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Speak Out 3/4/09

Wednesday, March 4, 2009

Double blow

THE conservative movement recently suffered a double-whammy body blow with the death of Paul Harvey and the retirement of the Rev. James Dobson. Can it recover? No.

School days

AS I am a mother of a houseful of school-age rugrats, you're nuts if you think I'm for a four-day school week.

Quantum leap

DAVID Limbaugh has always been careful not to advocate law-breaking or write that legally passed laws were illegal. Limbaugh has turned to characterizing legally passed income taxes on the rich as stealing. This is a quantum leap into the patently false and puts him no longer on the responsible right, but the extreme fringe right of the Republican Party.

Hidden taxes

IT is interesting that President Obama says there will be no new taxes for anyone who makes less than $250,000 a year. The new taxes he has proposed in his budget on oil, gas and electricity will be added to every average Joe who uses such products. Not only directly but indirectly the cost is going to be passed on to every consumer. It will be reflected in the cost of everything we buy. It has been said that this new tax will be between 5 and 10 percent at source. If the cost goes up, the markup on those products will go up just to maintain the profit margins. An increase at cost of 10 percent at the manufactured level by the time it reaches the retail level is around 18 percent. The $500 payroll tax reduction will not be near the cost of the new tax for the average family of four. What's really sad, though, is it's really nothing more than a tax on the poor, and the president knows this.

Leading the GOP

WOW! Whether you agree with Rush Limbaugh's political views is irrelevant. I think all residents of the area served by the Southeast Missourian should rise in unanimity and express our pride in his accomplishment. No lesser light that White House chief of staff Rahm Emmanuel acknowledged the other day that the current leader of the Republican Party is none other than Cape Girardeau native Rush Limbaugh.

District facilities

I saw in the paper today that the Cape Girardeau School District is again seeking community comments concerning long-range facility needs. Unless the district student population is growing by hundreds of students, I see no need for new buildings. I also have heard from Central High School staff members that they want and need new classrooms. Our tax dollars are supporting that huge complex now. The high school's dropout rate is climbing, and it needs more space. If our district leaders did not plan accordingly for the student population that was projected, this is an indication that we taxpayers do not need to trust them. Even if a new building would not raise our taxes, it would keep the current tax rate going much longer that was originally anticipated. Money desperately needs to go to maintaining the buildings we have now. No one likes to pass a school building in our district and see chipped sidewalks and tattered American flags. Why do we need a committee for this? Don't we pay someone on the district level to identify needs and fix our buildings? I always think this is just the first step in justifying adding on unneeded classrooms and/or a sports stadium.

Work incentive

I think the story on the front page of Southeast Missourian was wonderful about the Civilian Conservation Corps programs. The young men who participated were real heroes to strive to be better and make a living. How in the world are you going to get the new generation of young people to work? If you can sleep until the afternoon and party all night with government support, who would want to work?

Placing blame

I'M calling in response to many comments blaming the Republican Party for all the problems. It was FDR and his New Deal that helped to extend the Great Depression. It was World War II that ended the Great Depression. We're still paying for the failed policies of Lyndon B. Johnson and the Great Society. President Clinton and President Carter did not help things either. Under Carter we had double-digit inflation. Before we blame the Republican Party for everything that's wrong in America, Democrats need to look in the mirror and realize that most of the problems have not come from the Republican Party but from the Democratic Party. Quit blaming Republicans for everything. The Democrats are having their time now, but it will not last long. This administration will not be able to get us out of this economic recession. The American people, through their own initiative and hard work, will eventually prevail and get us out of this economic slide we're in.

Afghan troops

PRESIDENT Obama's increased commitment of troops to Afghanistan does not mean Afghanistan will become President Obama's Vietnam. The key to winning in Afghanistan, as was belatedly recognized in Iraq, is to make a concerted effort to train the Afghan security forces to defend their own government.

Economics lessons

YOU want your children to learn how to handle money. You've decided that $10 a week allowance is acceptable and affordable. In return, they will have some chores. You then give each child $20 a week and explain the rules: They must pay $7 up front for rent plus $3 for utilities, leaving them with the $10 you'd decided upon. The rest of the allowance is theirs to spend or to save for something they really want. If they go broke before the end of the week, they might earn a little extra by taking on more chores. Someday, after years of these economic studies, they might grow up to be responsible, successful adults.

Expressing concern

REGARDING the story "Police seeking motive for shooting of AmerenUE linemen": My best friend who is the mother of one of the men in the cherry pickers lives in Spokane, Wash. We would all like to send our prayers to the families of the wounded men. God bless and be strong.

FairTax means jobs

THE Democrats in Congress, along with President Obama, are spending a ridiculous amount of money hoping to stimulate the economy. It won't work. What will work is the FairTax, which would create jobs, bring companies and investment back into the U.S. and stimulate the economy.

Theatrical notice

A theatrical production is so much more than the acting. Theatre is a collaborative art form composed of many different elements. It is disheartening to read a review that completely ignores the other elements that make up a production. What about the set, lighting, costumes and sound? Imagine a play that had none of these elements. The actors work hard and certainly deserve praise, but let us not forget the other people who work hard to create the world in which the characters live.

Changing the tune

SOME hard-nosed comments continue to claim that a person should lose his house if he, through no fault of his own, lost his job and can't make the mortgage payments. Those making such comments would, if engulfed in a similar situation, be the first to change their tune.

Campaign pledge

IT'S refreshing that people are acting surprised that President Obama is doing exactly what he said he would do if elected president. Many think politicians will say one thing and do another. But not President Obama. He promised massive and much-needed change in America, and that is what he is proposing. God bless him.


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The speak out person that called there children rug-rats and was against the four day school week. It is parents with this type of attitude is the reason why some of our kids go without discipline and proper education and end up in jail down the road. Some parents have no reponsibilty at all and they want everything to center around them. Raising a child starts at home and apparently the parent that called this comment in is wanting some one else to raise his/her children.

-- Posted by swampeastmissouri on Wed, Mar 4, 2009, at 6:42 AM

Double blow – I’ve never read Rev. James Dobson and it’s been years since I’d listened to Paul Harvey. Two distinguished men who enjoyed successful careers. The loss of good, experienced advice from established moral leaders will always create a void, a void that others should be able to fill. As far as either representing some irreplaceable pillar of the Republican Party, it would be hard to imagine much impact. What will energize this country’s conservative base is the outrageous and irresponsible actions of the current administration and our reckless Congress.

School days – more incredible short sightedness from school administrators. What are parents to do while the teachers enjoy another paid day off?

Quantum leap – the actions of our current gov’ment render this opinion a day late and a trillion dollars short.

Hidden taxes – after all, he is the President, and he can tax anyone as much as he wants. The barn door is open.

Leading the GOP – ditto, we should be proud that an American citizen with strong family ties from our humble city can make the powerful shake in their boots. By demonizing Rush Limbaugh, they hope to smoke screen the awful results of their amateurish and repugnant actions since taking office. Give ‘em heck Rush. It’s time for more tea parties.

Placing blame – the gov’ment givith, and the gov’ment taketh way.

Changing the tune – unfortunately the incredible waste and fraud that is pulling these programs under affects us all – those that work to fund them and those who really need their benefits. It will take some incredibly wise leaders to avoid throwing the baby out with the bath water. Will they be brave enough to step forward, and will we be smart enough to elect them.

Campaign pledge – well, kinda, maybe, sorta, not exactly. Whatever.

-- Posted by blogbudsman on Wed, Mar 4, 2009, at 7:22 AM

Double blow: LOL! Paul Harvey, the voice of the conservatives?? Hmmm..Yeah, he was republican, but he kept himself in check.

School days: Kids don't need a four day school week. This will only allow them to be more promiscious and parents will be working and unable to watch them. Bad idea.

Quantum leap: A heratic.

Hidden taxes: Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah.

Leading the GOP: Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah.

District facilities: Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah.

Work incentive: Yep Great Story, and something that BHO plans to resurge. Perhaps such a plan will revitalize our work ethic.

Placing blame: And it was Lincoln's Liberals who started the IRS and Wealth redistribution.

Afghan troops: Isolationism, the only true way to cure our economy.

Economics lessons: ?

Expressing concern: Praise Jeebus!

FairTax means jobs: *sign* Again, where were all these Fair Tax Supporters when Huckabee was running?

Theatrical notice: All the world's a stage.

Changing the tune: Of course they would.

Campaign pledge: Praise Jeebus!

Well busy day today. Black Cherry Juice has seemed to do the trick and wife may be getting out of the hospital today. Soo...it's off to the races!

-- Posted by Megalomania on Wed, Mar 4, 2009, at 7:40 AM

I agree the four day school week is not what needs to happen but not because I do not want my kids at home. Many people are working and scraping by as it is and if they do this it will be an addittional expense for daycare or you will have kids on their own. Doesn't make a lot of sense.

Economic lessons

Why not just tax their allowance if making them pay rent and utilities out of it is showing responsibility then taxing it will as well after all isn't that what responsible adults do pay taxes. Whatever happened to teaching by example. Let them see their parent as responsible and not sitting around with their hand out.

Paul Harvey was great. Loved listening to his show and Willy was right he told it like it was.

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Wed, Mar 4, 2009, at 9:12 AM

...four day school week isn't feasible for everyone but

a five day week all year long may be an answer ...there

are schools in St.Louis that have year round school and

it seems to work fairly well ...

to be honest , i thought Paul Harvey was already dead..

-- Posted by ..Rick on Wed, Mar 4, 2009, at 9:23 AM

Double blow: I haven't listened to Paul Harvey in years. All things must pass.

Hidden taxes: You want to see hidden taxes? Just wait until all this expansion of money and credit by the progressives Bush and Obama filters its way down into the real economy.

Leading the GOP: Someone needs to. I'm not sure that Rush Limbaugh and other supporters of Bush's policies is the answer. They gave us Barack Obama and an extension of Bush's failed Wilsonian policies.

Work incentive: It sad that we have reached the point when someone works they are considered a hero or something beyond the normal.

Placing blame I agree that FDR's ignorant policies extended the Great Depression. But he merely carried on and extended the new deal policies of Herbert Hoover. WWII did not end the Great Depression, it was a combination of several things. A couple being government cut its expenditures by 2 thirds after the war and the shortages of goods and services due to the war were much needed. It was production that ended the Great Depression.

-- Posted by BCStoned on Wed, Mar 4, 2009, at 9:33 AM

I was a big fan of Paul Harvey, and I respect him more than most radio personalities; but let us be fair. He most certainly sold out. Paul Harvey's endorsement is one of the best endorsements in the market, and he was compensated as such for every supplement or mattress he advertised. [If anything, I respect him more for capitalizing on his name as much as he did.]

-- Posted by Young_Entrepreneurs on Wed, Mar 4, 2009, at 9:33 AM

i always thought the atomic bomb ended WW2...

-- Posted by ..Rick on Wed, Mar 4, 2009, at 9:34 AM

Good morning!

School days.....I'm a lil' mixed on this...if u can believe that! :)~ I could see where me & my children would enjoy a 4-day week, 3 more days to relax and have fun! But I worry about the curriculum, many r not happy with the way it is going now, how could this possibly help. craming the curriculum that some say is already failing.

Furthermore...swampeastmissouri...u obviously have never been a stay-at-home parent..or you r VERY patient, if so more power to you. BUT...children r nuts, crazy.....they do not have the ability to reason, it must b taught...stay at home for a few months with a couple of tots...let me know how u feel then.

Hidden taxes....my ars...it's always right their in black and white on ur statements...u just don't know what they are for! :)~

Leading the GOP....Rush Limbaugh...could it get any worse?

District facilities...c'mon...when I was in elementary school we had no A.C.; worn out textbooks, we had to share art supplies..c'mon..when Willy was n school he had to walk two miles through the snow and ice...barefoot, no doubt...suck it up! :)~

Work incentive.....it's called a paycheck! Don't b mad b/c someones job is more kosher than yours...change professions!

Placing blame....as I said before...there's plenty to go around!

Afghan troops.....I've heard all I can stand about the MIDDLE EAST....don't we have something for this????

Economics lessons...Yes...teach them at home! Start with ending the illusion of Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny...geez.....and you all wonder how we're taught something for nothing! :)~

FairTax...hmmmm!

Theatrical notice...I am sick of hearing about this as well, if u want to go...go, if not..don't go! If u go...enjoy yourself and quit worrying about everyone else...geez! Some people...can never b happy!

Can't pay ur bills....suck it up, take ur whippin' u dumbars...live within ur means...how did u afford that telephone/bill u called Speak Out on.....u ain't poor unless ur hungry! Right, Willy!

-- Posted by Turnip on Wed, Mar 4, 2009, at 9:48 AM

Rick

we have family in St Louis and their kids go year around for school the kids actually get just as many breaks as they do here they just aren't all in the summer and holidays. This would be a lot better than going 4 days a week. my daughter is in high school and even she did not like the idea. Then what about the kids with attention issues even an extra hour a day can cause more havoc with them.

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Wed, Mar 4, 2009, at 9:49 AM

Me'Lange

an option yes but personally I feel the school districts need to let the parents decide and the majority be heard.

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Wed, Mar 4, 2009, at 9:57 AM

......to be honest , i thought Paul Harvey was already dead..

-- Posted by *Rick*

Rick....u freakin' crack me up! :) I never listened to Paul Harvey that much...his voice freaked me out a lil'! :)~

School days: I thought the whole point was to reduce expenses such as staff & gas. How would going year round help that? I think kids need a break....they have the rest of their lives to work year round. I always find it helpful to do educational workbooks during the summer, helps keep them up to speed & prevents their brains from turning into mush..like mine does thru the summer! :)~

-- Posted by Turnip on Wed, Mar 4, 2009, at 9:58 AM

Turnip

The year around school would not cut expenses. They say it just keeps kids focused.

I do not see how the 4 day week will do anything except cut the bussing and food costs. I doubt they cut teachers salaries, janitors will still work the same amount of hours etc. They already cut food cost by not serving enough to fill the kids up and they could cut bussing expenses by stopping some of the pep busses to away games. Sure at times it would be nice to have longer weekends but then again I am afraid it would make it harder on the kids during the school week. We already have an hour and a half for homework each night add that and another hour a day at school and for 4 ays the kids will not be able to do anything except school.

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Wed, Mar 4, 2009, at 10:05 AM

MeLange, glad to see it's u, that threw me off a lil' bit yesterday...that imposter and all! :)~

I agree with you about our schools...they need to stick with academics, our children are at such a disadvantage when not properly educated!

I fear I may catch hell today...AGAIN...my crack about Santa and all...I think my humor escapes some!?!?

-- Posted by Turnip on Wed, Mar 4, 2009, at 10:08 AM

Cape cracks me up with the school facilities and wanting more taxes to do this or that.

we live in a town with 3000 people and we have great schools that do not constantly ask or more tax money. Our school taxes have not raised in over 8 years. If a small school can do t why cant a big one.

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Wed, Mar 4, 2009, at 10:08 AM

Rick: The War with Japan didn't need the dropping of the A-Bomb to end the war according to Generals Eisenhower and MacArthur and the Admiral of the Pacific Fleet. The decision to drop the bomb was made in Washington.

-- Posted by BCStoned on Wed, Mar 4, 2009, at 10:14 AM

OK.....Willy, sheesh...we heard you already! LOL

I can see I'm not the only one having trouble, I haven't been able to logout for two days?????

-- Posted by Turnip on Wed, Mar 4, 2009, at 10:45 AM

Turnip

Logging out wasn't my problem for two months I have not been able to log in without it taking 20 minutes

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Wed, Mar 4, 2009, at 10:51 AM

Sorry...fellow cat lovers...it was starting to mess with my sensibilities! :)~

-- Posted by Turnip on Wed, Mar 4, 2009, at 11:00 AM

Hiroshima...I was just starting to get interested in your alls discussion......what happened?

-- Posted by Turnip on Wed, Mar 4, 2009, at 11:13 AM

Me'Lange , you're doing good with the not smoking .

it takes a strong person to break the nicotine habit..

i truely believe it's the strongest drug made and should

be banned...

-- Posted by ..Rick on Wed, Mar 4, 2009, at 11:52 AM

Melange, the Wolf is into his 3rd week without those smokes. Yep it is getting much easier these days. My taste buds are coming back and now I can smell a smoker 20 feet away. Lets keep it up.

-- Posted by GREYWOLF on Wed, Mar 4, 2009, at 12:34 PM

that's good Wolf ...what you've done isn't easy , i

know 'cause i went thru it in Jan ....

-- Posted by ..Rick on Wed, Mar 4, 2009, at 1:00 PM

With regards to the education debates....

I think it is a matter of what we agree is the school's job in providing an education. Do you want the schools to simply advance them academically, or do you really want the education system to create functioning members of our future soceities.

I think that when you look at the big picture, art, music and yes, even sports adds a dimension of discipline and focus that cannot be taught with just academics (reading, writing, math...). These non-core subjects remind us that "of what value is it to make a prosperous living unless you know how to live"?

Just "food for thought"...

-- Posted by Theorist on Wed, Mar 4, 2009, at 1:08 PM

sports , music , art , etc.. are important parts of

education because they give some students the chance

for scholarship to further advance their education

at the college level ....

-- Posted by ..Rick on Wed, Mar 4, 2009, at 1:17 PM

Academic scholarships are available as well.

Art, music & sports are great. But if a school is having trouble with their students comprehending the curriculum then I say it's time to re-prioritize, on any/all levels.

Theorist..the things you spoke of: discipline, focus and non-core subjects, I would assume as patience, teamwork, self-worth, etc. should be established when the children enter into the school system. Schools should first and foremost educate our children...I'll make sure Jr. can tell the difference between Picasso & Monet! :)~

-- Posted by Turnip on Wed, Mar 4, 2009, at 1:47 PM

Mind u....my opinions r irrelevant b/c I reside in Jackson school district and we have decent academic records, various extra-curricular activities. I don't have a child n the schools yet...and I am now paying out the ars in PPTax to re-vamp it so what the heck do I know?

JUMEMY- FFA, FHA..whatever: Are you making fun of the club that always has the cute cows at the fair? The one that countless juvenile delinquents attend and I don't know....bale hay!

-- Posted by Turnip on Wed, Mar 4, 2009, at 2:19 PM

Theorist

Sports, clubs, art programs, music etc it is all fine and no doubt many kids enjoy it and it give them some structure but as proud as I would be if my kid got a scholorship for sports I would rather them get one because they can use their brain. When they are 30 have a spouse, 2.5 kids, a mortgage to make, bills to pay being able to throw a ball or run a race isn't what they need they need to have an education that gives them the skills to provide. I think the point being made was more focus needs to be on the academics and not the fun part of education.

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Wed, Mar 4, 2009, at 2:55 PM

semoangel70....i'd put that puppy away if I were you....Willy is after it....LOL! :)~

-- Posted by Turnip on Wed, Mar 4, 2009, at 2:58 PM

Time to get back to the basics of TEACHING kids...instead of entertaining them.

-- Posted by Me'Lange on Wed, Mar 4, 2009, 1:51 pm CDT

Are you suggesting that art, music et.al. do not teach students? Perhaps you didn't read my earlier post.

-- Posted by Theorist on Wed, Mar 4, 2009, at 3:00 PM

turnip

considering she has chewed up my shoes and dumped the trash already today I may let him take her! I thought kids were bad but a puppy is 10 times worse.

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Wed, Mar 4, 2009, at 3:04 PM

I am not a physical education instructor (nor do I play one on T.V.), but I would think they would find fault with your argument SEMOANGEL. Physical conditioning (sports) just might be the one thing that keeps that 30 year old able to do a days work. Learning to love exercise may definitely influence health and well being later on in life. Who says its entertaining, unless your just watching it on T.V., it teaches work ethics, discipline and reward.

-- Posted by Theorist on Wed, Mar 4, 2009, at 3:05 PM

Theorist

Yes it does BUT as I said they also hve to have the BRAIN to go along with it. If all that is fcused on is the sports then what happens when they are older, sure they have the strength and stamina but what about skills for other things, can they read, do math etc.

I am not against sports at all. I have 3 kids and they are all very involved in sports and they do learn from that but to me it is just as important that they take the basics of education just as serious. If a kid can show the dedication it takes to be an athlete then they can show the same dedication to picking up a book and learning Algebra.

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Wed, Mar 4, 2009, at 3:11 PM

semoangel70....Don't tell me that...."I thought kids were bad but a puppy is 10 times worse." We r getting ready to introduce a pup into our home, I have/had finally talked myself into it again...

-- Posted by Turnip on Wed, Mar 4, 2009, at 3:38 PM

I think the disagreement comes in why you term these programs as 'fluff' programs. What I would like you to see, is the value of these programs in instilling an education for the students. i.e. Band students learn to read music left to right, art students are learning design and spatial relationships etc.

It all goes towards the goal, of educating the students to become functioning members of soceity. (And, not all students are destined for college). Sometimes those sport programs are the incentive for the students to stick in school, and MSHAA has state regulated grade requirements for participation, so the focus is indeed academics.

-- Posted by Theorist on Wed, Mar 4, 2009, at 3:43 PM

As much as I dislike many things about our local School system I think academics should be priority and there is also much to be said about "school spirit" and that always includes sports and clubs. The Wolf would like to see a mandatory 4 years history to include economics and politics, 4 years math, 4 years english, 4 years sciences to include geography, 4 years physical ed and whatever elective courses the student wants such as industrial arts, art , music etc. Is that too much to expect

-- Posted by GREYWOLF on Wed, Mar 4, 2009, at 3:43 PM

turnip

as hectic as a puppy is it is so worth it just remember they chew everythig even electrical cords so baby proof the house again!

Theorist

MHSSA standards are a joke and schools can get around them if they try. Our nephew was failing Algebra and History and yet played basketball because they set him up with tutoring after school one day a week. On this the parents are toblame for allowing him to play but the school should have benched him as well. The school wants a sport stadium which would be fine if there was no other academic needs for the students but I am sure new text books, computers, qualified teachers etc could be used more than a stadium.

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Wed, Mar 4, 2009, at 3:52 PM

Theorist

Me'Lange is right. I was in band all through junior high and high school as well as hoir. I played basketball, ran track, softball and cheerleading. None of that helps me in every day life now except for I know the sport to be able to coach my kids. I couldn't tell you what a C was on a sheet of music now if my life depended on it. As fun as sports and music is it is not something you will NEED in your adult life.

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Wed, Mar 4, 2009, at 4:06 PM

Well Melange...

To that I say, you were not the student I thought you were....you missed the point, or are missing it now! And if you cannot see the benefits you have from your training in band, you are not looking. So...you don't read music....do you read? left to right...left to right.... Do you understand division? Do you enjoy life?

-- Posted by Theorist on Wed, Mar 4, 2009, at 4:07 PM

ya'l are debating whether or not "elective courses" are an important part of the academic process. They are indeed, but they are not a priority! I go back to my earlier post and what should be mandatory classes all others would be elective. My favorite and one I can honestly say I still use today was "bachelor living"

-- Posted by GREYWOLF on Wed, Mar 4, 2009, at 4:20 PM

Theorist...I think you may b missing the point as well, actually I think you totally get the point and just like to debate...:)~.

When u have a public school system such as Capes, that is apparently not teaching their children properly, it should then become a either/or situation. Perhaps then the district can find some more constructive ways to teach these students vs. more ways to raise funds for a recreational adventure. I think we all will agree that choir/band may make for a more well-rounded individual it is not the basis for a quality education.

-- Posted by Turnip on Wed, Mar 4, 2009, at 4:23 PM

Not that it makes much difference, but I agree with Theorist on this one. I too was in band and ran track; hate team sports imagine that. No, I don't "use" anything learned, but I wouldn't trade it for anything. This did not interfere with learning the core subjects quite well, went on to college and as a result made a fairly good living. Not everything can be quantified as to how much we use it now or the cost.

Just a thought.

-- Posted by RA on Wed, Mar 4, 2009, at 4:24 PM

Wolf...r u referring to Home Economics????

-- Posted by Turnip on Wed, Mar 4, 2009, at 4:25 PM

TripleS

I would not trade my time in band choir or sports for anything either, it was all prt of high school for me BUT if I was failing in academics then that is where my priorities should be.

Schools having the activities is not the issue the issue is they are focusing on sports when they are failing in academics. Focus on academics and then when it is up move onto the fun stuff.

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Wed, Mar 4, 2009, at 4:31 PM

Since I'm uneducated I probably should not voice an opinion on education, but here goes nothing. High school sports are healthy for a community. It brings a community together. Especially smaller communities.

-- Posted by BCStoned on Wed, Mar 4, 2009, at 4:33 PM

Turnip, No I am not refering to "home economics". The course was called "bachelor living" however it was taught by the home economics teacher. I found this course to be of great help then and indeed today.

-- Posted by GREYWOLF on Wed, Mar 4, 2009, at 4:36 PM

All those children that can't read, write, or do math have a place in the workforce as long as they are mothered.

-- Posted by BCStoned on Wed, Mar 4, 2009, at 4:39 PM

Hilleco

Sorry but live in a small community and sports do not draw the community together unless they are having a winning season. We have more spectators at summer leagues that the parents pay for than the actual school sports.

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Wed, Mar 4, 2009, at 4:40 PM

Just me, settle down son, we all know Jackson folks are ate up with their Football. Sometimes I wonder if

their priorities are a bit off because of it. Besides, football only exist for kids that can't play socccer!

-- Posted by GREYWOLF on Wed, Mar 4, 2009, at 4:42 PM

Just Me

My son would argue with you he loves soccer!

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Wed, Mar 4, 2009, at 5:00 PM

......All those children that can't read, write, or do math have a place in the workforce as long as they are mothered.

-- Posted by Hilleco on Wed, Mar 4, 2009, 3:39 pm CDT

Come again....Hilleco...I don't understand...as long as they are mothered???

-- Posted by Turnip on Wed, Mar 4, 2009, at 5:06 PM

Turnip: What I mean by mothered is that children who lack skills in those areas are often times unable to do the work required. There is the cost of providing a workplace mother for the employee. In other words, someone to stand over him and to guide him.

In classrooms where attention is not required/demanded students often drift off into their own little world. In the workplace this is unacceptable and often hazardous. Employers are finding this to the case more and more each year among new hires.

We could always pack them off to be politicians but that field is overcrowded now.

-- Posted by BCStoned on Wed, Mar 4, 2009, at 5:18 PM

Hilleco,

The last few groups of approved applicants I reviewed for hiring would not have even been considered a few years prior. I wound up hiring not the "best", but the ones in the highest reaches of mediocrity available at the time.

-- Posted by RA on Wed, Mar 4, 2009, at 5:24 PM

...we get to pay for 9,000,000 homes that were bought

with not enough money ...now that's change!!

-- Posted by ..Rick on Wed, Mar 4, 2009, at 6:43 PM

Willy

Obama annouced today that he wants to save 9 million

homes that have "over extented themselves" ...

-- Posted by ..Rick on Wed, Mar 4, 2009, at 7:14 PM

Willy....

i don't see how saving 9 mill homes is gonna help the

economy ...it's the work of ferkin' socialist i tell ya..

if you want to try dog , boil a pup for the best meat...

-- Posted by ..Rick on Wed, Mar 4, 2009, at 7:46 PM

Rick: China gave Wallstreet some hope today with its improving economy. China's, which some on Wallstreet called the center of capitalism, GDP growth shot upward to 8 percent. The markets believe that China offers some hope. China is the third largest economy behind the US and Japan.

Not to rain on their parade, but one day's trading doesn't make a market.

-- Posted by BCStoned on Wed, Mar 4, 2009, at 8:01 PM

Rick.....boil a pup for the best meat....that's disgusting...now ur just being gross...gosh..yuck!

"When I was a kid I saved my money and bought a giant box of Crayola Crayons."

-- Posted by Willy Makit on Wed, Mar 4, 2009, 5:59 pm CDT

They had crayola crayons then??? Hmmm! :)~

Willy, I don't understand why u r STILL harping about the same thing...bad mortgages..it's a done deal, bud! Don't worry there's limitations, remember, Obama said it is not designed to help people who just made bad decisions.

Hilleco...thanks for clearing that up for me...one more thing, was it you that posted sometime last week that school should not be mandatory?

-- Posted by Turnip on Wed, Mar 4, 2009, at 8:05 PM

"Obama said it is not designed to help people who just made bad decisions."

Hope his designers didn't go to the Ponzi school of economics :-)~

-- Posted by fxpwt on Wed, Mar 4, 2009, at 8:12 PM

Turnip: Probably was. I don't believe in mandatory attendance.

-- Posted by BCStoned on Wed, Mar 4, 2009, at 8:17 PM

Relax, fxpt...I was just givin' Willy crap! :)~

Now Hilleco....u just posted about the employees being stupid, why wouldn't u support mandatory attendance? Even the ones that hate to b there may pick up something. Just a thought!

-- Posted by Turnip on Wed, Mar 4, 2009, at 8:22 PM

Hilleco

what the markets did today didn't surprise me because

they're so turbulant all of the time ...i almost hate

to think we depend on the Orient to improve our own

economy ..

-- Posted by ..Rick on Wed, Mar 4, 2009, at 8:27 PM

Turnip

..native american people treat dog as a feast , i believe

the Pawnee were famous for their pup stew ...

have u ever tried some ?

if it's boiled right , it's tender and sweet...

-- Posted by ..Rick on Wed, Mar 4, 2009, at 8:34 PM

Willy

...i'll have to try BBQ...hmmm...maybe the smoker too..

-- Posted by ..Rick on Wed, Mar 4, 2009, at 8:39 PM

Turnip: The forced children often disrupt classes that prevent the children that want to learn from receiving a quality education.

I dropped out of school and was a worthless employee. I had to start my on business in order to be employed.

Another suggestion for schools; bar all doors to the parasites in Washington. They just want to treat the children like lab rats.

-- Posted by BCStoned on Wed, Mar 4, 2009, at 8:45 PM

hmmm, Willy - so when you were sitting on the 'throne' the next day - you were outputting cockadoodle-doo?

-- Posted by fxpwt on Wed, Mar 4, 2009, at 8:50 PM

Rick: China has enough reserves to buy up most of the states in the Midwest. The US is begging them for help.

-- Posted by BCStoned on Wed, Mar 4, 2009, at 8:50 PM

Aww shucks, no excitement. About as exciting as American Idol. *yawn*

-- Posted by Megalomania on Wed, Mar 4, 2009, at 8:56 PM

Re: school days

So, the caller wants somebody else to deal with the problems she was at least 50% responsible for. Nice.

Re: Quantum leap

So, the caller is apparently in favor of somebody else paying for all this stuff.

Re: Hidden taxes

So, the caller thinks Obama wants everybody else to pay for all his stuff.

Re: Campaign pledge

Much like wedding vows - it seems we've committed to change - for better or worse.

-- Posted by fxpwt on Wed, Mar 4, 2009, at 9:07 PM

native american people treat dog as a feast.....Rick, r ur eyes brown..cuz' I think u r full of shat, I know Willy is! :)~

"The forced children often disrupt classes that prevent the children that want to learn from receiving a quality education. "

That is absolutely right. I was one of them if you can believe that.

-- Posted by Willy Makit on Wed, Mar 4, 2009, 7:53 pm CDT

Willy, u were the forced or prevented student??

I'm a lil' confused about the whole China thing...they r one of the richest, they r Communist, they have the most exports (of course...we buy all their shat, hell we probably made them rich), they r very unpredictable in regards to nuclear war, they have the largest army plus they have human right issues & now we are asking them for money? How am I doing so far.....

-- Posted by Turnip on Wed, Mar 4, 2009, at 9:47 PM


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