reason you need to get rid of it take it to the humane society and if possible leave them a donation to help care for it until a new home can be found for it.

-- Posted by lucien on Sun, Apr 5, 2009, at 2:52 PM

Ahhh...Meg, tasteless and crazy...I bet ur mamas proud?

-- Posted by Turnip on Sun, Apr 5, 2009, at 4:12 PM

JUMY,

I'm still confused as to whom or what Bueller refers too. Again...you don't know me or my chaw or JD habits. But you know...I could care less. "Looky, me thump chest with dunce cap on head. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!" *shaking head* Yeah, you're just so quick witted. *rolls eyes*

"Ahhh...Meg, tasteless and crazy...I bet ur mamas proud?"

-- Posted by Turnip on Sun, Apr 5, 2009, at 4:12 PM

Parsnips,

For once can you make some sense in a post? Hmm...Tasteless, Crazy. Nope, don't get it. I think that's what aggrivates me most about you. You just waste....space. ;o) Isn't there laws against that?

-- Posted by Megalomania on Sun, Apr 5, 2009, at 5:13 PM

"The only way to reduce the number of nuclear weapons is to use them." ~ Rush Limbaugh

At least someone in your party has a pair of bollocks.

-- Posted by Megalomania on Sun, Apr 5, 2009, at 5:18 PM

Well, I'm off to break out the chaw and jack daniels. JUMY, have fun sipping your butter milk with mother. LOL! Maybe you and parsnips can brush up on your cockney and we can all have a chat later tonight. Unless you kiddies haven't already went to bed. LOL!!! LOL!! LOL!!! LOL!!! LOL!!

-- Posted by Megalomania on Sun, Apr 5, 2009, at 5:21 PM

Judging Obama: I recommend that you read "America's Great Depression" by Murray Rothbard.

-- Posted by BCStoned on Sun, Apr 5, 2009, at 5:40 PM

Don't pay her no mind, I think u all have "cleaned up nicely"....:)

-- Posted by Turnip on Sun, Apr 5, 2009, at 6:21 PM

I'm a lil' surprised "others" aren't pipping in, just for shat/grins! :)~

-- Posted by Turnip on Sun, Apr 5, 2009, at 6:26 PM

Gee I missed all the fun today!

Turnip shame on you for being a lapdog and here I thought you had your own mind.lol

Socialists and JUMY

I will add this to comments the two of yu have made. No one outside of the military or their family knopws the full extent of the oath a soldier takes. Even though went through it with my father and brothers I still do not fully understand. I am just thankful we have men and women who are willing to pay the ultimate price to fight for the weaker.

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Sun, Apr 5, 2009, at 6:43 PM

did anyone get hail today when it rained ?

-- Posted by ..Rick on Sun, Apr 5, 2009, at 6:51 PM

Rick

We didn't down here but the rain only lasted about 20 minutes and never got very bad

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Sun, Apr 5, 2009, at 6:55 PM

Looks like I missed some fun today. Oh well; if I didn't bottle that homebrew it was going to spoil.

I gotta speak up for my chap Megalo. He has a unique way of expressing himself, but I think that he is honestly concerned about the direction this country is headed.

Since we are quoting Ferris Bueller's Day Off, I think Megalo is a "righteous dude".

I've noticed that the new national sensation seems to be trying to pin this economy on someone or something.

This line of logic is futile in that it draws effort and attention away from the fact that there is no leadership in Washington today, yesterday, or tomorrow capable of solving this problem.

I have been told that "something" must be done. This is used to justify the government's actions.

I agree that something should be done. My idea of something is to cut spending and taxes.

The market economy has an amazing ability to correct and reverse imbalances and problems on it's own without government interference.

This is the third time in US history that the government has overreacted to a recession - 1907 and 1929 being the other two times. Unfortunately the actions of this government are eerily similar to those of the government that turned the recession of 1929 into the Great Depression.

-- Posted by Lumpy on Sun, Apr 5, 2009, at 6:57 PM

Socialists and JUMY: I was in the military and think that you are over reacting to Megalomania's posts. I think that you would argue with the wind.

-- Posted by BCStoned on Sun, Apr 5, 2009, at 7:20 PM

Willy

I take it so far so good for u as well?

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Sun, Apr 5, 2009, at 7:43 PM

Rick, I got hail :)~ ; it was probably marble sized. Came down for maybe 5-10 minutes.

-- Posted by Turnip on Sun, Apr 5, 2009, at 7:49 PM

Lumpy: Since we are quoting Ferris Bueller's Day Off, I think Megalo is a "righteous dude".

I think that was Wayne's World; they were too "chique" to use terms like that! :)

-- Posted by Turnip on Sun, Apr 5, 2009, at 7:53 PM

what did ya guys think of N. Korea and their "dud" (sp)? sounds like Obama want to continue the "let's talk" bs...

?? UN, if one country does not participate than what can we really do to them? yes there in violation, violation of something they don't participate in??? i may b all mix-up, can someone explain?

-- Posted by Turnip on Sun, Apr 5, 2009, at 8:06 PM

Socialism,

You do seem to forget my extensive law enforcement background. Like the military, that oath is taken with the understanding that "giving my life" was part of that oath.

I gave that oath both in the states of Missouri and Illinois. Additionally, I can recall on more than one occasion when I was forced to draw my weapon. Anymore?? Come on now...since you "think" you know all about me.

-- Posted by Megalomania on Sun, Apr 5, 2009, at 9:19 PM

Meg, did u wake up on the wrong side of the bed today or what? U seem to b arguing with everyone.

-- Posted by Turnip on Sun, Apr 5, 2009, at 9:28 PM

How is comparing the two oaths ridiculous? I beg to differ. Frankly, my life was "on the line" on a more regular basis than someone in the guard.

Additionally, while you may not believe this, Illinois requirements were at that time much more extensive than those required by the state of Missouri.

As far as the military goes, I'll admit that regretably I didn't take that path at a younger age. However, I was more enamoured with the opportunities that were presented to me in a law enforcement capacity.

"Meeting" the qualifications (in my youth) was never the issue, committing myself away from family for extensive periods was.

Parsnips,

As a newbie you're still not familiar with the nature of the beast. Arguing is the fun part of this for me. LOL! This is "nothing" new to me.

-- Posted by Megalomania on Sun, Apr 5, 2009, at 10:08 PM

Well, I say it doesn't matter. Police, fire, active, reserves....we thank you.

-- Posted by Turnip on Sun, Apr 5, 2009, at 10:50 PM


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