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Speak out 2/18/09

Thursday, February 19, 2009

Business as usual

HOW quickly we've learned President Obama's own words from his inauguration mean nothing. "Those of us who manage the public dollars will be held to account to spend wisely, reform bad habits and do our business in the light of day, because only then can we restore the vital trust between a people and our government." By throwing borrowed dollars that our children will have to pay back at liberal pet projects without a careful examination of the bill, Obama confirms his words were lies. Using every opportunity to berate Republicans, he has rendered his promise of a post-partisan presidency a lie. It's business as usual for Democrats, and Obama's opportunity to "restore the vital trust" was wasted in just a few days.

Salary caps

THE CEO bonus cap may not have much effect on the sober sages who make up the Southeast Missourian editorial board, but when my spouse knew that Sen. Claire McCaskill was a driving force behind the idea of limiting CEO bonuses for failing or failed companies and that it had come to fruition, she screamed, in reference to McCaskill, "You go, girl!"

Computer records

PRESIDENT Obama's bailout drops E-Verify because a simple Social Security number-name match is "prone to error" but says that computerizing complex medical records of 306 million U.S. residents will make them "safer." Say what?

Obama's appointees

A Speak Out contributor lamented the fact that he and his wife work and pay taxes only to see those in power not do the same. He closed his comments by saying, "President Obama voices great aspirations but may find it impossible to achieve those aspirations because of the corruption within our government." Obama wasn't saddled with these folks, so to say such people will be a stumbling block for Obama's success was inaccurate. My take on the situation: Obama will find it impossible to achieve those aspirations as long as he puts into government positions people who are corrupt. And so far, he's not doing very well.

Manipulate markets

IF anyone still harbors the illusion that we have any semblance of a free market, read the article on the front page of Monday's paper about gas prices and the Opinion page article concerning why it's a bad idea to cap executive pay. When a cartel is allowed to set gas prices or an executive who has run his company into the ground gets a huge bonus, can there be any doubt that markets are manipulated to favor those in power?

Bank euphemism

I agree with an ABC News correspondent who said his favorite euphemism for the possible coming of the U.S. banking system's nationalization (a scary word to many, and one that conjures up thoughts of socialism) is — get this — "pre-privatization."

Just wait

YOUR pejorative editorial point that "too much of private enterprise is sinking into the maw of government" leads me to think you had better prepare yourself for what's to come. In essence, you ain't seen nothing yet. As evidence, Republicans are kicking around the idea that our broken capitalist system needs such serious repair that the next step may have to be nationalization of virtually the entire U.S. banking system.

Made where?

I drive a Toyota Truck that was built in San Antonio by American workers. I could not be happier with it. If you look at the so-called American car companies with unions, most of them are built in Mexico or Canada. You should look at the window sticker before you buy to make sure where it was built.

Hospital costs

RECENTLY while in the emergency room I was told by a nurse my problem and pain were due to needing to use the bathroom. This was after a blood test, a three-minute talk with a doctor, three X-rays and five hours in the emergency room bed. I believe due to rights of privacy the doctor on my case should have been the one telling me of my problem. I was then told the hospital would keep me all night for observation and further testing if I wanted. Why would you admit someone if all you believe is wrong with them is they need to go to the bathroom? No wonder insurance costs are rising and why our emergency-room bills are through the roof.

No budget billing

I'M a senior citizen and live in Jackson. I signed up for budget billing for my electricity. Because I live in Senior Gardens II in an apartment, I'm not allowed to sign up for budget billing. That's not right. When we're on a fixed income, we're not going to be moving around like a lot of other people, and we pay our bills.

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No budget billing...

they get your money either way ...

-- Posted by ..Rick on Thu, Feb 19, 2009, at 8:33 AM


Good for you, Congrats!

-- Posted by Theorist on Thu, Feb 19, 2009, at 9:39 AM


congrats ! ...hang in there , u can do it..

..um , got a light ?? ()___)_________}}

-- Posted by ..Rick on Thu, Feb 19, 2009, at 9:40 AM

Mel, funny you mentioned quiting. I picked up the habit AGAIN back in August last year after many years of not smoking. I quit again last Sunday. Lets do this together and make it stick.

-- Posted by GREYWOLF on Thu, Feb 19, 2009, at 9:58 AM

Caps/Underline Queen...22+ hours, you go! But, look, don't keep track of the time, because it makes you think about how long you have gone w/out...uh, in this case, cigarettes. I quit "cold" on New Years Eve about 30 years ago. I had 4 cigs in my mouth getting every last puff I could until the clock struck 12, and then I gave away my lighter, and put 'em out. I never gave cigs another thought after that. So, if you are going to do it, then just #$%@& DO IT!

-- Posted by Hawker on Thu, Feb 19, 2009, at 10:59 AM

Good morning, all! :)

Lots of Luck, MeLange & Greywolf.

Not that I want to relive yesterday by no means, but....Willy....u ran out b4 answering my question last night? How did I do on ur lil' assessment???

-- Posted by Turnip on Thu, Feb 19, 2009, at 11:15 AM

MeL...I did the same thing, it some how made me feel better that if I did chose to have one they were right there. Another great tip..if u chose to light up try one of those...no matter how long it's been...the staleness made me put them right back down....YUCK!

-- Posted by Turnip on Thu, Feb 19, 2009, at 11:18 AM

Me'l & Greywolf -Good luck , when I quit I used the patch , gum , & was smoking all at the same time, I can sure relate to it being the hardest thing to put down for me anyway !

-- Posted by rockman54 on Thu, Feb 19, 2009, at 11:50 AM


i've heard the patch can cause vivid dreams...did you

experience this when using the patch ?

-- Posted by ..Rick on Thu, Feb 19, 2009, at 11:55 AM

Rick...I realize u weren't addressing me, but I used the patch...and yes, very vivid dreams...it also made my arm ache & I experienced heart palpitations. I always heard u shouldn't use them (patches, gum, lozenges) together esp. while smoking.

-- Posted by Turnip on Thu, Feb 19, 2009, at 12:18 PM


when i quit , i had to go cold turkey 'cause i was

afraid of the patch..i already have goofy dreams without

any help ..never heard of the heart racing

deal tho , it can't be a good thing ...

-- Posted by ..Rick on Thu, Feb 19, 2009, at 12:24 PM

Isn't it weird how everyone has to do things differently...I guess it's just about finding what works for you...all this talk about the "s" word is probably not helping our fellow posters!

Rick, I don't presume to know ur situation, but there are several medications (Rx/OTC) that can also affect your dreams???

-- Posted by Turnip on Thu, Feb 19, 2009, at 12:29 PM


yes , i'm sure it's the meds i'm on that makes my dreams

so wacky ...they wake me up sometimes ...

but i don't smoke !!!!

-- Posted by ..Rick on Thu, Feb 19, 2009, at 12:32 PM

The Wolf appreciates all the encouragement. I am using cinnamon sticks and big red gum. It seems to be working well. I don't want to replace the nicotine with the nicotine gum and certainly do not want to use a patch. The cinnamon sticks work well to keep my fingers and hands busy.

-- Posted by GREYWOLF on Thu, Feb 19, 2009, at 12:42 PM

I would like to throw something out there...all of this hoop-la over President Obama being the first African-American President....now his mother was European-American, his father was from Kenya, a Luo from Nyang’oma Kogelo, Nyanza Province, Kenya to b exact, doesn't that merely make him bi-racial. Wouldn't he technically b the 1st Bi-racial President??? Just a thought!

-- Posted by Turnip on Thu, Feb 19, 2009, at 12:43 PM

Hey Willy, next time read the directions!..lol

Of course what real man reads directions?

-- Posted by GREYWOLF on Thu, Feb 19, 2009, at 1:05 PM


I know you are a proponent of free-market, free trade, and against government coercion.

If you follow your thoughts through, you would find us back in a feudal system of medieval soceity. Where freedom and advancement are concepts only, and opportunity a philosophical phenomena.

-- Posted by Theorist on Thu, Feb 19, 2009, at 1:30 PM

Willy Makit....r u ignoring me??? I'm starting to get that vibe from u! Perhaps u just like to hear me beg.....??? :)~

-- Posted by Turnip on Thu, Feb 19, 2009, at 1:54 PM

...isn't Japan's economy in a worse way then ours ?

-- Posted by ..Rick on Thu, Feb 19, 2009, at 2:45 PM

Government interference is feudal, or haven't you noticed?

-- Posted by Hilleco on Thu, Feb 19, 2009, 12:57 pm CDT

No, government 'interference' keeps us from returning to a feudal soceity, with the nobility(born) and serfs, and NO chance for hope.

-- Posted by Theorist on Thu, Feb 19, 2009, at 2:53 PM

I'm thinking you must have "blue" blood, Hilleco. For surely nobody would wish that system unless they thought they would be one on the top!

-- Posted by Theorist on Thu, Feb 19, 2009, at 2:57 PM

Hong Kong, CHINA....

-- Posted by Turnip on Thu, Feb 19, 2009, at 3:29 PM

Sarah Palin is the latest public official found owing back taxes. Interesting.

-- Posted by grisgris on Thu, Feb 19, 2009, at 3:56 PM

Hilleco said " My ancestors lived on this continent long before this government was established. Our start was in England more than 300 years ago but our blood runs red and relishes freedom".

Made me think of a few buddies and all the veterans of this great Nation who fought and died so that all of us would be free. As a veteran and as my years pass I continue to see liberties and freedom getting stomped on by my Government. It sickens me! Thanks for a great post Hilleco and how very right you are.

-- Posted by GREYWOLF on Thu, Feb 19, 2009, at 4:25 PM

Megalomania....r u out there? Well just in case u r...u r so full of shat..1st of all...if ur gonna b hateful then at least own it. U posted b4 it mentioned....BS...ur post would not have shown on the updated article...please! Now...realize I am not ur enemy...just calling 'um like I see 'um! :)~

-- Posted by Turnip on Thu, Feb 19, 2009, at 4:29 PM

Hilleco....Forgive me if I am repeating myself..but what would b ur solution to our economy troubles?

BTW, I was merely clarifying that it WAS China.

-- Posted by Turnip on Thu, Feb 19, 2009, at 5:04 PM

BBQ goat is baaaaad....

-- Posted by ..Rick on Thu, Feb 19, 2009, at 6:45 PM

I'm ready for some good news that doesn't divide. Here's a display of sportsmanship that deserves applause!


-- Posted by KingsKid on Thu, Feb 19, 2009, at 7:17 PM

peppermint schnapps and goat meat , yum yum ...

-- Posted by ..Rick on Thu, Feb 19, 2009, at 7:44 PM

Re: No budget billing


/* Scroll on down for the Cliff notes */


From http://www.jacksonmo.org/GovernmentAndAd...


Sec. 41-40. Generally.

(a) A budget billing plan is available, upon written request to the city clerk, to eligible single-family residential electrical customers whose projected monthly bill is five hundred dollars ($500.00) or less, for whom continuous service is anticipated, and where there exists twelve (12) months of billing history at the customer's current residence.

(b) Eligible customers must agree in writing to the provisions of this option. Any customer who has received more than three (3) delinquent notices or whose service has been terminated within the preceding twelve (12) months shall not be eligible for the billing plan. The purpose of the budget billing plan is to equalize, to the extent practical, the monthly amounts to be paid by a customer during the fiscal year.

(c) The city clerk shall keep on file and have available the specifics of the budget billing plan as adopted by the board of aldermen, which such plan and information pursuant thereto shall be available for distribution to the public upon request.

(Ord. No. 06-23, § 1, 3-6-06)

Sec. 41-41. Billing procedures.

(a) A customer's monthly bill will be computed by dividing the total previous twelve (12) monthly billing by twelve (12) to which a budget adjustment percentage will be added to prevent the customer from owing more than in a typical month at the end of the fiscal billing cycle.

(b) In the event customer owes city at the end of the eleventh month of the billing cycle, customer may either pay the balance upon terminating the budget billing plan or have the amount owed appear on the customer's next monthly bill, which such amount would be due and payable with the twelfth month billing.

(c) In the event city owes customer at the end of the eleventh month of the billing cycle, the amount owed to a customer by the city will be credited to the customer's account at the end of the fiscal billing cycle and will be shown as a credit on the twelfth month's billing.

(Ord. No. 06-23, § 1, 3-6-06)

Sec. 41-42. Termination and settlement.

Billing under the budget billing plan may be terminated by either city or customer at any time by giving reasonable written notice to the other party and shall be automatically terminated due to any of the following reasons:

(1) Discontinuance of service for any lawful reason;

(2) Customer incurs three (3) or more delinquent notices in a twelve-month period; or

(3) The customer's level billing amount equals or exceeds seven hundred fifty dollars ($750.00) per month.

(Ord. No. 06-23, § 1, 3-6-06)


/* End of cut and paste */


OK, to cut through the fluff

1) Projected monthly bill less than $500?

2) 12 months of billing history at the current residence?

3) Been delinquent 3 or fewer times in the last year?

If 'yes' to all of the above, then suppose the catch lies somewhere in "the specifics of the budget billing plan as adopted by the board of aldermen, which such plan and information pursuant thereto shall be available for distribution to the public upon request"

which I could not find online.


One suggestion is to do things the old-fashioned way - budget-bill yourself - instead of crying 'not fair', and expecting or demanding that somebody else do it. Somebody needs to do something about all these somebodies who need to do something!

With the milder months coming up, March / April would be a great time to start.

1) Total / sum / add up the prior 12 months' bills.

2) Divide by 12 - this is your average monthly bill.

3) Optional - add a 'fudge factor' to account for seasonal extremes, rate increases, etc. Suggest 5-10%.

4) This average monthly billing cost plus any fudge factor, if added, is the amount to allocate / set aside each month towards the utility bill.

With the milder months coming up, the actual bill should be less than the allocated amount. Stash the excess somewhere - checking accounts work out fine, if you can be honest with yourself, as do coffee cans. When the summer months come along, the actual bill will be greater than the allocated amount. Draw from the excess fund as needed to make up the difference between the actual bill and the allocated amount.

Starting utility-sponsored budget billing during the summer and winter months generally means that the utility is essentially providing short-term loans to the consumer. Starting the utility-sponsored budget billing during the spring and fall months means that the consumer will be providing short-term loans to the utility.

Do this yourself, and you have the opportunity to collect interest on any 'loans' made to yourself, as well as have one less degree of difficulty in dealing with the big, bad, evil utility company.

Here endeth the lesson. :-)~

-- Posted by fxpwt on Thu, Feb 19, 2009, at 8:11 PM

Salary caps

While we're at it cap ANYONE in the sporting world. Because they're just over paid, hopped up, steriod users. Also hit the Hollywierd crowd. Love to see Clooney and Robbins take a manditory salary reduction so everyone is equal.

Equally lame, but equal non-the-less.

-- Posted by fajar on Thu, Feb 19, 2009, at 9:07 PM

I was neutral and almost sympathetic until I read the phrase, "That's not right".

Perhaps reading too much into it - but getting really tired of hearing/reading about the "people that can't" demanding help and other entitlements in order to be put on equal footing with the "people that can". Essentially, tired of rewarding ignorance and stupidity.

Abe Lincoln reportedly got pretty smart by candlelight (no electric) - perhaps a key educational tool is being overlooked. That, and my observation that pain and discomfort are powerful motivators.

-- Posted by fxpwt on Thu, Feb 19, 2009, at 9:15 PM

salary caps

if the government is bailing out a company the CEO should probably be capped until the money is repaid. Lee Iaccoco paid himself $1 a year until the Chrysler bailout was repaid back in the 80's. it amazes me that the current flock of CEO's would not have instituted it upon themselves. however everyone is free to make as much as they legally can.

-- Posted by shortwhitebaldguy on Thu, Feb 19, 2009, at 9:40 PM

i think BHO has a lot of balls asking for $75 billion

more dollars to bail out the home mortgage losers ..

somebody buys a house or some land that they can't afford ,

i really don't see how that's my problem ....

where do/does the bail out end ?

-- Posted by ..Rick on Thu, Feb 19, 2009, at 10:26 PM


"Every one equal" phrase is coming from the trend of those CEOs who make too much, running a company, making the budgeting decisions, and being the person in charge. That is unbelievable in this day and age where someone who makes a lot of money in one sector(Sports and *snicker* acting), but if another makes cash running a business...then they're wrong.

So limit everyone. Make everyone equally poor. If success is stifled and our misery is the same, then the 13 Stripes and 50 Stars on a sea of blue will be complimented with a Hammer and Sickle.

-- Posted by fajar on Thu, Feb 19, 2009, at 11:31 PM

Here's something I plucked from Heritage Foundation this week.

"There has been a renewed debate in this country over the effectiveness of the New Deal, but there is one thing that the vast majority of economists all agree on: the protectionist Smoot-Haley Tariff Act of 1930 played a significant role in worsening the Great Depression. Smoot-Hawley cut the amount of American imports in half and dramatically shrunk exports. Unemployment grew from 3.2% in 1929 to 8.7% in 1930 and peaked at 24.9% in 1933. While the "Buy America" provisions in the economic stimulus bill are not as pernicious as Smoot-Hawley, they come at a perilous time for world trade and the world economy."

FDRObama may be the change we need. I have been sick and tired of going to work for the last 20 years. Time off would be a change.

-- Posted by fajar on Fri, Feb 20, 2009, at 12:00 AM

Veg Root, you "rear" your children not raise them. You raise a veg root or your husband's/boyfriend/partner.....oh, never mind.

You get the idea.

Long day, going to hit the rack.

-- Posted by cycle_ride on Fri, Feb 20, 2009, at 12:48 AM

Goodnite.....meathead! :)~

-- Posted by Turnip on Fri, Feb 20, 2009, at 1:26 AM

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