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Speak Out 8/15/08

Friday, August 15, 2008

We need a casino

REGARDING A casino for Cape Girardeau: I hope we can get one in Cape Girardeau. It would help the downtown. Maybe a casino would give us a chance to get more improvements downtown.

Throwing away money

WE DON'T need a casino. It's sad to feel good about making money from the losses of other people. The people most interested in the gambling casino coming to Cape Girardeau are the ones complaining about low salaries, high taxes, the price of gasoline and not being able to afford necessary goods and services such as health care, food and clothing. Amazingly these same people are willing to go to a casino and throw money away in the hopes of being one of the few who actually win a big jackpot. They throw money away weekly on the lottery for the same reason. You're more likely to get struck by lightning or bitten by a snake than winning a lot of money.

Four-way stop

HOW LONG is Jackson going to keep this ridiculous four-way stop? It holds people up in every direction. No one seems to know how to proceed through the intersection in a lawful fashion. It is a new millennium. It is no longer the 1950s, Jackson. Come on.

Coroner's pay

I AM a faithful reader of the Southeast Missourian and try to watch the local TV news at least twice daily. I am amused by all the hype about our county officials. There has been much discussion on pay, hours worked and the efficiency of the county offices. No one ever talks about the coroner, who works well over the 30 or so hours per week that many of the other elected officials are supposed to work. The coroner is always at the scene of a tragic death. His pay is less than half the other elected officials. Maybe some of the overpaid officials need to share their wealth with the coroner. I bet there is not one elected county official who would be willing to do the coroner's job at twice the pay. Those other officials need to appreciate the jobs they have and work a little harder to earn their pay.

Spreading blame

WHAT DOES a child's family income have to do with how well a child does on the MAP test? Again the teachers have turned the test around to make their failure the fault of these children. I would ask that teachers do their jobs.

Thanks for cell phone

I WOULD like to thank the lady who found my son's cell phone in the grass at Andy's and turned it in. We appreciate your kindness. Sorry, but we did not catch your name or we would have sent you a personal thank you.

Not fair and balanced

FOX NEWS flacks have once again been shut out as moderators of the upcoming presidential debates. This reinforces the growing belief that the "news" network that claims to be fair and balanced is just the opposite.


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Where is everybody. I hope the last one here turned out the lights.

-- Posted by Observer1 on Fri, Aug 15, 2008, at 9:10 AM

Observer,

People are still posting on yesterday's Speak Out as todays is hard to find.

-- Posted by Red_Rhino on Fri, Aug 15, 2008, at 10:00 AM

what's wrong w/ the 4way in jackson? i don't know that a stop light would be a great idea because i think the traffic would get backed up. thats just me. i have lived there for 25 years and never had any major problems at the 4way.

-- Posted by lovemyfamily on Fri, Aug 15, 2008, at 10:12 AM

playing hide~and~seek today with SO ..

maybe will weed out some arguements..

-- Posted by ..Rick on Fri, Aug 15, 2008, at 10:26 AM

Fox News,

I like Fox News and watch it often, but also watch other stations too. A lot of Fox is not really "news", but opinion and entertainment. Why be so upset because of their claims to be "Fair and Balanced"? KFVS claims to be "Live, Local and Late Breaking"...

-- Posted by Red_Rhino on Fri, Aug 15, 2008, at 10:30 AM

Rick,

May delay, but not eliminate.

-- Posted by Red_Rhino on Fri, Aug 15, 2008, at 10:31 AM

Casinos,

Don't care, never been to one and never will.

Fox News,

As "Fair and Balanced" as any of them. I use to watch CNN almost exclusively, but rarely do any more. I believe most news organizations are slanted one way or the other and I NEVER watch ABC, CBS or NBC news.

-- Posted by Alt Ctrl Del on Fri, Aug 15, 2008, at 10:40 AM

..i wonder which 4-way stop in Jackson

they're talking about ?

-- Posted by ..Rick on Fri, Aug 15, 2008, at 10:40 AM

We need a casino;

No we donít.

Four-way stop

Off with their heads (Bear and .)

Coroner's pay

My initial reaction is to agree, but then it takes a special kind of person to be a coroner as well as firefighter, police officer, soldier, accountant, clerk or whatever. While most would be repelled by the work of a coroner, they choose this line of work and asked to be elected. If they donít like it, donít do it. I couldnít do any of them.

Spreading blame

Income means nothing, teachers teach and students learn, both have to actively participate.

Not fair and balanced

Who cares; ďPresidential DebatesĒ no longer exist, just a photo op with candidates spewing for talking points and canned speeches.

-- Posted by D'oh on Fri, Aug 15, 2008, at 10:55 AM

i just assumed they are talking about the main one by the courthouse/license bureau. they just want to complain.

-- Posted by lovemyfamily on Fri, Aug 15, 2008, at 10:58 AM

Rick,

I wondered that myself, not like there is only one. I find Jackson kind of hard to drive in most places.

-- Posted by Red_Rhino on Fri, Aug 15, 2008, at 10:58 AM

Yes I also assume the main 4 way by the post office. If this person is going to complain be specific at least. And by all means complain to SO cause that'll get it changed.

-- Posted by outnabout on Fri, Aug 15, 2008, at 11:08 AM

..getting a casino is a crap shoot ..

at first , the place will be packed with people .

after the newness wears off , then what

would happen ?

it's a real roll of the dice , i tell ya...

-- Posted by ..Rick on Fri, Aug 15, 2008, at 11:18 AM

Testing...Hmmm. Online SO is kinda weird today. I wonder if there's any truth to the rumor going around about what the new editor has in mind?

Four-way stop:

It'd be useful if the dolt who called this in would identify which intersection in Jackson, rather than just 'itch & moan about it...hmmm, a Clintonazi staffer must've made off with my "B" key again! It's probably the one at the courthouse/P.O., as there's also the 4-way at Shawnee & Main that's no problem at all.

Back when Paul Sander was Mayor, I used to like to tease and generally annoy him about creating a giant traffic circle around the courthouse, e.g.: Coming south on North High (61 North), circle right, counter-clockwise around the courthouse, so you could just shoot right onto the adjoining streets. Might make it easier for the truckers trying to get through town too. Paul would humor me about that, but kinda passed the buck on to MODOT.

-- Posted by Herr_Hauptmann_DES on Fri, Aug 15, 2008, at 11:32 AM

Herr,

That is the way it is in Bloomfield and it works quite well. Of course it is a much smaller town.

-- Posted by Red_Rhino on Fri, Aug 15, 2008, at 11:35 AM

Herr

Think you hit the nail on the head on that one. 4 way stop. They need to itch to someone else. (guess my b is working sporadically also)

-- Posted by outnabout on Fri, Aug 15, 2008, at 11:38 AM

Throwing away money,

It's just a form of entertainment. It's not that I feel good about the loss of other people's money, but it's no different than spending $8 to go to a movie. Do you feel bad for those people. NO. Casinos automatically have a stigma attached to them because some people with no will-power don't know when to stop. I don't see you whining to speak out about alcohol. Same difference. There are those that know when to quit and those that don't, it's a fact of life, but certainly not a reason to stop what very well could be a good time for many people

-- Posted by Producer1 on Fri, Aug 15, 2008, at 11:40 AM

BTW Red_Rhino, thanks for the heads up on yesterdays page on how to find todays. i almost gave up

-- Posted by Producer1 on Fri, Aug 15, 2008, at 11:44 AM

Red:

Yeah. The idea came to me mostly 'cause I liked to give Paul some "stuff" now and then; however, when I started to think about it more seriously, it sure seemed better than how that mess is now. It's really a pain in the Alpha when several truckers try come through town from the I-55 offramp in Fruitland, via 61 North.

-- Posted by Herr_Hauptmann_DES on Fri, Aug 15, 2008, at 11:44 AM

Herr,

I have been through a few towns set up like this and it seems to work fairly well. The turn left and then right as you come into town off of 61 has always seemed problematic as it seems they have changed it a couple of times.

Producer,

I have run into this problem with a missing Speak Out before; don't know why, but it usually shows up later in the day.

-- Posted by Red_Rhino on Fri, Aug 15, 2008, at 11:57 AM

Red:

You're right about that nighmare. I've seen four or five truckers in line trying to make that hard 90 degree left, then a short block later only to attempt a hard right. What a pain for them. Then they aften find traffic already backed up from the stop sign at the P.O. I figured, and told Paul, that if they could "shave off" all the corners going c-c around the courthouse, making it more like a real circle, it'd make it a whole lot easier for the truckers...could still keep those parking slots in front of the businesses too, but could also be eliminated.

Producer:

When I've found the SO page weirdin' up like today, it usually works for me to click on "Headlines" up on the menu line. Then scroll down to the opinion section; usually it'll show the new SO for the day.

-- Posted by Herr_Hauptmann_DES on Fri, Aug 15, 2008, at 12:24 PM

Herr, you are certainly correct about the four way right by the courthouse. It's bad enough when there isn't truckers there. They need to make a way for those truckers to get from 61 over to 72 or 34 (whatever that road is that goes through the middle of jackson) that way they can get into jackson without having to go through the middle of town, it definitely isn't trucker-friendly. Not quite sure how they would do that but it would help

-- Posted by Producer1 on Fri, Aug 15, 2008, at 12:39 PM

Producer:

Yeah, it's a real can of worms for truckers coming through Jackson, from any direction. When I came to Jackson back in '87, there was only that two-lane "country road" directly connecting Jackson/Cape, unless you wanted to drop down 25 to Gordonville and across. Look at East Jackson Blvd now...wish I had invested in land along that road! Anyway, it's only logical that 61 N. to Fruitland should've been enlarged, including turning lanes, by now. That's what I also bugged Paul Sander about too after I moved out to that area. But, hey, you don't expect city/county bureaucrats to listen to us lowly taxpayers, do ya?!

-- Posted by Herr_Hauptmann_DES on Fri, Aug 15, 2008, at 1:02 PM

..truckers need to take a different exit off of

I55 ...

-- Posted by ..Rick on Fri, Aug 15, 2008, at 1:06 PM

Ms McClard is once again writing a letter to the editor and pointing accusing fingers at everyone except her own son. He delibertly and coldly shot a man three times and then comitted suicide when he couldn't face his sentence.

I wish this paper would cease printing her garbage. No one really cares.

-- Posted by BABE on Fri, Aug 15, 2008, at 1:45 PM

I've always wondered why there asn't a bypass from I55 to the 72/34 junction. When I worked East of town I had to drive by schools or through that 4 way near the courthouse. Jackson is not laid out well for trafic flow to me.

-- Posted by BCStoned on Fri, Aug 15, 2008, at 2:02 PM

poppa

No, I don't care if her worthless son comitted suicide in prison. He was tried as an adult and convicted by a jury. He shot a man three times and deserved the sentence. If his mother had her way, all juveniles would go to into a nice rehab center, no matter what the crime.

And, poppa, follow the money trail from the organization she is affiliated with now. I would not be surprised that she is receiving big bucks from them because she is now a 'victim' of the judicial system.

-- Posted by BABE on Fri, Aug 15, 2008, at 2:22 PM

You can ask anyone in Law Enforcement in this area and they will tell you that the Honorable David Dolan is the most lenient judge in this area. I have known him since he was a Prosecuting Attorney. If Judge Dolan did not feel it appropriate to place McClard in a juvenile system, I am inclined to believe he had a very good reason and no other judge would have acted differently.

I can certainly understand Mrs. McClard's anguish and her interest in the area of juvenile justice as there certainly may be problems. Having said that however, I remain to be convinced that there was anything inappropriate in the way McClard's case was handled. However, since I have not read the IPO reports nor ever interview McClard, I could be wrong; just my opinion.

-- Posted by Red_Rhino on Fri, Aug 15, 2008, at 2:28 PM

I have interviewed juveniles who have murdered friends, strangers and in one instance a girlfriend because she broke up with him. It is difficult for me to see any circumstances in which any of these young men should be placed with other juveniles. I am sure the families of the juveniles they would victimize would have legitimate cause for alarm and complaint. All DAI facilities have Administrative Segregation Units for individuals who would be in danger if placed in general population.

-- Posted by Red_Rhino on Fri, Aug 15, 2008, at 2:48 PM

Poppa,

Well, you must know David better than I.

As to rehabilitation, I won't argue that point as I never met him. I do believe in rehabilitation as I have seen it, after completing a prison sentence or even without; just never could predict who would and who wouldn't.

-- Posted by Red_Rhino on Fri, Aug 15, 2008, at 2:53 PM

Melange, is dinner still on for tonight? Who all is coming?

Herr, I hope you can join us tonight. Would like to meet you.

I have been loading up the moving van all day.Still have more to go. Twiggy is at the dr. office. Her knee is really swollen.

Hopefully we can leave out of here by sunday. Its a good 12 hrs down to Aggieland. See you all tonight at El Acapulco. Aggie

-- Posted by Aggiefan/Twiggy on Fri, Aug 15, 2008, at 3:15 PM

Poppa,

Apologize in advance to everyone for going back over plowed ground, but as to the way this was handled, I don't care for Morley Swingle either, but no one has disputed the facts of this case as far as I know. Having heard the facts, Judge Dolan passed sentence and later refused to treat him as a juvenile. David Dolan is NOT a "Prosecutor's Judge" and makes his decisions, for better or worse, on what he thinks is appropriate.

Jonathan McClard made the decision to ambush the victim and later made the decision to commit suicide. That decision cannot be put at anyone else's feet.

And yes I had a very close relative commit suicide at an early age, so I know how it affects the family. I know how it affected me.

-- Posted by Red_Rhino on Fri, Aug 15, 2008, at 3:25 PM

Melange, I hope Pups can make it, I would like to present him with a gift. Aggie

-- Posted by Aggiefan/Twiggy on Fri, Aug 15, 2008, at 3:30 PM

MeLange

Ditto to what you said about gambling. My mother often went to Baton Rouge with her lady friends to gamble on the 'boat'. She always allocated $25.00 to spend and no more. Well, one day she set off the sirens and won $5000 on the slots. She called me and I asked her what she was going to buy with her winnings. She told me that she had put the money (after taxes) in her gambling money shoebox and use the same amount when she went to the boat.

BTW..is you ever go there, you can have a free bloody mary with pickled okra, olives, celery and lemons. You can eat your lunch while drinking it. LOL

-- Posted by BABE on Fri, Aug 15, 2008, at 3:35 PM

MeíLange,

I disagree that it is always the parentsí fault or failure in parenting when someone commits a crime. My cousin is doing a lengthy sentence in prison while his four brothers and sister have led exemplary lives; same parents and same parenting. I have seen this over and over again, too often for it to be an anomaly. I do not discount the importance of responsible parenting or how important it is, but it is not always a guarantee as to how the child will turn out one way or the other.

As to access to guns, I donít even want to get started on this. I have had access to weapons since birth as have most in SE Missouri. I know you like to do research; please do some on it. Professor John Lott has written on it and John Stossel of ABC has aired his own research on it as has DOJ and other governmental entities and CDC.

-- Posted by Red_Rhino on Fri, Aug 15, 2008, at 3:38 PM

Me'Lange,

I know what you mean about depression; had medical problems/disabilities for forty years; just gets worse with age. I have never understood what drove my young relative to the choice he made as he was young healthy, had a good education and bright future without any financial worries. I guess we really never know what is going on with another.

-- Posted by Red_Rhino on Fri, Aug 15, 2008, at 3:44 PM

MeLange

Why would you expect family to save you from suicide? It's your problem and yours only. If you feel yourself slipping just check into the stres unit or else go ahead and off yourself. Must you always be a 'victim'?

-- Posted by BABE on Fri, Aug 15, 2008, at 3:57 PM

..hear kids say their life is scre.wed up

from all the alcohol their parents drank ..

maybe the parents drank all of that alcohol

because the kid was scre.wed up...

all u can do is ur best and hope for the best ..

-- Posted by ..Rick on Fri, Aug 15, 2008, at 3:59 PM

MeLange

And where is your harsh comment, praytell?

-- Posted by BABE on Fri, Aug 15, 2008, at 4:08 PM

Me'Lange,

Don't mean to be picking on you, but if we are going to hold parents responsible for crimes committed using their firearms why not hold them responsible for everything? I've know people to steal their parents' firearms. Why not hold Police Officers responsible when someone takes their weapon away from them and shoots them or commits a crime with it? Someone broke into my house and stole a couple of guns several years ago; should I be held responsible if they are ever used in a crime? Slippery slope.

-- Posted by Red_Rhino on Fri, Aug 15, 2008, at 4:09 PM

Me'Lange,

Not that it makes any difference, but it was a .22 caliber rifle.

-- Posted by Red_Rhino on Fri, Aug 15, 2008, at 4:17 PM

Guns should be handy enough to blow someone away if they break into your house. The person who breaks in should be aware of the fact that breaking and entering a persons home is not worth the risk.

-- Posted by BCStoned on Fri, Aug 15, 2008, at 4:28 PM

MeíLange,

No I cannot accept that reasoning. The Supreme Court recently made a ruling against the law in Washington DC requiring such storage of firearms and recognizing the right to have a firearm readily accessible for personal protection. I think we went over this extensively some time ago about people stealing stuff out of your car. I know from personal experience that you do not know when you may need a firearm. The first thing to go in a dangerous situation is fine motor control and you will probably not be able to get your gun out of a locked container in time.

No, I was never required to keep my duty weapon locked and neither does my son. That is not to say some Departments donít, just none around here that I know.

-- Posted by Red_Rhino on Fri, Aug 15, 2008, at 4:31 PM

Me'Lange,

Re: Minor owning a firearm. This is SE Missouri; need I say more? While a minor cannot go into a store and buy one, I have owned a gun since I was thirteen as have about every kid I grew up with. It was no different than a Kaiser Blade, Maddox, Briar Scythe or ax. It was a tool with a specific use.

-- Posted by Red_Rhino on Fri, Aug 15, 2008, at 4:38 PM

Just scrolled down the page and saw way too many red Volkswagen avatars, I'm out for a while, enjoyed the discussions have a good night.

-- Posted by Red_Rhino on Fri, Aug 15, 2008, at 4:48 PM

Russia just bought the John Maneely company, a steel pipe making company in Ohio for $3.5 billion. See, all that money that consumers and the government has borrowed is comming home. But Russia has only enough dollars to buy a hundred more like John Maneely.

-- Posted by BCStoned on Fri, Aug 15, 2008, at 5:04 PM

Fore the 4way stop in jackson,maybe a good ol round a bout would fix the problem.

As for the casino,IT WILL CREATE JOBS!!!something we really need here in Cape.The casino in downtown St louis had made a major improvement in the area and is now safe to walk around because of it.St Charles has benefited from the casino as well.

-- Posted by mogearjammer on Fri, Aug 15, 2008, at 5:09 PM

MeLange

No antedotal experiences will convince me that a person who truly wants to kill themself will be twarted.

Your friend needed attention and so did you in your crying to your family about suicide.

-- Posted by BABE on Fri, Aug 15, 2008, at 5:22 PM

Babe: are you bi-polar? A little on the weird side of life? Maybe you should consider other peoples feelings before you make asinine comments. Walk in others shoes to see what they have gone through.

Your Dr. needs to up your meds before your mouth overloads your ARSE. AGGIE

-- Posted by Aggiefan/Twiggy on Fri, Aug 15, 2008, at 8:53 PM

ah, just too quiet here - so must be time to stir the pot a bit. :-)

From http://news.aol.com/political-machine/20...

"#6) Having no resume. Obama has no accomplishments. No narrative of note to share with American voters. He was a law professor and legal editor without a single article or essay of note published. He was a community organizer, with no demonstrable contribution. Obama was a state senator with no signature legislation. He has been briefly a U.S. Senator (less than 300 work days), also with little to show for it. The only accomplishment of significance is authoring a book on his favorite topic - himself. As a bestseller, it only shows that Obama doesn't make mistakes when maximizing profits off his public service."

Perhaps it is truly better to be a complete zero, than to have a balance sheet of plusses and minuses, debits and credits for everyone to pick through and assign values to.

Especially when the rule-of-thumb is that it takes 100 atta-boys to cancel out 1 aw-crap. No atta-boys, no aw-craps - Obama is just nothing short of perfect in a political realm!

-- Posted by fxpwt on Fri, Aug 15, 2008, at 9:01 PM

Melange,Mom Pups, and Nickey,

We had a great time so glad we got to visit and thanks Mom for our lunch. I will miss seeing you all, but at least we can email and have SO. Thanks for such a wonderful evening.

Twiggy

-- Posted by Aggiefan/Twiggy on Fri, Aug 15, 2008, at 9:20 PM

Aggie

Not enough bran in your cereal this morning?

-- Posted by BABE on Fri, Aug 15, 2008, at 9:24 PM

Instructor et.al. food for thought....

Remember the Jonesboro school shootings in 1998? Two students age 11 and 13 shot and killed 4 peers and 1 teacher. The 11 year old was trained to carry a firearm the 13 year old had never shot a gun. They are now free (having turned 21) and clear to purchase firearms. What is WRONG with this picture?????

-- Posted by Theorist on Fri, Aug 15, 2008, at 9:28 PM

Hmmmm, MAP test score concerns coupled with a graduation rate of 71%.

Brings up a lot of questions - don't claim to have the answers - but in the world of "things that make you go 'hmmmm'" -.

Would be interesting to know what percentage of students who score poorly on MAP tests progress on to dropping out, or have other unacceptable performance indicators such as poor attendance or disciplinary problems above the 'averages' or norms?

No Child Left Behind should take into account those who freely and independently choose to '******* the bus' and to be 'left behind'.

You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him/her drink - those who don't want to learn, won't - those who do want to learn can't be stopped.

Can we honestly say that we are promoting the efforts of those students who excel to the same extent that we are concerned about the students who just can't or won't keep up?

There is a general shortage in many areas of technical and professional occupations. There doesn't seem to be any shortage of dishwashers, shelve-stockers, and grass-mowers. Where should we best place our educational efforts?

If one can't or won't keep up with the general pace, then here's your broom.

-- Posted by fxpwt on Fri, Aug 15, 2008, at 9:32 PM

Theorist

What's wrong with the picture is that both should have been tried as adults and executed.

-- Posted by BABE on Fri, Aug 15, 2008, at 9:32 PM

ah, my first censored comment - the asteriks should have been g . e . t . o . f . f .

I feel so honored now, almost like a regular commenter :-)~

-- Posted by fxpwt on Fri, Aug 15, 2008, at 9:35 PM

NO Babe, you (as usual lately) are wrong. Lots wrong, but not that. They should have never had access to firearms. They should have had better supervision, but then dad taught the one boy how to use the gun. (Hmmmm)

They should not be out scott free at age 21, and they DEFINITELY should NOT be able to buy firearms now!

-- Posted by Theorist on Fri, Aug 15, 2008, at 9:37 PM

Re: four-way stop

Surely the caller is not suggesting change? Oh my gosh!

'Change' doesn't seem to be well-received in this area, particularly given the track record of some recent changes not perceived by many as 'for the better' - a sales tax increase for fluffy, non-essential stuff; the 'new' county commissioner's actions; roundabouts; the new flippin' mutt-dog-ugly license plates; and so on.

For those chomping at the bit to counter with all the wonderful and utopian benefits of change - remember - the 'cost' of 1 aw-crap offsets the 'benefits' of 100 or so atta-boys. Hopes y'all have a really long list :-)~

-- Posted by fxpwt on Fri, Aug 15, 2008, at 9:54 PM

Babe: why yes had my usual 6-pack Corona for breakfast followed by another for lunch.

My intake has no bearing of your insults. I despise people like yourself whom hide behind your monitor and hand out lavish insults to friends of mine who have done you no harm. Maybe you should show your cowardly face and debate your beliefs? I think not, just as others here on this forum are afraid too.

Melange was kind enough to share past experience and you twist it to harm her character. Which you have none.

See, in my eyes you have to have character and integrity to be of human nature. Which you have none. Aggie

-- Posted by Aggiefan/Twiggy on Fri, Aug 15, 2008, at 10:36 PM

Aggie

You get your bran out of a six pack? giggle

I stand with what I said. If a person wants to end their life they should be able to do so. But that does not mean they should burden others with their decision. Most folks do have suicidal thoughts in their lifetime but to blame others for not being there for you or giving you wrong advice is asinine as well as taking the blame.

MeLange

As a medical health care professional, I do know...more than you. I have seen patients refuse feeding tubes, dialysis, surgery etc because they realized that their 'quality of life' would be so compromised that they didn't want to live. Life is more than game playing from a motel room, dearie.

-- Posted by BABE on Fri, Aug 15, 2008, at 11:09 PM

MeLange

I live well with my thoughts, thank you very much. I have decided to tell you a 'tender' story of mine.

When I was sixteen I dated a young man of twenty for a short time. When I met him he was in a cast on his left leg from a motorcycle accident. He was delightful boyfriend. But, as the months progressed, he became alarmed at the doctor's prognosis of his leg and being able to walk again without crutches.

One night he called on a Friday night and we had a date for Saturday night. He had been to the doctor and was not given good news. He said he was thinking about killing himself. We talked for hours with me saying not to think such thoughts.

Later that night he put a pistol to his head and killed himself.

I went to the funeral with his family. His mother threw herself on his crypt sobbing. But she later took me aside and told me that it was not my fault as he made that decision on his own.

-- Posted by BABE on Sat, Aug 16, 2008, at 3:05 AM

Babe, I don't blame the guy who committed suicide. If I thought I would have to live my entire life with such a radical Republican as you, I would do the same as he.

-- Posted by iago1 on Sat, Aug 16, 2008, at 6:55 AM


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