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Speak Out 3/25/09

Wednesday, March 25, 2009

The do-nothings

I am disturbed that our country seems to have lost its way. We idolize media characters who have nothing to lose by wagging their tongues. We accept those who cheat unless caught. If they are caught, they get to keep their spoils. We think the way to progress is on the backs of our fellow workers. We are selfish, dishonest and eager to keep it up if it means more riches. I am disappointed in our federal legislators who enjoy total health care but won't advocate the same for us. I am disappointed they have protected-by-law retirements but won't advocate the same for us. The system isn't just broken. It is dysfunctional and getting worse. Don't blame President Obama. He arrived after the flood. But the same cast of characters is still around and just as unresponsive as ever. I am tired of coddling these do-nothing people.

Build parkway

NOW the Missouri Department of Transportation has its piece of the pork pie. It seems to me that $2.2 million to improve Route W out to the new LaSalle Avenue interchange would be better spent building the much needed and more practical Lewis and Clark Parkway.

Unproven strategies

PRESIDENT Obama's supporters should understand that change for the sake of change does not offer hope. We cannot stand by and wait when his policies are not based on sound or proven economic strategies. The path of excessive government spending he is on will only result in more wasteful spending of your tax money and increased national debt. You will experience reality when your lose your job and inflation sets in due to Obama's policies.

A better system

REGARDING David Limbaugh's "Calling on Dem capitalists": Limbaugh wrote that "People work harder when they're allowed to keep the fruits of their labor." I agree, but that hasn't been true for many Americans for a very long time. Teachers, firefighters, biologists, police officers, nurses and many other vital people in our society are paid much less than corporate management, yet they work just as hard or harder to make our society function. How does our economic system motivate them? In a free society, all citizens should have equal opportunity to the same social and political freedoms. That hasn't been true in the U.S. for many years either. When insurance corporations can refuse to sell insurance to individuals due to genetic conditions, those people unlucky enough to have bad genes don't have equal opportunity. Capitalism without any controls does not support democracy any better than pure socialism would. This is a new millennium. I think its time for human beings to develop a better economic system than capitalism or socialism.

Academic woes

I fully agree with Cape Girardeau School Board member Charles Bertrand's comments that district administrators blame their poor academic progress and poor dropout rate on everything and everyone rather than follow through with programs that are working. They start new initiatives each year and hire more social workers and work even more closely with the United Way using our contributions, yet we are never told in news articles or television reporting when any of these money-hungry initiatives have worked or raised academic scores or kept students in school. I wonder if they know. It is not single-parent households or people who are on free- and reduced-lunch programs that are the problem. The problem is in the classroom and with administrators who do not care enough to monitor what is going on in the classroom. My son has watched empty videos at school this year that have nothing to do with the subject he is supposed to be learning. I really do feel that we deserve better in our schools.

Window dressing

YOUR article on Central High School's low graduation rate was insightful. As a parent, I have concerns. Why is the high school's Program for Achieving Success being done only on the ninth-grade level? What is the corresponding program at Central Junior High School and Central Middle School? I would think students who are going to drop out would be at risk in the middle school. Do these administrators get together to plan a program to address these students? It also seems like a Band-Aid approach to do it on the ninth-grade level and then not require it for 10th-graders who are not on track for on-time graduation. I'm sure a bond issue for more classrooms at Central High School and a new football stadium and a new stage complex would make these dropouts want to stay in school even though they can't do the work because they missed learning the basics in reading and math. Throw more of our tax money into bricks and mortar and less into academics. It really looks like the Program for Achieving Success is our district's window dressing for this year.

Mixed message

THE government is increasing taxes on cigarettes ostensibly to encourage smokers to quit for the sake of their health. But the Missouri Legislature is temporarily repealing the law requiring motorcyclists to wear helmets as a matter of freedom of choice. You're free to kill yourself riding a motorcycle but not by smoking. Huh?

School bullying

MUCH bullying goes unnoticed by educators. A lot of it occurs on elementary school playgrounds. Video data show girls to be much better than boys at physical bullying. Their techniques are more sophisticated, subtle and, therefore, virtually undetectable. In-service workshops and ongoing education in this area are vital for teachers and administrators.

Working for myself

I'M a professional person, and I'm not going to work and pay taxes and have my retirement taken away from me to fund other people. I just won't.

Obama's limelight

THE biggest mistake I ever made was voting for President Obama. His socialist agenda is taking America down the wrong road. Being on "The Tonight Show" with Jay Leno degrades the office we Americans elected him to. I'm glad he's enjoying the limelight while the rest of us are suffering.

Misused credit

THE rest of the story about Missouri's historical preservation tax credit program (March 19 article by Rudi Keller) is that the tax credit is being misused -- surprise! -- to fund a Kansas City Chiefs sports complex in northwestern Missouri.

Green tax holiday

I applaud Jackson and Town Plaza in Cape Girardeau for participating in the green sales tax holiday. Times are bad for everyone, and everyone needs to help in some way. I believe Cape Girardeau should participate.

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Students are bullied all of the time by other students. I was taken out of the public school system and put into a small private school. It was hard on my parents financially, However I am thankful to them for getting me out of there. I was an A student and worked very hard to get an education. The bad actions of others isn't just one certain group, You see it from popular students to students you hardly ever see or those you don't even know. Yes there are going to be some problems but when your getting punched,pushed into lockers and threats made on a regular basis, enough is enough !!!!!

-- Posted by Cowgirl-up on Wed, Mar 25, 2009, at 5:53 AM

The do-nothings

"I am disappointed in our federal legislators who enjoy total health care but won't advocate the same for us." I'm a gov't employee and I have to PAY for all but the lowest option. Besides, I am not a fan of paying for health care for someone that I don't know and that I don't care about.

Build parkway


It's in the design stage.

Unproven strategies


Mixed message

Special interests. If motorcyclists can choose whether or not they wear a helmet, then I want the choice of using cannabis in my own home. something something free country something something Cigarettes? Fine. Go nuts. Doesn't bother me either way... although it seems that the cigarette smoking fad is slowly diminishing.

School bullying

It's never going to change. Give it up the complaining about something that you'll never be able to control and move on.

Working for myself

Me too. Unfortunately, it seems to be too late.

-- Posted by isobar on Wed, Mar 25, 2009, at 8:39 AM

JUMEMY, r u serious about the trophies or are u joking, cuz' that's ridiculous that Obama would b wasting his time on such affairs......

Cycle, they already messed up fast food, have u ate McD's fries lately, they taste like shat!

-- Posted by Turnip on Wed, Mar 25, 2009, at 9:43 AM

Some of the problem with kids is that they don't want to get up early and I do mean early (like 5:00a.m.) to get ready and catch the school bus. Also some of it is the parents fault because they have uncaring parents who want to harp at them instead of help them. Also some of the problems is the kids them self they just don't care about life in general any more they think someone else is a going to take care of them instead of their parents and they want to be in the streets night and day. Not all fo but some wants to sell drugs to make money cause they want money and not able to workyet and their parents are not able to give them money also some are just lazy spoiled brats.

-- Posted by casey2002 on Wed, Mar 25, 2009, at 9:48 AM

As a parent of a grown child I dealt with bullying with her and finally I got tired of it and told her if she didn't start fighting back I was a going to tear her rear end up. Well needless to say once she started upholding her self to kids she became friends with the ones that was bullying her around. I told her most of the kids were mouth they weren't going to do nothing but run off at the mouth. Bullying went on when I was In school back in the 70s I was run that was scared of my own shadow.

-- Posted by casey2002 on Wed, Mar 25, 2009, at 9:54 AM

Good morning! :)

A better system....I liked this suggestion! :)

Academic woes...The problem is in the classroom and with administrators who do not care enough to monitor what is going on in the classroom....I totally agree. These people get paid to do their jobs, u can blame parents all u like but the buck stops there. If children are not learning, these schools are not doing their job. Esp. in the higher grades when peer pressure and social activities become top priority.

Window dressing...I agree, put the focus back on education! :)

Mixed message..."You're free to kill yourself riding a motorcycle but not by smoking. Huh?" ....good point!

School bullying...bs, what we are lacking are the students w/enough kahunas to stand up to these bulliers, power n numbers, people!

Working for myself...ah, one more unemployed soul unwilling to work b/c he is full of hate....become part of the problem...dumbars, that always helps!

Obama's limelight...whatever!

Misused credit...to fund a Kansas City Chiefs sports complex in northwestern Missouri....is it a historical building?...just kidding, if true, this is ridiculous!

Green tax holiday....WOO-HOO, I'm so excited...I spend $2500. on a washer/refrigerator and the state doesn't charge me taxes, what's my savings......oh, there is none cuz' I still paid $2000 for the shat...geez!

I know every lil' bit helps & the efficiency will save $ in the long run..go green...rah, rah..whatever! :)~

-- Posted by Turnip on Wed, Mar 25, 2009, at 10:06 AM

they can go ahead and tax fast food for all i care..

i can't eat the stuff myself , or when i do , i have

to sit on the toilet because it goes straight through

me like corn through a goose ..

it seems to me that BO wants to bail out everything

making him the king or something...whatever happened to

private interprise ? is this the "change" BO touted

during his champaign ?? will we last 4 more years of

bail outs--the government should own everything by

then ...

-- Posted by ..Rick on Wed, Mar 25, 2009, at 10:18 AM

Academic Woes and low graduation rates.

It's all the parent(s) fault. You either demand academic success from your child or you don't. Parent(s) are the ones not demanding that their kids get up and go to school. Parent(s) are the ones allowing their kids not to study and not to do their homework. Parent(s) are the ones not demanding that their kids behave in school. Parent(s) are the ones allowing their kids to drop out. Apparently it's much simpler to demand the schools to raise and discipline your kids than do it yourself.

-- Posted by FreedomFadingFast on Wed, Mar 25, 2009, at 10:18 AM

JUMY, that Pittsburgh rubbish you spewed would have caused riots all throughout PA. My wife's fuming and called half the state of Pennsylvania.

-- Posted by Megalomania on Wed, Mar 25, 2009, at 10:33 AM

- The Super Bowl XLIII Champion Pittsburgh Steelers, the only team to win six titles, will soon be losing half of those trophies. After a meeting between NFL Commissioner Rodger Goodel and President Barack Obama, Obama decided to redistribute half of their Steeler Super Bowl victories and trophies to less fortunate teams in the league. “We live everyday in the country that invented the Super Bowl.” said Obama. “We are not about to lose this great American tradition in the wake of these difficult times.” Obama’s plan calls for the Steelers, who are a successful NFL team, to give half of their Super Bowl trophies to teams that are not successful or have not been as successful as the Steelers. “The Detroit Lions are just as much a part of the same fiber of the NFL as the Steelers and they should, no rather will, be entitled to a Super Bowl Trophy as well.” Obama explains in his plan that he has imposed on Goodel and the NFL.

-- Posted by Just_Me_and_My_Opinion on Wed, Mar 25, 2009, 8:27 am CDT

Pure Comedy Gold.

-- Posted by rh3a on Wed, Mar 25, 2009, at 10:38 AM

"The do-nothings--We idolize media characters who have nothing to lose by wagging their tongues."

Unfortunately they are new greatest export.

D Tower

You saved me alot of typing. Very well thought out and intelligent post. School always came easy for me, I got straight A's, but was bullied most of my life. It's a good thing my mother raised a self-confident young man. The bottom line is... If the job is not being done at home there is NOTHING a teacher or admin. can do

-"Mixed message-THE government is increasing taxes on cigarettes ostensibly to encourage smokers to quit for the sake of their health"

Anyone wanna start a pool on when we will be bailing out the tobacco industry

-- Posted by Producer1 on Wed, Mar 25, 2009, at 10:47 AM

First of all, Rick....TMI! :)~

Nowhere in my post did I say that parents should not raise their children, that is implied. I did state that teachers JOBS are to educate my child & bring it to my attention and that of administrators if there is a problem. Not ignore the behavior, slack on their jobs and wait for the bell......adults vs. kids, get it???

JUMEMY, first, thanks for the clarification, that sounded a lil' far fetched. Second, no, I do not find it "a sign of the times" when I have to question the legitimacy of one of your posts.......lol! :)~

-- Posted by Turnip on Wed, Mar 25, 2009, at 10:53 AM

Sorry, I forgot this one..Cycle, my point was the gov has already stepped in to fast food & making them switch the grease they use to make it healthier...needless to say it made it nasty. All this was done to help combat obesity. BTW, that happened during the last Republican stint.

-- Posted by Turnip on Wed, Mar 25, 2009, at 10:57 AM

JUMEMY...dumb something down....that was funny shat! Have a great day as well! :)

-- Posted by Turnip on Wed, Mar 25, 2009, at 11:12 AM


BO looked like a deer caught in headlights to me ..

but he did tell everyone before he was elected that

he didn't know what the hell he was doing...

-- Posted by ..Rick on Wed, Mar 25, 2009, at 11:23 AM

d'tower, Good comments , learning begins at home.

An actual sign I saw in a jail bathroom written by the inmate in charge of cleaning it-"clean up after yourselfs,NO HOME TRAINING, you know who you is!!

I've never inhaled 2nd hand anything from a mc helmet?

-- Posted by rockman54 on Wed, Mar 25, 2009, at 11:27 AM

Many of u are assuming all parents are educated & articulate, not that that makes a difference anymore, the curriculum is constantly advancing.....many don't have the luxury of attending ALL school meetings/functions....stay-at-home moms had to go to work and help pay the bills....this is where it all went wrong....now see...if all moms would stay home, that would free up alot of jobs......WOW, I just fixed the economy and the education crisis in one swoop, dumb my ars....lol! :)~

And let's face it...kids will b kids..many r capable of flying under the radar and still getting in alot of mischief, they lie, they hate their parents and school..hormones raging...geez..their nuts! :)~

-- Posted by Turnip on Wed, Mar 25, 2009, at 11:34 AM

Shortly, all Presidential press conferences will be presented by teleprompter. Questions will be pre-screened prior to the conference and reviewed by the Chairman.

AHHHH...back to the good 'ol days....lol!

-- Posted by Turnip on Wed, Mar 25, 2009, at 11:37 AM

He who seeks good finds goodwill, but evil comes to him who searches for it.

Proverbs 11:27

Where are you looking Willy?

-- Posted by Theorist on Wed, Mar 25, 2009, at 11:42 AM


Seeing the last time I looked Ford was setting at 2.97, I'd say sometime today or tomorrow...or at the most next week. Maybe a good ole Missouri boy is just what Ford needs? Maybe his connection with Dana Corp will allow for some collaberation? Can't be that awful bad of a move. Ford stock can pretty much only go up (or out) from this point anyway.

-- Posted by Megalomania on Wed, Mar 25, 2009, at 11:43 AM

Good point Hilleco.

My parents provided a pretty good incentive for my brothers and sister and I to get an education:

1. Get out of bed and get to school everyday.

2. Pay attention and behave in class.

3. Study and do your homework.

4. Stay in school and graduate.

Failure to follow these 4 simple edicts will result in being beat to within an inch of your life.

Worked for us.

-- Posted by FreedomFadingFast on Wed, Mar 25, 2009, at 12:36 PM

We hillbillies had it made; children wanted to get an education to get out of putting in basement forms or putting on a roof when it was a 110 in the shade. Or riding a horse planter all day. It was the inconvenience of weather and hard work that provided the incentive for an education.

-- Posted by Hilleco on Wed, Mar 25, 2009, 11:11 am CDT

That sure did it for me, but I still like to spend time doing hard physical labor as you can see what you have accomplished. Now that I am retired, I can do it and not worry about the pay.

-- Posted by RA on Wed, Mar 25, 2009, at 12:42 PM

The cheerful heart has a continual feast.

Proverbs 15:15

Its all about attitude...oh just one...

-- Posted by Theorist on Wed, Mar 25, 2009, at 12:59 PM

"I am also wanting someone that won't play the blame game and spread hate as Obama did last night. That is all he knows how to do." - posted by Willy

Now, I realize I missed the first half but am I confu-zied! If by hate u mean him defending his tax policy. His example of what his taxes look like in comparison to most of Americas was interesting...that it won't cripple those making more. Willy, the people u reference will hate regardless...they hated u before for having more...

Blame game, now Willy, we have had this debate b4 and I think you may have won but....u defend Bush b/c his first term was 9/11 but yet criticize Obama for walking into this mess.....care to explain....

-- Posted by Turnip on Wed, Mar 25, 2009, at 1:00 PM


It is interesting that you use a Masonic ring as your avatar, given your vehement opposition to public or "government" schools. You are either 1.) Not a Freemason, and ignorant of the fact that your avatar is a ring bearing Masonic imagery, 2.) A Freemason who is ignorant of the fact that Freemasonry was one of the staunchest defenders and enablers of a public education system in the early years of the United States, and still rigorously supports public education; or 3.) just ignorant.

Which is it?


-- Posted by slim_pickens on Wed, Mar 25, 2009, at 1:01 PM


When the president was asked what sort of sacrifices he would like to see from the American people during this economic crisis, Obama responded that he expects Americans to do what they've always done "which is working hard, looking after their families, making sure that, despite the economic hard times, that they're still contributing to their community..."

What part of this do You have a problem with Willy??

-- Posted by Theorist on Wed, Mar 25, 2009, at 1:14 PM

The mind of a person who has understanding searches for knowledge, but the mouths of fools feed on stupidity...Proverbs 15:14

-- Posted by Theorist on Wed, Mar 25, 2009, at 1:22 PM

Just to expound a bit on China


For the record, I've never been a fan of relations with China, infact...I was hollering to haities about it this past Summer when GWB was borrowing more money to initially bailout Wall Street.

Also for the record, I've NEVER been a FAN Geithner, he was merely a Paulson protoge'. Additionally, he was a former employee of Kissinger Associates, Inc. owned by "Mr. Chow Moa Moonpie" himself, Henry Kissinger. Who...under the direction "I cannot tell a lie" Nixon, opened up formal relations with China. This alone explains why Geithner would entertain such a stupid move.

JUMY, While you can blame Obama for his stupid choice of the "REPUBLICAN" protoge' Geithner, you cannot blame him for throwing us into this financial love fest with China. The "REAL" bottom line here is that after 8-years of the Bush-Ming dynasty...things are soo confuddled that Obama, Elmer Fudd McCain, Mooseburgers Palin, or Jeebus himself couldn't fix this situation in 10 years, let alone one.

I voted for Huckabee, supported Huckabee...but oh no...you all had your heads rammed up Mitt Romney's festering innards. I wasn't about to support Flip-Flops McCain, destroyer of the Magna Carta. You reep what you sow. Fair Tax sounds pretty good about now...doesn't it??

-- Posted by Megalomania on Wed, Mar 25, 2009, at 1:26 PM

isobar, can I have some input into this one?

City of Jackson Flood Maps - Jackson, MO

Hydrology, Hydraulics, Create GIS data for Digital Workmaps

I heard the city was getting bids for some of the problem areas, not really sure if the two are related.

-- Posted by Turnip on Wed, Mar 25, 2009, at 1:52 PM

Forgot to add, NONE OF THE ABOVE.

-- Posted by socialism_kills_cyclists on Wed, Mar 25, 2009, 12:29 pm CDT


Slim, could you please illustrate my "vehement opposition" to public schools?

-- Posted by socialism_kills_cyclists on Wed, Mar 25, 2009, 12:27 pm CDT

Your posts of yesterday do that quite well already.

-- Posted by slim_pickens on Wed, Mar 25, 2009, at 3:42 PM


Let me make this clear, I have only one Saviour, and I feel certain Obama would not like being compared to him.

I find it odd that you and I watched the same news conference, and saw/heard so totally different leaders.

I watched an articulate well mannered leader who is working to bring our Nation together. He admitted he inherited a deficit, were you unaware of this? I really wish you could quit "nitpicking" and try to listen, comprehend, and understand before you start tearing down!

-- Posted by Theorist on Wed, Mar 25, 2009, at 4:01 PM

I'm sure I missed something somewhere--but why didn't they build the Habitat for Humanity house on site and save all the time, trouble & cost of moving it ?

-- Posted by prism192 on Wed, Mar 25, 2009, at 4:20 PM

I have two children in the public school system and two in private schools so I have a first hand prospective.

That's perspective, not prospective.

Do I think public schools could be better with a voucher system? Yes.

I doubt this would make the public schools better. I'm not necessarily against vouchers per se, however before any private school gets any of MY tax dollars, they'd better be accountable (and reportable) to the same standards the public schools are. They must abide by NCLB and have meet the MAP standards. My guess is that this would put MANY parochial and charter schools OUT OF BUSINESS.

-- Posted by slim_pickens on Wed, Mar 25, 2009, at 5:15 PM

Slim, why don't you compare Notre Dame and Cape Central High schools here in Cape Girardeau? Which one has a higher graduation percentage?

Ummm,not a fair comparison. You know very well why.

Which has a higher average ACT score?

Well, I'd love to see Notre Dame's average. Cape Public is in the top 10% of all the public districts in the state.

I could go on and on. I would be willing to bet they meet any standard by which the public schools are rated.

Hmmmm, put the low income population, the under-achievers, the behavior problems, the IEP students and the ESL's at Notre Dame, and see how they continue to perform. Shoot, they get out of line at Notre Dame, and Brother David ships 'em back to Cape Public.

IF you are a Brother, you sure aren't acting such.

Never said I was.

Very rarely do I make grammatical errors. Congratulations, you happen to find a rare example.

Why, thank you. My pleasure. Oh, and you left the "ed" off of happen(ed).

-- Posted by slim_pickens on Wed, Mar 25, 2009, at 5:56 PM

My Goodness, we went from scriptures to spellcheck back to religion, geez...!

btw....Willy...how did the markets do today?

-- Posted by Turnip on Wed, Mar 25, 2009, at 7:12 PM

Could someone please tell me, honestly, how many earmarks/pet projects there are in a average budget? approximately of course.

Obamas 8500. (NRSC)

It's been my experience that often times facts are exaggerated and I want to know, perhaps that is scalping it.......

AIG, they r crooks, nothing more, nothing less...

I see most of this as Republican campaigning, pick at all the "perceived" weaknesses...Willy I think you could take some of your own advice with this one...

-- Posted by Turnip on Wed, Mar 25, 2009, at 7:37 PM

Re: green tax holiday

Turnip - if it helps, the sales tax break is 'only' on the first $1500 of each appliance - but hey, $63.37 is $63.37. http://dor.mo.gov/news/2009/EkFZFEVl.htm

Don't overlook that some of the stuff may also qualify for the federal tax credit. http://www.energystar.gov/index.cfm?c=pr... Beware that some of the efficiency levels required for this particular credit are above the minimum efficiency levels required to be designated as EnergyStar.

After a 20-year period of relatively flat electric rates, suggest it would be wise to prepare for a series of rate increases beyond what has already been experienced. There are upward pressures on electric rates due to things such as higher costs of fuel, the need to finance new power plants (ever stop and figure the annual interest payments alone for building Ameren's proposed $9billion nuclear plant?), the demand for improved reliabiity, increased maintenance costs for the older power plants and transmission infrastructure operating beyond their designed lifespans, and costs to build and to operate added pollution control equipment mandated by law.

On the brighter (?) side, higher electric rates will encourage faster growth in the area of renewable energy, especially given Missouri's recent passage of the renewables proposition. Apparently it takes green to go green.

Ameren just had a rate increase of about 9% on 01 March, and are reported to be making plans to file for another. Most people won't notice the effect until this summer, at best. Utilities are tending toward the implementation of rate increases during the spring and fall when electric demand is at its lowest, when people are less likely to notice the impact to their personal utility bill until the dead of summer or winter when usage has risen again.

Also, on top of Ameren's rate increase, keep in mind that the sales tax rate (ah, you know I just had to sneak this is) has risen 1.0% since Jan2008, from 7.25% to 8.25%. One-half percent being the late implementation of the county tax passed in 2006, and more recently, another one-half percent occuring in Oct2008 which I'm not sure where it came from, but suspect the water park tax.

It's also wise not to have a knee-jerk reaction and to go hog-wild on buying new stuff solely for the cause of energy-efficiency. In the majority of cases I've looked at, it's not cost-effective to replace working appliances until they either fail, have significant repairs needed, or are near the end of their expected operating lifespans - then is the time to spring for the stuff with the higher energy-efficiency ratings. As electric rates increase, this break-even decision point will move earlier in the expected lifespan - but face it, as much as people complain about their electric bill - we've got it better than most, and a ways to go just to get up to 'average' - http://www.eia.doe.gov/cneaf/electricity...

-- Posted by fxpwt on Wed, Mar 25, 2009, at 8:25 PM

Willy, insurance is a scam, con-artists are crooks.

fxpt: Thanks for the breakdown. I do plan to replace some appliances that are close to death...figure might as well take advantage of some additional savings. don't figure you can ever be too efficient. although if come to find out...this ozone layer crap is a bunch of BS there better be a **** government bailout on all my "green" shat....lol! :)~

-- Posted by Turnip on Wed, Mar 25, 2009, at 9:25 PM

Willy, Now this is where our roads veer SHARPLY in different directions....usually anyway,

"No they aren't crooks. That is some more of the wealth envy hate that I told that BO was spewing last night. "

wealth envy to me implies me being jealous of you b/c u have more than I do, i.e. bigger house, more cars, boat, etc.

now this could be b/c:

1) u have worked ur *** off all ur life to get it...

2) mismanaged my funds essentially, received TWO bailouts and still SUCK, oh and all the while owning yachts, house(S), vacationing on my bonuses.....CROOKS!

(athletes, sports, entertainment..all fall in this category...they do not deserve their salaries.)

Did republicans believe in El Nino b4 the election?

inexperienced....the alt. was McCain. did we not learn that sometimes being too personally invested is not good....

it's too late to even get into China....geez! :)~

-- Posted by Turnip on Wed, Mar 25, 2009, at 9:50 PM

let me guess u went to bed.....brat....lol! :)~

-- Posted by Turnip on Wed, Mar 25, 2009, at 9:57 PM

Willy posted "Your type is a cancer on America. The sooner you are moved to a communist area the better. Lets see how you like it there."

The problem with this, William, is that you know nothing about me, and I dare say would be ashamed if you did. Your judging me on, hmmmmm, my political choice for president. I am trying hard not to judge you for anything but your opinions as a fellow poster. Even in that, I realize we may never agree, but that neither makes you better or worse, just different. I am optimistic, and I long for the day to say, I told you so. I hope you too realize that opportunity would mean our country is better off.

-- Posted by Theorist on Wed, Mar 25, 2009, at 10:31 PM

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