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Speak Out 1/30/09

Friday, January 30, 2009
Money supply

MY understanding is that the U.S. has no money. We're borrowing money from China. Where are they going to get the trillions of dollars the Obama administration is going to use for this stimulus plan?

Pay it back

WE hear all of the reports of the CEOs getting billions in bonuses. Those people don't care about the talk. We need to make them pay the money back.

Getting it right

DAVID Limbaugh may be the one drinking Kool-Aid. He blames everything on President Obama. President Bush had it for eight years, and things are in a mess. Obama will have one heck of a job. We hope he can get it straightened out.

Jackson fireworks

I agree with Jackson on spending money for the fireworks. This one year we're going to need one heck of an explosion. The Christmas decorations were adequate. Maybe when Jackson's tax base gets even larger it might want to spring for some new decorations. I noticed that Mount Vernon, Ill., had some lovely Christmas decorations this year.

Card tampering

MY friend asked if I had sent a Christmas card. I said, "Yes, why?" He said he only got the front of the envelope with no card and no return address, which was torn off. He recognized my writing. The same thing happened to another friend, except the front of the envelope was there but there was no card and no back. Something's wrong somewhere.

Skate park

I'M a concerned citizen who cannot believe Cape Girardeau can spend $1.5 million on a golf course and other projects but can't build the children a decent skate park.

Reason to tip

REGARDING tipping the server who brings food to your car: Not many people tip them, but considering how cold it's been lately, I certainly tip them. I think people should for that reason.

Ending, or beginning?

A recent comment said, in regard to the Bush administration, that the eight-year nightmare has ended. The nightmare has just begun. I hope this nation can survive four to eight years of President Obama and his left-wing policies.

Respecting life

LAST THURSDAY was the 36th anniversary of the Roe v. Wade decision that made abortion legal in the United States. Thousands of people travel to Washington, D.C., each year and march up Constitution Avenue to the Supreme Court building to protest that ruling. But the news media ignores it. There was not one article in the paper or on TV about the march. But it was reported that our taxpayer money will now pay for abortions in other countries. It is so sad that our country does not respect life.

He did his job

I grow so tired of hearing people saying bad things about George Bush. He did not do as bad a job in office as people claim. People look for a scapegoat to blame. All of us have made mistakes. Don't blame George Bush for the bad economy. He did his job.

Nothing wrong

THERE'S no problem with the economy. One out of 10 homeowners in this country is having mortgage problems. That's just the base getting larger. There are more resources being used, and the low-end of the ladder is expanding. There's nothing wrong with the economy at all.

Sports lessons

I would like to congratulate the high school basketball team and its leaders in Cape Girardeau. Our family has always been sports-minded. We know how important it is to have a well-rounded program. The team's help in the community is teaching players that their help is for the people they're doing the good deeds for. Congratulations.


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Money supply – Bingo! Yep, we’re going to borrow it. Don’t worry, the next couple three generations can pay it back. Maybe.

Pay it back – that’s truly funny. You know what the complaint is now? New York is going broke because the rich folks aren’t getting bonuses, so their income tax collections are going to be short by half. Watch which you wish for, you just might get it.

Jackson fireworks – let’s have fireworks, people look forward to them. Please don’t take away our simple pleasures.

Ending, or beginning – it’s the Congress, stupid.

He did his job – and very well, indeed. Thank you Mr. Bush. Mr. Obama, we'll follow you if you lead us well.

Nothing wrong – if there’s nothing wrong now, the gov’ment will ‘change’ that.

Sports lessons – and it’s not just the players on the teams. It’s the parents and friends and neighbors that support the teams and the programs. It takes a village.

-- Posted by blogbudsman on Fri, Jan 30, 2009, at 7:46 AM

Money supply: Hmmm....the same place they got the money for the $750 Billion shirt and tie bailout?

Pay it back: Frankly, I'd be more pleased to see a good ole fashioned hangin'.

Getting it right: Some say, "He has a face like Boris Karloff." And some say, "He likes to walk around town with a kool-aid mustasche." I wonder if he likes tropical punch...or cherry?

Jackson fireworks: Mt. Pile?

Card tampering: I had the same thing happen to cards I sent and received. Can we all say, "Investigation by the Post Master?"

Skate park: Skate Park? They'll put their eye out!

Reason to tip: Good, you go for it then!

Ending, or beginning?: Oh please spare me your dramatical whinging.

Respecting life: It is sad, sad the GWB and the Republicons didn't take care of this from 2000-2006. Hmm...why not? They had all the power then.

He did his job: Bad job? As in his 33% approval rating when he left office? Yeah mate, sorry to tell ya...that's not exactly michelin star material.

Nothing wrong: LOL! WOW! I've haven't seen anyone put themselves "out there" like that since crazy Minnesota republican congress woman, Michele Bachmann. Well, of course you have Ann Coulter, but utter non-sense is what she is paid to say.

But...I can't forget Palin's unforgetable follies regarding her comments about what she reads, and the Grammy Winning statement about all her Russian/Alaskan Airspace foreign policy experience. Pure Entertainment! Perhaps Pudgebaugh needs to start having special guests like these on his show? It would be a laugh a minute!

Sports lessons: How I envision this is purely comical.

Watch out folks! My arrogance is in rare form today!

-- Posted by Megalomania on Fri, Jan 30, 2009, at 10:01 AM

Marble Hill Residents:

In case you might have missed the story posted on the main page of the Missourian today...

"Friday, January 30, 2009

MARBLE HILL, Mo. - Residents of Ward 2 are under a boil water order until further notice. Marble Hill city collector Carla Watt said a mainline break on High Street occurred at 4 p.m. Thursday. City maintenance crews shut down the system later in the evening."

-- Posted by mobushwhacker on Fri, Jan 30, 2009, at 10:48 AM

Money supply

The same place we always do we will go even deeper in debt. Even though I prefer tax cuts as opposed to the “stimulus plan”, anything we do will result in more borrowing I am afraid. Not an expert like some on here.

Pay it back

They should not have gotten it in the first place and trying to track it all down will be no more successful than the flawed “plan” to disburse it. Maybe the government has learned a lesson though at our expense; naw.

Getting it right

Why do you people keep reading David Limbaugh and even worse, paying attention to what he says?

Skate park

So go to the meetings and tell someone who can do something about it.

Reason to tip

I always tip the server who brings food to my car, it is well worth it and I don’t care if the smile, say hi, or just throw it through the window, keeps me from having to get out.

Ending, or beginning?

Too much blame on Bush and too high of expectations on Obama though I do hope I am proven wrong.

Respecting life

Actually I think it is about half and half and is too complicated for me though I am opposed to abortion personally.

He did his job

While I supported George Bush, like many I was disappointed in many of his policies. Only history can tell how good or bad his administration was.

Nothing wrong

Either you are being sarcastic or you are delusional.

-- Posted by TripleS on Fri, Jan 30, 2009, at 10:55 AM

It appears there was more than one.

I am always suspicious when a "new" persona comes on and announces that they are "new to the forum". That seems to almost be a dead giveaway that they are retreads who left for one reason or another.

I have lost track of who use to be who and am not good at identifying them.

-- Posted by Red_Rhino on Fri, Jan 30, 2009, at 11:37 AM

Turnip (not making fun) Just interested how you came up with the posting name "turnip." Actually, I'm quite fond of those buggers.

-- Posted by Megalomania on Fri, Jan 30, 2009, at 11:40 AM

DUHHHHH, it werent me last nite. I not a retard, I a person....

DUHHHHHHH

-- Posted by cycle_ride on Fri, Jan 30, 2009, at 11:43 AM

Red,

I have this uncanny ability to cause "New" Republicon posters to appear all the time. Megnanaman is just another one of the countless forum assassins that's been paid a bounty to snuff me out.

Also...since you have one on your avatar. Are you able attach snow plows or scoops to those Multipurpose Utility Vehicles? Or am I better off buying one of those 2000 series John Deeres and putting a scoop and a mower attachment on it? I can get a 4x4 JD with scoop and mower for about $17,000. (I think) Big Red looks like it starts at $12,000.

-- Posted by Megalomania on Fri, Jan 30, 2009, at 11:50 AM

DUHHHHH, it werent me last nite. I not a retard, I a person....

DUHHHHHHH

-- Posted by cycle_ride on Fri, Jan 30, 2009, 10:43 am CDT

LOL! That's exactly what I thought the person in Sexy_Thang's avatar might talk like.

-- Posted by Megalomania on Fri, Jan 30, 2009, at 11:53 AM

DUHHHHH, it werent me last nite. I not a retard, I a person....

DUHHHHHHH

-- Posted by cycle_ride on Fri, Jan 30, 2009, 10:43 am CDT

LOL! That's exactly what I thought the person in Sexy_Thang's avatar might talk like.

-- Posted by Megalomania on Fri, Jan 30, 2009, at 11:53 AM

DUHHHHH, it werent me last nite. I not a retard, I a person....

DUHHHHHHH

-- Posted by cycle_ride on Fri, Jan 30, 2009, 10:43 am CDT

LOL! That's exactly what I thought the person in Sexy_Thang's avatar might talk like.

-- Posted by Megalomania on Fri, Jan 30, 2009, at 11:59 AM

Meglo,

Yes, you can put a snow plow or even a bucket on the front which you raise and lower with your winch. They really are only good for snow and loose material and will not handle dirt work or heavy loads. If you are looking for a multi purpose machine that will do a little work and then can be used for play then a Rhino, Polaris Ranger, Kawasaki TeraX, Mule or any of the other UTV’s will work fairly well, but if you are looking for something just for work, you are probably better off with a 4WD John Deere or a Kubota due to the additional power and better torque. I use a small utility tractor with a front loader and box scraper for this stuff and then I put a mid mount sixty inch mower for the summer and remove the attachments.

We have a John Deere and a Kubota that have worked very well.

-- Posted by Red_Rhino on Fri, Jan 30, 2009, at 12:07 PM

Meglo,

Yes, you can put a snow plow or even a bucket on the front which you raise and lower with your winch. They really are only good for snow and loose material and will not handle dirt work or heavy loads. If you are looking for a multi purpose machine that will do a little work and then can be used for play then a Rhino, Polaris Ranger, Kawasaki TeraX, Mule or any of the other UTV’s will work fairly well, but if you are looking for something just for work, you are probably better off with a 4WD John Deere or a Kubota due to the additional power and better torque. I use a small utility tractor with a front loader and box scraper for this stuff and then I put a mid mount sixty inch mower for the summer and remove the attachments.

We have a John Deere and a Kubota that have worked very well.

-- Posted by Red_Rhino on Fri, Jan 30, 2009, at 12:08 PM

Sorry for the double posts, gremlins I guess.

And how p-l-o-w is a bad word I will never know.

-- Posted by Red_Rhino on Fri, Jan 30, 2009, at 12:11 PM

Meglo,

Yes, you can put a snow plow or even a bucket on the front which you raise and lower with your winch. They really are only good for snow and loose material and will not handle dirt work or heavy loads. If you are looking for a multi purpose machine that will do a little work and then can be used for play then a Rhino, Polaris Ranger, Kawasaki TeraX, Mule or any of the other UTV’s will work fairly well, but if you are looking for something just for work, you are probably better off with a 4WD John Deere or a Kubota due to the additional power and better torque. I use a small utility tractor with a front loader and box scraper for this stuff and then I put a mid mount sixty inch mower for the summer and remove the attachments.

We have a John Deere and a Kubota that have worked very well.

-- Posted by Red_Rhino on Fri, Jan 30, 2009, at 12:15 PM

I must have broken something, I'm out.

-- Posted by Red_Rhino on Fri, Jan 30, 2009, at 12:25 PM

Megalomania says - "But...I can't forget Palin's unforgetable follies regarding her comments about what she reads, and the Grammy Winning statement about all her Russian/Alaskan Airspace foreign policy experience. Pure Entertainment! Perhaps Pudgebaugh needs to start having special guests like these on his show? It would be a laugh a minute!"

It’s up to you to accept a myth, it’s irresponsible to perpetuate it as though you might actually be correct. You seem to be misinformed, a lot.

http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2008/09/25/politics/fromtheroad/entry4479278.shtml

-- Posted by blogbudsman on Fri, Jan 30, 2009, at 12:31 PM

Red,

Glad to see I'm not the only one have troubles with double posts.

It's a tough decision. In the city as you know..."fun vehicles" have been banned. I like the looks of those small utility tractors, but frankly...my biggest job is clearing my 40'+ drive. (probably closer to 60' if I include the back.)

My lawn is moderate, but I have to use a push on the hills and my rider gets the rest done within an hour. Have thought about putting in a good size garden though. And I know there is a tiller attachment for those JD SUT. Do those come in diesel? I probably could have made a lump of cash clearing out drives in my neighborhood though.

-- Posted by Megalomania on Fri, Jan 30, 2009, at 12:31 PM

Misinformed?? Umm...You did see the Couric interview?? Or did I imagine that?? Additionally, it was out of her mouth she talks about Putin flying over Alaskan airspace. I seen it, and heard it with my own eyes and ears.

Come on blogman...don't be foolish now. You know she did it and said it. It's VERY well documented. The woman is a complete idiot and a joke. Why degrade yourself to even attempt to defend her?

-- Posted by Megalomania on Fri, Jan 30, 2009, at 12:42 PM

Men will argue about which are the worst and best presidents until the cows come home. I have done this myself at times.

"The government consists of a gang of men exactly like you and me. They have, taking one with another, no special talent for the business of government; they have only a talent for getting and holding office." -H.L. Mencken

-- Posted by James Nall on Fri, Jan 30, 2009, at 12:49 PM

Admit it, the "sexy thang" looks like a complete retard. Just calling a spade a spade. Not into the PC cr*p.

-- Posted by cycle_ride on Fri, Jan 30, 2009, at 12:49 PM

Here we go, for Blogbudsmans refreshing entertainment.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRkWebP2Q0Y&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nokTjEdaUGg&feature=related *snicker* Putin rears his head. LOL! What an idiot!

ohh...s.c.r.e.w. it! Roll all the footage. LOL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrzXLYA_e6E&feature=related

-- Posted by Megalomania on Fri, Jan 30, 2009, at 12:52 PM

Meglo,

The compact tractors by John Deere such as the 2305 and so on as well as the BX and B series Kubotas come with diesel engines. I don’t have a tiller for mine, but may buy one this spring to work up food plots and to re seed portions of my lawn. My property is pretty hilly and with the 4WD I don’t even own a push mower. You might want to look at a BX1850 or one of the John Deere, both are good. Davis in Fruitland handles Kubota and Nobe between Cape and Jackson handles John Deere.

Turnip,

I give up, this has taken about four tries if it goes through this time.

-- Posted by Red_Rhino on Fri, Jan 30, 2009, at 1:00 PM

Just curious... why are the Democrats and the Liberal Media so obsessed with Palin?

-- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Fri, Jan 30, 2009, at 1:02 PM

I am fully aware of what mental retardation encompasses.

I used what is viewed as an offense term. In the context of what was occurring last night, it was appropriate.

-- Posted by cycle_ride on Fri, Jan 30, 2009, at 1:04 PM

I am fully aware of what mental retardation encompasses.

I used what is viewed as an offense term. In the context of what was occurring last night, it was appropriate.

-- Posted by cycle_ride on Fri, Jan 30, 2009, at 1:06 PM

Just curious... why are the Democrats and the Liberal Media so obsessed with Palin?

-- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Fri, Jan 30, 2009, 12:02 pm CDT

Wheels, it's like has been mentioned about going to movies during hard economic times. Times are touch now, and we need a good laugh. LOL! Tina Faye was funny, but Sarah Palin is a natural. LOL!

-- Posted by Megalomania on Fri, Jan 30, 2009, at 1:11 PM

Just curious... why are the Democrats and the Liberal Media so obsessed with Palin?

-- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Fri, Jan 30, 2009, 12:02 pm CDT

Wheels, it's like has been mentioned about going to movies during hard economic times. Times are touch now, and we need a good laugh. LOL! Tina Faye was funny, but Sarah Palin is a natural. LOL!

-- Posted by Megalomania on Fri, Jan 30, 2009, at 1:11 PM

LOL! Gee Thanks Sexy_Thang, you just caused me to shoot soda out me nose.

-- Posted by Megalomania on Fri, Jan 30, 2009, at 1:12 PM

Mega,

I'm a fan. You're just the type of middle of the fence sarcastic fella we need to run against JA Emerson next time. How can I help?

:O)

Sincerely,

-- Posted by grandma72 on Fri, Jan 30, 2009, at 1:17 PM

Meg you said

"Wheels, it's like has been mentioned about going to movies during hard economic times. Times are touch now, and we need a good laugh. LOL! Tina Faye was funny, but Sarah Palin is a natural. LOL!"

Some of the stuff posted sounded more like a rant to me, but if it's amusement you need, I'm happy you find her that funny.

-- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Fri, Jan 30, 2009, at 1:20 PM

Have Wheels,

A book could probably be written on that if you could find an unbiased social scientist; good luck with that.

I like Sara Palin.

Without starting a political argument, the fact that we have lawyers in the top three most powerful positions in this country is worrisome to me; don't like lawyers.

-- Posted by Red_Rhino on Fri, Jan 30, 2009, at 1:25 PM

Red

Like you, I thought she was a breath of fresh air from the typical politicians. But I think the left is definitely a whole lot concerned with her potential.

-- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Fri, Jan 30, 2009, at 1:28 PM

JustUs

My humble, but comedic arrogance wouldn't allow me waste taxpayer money on tom foolry and grandstanding. LOL! Additionally, I'm not quite ready to place myself under the guillotine. However, when ever JAE wants to retire and spare us all the continual degradation please go right ahead.

But...to keep things fun. Anytime you're willing to chuck up $100,000, I'll slap "MEGALOMANIA" on some red, white, and blue political signs and fly Sarah Palin in to serve ale and turkey legs at a high falooted fundraiser.

Of course, she'll have to agree to wear a 17th Century low-cut wenches dress and keep her pie whole shut. "Better Seen and not heard" is what I always say. Infact, that would be a great political platform and slogan to run on.

-- Posted by Megalomania on Fri, Jan 30, 2009, at 1:34 PM

Have Wheels,

I am not as politically astute as many on here, so I really have no idea how much potential she has, but it does seem many are overly preoccupied with her. This was the first year that I have ever seen my wife interested in politics and she remains a big fan of Sarah Palin. As much as I like her, I doubt that she has much of a future on the national scene, but who knows.

-- Posted by Red_Rhino on Fri, Jan 30, 2009, at 1:41 PM

Red

I think she has potential but, I believe there is going to be an all out effort to politically smear her over the next four years.

The media does not get excited about putting a man, who according to his own statements, is not smart enough to figure out his own taxes in a place of power but Palin concerns them to no end.

-- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Fri, Jan 30, 2009, at 1:56 PM

Have Wheels,

In politics, four years is a lifetime. Who would have thought four years ago we would be where we are now in a lot of instances. Sarah Palin may be a major player or only an historical footnote.

-- Posted by Red_Rhino on Fri, Jan 30, 2009, at 2:16 PM

I just wanted to take a minute to thank the wonderful guys at Ameren UE who worked so hard today to restore power to my home. Thanks guys/gals.

-- Posted by dusty_cape on Fri, Jan 30, 2009, at 2:29 PM

Turnip,

My hat is off to you. I know a lot of people with the education, but not the aptitude to do what you do. Several went on to get advance degrees only to remain where they were or go into some other field, mostly law enforcement after serving their internship. Having dealt with such individuals myself, I sure know my limitations.

-- Posted by Red_Rhino on Fri, Jan 30, 2009, at 3:24 PM

And YOU seem to be the only one concerned with it.

-- Posted by cycle_ride on Fri, Jan 30, 2009, at 3:34 PM

Red

Regards four years in politics being a lifetime. You are definitely correct there.

I believe Ex Gov Blago would argue that 4 months are a lifetime. And I suspect there are others around Springfield and Chicago who will age a little between now and the Blago trial... or plea bargain as the case may be.

-- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Fri, Jan 30, 2009, at 3:39 PM

Turnip,

The slang use of the "r" word has been unacceptable for decades. Any individual choosing to use this word, knows exactly what he/she is doing and simply does NOT care how it affects individuals or their families.

-- Posted by Me'Lange on Fri, Jan 30, 2009, at 3:41 PM

The PC Police are out in full force today.

You going to come down on Mega for his screen name? I mean he is insulting all of those people afflicted by that delusional mental disorder.

You call it when you like, I'll call it what I like.

-- Posted by cycle_ride on Fri, Jan 30, 2009, at 3:56 PM

Turnip,

I have a minor in Psychology, but it is old and outdated, so out of curiosity and so as not to make a fool out of myself, not always possible, I did a quick search of the use of the word "retard" and came across a series of You Tube videos entitled "The Retarded Policeman" in which the main character is Josh Perry a high functioning individual with Down Syndrome who says he is not offended and does not feel exploited. I believe the word “retard” was recently used in a movie starring Ben Stiller and there was some backlash, but I don’t know if was taken out or not.

It seems as though in our society some words are acceptable in some contexts and not in others and often even take on an entirely different meaning no longer connected to their origin. For some this is all very simple and for others not so much. I find some of the tolerance level is probably generational as what I find offensive is often accepted by my children.

Have Wheels,

I remember a lot of “rising stars” such as Harold Ford who showed great promise and who were proclaimed to be destined for greatness and now you hear nothing about them.

I will not be surprised if Blago is not convicted as I suspect they may have jumped the gun on this one.

-- Posted by Red_Rhino on Fri, Jan 30, 2009, at 4:04 PM

Is the slang (I suppose it is always slang) use of the "n" word amongst members of the black race acceptable?

Is it only unacceptable when spoken by Caucasians? What if the person saying said word is half black and half Caucasian? Is it half acceptable?

Should anyone even mentioning this word be arrested?

-- Posted by cycle_ride on Fri, Jan 30, 2009, at 4:16 PM

Without starting a political argument, the fact that we have lawyers in the top three most powerful positions in this country is worrisome to me; don't like lawyers.

-- Posted by Red_Rhino on Fri, Jan 30, 2009, 12:25 pm CDT

Hmmmmmm.....

-- Posted by Theorist on Fri, Jan 30, 2009, at 4:17 PM

Red

You could be correct on the Blago conviction thing. I thought he would sway someone yesterday in the impeachment vote but he did not.

Did you hear the theory that was floating around a couple of weeks ago that the trigger was pulled on Blago as quickly as it was to keep the Obama transition team from becomming too involved and creating a major embarassment for Obama and the Nation? Maybe yes maybe no??

Regardless if Blago goes to jail or not, he is finished politically. And if or not he is convicted, he still may spill the beans on some of his buddies. Unless of course everybody else in Chicago politics is squeaky clean, then of course they have nothing to worry about.

-- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Fri, Jan 30, 2009, at 4:22 PM

Just curious... why are the Democrats and the Liberal Media so obsessed with Palin?

-- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Fri, Jan 30, 2009, 12:02 pm

I really wanted to let this slide, but I am only human...

Nobody is obsessed with Palin, embarrassed would be a more accurate term. Embarrassed that a finely polished political power would make such a mistake.

I think the whole "you betcha" and "wink, wink" was demeaning to the entire female gender and cheapened the impact her position could have had.

Lastly, I think (yes, my opinion only) that the way the conservative sect followed her weakened the entire party, and that may be why some from the liberal side do not want anyone to forget her name.

Okay....attack away.....

-- Posted by Theorist on Fri, Jan 30, 2009, at 4:29 PM

Touche' Vegetable Root!

OUR Mega is an embarrassment to megalomaniacs everywhere. We can't have him as the face of this terrible mental condition.

(Gosh, my knuckles sure are getting bloody today. Going to make wrapping my hands around my handgun very difficult. Lighting up a Marlboro will be tough also.)

-- Posted by cycle_ride on Fri, Jan 30, 2009, at 4:41 PM

Theorist,

Yes, hmmmm, and it has nothing to do with the individuals themselves or their political affiliation as I think Obama is a good man though I disagree with him politically. I don’t like Joe Biden and have mixed feelings about Hillary Clinton.

Have Wheels,

I am inclined to believe that they rushed the arrest to prevent Blago from actually appointing anyone at which point it would be too late, but I am certain that there are things we/I don’t know. I really don’t think Obama’s staff was involved to any extent beyond normal politics. Of course I suppose “normal politics” like many things could be embarrassing enough. At this point Blago could say anything he wanted to and no one would believe him, so I don’t know if anyone is worried. I am not to the point that James is, but I have less and less regard for politicians with each passing day.

-- Posted by Red_Rhino on Fri, Jan 30, 2009, at 4:43 PM

Where are the conspiracy theorists when it comes to this Blago stuff? Surely, as Red mentioned, there is fodder to fuel a new conspiracy?

-- Posted by cycle_ride on Fri, Jan 30, 2009, at 4:49 PM

Regards the Palin thing, call it what you like, I call it as I see it, and that is an obsession. They jumped oh her before she had a chance to open her mouth not withstanding the fact as the Governor of Alaska she had about twice the approval rating of the Bush administration and congress combined.

And the Hmmm on Red's statement about lawyers, perhaps he feels the way I do, about 98% of them give the rest a bad name.

How about Carolyn Kennedy's embarrassing inability to make a complete sentence? You know... you know. Why not obsess on that awhile?

-- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Fri, Jan 30, 2009, at 4:55 PM

It would be nice if bad politicians were just bad politician and not fodder for the other side.

Sorry, guess I feel a sleep and dreamt that part......

-- Posted by Pups on Fri, Jan 30, 2009, at 4:58 PM

Turnip,

I remember when “impact” did not mean what it now does. Often word usage becomes prominent in our culture long before it becomes formalized in a dictionary and we get new ones added each year. I don’t like this but it does happen. As a young man we frequently used the word “q-u-e-e-r” to describe an odd or unusual acting person. Over time it became unacceptable with an entirely different meaning.

I have many problems with “political correctness” as I believe the “intent” is far more important than any word and also find it disturbing that someone is judged more harshly for a word they say than for an action which would demonstrate something entirely different. I believe as a society that we have become too judgmental and all too quick to judge based on very little information. Is there a difference between calling someone a retard who is obviously not and calling someone with a developmental disability the same thing and why and to what extent? I also come to this from a different perspective of an individual of a generation that used terms such as retarded, moron, cripple and so on as that was the language of the time. I am probably not making sense.

I still like Sarah Palin, so I guess you and others will have to describe me with less than glowing and admirable terms.

-- Posted by Red_Rhino on Fri, Jan 30, 2009, at 5:06 PM

Wow, I guess when I try to make a funny I really should check my post before posting...

feel should be fell.

-- Posted by Pups on Fri, Jan 30, 2009, at 5:06 PM

"Delusions of genius and world conquest"...ahh yes, Palin and I may have more in common than I think. I should have NEVER of resisted the urge to vote for her solely based upon her "Grrrrr Baby" looks. How blinkard I was by common sense. I should ALWAYS let my little head do the thinking when it comes to politics. After all, the school board and JAE have proven it. You don't need a brain to be a politician. ;o)

-- Posted by Megalomania on Fri, Jan 30, 2009, at 5:12 PM

Wheels,

Though I don't have the same dislike to Ms Kennedy as you may have, I do agree that she would not have been a good pick. Not because I don't agree with her politics, just that she has not been a politician. If that made any sense, cause I could still be sleep deprived.

-- Posted by Pups on Fri, Jan 30, 2009, at 5:12 PM

You make PERFECT sense Red. Well said.

(Now I have to drag myself back to the cave. Going to fire up a cig, watch some porn and call a lawyer about going on disability/medicaid.)

-- Posted by cycle_ride on Fri, Jan 30, 2009, at 5:14 PM

Isn't it funny that you can type porn on here and not get *'d? Filter systems are rather interesting little buggers.

-- Posted by Pups on Fri, Jan 30, 2009, at 5:23 PM

Pups

I have no like or dislike for Carolyn Kennedy, but it makes as much or more sense to be beating up on her as on Palin.

And you are correct she would have not been a good pick. Her name recoginition would have been the only thing that counted.

And she had a tax problem, something that all too many of the politicians who think it is patriotic for us to pay more taxes seem to have. How do they slide by without paying until their appointment or suggestion of an appointment causes them to be vetted and found out. And some still win a high office in spite of the fact.

I am sick to death of politicians.

-- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Fri, Jan 30, 2009, at 5:28 PM

Two cannibals are eating a clown. One likes at the other and says:

"Does this taste funny?"

I apologize to any cannibals out there who might take offense.

-- Posted by cycle_ride on Fri, Jan 30, 2009, at 5:28 PM

Red,

To answer your question about... Is there a difference between calling someone a retard who is obviously not and calling someone with a developmental disability the same thing and why and to what extent?

I'm sure it would depend on who you hears the comments. My ex-financee's sister was mentally disabled. IF a MAN had called his sister a "retard", he would have been punched in the nose (probably several times).

When we first started dating I used the "r" word as slang and was promptly educated about how it made him and his family feel to hear this word used in this manner.

Of course, me being me...I asked for more information...he said the "hurtfulness and insensitivity" caused his heart to sink and a deep ache in the pit of his stomach--being a man you will appreciate the rest of his description more than I--like someone had kicked him between the legs.

-- Posted by Me'Lange on Fri, Jan 30, 2009, at 5:30 PM

With that said, I'm probably more sensitive than some because I was blessed with many years of sharing a variety of experiences with his sister.

I, someone who has never physically fought with anyone... would have punched someone in the face had they been cruel to her.

And still yet today (Barb died 7 years ago), my experiences with her and her friends at her work program, affect the way I respond to the use of the "r" word.

I don't think there is anything wrong with being PC, if it means you are offering another consideration and kindness at the same time.

-- Posted by Me'Lange on Fri, Jan 30, 2009, at 5:41 PM

Veggie friend....

It says, "The years teach much which the days never knew" a quote by Ralph Waldo Emerson

You are correct, it is too small to read, thus very ineffective. Thanks for asking!

-- Posted by Theorist on Fri, Jan 30, 2009, at 5:57 PM

Picked up a thing or two from the Kennedys?

Perhaps swimming, adultery, alcoholism, flying aircraft or getting assassinated?

If your father is a medical doctor, does that make you uniquely qualified to perform surgery?

-- Posted by cycle_ride on Fri, Jan 30, 2009, at 6:00 PM

Turnip,

I understand what you are saying. And I kind of knew someone would catch on to the not being a politician a plus. But I didn't want to use 'experience' cause that would open up a whole different can of worms I didn't want to play in.

-- Posted by Pups on Fri, Jan 30, 2009, at 6:07 PM

Cycle,

So being married to a Kennedy qualify one for political office? Now I know how the Gov. of Calif got ellected.

-- Posted by Pups on Fri, Jan 30, 2009, at 6:10 PM

Cycle posted...."Perhaps swimming, adultery, alcoholism, flying aircraft or getting assassinated?"

Lets see, was he talking about the Kennedys or George W.?

Laughing......Oh right, the flight logs are missing....laughing

-- Posted by Theorist on Fri, Jan 30, 2009, at 6:25 PM

But...IF your husband dies, you obviously are qualified to fill their political seat. ie Emerson

-- Posted by Me'Lange on Fri, Jan 30, 2009, at 6:34 PM

Melange,

She is not the only one that has been 'appointed' when a political spouse has died. Though I don't completely understand the point, but am guessing it is a way of the party of the deceased to keep control of said position.

-- Posted by Pups on Fri, Jan 30, 2009, at 6:38 PM

Turnip, not offended at all. Perhaps Jeremy Clarkson might be ;o)

-- Posted by Megalomania on Fri, Jan 30, 2009, at 6:41 PM

Turnip, Mélange, Theorist et al

I’ve been up in the woods enjoying some of the scenery and missed some interesting discussions. I just threw some stuff out for consideration as I often enjoy mental exercise just for the sake of it. Many subgroups use language that I would not, but I don’t judge them by my standards. I am always interested in the seemingly double standard of those who preach diversity who simply cannot stand it. We are asked not to judge aboriginal tribes and unique cultures and customs by our own standards and values yet we insist on doing the very same thing to people and groups we find distasteful to our own beliefs in this country and our communities. We make fun of “red necks”, “hillbillies” and people who say “gosh darn” as a part of their day to day communications and then condemn someone for saying something we find disparaging when others do not. We have become too judgmental and take life way too seriously. We look for insults, slights or misunderstanding where none exists. Yes, sometimes they are there, but that is life. To ignore an insult or give it no value is probably the best defense.

Oh and as to "qualified politician", that may or may not be a good thing.

-- Posted by Red_Rhino on Fri, Jan 30, 2009, at 7:11 PM

Me'Lange ...I disagree with the husband's death making

the wife eligible for his political seat ...if Barack

should die , does that make Michelle the right person

for president ?

-- Posted by *Rick* on Fri, Jan 30, 2009, at 7:14 PM

BTW...what is the 'r' word?

-- Posted by *Rick* on Fri, Jan 30, 2009, at 7:17 PM

MeLange,

You mean like Jean Carnahan?

-- Posted by Red_Rhino on Fri, Jan 30, 2009, at 7:20 PM

Jean Carnahan is the "r" word?

-- Posted by *Rick* on Fri, Jan 30, 2009, at 7:27 PM

Rick,

Actually some on here consider Republican to be the "r" word.

-- Posted by Red_Rhino on Fri, Jan 30, 2009, at 7:30 PM

Honestly, I think Caroline Kennedy WOULD have made a great candidate. While Caroline Kennedy may not have political experience, she does have character, integrity, and some common sense.

Sarah Palin, on the other hand, was a self-absorbed political absest. Hockey Mom, Flute Player, Moose Burger eater, and Miss Hogbottom of the local county fair doesn't mean she has any of the things I've previously listed.

The fact is, the woman is evasive, a liar, and flip flops on her values. (aka...bridge to no where, and previously being a successionist.)

She killed herself politically when she attempted to use good looks and cheesy charm to swindle herself into the White House. While my respect for John McCain "waivered" at best, I have now lost COMPLETE respect for him for even entertaining this idea. I pray the voters of Arizona will vote him out next election. (Don't be surprised if both Palin AND McCain get political boots from their states) Palin cost him the election, he ultimate cost himself the electiong by even picking her.

Poor Poor judgement. 80% Alaska approval ratings?? Yeah...after the truth has emerged, she's sitting around 49%. She'd be better off posing for Playboy and writing a book. She'd make more money, and probably even get a movie deal. After all, that's what glam/cam hogs want.

-- Posted by Megalomania on Fri, Jan 30, 2009, at 7:31 PM

it appears i missed some good deal of political incorrectness today.

in order to be polically correct i would suggest there are too many people concerned with political correctness and too many to willing to offend.

however if you say (or type) something that offends then simply say sorry to offend, not my intent and others should let it die there.

i say many a thing that are not politically correct and i hate to think i will be eternally responsible for every stupid thing that comes out of my mouth.

when i was growing up we said the word retard on a regular basis. but we were kids and our parents did not like it either.

someday calling someone a liberal or conservative might be politically incorrect as well. perhaps being conservative or liberal is in one's DNA. maybe it is something that cannot be helped. mayebe it is like homosexuality or being short white and bald.

-- Posted by shortwhitebaldguy on Fri, Jan 30, 2009, at 7:32 PM

Rick,

For some reason that is one area (Presidency) where they have made arrangements for someone other then the spouse to take over. Though I think I would have been happy with Barbara or Laura if something had happened to their husbands while in office. But I think that's just me.

-- Posted by Pups on Fri, Jan 30, 2009, at 7:32 PM

Megalomania...do u know caroline kennedy personally ?

what we know about her could fit under our thumb

nail , she was running on her name alone ...

BTW , Palin will be back in 2012

-- Posted by *Rick* on Fri, Jan 30, 2009, at 7:35 PM

Red,

I guess I did. hehe...Learn something new every day! I always thought Emerson was assigned the seat...I just learned she actually ran as an independent to get the seat. Thanks for pointing out my void of knowledge. :-)

-- Posted by Me'Lange on Fri, Jan 30, 2009, at 7:36 PM

Red...Let's look at this in serious light. When JAE, replaced Bill, she was still young, attractive, and naive. (Again...a Palinesk pick by the local GOP)Jo Ann was basically a trophy wife for Bill, she was 12 years younger than him, and had no "experience" with ANYTHING when she took his place.

Then we have Jean, not so pretty, but a "family" who has been politically active in politics, and an active political wife to Mel for several decades.

-- Posted by Megalomania on Fri, Jan 30, 2009, at 7:41 PM

Sorry to offend, not my intent...hehe...hum...maybe I should start copying/pasting this disclosure that on all my post. :-)~

Seriously, guess sometimes I view the world threw my rose-colored glasses. Wouldn't it be nice, IF one knew something would definately offend or be hurtful to another, that perhaps one might try not to say or do it?

Then again, ~sigh~ I'm in the extra-sensitive sub-group. :-)

-- Posted by Me'Lange on Fri, Jan 30, 2009, at 7:45 PM

Megal....

Add that to the questionably moral beginning of the Emerson's relationship and the fact that Joann has NO ties (except marriage) to southeast Missouri which she is elected to represent.

I find it odd that the conservative party which prides themselves on family values, have discreetly overlooked this....but that is just me, and of course my opinion.

-- Posted by Theorist on Fri, Jan 30, 2009, at 7:46 PM

i think when Emerson died his wife got the sympathy

vote ...did she have any political experience ?

i disremember ...

-- Posted by *Rick* on Fri, Jan 30, 2009, at 7:46 PM

extra-sensitive sub-group

Yeah...I meant female.

-- Posted by Me'Lange on Fri, Jan 30, 2009, at 7:48 PM

Sorry to offend, not my intent but Obama stinks ...

lets see how this goes over...

-- Posted by *Rick* on Fri, Jan 30, 2009, at 7:50 PM

Rick,

You little stinker!

-- Posted by Me'Lange on Fri, Jan 30, 2009, at 7:51 PM

Me'Lange , none of my business , but what happened to

your avatar with see no evil , speak no evil , hear no evil ?

-- Posted by *Rick* on Fri, Jan 30, 2009, at 7:53 PM

Megalomania...do u know caroline kennedy personally ?

what we know about her could fit under our thumb

nail , she was running on her name alone ...

BTW , Palin will be back in 2012

-- Posted by Rick*Scaggs on Fri, Jan 30, 2009, 6:35 pm CDT

Rick, I can easily ask...do you know Palin Personally?

But let's compare career accomplishments per wiki:

Kennedy: Kennedy is an attorney, writer, and editor and serves on the boards of numerous non-profit organizations.

From 2002 through 2004, Kennedy worked as director of the Office of Strategic Partnerships for the New York City Department of Education. The three-day-a-week job paid her a salary of $1 and had the goal of raising private money for the New York City public schools. In that capacity, she helped raise more than $65 million for the city’s public schools. She currently serves as one of two vice chairs of the board of directors of The Fund for Public Schools, a public-private partnership founded in 2002 to attract private funding for public schools in New York City. She has also served on the board of trustees of Concord Academy, which she attended as a child.

Kennedy and other members of her family created the Profile in Courage Award in 1989. The award is given to a public official or officials whose actions demonstrate politically courageous leadership in the spirit of John F. Kennedy's book, Profiles in Courage. In addition, Kennedy is president of the Kennedy Library Foundation and an adviser to the Harvard Institute of Politics, a living memorial to her father.

She is a member of the New York and Washington, D.C. bar associations. She is also a member of the boards of directors of the Commission on Presidential Debates and the NAACP Legal Defense and Educational Fund, and is an honorary chair of the American Ballet Theatre.

Now...here is Palin's vitae:

In 1988, she worked as a sports reporter for KTUU-TV and KTVA-TV in Anchorage, and for the Mat-Su Valley Frontiersman as a sports reporter. She also helped in her husband’s commercial fishing family business.

and well...there's her political career...COMPLETELY surrounded in controversy from Mayor to Governor, but you can read it all yourself.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarah_Palin

Comparable...Palin has "been in the middle" of more, but I think it's "quality" that counts, not quantity...but I guess it's all in what you are looking for.

-- Posted by Megalomania on Fri, Jan 30, 2009, at 7:55 PM

Megal asked for the snowman...I'll change it back...one of these days.

Always been drawn to that saying...has been one of my favorites since high school. Even have the Boyd's Bear version of "hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil" sitting on my computer desk.

-- Posted by Me'Lange on Fri, Jan 30, 2009, at 7:56 PM

Rick, as mentioned previously...(other than being a supporter and friend to the Carnahan's) I was very active in Republican politics in 1992-1996. Jo Ann's only experience as I remember it, was trophy wife at the Lincoln Day Dinners I attended.

-- Posted by Megalomania on Fri, Jan 30, 2009, at 7:58 PM

Megalomania...i don't know either of them personally .

if her name wasn't Kennedy she wouldn't be taken seriously ..

McCain made Palin famous...

-- Posted by *Rick* on Fri, Jan 30, 2009, at 8:00 PM

Really! This is the stuff that really urks me about the GOP!

****Michael Steele becomes first black RNC chairman****

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090130/ap_on_el_ge/republicans

Come on folks, this is soo pathetic and groveling. First they picked Palin to rub Hillary wrong, now this?? This is the very stuff the public sees through and is outraged by. Can't they do anything original??

-- Posted by Megalomania on Fri, Jan 30, 2009, at 8:04 PM

Megal,

I was not comparing quality, just circumstances of ascendancy. I have met Jo Ann on several occasions and have never been impressed, but she or whoever handles her knows how to get out and meet the people. She has also answered every communication I have ever sent her. On one occasion she assisted in resolving an issue with BATFE in which they would not respond to any of my communications some of which were of an official nature. I received a response from the Director along with the letter she had sent to them. I have not gotten anything close to this with any other politician.

-- Posted by Red_Rhino on Fri, Jan 30, 2009, at 8:06 PM

"McCain made Palin famous..."

-- Posted by Rick*Scaggs on Fri, Jan 30, 2009, 7:00 pm CDT

LOL! According to Miss Mooseburger 2006, I think it was the other way around. LOL!

-- Posted by Megalomania on Fri, Jan 30, 2009, at 8:06 PM

Red,

Respectfully, I'll give her this. Emerson has pie piped someone to keep getting elected. Don't know how or why...but facts are facts. I'm glad you've had good luck with her, you may be one of the few. Yes, I get "letter" responses from her too. But frankly on the "real" hard issues, she scores subpar. IMO.

-- Posted by Megalomania on Fri, Jan 30, 2009, at 8:11 PM

Theorist,

"Questionable" is a polite way of putting it. LOL!

-- Posted by Megalomania on Fri, Jan 30, 2009, at 8:14 PM

Me'lange...LOL! You can change it, I'm tired of snow now. LOL!

-- Posted by Megalomania on Fri, Jan 30, 2009, at 8:15 PM

Megalo,

How can you possibly be tired of snow??? We've only had it for two days, four if you count the ice. hehe

-- Posted by Pups on Fri, Jan 30, 2009, at 8:35 PM

Willy, Thanks for that info. I've pretty much decided on one of the JD small utility tractors. I can till, mow, move snow...ect. I'm not much of a "fun" vehicle type guy. I'm more into practicality. Now...getting my hands on one for the right price...will be another story.

-- Posted by Megalomania on Fri, Jan 30, 2009, at 8:36 PM

Willy, Thanks for that info. I've pretty much decided on one of the JD small utility tractors. I can till, mow, move snow...ect. I'm not much of a "fun" vehicle type guy. I'm more into practicality. Now...getting my hands on one for the right price...will be another story.

-- Posted by Megalomania on Fri, Jan 30, 2009, at 8:36 PM

Willy, Thanks for that info. I've pretty much decided on one of the JD small utility tractors. I can till, mow, move snow...ect. I'm not much of a "fun" vehicle type guy. I'm more into practicality. Now...getting my hands on one for the right price...will be another story.

-- Posted by Megalomania on Fri, Jan 30, 2009, at 8:36 PM

Willy,

Hunterworks has some good stuff. I haven't even bothered with my drive yet as it will melt off this weekend and we don't have any trouble getting through. Being retired means I don't HAVE to go anywhere and a slick drive may keep the riff raff away. My drive is close to three hundred feet and if it is very bad, I will just get one of the big tractors and use it, but I am not even sure one of them will get rid of it all without getting into the gravel pretty bad due to the ice. If we did not have the tractors, I would seriously consider a plow for my Rhino as I am sure it would be pretty quick. I have had Mules and did not really care for them. I think Rhinos are a compromise, but that is just what I want.

-- Posted by Red_Rhino on Fri, Jan 30, 2009, at 8:47 PM

Red,

Is that JD 2305 4WD? Or do I have to step up to the 2320 for that? Also, I want a mowing deck to go under the tractor, not a pull behind. These photos are confusing. It shows 2320 pulling a mower. Guess I'll be going to a dealer tomorrow.

-- Posted by Megalomania on Fri, Jan 30, 2009, at 8:51 PM

In my HUMBLE opinion, if we had more everyday people running this country, we wouldn't have a pork barrel with the sign 'stimulus' sitting in front of us right now being told it is good for us. Nor would our military be asked to cut 10% from their budget while handing over money to BIG losers in big paying positions who need our tax dollars for purchasing jets or to be paid a bonus. The most irresponsible people in the world are the ones sitting in the Congressional seats of the United States.

This is my opinion!

-- Posted by LiveAnotherDay on Fri, Jan 30, 2009, at 8:52 PM

What we all really need to do is not concern ourselves with ridiculous politics and who is a conservative and who is a liberal and where and what ties they have to anything or anywhere. Instead we need to worry about fixing the mess we ALL got ourselves into!! Ya'l can continue your rhedoric about DEMOPUBLICANS which is exactly what many of you are, or you can e-mail or write these idiots (every one of them) that are suppose to be fixing a VERY SERIOUS problem up there in our Nations Capital and remind them that this is NO TIME to play politics rather its time to do the PEOPLES WORK! Yep im sick of politics and DEMOPUBLICANS I want to see serious work getting done i

I don't want to hear anymore crap about who is to blame for anything. If we really wanted change we would forget this freakin give away to the wealthy and the idiots who helped get us into this mess and instead give those billions and billions to US the tax payers! By God that would put money EXACTLY where it needs to be most. Frankly if we had that money I would think we would all start spending and buying. Gee I bet if we all did that many of these buisnesses that are failing wouldn't and folks would be going back to work! Just common sense seems to me. Oh well, nothing correct gets done by this Government so as I have said many times along with others here," we would all be better off without it".

This tirade was not meant to offend anyone it is just the Wolf's opinion and nothing more...

-- Posted by GREYWOLF on Fri, Jan 30, 2009, at 8:57 PM

Meglo,

Our 2305 is a 4WD and I wouldn’t have a 2WD. Of course you can get different 2000 series with bigger engines, but I doubt you will need it. You can get a 62” “belly mount” deck or the pull behind finish mower. I prefer the “belly mount”. You can also get it set up with a front loader which is handy. As to tillers and other stuff, go to Ag Mart or somewhere else as JD brand parts will cost a lot more.

Look at both before you buy, I have both and my next one will be a Kubota. Both are Japanese in spite of the name. Look at the deck belts and controls as well as material used. The Kubota has more steel than the JD. I also don’t like the brake on the left side as it is on the JD. I am sure there are other good brands, but I have no personal experience with them. Prices will vary, so checking around will save you some money. Both are good machines.

-- Posted by Red_Rhino on Fri, Jan 30, 2009, at 9:02 PM

An entire days' page cut down to two paragraphs ... You're welcome, all. ~smiling~

The 'obsession' with Palin is not us exactly, but her ... She's the one trying to keep herself 'out there' in the public, the media (really chuckled over someone saying recently that the media should 'leave her alone'--NOT what she wants at all, IMO) ... Umm ... One thought about Palin vs Kennedy ... Palin was (in essence) running for POTUS, while Kennedy was considering a senatorship in order to help keep the Kennedy political dynasty going. IMO, neither lady was/is qualified for the hoped-for positions, not even by osmosis or background -- no more than I considered myself qualified to be an Operations Director after years of not only listening to Pops' work-related stuff but doing tons of his typing, editing, research, etc.

Aw, Willy, you just had to say "...strengthens my belief that politician personally attack the candidates that are better than themselves.", didn't you? Now I'm trying to figure out ... since it seems they all attack the opposition ... which ones really are 'better?' ~sigh~ Perhaps the correct answer is 'None of the above?'

-- Posted by gurusmom on Fri, Jan 30, 2009, at 9:24 PM

Sorry to offend, not my intent but Palin stinks ...

lets see how this goes over...

(sorry Rick...I thought your comment was cute...just needed a minor edit)

-- Posted by Me'Lange on Fri, Jan 30, 2009, at 9:39 PM

Willy,

I might be seeing this wrong, you have stated on different occassions that we can thank (blame) Carter, Clinton, and Obama (though he has only been in office for 11 days). But between Carter and Obama we had Reagan, Bush and Bush. Only Dem Presidents are to thanked (blamed), even if the current problem fell under a Rep President?

Not argueing, just asking.

-- Posted by Pups on Fri, Jan 30, 2009, at 9:54 PM

Willy,

You haven't figured me out yet??? Would have settled for a simple "yes". lol

Have a great weekend and thanks for the link.

-- Posted by Pups on Fri, Jan 30, 2009, at 10:17 PM

Oh, and that 'right lean' article was a full 90 degree right turn. lol

-- Posted by Pups on Fri, Jan 30, 2009, at 10:19 PM

Willy,

How is the 'it's GW fault' any different then the 'it's Clinton's fault' we heard most of the 8 years of GW's Presidency from some? (not saying you btw)

I know what you mean, I took that kind of hit over the last two quarters. Kind of smarts, but also the risk in a 401K plan don't you think?

I guess that we can agree that there is plenty of problems to be shared by both parties.

-- Posted by Pups on Fri, Jan 30, 2009, at 10:35 PM

Oh, and remember though I was alive during the Carter years, I was overseas so did not experience the "Carter Crunch" others did. And reading about it or studing it in history doesn't give me the perspective or understanding that you have on it.

-- Posted by Pups on Fri, Jan 30, 2009, at 10:42 PM

Red,

Thanks for that info. I was trying to justify what the $5,000 difference was between the 2305 and the 2320.

Willy,

I don't know why she keeps getting re-elected. BTW, did you ever call her office yet?

Now...on another note. I had an OMGosh moment. I was just reading the daily cartoonies, and "Hi and Lois" caught my eye...Why? They mentioned "BLUE LAW." Hmm...have I resurged the BLUE LAW interest?? YES! I'm soo proud! *self-pat-on-back*

-- Posted by Megalomania on Fri, Jan 30, 2009, at 11:15 PM

Speaking of Carter, I wonder what he thinks about all these poisoness peanuts?

-- Posted by Megalomania on Fri, Jan 30, 2009, at 11:17 PM

Interesting

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090131/ap_on_go_pr_wh/daschle_taxes

Would this possibly be called fraud? And Obama is confident of his confirmation! Fraudulent tax returns for at least three year and he is still eligible?? That will make at least two confirmations with big tax problems. So much for change!

-- Posted by Have_Wheels_Will_Travel on Sat, Jan 31, 2009, at 12:30 AM


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