Speak Out 8/27/08

Raising taxes,

For your reading pleasure...fyi..."How did it ever come about that the recipient of real estate taxes would be the beneficiary of their own decisions?" Nope...NOT how it works!

"That was the rate Cape Girardeau County Collector Diane Diebold used on tax bills sent to district residents in October. The bills reflected the rates certified by the state auditor..." (seMissourian.com 12/8/07)

http://www.semissourian.com/article/20071207/NEWS01/712070033

High grass noticed,

I'm so sorry! hehe (Cracking myself up...at this moment I don't have mowing grass in my yard.) :-)~

City server is down, so I can't double check the ordinance at this moment, but if memory serves, 12" is the acceptable height.

good morning everyone

regarding binge drinking problem , a person has to

define what binge means...different folks can

hold their booze better then other folks ...ya gotta

seperate the binge from the drinking in this

statement ....

First time I heard about the lemon thing, but I do notice that a lot of people are tight with the tip. The server should be compensated for the job, good or bad. They are working for far below min. wage and rely on the tips to even things out. My thinking is, that person is working for me and if they do a good job, I pay them for the time they worked for me, usually I spend an hour or so there so I start at $5 an hour and that goes up or down depending on the service and the time I spend sitting there. Other than that a good sign hanging in plain sight; We Reserve The Right To Refuse Service To Anyone.

stop smoking

all of u folks who have decided to stop smoking

are driving up the cost of cigarettes for the rest

of us who enjoy a smoke ...

will y'all quit stop smoking ?!?!

(i'm Rick Scaggs and i approve this message)

Restaurant owner, it’s surprising you can stay in business with an owner like that.

And yeah, downtown could improve, like maybe a nice casino, with attractions, and a super hotel.

More tabloid news from KFVS12, you’re kidding, right?

Do I think the junior senator from Illinois, with only months of experience can do the same – uh, no!

Hamburger $4.50 ice tea $2.00 pie $2.50 that's the reason some folks order water with lemon and slip in a sweetener,,,,live with it or lock up.

Any growth of weeds, grass, or poisonous or harmful vegetation to a greater height than ten (10) inches on the average within two hundred 200) feet of any building or one hundred (100) feet of any improved street, or any accumulation of dead weeds, grass or brush, within two hundred (200) feet of any building or one hundred (100) feet of any improved street.

City Ordinances are up. :)

Drink prices too high tea, soda, coffee. I think it's a kind of soft protest.

Is P.o.s.t.a.l. a dirty word??

Lemonade is the solution to saving at least $4.00 per meal for two seniors. I pay for my meal and I am always courteous to the server. I pay my tips according to the service that I receive. I never ask for lemon with my water and I never use sugar packets. So if a business owner or waitress doesn't want my business just let me know when I order water and I will leave your business and move on to a more professional establishment.

Money is tight and I chose to give up soda and tea while eating out. That is my choice not yours. I could bring a can of soda with me and drink it while eating but that would be an insult to you as an owner. So do want our business or not?

I work in a restaraunt and about 1/3 of our customers order water and I do not see how this is a problem. It is cheaper for them to drink water and throw in a sugar packet or lemon packet than it is for them to drink three or four glasses of tea or soda, not to mention it is healthy for them and saves them a few dollars so they can eat out another time as well. The owner of our place never complains. People are cutting back and this owner needs to accept that if not they may be cutting back on eating at that establishment.

Me'Lange

Thanks for the info. I saw part of the news although wasn't fully awake to actually retain in my mind what they were saying.

Semoangle,

So it would seem that there are alot of dirty words on here, go figure.

I almost always order water, sometimes w/lemon sometimes without. I really don't see a big deal about it. I usually always tip, unless I don't get good service. I don't drink water because it's free, I drink it because I don't drink that much soda anymore and hardly ever drink tea.

Twiggy

Semoangel,

That's the way I have always felt, I use to waitress and carhop years ago, when you could keep your tips and not have to share. Of course their are those who never tip, no matter how good the service and that is very frustrating.

Twiggy

RE: Lemons and lemonade

That's a new one I hadn't heard or thought of. Are these the same people ordering a bowl of hot water and mixing in the "free" ketchup to make tomato soup?

I can go both ways on this issue. Drink prices in restaurants are really high. It's not unusual for a soda to be $2.50 or more -- but that's usually with free refills. However, if you can't afford the price of the beverage at a restaurant -- (if that's the reasons you're making your own lemonade) then you probably should be staying at home.

I usually drink water when I dine out just for the fact that I prefer it sometimes over a soda with my meal. If you want to charge for water -- start offering a bottled version or a specialty water.

One other thing to consider before complaining about customers inserting powdered packages into their drink mixes is that it may be a fiber supplement or other dietary or medical aid. Duh lighten up.

Called this one too.

Enjoy!

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080827/ts_nm/fdic_treasury_dc

Truth hurts, doesn't it Just? Hi Me'lange!

Just...use that brain of yours and read my friend. You have NOTHING that supports your positions, not even the C&P that goes on in this room habitually by Me'lange, Babe, and others. (Odd you say that. Seeing this is "print" media...I'm unsure as to what else one is to do.)

Anyway...Read up! When you think you "really" know something, let me know.

http://www.lp.org/news/press-releases/libertarian-party-asks-mccain-whats-so-wrong-with-habeas-corpus

http://thinkprogress.org/2008/06/12/mccain-habeas-court/

http://civilliberty.about.com/b/2008/06/18/john-mccain-on-habeas-corpus.htm

http://thinkprogress.org/wonkroom/2008/06/20/mccain-habeas/

Have fun with that. Don't like my sources? Then look it up your own.

"Life, and the Pursuit of Happiness" Looks like Johnny forgot about that one little, but important part of the equation. Liberty!

Doc

Not my argument, but i thought you'd like to know about the fascinating hire by McCain of a man who claims that the president deserves "near-dictatorial powers".

http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2007/04/12/weekly_standard/index.html

http://theamericanscene.com/2008/06/04/michael-goldfarb

Greywolf

Sorry I missed you at the bbq fest Friday. Had a family medical emergency and I was actually hoping to get some tips for cooking a brisket this weekend.

I won't or wouldn't vote for Obama, not because of his name or skin color, but because he is still a Democrat. Democrats treat the American people as if they were children and politicians need to take them to raise. They forget that it is the production of these children that provide the wealth that the government consumes.

I will not vote for McCain because he is no different than the Democrats that I just mentioned. He, like GW, are as close to being Democrats as you can get. The Republicans defended Bush when they should have been on his case for his and Congress' reckless spending and pursuing a war that looks as crazy as if a Democrat was doing it. No logic used, just emotional arguments used. McCain also received a failing grade on firearms, slightly better than some of the worst Democrats. I will not vote for McCain because from his speeches and actions, and as a hillbilly, I consider him as insane.

Hilleco,

"Democrats treat the American people as if they were children and politicians need to take them to raise."

I find it odd that you would perceive the Democratic Party in this manner when by definition a Democrat is a person who believes in the social equality of all people.

Why do you feel this way?

GREYWOLF

do u know Tim Luttrul ? He entered the BBQ thing too ...

Oopps,

Sorry Hilleco, Was reading comments in the wrong direction...I see you did clarify your thoughts about the two parties being the basically the same in your previous post. (Noting, you are not the only one who has made that comment.)

Out...

"Got a whole house full of people coming this weekend. Any tips?"

Cater!!! hehehe

Most restaurants depend on higher profits from cheap drinks such as tea or lemonade more so than the actual meal. Folks started ordering water with real lemons. Soon the restaurants quit serving fresh slices and offered little packets. I have no problem with folks bypassing the expensive drinks but believe they should bring their own.

Tipping should be a gratuity for good service not time spent.

Twiggy

...almost sounds like u'll need ur first born !

Theorist: "social equality of all people" is exactly the point I was making, and the reason I do not support Democrat theory. I do not believe there is or should be "social equality", rather that there are individuals who determine their lives/choices for themselves. I support freedom of association between employer/employee as well as in all other "social" encounters between individuals. Democrats want to control what individuals eat, smoke, what medicines they take, basically how they live their ives, (of course, the Neo-Republicans share these viewpoints).

I disagree with the concept that there is a "purpose" that all people share to make the world "perfect", it is perfect in its diversity of thinking/style, and one's "purpose" is up to the individual and one "purpose" should not interfere in the rights and choices of another.

Greywolf,

I just have to say this and I am only kidding, but if people didn't know what you were talking about by just catching the last part of your last posting it could become very comical. Please don't take me wrong just kind of struck me funny, and I need something to laugh about with the way my day has been going.

Twiggy

Twiggy

..maybe ur local Missouri State Office could answer

some of ur questions ??

Hilleco,

You concern me....Remember this?

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights...

I do believe in equality. If you are saying that as adults, some choose to give up those rights, I would say "I agree". But to state that you do not believe in social equality is worrisome.

Red

I can agree with that, I hate the Cape Bureau, in a way I'm glad I don't have to deal with them anymore, I was going to a different the last few times I had to go and had no problems from them. Since I just moved down here I'm not sure which one would be the best place to go to, but I am checking.

Twiggy

Greywolf

I'm cooking butts and that is how I generally do them too. Never tried the apricot nector on ribs but as I'm having them too I'll try that. And as I'm also doing a brisket that's the one I'm worried about. Was thinking aluminum foil wrap for the first couple of hours?

outnabout,

sounds as if your ready to BBQ!My mother swears by

boiling the brisket first until its somewhat tender

then she adds her rub and cooks it indirect for

several hours in her smoker and no wrapping is necessary.Just a thought.

Yes apricot nectar makes a great rib baist.You can also add your favorite BBQ sauce but not too much.

Just enough to turn the nectar pink.It leaves your ribs with a very nice glaze which fares well with your favorite rub.

LOL, Greywolf, glad you didn't take it the wrong way. I do wish I could have been up there yet when you all the had BBQ, I would have come. Perhaps one of these times I am up visiting and meet for the Friday lunch we will meet then.

Twiggy

Red,

same here I will go out of my way to make it easier. I know my way to Albertson's and Walmart and to visit Aggie's grandma, that's about it. They are all within a few miles from where we live, which makes it rather easy.

Twiggy

Theorist: I believe that people should be treated equally by law. I believe that that is what was meant by the founders. We each have different tallents and the maketplace rewards those the most who best satisfies its needs and wants. It should not be the government's job to limit, reward or punish lawful ambitions.

out...

Note...can make these up an hour or two ahead...but not much further ahead than that (tators will turn black in the foil on you).

But for a very easy potato dish...Schnucks does offer a very good mustard potato salad...and it is on sale this week for $1.49 lb (I believe).

Twiggy,

They are!I didn't know the name of the recipe until recently (saw it recipe online....that's why I added the pepper comment)...my ex-significant other made them all the time. And now that I have a gas grill (thanks to my brother!)...I do too. If you leave out the bacon, they are fairly healthy...I do just one or two potatos, and the left overs zap well too. If you like fried tators, you'll like these.

Thanks Mel,

I might give it try this week end since Aggie may finally have a day off. He loves to grill and every now and then I throw something on with whatever he fixes.

Twiggy

Me'Lange

I remember the hobo potatoes from when was a kid and went to girl scout camp loved to eat them.

Another great potato dish for the grill is to take the potatoes and wash them then slice them as if for frying with the peel on. Sprinkle with seasoning salt, add some olive oil, sweet vidalia onion dressing, and some butter then cover with aluminum foil and put on the grill for about an hour.

Twiggy

In the summer we are always cooking out, saves the heat and mess in the kitchen. Any potato dish just about is a hit here. I will add though when we did the hobo potatoes we also put carrots in ours as well. Have almost all the vegies in one little throw away thing so a lot less mess.

outnabout

Sounds as though you might be intending on cooking the entire meal on the grill. Roasted corn on the cob and sauteed mushrooms are good side dishes.

Buy some corn still in the husks and leave them that way. Throw them in salted water and soak for two to three hours, rolling them over a couple of times. Then just throw them on the grill in indirect heat. They steam rather than burn. When ready to serve the husk and strings come off completely with just a few pulls. Delicious served with herb butter spread.

Brush off the mushrooms and cut to the same chunky size. Place them in a shallow pan, add pats of butter and put them on the grill. When they are cooked down some slosh a little worsty sauce and cook to your liking.

These dishes can be cooked while your meat is resting before serving. You can put your meat in a cooler to stay warm. Just relax and delegate chores.

OMG...the commentator on MSNBC just said that Bill Clinton 'the former husband' will be speaking tonight.

Ooootaaaay.......Only 24 hours til Coronation......

But that's just my opinion..... :-)

Just me

I love it!

Liberal_Puke,

That is because one or both, may be the same person, is still crying about getting their avatar pulled in a prior incarnation, actually two or three incarnations ago.

Low cawb diet do wowk for some...lost 8o lbs. and have kept it off 5 yeaws now!

btw...was not referring to your nickname/user name...

Was referring to this comment..."Isn't it funny how Pukes like Robert Goodbody, and The_Doctor"

Just_Me_and_My_Opinion,

Seems you have forgotten one of my areas of interest is accounting, budgeting, stats...thus blaming the war cost for the deficit won't fly with me. Has it added to the deficit? Heck yes! However, expenditures for this adminstration are WAY up across the board, adding to the deficit. (Go ahead and look 'em up if you want...it is very interesting to compare the last several administration's cost/expenses. Oh, and inflation can be factored in. Good luck!)

Me'Lange,

My apologies. You're right, and stating an opinion "enthusiastically" is one thing, but the name calling is completely out of line.

Thanks for the wake-up.

...er , no pukes here....

MeLange

Are you a positive catalyst by calling others that disagree with you 'flies that need swatting'? giggle

I am so sorry for cutting and pasting, but this is soooooo funny........

And it came to pass, in the eighth year of the reign of the evil Bush the Younger (The Ignorant), when the whole land from the Arabian desert to the shores of the Great Lakes had been laid barren, that a Child appeared in the wilderness.

The Child was blessed in looks and intellect. Scion of a simple family, offspring of a miraculous union, grandson of a typical white person and an African peasant. And yea, as he grew, the Child walked in the path of righteousness, with only the occasional detour into the odd weed and a little blow.

When he was twelve years old, they found him in the temple in the City of Chicago, arguing the finer points of community organisation with the Prophet Jeremiah and the Elders. And the Elders were astonished at what they heard and said among themselves: “Verily, who is this Child that he opens our hearts and minds to the audacity of hope?”

In the great Battles of Caucus and Primary he smote the conniving Hillary, wife of the deposed King Bill the Priapic and their barbarian hordes of Working Class Whites.

And so it was, in the fullness of time, before the harvest month of the appointed year, the Child ventured forth - for the first time - to bring the light unto all the world.

He travelled fleet of foot and light of camel, with a small retinue that consisted only of his loyal disciples from the tribe of the Media. He ventured first to the land of the Hindu Kush, where the

Taleban had harboured the viper of al-Qaeda in their bosom, raining terror on all the world.

And the Child spake and the tribes of Nato immediately loosed the Caveats that had previously bound them. And in the great battle that ensued the forces of the light were triumphant. For as long as the Child stood with his arms raised aloft, the enemy suffered great blows and the threat of terror was no more.

From there he went forth to Mesopotamia where he was received by the great ruler al-Maliki, and al-Maliki spake unto him and blessed his Sixteen Month Troop Withdrawal Plan even as the imperial warrior Petraeus tried to destroy it.

And lo, in Mesopotamia, a miracle occurred. Even though the Great Surge of Armour that the evil Bush had ordered had been a terrible mistake, a waste of vital military resources and doomed to end in disaster, the Child's very presence suddenly brought forth a great victory for the forces of the light.

And the Persians, who saw all this and were greatly fearful, longed to speak with the Child and saw that the Child was the bringer of peace. At the mention of his name they quickly laid aside their intrigues and beat their uranium swords into civil nuclear energy ploughshares.

From there the Child went up to the city of Jerusalem, and entered through the gate seated on an ***. The crowds of network anchors who had followed him from afar cheered “Hosanna” and waved great palm fronds and strewed them at his feet.

In Jerusalem and in surrounding Palestine, the Child spake to the Hebrews and the Arabs, as the Scripture had foretold. And in an instant, the lion lay down with the lamb, and the Israelites and Ishmaelites ended their long enmity and lived for ever after in peace.

As word spread throughout the land about the Child's wondrous works, peoples from all over flocked to hear him; Hittites and Abbasids; Obamacons and McCainiacs; Cameroonians and Blairites.

And they told of strange and wondrous things that greeted the news of the Child's journey. Around the world, global temperatures began to decline, and the ocean levels fell and the great warming was over.

The Great Prophet Algore of Nobel and Oscar, who many had believed was the anointed one, smiled and told his followers that the Child was the one generations had been waiting for.

And there were other wonderful signs. In the city of the Street at the Wall, spreads on interbank interest rates dropped like manna from Heaven and rates on credit default swaps fell to the ground as dead birds from the almond tree, and the people who had lived in foreclosure were able to borrow again.

Black gold gushed from the ground at prices well below $140 per barrel. In hospitals across the land the sick were cured even though they were uninsured. And all because the Child had pronounced it.

And this is the testimony of one who speaks the truth and bears witness to the truth so that you might believe. And he knows it is the truth for he saw it all on CNN and the BBC and in the pages of The New York Times.

Then the Child ventured forth from Israel and Palestine and stepped onto the shores of the Old Continent. In the land of Queen Angela of Merkel, vast multitudes gathered to hear his voice, and he preached to them at length.

But when he had finished speaking his disciples told him the crowd was hungry, for they had had nothing to eat all the hours they had waited for him.

And so the Child told his disciples to fetch some food but all they had was five loaves and a couple of frankfurters. So he took the bread and the frankfurters and blessed them and told his disciples to feed the multitudes. And when all had eaten their fill, the scraps filled twelve baskets.

Thence he travelled west to Mount Sarkozy. Even the beauteous Princess Carla of the tribe of the Bruni was struck by awe and she was great in love with the Child, but he was tempted not.

On the Seventh Day he walked across the Channel of the Angles to the ancient land of the hooligans. There he was welcomed with open arms by the once great prophet Blair and his successor, Gordon the Leper, and his successor, David the Golden One.

And suddenly, with the men appeared the archangel Gabriel and the whole host of the heavenly choir, ranks of cherubim and seraphim, all praising God and singing: “Yes, We Can.”

meanwhile, the insinuating avatars of racism are still running rampant.

Liberal

OMG, it fits Obama perfectly. I am laughing so hard. Thanks.

Doctor of what? Proctology?

Here we go, the best reason to vote Democrat in November.

Free Speech, gotta love it!

Grizzly,

You are right, obviously, especially my early AM, post reflect I still need an edit button! I swear...those dang cyber-gremlins keep erasing and adding words to my comments! hehe

"I try very hard NOT to demean other posters..."...but I'm NOT perfect either.

Just_Me_and_My_Opinion,

Go for it Baby! I have a deadline to meet and can't be investing MY time (at this moment ~wink~), proving YOU wrong. :-)~

January 20, 2009, the end of a god-awful era...nightmare?

Babe, until now I never realized you were such an authority on the Clintons. It's almost as if you have known them intimately forever. Actually, I shouldn't be surprised though; you are an authority on every subject. Anyone who doubts such should ask you for confirmation. I am so impressed.

Wow, Doctor disappears, then iago1 immediately pops in....it's almost like they're the same person......spooky

Ms Hillary just put herself in the limelight again. She asked for the votes to be discontinued after she released the votes of NY and it was granted by Pelosi without calling for a nay vote. So now the states that passed and others in the alphabetical order are denied making their statements and public votes, even though she asked for votes to be counted privately.

Just wait for old Bill to give his speech. giggle

Oh, yes, as an after thought....Biden is speaking tonight too. giggle

One more thing Twiggy. When you apply for your Texas license, you have to surrender your Missouri license.

They give you a temporary paper license because your picture I.D. will not be mailed for 2 to 3 weeks.

So if you are planning on buying anything that requires a picture I.D., buy it before you go to the DPS. Maybe one of you could get your license first then the other one get theirs two weeks later. They say you have 30 days to get your license changed, but I know people who have lived here over a year and still have not changed theirs.

Twiggy, order a free visitors guide to Austin for your trip.

http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/administration/driver_licensing_control/movingtotexas.htm

You can order another free guide from the governors office. http://www.traveltex.com/travelguide/OrderForm.aspx?c=1

Yeah...I'm iago too. You got me. There's only ONE Democrat in all of Missouri. Hmmmm, guess that's why Missouri will go Democratic in November. I guess that's also why Cape Girardeau County voted the Minimum wage increase by nearly 70% in 2006. Yep, It just takes ONE Democrat to beat 1,000,000 Republicans.

I think McCain may just choose a woman running mate after the PUMA fallout from the dems in this convention. I would love it if he did as there are many competent Republican to choose.

Saw the Roll Call vote, and just like 2000 the Dems didn't want all the votes counted.

Just_Me_and_My_Opinion,

Since you have taunted me and I found a little time research my point...which was..."blaming the war cost for the deficit won't fly with me. Has it added to the deficit? Heck yes! However, expenditures for this adminstration are WAY up across the board, adding to the deficit."

While you are correct about discretionary income being lower, THAT trend has been headed south since the mid-1960's, thus every administration since 1965 could make that claim.

Found this nice pdf that makes the facts easy to evaluate, just for you.

http://dallasfed.org/educate/events/2004/04ecsummit-viard.pdf

Now...IF you want to continue to claim this administration has NOT increased our deficit...go right ahead.

WhoMe,

When I lived in Michigan, they let us keep our old one for identification, they did punch a whole in it so that it wouldn't be valid. The only thing it was good for was while waiting for the new one I had a picture ID. That is the only place I have lived that did it that way.

Twiggy

Babe, pukes and opinion are striking out. I notice they have all gone to watch Mr. Clinton seal the deal. Good Luck you guys....laughing or should I say *giggle*

"Lemons and lemonade"

"WE OWN a restaurant and it is unbelievable how people order water and then bring their own lemonade packets with them to make their lemonade. They use our ice, lemons and sugar packets at no charge. Waitresses carry this to them, refill their water for them and then they tip according to the price of the meal only, if they tip at all. It's surprising we can stay in business with customers like this."

Well, we could settle this whole issue right here. Why don't you establish a NO TIPPING policy and pay your wait staff a decent wage? HMMMM??

Some restaurants in the Cape area, pay thier wait staff about $2.00 an hour. The owners of the restaurant expect their patrons to make up the salary of their employees. Then, they have the balls to complain loudly, when some of their patrons don't cough up 15 to 20% of the bill to make up for their employers deficient wage. The employer above doesn't care if the wait staff gives good service, if his food is excellent, or, if the place is clean. He just expects the patron to provide the major portion of his wait staff's salary, so this cheap scum doesn't have to pay.

If you are so worried about your employee making a decent wage, then post NO TIPPING and pay your staff a decent hourly wage.

When did the custom evolve from one where the patron tipped, to show appreciation for good service and good food, to one where it is expected, even demanded that the patron make up the paltry $2.xx and hour salary paid by the employer with an overly genorus tip? These cheap B*****DS now cajole and harrass their patrons, making them feel, wrongly so, that they are to pay thier wait staff, regardless of the quaility of the food, or, the service given.

No, I hope that you won't remain in business long. Good ridance you cheap SOB.

SNORT!! Sorry. Must've dosed off during Clinton's pep talk. He is still a smooth guy.

Nice that CNN cut to another camera shot when they focused on Hillary and she had that full on downs syndrome, wide mouthed gingavitus (SP) smile. EEEEEEKKKKK!!

Just_Me_and_My_Opinion,

Of course, that was a TYPO! You have stated nothing that chances the FACTS. This administration has established record deficit spending and accumulated record national debt. Those are FACTS and nothing you can spew will change them.

"Lemons and Lemonade" REDUX

First off, if the patron is bringing his own lemon to put in the water, what the hell is your gripe?

I feel that everyone should ask for lemon with their water. First of all, lemons when ingested, transform the acidic content food in your stomach from acidic to akaline. Research has shown that cancer has a very difficult time of growing, if it can at all, when the human body is akaline. Lemons are good for the prevention of cancer, and in resisting the growth of cancer in the body.

Perhaps, with all the carcenigenic food that you serve, you would automatically offer lemons to your customers, in the hopes of keeping them alive a little longer so that they could frequent your cancer factory.

If a customer takes lemon, either from their own stash, or, if it is served at the restaurant, and makes either lemon water, or, sweetens it with a little sugar, what the hell is your gripe? It MAY make a difference if you actually served lemonade, but I would guess, that you do not.

Some people have given up sodas, because of health and chemical concerns. Yet, they still frequent your carcenigenic restaruant. Allow them to redeem some of their folly, by allowing them to make lemon water, or, lemonade.

As for me, I have had my Daily Requirement of ASPARTAME, BENZONATE, and my favorite, PHOSPHORIC ACID.

I sit here wondering what is my minimum daily requirement for Phosphoric Acid, as found in canned sodas, and ponder it's many uses....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phosphoric_acid

Phosphoric Acid used for Rust removal

"Phosphoric acid may be used by direct application to rusted iron, steel tools, or surfaces to convert iron(III) oxide (rust) to a water-soluble phosphate compound. It is usually available as a greenish liquid, suitable for dipping (acid bath), but is more generally used as a component in a gel, commonly called naval jelly. As a thick gel, it may be applied to sloping, vertical, or even overhead surfaces. Care must be taken to avoid acid burns of the skin and especially the eyes, but the residue is easily diluted with water. When sufficiently diluted, it can even be nutritious to plant life, containing the essential nutrients phosphorus and iron. It is sometimes sold under other names, such as "rust remover" or "rust killer." It should not be directly introduced into surface water such as creeks or into drains, however. After treatment, the reddish-brown iron oxide will be converted to a black iron phosphate compound coating that may be scrubbed off."

Then, to be fair, there is the saving grace of sodas containing CITRIC ACID.

What is that you say? The CITRIC ACID in sodas does not come from LIMES, nor, LEMONS? Where does the CITRIC ACID found in soft drinks come from, pray tell?

"(However most citric acid in the food industry is not extracted from citrus fruit, but fermented by Aspergillus niger mold from scrap molasses, waste starch hydrolysates and phosphoric acid.)"

HMMMMMM, MOLD, Yummy!

Yet, you would rather serve that crap to your customers, than to allow them to bring their own lemon, or, to serve lemons to them. You scum greedmiester.

As for me, I love PAPPY'S Sassafrass Tea concentrate. Available at Schnucks and Liberty Food Giant, both on Kingshighway. It is completely natural, no additives, no caffene, no calories.

opinion,

so basically when something good happens it is the result of "your guys" and when something bad happens it is the "other guys" fault.

just as you tend to break everthing decadent in the past eight year to the two years that the democrats have controlled congress.

cowboy up opinion. there have been mistakes made within this administration. quit making excuses you sound like some liberal/commie.

on to something more important the Cards just tied the game in the bottom of the 8th!

Read previous posts...today....Just Me and My opinion......

pure fact....debate those...

I actually do not have the time tonight to deal with you, but YOU know it doesn't take a lot to make my point. One liners that are to the point will suffice. Extra verbiage means nothing....nothing

My dear opinion...

You are the one debating the wrong issue! No one is disputing the war has added to expenditures. However, if you look at the REST of the facts...expenditures are UP all over! Got it NOW??? Btw...You didn't comment on the link full of vast FACTS I posted. Again, military spending is not in dispute here...seems you are playing "go fish" while the rest of us are playing a seven card draw poker game. :-)~

Did you see that??? Bill Clinton called out BABE! He called her an Extremist! Right on National Television! *giggle*

Oh looky, looky....Obama is at the convention instead of practicing at Mile High stadium for his coronation.

I thought Bill Clinton's speech was wonderful. He showed more class than his wife. Now, if you think he was sincere, that's an entire different story.

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George W. Bush the BUDGET BUSTER

If you search on "Bush budget entitlements" you will come up with this offering from the CATO institute.

http://www.cato.org/pubs/tbb/tbb-0308-16.pdf

Search on "Bush Budget Busters" and you get this from the newspaper at Georgia State Univeristy in Atlanta.

"Republicans love tax cuts so much...it slices; it dices; now watch it cut through this tin can! It's like their Ginsu knife...it's good for everything.

But are they?

Is this plan the best plan available to stimulate the economy or is it just so much pay back to the president's loyal campaign contributors?

Let's look at it.

Out of a $674 billion dollar package, $364 billion is consumed by Bush's total elimination of taxes on stock dividends.

But now that everyone has stock in a 40lK, that helps everybody, right?

Wrong. Most Americans hold stocks through tax-deferred pension plans or individual retirement accounts. These investments do not receive dividends directly and would not benefit from the tax cut. "

Me'lange is corrects, there have been numerous news reports stating that Bush has increased the budget with non-defense related spending.

That is a tough task to do, since we are spending over $10 BILLION DOLLARS a MONTH on the war against the Iraqi people, for their murder, rape, plundering, and making refugees of them. Not to mention what it has done, physically and mentally to our troops. $10 BILLION a MONTH!!!!! Where the hell do you think that money is coming from, jars of pennies collected from elementary students all across this nation?

Bush's friends are making money hand over fist off of this war, and their imperailst, warmongering goals. The Neocons and Zionists are making incredible amounts of money off our our debt owned by Communist China, and the blood of the Iraqi's and American troops occupying Iraq.

Billions are being spent. Billions are being made by the globalists. Gas is through the roof. If we had an agressive and decisive policy to deal with the scum Wall Street firms/investors, neocons, globaists, Zionists at the AEI and AIPAC, oil company execs, and slime like Halliburton, UNOCAL, and Blackwater there would be no war, there would be little if any national debt, there would be $1.29 a gallon gas.

Oh, and fajar, it's just the first in my search. Again if you are serious, I can contact my sister-n-law and find out the exact process that she went through when she did it.

Ooops, did a little more reading on my firs site I offered. Maybe not the best out there so here's another one.

http://bloodcell.transplant.hrsa.gov/

Opinion,

'My "tone" - what is my tone in text form?' I couldn't go to bed without answering your question. Dog gone...would hate to be thought of as copping out on that one.

Eh...are you familiar with the asterisks system? hehe I actually can not honestly answer this question without getting banned.

Ohh no doubt about it Babe, Clinton was "sincerely" calling you an Extremist.

Just_Me_and_My_Opinion,

Wow...You think an awful lot of yourself, don't you? Good luck with that!

Ah, the speeches in Denver

I am hearing a theme that some of the globalst Democrats, like Hillary, Pelosi, Hoyer, Biden, and even Obama have taken up in recent months, and it not only makes me mad, but wondering where true change and relief will come from for this country.

First, it is their attack on "foreign oil" etc. The problem is not foreign oil, nor, the supply of oil left to be taken in future years. The problem is the greed of the oil companies, like BP, British Petroleum, and the unrestrained greed and hubris of Wall Street investment firms, like Goldman Sachs.

It was a Republican, Senator Gramm, with a Republican congress that passed a bill back in 2002, nicknamed the ENRON LOOPHOLE, that set free the scum of Wall Street. The bill freed them from oversight in the US, by telling them to go to foreign markets, unrestrained, with no oversight, a wild market where they could gamble, bid on stocks with no worries that anyone would be looking over their shoulder at how they were manipulating the markets.

The globalist segment of the Republcian party unleashed the dogs of greed, the Democrats have done nothing to reign them in. We get words, lots of words from the Democrats, which merely echo those of the globalist Republicans. Sure, there are Democrats out there who know the score and who have fought hard for us, and our nation. Senator Dorgan comes to mind, as does Congressman Dennis Kucinich.

However, neither Senator Dorgan, nor, Congressman Kucinich are on the ticket, and neither is likely to play a significant part in the Obama-Biden government.

I have been suspect of Obama from the beginning.

I saw him on CNBC doing his best "Step and Fetch It", good old plantion house ni**er, or, Uncle Tom to the masser, Jack Welch, former GE CEO. It was a disgusting performance. He groveled before Jack Welch who had just abnomished both Mitt Romney, and Barack Obama for giving people in Michigan hope that jobs might return to America. Just before Obama and Romney had come into view via satellite on the CNBC program, Welch had raked both Obama and Romney over the coals for promising jobs. Welch bellowed..."THOSE JOBS AREN'T COMING BACK." Both Romney and Obama kowtowed to Welch, treating him as if he were a God. Unfortunately, I felth that Obama was a little more groveling than Romney was.

Hillary, and, then Obama began to talk about green jobs. I have Obama recorded in his Economic Speech saying that globalism was good for America. He as did Kerry in 2004, says things like "Give an American a level playing field and no one can beat him." Crowds cheer, because they think that they heard that jobs were coming, or, jobs are returning, which was not the case. It was just pure smoke up their skirts, but they bought it as something more.

Obama will not bring the troops home. He now says that they will stay there to train the Iraqi troops. So, we will be spending more of our money to keep the troops there for years. We will have the largest embassy in the world in Iraq. It is the size of the Vatican. We overthrew the government in Iraq, we murdered hundreds of their leaders, their policemen, their members of the military, and murdered fathers, mothers and children with abandon. I think that there will be continued resistance to this neocon occupation.

If you look who spoke at the Democrat convention, it is very telling. Kucinich had just a bit speech earlier in the day. All the globalists got prime time spots for their speeches. All the toadies for Israel were up front, with their support of Israel.

Biden is one of those. He is a water carrier for Israel. He spoke about continuing the war with Al Queda, and with the Taliban, who Biden described as the real enemy.

First off, the Taliban were not our enemy before neocon inspired, bloodthristy Bush attacked the Afghan people. Bush joined with the Communists in Afghanistan, the very Communists who had come to power under the Russians, and, togther, they attacked and massacred the Taliban Government forces and thousands of civilians.

Biden believes that that should continue. It is the position of Israel, thus, it will be the offical policy of this government who is so bound to Israel that it is obscene.

Al Queada is so obscure. It is a catch all description that the neocons use to describe ANY resistance that comes against the New World Order. Now, the Communist Chinese, who have been brutally suppressing it's people for 70 years, claims that resistance forces in Xinjiang, one of their northwest provinces, are connected to the mystical, mysterious Al Queada. Now, to be fair, Russia, for the first time ever, did join with China in what they told the US was anti-terrorism exercises. However, the Russians and Chinese were using ICBM's in that anti-terrorism training. It isn't hard to figure out who Russia and China consider the terrorist, and it isn't Al Queada.

The globalists and neocons have held the Republican party in bondage for years. They are now clearly entrenched within the power structure of the Democrat Party.

What do you do when you have no choice at all? What do you do when neither party acts responsibly and in the best interests of the lower upper, middle and lower classes of this nation?

"When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security."

Pentagon Study on the mental health of returning occupation troops from Iraq and Afghanistan.

JUNE, 2007

"According to the Pentagon's latest mental health survey, 31 percent of Marines, 38 percent of soldiers and 49 percent of the National Guard reported psychological symptoms such as anger, depression or alcohol abuse after returning home. As the director of the survey said, combat stress is not something you just get over.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/06/15/eveningnews/main2936403.shtml

"It may manifest and change their lives forever. These are men and women who have undergone experiences that are unlike anything else in humankind," Vice Adm. Donald Arthur said.

For wounded soldiers like Staff Sgt. Daniel Shannon, post-traumatic stress disorder adds insult to their injuries.

"I started smashing furniture, very rapidly; so fast I didn't know what I was doing 'til it happened. I'd get mad so fast, so angry, and just lash out," Shannon said.

Shannon is at least willing to talk about it.

The survey says the stigma attached to mental illness in the military "remains pervasive and often prevents service members from seeking needed care."

The stigma is one barrier to treatment. Another is that the military doesn't have enough mental health professionals — not even for peacetime, much less war.

According to the survey, there have been "dramatic decreases in the number of military health professionals" since the war started.

And perhaps the most damning finding: The Pentagon "currently lacks both funding and personnel to adequately support the psychological health of service members and their families."

Wow another great night for the Dems. Lots of excitment and out of this world speeches. The place looked great with all the flags while President Clinton was speaking and a very, very long welcome from the delegates. Go Joe. I'm liking him more every day...another good Obama decision. Obama's appearance got the group going too - tomorrow will be huge.

Just_Me_and_My_Opinion

I guess we will have to agree to disagree!

Just_Me_and_My_Opinion,

btw...If you are not aware, this is a SpeakOut Forum... one can post an OPINION without feeling compelled to cite their sources. My thoughts are based on a compilation of my reading and research. The pdf I located and posted was the easiest source to read (graphs)...the facts appear accurate based on my previous knowledge.

With that said, some of us get up very early in the AM... I need my beauty sleep.

Eh...even with your "nastiness"...somehow was lured to continue the debate, so I suppose I got a little enjoyment out of it. Thanks.

Just_Me_and_My_Opinion,

I'll leave you with some questions for tonight. If you no soo much about the wonderful economic GWB years, please explain to me how we ended up with a $9 Trillion Dollar Debt, in a war against a our HUGE foe Iraq?

Additionally, since you are now the voice of the "self-proclaimed" educated Republicons, PLEASE answer my question from a few nights ago.

DEFINE FOR ME, the Conservative values and principles that they boast of so dearly.

BTW...my my my, McSame is in quite a pinch. He either picks:

Romney - which will prove how he has completely embraced Conservative/Republicon status quo and diminishing the years of work that he spent creating his "Maverick" status. Proving that McCain is willing to sacrifice his personal values, just to become President, and succumb to from maverick to puppet status.

or

Ridge - the, as BABE put it, CINO that embraces Pro-choice. This would be a complete joke.

or

Lieberman - Actually his safest pick, though it will lose him ALL of the conservative vote AND RE-DEFINE the Republican party, and push them to LEFT CENTER, ironically categorizing them as the thing they hate the most "Liberals!" LOL

or

Kay Bailey Hutchison - Pro-choicer, and will infuriate Hillary Clinton. Bill and Hillary at this point will give McCain a fight to the death.

or

Tim Pawlenty - Zzzzzzzzzzzzz and a true boy child. Can we say Dan Quayle II? LOL

Oh yes, while Obama's speech Thursday night will no doubt be executed with extraordinary precision and inevitability, the grand culmination will come Friday as McCain seals his own fate by picking a VP that will not only divide what is left of the Grand Old Party, but will demolish it's very foundation.

Democrats = Unity

Republicons = Disenfranchised chickens with their heads cut off.

Nope, I’m not going to join in, because I’ve already figured you out. BTW I could care less if or where you lump me or even what you think of me. Have at it.

I for one am not ragging on the troops. As a Viet-Nam vet I KNOW what real ragging is.Americans took their hatred of the war out on us.

I want the troops to come home. Not one more death or injury. This was a trumped up war and the troops who were wanting to do the patriotic thing where used as pawns just like we V.N. vets were. Over 58,000 of my brothers were killed in that insane war ( over 11,000 were teenagers). I support the troops, but I want them only to be used in the defense of our country. Not for the neo-cons, the Zionists, and the oil companies.

Who's ahead??

"The latest three-day average (Aug. 24-26) shows Obama back with a very slight advantage after McCain edged ahead in Tuesday's update. Despite these minor changes, the race, from a big picture perspective, has not changed and remains statistically tied -- as it has for about two weeks now. A better night for Obama in Gallup's Tuesday tracking interviews, however, suggests that a convention bounce could develop."

Your facts are...(lol)...facticious.

Just_Me_and_My_Opinion, I'm listening *crickets*

What's wrong, Gallup come back and bite you?

Babe, Get with the game! You're a day late, a dollar short, and a week behind. JUST was bragging last night how the POLLS (specifically) Gallup were showing how McCain was winning (ONE POINT LAST NIGHT). Now today it's changed. Sheesh!! READ THE POSTS AND KEEP UP!

JUST, Yeah...I figured my post would be your exit cue. Aww....wants wrong? Him don't want to play anymore since his BELOVED Gallup let him down??

JUST,

Quit being and idiot and now a liar. Hit the link and fess up! Just like a Republican, no integrity, sore loser.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/109873/Gallup-Daily-Race-Still-Close-Obama-45-McCain-44.aspx

When is Sin not a sin? What is murder?

Opinion. I make no judgment of you personally. There are certain truths that cannot be expelled by covering them in a blanket of lies.

Certainly, not all Iraq-Afghanistan deployed troops are murderers, or, rapists. This is not the Viet Nam era military, where most of the military were draftees. This military has joined of their own will. Sure, some had few if any other options. Jobs are so scarce now, that some of these men and women are called economic draftees. It was either the military, or, starve. I think that this was considered when the globalists launched their globalism off-shore the jobs campaign years ago. It was a benefit. "We will have wars to fight, we will need bodies to put in boots, therefore, the fewer the jobs there available for them, the more bodies we will get to fill the miltary ranks."

Regardless. It is not necessary to actually commit a particular act, for it to be a sin. Anyone who is in country, off-shore on a ship, back home in the US, contributing to the war against the Afghan and Iraq people, to overthrow their government, to murder their leaders, to imprison their citizens in their own land, to torture them, to kill them, maim them, to cause them to thirst and to be hungry, they all contribute to the sin, and therefore hold some responsiblity and will be called into account. Even a secretary for one of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, has some accountablity for the death and destruction in Iraq and Afghanistan.

As I posted earlier. It is very difficult to rely on the UCMJ whereby you do not have to obey an unlawful order. Most of our troops were pumped up by the propaganda fed to them though their chain of command, the dishonorable POTUS, and the media. They actually thought that they were fighting an enemy of the American people. They thought that they were fighting that great boogey man, "terrorism." That is what they were supposed to believe. It was fed to them by propaganda professionals. After Nine-Eleven, American were angry, fustrated, and ready to strike at anyone. We didn't think, we didn't pause, reflect, and hold rational debate. Suddenly, the FBI had the photos of all the alleged "hijackers." Well, hell, even one of their passports, escaped the burning inferno in one of the towers and floated down the towers to the street, unscathed, unburned, in pristine condition. Hell, that was a miracle of God, and the American people ate it up. Damn, we are a stupid bunch.

God will not totatly forgive this greivous sin. Some soldiers will be given the opportunity to repent for this sin. It is a sin. Murder is a sin. Those who did not actually kill an Iraqi soldier, will still be responsible, to a lessor degree than one who did.

I believe that many of our troops know this, or, a bit of conscience is telling them that. Along with the fact of actually being there and seeing a lot of stuff that they should have never been exposed to is causing them a variety of problems that they would not have had to deal with if that scumbag piece of human waste and his neocon and Zionist minions had not forced upon them and this nation.

God is a forgiving God, but there will be varing degrees of repentance and attonment for thier souls to be cleansed. The first step is to recognized what happened to you, and to speak out against this war of no end, dreamed up by the New World Order, the hand maidens of Satan.

Whatever JUST, you've situated yourself to Joke Status now.

Just_Me_and_My_Opinion

Sorry, Am I on over kill? Am I digging it in too much for your sensative little feelings? Garsh! What are you going to do January 20, 2008 when the republicons get evicted from the WH? Stroke out?

Who Is Responsible for YOUR Soul?

I beg to differ, Opinion, Jesus is not responsible for your soul.

YOU are responsible for your own Soul, for God gave you FREE WILL. Why would God give you FREE WILL, if he was ever guarding your Soul?

You are invoking a cloudy, confused assumption that your sins are forgiven, that they are nailed to the Cross, you are washed in the blood of Jesus, and forever saved, with that of who is responsible for your Soul.

You, and you alone are responsible for your soul.

However, there is this.

Years ago, there was a famous author, a former Jeusit Priest who had been stationed in the Vatican who appeared on a secular talk show. During the course of the interview, the host asked Father Malakai Martin, he asked this elderly Priest, what he thought that God expected of us. Father Martin responded, that God was most interested in how we treated others here on earth. How do we interact with the sick, the truely poor, the imprisoned, the lame, as well as, others whom we come in contact with daily. Father Martin said that it was most important that we never cast stones in the path of another on their journey though life that could make them trip and not obtain Heaven.

In other words. If someone at work gets a promotion that I want, I should not try to get them fired, or, start gossip about them. If I know that someone I know is messing around on his wife, a woman whom I once dated and she chose him instead, I should not inform her of the infedelity, in an effort to but up their marriage and make him pay for winning her years ago.

I should not attack a public servant, such as Jay Prucell, just because I can later say that it was because of me that he wasn't re-elected. Likewise, I should not try to get someone fired, just to show that I have the power to do so.

We need to remember that Pride, Greed, lust, and covetness, are all sins. In my opinion, it is fine to be happy to be an American, to be pleased, and gratful to be an American, but when we start trying to inject "pride" into it, we need to be careful that we have not committed a sin.

In America today, we seem to celebrate sins, like Greed. We cloak it in many phrases that sound benign. Scrape all that away, it is the sin that is underneath.

Because we have FREE WILL, we are all responsible for our own Souls. We may have a Guardian Angel, who may look in on us from time to time, and, yes, Jesus may check up on us, too. Regardless, we are the ones who maintain our individual Souls, and it is we who will be held accountable. You may have confessed your sins, you may have made an altar call, or, many for that matter, but if you believe that your sins were lifted at Calvary, and that you can never held in account for your sins, that is a false doctrine. Why else would Jesus teld the prostitute to go and "SIN NO MORE." If her sins were forgiven, then he would have told her to go and try not to get a socially transmitted disease, instead of not to sin. Since he was to soon die for her, yours and my sins, he could have told her that, if that doctirne that is so widespread today, was a valid one. Through His death, our orginal sin was forgiven, and while He would rather that we not sin again, He has given us a pathway to be clean again, though repentance and attonment for our sins.

We should never cast stones in the path of another, to cause that person to stumble on their pathyway to Heaven. I would think that in doing so, that God would be most angry.

Just my opinion.

Infowarrior.... DU

Once again, you get it done. I am sure that you know who Joyce Riley is. She, a former US Army Nurse, began talking about Gulf War Illness back when it wasn't cool to do so, and almost single handedly fought the VA to recognize it.

Once again, it was a globalist, imperial minded Republican, George HW Bush who launched the Gulf War against Iraq, but refused to acknowledge that there was something queer affecting returning American troops from the Gulf. Joyce Riley appeared on talk shows years ago, before she got her own. She harrassed the VA, she spoke out, and finally, grudingly, the VA sais that there may be something to it.

I don't know if DU (Depleted Uranium) was soley responsible for the sickness that our troops experienced, in the cases of some, many years after their return, and it affected their family members as well, but it sure played a part in many of the cases.

"Hell, use DU because it goes through hardened targets, blow the crap out to the attacked nation, we don't care, because we will be in our cozy homes in Washington, D.C. If we lose troops, we will just get more. There are no jobs, they will join and like it. If we can't get enough to swell the Army of Imperialism, we will just get 30,000 Mexicans and OTM's to fight for our New World Order by promising them citizenship and citizenship for their foreign families. Ain't my kids that are going to die, so what the hell?" I am sure that was either Dick Cheney, or, George W. Bush. If it isn't an exact quote, I can safely say, it was their thinking.

Iraq now, is a much more polluted battlefield than it was during the Gulf War. The problems for our returning troops and their families has only just begun. That is the biggest sin of all, for they thought that they were doing the right thing, fighting for their country, when all they were are disposable pawns of the globaist, neocon elite and their war of imperailsm.

I used to think that imperailist was just a word that socialists and communists to describe my country. Imagine my dismay, now that I have discovered that if they weren't right about my countries leaders back then, it is sure as hell accurate today.