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Speak Out 3/15/09

Sunday, March 15, 2009

Politics and sports

I'VE noticed more and more that political parties can be compared to football. It doesn't matter how good or how bad your favorite team does, you're still going to root for them. And you're always going to boo the opponent. This is why I despise sports and politics.

Fixing things

WHEN will the Republicans realize Democrats don't regret putting President Obama in office? He's trying to fix things. The only ones whining are the ones who want him to fail. Stop getting all your information from the likes of Rush Limbaugh. He's all that's wrong with the political system these days: too much emotion and not enough brains.

School hours

IN regard to the four-day school week: I would imagine teachers would get their same pay. The school district has already cut the cafeteria workers hours so that full-time is considered 32 hours. They have to do the same amount of work in fewer hours. I can just see heads spinning at the chance to cut hours even more with a four-day workweek.

Cat stories

JOE Sullivan, I've got another one for you. My cats like to play with straws, of all things. I drink soda with a straw, and my cats are always trying to get them out of my glass. The cats also love boxes. They'll chew on a box and have the time of their lives. I don't really need cats, though, because cats don't like me.

Time to secede

IT'S time for Missouri to secede from the union. The federal government doesn't get it. We Missourians know what's best for Missouri. Several states have already expressed their desire to not be forced to support President Obama's socialist nation. We should join them.

Charitable deduction

IF you've decided not to donate $10,000 to the United Way, Red Cross and Disabled American Veterans due to a measly $700 tax increase, then you were never giving from your heart anyway.

Money for the poor

I hear how the average person is patriotic and should pay more taxes, which is what Vice President Biden said. I have a better idea. All these friends of Obama who are getting all of this money should give money for the poor. The average person is not getting anything out of these so-called investments. I call it rewarding your friends who helped to support you.

Credit rating

MY advice to President Obama is to work closely with the ratings agencies to do whatever it takes to keep the United States' triple-A credit rating. He and Congress can spend as much as they want as long as we keep our triple-A rating. If we would lower our rating to double-A, we would have to pay higher interest to borrow money. Every citizen's standard of living would decline.

House limits

I believe history repeats itself. Prior to the Great Depression there were mansions and great houses being built, with a lot of them being lost as they are today. Then came the period where smaller, more moderate-size homes were built and were affordable by most working people. Now again in the last decade we have been seeing huge, expensive homes being built. One way to eliminate such problems in the future and also save energy is to put a yearly carbon tax on any home over 1,500 square feet. They are the ones that use most of our natural resources.

Jobs and buying

THE big companies in this country have moved jobs overseas. How do they expect people to buy their products when there are no jobs here? There is a lot of blame to go around. A lot of workers who expect something for nothing does not help matters, either. You must produce.


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Jobs and buying

a wicked circle here ...Wally Word , Kmart , etc say they

look for the cheapest prices to pass on to the customer ..

are the cheapest price items made in the Orient ?

are unions the blame for some of this ?

would buy Made in America really help the economy ?

one thing is for sure , we've become a nation of users

and not producers....

-- Posted by ..Rick on Sun, Mar 15, 2009, at 8:54 AM

School hours: According to the federal government 32 hours is a full time job & has been for yrs.

Cat stories ; They're easier to clean if you wet em' down like squirrels.

Jobs & Buying :I've spent 15 yrs in unions & 20 non-union , some of the laziest , non-producing , most complaining were union workers.

They were quick to point out what was "not their job" instead of how to get something done quickly , efficiently , with the most quality they were the 1st to stop production to "go get a steward " to see if the "practice " was allowed , instead of getting on with the job , as always my opinion...

-- Posted by rockman54 on Sun, Mar 15, 2009, at 10:52 AM

people pick the craziest things to talk about huh?Have a wonderful day!!!!!!!!!!!!!

-- Posted by HilltopMom on Sun, Mar 15, 2009, at 11:14 AM

people pick the craziest things to talk about huh?Have a wonderful day!!!!!!!!!!!!!

-- Posted by HilltopMom on Sun, Mar 15, 2009, at 11:14 AM

Politics and sports: I have a difficult time telling the difference between the progressive Democrats and conservative Republicans. We true liberals don't have a political party to chain ourselves to.

Fixing things: Progressives and conservatives spend a lot of time and money trying to fix things. With all the damage that they have done to the economy and the well-being of this nation you would think that their supporters would wise up.

Time to secede: All for it. But the blame for socialism should be shared equally by Democrats and Republicans.

House limits: Must have been called in by a progressive or conservative, the belief there should be rules on the size of your home.

Jobs and buying: Companies, in order to survive where forced offshore by the good-doers minding other people's business.

-- Posted by BCStoned on Sun, Mar 15, 2009, at 11:28 AM

Looks like I missed some fun yesterday evening!

Megalo,

You better be careful ol' chap. You are starting to speak my language.

Why are people so afraid to leave government out of our daily lives? That is the fundamental foundation of anarchy. Government recognizes that which is why anarchy is given a bad rap in the indoctrination programs.

Turnip,

I am a Sabbath fan. I enjoy their music no matter who is holding the mic. Some of their best albums were when Ronnie James Dio was lead singer - especially Heaven and Hell!

I forget who brought up Rush (the band, not the waterhead). IMO Rush are superior musicians. As a drummer I recognize the greatness that is Neil Peart.

My problem with Rush is that they can't seem to write catchy, hook layered songs. I have the same problem with all prog-rock bands.

And I think Louie Louie is the greatest rock n' roll song ever written so my opinion doesn't count for much.

Anyhow, a couple of brave fellas have the audacity to address one of the longest running debates in the history of the universe: is Rush heavy metal or not?

Watch this....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeOrddRaS...

-- Posted by Lumpy on Sun, Mar 15, 2009, at 11:42 AM

...the problem with Rush is all of their songs sound

alike...if you've heard one Rush song , you've pretty

much heard them all...a person can pick out Rush on

the radio easy , they have that same sound..

-- Posted by ..Rick on Sun, Mar 15, 2009, at 11:49 AM

Fixing things: The Great Depression ended when Federal spending was cut from $98.7 billion in 1945 to $33.8 billion in 1948. A hefty two-thirds reduction in spending. Is this what Obama is planning on doing, or is he planning on delaying a recovery by adding more government spending?

-- Posted by BCStoned on Sun, Mar 15, 2009, at 11:53 AM

Hilleco,

I know that you have a history with the LP.

I have been a member of the LP since I wasted my first opportunity to vote on Bill Clinton.

Anyhow, I have a lot of problems with the LP, most of which is that the candidates don't seem to take their campaigns very seriously.

I think the LP has the best platform of any political party by far. I also believe that most Americans are closet libertarians.

So, why can't the LP win any political office higher than Assistant Dog Catcher?

I think it is because the LP doesn't do a very good job at supporting their candidates, and that most candidates get hung up on legalizing pot which is a compelling part of the LP platform, but not even the most important message they should be conveying.

Do you think that, given decent funding, an energized committee, and fair exposure through the media (I know, just entertain me for a moment) that an LP candidate can be viable in a political race that matters?

-- Posted by Lumpy on Sun, Mar 15, 2009, at 11:54 AM

Re: charitable deduction

$700 is not considered 'measly' from my perspective.

IMO, how one takes care of the nickels and dimes will determine how the dollars follow.

Sidebar - torn between amused and infuriated when a car salespeople or realtors talk about monthly payments in terms of 'only'. Just how much do these jokers make to be calling that amount of money 'only'?

Re: credit rating

A fair portion of the credit rating is based on one's current ability to and previous history of paying loans back. Continuing to dig the debt hole deeper without a viable turn-around plan beyond 'hope', 'change', and 'promise' is going to have a day of reckoning sometime in the future - it's just a question of when.

Re: house limits

Already a lot of chatter about a carbon tax on fossil-fueled electricity - to the point that a carbon futures exchange is already up and running. http://www.chicagoclimatex.com/ Suggest that if things continue to progress down this road - we'll all be paying a carbon tax of some portion - all-inclusive, but progressive in nature, as the larger homes generally consume more energy than smaller ones.

While I don't claim to be a master of Economics - have to agree with Wheels - some people don't seem to have even a clue as to how money works.

-- Posted by fxpwt on Sun, Mar 15, 2009, at 12:04 PM

Good morning, all!

Not real familiar with Rush, I think that was Cycle that posted that. My hubby thinks that Danny Carey is the best drummer on the planet. I don't really get that involved, either I'm feelin' ya or I'm not.

-- Posted by Turnip on Sun, Mar 15, 2009, at 12:11 PM

lumpy: I was involved with the LP but left it. The party was managed from the top down instead of from the bottom up. It does not have a strong base to provide a foundation for growth.

I like the idea of no parties. Look how much formerly decent people were corrupted by party politics.

-- Posted by BCStoned on Sun, Mar 15, 2009, at 12:35 PM

i gotta admit i dunno who Danny Carey plays for...

-- Posted by ..Rick on Sun, Mar 15, 2009, at 12:35 PM

lumpy,

If it will make you feel even better, that's always been my language. I like to come at subjects via angles.

Now that I have established this, your points are exactly correct. All I ever hear in here is how "Government" can't run anything right. (Either side) IF that truly is the case...then (as Lumpy said) why involve it in our every day lives?

Personally, there is NO function of government that I couldn't do without. As pointed out by the both arguements Government is "expensive" period. It is corrupt, irresponsible, and bears NO true accountibility to the people. It is the 800 pound gorilla in the room that we ALL must continually feed.

Please...feel free to mention a "law" or branch of government that you personally feel we can't do without. I'd be happy to explain to you how we could.

-- Posted by Megalomania on Sun, Mar 15, 2009, at 12:42 PM

Rick, it's TOOL, a lil' too heavy me.

-- Posted by Turnip on Sun, Mar 15, 2009, at 12:46 PM

Rick, it's TOOL, a lil' too heavy for me.

-- Posted by Turnip on Sun, Mar 15, 2009, at 12:47 PM

Meg...what about police, fire and ambulance services. actually ambulances around here may be privately owned I am not sure but nonetheless I would not want to be without police and fire.

-- Posted by Turnip on Sun, Mar 15, 2009, at 12:53 PM

ahhh...Meg..who would keep track of whose land is whose, u could not rely on a source that was biased, that could potentially become corrupt...well..u know what I mean...nevermind, I feel like I am describing our government now. :)~

-- Posted by Turnip on Sun, Mar 15, 2009, at 12:58 PM

Politics and sports: Like anything, politics doesn't mix well with anything.

Fixing things: Rush, the true leader of the republican party. I can't wait to see if he has the "gumption" to actually run for president.

School hours: Thinking about it...maybe this cutting back to four day work weeks and school weeks is a good thing. Re-instate the BLUE LAW! The moral law~! (Yeah, I know...I just made argument for bigger government)

Cat stories: Here's mine. They're worthless, evil, cause allergies, and will someday rule the world if given the chance.

Time to secede: YES! Now we're starting to move in the "right" direction! But why stop there? Secede from government completely!

Charitable deduction: Completely agreed, so let's just stop giving to these causes. 30%-50% of our donations go to administrative fees anyway.

Money for the poor: "I call it rewarding your friends who helped to support you." Bribes, yeah...just another reason to stop feeding the 800 pound gorilla.

Credit rating: No...eliminate this, wipe out the debt, and go back to a handshake and your word. If you get snookered, personally come collecting.

House limits: LOL!

Jobs and buying: LOL! All of this is just proving my point, not to mention...we could get rid of ALL the lawyers!

-- Posted by Megalomania on Sun, Mar 15, 2009, at 12:58 PM

Turnip,

"Meg..who would keep track of whose land is whose, u could not rely on a source that was biased, that could potentially become corrupt." This is soo easy it's laughable. In this type of society, there is a sense of honesty, and giving your word. If you weren't, you could well find yourself doing a gun dual at high noon. There would be no biased sources. They would be quickly eliminated.

-- Posted by Megalomania on Sun, Mar 15, 2009, at 1:02 PM

"Meg...what about police, fire and ambulance services. actually ambulances around here may be privately owned I am not sure but nonetheless I would not want to be without police and fire."

Turnip, you're worrying your head over the petty things, though I knew these would be the first mentioned.

Police: Why? You'd be just as armed and dangerous as the next person.

Fire: Volunteers, you don't need government for this. It's called helping your neighbor.

Ambulance: Yes, Cape Girardeau County Ambulance is a "private" entity. Ever wonder why they have no competition? Answer: Government.

-- Posted by Megalomania on Sun, Mar 15, 2009, at 1:06 PM

Now that's laughable......."If it will make you feel even better, that's always been my language. I like to come at subjects via angles.", posted by Megalomania.

now I was called a fence rider for that......Meg. LOL

i don't believe I'll participate in ur fantasy land today...the wild, wild, west had it's downfalls as well; dontchaknow!

-- Posted by Turnip on Sun, Mar 15, 2009, at 1:08 PM

"i don't believe I'll participate in ur fantasy land today...the wild, wild, west had it's downfalls as well; dontchaknow!"

Turnip,

You are correct, it did have it's downfall. And the down fall was "Laws" and "Lawmen" enforced and created by only the wealthy.

IMO, Laws must have been originally created to maintain power for the rich or the wealthy. LAWS kept the playing fields from being level. It is a vicious cycle, with NO real solution. Fantasy?? Umm...I wouldn't be so sure about that. A caller to todays SO Forum was already talking seceding from federal government. While I may not see it in my life time, there is no doubt...history will repeat itself and we'll be in the throws of another civil war.

-- Posted by Megalomania on Sun, Mar 15, 2009, at 1:21 PM

Btw, I am NOT a fence rider. As stated last night. It's either black or white for me. No inbetween.

-- Posted by Megalomania on Sun, Mar 15, 2009, at 1:23 PM

Btw, I am NOT a fence rider. As stated last night. It's either black or white for me. No inbetween.

-- Posted by Megalomania on Sun, Mar 15, 2009, at 1:23 PM

lemme put my boots on 'cause the shat is getting deep

in here...

-- Posted by ..Rick on Sun, Mar 15, 2009, at 1:49 PM

MeLange....I chose the flute, my decision was simple really. It was based on the fact that I would have to lug that thing all the way home....lol

i had the privelge of working with Mr. Casey/Nall (CHS)during my band years.

-- Posted by Turnip on Sun, Mar 15, 2009, at 3:01 PM

4 Day School Week = 4 Day Work Week??? What will some parents do. I can't see any companies around this area allowing a 4 day work week for salaried employees.

Unions sent jobs overseas by bullying their way into ridiculous wages. Not Wally World. Consequently they also helped ruin the auto industry in Detroit by sitting on their fat arses getting paid $45 an hour to whine about not having long enough breaks.

-- Posted by thegreatmosely on Sun, Mar 15, 2009, at 3:02 PM

Megalomania...u reeled me back in, i'm so ez. :)~

"And the down fall was "Laws" and "Lawmen" enforced and created by only the wealthy."

well, first of all if my television years are correct, the laws were established yes by the ones who were better of b/c it was them who were being stolen from or were better educated, it does unfortunately, kind of go hand in hand. The poor only dealt with rape and mass slaughters (sarcasm). unfortunately a gun battle at high noon didn't seem to help...been there, done that

"...there is no doubt...history will repeat itself and we'll be in the throws of another civil war."

this I fear may b true.

-- Posted by Turnip on Sun, Mar 15, 2009, at 3:12 PM

Just finished watching "Birth of a Nation" (1915) by Griffith. Kinda puts my entire philosophy into perspective.

-- Posted by Megalomania on Sun, Mar 15, 2009, at 3:33 PM

"The poor only dealt with rape and mass slaughters (sarcasm). unfortunately a gun battle at high noon didn't seem to help...been there, done that"

And the only reason this was possible was because the rich could pay off lawmen or "appoint" them. Been there, done that "hasn't" been done. We've been a world of laws since the conception of the world. Take the 10 commandments. "Man-made" Laws ment to control.

Unfortunately, we're not all born with a gun at conception. Had this been the case, I think everyone would have kept to themselves and left each other alone. There are only two ways to achieve a completely level playing field. NO Government or All Government. Take your pick.

-- Posted by Megalomania on Sun, Mar 15, 2009, at 4:30 PM

"Take the 10 commandments. "Man-made" Laws ment to control"....not everyone follows the laws of Judeo/Christianity, Meg.

-- Posted by Turnip on Sun, Mar 15, 2009, at 5:15 PM

Suggest that with labor-intensive products, it will continue to be difficult to compete against other regions of the world, many of which have lower average wage rates than even many of the non-union jobs here.

If the total costs of materials, labor, facilities, equipment, taxes, and shipping from over yonder are less than the same local costs, then it would seem to make good business sense at the micro-level to move production. If a factory overseas can put a pallet of widgets in the local U.S. distribution center cheaper than a U.S. factory can, then what incentive is there for a business to keep the U.S. factory open?

One of the informal secrets to success is to 'create a demand, then be able to supply that demand'. All other things assumed equal - the demand for low-cost labor will typically be greater than the demand for higher-cost labor. So, what does one do to make things unequal, and to support the employment of higher-cost labor over the lower-cost labor? One suggestion is to find a means to justify that the higher labor costs are less costly overall - in other words, the higher-cost labor pool needs to be able to demonstrate the value they're bringing to the table - in terms of things like 'lower total labor cost per widget produced', 'more widgets produced per man-hour', 'higher-quality, less waste of raw materials', etc. - in order to create the true demand for their labor 'product', as opposed to an artificial demand created by legislation through means such as 'if it ain't made in the US, it won't be sold in the US', etc.

Automation has been a boon to the efforts to make things 'better, faster, and cheaper' as a means to compete in the marketplace. Jobs in automated processes require different skills sets than those jobs of basic material handling - the grunt'n'groan lifting and pushing, fork truck driving, manual machine-feeding and product packaging, etc. However, too many lack the skills sets necessary for working in an automated production environment - basic reading, writing, and 'rithmetic skills, in addition to familiarity with the structured logic and thinking processes required to interface with a computer, or to efficiently operate and troubleshoot automated equipment. Suggest that the demand for these skills-set talents has already been created, just having general challenges with supplying this demand. The need to train people on basic skills only pushes the decision more in favor of looking elsewhere.

Eh, apologies - got a little distracted there with personal experiences. At any rate, IMO, if the goal is U.S. jobs, then one action item should be to find a way to make U.S. labor more cost-effective than its foreign labor competitors while paying a wage appropriate for their talents in their local economies. The challenge is that the solution is not quick, easy, or obvious - as are things like wage concessions, reducing business taxes, or protectionistic measures such as levying import tariffs.

-- Posted by fxpwt on Sun, Mar 15, 2009, at 5:17 PM

"....not everyone follows the laws of Judeo/Christianity, Meg."

-- Posted by Turnip on Sun, Mar 15, 2009, 4:15 pm CDT

And precisely my point again. If not everyone follows them, then why even indoctrine them into "laws" at all? Yes, yes, yes....you keep proving my point over, and over, and over.

-- Posted by Megalomania on Sun, Mar 15, 2009, at 5:35 PM

Me'Lange,

Here are some of my favorite drummers and why...

Gene Krupa - basically invented the modern drum set and the method in which to approach it

Max Roach - be-bop drummer with the chops to back up anyone (and he did), but also the smarts to lay off and ride the groove

Ringo Starr - very creative and underated; he went from playing "A Taste of Honey" to "Tommorrow Never Knows" in less than three years!!!

Hal Blaine - played on more number one hits than any drummer in history, inovative and a true teacher and gentleman

Charlie Watts - NOBODY plays a shuffle that makes you feel nasty like Charlie

Keith Moon - only his life was bigger than his drumming style

Dennis Wilson - the reason I started playing drums; not very "good" by most standards, underated and he just loved playing and looked cool doing it

Bernard Purdie - the king of groove, my favorite Steely Dan song, "Deacon Blues" is a fine example of his work

Jeff Porcaro - another Steely Dan alum, listen to SD's masterpiece "Aja" for an example of his mastery of the groove AND when to let it fly and play aggressive, his most successful work was with the dreadful band TOTO and his drumming singlehandedly makes their music digestable, his life met a trajic end at too young of an age

Bun E. Carlos - just a joy to watch and hear

Bonzo - 'nuff said!

Danny Seriphine - a mix of jazz and rock chops that really drives those early Chicago masterpieces

My favorite drummers may not be the most technical in the world, but they all very musical, and all play for the song. I can admire a Steve Gadd or a Neil Peart or a Buddy Rich, but sometimes the song just needs to groove!

-- Posted by Lumpy on Sun, Mar 15, 2009, at 6:18 PM

Megalo,

While you point out the virtues of volunteerism, i.e. altruism, as anarchy's saving grace; I would employ capitalism and all it's benefits to ensure the safety of our fellow citizens.

-- Posted by Lumpy on Sun, Mar 15, 2009, at 6:24 PM

Just finished watching "Birth of a Nation" (1915) by Griffith. Kinda puts my entire philosophy into perspective.

-- Posted by Megalomania on Sun, Mar 15, 2009, 2:33 pm CDT

I've been meaning to ask you if enrollment in the new Southern Democrat Party included a hood and robe, or if we had to provide our own.

-- Posted by Lumpy on Sun, Mar 15, 2009, at 6:27 PM

"I would employ capitalism and all it's benefits to ensure the safety of our fellow citizens."

-- Posted by lumpy on Sun, Mar 15, 2009, 5:24 pm CDT

Safety? I already addressed that issue. We'd all be armed. "Birth of a Nation" in itself, didn't spawn racism; however, it does prove a point. If you have seen the film, you understand that in the end of the film, it was those "hooded" Southern Democrats that saved Lincoln's Liberals from their self-made demise. That being said, the whinging right-wing need look no further than their past to realize how they got to their present situation.

The term "Southern Democrat" to me doesn't harrow racism; however, it does employ a certain standard of moral turpitude and the very freedoms that Lincoln's Liberals exstinguished. Succession I guess would be the term.

I'm not condoning any of those action surrounding the perceived nature of the Civil War, but I am without a "Leave-Me-Alonist" when it comes to government, and rights. Anyhow, I've pretty much exhausted my brain on this subject. I'm loosing sight of where this all began.

New topic please! LOL!

-- Posted by Megalomania on Sun, Mar 15, 2009, at 8:31 PM

Evening, all! I been working my ars off in the yard...

new subject....

Did anyone see that article about Clint Tracy opposing guantenomo (sp.) detainees being brought to or thru MO for housing? he was quoted as saying "I served in Iraq and u don't want those people as neighbors.."; I believe that's true, any thoughts?

-- Posted by Turnip on Sun, Mar 15, 2009, at 9:53 PM

sorry, my bad..it was a blog, nonetheless..i thought it was interesting....

http://www.semissourian.com/article/2009...

-- Posted by Turnip on Sun, Mar 15, 2009, at 10:35 PM


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