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Speak Out 7/6/08

Sunday, July 6, 2008

Longer days

JACKSON SCHOOLS are adding 20 to 30 minutes to each school day for grad prep and character training. When I was in school, it was the counselor's place to prepare each student for graduation. As far as character training, the school district needs to leave that to the parents of the students. It is my responsibility to raise my son as I see fit. I rely on the schools to teach grammar, math and science, but the character of my child should come from me. This is crossing the line. If the district wants to make the days longer, look into the lunch program. Twenty minutes is not enough time for children to eat their lunch.

Life in the 1950s

AFTER A sugar-coated description of American life in the 1950s, a Speak Out comment asked what was wrong with that way of life. I'll tell you in part. It was based on racism, sexism, agism, anti-religious bias, extreme psychological repression and mind-numbing conformity.

Taking responsibility

I SO admire the parents of the teen who backed into Wib's in Jackson. When they saw the damage on his truck, his parents questioned him until he admitted what happened. A lot of parents would have hushed it up, since no one knew who did it. But these wise parents took him to Wib's owners where he admitted what he had done. If more parents were like them, we wouldn't have all the problems with vandalism by our youths.

Jet trainers, not jets

THE STORY on your front page called the T-34s "jets" a few times. T-34s are not jet driven. They are props. It is correct that they were jet trainers, but you can see from the front view they are not jets. The T-34 is well-known by anybody who served.

Jackson's sod

WHY IN the middle of summer did Jackson workers lay sod in the median of East Main Street? Now the city has to pay a worker to water the sod. The city could have waited until this fall to put the sod down. There are also a great many dead limbs still in the city park that have been overlooked for months. I hope this will be addressed before the next ice storm.

Gender imbalance

CHINA'S ONE-CHILD policy seems to have backfired. China has what is called the "largest gender imbalance in the world." According to The New Republic, China has "37 million more men than women and almost 20 percent more newborn boys than girls nationwide." This is resulting in excessively high levels of testosterone in many young Chinese men and leading to the formation of violent forms of activity so as to try to vent their frustration. The thing I liked most about the article in The New Republic is the title: "No Country for Young Men."

Saving gasoline

SPEED LIMITS need to be lowered. I drove to St. Louis and drove 60 mph the entire way. My fuel mileage went up by 2 mpg. It amazed me that people drive as fast as they do.

Vote on drilling

IN THIS great country, don't we believe in voting to hear the voice of the people? We vote to elect government officials, and they are supposed to be our voices and vote on issues that concern us. It seems that all the government officials want to do is fight and bicker. I have a possibly simple solution: have the American people vote on whether or not we should drill in the United States. It would save some time for all of us.

Changing their tune

A FUNNY thing happened over the last week. All the people who complain about gasoline prices being too high, wages being too low and the economy going downhill were suddenly changing their stories when the thought of a casino came up. It must be nice to have that kind of money.

This is so important

ISN'T IT newsworthy for something to be printed like this? It's John 3:16: "For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son that whosoever believeth in him shall not perish but have everlasting life in heaven." This is so important. People need to start believing and getting their rears in gear. They need to confess and repent. People are dying and going to hell.

Thanks, teachers

I WANT to say a huge thank you to the teachers at Orchard and South Elementary schools in Jackson for being involved in summer school. My children had a great time.

Out-of-state tags

I WOULD like to see the police in Cape Girardeau crack down on people that live here but continue to get Illinois plates for their cars. You see it all over town. We who live in Missouri have to pay taxes on our autos, but these people from Illinois have an address in Illinois and still get their license plates there.

Sweep the streets

THIS MESSAGE is directed to the city council in Cape Girardeau. I don't know if they've driven some of the main streets like Lexington Avenue in Cape Girardeau lately. The streets are filthy, and it looks like they haven't seen a street sweeper in several months. It's embarrassing for out-of-town people to come in and see our city as filthy as it is.

Dutchtown buyouts

THIS IS about the person that called in saying a buyout in Dutchtown sounds good. Seventy-five percent may sound good, but if you owe 80 or 90 percent on your property, it doesn't sound so good. The people who live in and around Dutchtown and in the flood zone are all taxpayers too. Without a doubt our taxes helped build the floodwall in Cape Girardeau and for the pumps that keep the water pumped out of downtown. We're all taxpayers too.

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"People are dying and going to hell."

Dear God, please protect me from your followers.

Attitudes like this are what drove me and my family away from organized religion, which is guilt-driven.

-- Posted by RocketSurgeon on Sun, Jul 6, 2008, at 7:37 AM

Melange: never been to a soak hop. he-he :) 6 more days to go.

-- Posted by Aggiefan/Twiggy on Sun, Jul 6, 2008, at 7:40 AM

Melange: never been to a soak hop. he-he :) 6 more days to go.

-- Posted by Aggiefan/Twiggy on Sun, Jul 6, 2008, at 7:40 AM

Oops x2

-- Posted by Aggiefan/Twiggy on Sun, Jul 6, 2008, at 7:41 AM

I heard on the radio that Indiana has actually seen a DECREASE in wrecks on it's interstate highways since they RAISED their speed limit by 5 mph. They found that people are not driving any faster than they used to, but rather the "slow-pokes" who used to obey the law and drive the speed limit were now more closely following the flow of traffic....at the new speed limit! THE SAFEST SITUATION ON THE HIGHWAY IS FOR ALL TRAFFIC TO BE TRAVELING AT THE SAME SPEED!!! Numerous studies have shown that to be true, as there are fewer interactions with other motorists (lane changes, passing, etc.) and therefore less opportunity to crash into them. If you choose to save a few pennies (on a 200 mile trip, 20 mpg burns 10 gallons, 22 mpg burns 9 gallons...you saved all of $3.79) by traveling 60 mph in a 70 mph zone while other people are flying past you at 70-80 mph, you had better be driving with one eye on the rearview because you are placing your life at risk. Many company's have speed limiters on their semi trucks and govern them down to 60-65 mph to save fuel, and I in my own truck also try to keep my foot out of it as much as possible, but keep to within 5 mph of the speed limit so as not to create more of a road hazard than necessary. We are by far MUCH larger...our trucks are 5-6 TIMES as heavy as the largest SUV's on the road WHEN WE ARE EMPTY, and when loaded, that difference jumps to 16 times the weight. A car, pick-up, or SUV slamming into the rear of our trucks will barely be noticed (if we realize it at all!) You in your small car, however, do not have that luxury. Yes, it's all well and good that you want to try to save pennies by slowing down...and I am glad you want to try to reduce your costs and reduce your personal consumption of oil and gas, but just know that driving slow has it's risks too...and in a car, those risks far outweigh any reward you might be seeking. I see too many people in their cars not paying attention to what they are doing (reading the paper, eating breakfast, talking on the cell phone, playing with the radio, drinking beer, yelling at kids in the back seat, etc.) to EVER drive that much slower than the flow of traffic unless I'm protected by 40+ feet of trailer and 27,500 to 80,000 pounds.

-- Posted by dixietrucker on Sun, Jul 6, 2008, at 7:56 AM

oh yeah....and the 1950's and 60's had cooler cars and trucks....not these cookie-cutter POS's that all look alike and fall apart in a couple years.

....and also I live in Illinois, but when I go out, I head to Cape. I spent 7 or 8 years in Carbondale and got Carbondale'd out...so when you see my Illinois tags, just be glad that I am spending my money in your town instead of going elsewhere....and if that p!$$e$ you off, you need to start worrying about your own problems and less about what other people are doing.

-- Posted by dixietrucker on Sun, Jul 6, 2008, at 8:01 AM

good morning everyone

-- Posted by ..Rick on Sun, Jul 6, 2008, at 8:02 AM

We will be on line down there in this forum if possible. I don't see why we couldn't but you never know. Twiggy will be here til about the end of Aug., and we will be back hopefully every other month or so. Just not sure how long at a time yet. Also she wants to be here for the new baby when he arrives. We have some email addresses so we will stay in touch and send you our new one when we get set up. Thanks for the well wishes, appreciate it.

-- Posted by Aggiefan/Twiggy on Sun, Jul 6, 2008, at 8:02 AM


they need to change the speed limit out in Ca so that everyone has to drive the same there. We see at least one wreck every time we go out there, and it's usually because a car doesn't want to get stuck behind a big truck because they are going to slow and we also can't switch over into the farthest lanes (3 and 4, so they get P O if we don't move over for them. Glad this is the last week we have to deal with that.

-- Posted by Aggiefan/Twiggy on Sun, Jul 6, 2008, at 8:06 AM

I don't do calif---ya. I've been there twice in my life, both times in a semi....first went in and out of LA, the second time went into the state in the north (donner pass, if I remember right) to deliver, then had the luxury of driving 55 mph all freakin' day to get to SoCal to pick up my next load to get the heck out of that state. I ain't been back since, and have no plans in ever going. Besides that, as soon as CARB starts requiring retrofits of that emissions cr@p, my truck won't be allowed in the state....it's an '01!

-- Posted by dixietrucker on Sun, Jul 6, 2008, at 8:13 AM

Unfortunatly we have to do Ca every week, Donner pass is great in the winter with all that snow, NOT. Anyway we won't be going there anymore either, can't say I will miss it either.

-- Posted by Aggiefan/Twiggy on Sun, Jul 6, 2008, at 8:16 AM


Try this on for size ;)

Study: Higher interstate speed limit proves safe for Indiana

WEST LAFAYETTE, Ind. - Researchers at Purdue University have determined that raising the speed limit from 65 to 70 on Interstate 65 in Indiana has not increased the probability of fatalities or severe injuries.

(more at http://news.uns.purdue.edu/UNS/hp/Manner... )

-- Posted by dixietrucker on Sun, Jul 6, 2008, at 8:21 AM

...and another one:

“In 1963, David Solomon reported that deviation from the mean speed of traffic in both the negative and positive direction contributed significantly to the occurrence of accidents. In fact, Solomon showed that vehicles traveling 10 to 15 mph slower than the mean speed of traffic were much more likely to be involved in accidents than vehicles traveling slightly above the mean speed. Solomon presented his results in the now famous ‘U-shaped’ curve, which relates variance from mean speed to involvement in accidents.

“Solomon’s study was conducted on two- and four-lane main rural highways. A similar analysis was conducted on the interstate that has higher operating speeds. The data for this study was collected by 20 state highway departments, including Ohio. The analysis showed the same ‘U-shaped’ curve for interstate highways and generally lower accident involvement rates, again confirming the safety benefits of the interstate system. The analysis also showed the variance in speeds on the interstate was between 5 to 7 mph, approximately half that of non-interstate facilities.

“The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration subsequently contracted with Indiana University to conduct a speed-safety study. This study confirmed the ‘U-shaped’ curve established by Solomon and the interstate study.”

(more at http://www.landlinemag.com/Special_Repor... )

-- Posted by dixietrucker on Sun, Jul 6, 2008, at 8:55 AM

Why do people get upset about the school teaching character? Private schools have been teaching character for years.

I could be wrong and I am sure someone will let me know it but I think some of these character classes consist of how to interview for a job, proper ways to greet people, resume writing, filling out job applications...

That sure looks like some kind of left-winged agenda to me.

-- Posted by SWBG on Sun, Jul 6, 2008, at 9:36 AM

i agree with SWBG...

-- Posted by ..Rick on Sun, Jul 6, 2008, at 10:10 AM

I don't post on here often; but normally read Aggiefan/Twiggy. You seem like good people, remind me of my parents who were team truck drivers for thirty years. Good luck with the new state and new job(s). Hopefully will still get to read your posts.

-- Posted by countrygirl71 on Sun, Jul 6, 2008, at 10:35 AM


Going to have to disagree with you on this one (someone pick Babe up off the floor cause I think she just fainted. LOL).

Statisticly, percentage wise there are less accidents on Germany's Autobahn then on US highways. And the Autobahn's speed limit is not a maximum but a minimum speed. Heavy inforcement of traffic violations is also key. Meaning you can be ticketed for running out of gas on the side of the road (you become a traffic hazzard to other drivers) because they see running out of gas as "preventable" therefor the drivers fault.

Now also statisticly, the percentage of fatalities per accident may be higher in Germany, but that shouldn't be the only reason to not see higher speed limits as over all safer then lower ones. My Mother felt safer on the Autobahn then she ever felt on US highways. But then again, when you know an accident will probably kill you rather then just hurt you. You might be more likely drive more attentively toward other drivers. Just my opinion though.

-- Posted by Pups on Sun, Jul 6, 2008, at 11:09 AM

well , the period "." is back ...

how would u like to be known as the period ??

-- Posted by ..Rick on Sun, Jul 6, 2008, at 11:15 AM

I agree with SWBG. With all the complaints about children's behavior and lack of parent intervention, why would anyone (including parents who want their children to behave and are great at parenting)discourage schools from trying to assist these/their kids. I can assure you, teachers do not relish this task (even those that see a real need), because they will be attacked for it by some (as you've seen today). It's needed by some kiddos and doesn't hurt any to learn about empathy, responsibility, honesty, respect, fairness, citizeship. BTW - For those of you who think private school is the way to go...I went to Catholic school and we got graded on it (Co-operation, Christian Courtesy).

Mrs.Cheney - the teacher.

Blast away - I'm just a teacher, so what do I know?!

-- Posted by DickCheney on Sun, Jul 6, 2008, at 11:21 AM

Vote on drilling..

Interesting. You want a national vote on it? You want the majority to decide. Keep in mind that this vote wouldn't be by 'electorial college', that every vote would be counted (theoreticly I know). You do realize that statisticly you would be leaving the outcome of said election in the hands of California, Florida, Texas, and New York?? That you are advocateing that these four states should decide the fate of drilling in the US?

I am almost certain that Texas would probably be on the side of drilling, New York a possible toss up, but California and Florida might go the way of not drilling. Will you accept that the 'tree hugging wackos' won? Probably not. Just my thoughts, no stats to back it up mind you.

-- Posted by Pups on Sun, Jul 6, 2008, at 11:26 AM

Out of State Tags:

How do you know where these people live? Secondly, please cite the statute that prohibits this practice. Thank you.

-- Posted by Ike on Sun, Jul 6, 2008, at 11:29 AM


who pist in ur Cheerios this morning ??

-- Posted by ..Rick on Sun, Jul 6, 2008, at 11:30 AM


-- Posted by DickCheney on Sun, Jul 6, 2008, at 11:31 AM

This is So Important:

It's your H E L L. You go there.

-- Posted by Ike on Sun, Jul 6, 2008, at 11:33 AM

Pups, don't forget Montana and North Dakota. Drill in ANWAR now, forget what those left-wing tree huggers say.

Texas is drilling 10 new holes everyday, makes my new job feel safe for a good while. No more truckin for me.

Thanks for the roses 71, we will be posting here when we get settled in Texas.

-- Posted by Aggiefan/Twiggy on Sun, Jul 6, 2008, at 11:35 AM


-- Posted by DickCheney on Sun, Jul 6, 2008, at 11:40 AM

Ok, who let that cross-dressing farmer out of his straight-jacket? Another PC Rambo, brave enough to call someone out over the internet but too chickensh*t to do it in person.

-- Posted by Aggiefan/Twiggy on Sun, Jul 6, 2008, at 11:41 AM


-- Posted by Ainamolagem on Sun, Jul 6, 2008, at 11:41 AM

farmer ..ya got me there for a couple hours

-- Posted by ..Rick on Sun, Jul 6, 2008, at 11:42 AM

...i'm thinking farmer is BABE incognito...

-- Posted by ..Rick on Sun, Jul 6, 2008, at 11:45 AM


-- Posted by DickCheney on Sun, Jul 6, 2008, at 11:46 AM


-- Posted by Ainamolagem on Sun, Jul 6, 2008, at 11:47 AM


My point wasn't what the "tree huggers say", but more of the fact that the populations of those four states statistically would decide the outcome of a national vote on drilling. And since most seem to be under the impression that those are the states (minus Texas maybe) that 'tree huggers' live. Do we really want to leave it up to them??

-- Posted by Pups on Sun, Jul 6, 2008, at 11:48 AM

Oh, sorry. Was side-tracked with the imbecile posting so loudly.

I agree.

-- Posted by Aggiefan/Twiggy on Sun, Jul 6, 2008, at 11:51 AM


-- Posted by DickCheney on Sun, Jul 6, 2008, at 11:51 AM

Aggie - thought it was a kinda fun side-track.

-- Posted by DickCheney on Sun, Jul 6, 2008, at 11:55 AM

I don't often hear that kind of language, esp. on a Sunday.

-- Posted by DickCheney on Sun, Jul 6, 2008, at 11:57 AM


-- Posted by Ainamolagem on Sun, Jul 6, 2008, at 12:00 PM


-- Posted by Ainamolagem on Sun, Jul 6, 2008, at 12:02 PM

Prudentdriver: not to take the side of a felow trucker but when I see a hill ahead of me I speed up, knowing the elevation will slow me down.

Weighing 80,000 lbs. going downhill gravity takes its course. I'm sure he didn't speed up becouse of you.

same thing happened to me in New Mexico, I went to pass a vehicle, right when I went passed his bumper he sped up. I got in behind him then he slowed down.

Its called asphalt leap-frog.

Now to call a trucker in as a drunk driver is a cowardly act. Why do that to someone who is trying to earn a living? Just shrug it off, and have a cold one on me later on.

-- Posted by Aggiefan/Twiggy on Sun, Jul 6, 2008, at 12:07 PM


-- Posted by Ainamolagem on Sun, Jul 6, 2008, at 12:08 PM


-- Posted by Ainamolagem on Sun, Jul 6, 2008, at 12:10 PM

What did the neurotic pig say to the farmer?

You take me for grunted.

-- Posted by Lord_love_a_duck! on Sun, Jul 6, 2008, at 12:13 PM


-- Posted by Ainamolagem on Sun, Jul 6, 2008, at 12:15 PM

Life in the 1950s MUST BE A COMMUNIST!

-- Posted by Ainamolagem on Sun, Jul 6, 2008, at 12:21 PM


Calm Down

-- Posted by DaveB on Sun, Jul 6, 2008, at 12:24 PM

Interesting how some people either get baned or leave in a huff vowing never to return only to return and pretend to be someone entirely different.

-- Posted by Alt Ctrl Del on Sun, Jul 6, 2008, at 12:27 PM

=== coughing == clearing throat === jokes == eh === let me think ===


does your train of thought have a cAbOOse?

figured how to SeT your laser pRinTer to stun, eh?

and your crybaby (fArMeR), whiny opinion would be ? === ?

-- Posted by Stirring_the_Pot on Sun, Jul 6, 2008, at 12:31 PM


-- Posted by Ainamolagem on Sun, Jul 6, 2008, at 12:36 PM

Well have fun, I have to go mow my yard.

-- Posted by Alt Ctrl Del on Sun, Jul 6, 2008, at 12:44 PM

Prudent:Fair assessment! I know crap like that happens,even when driving our truck, others trucks do the same to us. I do understand calling them in and don't blame you at all.

I have a theory on speeding, the speed limit is what ever you want it to be until you get caught. Those of you complaining, worry about your own driving unless you are a peace officer. If not, mind your own business. If I want to speed, I will. I don't need your permission to.

-- Posted by Aggiefan/Twiggy on Sun, Jul 6, 2008, at 1:17 PM


Glad to see the two of you are back. Aggie good luck with the new job, I know being around family will make it easier but it will still be a challenge.

As far as truck drivers go I have seen some that are inconsiderate butts and have no business behind the wheel but for the most part they are considerate and just trying to earn a living. Same as with regular drivers, most are fine but you always have the loose cannons at the wheel making it dangerous for everyone else. It isn't fair to judge all truck drivers by a few bad ones.

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Sun, Jul 6, 2008, at 1:18 PM

I agree that all drivers whether it be a truck driver or in an auto, can be jerks. I can say that early this morning when we were on our way home I was driving, and there was this car that kept going really slow in front of me and I would pass and then they would pass me and go really slow again. This was on the turnpike mind you 75 mph is the speed limit, I can only go 70 so I was maintaining the same speed all the time. It's very frustrating, but it happens alot, alot of times when that gets done to me whether it's a big truck or a car I usually slow down for a while and hope they get way ahead so I don't have to play their silly little game.


-- Posted by Aggiefan/Twiggy on Sun, Jul 6, 2008, at 1:58 PM


I live in Cape, However I have a home in Illinois as well. I figure I pay my Taxes and if I want to tag my auto's across the river(Either Side of it)I will.

-- Posted by Luvthatdirt on Sun, Jul 6, 2008, at 2:59 PM

Do you also pay taxes on your auto in MO? Even if you do have a home in IL, and get your license plates for IL, you should still have to pay taxes on your personal property here in MO as well.

-- Posted by Aggiefan/Twiggy on Sun, Jul 6, 2008, at 3:15 PM

Twiggy: Great to "see" you today! Miss your posts, & hope that when you do get settled in TX, you stay on-line with SO here. Can only imagine how much you'll be missed by family up here--remembering when my parents were in Germany for three years!

Tend to sort of agree with you, dixietrucker, about lowering speed limits. Don't know statistics, but my experiences during the years of 55 mph on interstates were that those obeying the limits versus those many who weren't, made for a more dangerous driving experience on the highways.

Just a little comment about truck drivers: MOST that I've encountered on trips to IL, KY and TN as well as around this state have appeared to be conscientious, courteous, safe drivers. BTW: Like Aggie/Twiggy, I do not/will not play "leap frog." Anyone who speeds up when I try to pass, I just fall back behind, and stay there...even once when someone (wasn't even a trucker!) slowed to 25 mph. My theory? If you won't play with them, they'll get bored and wait for the next "leap frogger" to show up.

-- Posted by gurusmom on Sun, Jul 6, 2008, at 3:33 PM


I will probably be more lost than my family here, at least they will have the rest of the family. All my family members live within a 40 to 50 mile area, so I will miss them something awful. I know it is going to be very hard for me to leave, and I am not looking forward to it at all.

-- Posted by Aggiefan/Twiggy on Sun, Jul 6, 2008, at 3:40 PM

The last time there was a 55 speed limit most everyone who drove much had a C.B. radio. That was quite the craze in the 70's.

C.W. McCall's "Convoy" song will hit the airwaves again and Burt Reynolds will make another Smokey and the Bandit. Of course the P.C. police will make him drive a Prius instead of a Trans Am.

I suppose now days people will invest in the better radar detectors, but the P.C. police will probably call you a terrorist and a carbon abuser for using them and will outlaw them too.

-- Posted by Thought Criminal on Sun, Jul 6, 2008, at 4:14 PM

Speed Limits,

When I was in school there a term called “Norms of Evasion” and the best I remember it this is when a law or principal is so widely ignored it becomes the “norm”. I remember the 70’s all too well. I traveled quite a bit on I55, I70, I435, I35 and a few others. Does anyone remember “convoys” and the boom in the CB radio sales? I saw very few people driving the speed limit during that time though I initially tried it for a while. I don’t believe it will be any easier to enforce the speed limit now than it was then and do not expect the rate of compliance to be any higher.

I don’t discount that a driver who crashes at 70 miles per hour is more likely to be seriously injured than one traveling at 55. I also accept that riding a motorcycle or scooter is more “dangerous” than driving a car, but have no wish to outlaw them. We would probably all be better off in an Infiniti M35, but I don’t want to see that as our “National Automobile”. Should we outlaw all older vehicles that may not meet today’s improved crash test rating?

If we are to reduce the speed limit out of consideration for fuel economy/saving the planet, then wouldn’t it make sense to allow someone driving a Prius or other Hybrid to drive 70 and make others drive at a speed set by the government based on their fuel mileage? Think how many more people would buy them. No I am not really serious; I just think the whole speed limit thing is stupid. Of course that is only my opinion subject to change by the more intelligent and environmentally, safety conscious individuals out there just waiting with studies clutched in their hands and righteous indignation in their hearts.


-- Posted by Red_Rhino on Sun, Jul 6, 2008, at 4:39 PM

prudentdriver -

Your screen name certainly is false advertising based upon your post. Back before I bought my truck, when I was governed at 65 mph, I caught up to a car in Tennessee (70 mph state) and when traffic was clear, I changed lanes to pass. That car began pacing me, right next to my drive tires (in my blind spot, no less) until we caught another slower car in the right lane...at which point this knucklehead gassed on it to get back in front of me. I caught him again a few miles later and got the same results. It took me the entire state of Tennessee on 24 (heading west) until I got to Nashville to FINALLY get past him. If I reported every driver who pulled bone-headed stunts like that as being drunk drivers, I'd be thrown in jail for filing false police reports.

Now, I've got a truck that will run. I'll give you the first one. The second time, fine...IF I'm in a good mood....but when I catch you the third time, I'm going to blow your f'ing doors off and get on down the road because I don't have time to deal with your BS games. I run down the road with my cruise control set, and barring any changes in elevation, the cruise doesn't budge from where I set it (that's verified by my GPS). However, if I see a hill approaching, I'll use the go pedal to get a run at it if I'm loaded, and on the back side of the hill, I'll turn on my jake....if it's interstate, with no sharp curves ahead, and traffic ahead of me will allow it, I do not ride my brakes down hills...that leads to excess heat, excess wear, and the possibility of a fire. Your car may be able to hold it's speed going up and down hills just fine...my truck can too when it's empty...however, put a trailer on the back of your car that weighs 3.75 times as much as your car and THEN let's see how you do going up and down some of these hills. My guess is that you'll find gravity works against you on BOTH SIDES...that trailer drags your speed down trying to go up one side of the hill, and it literally PUSHES you down the other side. If you want us to slow down to a speed which we can maintain over every hill we come across, you'd better be prepared for transportation times and costs to more than double. Time is money.

Me'Lange -

Decreasing the speed limit may reduce the severity of the crashes, but it increases the frequency, as a large number of people will drive at whatever speed they feel the speed limit SHOULD be set at, instead of the actual posted speed leading to a large speed differential between the speeders and the law-abiding. Increasing the speed limit reduces the frequency of crashes, since now the law-abiding are more closely matching the speed of the speeders....although the severity of the wrecks when they do occur increases. The question then becomes at what point is it no longer beneficial to further reduce the speed limit? For instance (and I'm just throwing some numbers out to illustrate my point), if there are 10 crashes per month with 50% of them being fatal at 75 mph, and by reducing the speed limit to 65 only 25% of the crashes would be severe enough to be fatal....but the number of wrecks will increase to 20, you would STILL have 5 fatal wrecks per month to clean up...but you'd have 10 extra wrecks to respond to as well.

-- Posted by dixietrucker on Sun, Jul 6, 2008, at 4:51 PM

Americans' Unhappy Birthday: "Too Much Wrong" is an excellent article in today's paper!

Not quite sure how anyone living knows for certain that anyone who has died has actually "gone to Hell"? ;-)

Very good "editing" this morning of your yesterday's comments, Luck_Has_It! And still, all your points were, in both comments, quite valid.

Very funny, Pups..."...someone pick Babe up off the floor cause I think she just fainted." My dad absolutely loved driving the Autobahn in Germany.

Rick, IMHO, the 'period" might be making a psychological statement...like a parent might say to a child, "I'm the adult, and that's the way it is--PERIOD!"

I remember convoys of truckers, Red, and CB Radio craze. My "handle" was Yama Mama, because I also rode a Yamaha motorcyle back then. Cute: different speed limits for different types of cars. Don't let the pols read that--in their wisdom, they might decide it's a good idea! LOL

Pretty obvious that "farmer" seemed to be begging the use of the exclamation point, for whatever unknown reason. Rather sad to be that bored, and/or so needy of attention...IMO.

-- Posted by gurusmom on Sun, Jul 6, 2008, at 5:14 PM


I still have my Browning SST somewhere downstairs, might need to dust it off. I rode a Triumph Bonneville T120RV.

-- Posted by Red_Rhino on Sun, Jul 6, 2008, at 5:28 PM


I'm not sure I've heard of Wolf Creek Pass, where is it?


-- Posted by Aggiefan/Twiggy on Sun, Jul 6, 2008, at 6:50 PM

I personally have had little trouble with truckers. I have no problem riding along side of them. Frankly it is the other people on the road that scare me more.

I have not been on since this morning but evidently this farmer got booted. Heck I did not even get a chance to be offended!

-- Posted by SWBG on Sun, Jul 6, 2008, at 6:58 PM

Chicago 7 , Cardinals 1

-- Posted by ..Rick on Sun, Jul 6, 2008, at 6:59 PM


That Farmer person was really rude and nasty, I figured since he or she hasn't made anymore remarks that someone said something. That all happened when I was gone, but I was pretty shocked to see all that bull.


-- Posted by Aggiefan/Twiggy on Sun, Jul 6, 2008, at 7:11 PM

...farmer had a little too much moonshine this morning..

-- Posted by ..Rick on Sun, Jul 6, 2008, at 7:12 PM

I guess I haven't been through there. I'm sure Aggie probably has been, he has been on the road alot longer than I have, if it's anything like Donners I'm sure it's very pretty.


-- Posted by Aggiefan/Twiggy on Sun, Jul 6, 2008, at 7:16 PM

I have no idea who farmer was or is, I'm not on here enough to know alot of people. I only know a few that I have actually met, who are very nice and enjoy their company a great deal.


-- Posted by Aggiefan/Twiggy on Sun, Jul 6, 2008, at 7:19 PM

Who me,

Sorry that junk has been posted several times and is about as ridiculous as can be. A bunch of farmers (who are also screaming for help from FEMA but MSM seems not to put it on) getting flooded and an entire metropolitan area getting washed away is two different things.

I bet if those jet planes on 911 had crashed in Harlem instead of the middle of Wall Street it sure would be a different story (no I am not calling you a racist).

-- Posted by SWBG on Sun, Jul 6, 2008, at 7:31 PM


YOU may have no problem riding next to a truck, but rest assured you are making that driver's job more difficult and stressful than it needs to be. By riding next to that truck, you are taking away the space cushion that a GOOD driver tries to maintain around his truck...and you are effectively removing an escape route that driver has if something happens in front of him...for instance, if traffic in his lane comes to a screeching halt, with you riding in the lane next to him his ONLY option is to hit the brakes and pray he can get stopped in time whereas if you were clear of the truck, he could just change lanes and keep on truckin'. Also, when someone is pacing the truck in the next lane, that truck cannot move over to give people in the breakdown lane the room he'd like to give them. Also, keep in mind that truck tires, when they blow, are like hand grenades going off. Unlike a car tire, which might be inflated to 35 psi, that truck tire is holding 100+ psi of pressure. You cannot always tell if or when they will blow, and it isn't just the retreads that let loose unexpectedly either. When they blow, they have enough force to shake the whole truck...even when loaded...and the shrapnel from that tire will tear up anything in it's path...mud flaps and their brackets, air lines, fenders, as well as you and your car in that lane right next to him or drafting off his ICC bumper.

Keep that in mind, and PLEASE give trucks the space they need out there to maneuver.

-- Posted by dixietrucker on Sun, Jul 6, 2008, at 8:26 PM

i always give truckers right of way because

i figure they're working and i'm not ...besides

all that , they are just too d.a.m.n. big to

mess with ..

i get out of their way and let them go about

their bizness ....

-- Posted by ..Rick on Sun, Jul 6, 2008, at 8:31 PM

Who Me?-

I enjoy working on my vehicles...this 100k miles between services on the new cars leaves me nothing (fun) to do when I'm home...

-- Posted by dixietrucker on Sun, Jul 6, 2008, at 8:32 PM

Just curious as to why people are opposed of a casino in Cape. Don't we deserve more money for schools and our road and bridge dept. we can have funds go to where they are needed. We could get more jobs here, maybe if you would go for this we could keep money locally. wouldn't that be better than you driving to st louis monthly and giving them your gambling money. yes we all gamble let's just keep it locally. again just curious as to why you don't want one in cape.

-- Posted by yellowrose on Sun, Jul 6, 2008, at 9:16 PM


Please let me clarify. I pass trucks or I let them pass me. I do not just ride on their side. My wife freaks when I pass one and that is what I was thinking of. I do not just ride by the side. I know that is intrusive to the truck driver.

-- Posted by SWBG on Sun, Jul 6, 2008, at 10:04 PM

Looks like I missed all the fun with "farmer" today. Oh well.

Had a great weekend at the lake, burned up tons of fossil fuels all the while contributing to global whining.

A 1500cc Jet ski sure is fun. Kinda like my sport bike except my "streets" were water. **** good time.

-- Posted by Instructor_aka____________ on Sun, Jul 6, 2008, at 10:37 PM

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