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Speak Out 3/9/09

Monday, March 9, 2009

Government control

FOR those who want a national health-care system set up and overseen by the government, do some research. Look at other systems in which the federal government has decided to override states' control and run things. Our education system is a great example. Consider the result. Is that what you want for your health care? If so, carry on. If not, don't let it happen.

Attaboy

I stopped in to get some gas on Cape Rock Drive and noticed a young man on the side of the road picking up trash. The young man came into the gas station to get a coffee. The attendant asked if he was doing community service. The young man said he was doing it on his own because he saw how trashy the roadside looked. He spent five hours out there. I thought that was nice. He should get an "Attaboy."

Parental guidance

I hear people talking about how children come first. That is not true with most parents. They put themselves first. They give in to the children, and the children boss the parents. That's not putting the child first. That's thinking about how easy it is for a parent to give in and not guide a child.

School taxes

WE do not need more school taxes. We've got enough taxes to pay now. You don't know what it's like to pay $300 for a little bottle of medicine. You don't know what it's like paying $2,000 for 10 needles to shoot yourself in the stomach. I've had enough taxes. I can't afford more. Does the school board want to take my house away from me and put me out on the street? Shame on you.

Wimp chairman

I cannot believe Michael Steele, the Republican National Committee chairman, wimped like a dog when Rush Limbaugh got on to him. He begged for mercy like a dog dragging its tail. We all know Limbaugh is the daddy of the party, and you don't cross him. Steele doesn't have any backbone. Stand up and be a man. Quit being a wimp.

Focus on high school

CAPE needs to focus on Central High School and build a sports complex. We're the only school around that does not have a sports complex. We have to go to Houck Stadium to have a football game. Leave the elementary schools and middle school the way they are. There's nothing wrong with those schools. Focus on the high school.

Financial learning

I was shocked when I found out that children are not taught the simplest form of finances in school. I believe this should be mandatory and started by at least fourth grade, especially now.

Take in a stray

LET'S put an end to all the animal cruelty. Take in a stray and feed it. It will warm your heart. And remember to have that stray spayed or neutered.

Paying our share

WHY should people making more than $250,000 a year have to pay more taxes? They work for their money. They got an education. They did what they needed to in order to get the job done. Why should they be penalized to help pay for everybody else? We pay our share and then some.

Hasn't got a chance

WE all know Rush Limbaugh is the head of the GOP. Everybody's got to bow to him. Michael Steele, the Republican National Committee chairman, might as well quit because he hasn't got a chance. Limbaugh took him to the shed and gave him a spanking.

Keep Franklin

IF we have any thoughts of tearing down or expanding Franklin Elementary School, taxpayers should look at our beautiful city hall that was abandoned by the school board. We were told the Schultz building was about to fall in, so we abandoned that. Washington Elementary School was given away, and the building is being used by Southeast Missouri State University. Any thoughts with discarding Franklin should be thrown out the window right now. If it needs remodeling, then remodel it.

Pray for them

WHEN prisoners get out of jail or prison, they have no place go, no money, no vehicle, no one to take them in. My son is in hiding today because he had outrun a cop. He was driving his truck with no license. The man has to work. How do they expect him to work and keep out of trouble if they're going to keep picking him up? I feel so bad for my son. Please pray for him and for others like him. My son has two weak heart valves and probably doesn't have a long time to live. He's a young man. He's in his prime. His life has been one holy hell. I appeal to people to pray for these young people Everything is topsy-turvy in this world today.

Money supply

CONGRESS and the Federal Reserve have opened up so much money in the last two months that they have effectively tripled the money supply in the United States. That money isn't flowing because everybody's hoarding it. People are scared of stocks. Someday in the next couple years that money's going to start to flow, and when it does we're going to go into a time of hyperinflation. Who can figure all this stuff out? It's crazy.

Utility weapons

MY heart goes out to the Ameren workers who were shot and to their families. It must be scary to stand in front of a weapon with no defense. I believe Ameren workers should be able to carry weapons.

Give him a chance

THE American people have spoken. Barack Obama is our president. We should support him -- at least give him a chance. Those wishing him to fail are condemning both parties and the American people.

Faith guided us

I lived through the Depression years. Even though they were hard, it taught me a lesson of how to live through the hard times and not to buy over my means. Thank God for the Civilian Conservation Corps. That was a lifesaver in my young life. My father joined the corps, and we would get a check each month from the CCC camp. It was a real blessing. My mother was a hardworking woman. She was a dressmaker and took in sewing to keep us all together. She took care of my brother and my cousin and her mother and me. What got us through the Depression years was a praying mother who instilled her faith in our lives. I am now in my 80th year, and I can truly say, as David said in Psalms, "I have never seen the righteous forsaken or his seed begging for bread." Once again, thank God for the CCC camp.

Send an apology

ALL Republicans who claim to be conservative should at the very least e-mail Rush Limbaugh's website and, if you have ever said or even thought anything critical of him, apologize.

Deflecting attention

THE Obama regime and its supporters in the media seem to be infatuated with Rush Limbaugh. Like President Nixon and his enemies list, President Obama has decided to target Limbaugh, a private citizen, hoping to deflect attention from his inept handling of the economy and his Cabinet. Yes, Limbaugh can be controversial, but he hasn't presided over the wrecking of the economy, and he hasn't nominated a bunch of tax cheats to his Cabinet. Obama has done these things. No wonder Obama wants Americans to pay attention to someone else.

All those earmarks

THERE is $8.5 billion of pork-barrel earmarks in President Obama's new budget -- the same earmarks he promised to go through line by line to eliminate. So is our new president in the pocket of special interests, or does he just not care how his administration is blowing the hard-earned money of U.S. citizens in these hard times?

Four-day school

THE issue of four-day school week comes up and the moronic comments begin. "Teachers getting another paid day off" and "I don't want to take care of my rugrats myself" were among them. First of all, if that's your attitude toward your children, God help them. As for the day off, the time for that day will be absorbed into the other four days. Teachers will work just as long, just in four days instead of five. The savings to the district is enormous. Buses run routes eight times, not 10 per week. Multiply those savings in gas, depreciation and maintenance alone and it's quite a bit. Cafeteria workers will work four days, and only four lunches will be fixed. Utilities can be adjusted late Thursday afternoon and readjusted early Monday, creating more energy savings. The economic advantages are huge. Other schools have done this, and it has been wildly successful. Yes, some parents will need day care, but day cares will adjust to meet the need. These parents already pay for it during summer, so adding one day a week is not a big deal.

You asked for it

FOR those experiencing regret after voting for Barack Obama, you should keep in mind that he promised a massive shift toward socialism and is delivering on that promise. Republicans sounded the warning, but the gullible wanted the change that Obama is delivering.


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Pray for Limbaugh to remain in control of the republican party, this way the democrats can get 75% of the votes again in any election and Rush's groupies will get the other 25%. Rush is the best thing ever for democrats.

-- Posted by changedname on Mon, Mar 9, 2009, at 6:48 AM

I'm sure Rush is enjoying all the attention he is getting. Many have joined the vocal Rush haters club and fallen in with the distraction of the day. While you choose to spew your hatred of Rush, the antics of congress continue on with their pork barrel projects and massive spending. Congratulations. Once again we can see why America is headed in the direction it is.

-- Posted by KingsKid on Mon, Mar 9, 2009, at 7:28 AM

morning all

Government control

The government has enough control over us now, why give them anymore.

Attaboy

See not all kids are lazy, disrespectful brats. Gives a little hope for the next generation

Parental Guidance

Unfair to say most here. A lot of parents maybe but not most

School taxes

Agreed we do not need to pay more they need to be me careful in deciding what to do with what we already pay

Focus on high school

Most schools have a football field not a sports complex. With what they spent to build the new school continuing to use Houck makes a lot more sense finacially. Use the money to concentrate on the education aspect first then the sports.

Financial learning

Kids ae learning finacial planning. Hold your hand out and say I want!

Take in a stray

If more people would take responsibility for their pets then this wouldn't be an issue

Paying our share

No such thing as fair when it comes to taxes

Pray for them

This caller is nuts. Her son not only broke the law but he is hiding from cops and yet he shouldn't be in jail because he is sick, in the prime of his life and has to work. Parents making excuses for what their kids do is what is causing this to be a topsy turvey world

Utility weapons

I agree what happened was horrible but if the lineworkers would have had guns it may have bee a lot worse. A shoot out in open area with innocent people all around, not a good thought.

Four day school week

As a parent I still d not like it or support it and not because I do not want to put up with my kids. Kids that have attention issues will struggle even more

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Mon, Mar 9, 2009, at 8:24 AM

Government control

Furthermore, why should I pay for YOUR health care?

Parental guidance

Why does this caller care about what OTHER parents do? Mind your own business.

School taxes

This caller needs insurance.

Focus on high school

Way too late. Fidler ****** that one up--royally.

Financial learning

I wonder who this caller heard this from... Cape Public teaches "finances" along with "math."

Paying our share

Another greedy rich person. Who would've guessed?

Pray for them

Maybe your son should have made better decisions before getting himself into this mess. Not possessing a driver's license tells me that DWI was involved...

Utility weapons

They can carry weapons (unless they're in Illinois or Wisconsin). It's called CCW in Missouri.

Give him a chance

And where has this caller been?

All those earmarks

This might be shocking, but the special interests have ALWAYS controlled the gov't.

-- Posted by isobar on Mon, Mar 9, 2009, at 8:46 AM

RNC Chairmain Michael Steele is a wimp because he's a republican.

-- Posted by Ike on Mon, Mar 9, 2009, at 8:47 AM

Rush is the best thing ever for democrats.

-- Posted by dexterite on Mon, Mar 9, 2009, 5:48 am CDT

I have to agree with you dexter, nobody needs to say a word and this will play out marvelously....laughing

-- Posted by Theorist on Mon, Mar 9, 2009, at 9:37 AM

Government control....eh, the gov already controls so much..what's one more thing! :)~

Attaboy...children doing good deeds...WAY TO GO!

Parental guidance....I hear that...u must b their parent first not their best friend!

School taxes...I agree, NO MORE!

Wimp chairman....Michael Steele vs. Rush Limbaugh

I can't believe anyone would apologize to Rush Limbaugh for anything they said. Besides after enough pills/booze he won't remember it! :)~

Focus on Central High School and build a sports complex.....r u mad? CHS just built a new school, now they need a sports complex vs. using Houck...yea, I can see how the whole 10 min. drive could b such a burden.

Financial learning...should b mandatory... I totally agree!

Take in a stray...again, totally agree! :)

Paying our share...well, suck it up, ur gonna b paying more! :)~

Why should they be penalized to help pay for everybody else....vs. lining the pockets of the even wealthier...which would u prefer?

Keep Franklin....I agree! :)

Pray for them...prisoners...perhaps they should have thought about that b4 breaking the law.

My son is in hiding today...did u know harboring a fugitive is a serious offense, I guess that apple doesn't fall far from the tree! :)~

FYI: hardship license...allows u to continue to work w/boundaries....costs out the ars but..life is all about choices.

Money supply...depression..inflation...which is it?

I believe Ameren workers should be able to carry weapons.....could've, would've, should've....

Give him a chance...President Obama...not gonna happen, slick. This is the American way, vote a President in & then listen the next four years while he's bashed.

Deflecting attention...all those earmarks...blah, blah, blah!

You asked for it...yes and we all know we all get exactly what we asked for......

-- Posted by Turnip on Mon, Mar 9, 2009, at 9:53 AM

Parental guidance; Parents seem to think their kids can do no wrong nowdays ...

School taxes; Taxes that are in effect should be used to better advantage (why do kids get breakfast at school?) is that not what parents are for ? , & yes my folks worked while I was in school...

Focus on High School: Yes focus on the academics , maybe a football field but I think a sports complex is more than necessary (that is a fairly new school) bad or non-existant planning?

Pray for Them ; This was me yrs ago , always making the wrong choice wondering why I was "picked on ", when i stopped thinking like a victim it changed my life, I think there is a book titled "The harder I work the Luckier I get".....

-- Posted by rockman54 on Mon, Mar 9, 2009, at 10:04 AM

Prayer for son:

If you have never been in prison then you don't know what these people go through once they get out.Most of them want to go to work and try and be a productive

citizen,But the system it's self make it hard for them to do so.There is a big difference between the ones that don't want to work and the ones that get out and want to work and comply with what is required of them.

I also think they should be issued some type of drivers

licence that lets them drive to work and take care of personal needs(Not the bar,liquor store or places they know they can't go).The caller isn't nuts she is truly concerned for her son,If this was your son you just might feel the same way...

-- Posted by Cowgirl-up on Mon, Mar 9, 2009, at 10:28 AM

Send an apology..

no way in hell will i ever apologize to Rush or

anyone of his ilk ....i've said it before and i'll

say it again , Rush is a piece of polished shat....

-- Posted by ..Rick on Mon, Mar 9, 2009, at 10:36 AM

cowgirl up

being in prison means they have done their time and paid their debt to society. True a lot of them are right back in there after awhile but some arent. They also have a thing called a hard ship license and if you can apply for these. No if you have had 3 or 4 dwi then you will not get one and do not deserve one, get a bike and start riding. Not having a license in no way excuses anyone from working. HIDING from the cops because you do not want to go to jail is no taking reponsibility for your actions. The mom needs to quit making excuses and make him accept what he is doing is wrong THEN someone might pray for him.

And yes if it was my kid I wouldn't want to see them in jail but they made the choice not me and I am not going to make excuses for them to justify what they do wrong.

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Mon, Mar 9, 2009, at 10:46 AM

Rush is a popping off and not thinking before hand. Sure he is an educated person but some of the recent comments he has made sure wouldn't let anyone know it.

I am not a big Obama fan but he was the one the majority wanted in office fine to stand and say you hope his policies fail just shows how little respect you have for the office of president or the nation as a whole.

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Mon, Mar 9, 2009, at 10:50 AM

In the end, we're all going to lose ... well, except the Chinese because our Sec of State continues to pimp us out to them in order to fund a new brand of socialism.

-- Posted by Just_Me_and_My_Opinion on Mon, Mar 9, 2009, 8:55 am CDT

Can you cite your sources on this....laughing....

-- Posted by Theorist on Mon, Mar 9, 2009, at 10:55 AM

rockman54,

You said what I tried all my career to get through to offenders, but few people ever "get it" as to realize that you have control over your life means you have to do something about it. For many this is hard work and it is so much easier to blame others. For those others, it is liberating. It worked for me and I am glad to see it did for you.

-- Posted by Alt Ctrl Del on Mon, Mar 9, 2009, at 11:32 AM

Willy

you are right they don't. We had someone come out to do an estimate on redoing our porch, the guy gets out with hi helper who had tattoos all over, eyes, lips and who knows what else pierced etc. The guys estimate was the cheapest we got but he still didn't get the job. If they can not take any pride in personal appearance how am I to know they will in their work.

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Mon, Mar 9, 2009, at 11:35 AM

Tattoos:

I "try" not to judge by appearance as I know a lot of former military who have a lot of tattoos as well as other young people who have never even gotten a ticket.

I don't have any and don't like them, but my kids have them and they are becoming the "norm".

Having said that, I accept that many will not hire someone with them and if a person chooses to wear them then they have to accept the consequences.

-- Posted by Alt Ctrl Del on Mon, Mar 9, 2009, at 11:47 AM

We can always count on Dexterite to post something profoundly idiotic. Thanks Dexterite for making me smile. Keep em coming!

-- Posted by luv2argue on Mon, Mar 9, 2009, at 11:50 AM

kcpo

I do not have a problem with tattoos that are done in taste. I know each person has ther own personality etc but o put offensive language as a tattoo on your body or the tear drops down your face (prison) is a little much.

maybe I am just getting old who knows.

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Mon, Mar 9, 2009, at 11:53 AM

regarding tattoos...

some of the young women might regret getting a

tramp stamp when they get older ...the **** thing

will get wrinkled and saggy when they are 60 years

old or so...

-- Posted by ..Rick on Mon, Mar 9, 2009, at 12:09 PM

rick

that is what I told my daughter but she still says when she turns 18 she is getting one.

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Mon, Mar 9, 2009, at 12:12 PM

rick

that is what I told my daughter but she still says when she turns 18 she is getting one.

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Mon, Mar 9, 2009, at 12:12 PM

rick

that is what I told my daughter but she still says when she turns 18 she is getting one.

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Mon, Mar 9, 2009, at 12:12 PM

i was smart ...i did my own tattoo when i was 16 ..

thank god i chickened out right after i started

and only did a "C" on my wrist ..

-- Posted by ..Rick on Mon, Mar 9, 2009, at 12:20 PM

Dont worry those with Tatoos. The recent stimulus plan in included a few hundred thousand dollars for Tat removal for those in gangs. So.... in case you or a loved one wants to get it removed, simply ask the federal government to be included.

-- Posted by luv2argue on Mon, Mar 9, 2009, at 12:31 PM

Got this from Heritage

"last month while he was defending the $700 billion Wall Street bailout program, Rep. Barney Frank (D-MA) said: “The biggest ongoing threat to fiscal sanity in this country, I believe, is an open-ended, ever expanding military budget that goes far beyond what is necessary.”

Surprised that Barney Rubble Frank is still a "go to" guy after HE is the one who fell asleep when the Sub-prime mortgage floodgates were kept open. When they should've been closed years ago.

Just speaking from experiance as a former loan officer.

-- Posted by fajar on Mon, Mar 9, 2009, at 12:34 PM

First of all Steele wasn't apologizing to Limbaugh, he was apologizing to the 20 million or so established listeners and the millions more who would if they could. Second of all, it's not those folks who are in play here; it's the millions of Democrats now becoming painfully aware of what they've done. We'll see how good they are at correcting mistakes. Watch out for the Tea Party near you. If you think politicians don't blow in the voter wind, you don't know politicians. Hopefully the Obama amateur hour will last only four years, or better yet that he isn't as stupid as his actions would indicate.

-- Posted by blogbudsman on Mon, Mar 9, 2009, at 12:37 PM

Semoangel,

I know what you mean about the tear drop, offensive language and "gang" tattoos.

I am pretty sure I am older than you, so it's not age. I just worked with a lot of them who changed their lives and could not afford the cost of tattoo removal. These are often however good indicators that you might want to use a more enhanced selection process, so I don't say they should be ignored, maybe just not the primary reason not to hire or trust.

Not trying to preach or judge, just observations.

-- Posted by Alt Ctrl Del on Mon, Mar 9, 2009, at 12:40 PM

It's really not debateable, but we can discuss it if you'd like.

-- Posted by Just_Me_and_My_Opinion on Mon, Mar 9, 2009, 10:14 am CDT

Just as I thought, closeminded and biased presuming, and pedantically assuming....you have no substancial stance, just "venting".....and yes, your good for a laugh!

-- Posted by Theorist on Mon, Mar 9, 2009, at 12:41 PM

KCPO

My brother is a police officer in Festus and over the last 12 years he has dealt with a lot and sen a lot more. He has always said you can not judge because of the tattoos, piercings etc that now more and more criminals look like the kid next door.

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Mon, Mar 9, 2009, at 12:46 PM

Semoangel70

Your brother is right. It is comforting for many to believe that they can "spot a criminal", child molester or instantly judge character, but the fact is we cannot. It always amused me to train new Officers who almost always believed this. Some of the scariest people I ever met looked like the person next door, a good example is Ted Bundy.

I do however understand the importance of appearance in many businesses and sometimes an employer simply cannot take a chance on offending their customers no matter what they may think personally.

As as been pointed out by Willy and others, some tattoos are just simply unacceptable. Often a "cheap fix" is to modify or cover it with something more acceptable.

Of course I can say all of this because I don't run a business.

-- Posted by Alt Ctrl Del on Mon, Mar 9, 2009, at 1:03 PM

City of Marble Hill, Board of Aldermen Meeting, Tonight, 6:00 pm Marble Hill City Hall.

Agenda and packet notes available at the following link:

http://aldermanlacy.wordpress.com/2009/0...

-- Posted by mobushwhacker on Mon, Mar 9, 2009, at 1:58 PM

Just_Me...

Why do I need to prove your ridiculous stance? You are the one who made the statement, YOU prove it, or it is just your opinionated ranting.

And....while your at it....Prove that the rich don't use tax loopholes....HINT, HINT....you can't!

You have already lost credibility, but I will try to continue to read your posts. I am trying to overlook your elitism.

-- Posted by Theorist on Mon, Mar 9, 2009, at 2:48 PM

Theorist ...hooray !! it's about time you told that joker off!!

-- Posted by ..Rick on Mon, Mar 9, 2009, at 2:55 PM

of interest to wealthy tax evaders...

BERN, Switzerland (AP) — The Swiss government says it will look for ways to improve its cooperation with countries such as the United States on investigating tax evasion....

The largest Swiss bank UBS AG is in a showdown with Washington over wealthy American tax evaders. It has provided the bank details of up to 300 wealthy Americans suspected of tax fraud, but refuses to identify another 52,000 U.S. account holders Washington wants.

FYI....Just_Me

-- Posted by Theorist on Mon, Mar 9, 2009, at 3:42 PM

The only difference between Rush...the fact that he's currently being elevated by the White House as part of a larger strategy.

-- Posted by Just_Me_and_My_Opinion on Mon, Mar 9, 2009, 9:44 am CDT

Yeah, that's all the White Houses' doing, it's not him that wants to be in the spotlight...or the center of the universe. What a crock!

-- Posted by Turnip on Mon, Mar 9, 2009, at 3:42 PM

"U.S. officials estimate that tens of thousands of Americans put their money in overseas tax shelters, costing the Treasury about $100 billion every year. Wednesday's agreement between UBS and the Justice Department is being hailed as a breakthrough in the effort to catch tax cheats."

Hey Just_Me, how many middle income Americans do you think are part of that $100 billion every year???? laughing....

-- Posted by Theorist on Mon, Mar 9, 2009, at 3:51 PM

IE: Tattoos...u should never judge a book by its cover! Although if u wish to hang jewelry off of it or put rhinestones through it...I may say it's foolish and walk on by....LOL!

Willy, u r such a stick n the mud!

How can u regret a tattoo on ur foot? The pain is over & u can keep it covered.

-- Posted by Turnip on Mon, Mar 9, 2009, at 3:55 PM

Melange....I am talking about tax cheats, but earlier mentioned loopholes for I suspect they are/were created for a reason....

-- Posted by Theorist on Mon, Mar 9, 2009, at 4:00 PM

Politoc.com reports that David Plouffe, Obama’s campaign manager last year and a member of his inner circle still, will publish

I see words like reports and will...these are not facts. Limbaugh is exactly where he wants to be, the Rep party is in shambles anyway, any credibility they had was lost with Palin...let 'em sink!

lots of despicable people r talked about & more times than not being ridiculed...there is no such thing as bad press.....everyone was talking about Rush why would they b the exception?

-- Posted by Turnip on Mon, Mar 9, 2009, at 4:28 PM

Theorist,

I would wager that given the massive size, and confusing language of the Federal Tax Code, most if not all taxpaying Americans are breaking the law whether they realize it or not.

-- Posted by Lumpy on Mon, Mar 9, 2009, at 4:46 PM

Theorist, Just_Me_And, and turnip

Why are you arguing over the benefits, or the lacks subsequently, of a tax system that is cruel, stupid, gutless, baffling, obese, unjust, progressive, F'ck'd Up, and just what Uncle Karl had in mind when he wrote his annual best seller?

-- Posted by Lumpy on Mon, Mar 9, 2009, at 5:19 PM

It amuses me how far wealth envy goes or whom some will accuse of being wealthy. I am far from wealthy and don't own a business, but pay a professional every year to prepare my taxes. It is not that expensive. One year my wife and I prepared our own taxes and received a considerable refund when the IRS noticed we had "cheated" ourselves.

It would be interesting to know what some consider a "loophole" and what is considered a legitimate deduction. I imagine it mostly depends on which you qualify for.

-- Posted by RA on Mon, Mar 9, 2009, at 5:20 PM

The Tax Cut software (about $20) we used to file our taxes flagged anything we missed on our taxes (loopholes or otherwise). Guess that's called cheatin' for less.

-- Posted by FreedomFadingFast on Mon, Mar 9, 2009, at 5:21 PM

Lumpy..I bowed out of the ridiculous "tax cheat" debate like last week...JUMEMY & I were talking about Rush Limbaugh..one that would fit under the same catagories you mentioned...so point taken...no mo' RL! :)~

-- Posted by Turnip on Mon, Mar 9, 2009, at 5:21 PM

BTW: Lumpy..what's ur new avatar say...

-- Posted by Turnip on Mon, Mar 9, 2009, at 5:23 PM

It amuses me how far wealth envy goes or whom some will accuse of being wealthy. I am far from wealthy and don't own a business, but pay a professional every year to prepare my taxes. It is not that expensive. One year my wife and I prepared our own taxes and received a considerable refund when the IRS noticed we had "cheated" ourselves.

It would be interesting to know what some consider a "loophole" and what is considered a legitimate deduction. I imagine it mostly depends on which you qualify for.

-- Posted by RA on Mon, Mar 9, 2009, at 5:24 PM

Turnip,

I'm drunk.

Sorry, I meant Me'Lange.

The compelling Rush debate is so much more immediate than taxes. My bad.

BTW: who is your favorite Jonus Brother?

-- Posted by Lumpy on Mon, Mar 9, 2009, at 5:27 PM

I'm betting that Obammy slips on his "Made in China" knee pads, puckers his lips, and plants a big one on China's *ss. Can't be a socialist without appeasing the socialists.

-- Posted by FreedomFadingFast on Mon, Mar 9, 2009, at 5:30 PM

Just_Me_And_My_Opinion,

Well, I guess I was "rich" before my wife and I retired then, but it sure didn't feel like it. Now not only do I not feel like it, I don't even qualify by the most virulent of the class warfare warriors on here. Somehow though I doubt that will even be sufficient as I don't owe one single debt, own my own house, land, vehicles and have money in the bank, well I did as of Friday, haven't checked today...

Gotta go back out and clear some more storm damage, check back later, good luck.

-- Posted by RA on Mon, Mar 9, 2009, at 5:39 PM

jUST_mE_And,

Here is my solution....

Everybody stop paying Federal income taxes! Send this country back to the dark ages of, of, dare I say it, the dark ages of, GULP, the bad old days of, of, of....................................................................................................................................................................1997!!!!!!

-- Posted by Lumpy on Mon, Mar 9, 2009, at 5:44 PM

MeLange,

By citing the Sarbanes-Oxley Act you have nailed down one of the root causes of the financial nightmare this country finds itself in!

-- Posted by Lumpy on Mon, Mar 9, 2009, at 5:49 PM

What would the response be if there was a national movement among 100,000 - 200,000 Patriots, who for one mesely week...

1. Maxed out their Federal income tax deductions - thus paying as few taxes as possible. Ex. claiming 20 dependents.

2. Did not make any personal purchases - fill the car , stock up on groceries, stay at home, etc.

3. Wrote their Congressmen every day just to say "hello" and tell them what is on their mind.

I think that would make more noise than these cutesy "tea parties" that have been thrown.

-- Posted by Lumpy on Mon, Mar 9, 2009, at 6:00 PM

MeLange,

Fair enough. It is too complex, boring, and un-American to discuss on a Monday.

-- Posted by Lumpy on Mon, Mar 9, 2009, at 6:02 PM

A NEW BILL IS CURENTLY BEING INTRODUCED TO THE MISSOURI LEGISLATURE TO STOP CHILDREN THAT ARE VICTIMS OF SEXUAL ABUSE FROM HAVING TO GO IN AND GIVE DEPOSITIONS FOR THE DEFENSE. mISSOURI IS ONE OF THE FEW STATES THAT STILL ALLOWS THIS. pLEASE EVERYONE CALL YOUR REPRESENTATIVE AND OFFER SUPPORT TO GET THIS BILL PASSED. THESE KIDS HAVE BEEN THROUGH ENOUGH WITHOUT HAVING TO GO THROUGH MORE DEPOSITIONS AND THEN A TRIAL. THE ABUSER HAS ALL THE RIGHTS LETS TAKE THE RIGHTS AWAY FROM THEM AND GIVE THEM BACK TO THE VICTIMS.

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Mon, Mar 9, 2009, at 6:04 PM

I'm completely knackered!

-- Posted by Megalomania on Mon, Mar 9, 2009, at 6:11 PM

Loopholes and Tax Cheats.

Well...who is really doing the cheating here? The double, triple, and annual taxation incurred by our government on our cars and homes? Excuse me, but wasn't one of the reasons we defected from England due to "Double Taxation?"

Now...we pay annual taxes on homes and cars. My opinion: Use the loop holes and itemize, itemize, itemize. I shouldn't be getting "double annual triple-taxed" on a yearly basis on the same things anyway. Dissolve the IRS, the militant arm of government, created by...LINCOLN'S LIBERALS...aka...the GOP!

-- Posted by Megalomania on Mon, Mar 9, 2009, at 6:20 PM

In July 1862, during the Civil War, President Lincoln and Congress created the office of Commissioner of Internal Revenue and enacted an income tax to pay war expenses (see Revenue Act of 1862). The position of Commissioner exists today as the head of the Internal Revenue Service.

Frank M. Thorn was the Commissioner of the Bureau of Internal Revenue in the 1880s.This organization was created to enforce these taxes named for the internal revenue to be collected (and was formerly called the "Bureau of Internal Revenue"), in contrast to U.S. government institutions that collected external revenue through duties and tariffs.

As early as the year 1918, the Bureau of Internal Revenue began using the name "Internal Revenue Service" on at least one tax form. In 1953 the name change to the "Internal Revenue Service" was formalized in Treasury Decision 6038.

-- Posted by Megalomania on Mon, Mar 9, 2009, at 6:38 PM

bailout money to GM ....they aren't paying their bills

causing the parts industry to be close to bankrupt ...

you can't throw all your money in the house without

fixing the foundation too...

-- Posted by ..Rick on Mon, Mar 9, 2009, at 6:46 PM

Willy

we'rwe all socialists now...i say bring on the flat

tax too , can it be worse??...

-- Posted by ..Rick on Mon, Mar 9, 2009, at 7:00 PM

Willy,

100,000 to 200,000 people calling in sick at once would punish the employers more than the Federal government.

Besides, I would want to involve retired Patriots as well.

I am just brainstorming. Now that I think about it, not making any purchases would punish buisness owners as well which is not my intention.

I would love to be involved in a nationwide movement that actually reminded the Feds what "We the People" really means.

The tea parties are all fluff!

It would be perfectly legal for working Patriots to simply not pay taxes for a week. It wouldn't hurt the individual at all, but if enough Patriots signed on, it could bring the Federal government to it's knees.

What better example to show the next generation as to the consequences of living week to week on the backs of someone else.

It would also make people realize how much of their money is going to fund the central government.

I think that there are enough Patriots in this forum to come up with something simple, yet effective that would kick the government right in the nads without spilling blood.

I'm still optimistic. Let's hear some more ideas and run with it!

-- Posted by Lumpy on Mon, Mar 9, 2009, at 7:02 PM

JUMEMY, "So, we're going to stand up to the man when asking for our tax money to support our schools, but we're going to give in to the man when he redistributes the wealth because it's better than letting someone who earned the money keep it? Man, that's funny (well, funny logic anyway).

Are u going to tell me that the American people have not been getting screwed for a very long time...Republicans, Democrats...they all suck. From the moment I learned of so called freakin' taxes...They lie, steal, cheat...u can call it whatever the fack u like, redistributed to whatever committee/policy...it's all BS. If u all weren't b*tching about paying for the "Welfarians" you'd b b*tching about the other taxes u were paying.

All of those decietful "Americans" getting richer off the blood and sweat of another mans hard work!

Oh, but they earned it, I went to college to charge u $2000.00 for a 5 min. CT scan or $175. for a 5min. filling. NO...u never earn the right to take advantage of people. Knock ur socks off....roll over, fight it...just leave me out of it!

Lumpy...Sorry, no fav on the brothers, couldn't even tell u their names. I don't know why u r so touchy about ur avatar but I can take a hint, I won't ask anymore, OK. :)

-- Posted by Turnip on Mon, Mar 9, 2009, at 7:03 PM

Anyone else feeling froggy......?? :)~

seriously, long day..I should step away.....im liable to type something i may regret....

-- Posted by Turnip on Mon, Mar 9, 2009, at 7:13 PM

MeLange,

When I finally kicked the nasty habit, the third week was the toughest. All that nicotine is gone and your body is seriously jonesing.

Excercise is what helped me the most in the 3rd to 4th weeks. I know it sounds new-ageish, but it works.

Hang in there, it is worth it for sure!

-- Posted by Lumpy on Mon, Mar 9, 2009, at 7:14 PM

Willy, I get the overhead but be serious, $2,000. a scan, how many scans do they perform a day? There is a good reason all of the local hospitals are adding additions, they r making a killing. Nevermind what they charge the uninsured, I don't care what u say, if u purchased anything for $50. u should not b able to mark it up to $200. screw ur overhead. mind u that is merely an example.

being self-employed....perhaps that is the way to go..u can report ur own income, expenses, supplies, hell vehicles.....Good for u, Willy, I'm glad u followed ur dreams! Hope it all works out for you/yours! But when/if u start taking advantage of people for the bottom line....I hope they tax ur ars off! :)~

-- Posted by Turnip on Mon, Mar 9, 2009, at 8:34 PM

i thought about going into business for myself ...

maybe open a pet shelter and a Chinese Restaurant ...

-- Posted by ..Rick on Mon, Mar 9, 2009, at 9:00 PM

Willy...

do my civic duty by keeping strays off of the streets

dontchaknow...

-- Posted by ..Rick on Mon, Mar 9, 2009, at 9:28 PM

Stop it. I'm hungry and you're killing me.

-- Posted by WhoKnew1 on Mon, Mar 9, 2009, at 9:31 PM

On a smaller scale - suggest that fountain sodas have similar percentage markups. Got whatcha need?

/*****/

How much value does one place on the know-how? One popular story from a different career discipline - http://armswideopen.wordpress.com/2007/0...

Have you ever heard of Charlie Steinmetz? Legend has it that he was a prominent electrical engineer in the early twentieth century. Not long after his retirement, all of the engineers at General Electric had a problem. Although each was wise, they were unable to understand the complexity of the machinery. A call was made and Charlie Steinmetz came to the plant to offer his assistance.

Ol' Charlie walked around the machine for a few minutes, just looking it over, not touching anything. After a few minutes, Charlie took out a piece of chalk, walked over and placed a large X on one particular part of the machine. When the other engineers disassembled the machine, they were amazed to find that it was exactly where the problem was. A few days later, the engineers received an invoice from Charlie for $10,000! This was a lot of money in those days, so they returned it to Charlie and ask that he itemize it. A few days later, they received an itemized bill which read:

Making one X mark - $1.00

Knowing where to place the X - $9999.00

/*****/

Suggest that equipment of cutting-edge technology has a very limited lifespan before it is upstaged and outdated by the next 'latest and greatest' version. Thus, the huge amounts of money must be recouped in a short period of time.

For an extreme and dated example - a 386 computer with monochrome screen, with the mostest RAM and biggest hard drive one could get, a dot-matrix printer, the upgraded 28.8K modem, two floppy drives - the 3-1/2 and the 5-1/4!, and all the other bells and whistles available then - sold for about $2,300 in 1989.

What would such an ancient near-state-of-the-art screamer be worth in today's world? What would one pay for the same maxxed out 'bestest available' setup in today's world, with all the currently available bells and whistles?

/*****/

If profits are regulated, be prepared for the consequences.

When incentive is restricted, results will be limited.

One of the secrets to business success is to create a demand, then be able to supply that demand.

If one doesn't like it, then one shouldn't buy it. If one absolutely has to buy it, then one needs to get over it.

-- Posted by fxpwt on Mon, Mar 9, 2009, at 9:41 PM

Rick, open a pet shelter and a Chinese Restaurant....when would u ever have time to post?

why don't u just catch/trap the strays and sell 'em locally besides we have plenty of chinese restaurants around here! :)~

-- Posted by Turnip on Mon, Mar 9, 2009, at 10:08 PM

FXPT: If profits are regulated, be prepared for the consequences..........

remind me again, what r the consequences?

If one doesn't like it, then one shouldn't buy it...totally agree but that was not what I was referencing. Don't get me started about the fountain sodas, **** Kidds.

If one absolutely has to buy it, then one needs to get over it.....or deal w/the mass destruction of the middle class families in America by making healthcare **** near unattainable and then charge them out the ars when they don't have it? along with the soaring prices of gas, the unemployment...no folks this didn't start with Obama, he is just trying a different avenue..agree or disagree..deal as FXPT would say at least for the next four years...or go with Hilleco..revolt!

-- Posted by Turnip on Mon, Mar 9, 2009, at 10:17 PM

my Chinese food would be unique , it would have a local

flavor to it with a domestic ambiance ....

-- Posted by ..Rick on Mon, Mar 9, 2009, at 10:17 PM

I'm sorry...I left out decent insurance attainable...sorry that's important. hell even suck ars ins. is ridiculous.

BTW: that was not the price that was charged for the CT scan i'm sure (i'd have to look to b sure) that's just what the insurance would allow, if u know bout ins. u know what I mean they probably actually billed $3500.; u see what I am sayin' Willy?

-- Posted by Turnip on Mon, Mar 9, 2009, at 10:24 PM

Willy...gasoline prices: i meant examples that led to the downfall...perfect example...what exactly made the gas prices come down and stay down for the time being anyway?

-- Posted by Turnip on Mon, Mar 9, 2009, at 11:20 PM

Willy, I don't understand why it has to b all or nothing with you...perhaps I don't, well I know I don't understand the full realm of socialized medicine but can't their b both, Public/private?

-- Posted by Turnip on Mon, Mar 9, 2009, at 11:26 PM

Willy, it's healthcare reform....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_care...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialized_...

socialized medicine.....

"The term is often used in the U.S. to evoke negative sentiment toward public control of the health care system by associating it w/socialism, which has negative connotations in American political culture [15]. As such its usage is controversial.

Willy, I read up a lil'. I do believe the difference is: american citizens r more than willing to pay for decent health insurance; socialized medicine is like Medicaid, medicare...I'm not suggesting anyone have a free ride just the opportunity. i don't give a **** if it's public/private as long as it's decent and reasonable. *REFORM*

......again, I guess we will have to agree to disagree...nite!

-- Posted by Turnip on Tue, Mar 10, 2009, at 12:26 AM

Semoangel,

I think this Mother is truly concerned for her son and is asking for Prayer because she doesn't know what else to do for him other than Pray.Asking God to guide her son in the right direction and make better decisions is not to much to ask for.

-- Posted by Cowgirl-up on Tue, Mar 10, 2009, at 8:09 AM

Semoangel,

I think this Mother is truly concerned for her son and is asking for Prayer because she doesn't know what else to do for him other than Pray.Asking God to guide her son in the right direction and make better decisions is not to much to ask for.

-- Posted by Cowgirl-up on Tue, Mar 10, 2009, at 8:09 AM


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