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Sunday, November 2, 2008

ER frustrations

AS A nurse, I get frustrated when I read the comments about local emergency rooms. While I understand that wait times are long and that it is frustrating for patients, let me tell you what I think is frustrating: having to tell someone they will have to wait because we are backed up taking care of patients who use the ER as their primary-care provider, people who call 911 and take an ambulance to the ER for head lice, people who come in for sexually transmitted disease checks on a regular basis (the health department does these for free), people who come in on a weekly or daily basis and people who come in just to get a prescription for generic Tylenol so Medicaid will pay for it. I also like the people who take up time getting triaged just to leave 20 minutes later because they didn't think it would take this long. It's called an emergency room. It's for emergencies. The misuse of our local emergency rooms is frustrating.

Comparing socialism

I SPENT several years in a European country often labeled socialist by political pundits. In that country, health care and college (tuition and boarding) are free for every citizen, and everyone gets at least five weeks of vacation a year. It takes a manual laborer about 20 minutes to earn enough for a meal in a family-style restaurant. Women are allowed up to three years for maternity leave. The national debt is measured in billions, not trillions (translated into U.S. dollars). Despite these facts, American fast-food chains, real estate agencies and countless small business are thriving over there under what we would recognize as competitive capitalism.

Parade trash

DOWNTOWN WAS a mess the morning after the Homecoming parade. A crew should be employed to clean up the trash as soon as possible. Tourists from the riverboat were walking through the area and stepping over trash.

Industrialism is good

CONSUMERISM IS bad. Industrialism is good. With industrialism you have innovation and creativity, which lead to growth in a society. With consumerism you have people flushing money down the giant toilet called the service economy.

Government expansion

MICHAEL JENSEN, an alleged conservative, advocate of small government and apparent supporter of Ronald Reagan, paradoxically supported two presidents (Reagan and Bush) under whom we've seen the greatest expansion of the federal government in history.

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email me at robertgoodbody@gmail.com, and I will have the person who has the photo, email it to you!

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-- Posted by Robert Goodbody on Sun, Nov 2, 2008, at 3:22 AM

Good Morning everyone,

ER Nurse-If people are coming in so to speak for head lice, that would be your fault for making that person a priority over those who are really sick or injured.

Me'Lange, I agree with you some people go to the ER and to them it is an emergency. It all depends on the situation, but I have seen many have to wait because of the fact that someone who was not in need of it, but there simply because they didn't want to wait to go to the clinic or the doctor's ofice.


-- Posted by Aggiefan/Twiggy on Sun, Nov 2, 2008, at 8:26 AM

Jewish World Review April 29, 2008 / 24 Nissan 5768

Barack Obama's Muslim Childhood

By Daniel Pipes

http://www.JewishWorldReview.com | As Barack Obama's candidacy comes under increasing scrutiny, his account of his religious upbringing deserves careful attention for what it tells us about the candidate's integrity.

Obama asserted in December, "I've always been a Christian," and he has adamantly denied ever having been a Muslim. "The only connection I've had to Islam is that my grandfather on my father's side came from that country [Kenya]. But I've never practiced Islam." In February, he claimed: "I have never been a Muslim. � other than my name and the fact that I lived in a populous Muslim country for 4 years when I was a child [Indonesia, 1967-71] I have very little connection to the Islamic religion."

"Always" and "never" leave little room for equivocation. But many biographical facts, culled mainly from the American press, suggest that, when growing up, the Democratic candidate for president both saw himself and was seen as a Muslim.

Obama's Kenyan birth father: In Islam, religion passes from the father to the child. Barack Hussein Obama, Sr. (1936-1982) was a Muslim who named his boy Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. Only Muslim children are named "Hussein".

Obama's Indonesian family: His stepfather, Lolo Soetoro, was also a Muslim. In fact, as Obama's half-sister, Maya Soetoro-Ng explained to Jodi Kantor of the New York Times: "My whole family was Muslim, and most of the people I knew were Muslim." An Indonesian publication, the Banjarmasin Post reports a former classmate, Rony Amir, recalling that "All the relatives of Barry's father were very devout Muslims."

The Catholic school: Nedra Pickler of the Associated Press reports that "documents showed he enrolled as a Muslim" while at a Catholic school during first through third grades. Kim Barker of the Chicago Tribune confirms that Obama was "listed as a Muslim on the registration form for the Catholic school." A blogger who goes by "An American Expat in Southeast Asia" found that "Barack Hussein Obama was registered under the name 'Barry Soetoro' serial number 203 and entered the Franciscan Asisi Primary School on 1 January 1968 and sat in class 1B. � Barry's religion was listed as Islam."

The public school: Paul Watson of the Los Angeles Times learned from Indonesians familiar with Obama when he lived in Jakarta that he "was registered by his family as a Muslim at both schools he attended." Haroon Siddiqui of the Toronto Star visited the Jakarta public school Obama attended and found that "Three of his teachers have said he was enrolled as a Muslim." Although Siddiqui cautions that "With the school records missing, eaten by bugs, one has to rely on people's shifting memories," he cites only one retired teacher, Tine Hahiyari, retracting her earlier certainty about Obama's being registered as a Muslim.

Koran class: In his autobiography, Dreams of My Father, Obama relates how he got into trouble for making faces during Koranic studies, thereby revealing he was a Muslim, for Indonesian students in his day attended religious classes according to their faith. Indeed, Obama still retains knowledge from that class: Nicholas D. Kristof of the New York Times, reports that Obama "recalled the opening lines of the Arabic call to prayer, reciting them [to Kristof] with a first-rate accent."

Mosque attendance: Obama's half-sister recalled that the family attended the mosque "for big communal events." Watson learned from childhood friends that "Obama sometimes went to Friday prayers at the local mosque." Barker found that "Obama occasionally followed his stepfather to the mosque for Friday prayers." One Indonesia friend, Zulfin Adi, states that Obama "was Muslim. He went to the mosque. I remember him wearing a sarong" (a garment associated with Muslims).

Piety: Obama himself says that while living in Indonesia, a Muslim country, he "didn't practice [Islam]," implicitly acknowledging a Muslim identity. Indonesians differ in their memories of him. One, Rony Amir, describes Obama as "previously quite religious in Islam."

Obama's having been born and raised a Muslim and having left the faith to become a Christian make him neither more nor less qualified to become president of the United States. But if he was born and raised a Muslim and is now hiding that fact, this points to a major deceit, a fundamental misrepresentation about himself that has profound implications about his character and his suitability as president.

-- Posted by mobushwhacker on Sun, Nov 2, 2008, at 9:09 AM

Obama: Spike energy costs to make people go 'green'

2007 interview: Proposes governmentcreate 'price signals' to control behavior



-- Posted by mobushwhacker on Sun, Nov 2, 2008, at 9:14 AM

It is my humble opinion that America is in the midst of a coup, at the head of this coup is Senator Barack Obama ( or at the very least he is the lead pawn) he is being encouraged by our enemies. Assesories to the crim

First the Obama visits Hawaii , supposedly to visit his ailing grandmother , you know the same grandmother that he threw under the bus during his famous "race" speech...

ABC News reported that...

"WEST PALM BEACH, Florida (Reuters) - Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama will leave the campaign trail to go to Hawaii this week to visit the ailing grandmother who helped raise him, an aide said on Monday."Recently his grandmother has become ill and in the last few weeks her health has deteriorated to the point where her situation is very serious," said Obama aide Robert Gibbs.Obama's grandmother, Madelyn Dunham, who will be 86 on Sunday, helped raise him along with his mother, Ann Dunham, and his grandfather, Stanley Dunham. Gibbs would not discuss the nature of her illness."

That's because the nature of "her illness" was HIS birth certificate! You see, without a birth certificate, there is no proof that he is not a citizen. So he flies to Hawaii to "visit his grandmother" on October 21'st.

FOUR DAYS LATER a judge dismisses a law suit filed by Pennsylvania DEMOCRAT Attorney Phillip Berg.

A story posted on World Net Daily on October 25 states :

"A lawsuit filed by Democratic attorney Philip Berg alleging that Sen. Barack Obama is ineligible to be president was dismissed by a federal judge yesterday on grounds that Berg lacks standing to bring the lawsuit.

In a 34-page memorandum that accompanied the court order, the Hon. R. Barclay Surrick concludes that ordinary citizens can't sue to ensure that a presidential candidate actually meets the constitutional requirements of the office."

Also on October 25, Berg issues a press release posted on his website: http://www.obamacrimes.com/ which states that...

"Berg said, "I am totally disappointed by Judge Surrick's decision and, for all citizens of the United States, I am immediately appealing to the U.S. Supreme Court.This is a question of who has standing to uphold our Constitution. If I don't have standing, if you don't have standing, if your neighbor doesn't have standing to question the eligibility of an individual to be President of the United States - the Commander-in-Chief, the most powerful person in the world - then who does?"

So one day after Berg issues his press release saying he is appealing the judges ruling to the Supreme Court guess what happens? The Governor of Hawaii seals Obama's birth certificate! World Net Daily reports today {October 26th} ....

"HONOLULU, Hawaii – Although the legitimacy of Sen. Barack Obama's birth certificate has become a focus of intense speculation – and even several lawsuits – WND has learned that Hawaii's Gov. Linda Lingle has placed the candidate's birth certificate under seal, and instructed the state's Department of Health to make sure no one in the press obtains access to the original document under any circumstances."

The article continues...

"WND was told the official reason for denial of access to Obama's birth certificate would be authority granted pursuant to Section 338-18 of the Hawaii Revised Statutes, a provision the anonymous source claimed was designed to prevent identity theft.Still, the source told WND confidentially the motivation for withholding the original birth certificate was political, although the source refused to disclose whether there was any information on the original birth certificate that would prove politically embarrassing to Obama." and that, "In a startling development, Obama's Kenyan grandmother has reportedly alleged she witnessed Obama's birth at the Coast Provincial Hospital in Mombasa, Kenya.Friday, U.S. Federal judge Richard Barclay Surrick, a Clinton appointee, dismissed a lawsuit brought by Pennsylvania attorney Phillip J. Berg who alleged Obama was not a U.S. "natural born" citizen and therefore ineligible for the presidency under the specifications of the U.S. Constitution, under Article II, Section 1.Berg told WND last week he does not have a copy of a Kenyan birth certificate for Obama that he alleges exists.In Kenya, WND was told by government authorities that all documents concerning Obama were under seal until after the U.S. presidential election on November 4.The Obama campaign website entitled "Fight the Smears" posts a State of Hawaii "Certificate of Live Birth" which is obviously not the original birth certificate generate by the hospital where Obama was born."Fight the Smears" declares, "The truth is, Barack Obama was born in the state of Hawaii in 1961, a native citizen of the United States of America."Although the Obama campaign could immediately put an end to all the challenges by simply producing the candidate's original birth certificate, it has not done so. And the "Fight the Smears" website offers no explanation as to why Obama has refused to request, and make public, an original hospital-generated birth certificate which the Hawaii Department of Health may possess."

He's not going to make public and original birth certificate because he is not a citizen! Sealed documents all over the world on this man and now the Governor of Hawaii seals his "birth certificate" not even a week after Obama visits the state?

This is a coup,a take over of this country by our enemies.

I've never seen anything like this...EVER, it is scary, very scary. No doubt Obama's "Truth Squad" will be all over this, well I've got a suggestion for you "Truth Squad" thugs... go find you boss's Birth Certificate!

People wake up! Your country is being stolen right out from under your eyes!

-- Posted by mobushwhacker on Sun, Nov 2, 2008, at 9:27 AM

Kentucky.Com is reporting that:

"LEXINGTON, Ky. -- Two men are "extremely sorry" for hanging an effigy of Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama on the University of Kentucky campus, their attorney said Friday, but he said charges related to their "ill-conceived prank" were excessive.

UK student Joe Fischer, 22, and Hunter Bush, 21, pleaded not guilty to charges of disorderly conduct, burglary and theft the day after their arrest.

"The two young men are extremely sorry for what they did and the embarrassment they have caused everyone," Peters said. "The charges are very extreme for what they did and we will deal with them in the courts."

The life-sized effigy was found Wednesday, hanging from a tree with a noose around its neck.

A judge set a preliminary hearing for Dec. 1.

Both men were still in the Fayette County Detention Center on Friday."

Well, I guess hanging someone in effigy is a serious crime right? I mean, wouldn't it be considered a hate crime in today's modern "politically-correct" world? A threat in a manner of speaking?

Well I guess that depends on who you are. Kentucky.com, goes on to state in their report that:

"A mannequin of GOP vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin hanging in a man's yard in West Hollywood, Calif., also did not prompt charges."

As www.weirdnews.com described the Palin incident in an article the website published on October 29th, 2008 ...

"One could only imagine what Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson would say if Barack Obama were hung in effigy.

Instead, it was a Sarah Palin mannequin -- complete with beehive hairdo, designer glasses and red coat -- twisting in the wind KKK execution style from a West Hollywood home.

It was shocking enough for the Secret Service to investigate. Now, the LAPD has declared it's not a hate crime"

No it's not a hate crime if the "victim" in effigy is white but if the "victim" in effigy is black the perpetrators have to beg for forgiveness and hire lawyers.

-- Posted by mobushwhacker on Sun, Nov 2, 2008, at 9:31 AM

Obama Supporters Predict 2'cd Civil War; Blood in Streets if Obama Loses...

From: http://www.observer.com/2008/politics/er...

"My friends Ken Follett and Susan Cheever are extremely worried. Naomi Wolf calls me every day. Yesterday, Jane Fonda sent me an email to tell me that she cried all night and can't cure her ailing back for all the stress that has reduces her to a bundle of nerves."

"My back is also suffering from spasms, so much so that I had to see an acupuncturist and get prescriptions for Valium."

"After having stolen the last two elections, the Republican Mafia…"

"If Obama loses it will spark the second American Civil War. Blood will run in the streets, believe me. And it's not a coincidence that President Bush recalled soldiers from Iraq for Dick Cheney to lead against American citizens in the streets."

-- Posted by mobushwhacker on Sun, Nov 2, 2008, at 9:39 AM


ur just full of cheer today ...i like ur conspiracy

theories however wild they may seem ..i don't think

it will be as nefarious as all that tho..

-- Posted by ..Rick on Sun, Nov 2, 2008, at 9:47 AM


-- Posted by ..Rick on Sun, Nov 2, 2008, at 9:54 AM


LMAO that was good.


-- Posted by Aggiefan/Twiggy on Sun, Nov 2, 2008, at 10:08 AM

Where does some of these people come up with what I have read on this blog this morning. Stop being so narrow minded and believeing everything that is sent to you through radical emails and talk shows. If Senator Obama is elected our next President I believe he will do a good job under extreme difficulties and that he will bring the nation together. America has been divided way to long and you see the results. I have never seen so much hate talk as I have witness in this election cycle, it is no wonder we are in the mess we are in. Senator Obama if elected will have both republicans and democrats serving on his cabinet and will work with both parties something we have not seen in this country for decades. It is time we take conservative, liberal, blue state and red state and lay it aside and become one nation the United States of America. UNITED WE STAND AND DIVIDED WE FALL

-- Posted by swampeastmissouri on Sun, Nov 2, 2008, at 10:13 AM

Two days to go to the election. Should prove to be entertaining. Whoever wins I suspect I will get up the next day and go to work.

RE: economy. A healthy economy will have a good mix of both service oriented as well as a production of goods. Servieces are also a good and a means of producing real wealth.

-- Posted by shortwhitebaldguy on Sun, Nov 2, 2008, at 10:30 AM

Rick, you think they're conspicracy theories? Wrong they are facts!

Why doesn't the "great messiah" Obama simply provide us with his real birth records?

Hilleco: WHy don't you just admit what you are. I know you want to vote for Obama, You know you want to vote for him, so why don't you just let go and admit it, get in touch with that inner hippie that you lone to be again.

Answer my questions with more questions before you finally admit that no one lied about Obama on here as you finally did late last night, early this morning.

Here are some more facts for you and everyone else...

Obama to create Civilian National Security Force


About that 'civilian national security force'


Posted: September 08, 2008

1:00 am Eastern

© 2008

The pieces are coming together.

We're getting a more complete picture of Barack Obama's draconian plans to create a domestic army of radical extremists promoting bigger and more intrusive government.

The plan is to create a boot camp for community agitators – paid for by you, the U.S. taxpayer.

Investor's Business Daily deserves credit for putting together the elaborate jigsaw puzzle. I merely saw the smoke. IBD discovered the fire. But for reference, you will want to read about what I found previously regarding Obama's calls for a "civilian national security force."

It seems Obama was a founding member of a group called Public Allies in 1992. In 1993, he resigned before his wife, Michelle, took over as executive director of the Chicago chapter.

This little-known, but well-funded, band of taxpayer-supported social misfits will, according to IBD, serve as the centerpiece of his "Universal Voluntary Public Service" program.

"Universal voluntary?" Isn't that an oxymoron? Yes, but just consider the moron who is advocating it.

"Big Brother had nothing on the Obamas," write the editorialists for IBD. "They plan to herd American youth into government-funded re-education camps where they'll be brainwashed into thinking America is a racist, oppressive place in need of 'social change.'"

The "Obama Youth" will get a monthly stipend of $1,800, plus paid health and child care, plus a $4,725 grant after their "service" for future education or school loan payoffs.

But this isn't just a make-work program.

IBD says the "real mission is to radicalize American youth and use them to bring about 'social change' through threats, pressure, tension and confrontation – the tactics used by the father of community organizing, Saul 'The Red' Alinsky."

The group boasts that graduates of the program are more than twice as likely as other young people to "engage in protest activities." Isn't that wonderful? That's the real purpose – using your tax dollars to foment extremist political clashes, furthering the reach of Big Government into the lives of all of us.

The government already pays about half the bill for Public Allies through Bill Clinton's AmeriCorps program. Obama seeks to fund it at levels equal to the U.S. Defense Department – close to $500 billion annually.

This is what he meant when he said: "We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded" as the military."

IBD concludes: "The gall of it: The Obamas want to create a boot camp for radicals who hate the military – and stick American taxpayers with the bill."

What else is there to say?

Such a program would fundamentally change the character of America – possibly forever.

Someone should ask Obama, who claims to be a legal scholar, where he finds such a program authorized among the enumerated powers of the Constitution.

Now that would be an entertaining question and answer for some intrepid member of the press.

Personally, I won't hold my breath waiting for anyone with access to be so bold.

Remember what programs like this are about. They are about empowering government to take more control over your life. They are about limiting your freedom. They are about picking your pocket. They are about changing the way you think by coercion. They are about making you uncomfortable being an American. They are about total power – and never letting go.

We've seen programs like this before – in Hitler's Germany, Mussolini's Italy, Stalin's Soviet Union and Mao's China.

Never again.

-- Posted by mobushwhacker on Sun, Nov 2, 2008, at 10:35 AM


No, I won't be getting up and going to work the next day because under an oppressive Republican administration, I lost my job; no wait I retired never mind.

-- Posted by Red_Rhino on Sun, Nov 2, 2008, at 10:43 AM

From American Daily.Com:


Obama's Economic Nazism

By Bruce Walker (11/02/08)

Barack Obama, in his recently released infamous radio interview of seven years ago, opined that America was beginning to resemble Nazism. No: Obama is wrong. What Obama himself proposes are economic policies almost identical to Nazism. The Left has refused to claim the Nazis, even though the Nazis considered themselves the mortal enemies of conservatives, the champions of "change" which would help ordinary people . . . and socialists. The historical facts show just how much of what Obama wants and what the Nazis actually did look the same.

Obama hopes to tax the rich more. The Nazis did tax the rich more. The Nazis on October 16, 1938 raised the highest income tax rate from 40% to 50%. On February 17, 1939, they raised that highest rate again to 55%. By a decree of September 9, 1939, the Nazis increased income taxes again, but they exempted from that increase those incomes of 2,400 Reichmarks a year or less. High income Germans, not low income Germans, bore the brunt of Nazi taxation.

Obama hopes to restrict the salaries and bonuses of corporate officers and directors. The Nazis did restrict the salaries and bonuses of corporate officers and directors. In October 1937, a law was passed giving complete control to the government of salaries of corporation officers and directors. Later, the tax on directors’ fees was increased from 10% to 20%. Directors of corporations were allowed to grant bonuses only upon condition that those bonuses were directly tied to profit and only upon condition that the board of directors authorize “voluntary social contributions” to employees, granting employees effectively an automatic share in corporate profits. What was the impact of this? M. Fodor, an internationally renowned anti-Nazi correspondent wrote at the time: “The salaries of managers and members of boards of directors were drastically restricted.”

Obama hopes to soak big business with heavy taxes. The Nazis did soak big business with heavy taxes. The act of October 16, 1934 removed the business tax exemption for many types of businesses and increased the progressivity of the business taxes. An act of August 27, 1936 raised the general business tax rate from 20% to 25% and it raised the general business tax to 30% for each year thereafter. On July 25, 1938 corporate profits of more than 100,000 Reichmarks per year were subjected to an additional tax of 35% with that rising to 40% for each year thereafter. On March 20, 1939, the Nazis imposed an excess profits tax. In four years, Nazis had raised taxes to approximately one fourth of the national income.

Obama hopes to drastically curtail large profits from securities transactions. The Nazis did this too. The Loan Stock Law of December 4, 1934 virtually confiscated all dividends over six percent (or in some cases eight percent) by ordering the beneficiaries of stock dividends to invest those monies in state bonds. Even this was deemed to be too generous to the rich. The original promise to pay these stockholders in cash or other bonds was revoked in 1937 through the issuance of tax certificates which bore no interest at all, and beyond that, the owners of these tax certificates could not use them to pay their income taxes or their capital profits tax. They could only use the tax certificates beginning in April 1952, and even then, they could only use the tax certificates in installments. The free movement of private capital almost completely ended under Nazi rule.

Obama talks like a Marxist. Almost everyone except Marxists, writing when the Nazis were in power, said that the Nazis acted like Marxists. Judge Harmon Black, in his 1938 book, If I Were a Jew, noted that the actions of the Nazis in power were essentially those of Bolsheviks: “…the sweeping control that the state has established over the conduct of business -- profits, prices, production, expansion of plant and equipment, distribution, exports and imports, banking and credit -- without regard for private interests, if they happen to conflict with state policy, is pleasing to millions of former Communists.” Vera Micheles Dean in her 1939 book, Europe in Retreat, written before the Second World War began, said that the Nazis had introduced into Germany a form of graduated Bolshevism. M. Fodor wrote: “It was mostly under Doctor Goebbel’s and Doctor Ley’s influence that National Socialist Germany has become increasingly a socialist state where the capitalist had only a very sorry role to fulfill” and “Doctor Ley has acted as a true socialist (in the Bolshevik sense) on the labor front.”

In 1941, former Nazi boss of Danzig, Hermann Rauschning, wrote that the last part of the German Revolution was Nazism, which was just as much a realization of Marxist as of nationalist ideas, and he notes that the only ones who refuse to admit this are supporters of Marxist theories and Nazis themselves. Karl Lowenstein in the 1940 book, Governments of Continental Europe, writes that there was a convergence in Bolshevism and National Socialism regarding private property, and that this was clear long before Hitler and Stalin became allies. The Nazis were drawn to Marxist ideals just like Obama is drawn to Marxist ideals.

Any American should be very worried about our nation drifting toward totalitarianism, whether we call that totalitarianism Nazism or Marxism. Seven years ago Senator Obama expressed concern that America had been moving toward Nazism. If Obama is elected president, and if he is able to implement his economic program, America will move toward economic Nazism. Socialist totalitarianism is always the same. It never works and it always ends in disaster.

-- Posted by mobushwhacker on Sun, Nov 2, 2008, at 10:45 AM

I heard something on the radio that brought a tear to my eye: a Nader for President commercial. True, it was 5:20 am and Coast to Coast AM was on the air. But, it was on 960 KZIM, that bastian of neoconism.

Guess there is hope in this election afterall!

There is a lot of talk amongst libertarians about casting ballots for Obama. The thought process is that whoever wins the election, the economic climate is so bad that there will be much voter discontent resulting in a Republican surge in '10, much like that of '94, and the Legislative Branch will return to Republican power.

Historically, the taxpayer is best served by a Democrat President and a Republican House and Senate.

Seems like just another means to an end to me so I will be voting for Bob Barr.

Any takers on that End the Fed rally in St. Louis on 11/22? Hilleco?

-- Posted by Lumpy on Sun, Nov 2, 2008, at 10:49 AM

What's Going On?


What's Going On?

Jim Kirwan


Yesterday Philip Berg asked the US Supreme Court to delay the election on Tuesday, in order to verify Obama's qualifications to be the president of this country. There are only two qualifications one is an age requirement, the other is that the candidate must be an American citizen.

"The U.S. Supreme Court is being asked to help the nation avoid a constitutional crisis by halting Tuesday's election until Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama documents his eligibility to run for the top office in the nation.

Democratic attorney Philip Berg had filed a lawsuit alleging Obama is ineligible to be president because of possible birth in Kenya, but as WND reported, a federal judge dismissed the complaint claiming Berg lacks standing to bring the action.

The 34-page memorandum that accompanied the court order from Judge R. Barclay Surrick concluded ordinary citizens can't sue to ensure that a presidential candidate actually meets the constitutional requirements of the office.

Instead, Surrick said Congress could determine "that citizens, voters, or party members should police the Constitution's eligibility requirements for the Presidency," but that it would take new laws to grant individual citizens that ability.

"Until that time," Surrick says, "voters do not have standing to bring the sort of challenge that Plaintiff attempts to bring."

The issue of Obama's eligibility first got traction among Internet bloggers and later was heightened when several campaigns were launched to determine whether a "certificate of live birth" posted on the Internet by the Obama campaign was valid. The issue gained more attention when Berg told radio talk show icon Michael Savage he had an admission from Obama's grandmother that she was at his birth ­ in Kenya. "This is a question of who has standing to stand up for our Constitution," Berg told Jeff Schreiber of America's Right blog. "If I don't have standing, if you don't have standing, if your neighbor doesn't have standing to ask whether or not the likely next president of the United States the most powerful man in the entire world ­ is eligible to be in that office in the first place, then who does?"" (1)

It would not appear to be feasible at this late date to postpone the presidential election; which is why this should all have been settled long before now. Hundreds of millions of dollars have been raised, and two years have been spent on this candidacy: apparently without ever checking on the questions that surround Obama's validity and now the grandmother (that witness) is dying.

So just like George W. Bush who "became" president while still A.W.O.L. from the Texas Air National Guard, during the Vietnam War ­ it appears that the Democratic Party is willing to violate the Constitutional provision against having a president that is not an American citizen. The Republicans broke the separation of powers provisions in the Constitution when they invited the Supreme Court in to "rule" on the Florida vote in 2000: a matter that belonged to the Congress, where it was supposed to be settled but they got away with that and "the people" didn't even whimper.

So now maybe both parties find it necessary to break the settled laws of the country in order to get one of their tarnished candidates selected as absolute ruler. Thanks to that 12-12-2000 decision the lower courts no longer actually have any legal standing when it comes to jury duty; because the highest court in the land continues to operate as if they did not break the law themselves and this translates into the fact that all the courts in the country are technically no longer in compliance with the same laws they are supposedly responsible for overseeing and adjudicating. Try telling the judge this, the next time you're called for Jury Duty because most so-called "judges" have no real answer to this "problem."

However: even stranger-if any of these questions had even the most remote chance of "being true" then where the hell are the Republicans-that would be the same party that demanded the Impeachment of Bill Clinton and spent $65 million of our money to try and make that stick. Yet now, with McCain in big trouble: Why have the Republicans not said one word officially about this potential challenge to the candidate that has bedeviled them no end? Why not!

This entire "issue-non-issue" stinks to high heaven: All because this nation can apparently no longer tell the difference between the truth and the routine lies that have come to be a daily requirement of the government and most politicians at all levels.


1) Supreme's Asked to Halt Tuesday's Vote


-- Posted by mobushwhacker on Sun, Nov 2, 2008, at 11:11 AM

Mr Goodbody

I'm wondering if Mr Allen has approved your cut and paste campaigning for him. I don't know the man from adam's apple but I am beginning to intensely dislike him because of you.

-- Posted by BABE on Sun, Nov 2, 2008, at 11:11 AM

The one thing that concerns me is that I hear so many people say they aren't going to vote at all. I really hope that even though our choices for president aren't what we hoped for and some think that it is a hopeless situation that they go vote. If you don't want a certain person in office you really need to go and vote against that person, at least then you have a right to complain if your choice doesn't get in office.


-- Posted by Aggiefan/Twiggy on Sun, Nov 2, 2008, at 11:12 AM


By Marsha West

November 1, 2008



It’s no big secret that many in the media are unethical and dishonest smear merchants. Americans have put up with these corrupt, insulting and, frankly, blatantly biased journalists for decades. Most people freely admit that they’re being fed partial-truths, boldfaced lies, distractions, diversions and deception by the elite media. In other words, they’re being bamboozled by a group of men and women who believe most Americans don’t have the brains of a gnat so they need clear-thinkers who are smarter, wiser and better informed to do the thinking for them.

There’s a clash of worldviews going on in America – the Left vs. the Right -- and it appears the Right could lose the battle. Radical leftists have infiltrated politics, the judiciary, universities, public education, journalism, and mainline churches. While this planned take-over of America has been going on, most folks have been collapsed in their La-Z-Boy recliners watching reality shows and sports on their wide screen TVs, doing almost nothing to stop it.

Wake up America! The Left has plans to change this nation in ways you can’t imagine.

Because we’re in a hot presidential race you’d assume the mainstream media (MSM) would be asking the candidates probing, challenging, get to the bottom of it questions about their policies and vision for the country, and how they plan to accomplish their goals. For example, exactly where is the money coming from to pay for all the proposed “change?” America is broke!

What gripes me is that there are a number of important stories out there people need to hear about candidate Barack “I am my brother’s keeper” Obama. Instead, the MSM has deliberately squashed stories that could make the Democratic presidential nominee look bad! Clearly, we have a partisan press – and they’re doing everything possible to put Obama and company (Pelosi/Reid/Frank/ Dodd/Schumer) in power!

OneNewsNow.com reported that the Pew Research Center’s Project for Excellence in Journalism found that “57 percent of the print and broadcast stories about John McCain were negative, while only 14 percent were positive. The study concludes that 29 percent of the mainstream media's coverage of Barack Obama was negative.”[1]

Thankfully, not all news sources hide the truth from the public. On Oct. 27 FoxNews.com displayed this headline:

Obama, in 2001 Interview, Lamented Failure of Civil Rights Movement to Redistribute Wealth

The report states that during a public radio interview [2] Barack Obama discussed his dedication to “redistributing the wealth.” Not surprising since he admitted his intentions to the now famous Joe the plumber. And speaking of Joe the Innocent, the mean-spirited media set out to destroy Joe Wurzelbacher for asking a simple question of Crowned Prince Obama. How dare a low-life plumber ask a probing question about taxes! And for asking His Majesty a simple question, Joe has been maligned, marginalized, and had his private life put under a microscope. What I find amazing is that the press, with their unlimited resources, failed to dig up Obama’s radio interview – it took blogger Pierre Legrand to find it! Does the word suppress spring to mind?

The moment Joe came into the picture the MSM got busy. They dug up a lien and other personal info and quickly broadcast it all over the country hoping to discredit him. The public has no business knowing about Joe’s personal life! Joe is not running for Plumber of the United States! The press viciously smeared an American citizen for tossing out a legitimate tax question to a Democratic presidential candidate. Obama’s reply got them shaking in their boots! He was caught on video saying that he wants to spread the wealth around. Anyone with half a brain knows that those who advocate spreading the wealth are socialists!

Socialists use the long arm of government to take from the rich, which is defined by the government, and gives to the poor, also defined by the government. “Wealth and power,” explains wikipedia.com “are distributed more evenly, although there is considerable disagreement among socialists over how, and to what extent this could be achieved.” What it boils down to is that socialism punishes high achievers. It kills the human spirit. So how is this good for America?

Because Americans have been dozing in front of their TV sets, the American Dream is about to slip through their fingers.

In 1968 a young man escaped Communist Cuba and a few months later was in America to stay. Manuel Alvarez, Jr. wrote a letter to the editor of the Richmond Times-Dispatch and offered this sobering account of how Communism came about in Cuba: [3]

“In the late 1950s, most Cubans thought Cuba needed a change, and they were right. So when a young leader came along, every Cuban was at least receptive. When the young leader spoke eloquently and passionately and denounced the old system, the press fell in love with him. They never questioned who his friends were or what he really believed in. When he said he would help the farmers and the poor and bring free medical care and education to all, everyone followed. When he said he would bring justice and equality to all, everyone said ‘Praise the Lord.’ And when the young leader said, ‘I will be for change and I'll bring you change,’ everyone yelled, ‘Viva Fidel!’ But nobody asked about the change, so by the time the executioner's guns went silent the people's guns had been taken away. By the time everyone was equal, they were equally poor, hungry, and oppressed. By the time everyone received their free education it was worth nothing. By the time the press noticed, it was too late, because they were now working for him. (Emphasis added)

Now, I’m not saying that, if elected, Barack Obama will become a communist dictator like Fidel Castro. I’m simply pointing out that in their desperation the Cuban people allowed themselves to be taken in by an eloquent, passionate young leader who spoke of bringing “change” to Cuba.

According to the Heritage Foundation, 30 Senators, including Obama and Biden, would receive an A in Socialism 101, meaning that they vote the socialist line 90% of the time. There are 17 Senators that would receive a B.

Moving on to Barack Obama’s radio interview. In it he said our Constitution is flawed because it doesn’t order government to redistribute economic power and resources. He also said he believes the civil rights movement failed because it didn’t work toward redistributing income. Sen. Obama, who has the most liberal voting record in the Senate, wants a fundamental change in America -- a radical left wing change! In a word, socialism. He made it clear in the interview that he’s for “redistribution.” And that’s not all, folks. He wants to change the Constitution. Mark my words. If he gets away with it, he’ll use it against American citizens. Don’t believe me? Listen to the interview.

As the President of the United States, Barack Obama will be able to take this country in a new direction -- and it is not the direction the majority of Americans want to go in. On the contrary, the American people say they want their government to focus on economic growth, to help small business, and reduce the size of government. They want tax breaks not tax increases! Most folks already pay hefty taxes – property, oil, gas, electricity, food, clothing, luxury items, there’s even a death tax! If this country goes the away of socialism, consumers will pay far more than they do today.

The interview is a real eye-opener. The “inescapable conclusion,” wrote Gary Bauer, “is that Barack Obama is a committed socialist, and he is running for president with the goal of fundamentally changing America in ways that the Founding Fathers never imagined.”

Is the audio of the interview just another ridiculous rumor, as his supporters are claiming? Hardly. Obama’s voice is clear, his words concise. So the obvious question is: Why is the Obama audio not all over the major media outlets? Why not get it out there and let people hear the words of the man who may be the next leader of the free world? Sorry, I forgot. The MSM has been in the tank for Obama all along. And if Obama’s true intentions are exposed, people may vote for Sen. John McCain or another candidate -- or not at all. The MSM fear rocking the boat. With this election neck and neck, their boy could lose.

Kirsten Powers recently wrote an editorial for the New York Post that was a breath of fresh air. Powers is a liberal and yet she thought the public should be informed about Sen. Joe “jobs is a 3 letter word” Biden’s latest faux pas.

"Mark my words,” he said in an ominous tone, “it will not be six months before the world tests Barack Obama like they did John Kennedy. The world is looking. We're about to elect a brilliant 47-year-old senator president of the United States of America. Remember I said it standing here if you don't remember anything else I said. Watch, we're gonna have an international crisis, a generated crisis, to test the mettle of this guy. I can give you at least four or five scenarios from where it might originate," Biden told his supporters, mentioning the Middle East and Russia as possibilities. "And he's gonna need help. And the kind of help he's gonna need is, he's gonna need you - not financially to help him - we're gonna need you to use your influence, your influence within the community, to stand with him. Because it's not gonna be apparent initially, it's not gonna be apparent that we're right."

Powers wrote in her piece:

“But no one imagined even in a worse-case scenario such a spectacular bomb as telling donors Sunday to ‘gird your loins’ because a young president Obama will be tested by an international crisis just like young President John Kennedy was.

“Scary? You betcha! But somehow, not front-page news.” [4]

Wow. A liberal reported honestly on what was said about wet-behind-the-ears Obama by his running mate. Moreover, she expressed that what Biden said should have been front-page news! Maybe there’s hope!

Anchorman Dan Rather agreed with Powers that Biden’s warning was indeed newsworthy. "Certainly if Sarah Palin had said this,” he confessed, “it would be above the fold in most newspapers today."

Even Rather, who’s a bigtime liberal, made mention that the MSM is not doing its job! He admits they’d go after Gov. Palin if she had said anything close to what Joe the Senator did. That’s the media elite for ya!

Our esteemed press also went after WFTV anchor Barbara West after she asked Faux-pas Joe some tough questions. As a result the station is being blacklisted! Like Joe the plumber, the MSM demonized West. Does this sort of treatment not frighten you? It should! In California Gov. Palin hangs in effigy from a noose “in the spirit of Halloween.”

I wonder, why do the American people put up the MSM’s calculated destruction of people’s lives? Their vicious attacks on Sarah Palin started the moment she stepped out on stage. Some in the press have gone to extremes to dig up dirt on the Palin family. Without a shred of evidence the popular leftwing smear blog, DailyKos.com, reported that Sarah is actually the grandmother of her newborn son Trig, which is an outright lie! Sick, isn’t it? But what can you expect from liberals that detest anyone who disagrees with their left-wing ideology? Their motto? Seek, destroy and gloat.

There is a Mt. Olympus of dirt to be uncovered on Sen. Barrack Obama, yet the hit and run media are too busy trying to discredit Sarah Palin. Take for example what happened when they discovered that the GOP spent 150,000 on clothing for the Palin family. Now, keep in mind that if Sarah weren’t dressed to the nines she’d be called *************. But wait! The press already dubbed her ************* for wearing hoop earrings--gasp!--when she accompanied Sen. McCain to Mississippi to speak about Hurricane Gustav. Sarah said the clothes are “Not my property.” Her new wardrobe will be donated to charity.

The Pew Research Center study mentioned above shows Gov. Palin “has drawn three times as much coverage as Democratic vice-presidential nominee Joe Biden since the political conventions. It also concludes that 39 percent of the print and broadcast stories about Palin were negative, while 28 percent were positive and 33 percent were neutral.”[5]

While the MSM were busy letting the public in on the substantial cost of Sara Palin’s new wardrobe, the McCain campaign accused the LA Times of suppressing a videotape of Barack Obama toasting Palestinian Liberation Organization Spokesman and Columbia professor Rashid Khalidi. (Read “What You Should Know About Rashid Khalidi and Barack Obama” by Katie Fazazza) Because of an alleged “promise that was made to the source” the LA Times says it will not release the tape.

The press also failed to report that Obama pal William Ayers, who was a part of the Weather Underground, the domestic terrorist group that bombed the U.S. Capitol, the Pentagon and the New York police headquarters, was more than just an acquaintance. In an interview Ayers told the NY Times that America makes him “want to puke.” Well, Bill Ayres would make most Americans want to puke, if they were aware of his past. Problem is, the MSM refuse to report the whole story! Shouldn’t the public know if Ayers radical left-wing views rubbed off on Obama?

Here’s a transcript of what Ayers said in 2002, the very same week he worked with Obama: [6]

“I considered myself partly an anarchist then. I consider myself partly an anarchist now. I mean, I'm as much an anarchist as I am a Marxist, which is to say, you know, I find a lot of the ideas in anarchism appealing. We create felons by having these kind of archaic, puritan drug laws that make no sense whatsoever in any logical way. So in that sense, I still feel like kind of an anarchist. I don't feel like the rules apply. And if they don't apply, I don't feel like you should follow them. Is one of those regrets that I took extreme measures against the United States at a time of tremendous crisis? No, it is not. I don't regret that. There is a struggle over various religious fundamentalism's, Jihad being the most visible. But the religious fundamentalism of the Christians and the Jews is equally troubling.” (Watch the video here or go to footnote [7])

Even though Obama claimed Bill Ayers was just “a guy who lives in my neighborhood” and “He’s not somebody who I exchange ideas with on a regular basis” he chose to endorse Ayers’s book in the Dec. 21, 1997 Chicago Tribune and was mentioned by name in the book itself.

FoxNews.com reported: [8]

“Featured next to a smiling photograph of himself, then-State Senator Obama called Ayers' book, ‘A Kind and Just Parent: Children of the Juvenile Court,’ a ‘searing and timely account of the juvenile court system, and the courageous individuals who rescue hope from despair.’"

And while we’re on the subject of Ayers, he and his terrorist wife Bernardine Dohrn, hosted a small meet-the-candidate event in 1995 for Barack Obama.

But of course it’s far more important for the American people to know how much the GOP spent on Palin’s campaign attire than it is for us to know that Obama hob-knobbed with a self-admitted terrorist/anarchist.

In her article “McCain's Prospects Depend on Telling Truth About Obama” Phyllis Schlafly pointed out: [9]

“The media are piling on against John McCain and some pundits are predicting it's all over, that Barack Obama has somehow won the election. As the old saying goes, it's not over until the fat lady sings, and it's high time for the fat lady to sing about Obama's scary agenda and the many reasons why it is too risky to elect him President.

“We need to hear more about ACORN, the special-interest group that would like to steal this election by registering people who are not eligible to vote, such as registering ghost voters in Nevada under the names of the Dallas Cowboys. Obama's years of close association with ACORN need to be known to the public.”

We also need to hear that when Obama was a part-time director of The Woods Fund of Chicago, it gave $75,000 to ACORN. The group is now under investigation for voter fraud in 12 states.

Schlafly brings to light that Bill Ayers has a “really scary plan to remake the curriculum of public schools in order to turn kids into radical socialists like himself. Obama helped deliver big bucks to Ayers' radical education project in Chicago.”

Obama delivered $50,000 to the Small Schools Network that was founded by Ayers and run by Ayers’ friend, Michael Klonsky, the former chairman of the Communist Party (Marxist-Leninist) which is an offshoot of the Students for a Democratic Society, a 1960 far left organization.

More from Schlafly:

“Obama has already introduced one bill in the U.S. Senate called ‘Positive Behavior for Effective Schools Act,’ which would implement Ayers' social-outcome notions, and another to teach kindergartners Al Gore's propaganda about climate change. Voters should be reminded that Obama has called for making ‘sure your child can speak Spanish.’"

Do voters know about Ayers’ plan to remake the public schools? Have they heard about Obama’s “Positive Behavior for Effective Schools Act”? It’s all about liberal indoctrination of students. (Read about it here or go to footnote [10]) Is this what parents want for their kids? Let me assure you, most don’t! This explains why so many parents are pulling their kids out of public indoctrination centers and spending the money to put them in private schools or, if possible, choosing to homeschool the precious ones.

The connection between pals Barack and Bill is not out in the open. Andrew McCarthy of National Review Online wrote that: [11]

“Despite all manner of stonewalling by Obama, Ayers and their allies…commentators have doggedly pursued information about the Chicago Annenberg Challenge. That’s the $150+ million ‘education reform’ piggy bank substantially controlled in the nineties by Ayers and Obama, who doled out tens of millions of dollars to Leftist radicals — radicals who, like their patrons, understood that control over our institutions, and especially our schools, was a surer and less risky way to spread their revolution than blowing up buildings and mass-murdering American soldiers. As Diamond observes, in a 2006 speech in Venezuela, with Leftist strongman Hugo Chavez looking on, Ayers exhorted: ‘Teaching invites transformations, it urges revolutions small and large. La educacion es revolucion!’

“Be clear on that much: Whether clothed as a terrorist or an academic, Ayers has made abundantly clear in his public statements, both before and after he established a working relationship and mutual admiration society with Obama, that he remains a revolutionary fueled by hatred of the United States. And while Obama now ludicrously pleads ignorance about Ayers’s terrorism — the terrorism that made the unabashed Ayers an icon of the Left — understand that this rabid anti-Americanism is the common denominator running through Obama’s orbit of influences.”

And to think, Barack Obama may be the next president of the United States. He may not pal around with Bill Ayers in public or let him sleep in the Lincoln bedroom if he’s elected, but dimes to donuts the remorseless terrorist will advise the his friend on matters of state.

And what about Obama’s 20-year relationship with Rev. Jeremiah Wright? Wright’s warped theology had a huge impact on the man who would be prez. Rev. Wright espouses Liberation Theology, which is opposed to biblical theology.

“Now, the problem here,” says Christian apologist Hank Hanegraaff, “is that Jeremiah Wright is communicating this Liberation theology, which is directly opposed to biblical theology, but in hysterical manners, and that was picked up by the media and they played this clip of him talking about the HIV virus being something that was invented by the government and it was a way of committing genocide against people of color.

”Obviously this is hysterical and ridiculous, but this is only the tip of the iceberg. They've played it but they were not realizing that there's a theology under the iceberg and that theology is not Christian theology. This is a theology that has obviously very much impacted Barack Obama…So I say again that the problem you have is that the notion being communicated is a theology that doesn't help harmonize the class struggle but actually accentuates it, particularly when you use these kinds of shrill comments which have no basis in reality such that you start believing that the government has some kind of oppressive force that's using HIV to oppress people.” [12] (Watch the videos here or here or go to footnote [13] & [14])

Barack Obama attended Rev. Wright’s church twice a month for 20 years…and he didn’t witness one of his hate sermons?

If McCain loses on Tuesday, America will go the way of socialism. That’s why it’s imperative for voters to be reminded that Obama intends to “spread the wealth around” by giving people who don’t pay taxes a fat check. Christians should know that Barack Obama is the most extreme pro-abortion candidate ever to seek the presidency. (For more on his frightening abortion views read my article “Barbaric Obama, God’s Choice?” [15])

Sen. Obama opposed:

Legislation to protect children who are born alive.

State amendments for traditional marriage.

The Defense of Marriage Act." DOMA, that protects Americans from activist judges who want to force other states to accept homosexual “marriage.”

Obama will:

Raise taxes on small businesses, which will kill jobs.

Unionize small businesses.

Enact the Freedom of Choice Act.

Eliminate federal funding from pro-life pregnancy centers that provide alternatives for abortion.

Cut the per child tax credit in half.

Appoint liberal judges, like Ruth Bader Ginsburg, to the U.S. Supreme Court. (Two judges, 76 and 88, will retire soon.)

If Democrats get control of Congress they intend to:

“use the force of Big Government to shut down Christian and conservative talk radio with the Fairness Doctrine. Pastors will be gagged by ‘hate crimes’ legislation. … Liberal labor bosses will get sweeping new powers, including stripping the right to a secret ballot from workers. Radical leftwing groups like ACORN and Planned Parenthood will get more of your tax dollars to promote leftwing candidates and causes. And all the while, Big Media will hail the “new Great Society” as Joe the Plumber is taxed to “spread the wealth” for socialized health care and ‘tax cuts’ to those who don’t pay income taxes.”[16]

Oh yes, and our liberal legislators want to take away the American people’s 401(K) plans and impose a new “savings tax.”

If Obama loses “it would be very, very, very dramatic out there” liberal commentator James Carville warned. “A lot of Democrats would have a great deal of angst and anger.”

And if McCain loses? Republicans will handle the loss with grace and dignity -- and without violence.

Public confidence is eroding. People are finally tiring of the cold calculated media bias and being treated like morons. The proof is in the pudding. According to the Drudge Report:

“CBSNEWS w/Couric shed a half a million viewers, falling from 6.4 million to 5.9 million; ABCNEWS dropped from 8.1 million to 7.6 million; NBCNEWS slumped from 8.2 million to 7.8 million.”

Fox News commentator, Bill O’Reilly, boasts that his viewer ship has increased. He’s right! Perhaps because his reports are fair, accurate, and unbiased -- with no holds barred hard hitting “discussions.” Folks want the unfettered truth, not lies and deception!

When voting Nov. 4th, ask yourself:

Will America prosper under Barack Obama?

Will Obama help the economy or strangle it by raising taxes?

Will Obama’s economic policies add or kill jobs?

Will companies stay in America or leave because of regulation and high taxes?

Will American be safer?

One last comment. Our Founding Fathers did not want “a government big enough to give you everything you want, because such a government would be big enough to take away everything you have.”


1- Analyst: Media attempting to defuse Palin's future, By Jim Brown

2- Obama Bombshell Redistribution of Wealth Audio Uncovered

3- Letter to the editor of Richmond Times-Dispatch written By Manuel Alvarez, JR.


5- Analyst: Media attempting to defuse Palin's future, By Jim Brown

6- New Information About Ayers and His Association With Obama, By Bill O’Reilly, Talking Points, Fox News

7- Ayers Audio From Same Week He Worked With Obama

8- Obama Praised 'Searing and Timely' Book by Ayers. FoxNews.com

9- McCain's Prospects Depend on Telling Truth About Obama

10- Obama’s Revolutionary Positive Behavior for Effective Schools Act of 2007, By Marinka Peschmann

11, Why Won’t Obama Talk About Columbia? : The years he won’t discuss may explain the Ayers tie he keeps lying about. By Andrew C. McCarthy

12, Hank Speaks Out On Liberation Theology, Hank Hanegraaff

13, Jeremiah Wright - Obamah’s mentor – hate speech, Youtube.com

14, Rev. Jeremiah Wright blames U.S. for 9/11

15, Barbaric Obama, God’s Choice? By Marsha West

16, Campaign for Working Families End of the Day Report, Wednesday, October 22, 2008, By Gary Bauer. Definitions: Anarchist, Marxist, Capitalism (Free Market economy):

© 2008 Marsha West - All Rights Reserved

-- Posted by mobushwhacker on Sun, Nov 2, 2008, at 11:18 AM

ER frustrations

Triage doesn't necessarily mean that all patients must be seen. Good triage nurses can evaluate the medical situation and determine whether the person meets the criteria for ER admission at all. A patient would have to tell a mighty tall tale of medical need when taking an ambulance to get a free bottle of tylenol. Hospitals do have the privilege of denying non emergency admissions to ER. So why don't they do so more often?

-- Posted by BABE on Sun, Nov 2, 2008, at 11:46 AM


You have long claimed on this board that you are an old-time Republican who is now disgusted with both parties and will probably not vote. But, unlike posters who claim the same, your posts just drip of democrat support. There is nothing more pitiful than a closet democrat.

-- Posted by BABE on Sun, Nov 2, 2008, at 12:04 PM

From the No "Mo" Reparations blog:


I think this is on everyone’s mind. It’s really not hard to figure out, if you study his behavior and the behavior of his party.

They want total control over this nation and it’s people. They want to be dictators…..plain and simple.

Remember the comment that Joe Biden made? About how we were going to have an ‘international crisis’, six months after Obama was elected? He went on to say, that they, would need our support. Why? Because, at the time their course of action would seem inappropriate. However, we would later see the wisdom of it………..or something to that nature.

This was a flag to me as soon as he said it! I’ll tell you what I think it means: a false flag terrorist attack by Obama!

The inappropriate action would be martial law and the elimination of the Constitution; a South African dictatorship will ensue. This is how I see it and he’s crazy enough to do it!

I see Obama as a terrorist. He associates with them and he hates this nation. He hates traditional America. He hates white people. He hates the Constitution. He hates the Founding Fathers. He hates Christianity and it’s values ( Don’t talk to me about how he’s a Christian, he’s not. He sat in Wright’s church for the message of Black Supremacy.) He hates free speech and he hates firearms!

When he’s elected he’ll go after free speech in the form of the Fairness Act and the Hate Speech Act. Anything he or his party doesn’t like will be classified as hate speech and you’ll go to jail!

Don’t fool yourself, Obama will go after people who own firearms. He’ll have law enforcement or the military go door to door and take your guns!

I was talking to a gentleman the other day and he was worried about this.

He commented “ What will I do when they come for my guns?”. I replied “ You’ll either hand them over or shoot the one trying to take them.”. He agreed, but said he couldn’t believe that he was worried about this happening…….in America.

Well believe it people………it’s coming! You want change? You’ll **** sure have it!

For those of Traditional Americans and Southern Americans, we may have to bear arms to stay out of prison! We may have to fight, because we’ll be classified as traitors!

Why? Because we believe in God, The Constitution and The Founding Father’s vision for this nation. But worst of all, we believe in freedom.

That alone is enough for us to be classified as traitors, by Obama!

-- Posted by mobushwhacker on Sun, Nov 2, 2008, at 12:25 PM

First I ever heard anything about Marshal Law and really don't think Bush would threaten it or could have gotten away with it; would be interested in a source. Maybe they were just looking for someone to blame for their lack of courage or conviction.

-- Posted by D'oh on Sun, Nov 2, 2008, at 1:00 PM

In case some of you folks were not aware of this law.

"Leave to vote

Missouri law requires employers to give workers up to three hours off to vote if their scheduled shift does not give the employee three continuous hours. off duty while the polls are open. The request must be made before Election Day. No deduction from pay is allowed for the absence."

Don't let your employer intimidate you. Vote!

-- Posted by BABE on Sun, Nov 2, 2008, at 1:16 PM

RE: Martial law

Once you take your head out of the sand, enjoy this video...



If you change your mind about the End the Fed rally, let me know. I lurk on this board, but most of my time is spent talking rationally about the future of this country with the reasonable, freedom loving individuals over at Campaign For Liberty.

Happy early Guy Fawkes Day!

-- Posted by Lumpy on Sun, Nov 2, 2008, at 1:19 PM

Uh...mobushwhacker? Are you related to Mr. Goodbody? ;-)

Glad you're back and okay, BABE!

-- Posted by gurusmom on Sun, Nov 2, 2008, at 1:19 PM


How are you haven't heard from you in a little while. Hope all is going well for you and Pops.


-- Posted by Aggiefan/Twiggy on Sun, Nov 2, 2008, at 1:23 PM


Convenient Care and ERexpress do solicit patients for minor care for hours they are open. If you meet their criteria for care with them vs the actual ER then you will be sitting in the same waiting room with the others. But these departments, even though in the same ER, are separate facilities. So patients are being called back to treatment rooms by different staff. Some folks may count up the number of those who came in behind them but they are still waiting. There is no way of knowing who is going to the minor department or the actual ER. No matter the designation of care the patient still spends one hour in treatment rooms.

-- Posted by BABE on Sun, Nov 2, 2008, at 1:36 PM


OK, I watched the video and did some research; still don't buy it. I found far more sites that refuted it than supported it. I think Bush would have been impeached had he tried it.

-- Posted by D'oh on Sun, Nov 2, 2008, at 1:50 PM


Would appreciate any additional information regarding this. I have to go put up into the woods and put up some purple paint and signs and move some downed trees, but will check back later.

-- Posted by D'oh on Sun, Nov 2, 2008, at 1:55 PM

TESTING: For Demons in the Bog...other than myself!


Welcome back, and hope you weren't sick; if that was the case, hope you're feeling better. Now, er, about the avatar change, if it worked:

DISCLAIMER to C-Babe: The "Closet Smoker" photo of His Lowness, the Essence of B.O., in no way implies a family relationship between said photo and your precious Smoking Baby; nor does it suggest similar problems in producing proof of U.S. citizenship!!

FULL DISCLOSURE STATEMENT & PC POLIZEI INQUIRY: I, luvable ole HERRball, am an "out-of-closet" smoker. Therefore, begging the question, does clearly stating that I will not belch & vote for B.O. make me an automatic "racist" (IAW the lefts' moronic definition thereof) and a hypocritical smoker? If so, then I declare myself a proud racist-hypocrite-homophobe-unpatriotic taxpaying-Bible-hugging/gun-caressing-conspiratorial-etc-etc BIGOT!!

So, there it is. I feel, or emote, better coming clean. After all, it is Sunday...so I should find something to repent about!


Sorry to disappoint you, per your post a few days ago. But honest, no "chit" (the paper thing...a little CYA action there) saila, even if you never was a saila...I'll try to clean up my act and restore my goofy ole caught-in-the-headlights Kraut dude soon!

This Dysfunctional Mess was brought to you by Curmudgeons, Inc, Get-Out-The-Smokes Div.

-- Posted by Herr_Hauptmann_DES on Sun, Nov 2, 2008, at 1:56 PM


Thanks. I had to go to my daughter's home to await my furnace being repaired. While there I broke a small bone in my foot and my return home was delayed.

But I did have fun on Halloween. I had bought the grandkids one of those three feet scary butlers that holds the candy for the trick and treaters. He is motion activated and rolled his eyes and spoke when they put their hand in the bowl. We put him on the front porch. Several little ones ran off and their parents had to chase them down. I'm as bad as Herr. All went well until about 9:00 when some 'big' kids raided the bowl and then had the nerve to ring the doorbell to say the bowl was empty. My daughter had seen them and gave them a lecture about being too old to trick or treat if their parents did not need to accompany them. Thankfully her home was not vandalized during the night. giggle

-- Posted by BABE on Sun, Nov 2, 2008, at 2:06 PM

Me'Lange, just a silly thought: the hospitals might consider adding to their non-emergency services list a statement saying something like, 'If you have a non-emergency, your wait for care will be 4-6 hours--no exceptions. If this is not acceptable, please make an appointment with a doctor for treatment.'

I know, it is silly, but it might convince some 'patients' to weigh whether or not their 'cold' or 'sore throat' is worth that much of their time.

Hi, Twiggy. As a matter of fact, I've been trying since yesterday morning to convince Pops that he needs to go to the ER. He's obviously been filling up with fluids for several days now, has fallen once (dizzy/light-headed/weak). At this point in time, I know the symptoms might mean he's in trouble, even though he believes he just 'has a cold.' If he won't let me take him to St. Francis today, I'll call his cardiologist first thing in the morning. Just pray for us, dear.

-- Posted by gurusmom on Sun, Nov 2, 2008, at 2:07 PM


I will be thinking of you and praying for you both. I do hope Pop's starts feeling better. Please keep me posted on how things are going.


-- Posted by Aggiefan/Twiggy on Sun, Nov 2, 2008, at 2:12 PM


Yes, one is initially evaluated by the same nursing staff whose only duty is to do so. When a patient is admitted to non-critical or critical then they are under the care of separate staff. Non critical patients see a physicians assistant. But the patients all sit in the same waiting room to be called back to enter separate double doors by separate staff.

-- Posted by BABE on Sun, Nov 2, 2008, at 2:15 PM

mo-bushwacker, who you think wants to read all your worthless ramblings?

-- Posted by jason37. on Sun, Nov 2, 2008, at 2:25 PM

They are my own, not influenced by the crap you two spew, sitting here by your computers 24/7.

Form your own opinions for a change and try keeping 98% of them to yourself and you won't come off as a constant POS.

-- Posted by jason37. on Sun, Nov 2, 2008, at 2:33 PM

How about you being a sore loser, 2 days before the election?

Well make that 2 months.

The people that come here are intelligent people, they don't need either of us trying to influence their vote.

Go door to door or man the phones for McCain if you are that big of a supporter.

But you constantly preach on deaf ears as you are doing right now.

-- Posted by jason37. on Sun, Nov 2, 2008, at 2:47 PM

Hmmm. Seems like the cyber demons and bugs in the Bog are a little more subdued today.

Now watch. Since I just typed the above, I'll bet the site will try to cyber-shanghai me off to China, or somethin'. But, well, if I annoy 'em enough, perhaps they'll just dump me off in the Hawaiian Islands, or Indonesia, so I can grope around for my real Birth Certificate.

In the interim...anybody got a light?

-- Posted by Herr_Hauptmann_DES on Sun, Nov 2, 2008, at 3:04 PM


Sweetie Pie, just please hush before you make a bigger fool of yourself. giggle

-- Posted by BABE on Sun, Nov 2, 2008, at 3:06 PM

I read your posts like I do everyone else's and usually have no need to respond to such lopsided views.

I found it a total waste of time and waste of money for Palin to come to Cape Girardeau which is 70% Republican and I stated my belief w/o asking for a vote for any candidate.

This campaign has went on for 2 years and I doubt your posts would do anything but convince someone to vote for Obama.

You come across as a childish, blind, die hard Republican.

It will be ok really it will.

You can start peparing your Palin in '12 posts now if it will help you get through the next few days.

-- Posted by jason37. on Sun, Nov 2, 2008, at 3:20 PM

Just me...

You posted "Palin's visit to Cape G. caused an increase in donations and a morale boost to the area"

I must agree with Jason on this one. Palin's visit was just plain scary in that her supporters stared and cheered in a sort of "Jim Jones" trance. All of those Southeast Republicans were going to vote for McCain anyway, her visit just sort of threw opulence in our faces. Good for her, you bectcha, "wink, wink".

Debate....wonder if you have a view on McCain's anger issues. I think this is a valid point to consider. The leader of our country needs to be "all there", if you know what I mean.

-- Posted by Theorist on Sun, Nov 2, 2008, at 5:52 PM

Theorist: I feel the same way when I see the "Messiah" speak and his "followers" are in a trance.

Just the other day I told Twiggs you watch, the "messiah" lose and thaty all move in to Jim Jones's old place.

One warning, DON'T DRINK THE KOOL-AID. Aggie

-- Posted by Aggiefan/Twiggy on Sun, Nov 2, 2008, at 6:11 PM


But why would they follow Palin in such a manner. She can't deliver them from anything. She hasn't the skills, the intelligence, the possible power venue. Why Palin? Better question would be "Why did McCain choose her as his right hand "man". Of course we all know the answer, "He didn't, but the Republican powers did!" Doesn't that scare you? He does what ever they tell him to do, until he loses his temper.

-- Posted by Theorist on Sun, Nov 2, 2008, at 6:16 PM

Obama Tells SF Chronicle He will Bankrupt Coal Industry:


-- Posted by mobushwhacker on Sun, Nov 2, 2008, at 6:24 PM

I find it amusing that libs/dems seem more interested in talking about the Republican choice for VP instead of their own party's pick. Poor old Biden is seldom mentioned. giggle

-- Posted by BABE on Sun, Nov 2, 2008, at 6:26 PM

Well well, Obama is playing the race card in local ads now. Try to listen for the one of the man in Jackson meeting with his church group.

-- Posted by BABE on Sun, Nov 2, 2008, at 6:32 PM


Your ranting reeks of lunacy. Please calm down and think about why your so upset. What is the one thing you believe to be fact that is upsetting you most? Think this through and then research it on your own. I will even help...

-- Posted by Theorist on Sun, Nov 2, 2008, at 6:35 PM

Kiss my *** theorist.

-- Posted by mobushwhacker on Sun, Nov 2, 2008, at 6:37 PM


Lets see....Biden is a wonderful family man, from an Irish Catholic background. He doesn't imbibe, and he has a brilliant history in Congress.

Palin built a road (very expensive) to no where. Hmmmmmm....aaaaaaaaaaa......yeah

-- Posted by Theorist on Sun, Nov 2, 2008, at 6:43 PM

A newly posted video on YouTube captures Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama appearing to suggest that America after World War II had similarities to Nazi Germany.

In the video, Obama is on WBEZ radio in Chicago discussing the Supreme Court opinions on civil rights during the time America was dealing with Jim Crow laws.

He states, "You've got the doctrines of Nazism that we are fighting against, that start looking uncomfortably similar to what's going on back here at home."




Obama: 'Nazism … similar to what's going on' in U.S.

Democrat told radio station of difficulties for blacks in America


Posted: October 30, 2008

11:00 pm Eastern

© 2008 WorldNetDaily

A newly posted video on YouTube captures Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama appearing to suggest that America after World War II had similarities to Nazi Germany.

In the video, Obama is on WBEZ radio in Chicago discussing the Supreme Court opinions on civil rights during the time America was dealing with Jim Crow laws.

He states, "You've got the doctrines of Nazism that we are fighting against, that start looking uncomfortably similar to what's going on back here at home."

The video can be seen here:

As WND reported, Obama's comments on the same station at the same time suggested his disappointment that the U.S. Supreme Court never had gone beyond the constraints of the Constitution and established wealth redistribution plans.

In that tape, Obama is heard telling WBEZ in 2001 that "redistributive change" is needed, pointing to what he regarded as a failure of the U.S. Supreme Court under Chief Justice Earl Warren in its rulings on civil rights issues in the 1960s.


Now for Theorist, Swampeast Missouri and yes you to Hilleco, you're all hinting or insinuating that anyone who opposes Barack Obama is a racist, I'm tired of it, I'm tired of him trashing anyone and everyone that doesn't agree with him, he's untouchable, if you say anything about him your a racist.

The man is the biggest protected species in America right now, and I am watching an entire generation of people become brainswashed... so Theorist, Hillico, Swampeast Missouri again, everyone of you S.O.B.'s can kiss my Confederate, Missouri ***!

I'm sick of the whining, the defending the pushing of liberal agenda's down my throat, to hell with everyone of you cowardly , liberal cut throats.

Change is coming alright, and you bastards are going to be sorry when you see what Obama change really means.

-- Posted by mobushwhacker on Sun, Nov 2, 2008, at 6:44 PM


No reason to be "nasty". I am serious. Maybe I can help!

-- Posted by Theorist on Sun, Nov 2, 2008, at 6:44 PM

And you think Hussein is MORE qualified? Sir/Mame whatever you gender is, that is scary!!

I make sure that Twiggs and I have on our 3D glasses when he is on TV so we aren't hipnotized.

I would trust Gov. Palin before I trust Hussein.

You worried about McCains temper? That is ignorant. I have a temper, a hellova temper. I still can make rational decisions.

Twiggs is really mad at me becouse I put two holes in her brand new white bedsheet, I told her it was my Halloween costume. She said NOT. Aggie

-- Posted by Aggiefan/Twiggy on Sun, Nov 2, 2008, at 6:46 PM

Where you from Whacker?

And of course, you don't have to answer. It is just that you are so blindly biased. If you could listen, you might feel better. Give me an issue....

-- Posted by Theorist on Sun, Nov 2, 2008, at 6:58 PM

Apparently Now Blacks that Question Obama are "racist" as well...

Michelle tells African Press International...

"When API told her that our online news media was only relaying what the American Bloggers and other media outlets had discovered through their investigations, Mrs Obama was angered and she came out loud with the following: “African press International is supposed to support Africans and African-American view,” and she went to state that, “it is strange that API has chosen to support the racists against my husband. There is no shame in being adopted by a step father. All dirt has been thrown onto my husband’s face and yet he loves this country. My husband and I know that there is no law that will stop him from becoming the president, just because some American white racists are bringing up the issue of my husband’s adoption by His step father. The important thing here is where my husband’s heart is at the moment. I can tell the American people that My husband loves this country and

“his adoption never changed his love for this country. He was born in Hawaii, yes, and that gives him all the right to be an American citizen even though he was adopted by a foreigner; says Michelle Obama on telefon to API.”


Notice that she states that no law is going to keep her husband from becoming President.

-- Posted by mobushwhacker on Sun, Nov 2, 2008, at 7:05 PM

I haven't posted in a while, but I see nothing has changed, except I see that fear has grown in the Republicans. Like McCain/Palin, the Republican here are thowing out garbage and making quite a stink. Reminds me of the way Bush trashed McCain before McCain caved and became a follower. It's a sign of weakness. The other sign of weakness, was chosing Sarah - that wasn't "country first", but it is scary. Aggie - do you have a hood to go along with that sheet? That's too is scary and not "country first".

-- Posted by concerned4all on Sun, Nov 2, 2008, at 7:13 PM

I know that I said that I was out until Wednesday but bushwhacker needs back up so I'm back!

No one can speak to Theorist because he's a scared, weak little man that wants and needs the big government that Obama offers to take care of him!!

A looser in his own efforts to succeed because he couldn't sell his forever pantie hose or what ever it was, now he is a defeatist and needs someone to hold him up!!

-- Posted by SilentBob on Sun, Nov 2, 2008, at 7:16 PM


kinda late in the game for that isn't it ...by the time

all of that gets sorted out , tuesday will be here and


-- Posted by ..Rick on Sun, Nov 2, 2008, at 7:16 PM


i'm mixfused..who/what are ya talking 'bout?

-- Posted by ..Rick on Sun, Nov 2, 2008, at 7:20 PM

I was going as a ghost, why did you have to throw the hood in there. That is racist, asking me if I have a hood? Aggie

-- Posted by Aggiefan/Twiggy on Sun, Nov 2, 2008, at 7:22 PM

McCain or Obama , whichever will be president without

pay , do it for free , gets my vote .

-- Posted by ..Rick on Sun, Nov 2, 2008, at 7:25 PM

Rick, I've been fighting Obama since the get go, but only recently started fighting him on this forum.

That being said, it is not in my nature to just sit back and let evil lurk without a fight.

Silent_Bob, thanks for the back up.

Guys its like this, I am absolutely no fan of George Bush, or McCain for that matter but this is the situation, and I posted this late last night on speak out as well.

Either Barack Obama or John McCain is going to be president on November 5th.

If McCain wins, yep, right or wrong, it's going to be bad news for the arabs in the middle east.

If Obama wins, it's going to be bad news for Americans. Particular white Americans, he's got an axe to grind, and he's been sharpening it.

So either the Arabs are going to be oppressed, or we are, I don't like either choice, but that's the hand we've been dealt, given that choice, I vote not to be oppressed.

Suck it up, vote for McCain and live to fight another day, and say what you want about Palin, but the girl has got guts, and sometimes that's all that is needed.

-- Posted by mobushwhacker on Sun, Nov 2, 2008, at 7:27 PM

See, if I don't vote for Hussein, I'm a racist. IF I vote for Hussein, I'm intellegent.

So I must be a dumb hick racists. So beit.

Hussein doesn't have the experiance or intellegence to run a dough-nut shop much less be the president. Aggie

-- Posted by Aggiefan/Twiggy on Sun, Nov 2, 2008, at 7:29 PM

Obama would fail security clearance...


-- Posted by mobushwhacker on Sun, Nov 2, 2008, at 7:31 PM


What has confused you??

The fact that I said yesterday I was out until wednesday or the fact that I see theroist as a chicken little liberal that wants to elect an extremist who's citizenship is questionable?

Remember a week or so ago when sue lib and others ridiculed me when I made the statement sick grandma my eye??

Now after spending less than 48 hours off of the campaign trail with his ailing grandmother(HA) all of his birth records are sealed the day after he left Hawaii.

-- Posted by SilentBob on Sun, Nov 2, 2008, at 7:35 PM

mobushwhacker API is a faked story and was disproved weeks ago...your fear is showing.

-- Posted by concerned4all on Sun, Nov 2, 2008, at 7:35 PM

...that sounds sneaky..

-- Posted by ..Rick on Sun, Nov 2, 2008, at 7:38 PM

..Obama is the latest fad , voting for him makes u

one of the 'in' crowd ...

-- Posted by ..Rick on Sun, Nov 2, 2008, at 7:42 PM


We have agreed on many things, and I do have to say the most consistant thing we agree on is that we don't think either candidate for president is a good choice. That being said again we don't have any other choice, I just will glad when this election is over. I do still feel that BO is the wrong choice, my opinion on that has not changed. I do not trust the man, there is something that just isn't right, I guess we will all find out on Tuesday.


-- Posted by Aggiefan/Twiggy on Sun, Nov 2, 2008, at 7:44 PM


API is standing behind the story:


I have no fear,but I am an independent voter and I can not and will not be brainwashed.

So what is your fascination with Obama? Does it make you feel "enlightened" to support him?

To hell with the Constitution right? He's for Change! Right?

Change is coming Sulynn, Change is coming.

-- Posted by mobushwhacker on Sun, Nov 2, 2008, at 7:46 PM

Twas the night before elections,

And all through the town.

Tempers were flaring,

Emotions all up and down.

I, in my bathrobe,

With a cat in my lap.

Had cut off the TV,

Tired of all the political crap.

When all of a sudden,

There arose such a noise.

I peered out of my window,

Saw Obama and his boys.

They had come for my wallet,

They wanted my pay.

To give to the others,

Who had not worked for even one day.

He snatched up my money,

And quick as a wink.

Jumped back on his bandwagon,

As I gagged from the stink.

He then rallied his henchmen,

Who were pulling his cart.

I could tell they were out,

To tear my country apart.

On Fannie, on Freddie,

On Biden and Ayers.

On Acorn, On Pelosi,

He screamed at the pairs.

They took off for his cause,

And as he flew out of sight.

I heard him laugh at the nation,

Who wouldn't stand up and fight.

So I leave you to think,

On this one final note.

If you don't want Socialism,

Get out there and vote.

-- Posted by SilentBob on Sun, Nov 2, 2008, at 7:50 PM

Come on most of us have said at one point that we do not care for either of the candidtaes we have to choose from but we do have to select one of them to be president. Finding the less of two evils is getting harder and harder to do as election, personally I do not trust either one of them and have a feeling as a small business owner no matter who gts into office our taxes will increase. I personally feel McCain has played his trump card of being a POW more than he should have and Obama has used the race ard a little to much. All we can do is wait till tuesday go out and vote and hope no make that pray everyone uses some common sense when doing so.

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Sun, Nov 2, 2008, at 7:59 PM


Hi good to see you on. Hope all is well.

Agree with you on both comments about their card playing, will be so glad when this is done. Ths sad thing is those shouldn't even be issues for getting our vote.


-- Posted by Aggiefan/Twiggy on Sun, Nov 2, 2008, at 8:04 PM


I know but seems to be what the issue is.

Hope all is well there and with the new grandbaby

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Sun, Nov 2, 2008, at 8:08 PM


i agree about BO...there's something that just

don't add up , the whole thing don't smell right .

...the other guy has the misfortune of following

Bush , so nothing he's gonna do or say be correct..

personally , i'll be glad when it's over...i know

more then i care to..

-- Posted by ..Rick on Sun, Nov 2, 2008, at 8:12 PM


Always the issue.

All is going well looking forward to their visit.

Is anyone else having trouble posting? I'm starting to have some problems posting, seems like that's always happening here lately. One of the many reasons I haven't been on much lately.


-- Posted by Aggiefan/Twiggy on Sun, Nov 2, 2008, at 8:13 PM


I know what you mean, there are some things we don't need to know. Some of the things that are being brought up are just not important.


-- Posted by Aggiefan/Twiggy on Sun, Nov 2, 2008, at 8:16 PM

No for the first time in awhile I have't had any problems knock on wood

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Sun, Nov 2, 2008, at 8:16 PM

mobush you said "API is standing behind the story".

And why should I be impressed with that? Where is their proof - they also said FOX would release it. If FOX believed it, it would have been released. mobush, FEAR is not truth.

"So what is your fascination with Obama? Does it make you feel "enlightened" to support him?"

Goodness - I'm not fascinated by Obama and I have no idea what you meam by "enlightened", but, I'll tell you why I'm supporting Obama. I'm tired of all that has gone on under the Republicans. The lies, the coverups, the wars, the taxes, the way the rest of the world now sees the USA and the national debt - ALL OF IT. You bet - I'm ready for change and the only hope to have it, is to change who is in charge. So, it's really that the Republicans have driven me to support Obama. Blame them if you will.

You also said, "Change is coming Sulynn, Change is coming". And I'm ready mo - aren't you?

-- Posted by concerned4all on Sun, Nov 2, 2008, at 8:18 PM


neve thought I would say I know more than I want to but thanks to this campaign I can. Like you I will be glad when it is done, only then it will be months of listening t the wrong peson won no matter who wins the election

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Sun, Nov 2, 2008, at 8:18 PM

Hey Silent_Bob:

Speaking of "Smelling" I guess CBS News is racist too!

CBS News Blog: Obama's Plane "smells terrible"...


-- Posted by mobushwhacker on Sun, Nov 2, 2008, at 8:20 PM


Alot will depend on what the change is going to bring. As far as the lieing goes, they all lie Dems, Rep, all of them do at one point or another. I don't always vote Rep or Dem, I try to go by who I think will do the best job for our country and the people in it. Isn't the way we should do it?


-- Posted by Aggiefan/Twiggy on Sun, Nov 2, 2008, at 8:22 PM

I'm out for now - tired of the silly namecalling, silly games and silly boys who play here.

See ya when it's over.

-- Posted by concerned4all on Sun, Nov 2, 2008, at 8:24 PM


You wrote:

"I'll tell you why I'm supporting Obama. I'm tired of all that has gone on under the Republicans. The lies, the coverups, the wars, the taxes, the way the rest of the world now sees the USA and the national debt - ALL OF IT. You bet - I'm ready for change and the only hope to have it, is to change who is in charge. So, it's really that the Republicans have driven me to support Obama. Blame them if you will.

You also said, "Change is coming Sulynn, Change is coming". And I'm ready mo - aren't you?"

You are so tired of the Republicans lies and deceipt that you are willing to buy into the lies and deceipt of a man that won't even let the public see his birth certificate to show he is truly a US citizen?

Oh I'm ready for change, but now Obama's, I'm afraid you and a whole lot of other people are going to regret voting for him.

-- Posted by mobushwhacker on Sun, Nov 2, 2008, at 8:29 PM


you ae correct it should be by the person and not the party, thir rae, sex r any of those things but it doesn't always work that way for some.

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Sun, Nov 2, 2008, at 8:33 PM


Is this good enough about the birth certificate thing? Do you think maybe BO will not justify such nonsense?


Heck BO was born in this country but John McCain was not. The nutjobs should be out in full force tomorrow.

-- Posted by shortwhitebaldguy on Sun, Nov 2, 2008, at 8:35 PM

I've got to go y'all. While Obama and the Democrats are pulling every dirty trick in the book to get elected at the national level, the Missouri Republican Committee is pulling every low down dirty trick in the book to make sure they retain the 156th district.

Their latest stunt is "robo" calls going out to residents stating that Michael Winder is pro life (which is a good thing) but then goes on to state that he is also pro-civil union (gay marriage) which is not only a bad thing, but is absolutely not true.

So, I'm going to stop commenting about a race I have no control over (the presidency) and go back to work to help an old friend out...


-- Posted by mobushwhacker on Sun, Nov 2, 2008, at 8:37 PM

BABE... you and Joe Allen

First, Babe.. tain't no cuttin' and pastin' agoing on, unless I put it in "......" then, you know that it came from somewhere else...

Secondly, Babe... you never liked Joe Allen in the first place, because, even though, he is a Constitutionally believing, Social and Fiscal Conservative, who is Traditonal Marriage, Pro-Life, Pro-Property Rights, and Pro-all our Gun Rights, with an ("A") from the NRA... you wouldn't vote for him because you have a childish notion that only an "R", no matter how bad that the person is, Jo Ann Emerson, for instance, you will NEVER vote for a Democrat, regardless of their convictions that resemble that of most southern Missourians, Democrat, or, Republican.

You are just anal retentive that way... God Bless, you, Babe, it is your right to be anal retentive, so you keep voting for those who have scammed the district, and voted to take our money to give to Wall Street Banks, like PNC so that they could buy other banks for themselves, and the other banks who got OUR money and who are paying their shareholders dividends, and paying bonuses to their CEO's and other executives out of OUR MONEY... and insurance giant AIG who got our money and who's executives went on a luxury, $400,000 party to treat themselves ....ALL ON OUR MONEY....

You do as you wish, Babe, however, I and an increasing number of good Republicans will be voting for Joe Allen.

Come see why, in the past 24 hours, over 100 NEW visitors came to see what Joe Allen is all about... www.allen4congress.com

-- Posted by Robert Goodbody on Sun, Nov 2, 2008, at 8:41 PM

The Birth Certificate that Obama's campaign put out earlier this year does not have an official seal or signature.

Visit : http://www.obamacrimes.com

Also the governor of Hawaii has sealed Obama's birth records.

-- Posted by mobushwhacker on Sun, Nov 2, 2008, at 8:43 PM

Gerald Jones to Resign?

Anybody else heard the rumor going around in county goverment circles that Gerald Jones will resign if 2nd District Commissioner Jay Purcell is re-elected?

-- Posted by Robert Goodbody on Sun, Nov 2, 2008, at 8:44 PM

Ok mobush - last post...

mobush said, "You are so tired of the Republicans lies and deceipt that you are willing to buy into the lies and deceipt of a man that won't even let the public see his birth certificate to show he is truly a US citizen?"

Give it a rest - another one of your stories that's not a story. Been factchecked to death. Hell, my mom's bith cert. wouldn't meet today's standards and my dad's has an error on it too. Obama's mom is a U.S. citizen and so is he. See, this is just the kind of silly game I was talking about - silly man.

Again, blame the Republicans who didn't put "country first".

-- Posted by concerned4all on Sun, Nov 2, 2008, at 8:45 PM

Have not heard that rumor but I seriosly doubt it. Aside from the presidential election I find this local county election quite interesting.

-- Posted by shortwhitebaldguy on Sun, Nov 2, 2008, at 8:46 PM


by the way wanted to let you know a new plea deal was put on the table and this time if he takes it he will serve 5 years in prison and then go to Farmington for the next 10. He is gauranteed not to be put in the general population at the prison either. I am not happy about the amount of time or the conditions but anything to keep all the kids off the stand. His attorney is really pushing for him to takeit.

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Sun, Nov 2, 2008, at 8:50 PM


how about this.


some people will believe whatever they choose to. if you want to debate competence or policy that is one thing but to propagate fear is another.

I may not agree with Opinion Dude (all the time but do on several subjects) but he sticks with policy and record and not nonsense.

-- Posted by shortwhitebaldguy on Sun, Nov 2, 2008, at 8:51 PM

mobushwhacker .... Michael Winder.... robo calls.

You and I both know that is Rod Jetton trying to get his little office girl stooge, Keeney, elected so that they can continue their own version of the good ole boy, back scratching, thing going on in Jefferson City.

I feel that the people of the 156th, are pretty fed up with Rod Jetton, after what he pulled about the folks in Wayne County being lazy, saying only three people showed up to apply for jobs, when it was well over 300 people who came out for those relatively low paying jobs. Rod Jetton doesn't know the 156th, and the people there are catching on to that fact.

First, those scumbags were saying that Michael Winder would raise their taxes, then that he was socialist, and now, that he is for gay marriage... what a bunch of low-life scum. Do the people of the 156th want a bunch of lying scum to "represent" them in Jefferson City? I don't think so.

Michael Winder is a hard working man, who supports his family. He is pro-life, pro-property rights, and pro-gun rights. He is a SOCIAL...and a FISCAL Conservative Democrat, and that is what scares the hell out of that scum Rod Jetton has out tearing down Michael Winder. They know that a true conservative can win in the 156th, they just don't want Michael elected, because it will mess up their little game that they have going on in Jefferson City, making money for themselves, while pretending to represent the people of the 156th.

The key is, the lies that Jefferson told about Wayne County. Saying that he would trade them for Mexicans. He didn't expect anyone to do some fact checking on that... when they did, they found out that Jetton was a big liar, that over 300 Wayne Countians, desparate for jobs, came out and applied for low paying work there.

I have absolutely no respect for either Rod Jetton, nor, Jason Crowell. Both have either decieved me, or, lied to me personally.

Vote for Michael Winder... in the 156th..

Vote for Linda Sanders.. for Senate and send Crowell home.

-- Posted by Robert Goodbody on Sun, Nov 2, 2008, at 8:52 PM


I hate that he's not getting a longer sentence and I understand you not wanting the kids to have to go to court. His attorney is pushing so hard for the deal, most likely because if you do have to go to court they will not go so lightly on him. I do hope everything works out for what's best for the kids though. Please keep me posted, and don't hesitate to call if you need me.


-- Posted by Aggiefan/Twiggy on Sun, Nov 2, 2008, at 9:03 PM

Short White Bald Guy:

Sillyness? Oh I don't think so. Listen to the Phil Berg / Michael Savage radio interview:


Or read the following article:


But if you want to discuss "Policy" let's discuss the policy of the Constitution that many of you want to throw out the window, and that is the fact that if you want to be president, you have to be a natural born citizen.

-- Posted by mobushwhacker on Sun, Nov 2, 2008, at 9:05 PM


The Missouri Bushwhacker Blog has learned that voters of the 156th district are receiving "robo-calls" that are supposed to be representing Michael Winder, Democratic candidate for State Representative, Missouri 156th district.

The calls state that Michael Winder is "Pro-Life" (which is true), but then go on to state that Michael Winder is "Pro-Civil Union" a.k.a. Gay Marriage, (which is abolutely false).

Do not believe these "robo-calls" the Missouri Republicans are throwing everything (including the kitchen sink) at Michael Winder right now, they are desperate and they are dangerous, and have already been condemned by Project Vote Smart for misleading the public through false information.

Get the real facts about Michael Winder at:


-- Posted by mobushwhacker on Sun, Nov 2, 2008, at 9:07 PM

Iwill and yes if it goes to trial it will be a lot harder...........each charge carries a minimum of 10 years and he already has 18 charges against him and another 14 will be filed if it goes to trial. but I will keep you posted

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Sun, Nov 2, 2008, at 9:09 PM

allthe posts disappeared

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Sun, Nov 2, 2008, at 9:19 PM

That's happened several times to me also. Well, I'm out for the night folks have a good evening.


-- Posted by Aggiefan/Twiggy on Sun, Nov 2, 2008, at 9:23 PM

All the post are coming and going and some aren't even posting, guess I'm going to stop for the evening since it's beginning to be a problem. Have a good evening all.


-- Posted by Aggiefan/Twiggy on Sun, Nov 2, 2008, at 9:31 PM


Be sure that the plea bargain is consistent with DOC policy because once he is sentenced neither the judge or PA have any control over where he goes, housing etc., that is entirely a function of DOC. Depending on his offense how much time he serves may be determined by statute or DOC Salient Factor Score.

-- Posted by Red_Rhino on Sun, Nov 2, 2008, at 9:32 PM

Bald dude, Sue lynn and others:

Here is the part you keep leaving out, Why??

Date: Friday, October 24, 2008, 9:12 PM

Legal Fight Over Obama's

Citizenship Boils

From Joel Skousen

Editor - World Affairs Brief

Commentary and Insights on a Troubled World


I'm putting the economic issues in second position this


to cover an important and ongoing election story with tremendous legal

consequences to the issue of presidential qualifications. The


most under-reported story, among many, is the story of Obama's origins


Kenya and the evidence indicating that Obama's subsequent birth


from Hawaii was falsified to give him citizen status. There are two


cases pending on the issue, and it seems obvious now that the courts


dragging their feet to evade a ruling until the election is over. The


of Hawaii appeared to be complicit in the forgery when it happened and


now equally reluctant to come forth and certify the bogus copy of a


certificate. The US government Election Commission has also failed to

do its

due diligence in certifying Obama's citizenship and right to be a US

President. Don't expect this important legal technicality to stop the


steamroller. There exists a major conspiracy of silence.

The notoriously liberal debunking website


dismisses the legal challenges to Obama's citizenship as typical of


'unsuccessful challenges' common to US elections. That's a bit

premature to

label a current case as 'unsuccessful,' especially when they don't have


courtesy to air any of the powerful evidence submitted in this legal

challenge nor comment on its veracity. This is typical of debunking


that are propaganda arms of the establishment. They never attempt to


the tough questions, only the easy straw man arguments.

Dockets.justia.com gives us a summary of the issues in


case: 'A Mr. Philip Berg [a Clinton Democrat] presented a case before

Federal District Court (Philadelphia), last summer, to have Obama, DNC


Federal Elections Commission show evidence, in the face of Berg's


evidence to the contrary, that Obama is a 'Natural Born Citizen.' The

defendants moved to dismiss, but the judge denied the motion (9/29) and

seemed to think Berg's documented evidence, that Obama was born in

Kenya and

then naturalized into Indonesia, was powerful enough to order

defendants to

produce verified documentation to support Obama's 'Natural Born' claim


status. The judge ordered defendants to produce a birth certificate


by Hawaii, which seems to be a problem, as well as other documents. On

10/6/2008, defendants filed for protection until they can argue it out.


filed for relief in DC and several levels of government agencies.

'On 10/7/2008, a Psychiatrist Dr. Bradley filed a

motion to

intervene on Berg's behalf. The 'friend of the Court' [amicus brief]


to be placed in the records as 'Jane Doe,' citing professional and


reasons. She presented documentation from Obama's grandmother,


and stepsister that Obama was born in Kenyaand, after birth, was rushed


Hawaii to fraudulently file for birth certification. She further


that Obama's Indonesian step sister was also rushed to Hawaii for US

certification after her birth.

'Further, Bradley produced documentation that Obama had

Indonesian citizenship under the name of Barry Soetoro. He also had an

Indonesian passport up to and beyond age 18. After moving in with his

Grandmother in Hawaii he did not 'naturalize,' as would be required.

Bradley's motion is that Obama is actually an illegal alien. 10/9/2008:


response to defendants' request for evasion and continued secrecy, Berg

filed a summary motion for a speedy trial date ... against BARACK


OBAMA (his post Pakistan trip name), a/k/a BARRY SOETORO (his


name), a/k/a, BARRY OBAMA (his American nickname), a/k/a, and BARACK


(another formerly used name).'

Obama has claimed at various times to have been born at

either Queens Medical Center or Kapiolani Medical Center in Honolulu,

Hawaii. Public records do not show any record of his mother, Stanley


Dunham (Obama) giving birth to anyone in either place. There is no

record of

Obama being a naturalized US. Citizen. Thus, the court must rule by


judgment that Obama was born in the Coast Province Hospital in Mombasa,

Kenya, as per evidence present by Mr. Berg and that he is not a US


But, the court is stalling. According to the


Daily News, 'Mike Finney, deputy clerk to Judge Surrick, says that


office has gotten a blizzard of phone calls about the suit. 'Within the


week the calls have instensified,' Finney told us. 'People from all


the country have been calling.' He said we should expect a ruling soon.

We'll see. I suspect the judge will either grant a further delay to


evidence or will find some other technical excuse to stall. Default of


court order is an open and shut cause for affirming the case. The judge


obviously consulting with the PTB on how to get out of this predicament

without declaring Obama's candidacy illegal. This is further evidence


the judicial branch of the US is compromised and the Constitution is


whenever it gets in the way of the establishment agenda.

Copyright Joel Skousen. Partial quotations with



Cite source as Joel Skousen's World Affairs Brief


-- Posted by SilentBob on Sun, Nov 2, 2008, at 9:44 PM

You might want to check out this website:


-- Posted by concerned4all on Sun, Nov 2, 2008, at 9:56 PM

I will post this everyday until the election!!

All I can say is: May GOD help us.

For your considered review...

To Barack Hussein Obama,

The New York Times carried a story on Saturday, October 4, 2008, that proved you had a significantly closer relationship with Bill Ayers than what you previously admitted. While the issue of your relationship is of concern, the greater concern is that you lied to America about it.

The Chicago Sun reported on May 8, 2008, that FBI records showed that you had a significantly closer relationship with Tony Rezko than what you previously admitted. In the interview, you said that you only saw Mr. Rezko a couple of times a year. The FBI files showed that you saw him weekly. While the issue of your relationship is of concern, the greater concern is that you lied to America about it.

Your speech in Philadelphia on March 18, 2008, about "race" contradicted your statement to Anderson Cooper on March 14 when you said that you never heard Reverend Wright make his negative statements about white America. While your attendance at Trinity Church for 20 years is of concern, the greater concern is that you lied to America on March 14.

In your 1st debate with John McCain, you said that you never said that you would meet with the leaders of Cuba, Venezuela, Iran, and North Korea without "preparations" at lower levels ... Joe Biden repeated your words in his debate with Sarah Palin ... while the video tape from your debate last February clearly shows that you answered "I would" to the question of meeting with those leaders within 12 months without "any" preconditions. While your judgement about meeting with enemies of the USA without pre-conditions is of concern, the greater concern is that you lied to America in the debate with McCain.

On July 14, 2008, you said that you always knew that the surge would work while the video tapes of you from more than a year ago show that you stated that the surge would not work. While your judgement about military strategy as a potential commander-in-chief is of concern, the greater concern is that you lied to America on July 14.

You now claim that your reason for voting against funding for the troops was because the bill did not include a time line for withdrawal, while the video tapes of you from more than a year ago show that you voted against additional funding because you wanted our troops to be removed immediately ... not in 16 months after the 2008 election as you now claim. While your judgement about removing our troops unilaterally in

2007 is of concern, the greater concern is that you lied to America about your previous position.

You claim to have a record of working with Republicans while the record shows that the only bill that you sponsored with a Republican was with Chuck Lugar ... and it failed. The record shows that you vote 97% in concert with the Democrat party and that you have the most liberal voting record in the Senate. You joined Republicans only 13% of the time in your votes and those 13% were only after agreement from the Democrat party. While it is of concern that you fail to include conservatives in your actions and that you are such a liberal, the greater concern is that you distorted the truth.

In the primary debates of last February, 2008, you claimed to have talked with a "Captain" of a platoon in Afghanistan "the other day" when in fact you had a discussion in 2003 with a Lieutenant who had just been deployed to Afghanistan. You lied in that debate.

In your debates last spring, you claimed to have been a "professor of Constitutional law" when in fact you have never been a professor of Constitutional law. In this last debate, you were careful to say that you "taught a law class" and never mentioned being a "professor of Constitutional law." You lied last spring.

You and Joe Biden both claimed that John McCain voted against additional funding for our troops when the actual records show the opposite. You distorted the truth.

You and Joe Biden claim that John McCain voted against funding for alternate energy sources 20 times when the record shows that John McCain specifically voted against funding for bio fuels, especially corn ... and he was right .... corn is too expensive at producing ethanol, and using corn to make ethanol increased the price of corn from $2 a bushel to $6 a bushel for food. You distorted the truth.

You and Joe Biden claim that John McCain voted like both of you for a tax increase on those making as little as $42,000 per year while the voting record clearly shows that John McCain did not vote as you and Joe Biden. You lied to America.

You and Joe Biden claim that John McCain voted with George W. Bush 90% of the time when you know that Democrats also vote 90% of the time with the President (including Joe Biden) because the vast majority of the votes are procedural. You are one of the few who has not voted 90% of the time with the president because you have been missing from the Senate since the day you got elected. While your absence from your job in the Senate is of concern, the greater concern is that you spin the facts.

You did not take an active role in the rescue plan. You claimed that the Senate did not need you while the real reason that you abstained was because of your close relationships with the executives of Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, Countrywide, and Acorn ... who all helped cause the financial problems of today ... and they all made major contributions to your campaign. While your relationship with these executives and your protection of them for your brief 3 years in the Senate (along with Barney Frank, Chuck Schumer, Maxine Waters, and Chris Dodd) is of concern, the greater concern is that you are being deceitful.

You forgot to mention that you personally represented Tony Rezko and Acorn. Tony Rezko, an Arab and close friend to you, was convicted of fraud in Chicago real estate transactions that bilked millions of tax dollars from the Illinois government for renovation projects that you sponsored as a state senator ... and Acorn has been convicted of voter fraud, real estate sub prime loan intimidation, and illegal campaign contributions. Tony Rezko has contributed hundreds of thousands of dollars to your political campaigns. You personally used your political positions to steer money to both Tony Rezko and Acorn and you used Acorn to register thousands of phony voters for Democrats and you. While your relationships with Rezko and Acorn are of concern, the greater concern is that you omitted important facts about your relationships with them to America.

During your campaign, you said: "typical white person." "They cling to their guns and religion." "They will say that I am black." You played the race card. You tried to label any criticism about you as racist. You divide America.

You claim that you will reduce taxes for 95% of America, but you forgot to tell America that those reductions are after you remove the Bush tax reductions. You have requested close to $1 billion in earmarks and several million for Acorn. Your social programs will cost America $1 trillion per year and you claim that a reduction in military spending

($100 billion for Iraq) can pay for it. While your economic plan of adding 30% to the size of our federal government is of concern, the greater concern is that you are deceiving America.

The drain to America's economy by foreign supplied oil is $700 billion per year

(5% of GDP) while the war in Iraq is $100 billion (less than 1% of GDP). You voted against any increases to oil exploration for the last 3 years and any expansion of nuclear facilities. Yet today, you say that you have always been for more oil and more nuclear. You are lying to America.

Mr. Obama, you claimed that you "changed" your mind about public financing for your campaign because of the money spent by Republican PACs in

2004. The truth is that the Democrat PACs in 2004, 2006, and

2008 spent twice as much as the Republican PACs (especially George Soros and MoveOn.org). You are lying to America.

Mr. Obama, you have done nothing to stop the actions of the teachers union and college professors in the USA. They eliminated religion from our history. They teach pro gay agendas and discuss sex with students as young as first grade. They bring their personal politics into the classrooms. They disparage conservatives. They brainwash our children. They are in it for themselves ..... not America. Are you reluctant to condemn their actions because teachers/professors and the NEA contribute

25% of all money donated to Democrats and none to Republicans? You are deceiving America.

Oh, Mr. Obama, Teddy Roosevelt said about a hundred years ago that we Americans should first look at the character of our leaders before anything else. Your character looks horrible. While you make good speeches, motivating speeches, your character does not match your rhetoric. You talk the talk, but do not walk the walk.

1. You lied to America. You lied many times. You distorted facts. You parsed your answers like a lawyer.

2. You distorted the record of John McCain in your words and in your advertisements.

3. You had associations with some very bad people for your personal political gains and then lied about those associations.

4. You divide America about race and about class.

Now let me compare your record of lies, distortions, race baiting, and associations to John McCain: War hero. Annapolis graduate with "Country first." Operational leadership experience like all 43 previously elected presidents of the USA as a Navy officer for 22 years.

26 years in the Senate. Straight talk. Maverick. 54% of the time participated on bills with Democrats. Never asked for an earmark. The only blemish on his record is his part in the Keating 5 debacle about 25 years ago.

Mr. Obama, at Harvard Law School, you learned that the end does not justify the means. You learned that perjury, false witness, dishonesty, distortion of truth are never tolerated. Yet, your dishonesty is overwhelming. Your dishonesty is tremendously greater than the dishonesty that caused the impeachment and disbarment of Bill Clinton. Your dishonesty is tremendously greater than the dishonesty of Scooter Libby. You should be ashamed.

Mr. Obama, it is time for us Americans to put aside our differences on political issues and vote against you because of your dishonest character. It is time for all of us Americans to put aside our political issues and vote for America first. It is time for America to vote for honesty. Any people who vote for you after understanding that you are dishonest should be ashamed of themselves for making their personal political issues more important than character. Would these same people vote for the anti-Christ if the anti-Christ promised them riches? Would they make a golden calf while Moses was up the mountain? Would they hire someone for a job if that someone lied in an interview? Of course not. So why do some of these people justify their votes for you even though they know you are dishonest? Why do they excuse your dishonesty? Because some of these people are frightened about the future, the economy, and their financial security .... and you are preying on their fears with empty promises ... and because some

(especially our young people) are consumed by your wonderful style and promises for "change" like the Germans who voted for Adolf Hitler in 1932. The greed/envy by Germans in

1932 kept them from recognizing Hitler for who he was. They loved his style. Greed and envy are keeping many Americans from recognizing you ... your style has camouflaged your dishonesty .... but many of us see you for who you really are ... and we will not stop exposing who you are every day, forever if it is necessary.

Mr. Obama, you are dishonest. Anyone who votes for you is enabling dishonesty.

Mr. Obama, America cannot trust that you will put America first in your decisions about the future.

Mr. Obama, you are not the "change" that America deserves. We cannot trust you.

Mr. Obama, You are not ready and not fit to be commander-in-chief.

Mr. Obama, John McCain does not have as much money as your campaign to refute all of your false statements. And for whatever reasons, the mainstream media will not give adequate coverage or research about your lies, distortions, word parsing, bad associations, race baiting, lack of operational leadership experience, and generally dishonest character. The media is diverting our attention from your relationships and ignoring the fact that you lied about those relationships. The fact that you lied is much more important than the relationships themselves .... just like with Bill Clinton and Richard Nixon ... Monica Lewinski and Watergate were not nearly as bad as the fact that those men lied about the events ... false witness ... perjury ... your relationships and bad judgements are bad on their own .... but your lies are even worse.

Therefore, by copy of this memo, all who read this memo are asked to send it to everyone else in America before it is too late. We need to do the job that the media will not do. We need to expose your dishonesty so that every person in America understands who you really are before election day.

Mr. Obama, in a democracy, we get what we deserve. And God help America if we deserve you.

Michael Master McLean, Virginia

If you forward just one more thing to those in your address book between now and then, I ask that you

-- Posted by SilentBob on Sun, Nov 2, 2008, at 9:58 PM

More on the Republican "Robo Call" story taking place in the 156th District...

More facts are in here is what we now know:

The Missouri Bushwhacker Blog has learned that voters of the 156th district are receiving "robo-calls" that are supposed to be representing Michael Winder, Democratic candidate for State Representative, Missouri 156th district.

The calls state that Barack Obama and Michael Winder are not Pro-Life.Do not believe these "robo-calls".

The fact is that Barack Obama is not Pro-Life but Michael Winder IS Pro-Life. In fact the only thing that Obama and Winder have in common is that they both happen to appear on the Democratic ballot.

The Missouri Republicans are throwing everything (including the kitchen sink) at Michael Winder right now, they are desperate and they are dangerous, and have already been condemned by Project Vote Smart for misleading the public through false information.

The group behind the "robo-calls" is called Missourians for a Better Education. It is funded by Rex Springfield a Republican and friends with Rod Jetton and Jason Crowell.

Get the real facts about Michael Winder at:


Clint, Missouri Bushwhacker

-- Posted by mobushwhacker on Sun, Nov 2, 2008, at 10:08 PM

here it is

make your point


If there was ever a story of blockbuster proportions that should, on the eve of a momentous US election, be the focus of media attention and the detailed scrutiny of the Federal Election Commission it is this: that Barack Obama continues to refuse to release certifiable documentation that he is a natural-born citizen in conformance with the constitution's requirement for a US presidential candidate. We are watching the coordinated efforts of establishment media, the federal government, the State of Hawaii, federal judges, and even the McCain campaign to assiduously avoid investigating this issue, ruling on it, or even acknowledging to the public that it exists. At least 6 court cases are still pending and all of the judges are either stalling or using technicalities to dismiss the case. In the most important challenge by a Phillip Berg, former Pennsylvania Deputy Attorney General, the judge ruled that a voter has no standing to bring suit. Incredible! Why do I suspect conspiracy among the actors? Simply because the issue is so big and potentially damaging to Barack Obama; the evidence so powerful in the contradictions it has put forth, and the purposeful evasion of Obama's legal team so obvious, that no honest news organization could refuse to pick up on this top internet story unless there was a clear chain of secret orders demanding that every part of the controlled press, election bureaucracy, and judicial system avoid this issue. And so they have. For a one-time sample copy of these briefings, send an email to "editor@worldaffairsbrief.com" and request it.

-- Posted by SilentBob on Sun, Nov 2, 2008, at 10:14 PM

SilentBob said, "I will post this everyday until the election!!"

And like most, I'll keep zipping right past it. Silly bob.

-- Posted by concerned4all on Sun, Nov 2, 2008, at 10:17 PM


That's exactly whats wrong with people like you!!

You just keep zipping through life hearing only what you want and caring little about the important issues that affect the general population your family or generations to come!!

You hate anyone that might give a different opinion because your so full of yourself you refuse to believe that you might be wrong!!

I hope you know how to use a shovel because you may have to dig your bunker by yourself.

-- Posted by SilentBob on Sun, Nov 2, 2008, at 10:42 PM


-- Posted by SilentBob on Sun, Nov 2, 2008, at 10:56 PM

MO BUSHWHACKER, ...is this the same scumbag REX SPRINGFIELD who is launching those attacks at Michael Winder for Rod Jetton, and his stooge and puppet... KEENEY? Interesting story... seems like his son is a person of interest in the disappearance of Rex's sister ... What interesting friends Rod Jetton, Shelly Keeney, and Jason Crowell keep, and then employe to attack good citizens.

now... this is a cut and paste... but, see the " marks? That means it is cut and paste...

Jan 11 2008, 08:28 PM


"Where's Nancy?

Brother worried about missing woman

By Hugh S. Welsh | hugh.welsh@examiner.net

The brother of an Independence woman missing since Dec. 28 remains at a loss as to where she might be, though he does have his suspicions.

Bret Springfield - Rex Springfield's son and Harris' nephew - had been living with Harris since early December after losing his job. Bret Springfield, 41, went missing shortly after Harris' disappearance. He has not been reachable since the day Harris' bank posted her government support check, said Rex Springfield, whose sister Nancy Harris was last seen by a medical compliance worker who visited her home.

According to police, Bret Springfield is believed to have traveled from Missouri through Kansas to Perry, Utah, possibly en route to Jerome, Idaho, where he has family.

Police also said Bret Springfield's vehicle had been impounded, so he is likely traveling west via mass transit.

Rex Springfield said that before coming to the area, his son had served nine months in jail for repeated DWI convictions.

According to Rex Springfield, his son was wanted on several warrants, including another DWI charge and possible involvement in a theft.

Rex Springfield said Harris is hypogylycemic (low blood sugar) and suffers from mood swings and anxiety and takes several types of medication including seroquel and depakote. She has not been in contact with her physician.

"Without her medication, she goes into a fit of confusion," said Rex Springfield, who regularly cared for her. "And being hypoglycemic and all she has to eat ever so often or bad things can happen pretty quickly."

When he last saw her on the evening of Dec. 26, Rex Springfield said she was in "fairly good spirits and very stable."

Before retirement, Harris worked as a lab technician and dental assistant.

"At the moment, we have no evidence of a crime," Independence Police Spokesperson Tom Gentry said. "We have a person who is missing under circumstances that are suspicious to us; we have no suspects at this time."

According to police, Harris does not have, nor does she drive, a vehicle.

She is described as a 63-year-old white female, 5-foot, 2-inches tall, weighing 90 pounds with brown eyes and gray hair.

Officials said if anyone knows Harris' or Springfield's whereabouts, they should call the Independence Police Investigative Division at 816-325-7330."

-- Posted by Robert Goodbody on Sun, Nov 2, 2008, at 11:47 PM

"You hate anyone that might give a different opinion because your so full of yourself you refuse to believe that you might be wrong!!"

Funny you said that SilentBob, it's exactly what I was thinking about YOU!

-- Posted by concerned4all on Sun, Nov 2, 2008, at 11:53 PM

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