Speak out 9/17/08

good morning everyone

Spending money -- the new pick-up for the commissioner

is a tax write off ....

Hello Rick and MeLange

I doubt if Mr. Rust is kicking anything. Governor Palin did a fine job, in a hostile environment. We hope some day big media will put the junior senator from Chicago through a similar grilling and see if he responds as well.

And ‘controlling Congress’ is an oxymoron for sure. The voters ‘control’ Congress. If you think the Executive Branch controls Congress, you need to read up on separation of powers. McCain’s 90 percent is not a zero sum game. He has also supported a number of bi-partisan initiatives that have proven him to be more independent of party politics than most. Whereas Senator Obama, in his brief tenure in Congress, has voted with the liberal party line 96 percent and has not stuck his neck out for anything substantial. In reality, Senator McCain along with his bold running mate, Governor Palin, will change those things that need to be changed, improve things that need to be improved and lead our country, as well as the GOP, strong into the future. Senator Obama has shown no signs or inkling to change anything – at least for the better.

Thanks Twiggy...I enjoy it. Been setting aside am reflection time for, hum...about 20 years now. Just a little way to put things into perspective before I start the day.

Good morning every bozzy. Well, I have a special little message for Just_Me_and_My_Fuzzy_Alien_Bunny.

Things aren't really looking so well are they? After all, Palin has lost 10 popularity points in just three days. Additionally, appears that her pork barrel spending on Tanning Beds and depression meds just solidifies the national consensus that she is just some crazy old fuddy duddy.

Now, seeing McCain himself has been labeled as McNuts be most of his peers, it does appear that the two peas in a pod were meant for one another. But that doesn't really make them "electable" does it? After all, with all this talk of change and reform and dispositioning themselves from the Republican party...it does seem to create a little conundrum (sp) for you and all of your so called *snicker* Republican/Conservative friends in the SO forum.

Yes...you know what I mean. If YOU and your peers vote for McCain and Palin, well....you're really not Republican OR Conservative are you? Radical or even *snicker* Liberal, but certainly NOT Republican or Conservative. After all, even Carl Rove and Rush Limbaugh realize this.

Now, if we want to get to the nitty gritty of things, it's quite obvious that McCain and Palin represent the new age of Socialist and Communist Reformers. Yes, they want their CHANGE, but it's not American. It's the "Fundamentals" *snicker* of Socialist doctrine that both Palin and McCain represent...You know...weirdos.

Anyhow, I'll let you and Babe stew upon the socialist values of your new party. Don't worry, I'm here in the shadows still revealing all of the McCain/Palin Dirt. Don't worry though, I'll be sure to make a special appearance the day of the November election...in order to glout, and rub it in. You know....basically crucify you with all of the rhetorical hot air you have been spewing in my absence.

Have fun on your weekly excursion. I'll be watching. ;o)

...i don't reckon Obama/Biden is the answer either .

Rick.Scaggs,

Commissioners are elected. Purcell suggested web casting, Jones (and crony, Bock) shot the idea down... last I heard.

Thinking...Matt Sanders posted something in his blog about potentially airing public meetings on-line in the future?

Rick said, "i don't reckon Obama/Biden is the answer either."

Sorry to burst your little bubble, but I'm afraid they are.

442,

Have to go with Rick on this one.

***Headline***

Women's rights groups endorse Obama for president

http://news.yahoo.com/story//ap/20080916/ap_on_el_pr/obama_womens_groups

LOL!

So...what is Palin?

Palin: Another Republicon Conceived failed policy. LOL Oh McStupid, when will you ever ever learn. The Conservatives have just made you look like a fool again. *snicker*

*mars* for Babe.

TJ

there are only 2 main parties to pick from for

president ...in my opinion , neither of these

2 main parties will be any different then what we've

had in the past ....i don't like Obama or McCain

as far as all of that goes ...

be carefull what u wish for--u just might get it...

Melange said, "Just me and my opinion is NOT allowing any kindness or respect to shine in the forum. IMHO"

That's what you get when you have a republicon dominated forum. Additionally, it's come to my attention that NONE of the republicon posters in the forum can be trusted. Lie...about something serious? Absolutely they would. Funny...Alien Bunny..I mean oops...Just Me, said he was going to be out of town for a week last night.

"Gotta' go. I'll be off the net for about a week. Have a great evening!

-- Posted by Just_Me_and_My_Opinion on Tue, Sep 16, 2008, 4:45 pm CDT"

Seems I've heard Funny Alien Bunny make the same statements...but oh well...

I'm sure he'll chime in once he reads my little message for him *wink* *snicker* *mars* *milky way* *three musketeers*

Agreed that McCain was not among my top picks either, but for me he is still better than Obama. I thought about voting for third party candidate, but didn't find anything better.

TJ_442,

I hope you are wrong...Fuzzy has/had a heart and I don't think he would lie about his military experience. (But did note, Just me and my opinion...jumped into the forum, right after Fuzzy's reincarnation was banned...aka Instructor.)

Doesn't matter...Fuzzy/Instructor...IF you are Just me and my opinion...Shame, shame, shame! ! Gomer Pyle

...it must be a full moon out or the fanatics are on the

loose again ....

i'll sure as hell be glad when Nov gets here and gone so

a person knows it's just a full moon ....

Well, the market is going down the tank again thanks to the careless and wreckless governmental bailout of AIG. You know, the type of "big government" bailouts that the Republicon party is supposed to be against.

Me'Lange,

I don't know Instructor personally, but from what I remember of his posts, I don't believe he had the ability or patience to do what Just_Me does, nor is the writing similar. Writing styles are difficult to disguise, though some few can. of course you may be right as you know them better than I.

I don't know Instructor personally, but from what I remember of his posts, I don't believe he had the ability or patience to do what Just_Me does, nor is the writing similar. Writing styles are difficult to disguise, though some few can. of course you may be right as you know them better than I.

-- Posted by Red_Rhino on Wed, Sep 17, 2008, 8:37 am CDT

Red...I didn't think so either....but if you recall. A couple of weeks ago there was a terrible tiff on here in which Just Me was part of. He was name calling, degrading, and being very hateful. The Missourian removed his posts because they were so awful. Sounded just like Fuzzy Alien Bunny.

T J,

Do you have someone on the inside who has told you whom is going to win?

Rick,

I to will be glad when this election is done, just hope and pray the person who will do the best job for the people will be in office.

Red,

I don't want Obama in either, I don't like everything McCain says and does at times also, just not sure about voting for him. I think I already know whom I am going to vote for, but don't want to get into a big argument with some who always like to fight or argue. It doesn't matter which one I would say, because someone would pick a fight regardless of who gets chosen. Does that make sense?? LOL Hope so. Well I really have to leav now or will be late, see you good folks later.

Twiggy

442,

Six or seven, not sure, but I have never been banned or goaded and come back. Heck I may change again; try not to take all this too seriously and I am not delusional to think I have any special knowledge or insight or what I say will make any difference.

Rick posted

neither of these

2 main parties will be any different then what we've

had in the past ....

You are correct about McCain (90% with Bush), but how can you determine this concerning Obama. He is totally different, and he is indeed a vote for change. All of the checks and balances we have placed in our government ensure it will be hard to change quickly, but at least with Obama there is movement in the correct direction.

I agree with the comment on Scott County and the money trouble. This administration is showing poor planning and management in each and every department. The one's that are suffering are the taxpayers. It is time for a CHANGE! We need honest individuals in office and not the good ole boys that we have in office now. Since they have come into office, this county has went downhill and they want to lay the blame on loss of taxes. They knew this tax was ending but they didn't try to conserve money. Our roads are in poor condition, weeds are high, our county has the name of "not cooperating" with other agencies - thanks to the Sheriff's Department and the administration keeping their head in the sand and just keep on spending the taxpayers money. Where was the Sheriff when the power went down. E911 was loosing power and they couldn't cover half the county although the County spent money to update the center and get state of the art equipment. IT IS TIME TO CHANGE THIS GOVERNMENT before we become the next broke county.

Just got finished reading an article in the Washington Post about the refusal of Gov. Palins staff to testify in the "Troopergate" inquiry. The Republican Committee sent a group of lawyers to Alaska to take over for her lawyer and try to stop this investigation. Why??

Gov. Palin has said on numerous occasions she welcomes the investigation, she wants it in the open and she did nothing wrong. If this is true, why not tell the Republican Committee to let it run and get it over with. I have some suspicions why she doesn't want to tell the Committee to stop with the interference.

I have to ask the question. What do you want to see? This thing cleared up and go into the election with a clear mind of what happened or to have after the election, especially if McCain/Palin win, find the VP is a criminal and will then be removed. Country First?? I don't think so.

And to all the spin masters and hard core Republicans who don't like facts but would rather listen to Sean Hannity or Rush. Tell me why you don't want the truth known before election day. And please don't give me the partisan bull. Facts are facts. Is not that what you guys have always preached. Come on be fair and honest. Show some common sense and get the facts out.

To all vets: Please get informed. Your losing your benefits on a daily basis.

Guess I have been stupid too long. Later hopefully but one never knows.

"Free" health care won't cost half our income. If we weren't spending so much money in Iraq, we could spend more money on our own country. Obama wants to cut taxes on the middle class. He said he would raise taxes on people making 250K a year or more, which would make them like they were during the Clinton years.

TJ_442: If Just_Me were here, he would attack your post viciously, maybe even citing data that hasn't been published yet. Since he isn't around, MediaMessiah will probably fill in for him--they have the same level of (in)sanity when it comes to politics.

Today's combined polls show a tie again (http://www.cnn.com/...), reflecting the disastrous effect that Sarah Pain's interview had on voters’ minds. People are now realizing that she's not as smart as previously thought, and that her folksy and colorful rhetoric won't really help to fix any real problems. She still appeals to the right-wing con base because of her extreme views, but there's a good chance that Roe vs. Wade won't be THE central issue in this election as it has been in the last two. It's getting harder and harder for Mr. Maverick to dodge his party's huge responsibility for the financial crisis that is upon us. Thanks to the GOP and Mr. Bush's failed policies, many Americans are now having to choose between paying the mortgage and filling the tank to go to work, so just how much trouble do people need to be in before they give up the abortion issue and start voting to fix the real problems?

Sarah Pain's rainbow is certainly disappearing fast. If she gives another interview (scripted or not, she can't help it) the GOP will need to get Karl Rove in the spin room fast to do some damage control, because that tie in the polls will be short lived.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/09/16/prominent-clinton-backer-and-dnc-member-to-endorse-mccain/

Interesting article. People are seeing the light.

mediamessiah,

Agreed, I dealt with a lot of mentally ill individuals with a surprising amount demonstrating very high intelligence. Paranoid Schizophrenics often exhibited very good verbal and writing skill while being highly represented in crimes of violence. Unfortunately most mentally ill individuals don't know it and often don't receive proper care. I may be one of them and no one has told me. To be clear, not knocking those with such problems, just need to keep in mind.

mediamessiah said: "so my political stance is opposite from yours and you label it as insanity. so people who disagree with you are insane?"

Nope, everyone has the right to disagree. It's just that you go the extra mile by by posting demeaning, even racist, comments.

mediamessiah said: "there will be change but do you

want a change towards socialism? towards "free" medical care at the expense of half your income?"

The alternative is to continue giving half of your income to ExxonMobil and Halliburton, and then some more to bail out banks that grew accostumed to dodge responsibility and accountability. If the Supreme CEO of the country (Bush) can get away with the things he does, why would the CEOs of these financial giants, who are his friends, think otherwise?

John: Don't buy gas, walk.

John McCain has already been picked by the MSM for the presidency. Don't waste your vote by voting for anyone else. Lay off Sarah Palin, not long ago before she was introduced to neo-conism, she actually was conservative.

I'm not who I say I am.

Unilib,

You posted:

Today's combined polls show a tie again (http://www.cnn.com/...), reflecting the disastrous effect that Sarah Pain's interview had on voters’ minds. People are now realizing that she's not as smart as previously thought, and that her folksy and colorful rhetoric won't really help to fix any real problems.

-- Posted by unilib on Wed, Sep 17, 2008, 9:24 am CDT

Well, I hate to tell you, but if Just Me & My were here, you'd get a different (right wing) poll thrown back at you for that. And we have all learned that Just Me & My's sources for his polls are absolute, right?

So, your poll would be negligent in his eyes. I can't let you go on thinking you've trumped him!

I think yesterday when Just me & My spoke of McCain's evolving ideas (flip-flopping), we pointed out one of Just Me & My's character flaws. He can't accept or admit that McCain could have a perceived negative trait, flip-flopping. I would hold Just me & My's opinions in higher regard if I thought he wasn't so extremely closed to the idea that McCain has flip-flopped, as has everyone in politics. Just me & My tried to extol upon McCain a virtue (evolving ideas) rather than owining up that he has flip-flopped.

Just me & My would rather blame you for bringing up the term flip-flop, or spin it so that McCain has evolved instead. That's not reasonable, it's irrational.

Pups,

The first bailout I can remember was Chrysler under the Carter administration; didn't like it then and don't like it now.

oldvet said: "And to all the spin masters and hard core Republicans who don't like facts but would rather listen to Sean Hannity or Rush. Tell me why you don't want the truth known before election day."

I have a feeling you won't get a straight answer to this one.

GoFigure said: "So, your poll would be negligent in his eyes. I can't let you go on thinking you've trumped him! "

LOL, and I thought I would get away with it this once. Even when he isn't here, I can still sense his spooky presence like a ghostly cloud in the shape of a big Karl Rove's head floating above us and invalidating all logic. Should I look for a poll in the Fox News web site to appease the ghost?

GoFigure said: "Just me & My would rather blame you for bringing up the term flip-flop, or spin it so that McCain has evolved instead. That's not reasonable, it's irrational."

I call it insane (Dems flip-flop, Repubs evolve? Dems teen pregnancy is bad parenting, Repubs teen pregnancy is a blessing?), but I've been reprimanded for using that word here. Uh, oh, I better go, the ghostly head of Karl Rove is looking angry.

Red,

Thanks. Have a great day.

mediamessiah and Hilleco,

Thanks for your take on it as well.

Gotta get my act on the road, have a great day everyone.

"The issue of economics is not something I've understood as well as I should," McCain said. "I've got Greenspan's book."

-John McCain

Yeah, pretty unusual, most lie about or exagerate their abilities/expertise.

"So I think (Obama) definitely has convinced people that he stands for change and for hope, and I can't wait to see what he stands for." -- Susan Sarandon

Food for thought...

McCain Campaign Self Destructs 9-16-08

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1CLtsWqmbI

Romney on McCAIN: "HUGE MISTAKE!!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UY5Plqs5d98

McCain Challenge: Prove I'm a Flip-Flopper

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwMyYaTvjXY

Biden Slams McCain for being Profoundly Out of Touch on Economy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcDpLlRTO0k

hilleco,

the money supply is tightening up. i see progress in that the Fed resisted temptation to lower interest rates and in fact thought seriously about raising the rates. i think the latter would be good to get the inflation nonsense a bit more under control and allow the market to correct itself. while the Fed is giving AIG a nice cushiony spot to fall at least they did allow Lehman Bros. to take a hit and would not have helped Merrill Lynch either.

Back in the 80's or whenever all those S&L failures the economy certainly survived that. i think this will be much the same. in a couple year (no matter who is in the white house) we will look back and say "Do you remember when AIG was in trouble and all those other financial institutions were tanking?"

Pups,

I've noticed that Silent and Just are very, very rarely posting at the same time...almost always...back to back. Like silent takes the am shift and Just the pm and vica versa. Just an observation.

-- Posted by Me'Lange on Wed, Sep 17, 2008, 8:51 am CDT

Wrong observation MeLange:;

I have to work 8 to 5 everyday!!

Some days it just aint worth jumpin in!!

While I am reflecting on famous quotes...I dedicate this one to all of the "Right Wing" posters on SO:

Loyalty to a petrified opinion never yet broke a chain or freed a human soul.

~Mark Twain~

If you want change....try thinking differently, or opening your mind to new ideas and possiblities...it's liberating.....

"Another one bites the dust!" Queen AIG

The Fed's new role: Sugar daddy

Posted Sep 16 2008, 06:15 PM by Andrew Horowitz

(msn money)

http://blogs.moneycentral.msn.com/topstocks/archive/2008/09/16/the-fed-is-not-our-sugardaddy.aspx

SWBG,

Surely the savings and loan crisis was a systemic issue (over 700 small institutions), but I think we are facing a much larger scale "tragedy of commons" right now. (Kind of like, the affect of the flu v. Level III, Grade B Cancer) Plus, IMO...the overall health of our economy was in much better condition during the 1980's, when the savings and loan crisis began. For example: higher savings/investment rate, less credit per household et al. (Kind of like a healthy teenager getting the flu v. an 86 year old with serious health issues getting the flu.)

Red,

"Yeah, pretty unusual, most lie about or exagerate their abilities/expertise."

Found this comment interesting, are you speaking of polititians purely or people in general. Because if it was the later, I have not perceived most individuals I've encountered behaving that way. ~shrugs~

i wonder if all of these goods that

say "Made in China" aren't selling due to the

slow down in the USA ?

wouldn't our nasty economy hurt the "Made in China"

on their stock markets?

doesn't the fuel cost to send goods to the USA

by boat cause a loss of money to "Made in China" ?

Rick,

I'm sure it has had some effect on the economy of China. As for fuel prices to ship not so much. Say it costs an additional $1,000,000, due to fuel, to export a ship full of automobiles. The ships can carry 5,000 autos. That's only a $200 per vehicle increase.

I assume the importer pays the shipping cost in most cases. Remember we always owned what was "on the water."

Hilleco,

"Believe it or not!" Ripley's (Yeah, still having way too much fun with that list I ran across this morning.)

We do agree once in a while. :-)

Okay, gots to get busy. Thanks for the nice break.

unilib,

Okay...one more...hehe (thinking about the "gotta go, gotta go"...catch phrase)...

After posting a few thoughts on the local immigration issues...I received an interesting email from someone who retired from government employment and has much more/better quality information about the immigration issue than I ever cared to research.

Paraphrasing his thoughts (and hope I capture their meaning/intent well)...Basically stated that while on the surface our representatives appear to be concerned about this issue...underneath...little funding is provided to enforce our legislation AND our economy does support/depend on lower income jobs and illegal immigrants fill that void.

Me'Lange,

I should have been more precise, I was referring to politicians only.

Red...

If they (leftists) were close minded, then possibly...but I have noticed that most (liberals) on the SO forum are willing to debate (which requires listening), where as the "right sliders" seem less willing to debate, and more willing to preach!

There are exceptions of course, you are one...

Theorist,

I think we often confuse and mix the terms “debate” and “argue”. They may sound the same, but really aren’t. I have mentioned on here that my best friend is a self avowed “Liberal”. Once while “debating” her I asked her why she was not willing to listen to any other position or accept that she might possibly be wrong. She told me that she had already studied all of the important issues and made up her mind, so there was no real need to consider anything else. The only issue on which she ever changed her mind was firearms ownership. She was absolutely adamant that no one needed to own a firearm and that the mere possession of one changed an individual’s personality and made them more likely to commit violence. When she and her husband were threatened, I got a call to borrow a gun. When I told her I could not do so legally, she couldn’t believe it, she was outraged. I explained to her the procedure and she obtained two the next day.

It has been my experience that being close minded is not exclusive to any political persuasion and may not necessarily always be a bad thing, but that would take too much time to explain, sorry for the long post.

While the ruling of the SCOTUS in reference to the 2nd Amendment was a welcome relief, it was a marginal victory in that it did not go far enough and left the door wide open when they stated that it did not preclude "REASONABLE" regulations. I believe this will wind up back in the courts as is evidenced by DC's resistance and the ongoing desire by some jurisdictions to pass "reasonable" restrictions. On this issue, I am not "open minded".

I am not open minded about the Bill of Rights. They are not up for interpretation.

“If you don’t know where you are going, any road will get you there.”

To show my ignorance, What is NICS?

Red Rhino

Something I have always wondered. How does the background check show if a person has mental health issues if medical records are private?

Babe,

The NICS "Improvement Act of 2007" was passed in the wake of the Virginia Tech Shootings and gives BATFE access to many mental health records that would indicate a person should not possess weapons.

Ike posted: "The issue of economics is not something I've understood as well as I should," McCain said. "I've got Greenspan's book." -John McCain, self-professed economic ignoramus and GOP presidential candidate.

And Black_Shadow said: "That is the second time that quote has been used today and repetition has not proven to make it more relevant."

I think this is VERY relevant and, especially today, it deserves the repetition. Just turn the TV on or open your newspaper and you'll see why. And then watch these:

22 Times McCain Has Said Fundamentals of Economy Are Strong

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykcfPtouNYk

Bad News for Senator "Fundamentals are Strong" McCain...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEpRt_pXSVk

More McCain Economy Lies

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgcgoZx-Yj0

Bottom line: Mr. Maverick doesn't know CR@P about the economy. He can't see a problem when the whole financial system is collapsing in front of him. How can anyone expect him to fix it? And consider that his economic team would would be full of the same GOP "experts" who brought this disaster to the American people. Voting for McCain is like allowing the fox to guard the hen house.

One more:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MciijxpueNE

It will take 30 years to fix what the GOP has done in the past 8... what a legacy.

Red

I loved your story about your liberal friend and firearms. It reminded me when Hurricane Andrew hit my sister's small town in Louisiana. Of course, all power was off and few in her isolated subdivision neighborhood had generators. The next afternoon the sheriff deputy came boating down the bayou with a bullhorn telling everyone that looters had been seen but the department did not have the manpower to catch them all. He said they would be on their own for protection.

I think you can guess what happened. The folks (few) who would never, ever consider having a firearm rushed over to those who did have firearms begging for one. The neighborhood men got together for a meeting and made the unarmed folks take extra shifts in the 24 hour guard they established for protection. LOL

I have pictures of my sister and several of the neighborhood ladies sitting in her yard, armed.

Unlib,

I am not going to get into a drawn out debate on this issue. McCain said he does not understand as much about economics as I should. If answered honestly this would apply to most candidates for the office. I don’t know that we have ever elected an economist as President. From what I have been told Jimmy Carter was one of the most intelligent presidents we have ever had and that did not work out so well. No one person can possess all of the knowledge they need to run this country and that is the reason he has a cabinet and we also have the congress. You act like we are electing a king who can dictate what is and is not going to happen. I don’t care what McCain or Obama say, what happens economically in this country is going to be out of their hands. Neither one will have the authority, power, ability or ignorance to have much impact one way or the other.

Dear poster buddies,

Me'Lange and her volunteer buddies need some help and/or direction in the medical legal fields.

One of our ideas has taken on a life of its own...provided a NO cost medical clinic for a day. We have shifted this to a stand-alone project and are shooting for Make a Difference Day 2009.

Several of us had seen a 60 minutes program with such a program...RAM. Here is there web-link.

http://www.ramusa.org/learn/media.html

I emailed RAM early this morning...and this was the founder's reply.

"RAM would certainly consider a visit to Cape Girardeau with a RAM team of doctors, dentists and optometrists. However they would be licensed in states other than Missouri. If RAM will be allowed in with out of state providers, plus MO licensed providers that wish to volunteer, we will be happy to do a complete weekend and provide all equipment etc.

Let me know.

Thanks,

Stan Brock

Founder RAM"

All I can say is WOW! IF we (our community) can pull this off successfully, think how many individuals currently without health, dental and vision care can be helped.

However, that obsticle Mr. Brock mentioned is wayyyy outside my area of expertise...someone Please HELP us!!! Any direction, advise would be very appreciated!

Babe,

Scenarios like this repeat themselves in hurricanes and riots, yet many still do not accept that firearms ownership can be a good thing. I do not advocate that everyone or even most possess a firearm, I just don't want them to interfere with my right to do so. I know however they will continue to do so and expect someone to pull their fat out of the fire when things go bad and of course we will.

In that case I am a French-German-Swedish-Dutch-Cherokee Indian-Caucasian American. And I want to be referred as such for now on.

"No comparison"

You foolishly said,

"WHEN THE Democrats start comparing Jesus to Barack Obama, it's time to get worried. Jesus was the son of God and teacher of God's Word, not a community leader."

Not one Democrat has referred to Senator Barack Obama as a community "leader." Senator Barack Obama was a community "activist." Jesus Christ was a comminity ACTIVIST, as well.

You people who like to talk about God's Word, in your phony holier than thou attitudes, whould really read and understand the New Testament, and get down off of your high horses, while you are at it. Christ does not like hyprocracy. He likes hands and hearts that "do" for ALL His children on earth, not mouths that merely "spew" meaningless, superficial, platitutdes and Bible verses.

I would question as to whether you are a true Christian. I see no Christian spirit within you. You talk alot about Christ, but you do not walk like Him.

Amen.

YOU FOOLISH SLAVES TO THE FAT CATS ON WALL STREET, WILL GO TO WORK TOMORROW TO PAY OFF THE BAD GAMBLING DEBTS OF BEAR STEARNS, AND AIG, TWO OF THE REPUBLICANS MOST FAVOIRTE CHARIITES FOR YOUR TAX DOLLARS.

Work you a*s off, pay your taxes, so Republicans can cover the loses of their friends who bet wrong, and lost. OH, NO.... they really didn't lose, because YOU, by working at K-Mart, Rhodes 101, the hospital, cleaning houses for the better off in Cape, P&G, Wal-Mart, and a host of other lower paying jobs, will pay off those loses of the Republican fat cats.

The sad part is, because you are uninformed, you will vote for Republicans in November.

I just do not understand your stupidity.

mediamessiah,

Please, do NOT turn THIS into a political discussion. There are many, many individuals we who can be helped IF our community (can stop bickering about the election for just ONE moment and) offer some constructive advice!

I have emailed Gov. Blunt, Representative Jetton, Senators McCaskill (spelling) and Crowell asking for their assistance. (Would welcome others to send supporting ones also.)

ANY constructive suggestions in overcoming this obsticle are very welcome!

Guess we will find out who actually walks the walk! YOU can make a difference.

Me'Lange,

I will also seriously consider contacting the legislators to support this activity once I have done a little more research. I don't accept that the poor have no health care as I have had to go to the ER often enough and wait six to eight hours for a serious condition to know better. I am not blaming them, just stating a fact. They do not, to my knowledge have access to dental or optometric care however.

Red,

I just realized you may have been speaking of those WITH Medicaid or MO children's healthcare coverage. THOSE are not the folks we will be targeting.

Honestly, not sure all of RAM's in's and outs, but our groups thoughts...the no cost clinic will be for those withOUT insurance coverage or govt assisted coverage.

Red,

Oh...I forgot to thank you for your consideration. LOL...Can you tell I'm very passionate about this topic?

Me'Lange,

Appreciate your interest in something like this and I believe it could be a good opportunity for people to demonstrate their commitment or lack thereof. A lot of people talk a good game, but don't do jack.

I have a retired relative who was complaining the other day about being bored. I advised them to go somewhere and do volunteer work. Of course you know the answer to that.

Oh, one last thing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkmS6JrWSPU&NR=1

I would question as to whether you are a true Christian. I see no Christian spirit within you. You talk alot about Christ, but you do not walk like Him.

Amen.

-- Posted by Robert Goodbody on Wed, Sep 17, 2008, 6:22 pm CDT

Look Who's Talking!!

Silent_Bob,

Please, re-read my last comment to you. I apologized for the incorrect assumption.

PS...

Don't forget to Vote for Neil Boyd later this evening! He just rocked..."All by myself"...with an opera twist.

unilib

you must be the missing link that we know as Doc!

no one else can have that much disdain for the conservative party or be so misinformed!

unilib

Here is my first example!

At least Obama has a different perspective on issues, and he can do something McCain and Bush apparently can't: think before making a decision. Just my opinion.

-- Posted by unilib on Wed, Sep 17, 2008, 6:55 pm CDT

Last night Obama hosted a dinner with his hollyweird buddies that cost $28,500.00 per plate!!

The topic was that John McCain was the one that was out of touch with the middle class person, Don't you find that just a little hypercritical??

Yeah, it's not like those 'hollywierds' aren't tax payers, Americans, have the right to voice their political beliefs or go to a dinner that gee just happens to be a fundraiser for someone they believe in.

You're so right, Silent, what the hell were they thinking?

SHARING MY EMAIL....

I received this today... very interesting...

"Subject: I'm a Little Confused.....

Let me see if I have this straight.....

* If you grow up in Hawaii, raised by your grandparents, you're

"exotic, different."

* Grow up in Alaska eating moose burgers, a quintessential American story.

* If your name is Barack you're a radical, unpatriotic Muslim.

* Name your kids Willow, Trig and Track, you're a maverick.

* Graduate from Harvard law School and you are unstable.

* Attend 5 different small colleges before graduating, you're well grounded.

* If you spend 3 years as a brilliant community organizer, become the

first black President of the Harvard Law Review, create a voter

registration drive that registers 150,000 new voters, spend 12 years

as a Constitutional Law professor, spend 8 years as a State Senator

representing a district with over 750,000 people, become chairman of

the state Senate's Health and Human Services committee, spend 4 years

in the United States Senate representing a

state of 13 million people while sponsoring 131 bills and serving on

the Foreign Affairs, Environment and Public Works and Veteran's

Affairs committees, you don't have any real leadership experience.

* If your total resume is: local weather girl, 4 years on the city

council and 6 years as the mayor of a town with less than 7,000

people, 20 months as the governor of a state with only 650,000 people,

then you're qualified to become the country's second highest ranking

executive.

* If you have been married to the same woman for 19 years while

raising 2 beautiful daughters, all within Protestant churches, you're

not a real Christian.

* If you cheated on your first wife with a rich heiress, and left your

disfigured wife and married the heiress the next month, you're a

Christian.

* If you teach responsible, age appropriate sex education, including

the proper use of birth control, you are eroding the fiber of society.

* If , while governor, you staunchly advocate abstinence only, with no

other option in sex education in your state's school system while your

unwed teen daughter ends up pregnant , you're very responsible.

* If your wife is a Harvard graduate lawyer who gave up a position in

a prestigious law firm to work for the betterment of her inner city

community, then gave that up to raise a family, your family's values

don't represent America's.

* If you're husband is nicknamed "First Dude", with at least one DWI

conviction and no college education, who didn't register to vote until

age 25 and once was a member of a group that advocated the secession

of Alaska from the USA, your family is extremely admirable.

OK, much clearer now."

Yes, it much clearer now. Thanks, Jerry for sending the email. I just wish that we had people who could think, reason, and determine, instead of being so blind to the real issues before us.

Damn, iosoipay, even if I wanted to go to McCain's FAT CATS ONLY dinner in California, I don't think that I could even afford one olive, much less $25,000 a head for dinner with McCain. Wonder what these people do who can afford to throw away so much money on a FAT CAT dinner with McCain? Maybe they are the CEO's of Bear Stern, or, CEO and Board of AIG, the outgoing presidents of Fannie Mae, or, Freddie Mac, or, any of the other Republican get rich schemes that went sour, and now require the low wage earners in America to bail them out, so that they can have the money to do it all over again.

Thank you for the great facts and interesting information. I do hope that some here are not so blind that they will not at least listen to reason before they decide for whom to vote.

Silent_Bob said: "Last night Obama hosted a dinner with his hollyweird buddies that cost $28,500.00 per plate!! The topic was that John McCain was the one that was out of touch with the middle class person, Don't you find that just a little hypercritical??"

I think Jon Stewart is "hypercritical". But if you meant "hypocritical", then that would be Sean Hannity and Rush Limbaugh.

Check your facts before you post: Obama didn't host the dinner, Warren Buffet did. Was that an attempt at spinning the news?

Buffett Serves Obama $28,500 Plate Fundraising Dinner

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/06/23/buffett-serves-obama-2850_n_108754.html

I bet Warren's friends are all rich enough to afford that, so what's the problem? Were you afraid they were borrowing money that could be used by the Bush administration to bail out superbanks?

OK, let's put things in perspective. Warren's dinner was to raise just over $9 million for Obama's campaign. Where were you last year when Bush's dinner helped raise in excess of $15 million for the GOP candidates? I bet you posted a note on Speak Out calling Bush a hypocrite, right?

Bush's Fundraising Dinner Raises $15.4M (June 13, 2007)

"The NRCC co-sponsors the dinner with the National Republican Senatorial Committee. The dinner raised $7.9 for House candidates and $7.5 million for Senate candidates."

"Bush helped raise $10.5 million at the event last month, compared with $17 million last year, $15 million the year before and a record $38.5 million in 2004, when he was running for re-election."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/06/13/AR2007061301964.html

"We are very excited about the success of this event and the enthusiasm we are seeing from our supporters," said Rep. Tom Cole of Oklahoma, chairman of the National Republican Congressional Committee.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2007-06-13-bush-dinner_N.htm

Suelynn, one more for your ever-growing list of Republican hypocrisy items: when Republicans break a fundraising dinner record, it's a "successful event". When Democrats do it, it's hypocrisy.

And life goes on...

Robert,

My point wasn't that the average guy could attend. That isn't the case to most of these high end fundraising dinners. My point is you can't call Obama out on it when McCain gets the same treatment from his supporters.

BTW, does anyone know why you can't buy canned broccoli or cauliflower????

iso,

Same with asparagus, nothing like garden asparagus, but that is canned.

Thanks unilib I'll add that one to my list of things that's ok for the Repubicans to do, but it wrong somehow for the Dems. When Bush's fundrasiers have a gathering, he calls them his "base". When the Dems do it, it's somehow a joke, or evil, or a slimmy tactic. The republicans think they are invisible and that we can't see them. They'd like to believe we're too dense or emotional to hear or see what they are doing. Laughing, that's been tried here from time to time.

Link to the screenshots of Smart Palin's official Yahoo email account:

http://www.networkworld.com/slideshows/2008/091708-palin-email-hack.html

Question: how will she explain this to McCain? He apparently doesn't understand how email works. Maybe they will have to consult Karl Rove, the genius behind the almost impossible feat of "deleting" 4 years worth of damning email messages from the White House's servers. Of course it was an accident...

A more serious question: is it just me, or there's a pattern of GOP high-profile politicians really worried about hiding their digital tracks these days? What other reason would Palin have to use Yahoo instead of her Alaskan government-provided email address, if not to hide stuff from investigators?