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Speak Out 3/5/09

Thursday, March 5, 2009

Junior high talent

I went to the talent show at Jackson Junior High School. What an outstanding job the students did in showcasing their talent. The teacher, Mrs. Lipe, put a ton of effort into the show, once again ensuring it's success. Great job.

Defense spending

BEFORE David Limbaugh and like-minded anti-progressive Luddites go berserk, let it be known that when it comes to defense, President Obama is proposing to spend just as much money on national defense as did his predecessor, George W. Bush.

Waiting for money

I can't wait for President Obama's socialist policies to take effect. I can then quit working and get some of that easy money everyone is looking forward to. I would like to sit at home and complain about the so-called wealthy also.

Keeping the wealth

PEOPLE who are excited about President Obama's plan to tax the wealthy and reduce the deficit are living in la-la land. The wealthy got that way first by studying or working hard and earning their money. They know how to hang onto it. That's what accountants and lawyers are for.

Jackson burglaries

WE continue to hear about the string of burglaries in Cape Girardeau. How about some reporting on the burglaries in Jackson? If the police are short-handed and can't help us protect ourselves, we deserve to know that we are going to have to protect ourselves on our own. We want to know what is going on in our community.

Washington's advice

IN his farewell address, President George Washington gave our young country two important warnings: Stay out of foreign entanglements, meaning that we should stay out of permanent alliances, and be careful of party politics and be careful not to become polarized as a result of it. So much for listening to good advice.

Good message

CONGRATULATIONS to Cape Girardeau's own Rush Limbaugh. What an inspiring speech he delivered at this year's Conservative Political Action Conference. For those whining that the Republicans need a new message, you need only listen to his speech to discover the old message is still applies. If you believe in life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, our message and party are for you.

Huge success

PRESIDENT Obama's war on prosperity, so far, is a huge success. The Dow Jones Industrial Average is down 3,000 points since his election. American's life savings and college funds have been cut in half. During a financial disaster brought on by Democrat manipulation of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, Obama, Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi are riding high. What kind of political party works for our defeat at home and abroad? These people must be defeated.

Seeds of destruction

WHAT Plato said about political systems also holds true for economic systems. Thus, capitalism contains the seeds of its own destruction. Luckily, we now have a president who can and will save it.

Police priority

IF the Jackson police would spend as much time monitoring speeders driving through town as they do writing parking tickets for high school students, we would all feel a lot safer passing through.

Responsible sitters

REGARDING baby sitters: Call me old-fashioned, but shouldn't you pay the sitter for watching the children? If your sitter requires money up front for four days and then takes a day off, find another sitter. Make the sitter work for her money.


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Junior high talent....good job ! arts are part of getting

a rounded education..

Defense spending....Obama won't spend on national

defense . this is why he needs to let people have

weapons ..so we can defend ourself..

Waiting for money....lazy ***

Keeping the wealth....smart ***

Jackson burglaries....during times of recession/depression

robberies and burglaries seem to go up..lock ur doors

Police priority....ha! somebody got a parking ticket...

-- Posted by ..Rick on Thu, Mar 5, 2009, at 8:29 AM

Woo-Hoo!!!

Got my paycheck yesterday and saw that Obammy Hussien gave me an extra $11. The wife and I are going to go out and buy a new car with that kind of cash so we can stimulate the economy. Only problem is, I was promised $13. Can one of you socialists please direct me to the complaint department. No, wait, never mind. Next April 15th, the IRS will take that $11 per week back from me.

-- Posted by FreedomFadingFast on Thu, Mar 5, 2009, at 8:59 AM

DTower

you can always claim the missing $2 on your taxes ..

$11 bucks a week , now that's change!!

-- Posted by ..Rick on Thu, Mar 5, 2009, at 9:09 AM

Good morning, everyone! It's gonna be another cloudy day, can't beat the temps. though! :)

Jackson burglaries.........We want to know what is going on in our community!

Amen...bring on the reporting....! :)~

-- Posted by Turnip on Thu, Mar 5, 2009, at 9:16 AM

Turnip...

do you live in Jackson ? the lady two houses down

got ripped off a couple of weeks ago , took all of

her jewelry ...

-- Posted by ..Rick on Thu, Mar 5, 2009, at 9:20 AM

Rick....always the smart ars...lock ur doors!

Didn't u hear...they r busting thru windows/patio doors...I knew those patio doors were not safe, so much for remodeling with one of those!

-- Posted by Turnip on Thu, Mar 5, 2009, at 9:20 AM

Yes, I do! It just freaks me out, home invasions..so far they said the burglars r trying to avoid confrontations and only hit when the residents are not home and some r only gonna b gone for a short time...as if he is staking the places out!

-- Posted by Turnip on Thu, Mar 5, 2009, at 9:25 AM

Rick,

The burglar is just following Obammy's edict of take from the rich and give to the poor.

-- Posted by FreedomFadingFast on Thu, Mar 5, 2009, at 9:26 AM

OK...DTower....u baited me....so u would prefer federal taxes b equal for everyone....no matter the income..no matter the family size?

-- Posted by Turnip on Thu, Mar 5, 2009, at 9:28 AM

Oh, Rick...and also around 4-6pm......hmmmm...

-- Posted by Turnip on Thu, Mar 5, 2009, at 9:31 AM

Turnip...

what would be wrong with a flat tax ?

everyone , no matter how much money they have , pays

10 cents on the dollar for taxes ...would that be fair??

-- Posted by ..Rick on Thu, Mar 5, 2009, at 9:35 AM

Yes, Tunip, I would prefer that all wage earners be taxed at the same percentage no matter their income level. For instance, say the rate is 20%, then the guy making $40,000 pays $8,000 in taxes, and the guy making $400,000 pays $80,000. According to my limited mathematical skills, $80,000 is greater than $8,000, therefore the rich pay more than the middle class.

-- Posted by FreedomFadingFast on Thu, Mar 5, 2009, at 9:42 AM

Flat tax or the fair tax would be better than what we have now. The bottom 30% dont even pay income tax yet get a "tax credit" come tax time. How is that fair to those of use that actually pay in and the Feds keep plenty.

-- Posted by luv2argue on Thu, Mar 5, 2009, at 9:42 AM

Has anyone else noticed that all of our doom and gloom prophetizers are silent when something good happens? (Dow Jones, March 4th)

Seems there only happy when they can complain....Hmmmmmm....

-- Posted by Theorist on Thu, Mar 5, 2009, at 9:46 AM

Theorist...

one good day doesn't make a wall street turn around ..

-- Posted by ..Rick on Thu, Mar 5, 2009, at 9:49 AM

DTower....

Don't you realize that the rich don't pay their "fair" share, because they can afford to pay the accountants and lawyers to find all the loopholes?

-- Posted by Theorist on Thu, Mar 5, 2009, at 9:53 AM

Theorist, It's the idiot politicians that were elected by the American people who wrote the loopholes into the tax code. If the American people don't like the loopholes, then maybe they should stop electing the same idiots election after election. (Which they do, as evidenced by the 90+% incumbency rate every election). And don't think for a moment that the millionaire Obammy family, the millionaire Kennedy family, the millionaire Kerry family, and all of the rest of the millionaire politicians of both parties aren't taking advantage of every single one of those loopholes that they themselves wrote. (That would be all of those millionaire politicians that claim to care so much about the middle class tax burden).

-- Posted by FreedomFadingFast on Thu, Mar 5, 2009, at 10:09 AM

Just Me, don't forget about the $900 million for education that Sec of State Hillary is promising the Palestinians to educate their children.

-- Posted by FreedomFadingFast on Thu, Mar 5, 2009, at 10:15 AM

Come on Hilleco, do you really think that the military can be as effective with $10 toilet seats and hammers as with $500 toilet seats and hammers? My God man, this country will be overrun by our enemies with that kind of thinking.

-- Posted by FreedomFadingFast on Thu, Mar 5, 2009, at 10:26 AM

Hilleco...

i thought the soldiers in Iraq shat in the sand....

-- Posted by ..Rick on Thu, Mar 5, 2009, at 10:50 AM

Just...

Define "rich"? Please make it something simple, like individual or family annual income and put it in dollar figures.

-- Posted by Just_Me_and_My_Opinion on Thu, Mar 5, 2009, 9:06 am

Let's say "rich" as in monetary wealth....just to be clear.

-- Posted by Theorist on Thu, Mar 5, 2009, at 10:57 AM

"rich" is anyone who makes more money then me

-- Posted by ..Rick on Thu, Mar 5, 2009, at 11:00 AM

Rush Limbaugh is a piece of polished shat...

-- Posted by ..Rick on Thu, Mar 5, 2009, at 11:28 AM

Let's just say...that rich can be defined as making $250,000 or above. You know, like Joe the Plumber. Who actually hasn't had a year he made over $60,000, until he went to work for the underground media and became an advisor for the GOP.

But can you really put a dollar mark on rich? Rich is really a perception..isn't it? Such as, Just_Me_And_My_Opinion thinking BHO is rich, Me thinking Just_Me_And_MY_Opinion is Rich, and Neil Hamburger thinking I'm Rich, and a New Jersey Hobo thinking Neil Hamburger is Rich. It goes on and on and on in both directions. Isn't it really about first, determining what is a need and what is a want, then...determining who can afford the needs and the wants.

Now, having determined such, I then suppose you could define "Rich" as a person who can afford both needs and wants. While the poor could be defined as a person who couldn't afford basic needs.

But let's examine those basic needs. #1-Life. Yes...I would think this would be the ultimate essential need (to live) And what does one "need" in order facilitate accomplishing this essential need? Air, Food, Water. But let's expound on the associate "preventive" needs to assist in facilitating that the #1 essential need is met. For...without Shelter and clothing, the human body would become subseptable to disease, viruses, bacteria, colds, pneumonia. Soo...we must refer to #1 (life) as a basic need and in order to facilitate this...you must have cloths and shelter, therefore they are also needs.

But there's more. Healthcare. (a need) For, if you get Cancer, Lou Gerigs, Heart Failure. These things could definately hamper your "need" to live. Therefore, we must look at Healthcare as that "preventative" need. A must have.

So here we go. We ALL need...Oxygen, Food, Water, Shelter, Clothes, and Healthcare. Here is where we need Just_Me_And_My_Opinion's numbers. How much do each of these NEEDS cost per individual? Now...I have left out a few things...depending on your climate, you would ALSO "NEED" heating or airconditioning so that your "Ultimate Essential Need" (life) would not come into danger. Sooo we'd need to add that cost into the equation also.

Here is my point, once we have established the cost of these BASIC "NEEDS", then we can begin to establish who is rich and poor. Poor (will not be able to afford these needs) and the Rich will. After establishing this, then and only then can we proceed onto wants.

So I've laid the ground work. Let's see where this takes us. Sure, I've left out some "perceived" needs" but I think the most essential need "life" is a good starting point.

-- Posted by Megalomania on Thu, Mar 5, 2009, at 11:44 AM

Just posted "According to the most recent IRS data I could find, the top 10 percent of US households - with incomes of $100,000 or greater - pay right at 70 percent of all federal income taxes"

I don't consider this the rich....and I agree with your estimates, wherever they come from. You prove my point....The truly rich are able to get away with paying little to nothing...

-- Posted by Theorist on Thu, Mar 5, 2009, at 11:50 AM

Do you realize they would pay 100% without them. Even with deductions they still pay out the nose. you need to check your facts on IRS deductions before you post that BS.

-- Posted by Willy Makit on Thu, Mar 5, 2009, 10:46 am CDT

Ditto....

-- Posted by Theorist on Thu, Mar 5, 2009, at 12:01 PM

Willy...not that you will read, listen, or believe...

The IRS has reported that the number of those earning $200,000 or more who paid no taxes rose sharply in 2005. More than 7,300 of these worthies avoided U.S. income tax entirely, two-and-a-half times the year before. About 85,000 paid worldwide taxes of less than 10% of their income.

Tax Vox...very informative

-- Posted by Theorist on Thu, Mar 5, 2009, at 12:21 PM

Willy...not that you will read, listen, or believe...

The IRS has reported that the number of those earning $200,000 or more who paid no taxes rose sharply in 2005. More than 7,300 of these worthies avoided U.S. income tax entirely, two-and-a-half times the year before. About 85,000 paid worldwide taxes of less than 10% of their income.

Tax Vox...very informative

-- Posted by Theorist on Thu, Mar 5, 2009, at 12:21 PM

This article, which contains links to the primary article, http://www.infowars.com/%e2%80%98acciden... that was ignored by the so called legitimate news media in this country. This should be front page news. Pay particular attention to the last couple of sentences. for the life of me I do not understand why anyone would want to get any sort of vaccine let alone a flu vaccine.

Live Bird flu virus was "accidentally" mixed with regular flu vaccines which supposedly contain dead virus. Here is just a snippet of the article in the Toronto Sun: The contaminated product, a mix of H3N2 seasonal flu viruses and unlabeled H5N1 viruses, was supplied to an Austrian research company. The Austrian firm, Avir Green Hills Biotechnology, then sent portions of it to sub-contractors in the Czech Republic, Slovenia and Germany.

The contamination incident, which is being investigated by the four European countries, came to light when the subcontractor in the Czech Republic inoculated ferrets with the product and they died. Ferrets shouldn't’t die from exposure to human H3N2 flu viruses.

Public health authorities concerned about what has been described as a “serious error” on Baxter’s part have assumed the death of the ferrets meant the H5N1 virus in the product was live. But the company, Baxter International Inc., has been parsimonious about the amount of information it has released about the event.

On Friday, the company’s director of global bioscience communications confirmed what scientists have suspected.

“It was live,” Christopher Bona said in an email.

The contaminated product, which Baxter calls “experimental virus material,” was made at the Orth-Donau research facility. Baxter makes its flu vaccine — including a human H5N1 vaccine for which a license is expected shortly — at a facility in the Czech Republic.

People familiar with bio security rules are dismayed by evidence that human H3N2 and avian H5N1 viruses somehow co-mingled in the Orth-Donau facility. That is a dangerous practice that should not be allowed to happen, a number of experts insisted.

Accidental release of a mixture of live H5N1 and H3N2 viruses could have resulted in dire consequences.

While H5N1 doesn’t easily infect people, H3N2 viruses do. If someone exposed to a mixture of the two had been simultaneously infected with both strains, he or she could have served as an incubator for a hybrid virus able to transmit easily to and among people.

That mixing process, called re assortment, is one of two ways pandemic viruses are created.

Here is a stunning assessment of this "so called error"

which contains a link to the main article. http://www.infowars.com/%e2%80%98acciden...

-- Posted by Thought Criminal on Thu, Mar 5, 2009, at 12:28 PM

Willy...now why do u always jump the gun and assume it's me...I said nothing about "rich", I mentioned the fair tax...geez...speaking of which, how come noone ever thought of that before???

-- Posted by Turnip on Thu, Mar 5, 2009, at 12:43 PM

InfoWarrior, Thank u very much...in case noone told u I have hypochondriac tendencies & I've been ill w/some crazy-ars virus for 2 weeks, 10-day supply of antibiotics didn't kick it & I got the flippin' flu spray...now you post some shat like this:

Live Bird flu virus was "accidentally" mixed w/regular flu vaccines....“serious error”......Baxter makes flu vaccines. If someone exposed to a mixture of the two had been simultaneously infected w/both strains, she could have served as an incubator for a hybrid virus able to transmit easily to & among people called re assortment, is one of two ways pandemic viruses are created.

Thank you very much...have a wonderful freakin' day! LOL

-- Posted by Turnip on Thu, Mar 5, 2009, at 12:59 PM

Here is the Toronto Sun article about the mix of live Bird Flu virus with regular flu vaccines. The company Baxter, claims none of the product was released to the public. We all know we can believe company lawyers when they tell us to right? We also can trust the FDA to take care of us too right?

In 2006 it was revealed http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wg-52mHIj... that Bayer Corporation had discovered that their injection drug, which was used by hemophiliacs, was contaminated with the HIV virus. Internal documents prove that after they positively knew that the drug was contaminated, they took it off the U.S. market only to dump it on the European, Asian and Latin American markets, knowingly exposing thousands, most of them children, to the live HIV virus. Government officials in France went to prison for allowing the drug to be distributed. The documents show that the FDA colluded with Bayer to cover-up the scandal and allowed the deadly drug to be distributed globally. No Bayer executives ever faced arrest or prosecution in the United States.

-- Posted by Thought Criminal on Thu, Mar 5, 2009, at 1:00 PM

Infowarrior....hold up, u lost me...that is a big assumption...."The documents show that the FDA colluded with Bayer to cover-up the scandal and allowed the deadly drug to be distributed globally"...on some legal documents....???

The AIDS epidemic has been world wide for decades....

-- Posted by Turnip on Thu, Mar 5, 2009, at 1:07 PM

Don't you realize that the rich don't pay their "fair" share, because they can afford to pay the accountants and lawyers to find all the loopholes?

-- Posted by Theorist on Thu, Mar 5, 2009, 8:53 am CDT

Actually, the top 1% of earners pay 39% of income taxes, according to IRS data. Plus, that's a larger percentage of the total than before Pres. Bush took office.

-- Posted by rh3a on Thu, Mar 5, 2009, at 1:08 PM

Sorry Turnip. I have been called an alarmist and I accept that, but my main purpose is to inform. I have nothing but love and compassion for my fellow travellers on this crazy journey we are going.

I don't have all of the answers but have lots of questions. My intent is to have people research this stuff on their own. The huge fascist corporate news media in this country have no intention to give us the whole truth. They sell us fear everyday on the news by giving us stories about things that usually don't matter to the most of us. You have to search alternative news to get the real news that really affects us. (sarcasm on)They were right on top of this financial nightmare before it happened weren't they? (sarcasm off)

Sorry again. I have been fighting a weird viral thing for a couple of weeks too. Must be too much tin foil contact on my head.....

-- Posted by Thought Criminal on Thu, Mar 5, 2009, at 1:16 PM

Just...."The "rich" discussion came from Theorist's assertion (or my inference to his his post) that the "rich" are the enemy"

Where do you get this stuff....from the recess of your mind????

-- Posted by Theorist on Thu, Mar 5, 2009, at 1:23 PM

TAXVOX is a blog, and even has disclaimer associated with its content. The tax policy center might be a better place to conduct research.

-- Posted by Just_Me_and_My_Opinion on Thu, Mar 5, 2009, 12:26 pm

I KNOW it is a blog....it has tons of information and cites for easy access....

-- Posted by Theorist on Thu, Mar 5, 2009, at 1:28 PM

Yes Turnip, the aids story with Bayer happened many years ago and was just brought to light fairly recently.

Bayer told us when it happened that they had no knowledge of it until after people became sick. In reality, they knew it and shipped it any way. When it was discovered, they quit selling it in the US. but sold it in other countries. That is pure evil.

Bill Clinton, when he was governor of Arkansas, had friends who made millions shipping aids tainted blood taken from Arkansas prison inmates to hemophiliacs in Canada and the U.Khttp://www.arktimes.com/Articles/Article....

-- Posted by Thought Criminal on Thu, Mar 5, 2009, at 1:35 PM

Yes indeed, the dems want to keep the poor man poor and the repubs want to keep the rich man rich! And I envy both their sex lives.

-- Posted by GREYWOLF on Thu, Mar 5, 2009, at 1:42 PM

The best place to research tax policy is your paycheck stub and your annual IRS forms. This is where you'll find out how much the gov't allowed you to keep to live and support your family on, after said gov't confiscates it's "fair share" for others to live on. You'll notice on your pay stub that the gov't gets it's money before you do, i.e. you pay to support others first and yourself second with what's left over.

-- Posted by FreedomFadingFast on Thu, Mar 5, 2009, at 1:43 PM

"....I do however envy their sex lives.

-- Posted by Hilleco

That's some funny shat right there! :)~

-- Posted by Turnip on Thu, Mar 5, 2009, at 1:45 PM

Have you ever lied to your doctor?

-- Posted by ..Rick on Thu, Mar 5, 2009, at 1:46 PM

Wolf...have u ever been set-up on a blind date? I think I have a good match for you, she looks alot like me! LOL

Rick..who r u talking to???

And hold up again...about this tax stuff...I can't keep up w/who said what..u all r giving me a headache..but implying that all of your taxes go to "supporting people" as you all like to put it is not entirely correct, correct?

-- Posted by Turnip on Thu, Mar 5, 2009, at 1:53 PM

Those who supported the "Bailout" and then the Obama, stimulus/recovery plan will never admit they were wrong. They simply are not capable of it and will in all likelihood counter with some comeback claiming it would have been oh so much worse had those not been passed. What can you expect of people who desperately grasp onto a one day upturn in the market to "prove" anything.

-- Posted by RA on Thu, Mar 5, 2009, at 2:08 PM

Just Me, I'm with you on the tax issue(s).

Hilleco, I read an interesting article last month in, I believe, was Reader's Digest (don't remember the author off hand) about the history of business failures in the U.S. Gist of article was that over the course of history, business failures actually turned out to be a good thing over the long term as when mismanaged and unnecessary business fails, it opens the door for newer and better run busnisses to take their place. Many of these new business's created new technologies that benefited the country and it's people. Not versed enough to know whether or not the author knew what he/she was talking about.

-- Posted by FreedomFadingFast on Thu, Mar 5, 2009, at 2:17 PM

Ther

Market down 247.87

-- Posted by Willy Makit on Thu, Mar 5, 2009, 1:13 pm CDT

Well, Rome wasn't built in a day.....

-- Posted by Theorist on Thu, Mar 5, 2009, at 2:52 PM

Ahh...so now we're on to something.

"Do I think President Obama is "rich"? Since you answered that question on my behalf, I'll provide some of my own input if you don't mind. His reported annual income from 2008 certainly makes him financially more wealthy than me (and certainly appears that he is more solvent that the VP entrusted to manage the dispursement of our spending bill). The fact that he is more financially wealthy than me does not make him my enemy, but his policies and agenda make him someone that I disagree with."

-- Posted by Just_Me_and_My_Opinion on Thu, Mar 5, 2009, 11:54 am CDT

So...would it be safe to say that the economic policies he is implimenting will have the same affect on him, as well as you? I just want some clarification on this.

-- Posted by Megalomania on Thu, Mar 5, 2009, at 2:54 PM

Ditto to you need to check your facts!

Willy.....

-- Posted by Theorist on Thu, Mar 5, 2009, at 2:55 PM

Ditto to you need to check your facts!

Willy.....

-- Posted by Theorist on Thu, Mar 5, 2009, at 2:55 PM

Yes!!! It's Official, Ford Stock has pulled ahead of GM! Praise Jeebus!

-- Posted by Megalomania on Thu, Mar 5, 2009, at 2:57 PM

Willy posted "So you think they should pay all of their money while you pay none. And you call them greedy. You are a leach on society since you pay none."

Excuse you??? Just who are you talking to, William?

-- Posted by Theorist on Thu, Mar 5, 2009, at 3:05 PM

OK...so the majority of the posters agree that Obama and his policies suck....so let's just say...McCain/Palin (oh, Lord) took it...stayed invested in the war in Iraq, probably started crap w/Afghanistan too...do u think the problems w/the housing market, stock market problems (since, Willy apparently is a fan), all the no-good Welfarians would have just vanished?? If I remember correctly is wasn't doing so well under the Bush(R) Administration either? by all means, correct me if I am wrong.

-- Posted by Turnip on Thu, Mar 5, 2009, at 3:06 PM

Uhhmmmm (clearning throat) ... Is that crickets I'm hearing in your background. Thanks for the mid-day laugh!

-- Posted by Just_Me_and_My_Opinion on Thu, Mar 5, 2009, 12:42 pm CDT

No crickets here.....you in Mississippi?

-- Posted by Theorist on Thu, Mar 5, 2009, at 3:09 PM

Turnip,

I don't know how long you have been reading this forum, but I don't remember seeing many who were strong McCain supporters and many did not care much for George Bush.

I was not a fan of GW Bush and see his pushing of the financial institution "bailout" as being an enormous mistake.

There are also several on here such as Hilleco, Greywolf and others who were opposed to both McCain and Obama. You cannot always assume that because someone is opposed to Obama's policies they support McCain or anyone else.

Just an observation.

-- Posted by RA on Thu, Mar 5, 2009, at 3:23 PM

Loopholes of the Rich...D. Kennedy....

Good reading for you, Just My!

-- Posted by Theorist on Thu, Mar 5, 2009, at 3:25 PM

Loopholes of the Rich...D. Kennedy....

Good reading for you, Just My!

-- Posted by Theorist on Thu, Mar 5, 2009, at 3:25 PM

TripeS: I don't assume that if someone is opposed to Obama that they supported McCain; I do disagree that there r some posters who do in fact like Bush and support him viligently...as you may see later. My point was that "they" r griping non-stop about Obama and all the people w/their hands out & it wasn't any different then or wouldn't be any different w/a republican party. last time I checked those were the two leading parties on the ballot to even b considered a candidate, so if it wasn't Obamaland, it would b PalinWorld..and OMG..I don't think we could have withstood that. ( FYI: There are also Palin supporters amongst us). It was just an observation on my part as well!

-- Posted by TripleS on Thu, Mar 5, 2009, 2:23 pm CDT

-- Posted by Turnip on Thu, Mar 5, 2009, at 3:38 PM

I am sending a copy of this to Scott lipkes office so he knows what will be in the papers, media, and emailed to thousands till this law gets changed.

It has been brought to my attention that in the state of Missouri, at the age of 17 yrs. old you , by law are considered an adult and are able to disregard any rules set forth by your parents and are able to move out of your parents home. You are the able to go to your public school and transfer yourself to a public school in a new town in Missouri in wich you will be residing. The new school will then not release any information about the 17 yr old to the parent. However. If in doing so you find yourself homeless and are sleeping in a park the officals of said state can and will take you to a foster home where your parents will be sent a bill for your care. Also if you commit any crimes, or any cause for civil action to be placed against you , your parents can and will be held responsible. Also you are not allowed to enter any legal binding contract such as a lease until you are 18.It is hearby my opinion and the opinion of many others that these laws need changed. If we are going to hold the parents of such children responsible than change the law where the cops will stop telling our kids your 17 you can do what you want. If they are really adults at 17 then change the other laws that say as parents we are responsible for your adult decisions you make.. Please contact your state representative at once on this matter. If you live in Cape Girardeau or Cape Girardeau you may contact Scott Lipke at

scott.lipke@house.mo.gov or by calling him at the Capitol phone 573-751-6662 you may also call his home phone at 573-243-1691. I included his home phone because as public servants they are on call to us 24 hours a day 7 days a week 365 days a year. Parents we need to take our rights back and protect ourselves, and our children. No child at 17 is capable of making adult decisions so lets stop the law from telling them they are adults. Oh and don't think you can emanipate them to free yourself of responsibility because if they are still in school and not finacially able to provide for them selves it doesent matter if you haven't seen them in 6 mths, No judge is going to award you that emancipation. Please email your state rep. right away.

-- Posted by hotrod_girl_is_here on Thu, Mar 5, 2009, at 3:50 PM

JUMEMY, Would it have been better if said person would have maintained their position and not seen the error of their ways...then u'd b griping about that! Some people can never b happy.......

-- Posted by Turnip on Thu, Mar 5, 2009, at 3:51 PM

My last comment should have read "if you live in Cape Girardeau or Cape girardeau or Perry counties you can contact..."

-- Posted by hotrod_girl_is_here on Thu, Mar 5, 2009, at 3:54 PM

hotrod girl....1st of all, that's MeLange's avatar.

Second, I knew this chick once...she dropped out of HS when she was 17 (on her own), signed a legally binding contract for a autoloan (cosigner required of course), found herself in some legal trouble to which her parents were not accountable for, the whole time residing in the State Of MO, are u sure ur facts r straight, cuz' I am certain mine are, of course that was many, many moons ago!

-- Posted by Turnip on Thu, Mar 5, 2009, at 4:01 PM

Just Me and his opinion is boring me. He seems well educated and certainly well advised on current events, but he does not seem to understand politics. Gee Just me, did you really think that Obama, once elected, would do much of what he said when he was trying to get elected?

-- Posted by GREYWOLF on Thu, Mar 5, 2009, at 4:07 PM

JUMEMY....seriously, u need to relax...I never said it wasn't your right to grip just as much as it's my right to grip about your griping...

"Well, we're really in debt now and can't pay our bills, so let's borrow some more money to take a vacation? I doubt it, but that's exactly what our gov't is doing."

that is a terrible analogy...really...

-- Posted by Turnip on Thu, Mar 5, 2009, at 4:08 PM

GreyWolf..I hope I didn't make u blush earlier...I was just teasing....

-- Posted by Turnip on Thu, Mar 5, 2009, at 4:11 PM

Ahh...so a person is officially rich if you make over $100,000 now, so that would mean that all of Congress and the Senate would also be in the same catagory as you, and that the policies they fat catted into the stimulus and policies inacted by BHO would also affect them?

So...what you're saying is...Congress, The Senate, and BHO have essential and intentionally cut off their own noses despite their faces? Right? Additionally, if everything over $100,000 is considered rich, and anything under "$25,000?" is considered poverty, then how can 70% of the taxes fall upon the backs of the "presumable" Middle-Class making $26,000-$99,000? That...is an impossibility. And...if that IS the case or HAS been the case then..."Off with their heads!"

-- Posted by Megalomania on Thu, Mar 5, 2009, at 4:22 PM

Turnip, My facts are indeed straight. I have spent numerous hours on the phone with the schools, juvenille office, police station, and 3 lawyers.I have many more hours invested in communications with our reps. and anybody else who can help change this law. No to offend but a lot of stuff has changed since many moons ago. about the avatar,sorry, my 15 yr old got it somewhere she knows I love penguins so she put it on my list

-- Posted by hotrod_girl_is_here on Thu, Mar 5, 2009, at 4:24 PM

Wolf - Sorry for boring you, but I'm trying to break thru the apathy of people who will suddenly start complaining years from now when it's too late.

-- Posted by Just_Me_and_My_Opinion on Thu, Mar 5, 2009, 3:18 pm CDT

So are you trying to get a head start on the complaining?

-- Posted by DADES on Thu, Mar 5, 2009, at 4:30 PM

hot_rod_girl

Since you seem to have the time, you might want to spend a little of it researching the legal aspects before you embarrass yourself.

-- Posted by Alt Ctrl Del on Thu, Mar 5, 2009, at 4:42 PM

Turnip, sorry for my slow response, but I seldom blush and I thought your comment was well meant and it brought a smile.

Just me, I realize you are passionate about current events and politics however, I just get so tired of hearing the rhetoric from several here as well as the 24/7 media. You keep right on posting and I will keep right on reading them. I must say, I learn lots of good info from so many of my friends in this forum.

Keep um coming ya'l.

-- Posted by GREYWOLF on Thu, Mar 5, 2009, at 4:46 PM

kCPO, I have researched the the legal asspects but since your so wise please enlighten me. I konw what the lady at the juvenille office said at 12:56 pm today whien I spoke with here. I know what the Cape Girardeau Police officers have said, What Cape County has said on the phone and in person, and Jacjson P.D. has said. I know what my lawyers said today. And I know what Jackson and Cape Schools have said. but since you are not the one thats been dealing with this since Nov. what don't you enlighten me on the facts. Since I guess everyone else is an idiot and your so smart. but be prepared to back up your facts because I can and will.

-- Posted by hotrod_girl_is_here on Thu, Mar 5, 2009, at 4:51 PM

Me, lange... no I didnt know that avatar was occyupied and I changed it as soon as turnip said something sorry

-- Posted by hotrod_girl_is_here on Thu, Mar 5, 2009, at 4:54 PM

MeLange,

Yes it did we got full custody of the boys with here to pay back child suuport that was paid to her. I remember your help and appreciate it. I was not trying to argue with anyone on here was just bringing attention to a law that needs changed that would help our parents and kids. these kids are not responsible enough to be adults at age 17. But you know how it is on here post an opinion and every bodys gotta argue. Melange you seem very nice and I am sorry about the avatar I didn't know. I don't mind using my pic of me I have nothing to hide!!! Its always great to talk to you and I hope I can more in the future. Thanks

-- Posted by hotrod_girl_is_here on Thu, Mar 5, 2009, at 5:08 PM

Just Me,

You seem to prefer to “actively participate” in primarily one topic of discussion. Which leads me to believe you’re a little bitter that your pony lost the election and now your “feeding from the trough” of Limbaugh and hoping that the president fails. At least you certainly seem to be a cheerleader for the new republican czar’s recent whim.

-- Posted by DADES on Thu, Mar 5, 2009, at 5:12 PM

Oh, and thank you for the welcome! And please do type slowly as I have to sound out the words phonetically.

-- Posted by DADES on Thu, Mar 5, 2009, at 5:15 PM

Aaaaaah, “Re – pub – li – CON” it’s beginning to make sense to me now.

I’m not too concerned with how you refer to our President in a blog, I’m not one who believes you should genuflect at the mere mention of his name. But neither should he be built up as “The Messiah” as republicans often like to do. Although, I do understand it is much easier to tear down a “straw man.”

And I would love to continue the discussion but duty calls. I will try to check back later.

-- Posted by DADES on Thu, Mar 5, 2009, at 6:03 PM

Oh holy ****!

Watch the video on the main page!

Or... in Chris Harris's blog:

http://www.semissourian.com/article/2009...

VAGINAS!!!!! "YOU HAVE TO LOVE HAIR IN ORDER TO LOVE THE ******."

That's really cool and all but what about all of the censorship that I've encountered over the almost past two years??? My original username was banned because I chose to depict cannabis in my avatar and now you're talking about shaving *******--in a video on the main page nonetheless??? Give me a break!!!!

-- Posted by isobar on Thu, Mar 5, 2009, at 6:28 PM

Oh hell even v-a-g-i-n-a is censored! ******

-- Posted by isobar on Thu, Mar 5, 2009, at 6:30 PM

OK...Greywolf.....the guilt is torturing me....I must fess up...I WAS serious! Shooow..I feel much better now! Now u see why my criminal career didn't go very far, I can't tell a LIE! Anyways, see I know this beautiful lady, self-made, hardworker, independent, likes to travel...no, it's not me..but very close....just in case ur interested! :)

-- Posted by Turnip on Thu, Mar 5, 2009, at 6:32 PM

isobar....thank you so much for sharing....why, would I go and look at some shat that said Vajajas...i don't know...but i wish i hadn't, i wish you didn't...TMI, TMI....geez! :)~

I do see ur point...as I have been banned for my potty mouth! Perhaps the difference is it's a blog and she did warn you....did I stop, hell no...geez..now I will have nightmares about being attacked by bald swollen, red vajajas while being infected with the HR^&0 virus capable of killing skunks or some shat! Thank you! :)~

-- Posted by Turnip on Thu, Mar 5, 2009, at 6:48 PM

So we go back to the cash-n-carry days...working til' we're 70 and relying on our own self-worth, huh...now that's a concept.........

-- Posted by Turnip on Thu, Mar 5, 2009, at 6:53 PM

too much for me to count , too much for me to worry

about..they're gonna do what the hell they want anyways

-- Posted by ..Rick on Thu, Mar 5, 2009, at 7:00 PM

Hi Turnip

The point is this: openly displaying a video like that is no different than promoting a substance that must be readily available and legal or a joke about sodomy. It is a plain disconnect and a hypocritical act to eliminate controversial statements but to allow a video regarding the female anatomy that is rather graphic. Although I'm NOT complaining about the video, at all.

Back in the 1980s, I learned how to read with this newspaper. I've read this newspaper online since its inception. I was one of the first people to sign up when the "blogging option" was introduced. And I get treated like this?

This is a solid F YOU! to the Missourian.

-- Posted by isobar on Thu, Mar 5, 2009, at 7:11 PM

Check this out!

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20090305/pl_...

Time for a run on the banks. Thanks Henry Paulson, you baldheaded schmuck.

-- Posted by Megalomania on Thu, Mar 5, 2009, at 7:15 PM

Isobar, this makes my avatar banning of the McCain/Bush hug look like Romper Room. More proof the Missourian flexes their banning muscle, only when it offends the righteous.

I wonder if any of the SE readers who were offended by the "NUN PLAY" are offended by this?

-- Posted by Megalomania on Thu, Mar 5, 2009, at 7:30 PM

Isobar, this makes my avatar banning of the McCain/Bush hug look like Romper Room. More proof the Missourian flexes their banning muscle, only when it offends the righteous.

I wonder if any of the SE readers who were offended by the "NUN PLAY" are offended by this?

-- Posted by Megalomania on Thu, Mar 5, 2009, at 7:30 PM

Isobar, this makes my avatar banning of the McCain/Bush hug look like Romper Room. More proof the Missourian flexes their banning muscle, only when it offends the righteous.

I wonder if any of the SE readers who were offended by the "NUN PLAY" are offended by this?

-- Posted by Megalomania on Thu, Mar 5, 2009, at 7:30 PM

Hill, If FDIC is going broke, that means there are no more guarantees on "any" banks. Time to hit the ATM folks, draw out all your money, and run!

-- Posted by Megalomania on Thu, Mar 5, 2009, at 7:33 PM

A flat tax at first seems odd but if a rich person buys a soda at roads then it's a buck. If someone poor buys a soda at roads then it's a buck. They wanted equality. Flat tax is equality.

-- Posted by thegreatmosely on Thu, Mar 5, 2009, at 8:05 PM

Also about the hypocracy on this website. Boring Chris from SE Dead can talk about shaved ******'s but you guys zap anyone using a cannabis avatar or anything politically grey.

Also bills must be do as they continue to cut back on printing costs and the paper gets thinner and thinner and thinner.

Makes great birdcage lining and as it gets thinner may be used for toilet paper.

-- Posted by thegreatmosely on Thu, Mar 5, 2009, at 8:11 PM

Also about the hypocracy on this website. Boring Chris from SE Dead can talk about shaved ******'s but you guys zap anyone using a cannabis avatar or anything politically grey.

Also bills must be do as they continue to cut back on printing costs and the paper gets thinner and thinner and thinner.

Makes great birdcage lining and as it gets thinner may be used for toilet paper.

-- Posted by thegreatmosely on Thu, Mar 5, 2009, at 8:11 PM

Hilleco...I can back u up on the bank issue, I have a connection w/ a loan dept. head (if that even makes sense) at a reputable bank and they r upset about this fiasco as well and worry about the reprecussions.

Furthermore, I was told that refinancing right now isn't really feasible b/c so much of the property values have gone down they don't even cover the primary loan.

-- Posted by Turnip on Thu, Mar 5, 2009, at 8:15 PM

Ohhh....Ricky....are we responsive now????

What the hell were u talking about earlier???

Have you ever lied to your doctor?

-- Posted by *Rick* on Thu, Mar 5, 2009, 12:46 pm CDT

-- Posted by Turnip on Thu, Mar 5, 2009, at 8:19 PM

I suppose there are exceptions to every rule - but it seems that sales taxes and property taxes are already 'flat' - as a rule.

In my simple world, figure one can be taxed on what one brings in (income), what one has (property), and what one lets out (sales). Hey, we're already two-fer-three! :-)~

Suggest one theme might be to Keep It Simple, Stupid. It's been my experience in other fields that the more complex the system, the more prone it will be to failures. A flat income tax would be one approach toward simplicity - eliminating all the deductions and convolutions dependent on the type of income (interest, dividend, etc.), and tax credits would be another.

-- Posted by fxpwt on Thu, Mar 5, 2009, at 8:19 PM

Do u know what really burns my ars....even when I pay my home off....it will never truly b mine. If I don't pay my taxes they come and take my shat...what the fack. So this cycle continues...thru every landowner....on every piece of land...through out history...now that's bullshat!

-- Posted by Turnip on Thu, Mar 5, 2009, at 8:25 PM

Hmmm, if one doesn't pay their taxes, the gubment takes their stuff. If one pays their taxes, the gubment has still taken their 'stuff'. As I see it, the solution is not to have any stuff to take. :-)~

-- Posted by fxpwt on Thu, Mar 5, 2009, at 8:34 PM

is why i never had much ...so's the government would

leave me alone...so far so good..

-- Posted by ..Rick on Thu, Mar 5, 2009, at 9:35 PM

I was always under the impression that single people were taxed the most? Is this false?

-- Posted by Turnip on Thu, Mar 5, 2009, at 9:39 PM

Turnip

i believe that's true...

-- Posted by ..Rick on Thu, Mar 5, 2009, at 10:18 PM

Hill,

I would venture to gain, that if all depositors of any bank made their withdraws at one time, the NO bank, no matter how high their rating would be unable to accomodate. It's a matter of solvency, much like an insurance company...very few could "pay off" if all their clients come collecting at once.

The FDIC article is sure to cause widespread panick and cause a run on the banks. Much like what happened during the great depression. Again, if you check your bank with the 5 star rating, I am sure they say "FDIC" protected. After said article, "FDIC protected" doesn't mean a hill of beans anymore.

-- Posted by Megalomania on Thu, Mar 5, 2009, at 10:40 PM


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