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Speak Out 10/25/08

Saturday, October 25, 2008

Campaign costs

HAS ANYONE wondered how much money and resources it took for the vice president to come to Cape Girardeau for a two-hour private political fundraiser for Peter Kinder? Law enforcement from two counties and three cities were needed, not to mention the numerous federal tax dollars spent for all the security and air and ground transportation and additional personnel. Thousands and thousands of dollars of federal money spent to help Kinder raise campaign money. What a prime example of the greedy Republican mindset.

Language of the land

THE RUCKUS around Constitutional Amendment 1 (the English-only amendment) is unfounded. This is an answer to a problem that doesn't really exist. It's not very well hidden racism. When it's all boiled down, it's mostly a matter of 'These people need to speak the language of the land when they come here." Sounds reasonable, right? Funnily enough, I don't see us speaking Navajo or Sioux.

Make learning fun

I AGREE that schools should try to make learning more enjoyable for our children. I've said since high school that if the children had an enjoyable environment, it wouldn't be such a problem getting them to do the work. I remember Mr. Springer at Central High School, who was a great teacher and made class fun and interesting.

Don't lease vehicle

IT'S HARD to believe that Scott County commissioners would consider leasing a vehicle when they could buy the vehicle for the same money they save. You've got to maintain somebody else's vehicle when you can buy it for practically the same money. It would be their own vehicle, and they wouldn't be tied to a three-year lease. They could sell it any time they wanted. I think they would be better off to buy the vehicle instead of leasing it.

Wind power

I AM not for an increase in nuclear energy. I do not want a Three Mile Island. I do not want a Chernobyl. France uses wind power a lot, and if you go through the countryside, you will see wonderful windmills. They're big and modern-looking. Not the stuff of Holland but tall, sleek, metal windmills. I think wind power is the way to go. Wind power is the future. America doesn't use enough of it, and nuclear energy could be too costly. Human life is too valuable to have a Chernobyl or the risk of a Three Mile Island.

County road safety

I LIVE on County Road 301 and know it has been mowed three times. There are a lot of roads in Cape Girardeau County to mow. Yes, it is dangerous in places, but maybe we could do our part by slowing down. And when we round that corner, we need to stay on our side of the road.

God's in charge

A LOT of people are worried about global warming. Folks, you don't have to worry. God has everything under control. Read Genesis 8:22. It tells us that while the earth remain, seed time and harvest and cold and heat and summer and winter and day and night shall not cease. That's what I'm holding onto and believing with all my heart.

Waiting at the light

I'M AT the stoplights at Bloomfield Road and Kings¿highway. I do not understand why the Missouri Department of Transportation or the city cannot get these lights to work. When you pull up on Bloomfield, you sit and sit and sit, even when no one is coming the other direction. It doesn't matter what time of day or night it is.

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I must question the timing of the ruling in the case brought by our courageous 2nd District Jay Purcell, in his efforts to fight the stranglehold of the good ole boys over our county government.

The ruling by an alleged Stoddard County Judge, comes just before our elections, and ask if it was done in a manner to affect our elections to the disadvantage of Mr. Purcell. I guess that now I am going to have to look into the background of this judge. I am not an officer of the court, so I owe him nothing, nor, do I have to be gentle if I find anything unfavorable in his regard.

You do have to wonder, when some people, who consider themselves to be the most powerful people in southeast Missouri go after Jay Purcell, just how far would they go, and how much money would they be willing to spend.

If I were Jay Purcell and his Attorney, I would look into the widening of Broadway, to see what favors were extended there, if any. Then, I would take a peak at why the city bought TWO homes and gave the entire lots to Hardees, or, it's franchisee, when they took only a couple of rarely used parking spaces in the front of Hardees. Then, there is the group which purchased Hardees, and then sold it to Family Video for a tidy profit. I would be interested in knowing the timeline of those events from start to finish, if anyone received information that was not public, that helped them in the process. It is interesting to me, that Family Video corporate told me that they like to go into a location where they have room to build a store where they can lease out space. Interesting, the OLD Hardees was not large enough for Family Video to build a store and lease out space, but when those two homes that, we bought were torn down, Voila! there was plenty of space for Family Video to build and lease out space. Funny how things just turn out that way.

Just my opinion, nothing alleged, nothing more.. just interesting, in my opinion.

If someone really wanted to find out more about it, they could talk to the Licheneggers who got the royal shaft from the city over their Global Trading. The city took their Broadway entrance, and several parking spaces and gave them nothing in return. They are right next to Family Video, and I have always wondered if the people who were selling the Old Hardees, now with two Cape Girardeau taxpayer paid for lots to Family Video, wanted to expand and sell the entire block and that is why Global Trading and the Licheneggers got squat.. sort of a pressure tactic. I dunno. What do I know... nothing... nothing, Sgt. Schultz and I know nothing... I do have to ask, however, why didn't the city give Global Trading a few of the spaces in the lot that they made just to the west of Global Trading on Broadway? That sure would have been a nice jesture, if they had done that. But they didn't. Why didn't they? Could it be, that the city was working a deal, with those involved in the ultimate purchase of the old Hardees, and that they used our taxes to gift that party with those two houses to sweeten any future deal that the party would make in selling the Broadway Hardees, and that if the city had given a couple spaces to the Lichengeggers at Global Trading, that the party would throw a hissy fit? Odd. Why would the city, in the widening of Broadway, take our taxes and buy TWO houses and give them to Hardees, or, the fanchisee, when they only took a few rarely used parking spaces in the front of Broadway Hardees? And, if they were so darn generous in regards to Hardees, then why didn't the city become generous with Global Trading, when they took several parking spaces in front of the store, and ELIMINATED their Broadway drive entrance? Just boggles the mind, it does... it sure does. TWO houses purchased and given to Broadway Hardees, and NOTHING given to Global Trading, when they suffered more harm than Hardees ever did in the widening of Broadway. If I were someone clever,I would stop by the GLOBAL CAFE, home of delicious Filipino, Thai, and Indian food, and talk to Belin, or, Gerald about the whole shebang. Might be an intersting story there, an interesting investigation, or, an interesting case for someone...who was "interested." Nothing alleged, nothing.. just interestsing.

I would start by looking closely at just who all was involved in the purchase of Hardees, and who stood to gain. Were any of them members of the good ole boys who are after Jay Purcell, or, could family members of the good ole boys have been involved? Could be.. what do I know? Maybe nothing there, but it sure is an intersting thought.

just my opinion, nothing more, no wrong doing alleged.. just interesting.

-- Posted by Robert Goodbody on Sat, Oct 25, 2008, at 5:39 AM

The final judgment of the Court was that none of the Commission members knowingly or purposely violated the Sunshine Law. That law makes one of these two mental elements essential to finding the law was violated. If something in the closed session was knowingly and purposely discussed which should not have been, it was incumbent upon Mr. Purcell's lawyer to point it out and convince the Judge. He failed to do that.

But then, maybe he was not trying that hard, because the discussion about the County Auditor (which arguably should have been discussed in open session) was driven by Mr. Purcell's ranting and demands while in closed session to continue the discussion of the potentially improper subject(Listen to the "secret tape" if you doubt that). Zealous lawyering would have required Mr. Purcell's attorney to fight hard to establish that Mr. Purcell himself was the one who was knowingly or purposely violating the Sunshine Law. That alone shows the silliness of this lawsuit . . . and lends credence to the suspicion that the real goal of the lawsuit was to have the Judge declare that the meeting was not properly closed, and thus the secret tape recording could not have been illegal. Clever lawyering if you can pull it off, but again, Mr. Purcell's attorney failed in that effort as well.

-- Posted by Wiley Penner on Sat, Oct 25, 2008, at 6:59 AM

Let's have a day of no complaining and talk about some good news for once, if we can find any out there.

-- Posted by swampeastmissouri on Sat, Oct 25, 2008, at 7:17 AM

The good news is that there is only 10 days till the Election!More good news is that Jay Purcell will be looking for real work if he can find it!

And the better news is that another one of the commissioner clowns will be gone as well.

-- Posted by GREYWOLF on Sat, Oct 25, 2008, at 7:42 AM

Good morning everyone! Just wanted to drop in and say hello to everyone while I had the chance. Baby Trever and big sister and big brother and mommy are all doing wonderfully. Sorry it took so long to update but I have been really busy and a lot has gone on the past 12 days but they always say big events come in threes so after Thursday that is number three and I hope no more! I will try and drop in and check on a lunch and hopefully make one in a week or so. Those of you who know how to get in touch with me outside of here please feel free to do so! Miss talking with all of you and hope to make it to a lunch soon!

-- Posted by NickeyB63780 on Sat, Oct 25, 2008, at 7:43 AM

Updated email sorry bout that lilriverrat14@yahoo.com I don't have much access to the other one (sorry I forgot my password!)

-- Posted by NickeyB63780 on Sat, Oct 25, 2008, at 7:45 AM

What Am I doing up this early on a Saturday morning?

Thought for the day: "Today is only yesterdays tomorrow".

Yep,I should have stayed in bed.

-- Posted by GREYWOLF on Sat, Oct 25, 2008, at 7:46 AM

Campaign costs: It's only money. Is this an indication of Kinder's spending habits in government?

Language of the land: Of course it's racism. We must all learn the Queen's language in this glorious state.

Wind power: Only works in an election year.

-- Posted by BCStoned on Sat, Oct 25, 2008, at 9:00 AM

Hear Savage interview Democrat attorney Philip J. Berg, former deputy attorney general of Pennsylvania, about his lawsuit demanding Barack Obama present his original birth certificate to prove he was born in the United States and qualified to serve as president.


-- Posted by mobushwhacker on Sat, Oct 25, 2008, at 9:20 AM

Language of the land:

t'schunkta wikto tosi taime ...sa've he sa hoppa !!

-- Posted by ..Rick on Sat, Oct 25, 2008, at 9:29 AM

Language of the Land....

The Navajo and Siox Indians and the Constitutional Amendment to make English the official language in Missouri are two separate issues entirely.

The Navajo and Siox were here before us, but their fate is not my fault, they can thank the glorious Mr. Lincoln for their present fate.

As for today, I think it is sad that we even have to consider making English the official language of Missouri but to call it "racism" to put the issue before the voters to decide is absurd.

As a matter of fact it is "racism" to force the illegals language and culture upon us.

We need to establish a ten-year moratorium on all immigration, construct a security fence along the Mexican border to stop the Third World invasion of America, and deport all illegal aliens back to their place of origin.

It's quite simple, they chose to come to this country (whether it be legally or illegally), why should I be forced to learn THEIR language?

I'm tired of the "race" card being played, every day my culture and heritage is discriminated against we not only have "Black History Month" forced upon us we also have "Hispanic History Month" as well as "Asian-American History Month" all the while MY history is being erased, belittled, lied about and distorted.

It's really quite simple, you want to live here, follow the rules, speak the language and assimilate into OUR culture.

-- Posted by mobushwhacker on Sat, Oct 25, 2008, at 9:34 AM

mobushwhacker: If you don't like other cultures forced on you, why would you want to force your culture on others? How many people have held a gun to your head and forced you to learn another language or accept their culture? Isn't this what you are asking the state to do to others, that you feel are inferior?

-- Posted by BCStoned on Sat, Oct 25, 2008, at 10:21 AM

"Prime example of the greedy Republican mindset" Are you serious? Can't wait till the election is over! If you are seriously trying to say that the republicans are the only ones spending huge amounts of money in this election where have you been? Before you say I am "one of the right wingers", I will tell you I was. I have already cast my absentee ballot & lets just say it felt very refreshing voting for people whom I thought was best for the job instead of the "party." But really, with Obama already getting his 2 million dollar victory party celebration in Chicago ready (even Daley suggested a cheaper venue) please don't spew about the money the greedy Republicans have spent in this election. Both sides are guilty. Did you hear the other day that Obama outspent Bush on his last election? He's spent over 700 million dollars!! How sad it takes so much to be president of this country!

-- Posted by happy_go_lucky on Sat, Oct 25, 2008, at 10:25 AM

Campaign Costs...Oh, pull down your vest!

Don't Lease Vehicle...I think THEY need to consult you whenever THEY make decisions concerning vehicle procurement.

Wind Power...Read The High Frontier, by Gerard O'Neill. You will soon change your mind about wind power as the best source for energy.

Waiting At the Light...So, run it! Or, sit and gripe. Your choice, and you deal with the consequences.

-- Posted by Hawker on Sat, Oct 25, 2008, at 10:26 AM

B.C. Hillbilly...

I've known you for a long time. First of all, don't know why you keep switching your identity on here.

Second of all if you feel sooooo horrible for the plite of the "poor" Mexicans then why don't you haul your *** down there and live with them, I'm tired of accomadating them, I'm tired of having to "Press #1 for English" I shouldn't have to, their in my country, in my state not the other way around.

After all, no one is putting a gun to YOUR head and forcing you live here and speak English.

It pains me to say this to a friend, but for someone to be such a "Taft Republican" your sounding alot more like a "Bleeding Heart" cry baby Liberal.

Bottom line with you is, "Don't mess with my money, and I don't give a ****"

Well you will give a **** someday when our culture is gone, our country is gone and the Amero replaces the dollar in your bank account.

Stop acting like a "salad head" you spent too much time in California!

-- Posted by mobushwhacker on Sat, Oct 25, 2008, at 10:41 AM

t'schunkta wikto tosi taime ...sa've he sa hoppa

Ok, I googled it and still have no clue.

-- Posted by Sunshine_In_Jackson on Sat, Oct 25, 2008, at 10:42 AM

There were probably inhabitants before the Sioux and Navajo; times change. At some point there will be someone besides us.


Interesting, wish I was fluent in a second language.

-- Posted by Red_Rhino on Sat, Oct 25, 2008, at 10:47 AM


Thats because no one in here has a clue!

-- Posted by GREYWOLF on Sat, Oct 25, 2008, at 10:48 AM


Depending on usage patterns, leasing can be cheaper than owning. This is done by some Departments in Missouri. They are replacing the vehicles they own with lease vehicles as they wear out.

-- Posted by Red_Rhino on Sat, Oct 25, 2008, at 10:52 AM

t'schunkta wikto tosi taime ...sa've he sa hoppa

..ogala sioux , for Bloodyhand ,(my avatar)--t'schunkta wikto ....where has he gone ?

try google for Crazy Horse , also Bloodyhand ,

also t'schunkta wikto

-- Posted by ..Rick on Sat, Oct 25, 2008, at 10:55 AM


It’s interesting that the caller used France as an example for the use of wind energy in their comments against nuclear energy, when in fact; more than 85% of France’s energy comes from nuclear power plants.

-- Posted by concerned4all on Sat, Oct 25, 2008, at 11:12 AM

Sometimes I feel like a homeless orphan when discussing energy issues. It's certainly not as exciting to many as the recent political topics, but I suggest that people need to become more aware of what is going on in the utilities markets since this is not only going to affect one's home utility bill, but also affect the utility bills of the restaurants, stores, and other services people use, as well as the manufacturing plants whose products people buy. Given that many people's incomes are relatively fixed, the more that is spent directly or indirectly for energy will leave less to spend on other things.

Suggest that low-cost energy is a key component towards enabling a lower-than-average cost of living, as well as for being able to attract new industries to the region. Missouri is positioned very well as far as the state's average cost of electricity as compared to the national average. http://www.eia.doe.gov/fuelelectric.html It would be interesting to know which 26 states have renewable measures and where they rank in average electricity costs.

It's difficult to argue against the concept of renewable energy, particularly with the emotional factors utilized by the proponents. However, it is also difficult to find good data about construction costs per kilowatt, utilization percentages, plant siting, and land-use needs for comparison against similar parameters for conventional sources towards estimating a true end-user cost for each resource.

Would it be less expensive per kilowatt to install renewable sources, or to spend that money towards continuing to clean up the conventional sources - coal, natural gas, or nuclear-fueled plants?

At what point or percentage will renewable sources begin to affect the reliability of the grid? Presently, I am assuming that wind, followed by solar, will make up the bulk of new renewable generation capacity. With conventional sources, one can 'drive the bus' by increasing or decreasing the power generation at will in order to match the load demand. With renewable sources, one is pretty much just riding along on Mother Nature's bus, converting whatever wind or sun happens to be available at that point in time. Instead of adjusting the power supply to meet the demand, things could get to a point where the demand would have to be curtailed in order to meet the available supply - not a good market condition.

The grass may be 'greener' on the other side, but what is that green grass gonna cost?

-- Posted by fxpwt on Sat, Oct 25, 2008, at 12:42 PM

This whole "morass" as some of you have termed it, would not have taken place, if the Sunshine Law had been followed, as Jay Purcell has pointed out.

The "fact" that Jay's attorney "failed" to convince the judge of that fact, is ridiculous. I think that we should take a closer look at the Judge. Just look at him. Not a very intelligent look on his face, now is it? I feel that Jay Purcell will be vindicated in appeal. Even if that should not happen, we, ourselves can judge the particulars and determine what happened.

That a Stoddard County judge has ruled against Jay's case, is not a big issue with me. Many of these local yokel judges bend with the wind so to speak. They all know each other, the know the county commissioners in the surrounding counties, and they may be even of the same political mindset. They may see nothing wrong with some of the more "prominent" citizens taking an olgarchic role in their community, as it is "best" for good governance, in their opinion.

How do we not know that this Judge Mitchell is not one of, or, sympathetic with "the good ole boy" model of doing things?

When you listen to SHUT UP and NO ARTICLE RAN at Commissioner Purcell's website, then you get a very good idea what we all are talking about here. You both have made a good effort to discredit Jay, but the horse is already out of the barn on this issue, and nothing that you can do, nothing that Judge Mitchell can do, rushing his decision out just before the election, nothing can deter us from the truth.

Thank you, Jay Purcell. People who are not even in your district, have told me that they WISH that they could VOTE for YOU.. The feeling IN your District, is the same, you do have strong support and our gratitude for fighting this fight for us.

Listen to SHUT UP www.jaypurcell.com

Listen to NO ARTICLE RAN www.jaypurcell.com

Then, YOU decide.

-- Posted by Robert Goodbody on Sat, Oct 25, 2008, at 12:58 PM


"What is it going to cost?" That is always or nearly always the question. While many clamor for "green energy" they are not willing to pay for it. I don't think enough people who advocate for these technologies have done enough research and are in favor of it because it politically correct. I don't think anyone is opposed to emerging technology and renewable energy if it is cost effective and dependable which to this point it does not seem to be.

Of course I am as guilty as anyone and have not researched this thoroughly, so I MAY be wrong, just an opinion. Oh and to me at least a welcome change from all of the political stuff.

-- Posted by Red_Rhino on Sat, Oct 25, 2008, at 1:07 PM


I respect your research and competent grasp of the facts that you uncover.

Of course, the "timing" of this good ole boy Stoddard County Judge's ruling in Jay Purcell's Sunshine Law case, is of importance and concern to us, as you pointed out.

I do not understand how facts can be acknowledged by the Judge, then ignored when he rendered his opinion.

Therefore, we must be the judge. Listen to SHUT UP, and NO ARTICLE RAN at www.jaypurcell.com, then, you decide.

-- Posted by Robert Goodbody on Sat, Oct 25, 2008, at 1:13 PM


I know Judge Mitchell and you don't but the fact that you don't know him does not stop you from saying things like he "might be" one thing or the other and "who knows". I know of no reliable way of discerning someone's intelligence from how they look, but apparently have have developed that talent, you should be rich and have your own TV show.

-- Posted by Red_Rhino on Sat, Oct 25, 2008, at 1:14 PM

How many deaths or injuries occured as a result of Three Mile Island? I guess this is a case of zero being one too many...

-- Posted by bobby62914 on Sat, Oct 25, 2008, at 1:49 PM

Re: Waiting at the light

Not sure if it applies here - but have found that it's important to know where the sensor wires are embedded in the pavement, and to stop accordingly. Not too hard to find - just look for the pavement cut marks in the lane - should form a loop - believe the goal is to stop mostly within the loop.

Have seen people pull up and stop either just beyond or just before this loop, and yes, they do sit and wait until either a car pulls up behind them or their impatience gets the best of them and they run the light.

Also, I have a utility vehicle with aluminum alloy wheels that sits up higher than stock height. I've noticed there are some lights in town that I just can't trigger, no matter where I stop. Naturally, I've learned to avoid these lights.

-- Posted by fxpwt on Sat, Oct 25, 2008, at 1:59 PM


Out of curiosity what kind of Utility Vehicle do you have?

-- Posted by Red_Rhino on Sat, Oct 25, 2008, at 2:34 PM

Red -

It's a Jeep CJ with a 4" lift and 33x12.50s

-- Posted by fxpwt on Sat, Oct 25, 2008, at 2:39 PM


Heck, you could just skip the lights altogether and go cross country with that thing.

-- Posted by Red_Rhino on Sat, Oct 25, 2008, at 2:49 PM

Red -

Getting too old for that. The fine quality of many roads around here provide all the off-road ride experience I can handle :-)

If any official wants to go on a 'seat of the pants' tour of the roads - this is the perfect vehicle. On parts of Lexington, for example - a seat belt is more than just a legal requirement. It gets awful tricky to drive whenever one isn't in the driver's seat.

Fortunately, it's a weekend toy, and not a daily driver.

-- Posted by fxpwt on Sat, Oct 25, 2008, at 3:01 PM


I know what you mean, can’t handle the bouncing around anymore either. I am to the age where more “civilized” transport is a necessity.

Lexington is a bear in my stock 4WD truck, can only imagine what it is like in your Jeep. I would drive my wife’s car, but afraid I might lose it in one of the cracks. Well that and it is a “car”; not quite to that point yet.

-- Posted by Red_Rhino on Sat, Oct 25, 2008, at 3:14 PM

Green energy: California can easily, maybe not easily, produce electricity from soft volcano steam turbines. It produces about 5% of its electricity needs this way, or enough for San Francisco. It hopes to up that number to 10% by 2010. There are many different ways to produce green energy but there are rules and regulations in place that seem to work against it.

Ask the environmentalists if they would be willing to cap the energy from steam generated in Yellowstone. There is plenty of energy there to tap.

-- Posted by BCStoned on Sat, Oct 25, 2008, at 3:23 PM

I think one of the misconceptions with renewable energy is that since the 'fuel' is free, then the power will be low-cost. I suppose it's up to the individual to decide what low-cost means to him/her.

Just messing with some numbers, mainly because it's a really slow day and raining up here -

From http://www.eia.doe.gov/cneaf/electricity...

Missouri's net generation for 2006 is given as 91,686,343 megawatt-hours, (1 megawatt-hour = 1,000 kilowatt-hours = 1,000,000 watt-hours - or the energy to service about 750 homes for 1 hour, on average).

OK, so Proposition C is calling for 15% renewable content. That would be 13,752,951 megawatt-hours (MWh) of the 2006 generated electricity, neglecting the 2-3% growth in annual electric consumption typically seen.

Just for grins - assume all of this renewable energy would be generated in Missouri and would come from wind. 13,752,951 MWh divided by 8760 hours per year yields 1569 MWh per hour on average.

Let's assume that for economies of scale, the larger turbines are used, such as shown here:


Let's also assume that the average turbine size will be 2 megawatts, and the average acreage required per unit will be 40 acres - taken from here http://highlandwindfarm.com/faq.htm, and the average capacity factor will be 30% - taken from here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wind_power It is acknowledged that the actual footprint of the turbine will only be on the order of 50 feet square and the remainder of the land can continue to be used for farming, etc.

1569 MWh divided by the 30% capacity factor would suggest that 5230 megawatts (MW) of generator nameplate capacity would need to be installed.

5230 MW of capacity divided by an average turbine size of 2 MW would call for 2615 individual turbines to be installed.

2615 turbines requiring an average of 40 acres of space for proper airflows, drafting, and wind approach would result in 104,600 acres of space needed. At approximately 640 acres per square mile - suggesting approximately 163 square miles of space needed. IIRC and sometimes I don't, the city of Cape Girardeau had a land area of about 22 square miles in the early 1980s (just useless trivia that's stuck in my brain - won't come out).

Of course, with all the assumptions made, holes can easily be shot all throughout this quick-n-dirty analysis. The message is that this proposition will call for a major dedicated undertaking that will not come cheap - acquiring all the rights-of-way and leases, purchasing and installing all of the equipment, running transmission lines to each of the units, etc.

Is this really where we want to go? Suggest we should be careful what we ask for, or in this case, demand. We just might get it.

-- Posted by fxpwt on Sat, Oct 25, 2008, at 5:40 PM


Not surprisingly, much if not most of that is over my head, but my take is that what "might" be "practical" in one location/state may not be in another. I lived in the Kansas City area for a while and there was ALWAYS a wind blowing up there off of the Kansas plains and it about drove me crazy as I literally hate the wind. Kansas and other areas/states may very well be able to generate enough wind energy to "possibly" make wind energy "practical" while others will not.

One would also have to balance out the value of the land taken out of "production" for other uses.

A lot of things sound good in theory.

-- Posted by Red_Rhino on Sat, Oct 25, 2008, at 6:54 PM

I have a dream, a vision - eh, maybe just a thinking cap that's cranked on a bit too tight -

The next environmental crisis will be Global Speed Change - where the earth's rotational speed is found to be decreasing due to all these wind brakes, a.k.a. wind-powered generators. No, wait, the earth's speed is increasing due to all these airfoils anchored to the earth. No, wait ... :-)~

-- Posted by fxpwt on Sat, Oct 25, 2008, at 7:32 PM


that sounds like an old Twilight Zone TV show...

-- Posted by ..Rick on Sat, Oct 25, 2008, at 8:01 PM

Perhaps I do have an unconventional way of looking at things - such as the observation that the 'feel-good' experience from the 'green' party the night before may be more than offset by the hangover consequences the morning, days, or years after.

For some, the pains of the hangover may be worth euphoria of the party atmosphere. For others, maybe not. Either way, once committed to the party, one can't easily back out.

Just encourage people to know and to fully understand what they would be signing up for. Picture if you will.... :-)

-- Posted by fxpwt on Sat, Oct 25, 2008, at 9:47 PM

Campaign costs

And it doesn't EVER happen from anyone on the other side of the isle. What an obtuse mode of thinking. Hasn't Nanc Putzlosi made a few stops for Dems as well? Did she take the cash out of her own pocket, along with her request for a larger jet to haul her and her entourage between San Fran and DC?

Just checking for the Spin Doctors to come on through and justify someones usage.

Holy double standard kids.

-- Posted by fajar on Sun, Oct 26, 2008, at 12:04 AM

Red Rhino,

I know that Mitchell is a Democrat, was not really a trial lawyer, did mostly research for corporate cases, and, now, he is known for speedy judgments. I strongly question his timing of the judgment, and his wild intreptation of the law, in regard to intent.

Thanks, for suggesting it, but I am already rich, and I do have my own TV show.

-- Posted by Robert Goodbody on Sun, Oct 26, 2008, at 2:17 AM


I do appreciate a good comeback.

Actually, I have spent so much time in court rooms across the state that rulings or timing of these no longer surprise me. I have known and worked around many judges and in all my time have only run across a couple whose integrity was unquestionable and who were not influenced by the milieu in which they worked.

One thing all judges I have known have in common however is that regardless of their level of competence or allegiances they have, above all else they hate to be over turned on appeal and will do almost anything to avoid that including rendering a judgment that they might not want to, but that they know will pass legal muster.

I guess time will tell if Mitchell has managed that. While like you, I too am rich, famous and have my own TV show, I am thankfully not an attorney, so I really don't know if he has or hasn't.

-- Posted by Red_Rhino on Sun, Oct 26, 2008, at 11:35 AM

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