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Speak Out 8/19/08

Tuesday, August 19, 2008

Grate is missing

HAS ANYONE else noticed on the railroad tracks at the junction of Jackson Boulevard and Highway 25 there's a steel grate missing? It's like a pothole. It has been like this for months. Please fix the road.

Coming up short

TODAY I received a letter from the Jackson School District pertaining to the No Child Left Behind Act and how Jackson schools are coming up short based on this year's testing. This comes as no surprise to me. My child attends the high school. Last year he was struggling in a few classes. I went to Parent Link on the district website to check on my son's assignments and grades. The site wasn't up to date and had little information. This site is supposed to be updated by the teachers for parents to keep in touch on their child's academic progress. So I e-mailed the teachers for assignments and grade information. I never heard back. I called the counselor, who e-mailed the teachers and got little response. I went to the school and talked to the teachers, who seemed disinterested. I feel if the teachers won't take a few minutes a day to update a website or take the time to e-mail a concerned parent, this is probably contributing factor why the district is coming up short.

New school building

NOW THAT Delta has a new elementary school building in the works, I hope the district can focus on other things such as a new ag building. Start offering more classes at the high school. The only business class offered (personal finance) is mandated by the state. There are no advanced-placement classes for anyone. Let's remember the kids and focus on their needs.

Casino doubts

A CAPE Girardeau casino might make the developers a huge profit, but at what cost to our community? We've seen the effects of casinos in St. Louis and Kansas City first-hand, and the end results are never as promised. Casinos take away from other forms of entertainment, restaurants and more. Why take away from family-friendly entertainment options to make a few citizens richer?

Separating juveniles

CALLING CAROL McClard an "advocate" doesn't make her views any more appealing to me. Instead of highlighting her emotional appeals, tell us the facts about how much it would cost to separate these so-called victims of the system from the general population. And when separated, how much crime do these violent young people commit against each other? Violent felons need to be imprisoned, and Mrs. McClard's much-written-about grief doesn't change that.

Positively medieval

ECOLOGISTS AND environmentalists are often criticized on the grounds of wanting to turn back the clock. Maybe we should turn it back. A just-published historical study found that modern day office workers have less free time than did the medieval peasantry.

Make it beautiful

I WOULD like to take the city government to task about the downtown area. I am disappointed in the lack of improvement in the downtown area. Cape Girardeau has a lot to offer visitors, but streets leading to the downtown area are eyesores. Put up better lighting. Add some water features and landscaping. Get store owners to follow a set design for the exterior of their stores. I would also add the city needs to help draw more businesses to the downtown area by giving tax breaks and assisting them. This is a nice city, but it could also be a beautiful one.

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good morning

looks like a negative list to pick from today .

where do they get , or who decides , what is

printed on the main page every day ?

...sometimes it sounds familiar ...

-- Posted by ..Rick on Tue, Aug 19, 2008, at 4:43 AM

Thorngate's "downsizing" strategy will result in a gob of their employee's voluntarily quitting to seek full-time employment elsewhere. This way they'll never have to pay unemployment benefits to prior workers.

Administration-1, employees-0

-- Posted by RocketSurgeon on Tue, Aug 19, 2008, at 7:37 AM

RE: Grate is missing

It's been like that for awhile. I think it's located in a place where no matter what direction you are going/coming from you can easily avoid it.

-- Posted by TommyStix on Tue, Aug 19, 2008, at 9:17 AM

Was it to help a hometown company because they were struggling or perhaps, does his political linkage factor into the troubled issues for this company?

Will be interesting to watch this play out.

-- Posted by Me'Lange on Tue, Aug 19, 2008, 8:05 am CDT

My understanding is that Thorngate has been struggling and the recent economic trend has exacerbated the process. For you to suggest a political cause for the downslide is ludicrous and absurd. Surely you are embarassed and regretting your post, or are you merely provoking a political debate?

-- Posted by Theorist on Tue, Aug 19, 2008, at 9:36 AM

The "trend" is already here.Several large industrials in the area have been cutting back on employees.Yes,this will indeed play a major role in this areas economic well being.Untill recently,Cape

and the surrounding area has been a bit insulated from

the economic down turn other areas of the Country have been dealing with for almost a 12 months now.We all tend to tighten our belts in times like these.With Jobs being lost everyday locally the worst is indeed yet to come..however,it will get better down the road

a piece.

-- Posted by GREYWOLF on Tue, Aug 19, 2008, at 10:23 AM

One great idea for an attraction downtown would be one of those river boat casinos, with attractions and restaurants - and a hotel. Wouldn't that give the downtown a boost with a real anchor that would attract people and funds. If you've been to the St. Louis riverfront at night, the area around the riverfront casinos are awash with people visiting one venue after another, including the many cafes and businesses in between. Cape Girardeau would be a perfect location for such a venture. The real benefits will far outweigh the exaggerated negatives.

-- Posted by blogbudsman on Tue, Aug 19, 2008, at 10:25 AM

Coming up short- My child had open house last Thursday from 6-7:30. When we showed up at 6:15 the classroom was dark and there was no sign of a teacher. Us and 3 other families signed our names on the logs and dropped off supplies and left.

-- Posted by outnabout on Tue, Aug 19, 2008, at 10:49 AM

We already have that system in Missouri. McClard was turned down by a judge that certified him as an adult. McClard shot the kid THREE TIMES!!!! How are you going to treat and educate him...tell him to only shoot once. The system says that the kid's status will be re checked when they are 17, then the mother thinks this kid should get one year in a juvenile detention center for shooting another kid THREE times!!

Kids today know that if you shoot someone, then they could DIE!!! Kids today also have NO FEAR of getting in trouble because the juvenile system is a joke to them. They will be with thier friends and brag about the crimes that they commit. They also know that nothing can be done to them because they are juveniles. I am not saying that all juveniles should be certified as adult's, but McClard should have been certified and "earned" the prison sentence that he got by shooting the other kid THREE times. He "earned" the 30 year sentence.

He knew what the punishment was when he went to the car wash and waited for the kid to show up. He knew what the punishment was when he shot the kid THREE times!!! What did he think...that his attorney could get him into juvenile detention when he tried to kill someone!!! Did he hope that he would be out of jail when he turned 17? No...he was trying to kill another kid. The realize of what was occuring sank in when the first bullet hit the other kid. Did he stop when he realized what he had done? Did he pause? No...he put TWO more bullets into the kid. Again, how do you treat that..when he realized what he had done...knew it was wrong...knew it could kill the kid...and slammed two more rounds into the kids flesh!!

The juvenile system already handles many of the issue realted to the story. Police are not allowed to have juvenile's near adults when arrested. Juvenile's are not near adult prisoners unless they have been certified as adults. This occurs when a JUDGE hears evidence and decides that the severity of the crime merits the juvenile being charged in adult court.

There is a juvenile in the Cape Girardeau County jail right now for killing another person in Stoddard County. He has been there for over a year and he has not been harmed or killed himself. If you want to do the crime and attempt to kill another child, then you need to be able to do the time. If you cannot do the time, because you are afraid of what may happen to you in prison, then you should not go to your house....get a gun....wait for your victim....ambush your victim....then shot them THREE times....and you will not have to worry about what happens to you in prison!!!

Did we already forget about Columbine? Should those kids have gotten juvenile detention if they had not killed themselves? Please show me the difference. Both were cold blooded attacks!!!

-- Posted by cartman on Tue, Aug 19, 2008, at 10:57 AM


the festivities begin Friday nite around 6pm.

However,All of the teams will be on site and

set up by noon.So yes,come on by and you will

see many BBQ TEAMS at work and the public is

welcome.Friday night there will be a band playing

and cash bar as well as a BBQ stand to purchase

food.We are not allowed to serve to the public but

on Saturday(the actual contest)we always let folks taste what we cook as it helps us decide which to

turn in for judging.I know many teams who do it as well.I will be on site all day Friday so feel free to drop by and say hey!The Greywolf cooks for "The Ribmen"

and Cape electric is our sponsor.Well I guess my identity will finally be known if you and Pups or anyone else drops by the tent.I would enjoy seeing anyone from this media.You can't miss the "wolf" he is indeed the good looking middle aged man with that salt and pepper thing going on on top of his head.Oh and you won't mistake my cologne as it smells like Hickory smoke and BBQ!

-- Posted by GREYWOLF on Tue, Aug 19, 2008, at 11:00 AM


hope to see you there and anyone else who wants to drop by.This is a GREAT event for the entire Family

and Friday nights festivities are a blast.I encourage everyone looking for something to do Friday night to

come to Arena park and enjoy a neat experience and great time.

-- Posted by GREYWOLF on Tue, Aug 19, 2008, at 11:31 AM


Ask anyone who has ever worked at Thorngate (there are many) and they will tell you the company has had many eliminations of shifts, reduction of work force and cutbacks in days worked over the years. But perhaps they didn't get the coverage that this decision is causing. Did you happen to notice that Obama's visit was mentioned frequently as well as his quotes? Would Thorngate get so much media attention if it were not an election year? I think not.

-- Posted by BABE on Tue, Aug 19, 2008, at 12:14 PM

re: grate is missing

I should fall in with the rest of the crowd and tell the person to fix it themselves. giggle

-- Posted by BABE on Tue, Aug 19, 2008, at 12:16 PM


I understand what you have said concerning

private parties and no samples.The local

health department prohibits free samples to the public.

Many teams including ours do cook food for friends and co-workers on Friday nite.We usually only cook burgers

for our friends and Families and ask them to bring chips.I plan on serving burgers around 7pm.If you drop by and share some of your BBQ knowledge I am sure I can share a beer and a burger.The catagories in the Kansas City sanctioned BBQ events are Chicken,ribs,brisket and butts.4 catagories that turn in beginning at noon Sat.and every 30 minutes there after.The final results are announced at 3pm Sat.

The public is welcome on both days however the teams are pretty busy on Sat.so not as many folks come out.

This is when I have a few samples to taste.I do not start contest cooking untill midnite Fri.I put on my butts and briskets at that time.The meat is checked in at 1pm friday and teams can if they desire start cooking anytime after that.They also have a showmanship catagory that starts around 7:30 or 8pm where teams who enter do skits.Those are always fun to watch and family friendly as well.Myself and my co-chef enjoy anyone who wants to share BBQ secrets or just sit for a bit and discuss BBQ.Stop by and feel free to walk into our site.Introduce yourself and we

will be happy to sit and talk over a beer.Beer and alcohol are allowed but prefer beer in a koozie.Don't worry about any crowd that might be in our designated site!Walk in and I will be there ready to meet you.

Cape Electric Ribmen are always willing to discuss BBQ.

There is money prizes for winners.It pays up to 10th place in each catagory.The higher you place the more money you win.Its always nice to win.We have always done well at this event taking Grand Champion some years back and twice in Sikeston.We have over 30 trophies and have been cooking now since 1995.The last several years we have slowed down to just two events in the area Cape being one of them and Jackson the other.The last few sentences were simply bragging points as you probably well know!!cya there,Oh just ask for Greywolf and you will be directed to me.

-- Posted by GREYWOLF on Tue, Aug 19, 2008, at 12:16 PM


It would be nice if we were allowed to create more free time while maintaining current lifestyles or improving. I will say that I'd like to see the study you called about...because I'm not convinced that we have less free time overall. I will say a modern office worker does not work anywhere near as hard physically as a medieval peasant.

-- Posted by Super_Bethie on Tue, Aug 19, 2008, at 12:16 PM


I just reread the article from the link you posted. Evidently the parent company is in Chicago. hmmmmmmm

-- Posted by BABE on Tue, Aug 19, 2008, at 12:27 PM


The open house was for the fifth grade. The other 2 classes had teachers present. Jackson district. It's just disappointing to see the excitement on her face fall as she realizes her new teacher was not there to greet her.

-- Posted by outnabout on Tue, Aug 19, 2008, at 12:49 PM

Grey- I love BBQ fests and I will be sure to drop by. Have you have ever been to the Memphis in May BBQ fest?

Finagled my way in to some private parties there a couple years ago and wow is all I can say. The food was awesome and everyone was super friendly.

-- Posted by outnabout on Tue, Aug 19, 2008, at 12:51 PM


Very good points.

-- Posted by Red_Rhino on Tue, Aug 19, 2008, at 1:29 PM


Liberal candidates love to have rallies in Cape Girardeau as it is the home of Rush Limbaugh. No, I'm not kidding as the Clintons mentioned it during their premier rally here.

Oh, I forgot to comment on your mother's observation about casual dress. I agree. Salesmen in men's shops don't even wear the suits they sell anymore. The biggest shock I have received lately was visiting my daughter's mega church. The pastor came out wearing a polo shirt, khaki pants and mocassins and this is his apparel of choice most Sundays. I guess casual Fridays have spilled out into casual Sundays, too.

I hope you have a nice little black dress and a good string of pearls to dress for a nice dinner or party. giggle

-- Posted by BABE on Tue, Aug 19, 2008, at 1:53 PM

Ah! The Wonderful World of School. It seems that all educators are wrong in everything they do to help kids. One day, which will be to late, parents will understand that they messed their own kids up. So quit blaming everything on the schools and take responsibility for your own _____kids.

-- Posted by Biker_28 on Tue, Aug 19, 2008, at 3:42 PM


Did your parents teach you to use "to" instead of "too" incorrectly in your sentence?

-- Posted by BABE on Tue, Aug 19, 2008, at 4:03 PM

Oh I don't know Little-mac,

That all sounds much more rewarding than what I am

doing!!Certainly more work though!Yep I agree,let the

poster "GO first",I doubt I will be right behind him!

-- Posted by GREYWOLF on Tue, Aug 19, 2008, at 4:26 PM

Little Mac.


-- Posted by outnabout on Tue, Aug 19, 2008, at 4:50 PM


A real lady needs a good string of pearls and a nice deviled egg dish, always.

-- Posted by BABE on Tue, Aug 19, 2008, at 5:30 PM

Babe, even though I shouldn't, I find it ludicrous that you would point out to biker the "to" and "too" error. Since your comments often contain so many grammatical and mechanical errors, were I you I'd first polish up my own English skills. Typical conservative practice--do as I say, not as I do.

-- Posted by iago1 on Tue, Aug 19, 2008, at 7:15 PM

Delta has several business classes or they wouldn't have a business teacher. And as far as AP classes go, students choose whether they want to get their 3 math credits by taking prealgebra, basic math and consumer math as opposed to algebra 1 and 2, geometry, or advanced math. The sames goes for english or science. There are options out there. My child takes the hardest classes availible and gets a good education.

-- Posted by wellwellwell on Tue, Aug 19, 2008, at 8:01 PM

Re: Positively medieval

For one, am impressed and a bit encouraged that 'medieval' was spelled correctly.

For another, rang a bell with what an elder (you know, the people that are viewed as old fuddy-duddies, until it becomes clear just how smart they really are) said - "Just makes one ask why, that with all the labor- and time-saving devices available now-a-days, everyone seems to be too busy and too tired".

-- Posted by fxpwt on Tue, Aug 19, 2008, at 8:14 PM

Re: Make it beautiful

"Get store owners to follow a set design for the exterior of their stores."

Ah, so we're going after that ever-popular strip mall look?

"the city needs to help draw more businesses to the downtown area by giving tax breaks and assisting them"

And just where is this money supposed to come from? That proposed reduction in anticipated income will have to come out of the budget from somewhere. No snow removal, reduced trash service - what is the caller willing to sacrifice up-front on the uncertain hopes that the end will justify the means somewhere down the line? Or is the solution just to raise taxes (yet again) to pay for all this feel-good stuff?

"Add some water features and landscaping."

Certainly could take some notes here from SEMO U. - "symbolism over substance" as one famous formerly-from-this-hometown radio personality calls this mindset. Who cares about the condition of the rest of the car as long as there is a bright-and-shiny hood ornament sitting up front?

Oh, but think of the children... :-)~

-- Posted by fxpwt on Tue, Aug 19, 2008, at 9:26 PM

Re: Grate is missing

A pothole - a 'glass half-empty' perspective

A low-cost, but easily avoidable speed control measure - an innovative 'glass half-full' perspective.

All seriousness aside, if this makes the list of things for the caller to complain about - he/she must lead a blessed life. :-)~

-- Posted by fxpwt on Tue, Aug 19, 2008, at 9:39 PM

fxpwt: Why people have less 'free time,' in this day & age of vacuum cleaners (vs carpet sweepers), dishwashers, automatic washers & dryers, microwaves, electric coffeepots, gas-powered lawn mowers, weed-eaters, cakes mixes, boxed macaroni & cheese, frozen pizzas, etc...? Hmmm...Multiple trips each week (used to be shopping was the day after each payday) to the grocery store (think Walmart); taking kids to/from multiple school functions (sports, etc.) or even to friends' homes (kids used to walk now & then), dashing to McDonald's, maybe? I'm thinking I'd have to 'question' that recent study on 'free time.'

BTW: The Missourian puts the titles on Speak Out comments if the caller/writer doesn't. ;-)

-- Posted by gurusmom on Tue, Aug 19, 2008, at 10:33 PM

make it beautiful,

downtown is better than it was 15 years ago or so. So if we are honest with ourselves downtown cape is never going to be anything too special. there are some nice little shops and a couple good places to eat and drink. asthetically it is OK but not too special. it will never be any type of retail magnet that it may have been in years past. it has to stick with the quirky (hempies comes to mind) and the social (rude dog pub). i enjoy walking around, going into a few shops, and getting an ice cream from port cape. bel air is fun to sit on the deck on a cool evening and listen to the music.

i am not sure what the expectations should be for downtown cape. there are few empty shops (not including those along broadway up the hill). This is not st. louis or memphis. It is cape. let's be realistic. BTW still would like a casino downtown.

-- Posted by shortwhitebaldguy on Tue, Aug 19, 2008, at 10:39 PM


I agree with you about the strip mall look. On a trip my daughter and I had to pull off the interstate to Jackson, Mississippi to have a contact prescription refilled at Wal Mart. While trying to find it we took different streets. At least in that area we were surprised to see all stores had this same silly looking exterior including Wal-Mart.

-- Posted by BABE on Tue, Aug 19, 2008, at 10:54 PM


i think it is improving in certain areas. downtown is cleaner than it used to be. i do miss riverfest. the music festival is OK but at least riverfest had a few family centered activities. i think you are right to do these activities to bring people downtown.

i could do without the cruisin' on Broadway the way it used to be. however i did not grow up here so i have no nostalgic value to that. To me it was just a nuisance.

i think there are some positive changes and i believe the river campus will help. cape also does not need to promote the university as the university should do a better job itself. some new blood there would not hurt either.

-- Posted by shortwhitebaldguy on Tue, Aug 19, 2008, at 11:36 PM

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