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Speak Out 6/27/08

Friday, June 27, 2008

The ethanol ruse

ETHANOL IS environmentally worse than gasoline. When you buy gasoline, you are not buying volume. You are buying miles traveled. Ethanol is only two-thirds as energy-rich as gasoline, so a gallon of ethanol equals two-thirds a gallon of gasoline. A gallon of E85 is equivalent to about three-fourths gallon of gasoline. Anyone who only loses 1 mpg must only be getting about 8 to 10 mpg with gas and is part of our energy problem. To be economically worthwhile, a gallon of ethanol would have to cost less than $3. Until that difference develops, you are being hoodwinked if you buy E85 -- plus you are adding to our environmental problems, not subtracting from them. One 25-gallon fill-up of ethanol uses enough corn to feed a person for a full year. Do you care?

Proper lane usage

DRIVERS, PLEASE remember that the center turn lanes are not a part of the regular driving lanes. I have witnessed three drivers over the past week driving half in the turn lane and half in the driving lane down Independence Street. Either learn how to drive properly or lock your car and give the keys to someone who can.

Blocking the view

THERE SHOULD be a law against political signs close to intersections. There is one on North Mount Auburn Road and Keystone Drove that is blocking the view. If I am involved in an accident because of one of these signs, I will sue the politician, political party and whoever put up the signs.

Sharing her story

THANK YOU, Joe Sullivan, for sharing the story of your mother. My deep condolences go out to you at this time.

Cape is lucky

I'D SURE like to know who the people are who are so rich they can go gambling. Can't people see that this is a form of corruption? It's addictive, and it's going to cause problems. We're so fortunate that Cape Girardeau missed out on the casino.

Homeless animals

AT ONE time, I was feeding five or six strays, three raccoons and four of my own cats and one dog. They come on the porch and ate cat food. They didn't bother each other. My pets are always spayed and neutered. I enjoy the homeless animals.

Summer homework

I AM questioning the reason behind the English classes at Central High School, which has a reading and writing assignment due on the first day of school. My child has to read two books and do a lengthy written assignment. Is it legal for public schools to give homework over the summer and have it due on the first day of school?

Dangerous intersection

I TAKE my children to Central High School every morning. I am concerned about the right-turn lane off South Kingshighway onto South Mount Auburn Road being so short and narrow. Many times there are at least eight cars pulled on the shoulder of the road waiting to turn right. The speed limit in that area is 55 mph, which makes it a dangerous situation. If the highway department would improve this area like the intersection at Kingshighway and Highway 74 and at Kingshighway at Cape Rock Drive, it would be much safer for the entire community.

What Washington wrote

GEORGE WASHINGTON, writing in an Oct. 28, 1789, letter, stated, "I am persuaded you will permit me to observe that the path of true piety is so plain as to require but little political direction. To this consideration we ought to ascribe the absence of any regulation respecting religion from the Magna Carta of our country. To the guidance of the ministers of the Gospel, this important object is perhaps more properly committed."

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good morning folks

-- Posted by ..Rick on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 6:37 AM

Good Morning everyone

Sorry just a funny thought struck me about the ethanol comment above. How would that affect those that don't eat corn????

-- Posted by NickeyB63780 on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 7:25 AM

Proper lane usage

I feel the same way about people that park stupid at the mall and wal-mart and just about anywhere. Oh and those that buy big cars and trucks that can't see over the steering wheel. I have an idea why don't you open a driving school with your superior abilities and teach us all how its done!!!!

-- Posted by NickeyB63780 on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 7:37 AM


This is a letter to the editor and I can't comment there so here goes

The popular vote doesn't mean jack batty. Its all about delegates determining who wins and after that is the electoral vote. Who was it that won the presidential popular vote but still lost the election all those years ago. Florida scandal anyone? Movie named recount?

-- Posted by NickeyB63780 on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 7:40 AM


I think they took them back and got their money back and are saving the money for the water park (j/k)

-- Posted by NickeyB63780 on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 7:41 AM

Ah. Political signs. Love them. Love the new views we get from the decorations along the roadway. Especially those at intersections that block the view.

Nickey, must you carry on so? A statement is made about driving in turn lanes and you turn it into a tirad about parking and buying big vehicles. And you suggest they have a problem? Chill out girl before you end up with high blood pressure or something else. This is just MY opinion of YOUR opinion.

-- Posted by KingsKid on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 8:01 AM


It was a JOKE! ya know HA HA funny?? Good gosh I mean just about everyday there is a comment about other people telling other people how to drive. So I figured what the heck make a joke about it. I see now I stay on topic get my arse jumped go off topic get my arse jumped too. You may need to check into those blood pressure lowering techniques yourself or better yet go buy a sense of humor!

-- Posted by NickeyB63780 on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 8:06 AM


I have no doubt your concerns are correct. The city of cape seems all of a sudden interested in new business and no so much caring about the older cornerstones of the community. Funny those older ones are still around and the new ones fizzle out pretty quick sometimes. You would think they would realize this by now.

-- Posted by NickeyB63780 on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 8:08 AM

Oh, you girl are SO FUNNY. Pehaps it is the past few days of reading your posts that I didn't realize that somewhere within those postings was jokes.

-- Posted by KingsKid on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 8:09 AM

Wait...Didn't someone post something about not feeling sorry for those people? That they knew their businesses were in a flood zone when they purchased them? If it's "who cares" about flood victims in their residential homes, then why give two hoots about the businesses? Just wondering, since that seemed to be the topic of discussion about the folks in Dutchtown.

-- Posted by """""""""""" on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 8:17 AM

The point of the post today is I cannot control how people park, I cannot control what type of vehicle people buy so therefore no one nor I can control how people drive so that person should open a school and teach how they think everyone should drive.

As far as humor. I do believe I said this yesterday you cannot post facial expression and inflections on here. I am so sorry I can't do that maybe you should talk to the web master or you can do like other people do. You know what my avatar looks like you don't want to read my comment scroll past it others do so why should you be so different.

So much for waking up in a good mood this morning just to get my a** jumped first thing when I try and crack a joke and start a friday off good

-- Posted by NickeyB63780 on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 8:17 AM

Speaking of political signs, I wished Obama would go on and pick a running mate. I'd like to get my yard sign out.

-- Posted by """""""""""" on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 8:19 AM

Summer homework-

If you didn't want Summer homework, then why did your child go to summer school?

Two books? If he or she is in high school and plans to go to college, they better start preparing. Most of my English classes called for 8-10 sources minimum.

-- Posted by """""""""""" on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 8:22 AM

LOL Melange the bottom one of yours is the top one of theirs! Man they got that really screwed up!

Apparently I need the common sense thing so I will definatly keep that in mine (side note sarcasm just so no one get offended!)

-- Posted by NickeyB63780 on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 8:24 AM

What Washington wrote-

McCain already abolished Habeas Corpus and the Magna Carta.

-- Posted by """""""""""" on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 8:25 AM

geez KingsKid...who pist in ur Cheerios

this morning ...

-- Posted by ..Rick on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 8:40 AM

Summer Homework

I could be wrong, but I think the original comment was not about summer school, but about assignments due when school starts in the fall (or actually later in the summer.) I didn't mind the reading requirements, but did not care for some of the other assignments. Most employers do not require that employees work while on vacation, do they? Both of my kids had extensive assignments required every summer. By extensive, I mean 10-page papers in at least 2 subjects. I think we should let kids be kids for at least a little while.

-- Posted by motrans on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 8:44 AM

My teenage son has been attending summer school in the Jackson School district; and although he has had some homework during its duration; he wasn't given any assignments due for the first day of the school year. In my opinion that is a little much. College however is totally different; so maybe the extra work is to prepare them for what's ahead.

-- Posted by countrygirl71 on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 8:52 AM

Cape is lucky

Its not about being rich its about people that want to go have fun and not drive all that far. Whether or not they have the money is no one's business but their own. Doesn't bother me either way if Cape gets one it gets one if it doesn't it doesn't I like the St Charles Casino and Metropolis anyway.

-- Posted by NickeyB63780 on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 9:11 AM

Morning all

As far as homework last year my daughter was informed by the English teacher that their first assignment of the year would be to write an essay over their summer and she wanted to see the rough draft when they returned to school. Personally I think the more the kids do during the summer the better. We do not drop off making the smaller ones read at night before bed just because it is summer so why should the high school kids be any different. Some people complain their kids aren't getting an education and then when a teacher does try to keep them involved with school the parents complain they are being to hard on them. Make up your mind folks.


Not sure where the generators are that were bought but I am sure they had them stored somewhere and this all happened faster than what they could get to them, get them hooked up and going. Would be nice if they kind of planned ahead for such things though.

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 9:16 AM


Don't get me wrong. I was completely against the extended school day and will remove my kids from Cape Public Schools if they decide to go year around. I agree, I think the demand upon our kids are too high, yet yield little results. The System seemed to work fine 25 years ago.

It would be interesting to know if this was a voluntary summer school or manditory one though. It would put things in a better perspective.

-- Posted by """""""""""" on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 9:19 AM


I just feel bad for complaining that my 4th soon to be 5th grader didn't have ANY homework last year at all!. Granted she's in special classes but still her 3rd grade year she had some everyday.

-- Posted by NickeyB63780 on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 9:20 AM


Bethany just finished 4th and she had homework almost every night on top of the reading assignments to finish. We make her read all summer as well because she struggles with it and afraid she will fall behind if given the chance. Scott just finished 2nd and he had homework most nights but mainly because he wouldn't do it at school. I think the new doc is actually getting us somewhere with him though.

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 9:25 AM


As far as year around school. My cousins kids attend on in the St Louis area and they love it. The say it is actually better and more breraks for the kids than the way our school year goes. Personally I have never dealt with it so I do not know.


kids can have homework during the summer and still be kids. My son goes to Sylvan two days a week as well as what we have him do at home. he still plays ball, does karate, swims everyday and is spending a load of times with friends. Even during the school year all the kids have sports, clubs, parties and everything else going on to unwind. That is MO anyway. But I am often told I am to hard on the kids.

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 9:30 AM

If I had to go year round, I would have dropped out! LOL!

Hey Teacher! Leave those kids alone! (80s song lyrics)LOL!

-- Posted by """""""""""" on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 9:45 AM


Lol......I know I hated school with a passion mainly because i had to get up at 6 but it still did me some good to get an education.

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 9:48 AM


Little Tony did have homework everyday and he just finished the 1st grade so 2nd shouldn't be too much different as far as amount of homework. I just hope they don't try to pile too much on Susie in the 5th since they didn't give her any last year but then again it could be good for her and not hold her back so much

-- Posted by NickeyB63780 on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 9:55 AM


If I remember right, and it has been a few years since Paige was in 5th.........she actually had less homework in that grade because they did a lot more of it during school. Paige will be the one slammed with it this year I am afraid.

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 9:59 AM

Proper lane usage? People in the Cape area need to do more than learn proper lane usage. A yellow light used to mean slow down and prepare to stop. Now it means floor it and run that red light. I would rather drive in St. Louis traffic (which I do a lot) where, even though they drive faster, at least they rarely run red lights and know how to use their signals correctly. If you're in that big of a hurry, leave sooner!

-- Posted by gamermom on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 9:59 AM

IMHO.. I learned more than I ever thought possible during the school year without having to do homework during the summer. I also didn't forget most of it over the summer. If children need extra help to remember what they learned then send them to summer school, as I had to do with one of mine. But let me decide if summer homework is necessary or not, not the teachers.

-- Posted by all_i_hear_is_blah_blah on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 10:03 AM

Log-in test.

Bad morning to all!

And to make things worst, it's also Friday. Just think, most of you poor souls will have to spend the whole day contemplating the horrors of sharing an entire weekend with, say, the children, grandchildren, in-laws and their children and, Gawd help us all, the SPOUSE!! And if it rains, you'll be couped up inside with 'em all...might have to even BBQ in the garage!

We're all doomed! You will be begging for Monday morning to come, just for the chance to make that glorious escape back to work...and freedom!!

Disclaimer: This is only my inconclusive opinion, not as yet substantiated by a sufficient intake of coffee.

-- Posted by Herr_Hauptmann_DES on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 10:04 AM

Considering how p1ss poor our education system is, the fact that some teachers are challenging kids to do better should be applauded. Our kids are dumbed down by flouridated water, tainted vaccines and an education system that is designed to make them just smart enough to work a cash register and to never question authority. Just because you drank the Kool Aid(tm) doesn't mean you have to force feed it to your offspring.

-- Posted by MoxFulder on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 10:06 AM


You crack me up and bring some humor on a dreary day. Unfortunatly I am one of those that LIKE spending time with the kids, even have 11 of my sons friends coming around tomorrow for a swimming party ( if it doesn't rain ). See all I never said I was normal.........lol

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 10:07 AM

I am not rich, by any means. But do enjoy going to the boat. As a matter of fact, just got back about 2:30 this morning from St. Louis. Contrary to what the caller said, I don't feel corrupted at all. =)

-- Posted by all_i_hear_is_blah_blah on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 10:09 AM

Speaking of lunch can we get a final headcount please?

-- Posted by NickeyB63780 on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 10:09 AM

As an old codger with grown children I probably shouldn't weigh in on the subject of schools, but here goes. Parents take it easy on yourself, you put too much pressure on yourself and place demands on your children to be excellent. Too much pressure on children could lead to problems. Children end up feeling that they can never satisfy their parents. Love them and educate them but allow the schools to train them.

-- Posted by BCStoned on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 10:10 AM

Well I think that reading during the summer is good. I know a lot of kids(and adults) that read in their spare time such as summer anyway. So why not take advantage of something that is already beind done? Plus who can actually oppose to kids learning and giving them an extra edge? The summer is three months long, they can do that homework in 1-2 weeks tops if they were trying. Then they would be done and have the rest of the summer to do whatever.

I got to thinking about the generator comments and didn't they get the problem fixed within about 2 hours? Perhaps it would have been more work to bring a generator down and hook it up. I don't know but it's just a thought. Try not to tear it to shreds.

-- Posted by lovemyfamily on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 10:10 AM


I will be there......Need some adult conversation for a few hours


I love going to the boat. Nope we aren't rich just the average people but we set aside a certain amount of money, leave all cards and checkbooks in the hotel and go have fun, when the money is gone we leave and a few times we came out ahead. If you do it responsibly why would should you feel corrupted.IMO

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 10:12 AM


I love spending time with my kids too (and I am sufficiently caffeinated). So if it rains this weekend, I see lots of Rock Band in my future! whoohoo!

-- Posted by gamermom on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 10:12 AM


My point exactly. It's a matter of responsiblity and knowing what you can afford to spend. The fact that it is so fun is just an added bonus.

-- Posted by all_i_hear_is_blah_blah on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 10:15 AM


Even if you are an old codger.......don't know never met ya......what you say is a valid point. I have seen many parents that push their kids to be perfect and the stress it puts on the kids is tremendous. I am hard on my kids but I only expect them to do their best. If the best they can do is a C then I am happy for them but if they are getting C and I know they are capable of more then yes i will push them. Every parent just needs to step back and see their child for who they are and go from there and never compare your child to another or a sibling because of grades or school performance. I know with three none of them are alike at all. Anyway that is just MO not that it means a lot.

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 10:17 AM


Going to try and be there.

As far as school work over the summer. Well as a self proclaimed school nerd, I don't see a problem with it. Sometimes the statement "kids need to be kids" is as over used as "For the love of God, won't anyone think of the children". Just my have no kids opinion.

-- Posted by Pups on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 10:19 AM


A few years ago we all went to metropolis and my brother in law went for the first time. We told him to leave his cards behind and only take a set amount BUT he was 21 and thought he knew it all. ended up loosing his entire paycheck that week, but between eating bologna sandwhiches for a week and listening to his wife yell at him he has never made that mistake again and is usually the first to ask if we all left our card behind! But you are right it is fun and I can see how people could get addicted to it.

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 10:20 AM


Yeah, even on a dreary day, it's fun to come up with something goofy now and then...like pokin' & proddin' the Mule awake before she's ready...makes for a good chase around the barn!

Speaking of brightening the day, standby for a stink nuke a bit later. I'm toying around with potentially committing some cyber suicide just for grins, and will provide a public service announcement soon. Gotta work fast though, 'cause Mule expects me to be off the plantation and heading to Cape this afternoon. She revels in restricting the amount of fun that I should be allowed to have!

-- Posted by Herr_Hauptmann_DES on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 10:22 AM


If you asked a kids opinion about schoolwork then i am pretty sure it would be there should be no homework at all. My oldest loves school but hates having to bring anything home as she says that is "her" time.

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 10:22 AM

I personally LOVE the penny slots. You can put ten bucks in and sit for hours!!!!

-- Posted by lovemyfamily on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 10:23 AM


Will watch for the post.

Don't be to hard on her all of us wives tend to be that ay. Just ask my hubby.

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 10:24 AM


LOL I did those for a long time because i didn't want to loose all my money. Finally moved to the nickle ones though.

Is your avatar of one of your babies?

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 10:25 AM

Hey, James, don't send your child to school to be trained. Training is something you do to a dog when he noses through your trash. Education has evolved to include a focus on critical and creative thinking. The test funders, still dragging their feet through the muck of standardized education, want U.S. schools to give them workers, not thinkers. You want proof? It's called home-schooling.

-- Posted by hydrangea on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 10:27 AM

My oldest daughter scored horribly on the standardized tests, yet has more common sense than her younger sister who consistenly scores in the 99th percentile. I don't even remember what was on those tests, but would like to see them add some common life knowledge questions

-- Posted by all_i_hear_is_blah_blah on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 10:33 AM

My sister is the smartes person when it comes to anything found in a book but when it comes to matters of life she is as dumb as a box of rocks so i know what you are saying there.

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 10:35 AM

After school was out for the summer, Mom would take me to the public library on a weekly basis and let me choose whatever I wanted to read for the week and I loved it! Of course, we didn't have computers, video games, and cell phones back then. Reading was fun. I also was subscribed to the Weekly Reader...Remember those? Oh what fun it was to lay back and read those stories and work the puzzles...Although I agree with advancement, this is one scenario where technology and society has hurt us. Now they are just cherished memories.

-- Posted by Topo_Gigio on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 10:37 AM


Yes that is one of my babies....Clover is a maltese and about eleven weeks old. He is so cute!!!!! Gets dirty all the time though. Gets two baths a week and hates it.

-- Posted by lovemyfamily on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 10:38 AM

semoangel and all_i_hear_is_blah

I am one of those people. I am very book smart. Breezed through school and most of college. Could tell you useless facts about whatever but common sense I lack. And it's not that I don't try. I mean some things I get. Fishing, hunting, cars but street smarts.....nope. I guess some of us have one or the other.

-- Posted by lovemyfamily on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 10:43 AM


being white I can imagine. We have a cocker spaniel that is mainly white and it is rough keeping her clean although she loves the water she hates a bath. All the other animals are black so at least it isnt as obvious with them when they are dirty.

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 10:44 AM


I agree with you. I send my kids to school to get an education but that doesn't mean they stop learning the second they walk in the door. It isn't even just with the school work parents need to educate the kids on manners and such at home so the teachers can actually teach the lesson instead of having to start all over with the manners. We do homework together here every night after 20 years I will be the first to admit I needed a refresher course in Algebra to help the oldest but we made it.

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 10:48 AM


I too breezed through high school, college was harder but I learned what "street smarts" are from being the youngest and watching my siblings. You know when they mess up you learn real quick what not to do!

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 10:50 AM


well i am the oldest of four and one stepsister so i take responsibility for all of them. i have def learned some things from their mistakes as i hope they have from mine.

my puppy loves the water too but hates the bath. you would think i was drowning him the way he yaps and barks. like this morning i let him out to potty and the grass was so wet he came back filthy!!!!! and didn't even care. oh well, someone will be getting a bath tomorrow!!!!! that is three in ONE WEEK!!!! oh well you have to bathe kids more than that so i guess i'm lucky

-- Posted by lovemyfamily on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 10:54 AM


definitly. My son gets two baths a day whether he likes it or not and trust me he is still at the stage where he doesn't! He thinks because he goes swimming in the pool he is clean.


My kids all go to summer school and the youngest is the only one that had to. the oldest will be a sophmore this year and we paid for her to go to Jackson for summer school to get extra credits so she can graduate early is she still wants to. As I said they still have time to be kids, still see friends and are on the go all the time.

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 11:03 AM


This is a public service announcement for the Peoples' Democratic Mob of the bog.

First, I must apologize for being remiss in coming up with a stink nuke, as promised quite some time ago. Therefore, this notice serves as a HEADS-UP for the bog mob to be prepared to provide suggestions, comments, warnings, general threats, etc, for a draft proposal to the Webmeister I'd previously eluded to. I wish to thank G-Mom for her benevolent prodding, if not nagging, to produce said draft, not to mention suggesting I reinforce my fallout bunker in anticipation of the inevitable. Gee, thanks, Mom! Oh, and since I too was recently nuked by C-Babe's indiscretions, along with countless other Vets & active duty military personnel, I have opted out of sharing my new and improved bunker...I'll just dive into it all by myself!

Keep in mind, boys & girls, that the pending draft proposal is just that...an unpolished DRAFT, and time is of the essence for your input. I've purposely chosen this a.m. as the optimal period to submit it for your perusal, as I expect the Webmeister and other suits at the paper will soon be partaking of their extended TGIF cocktail lunches and, therefore, you will have sufficient time to submit your suggestions, or threats and damnation, before they detect what I'm up to. So please work fast, as I intend to make the necessary revisions and submit the proposal to the Webmeister via e-mail before mid afternoon.

Never fear (should I be so naive to hope), the staff at the paper doesn't monitor the SO blog anyway, so you should have plenty of time to make corrective suggestions, additions, deletions, etc. Just please post them before, say, about 1p.m.ish, so I may do the revisions and transmit the proposal.

That'll be all for now. Stand by.

-- Posted by Herr_Hauptmann_DES on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 11:09 AM

hydranga: "Hey, James, don't send your child to school to be trained. Training is something you do to a dog when he noses through your trash. Education has evolved to include a focus on critical and creative thinking. The test funders, still dragging their feet through the muck of standardized education, want U.S. schools to give them workers, not thinkers. You want proof? It's called home-schooling."

But isn't training what they receive in public school? Isn't training what the politicians are calling for with their demands on testing? I'm Very much in favor of home schooling.

Education: I was thinking of a pretty much single mom who graduated with a doctorate from UCLA. Her children were educated by her example more that they were by public education. Of her three children, One is now an engineer with a major software/hardware company and lives in a mansion in Portland, Ore, another was in on the startup of Amazon books, another had a show on NPR at one time but is now in the import/export business. These children were raised by an education provided by example. I could offer more examples, if needed.

-- Posted by BCStoned on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 11:09 AM

You are right MoxFulder. The goal of the public school education system is not to educate "too much", but just enough for the masses to be able to work at repetitive jobs where they don't have to think "too much." If, God forbid, the sheep think too much, they might really question why they are continually being s.c.r.e.w.e.d. and revolt against the government "shepards."

When they do have to think, it really isn't so much "their" thoughts or ideas, but what they have been programmed to think. This programming comes in the guise of electronic "experts" in T.V., videos, music, computer games, etc. Why should a T.V. news reader on FOX or CNN, or a Hollywood actor have any more credibility than your local plumber or mailman?

Even the weather person "experts" tell the sheep what to do. You know, "it's going to be cold today so make sure those kids of yours are bundled up on their way to school." "It's going to be hot today so drink plenty of water." "It's going to rain, so have your umbrella handy." I believe this sort of constant inane banter dumbs people down even more.

Oh well, I know my posts are passed over for the most part because they are long and excede peoples attention span and I post mostly bleak thoughts, but for those of you reading this, I think you probably agree that we should expect more for all of the education dollars they force us to pay. Usually when you pay more for something you get better quality, but it's not the case concerning education.

I wish things were different and they could be if people just started to use what their natural instincts and consciences tell them. And fluoride does dumb people down more. The Nazi's found that out a long time ago, and the American Nazi's followed their lead. Read up on it if you don't believe me. ( By the way, I am not blaming the teachers per se. Most of them were "educated" in this same lousey system)

-- Posted by Thought Criminal on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 11:13 AM

YAY Melange!!!!

I knew you could do it. If it starts getting to ucky in there I will throw my weight around (scary watch out now that's alot here lately) plus my hubby will be there and won't let no one start nothing (gotta put on a good show for the public j/k)

well I will see you all there!

-- Posted by NickeyB63780 on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 11:20 AM


I have three kids........All three of them are smart kids, all three of them have the same opportunities and all three of them are very differnt. As a parent I know it is my job and my responsibility to work with the teachers to find the areas my kids are weak in and if I fail to do so then I can not blame the school or the teachers when they do bad. I know it is not all teachers but even with us being involved we do deal with some who just don't seem to care and our school has a principle that if the child isn't a star then she has no time for them. To me no matter how much the parents are involved in cases like this those kids are gong to have it harder.

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 11:22 AM


Glad to hear it. It wouldn't be the same without everyone there......well at least for me. Nickey and I will both be your body guards if need be lol should be a funny sight.

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 11:24 AM

No Josiah they are open to all sorry bout that the invite was posted yesterday Lunch today is a Buffalo Wild Wings at 11 am Town Plaza. ALL ARE WELCOME TO ATTEND!!!!

-- Posted by NickeyB63780 on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 11:25 AM

LOL Just get a head count so someone know how big of a table we need so far I have at least 9 people down as going.

-- Posted by NickeyB63780 on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 11:25 AM


all are welcome

Today it is at buffalo Wild Wings so come on out and join the fun. We aren't as bad in public!!!!!!!!!!

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 11:26 AM

Well all heading to Cape see those who come at lunch.

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 11:27 AM

Sure enough semoangel I'm off balance so I would need someone behind me incase I weeble and wobble. (hopefully I won't fall down!)

-- Posted by NickeyB63780 on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 11:27 AM


Maybe I misread your last post, but I found it somewhat condescending. My children are all grown and gone, but I kind of figure what I did with my children within the law was my business and not that of some educator. My daughter is a very good and involved teacher, so I have nothing against teachers, but I don't think it is their place to tell parents how to raise their children. Maybe I misread or misunderstood and if so please accept my apology.

-- Posted by Red_Rhino on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 11:28 AM

Yes Ma'am Melange

-- Posted by NickeyB63780 on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 11:30 AM

OK. Here's my draft proposal, people. Again, this is just a rough draft, so please make your suggestions ASAP, so that I may perform the necessary revisions and submit the draft to the DES auto-e-mail system about 1p.m. I'm pleased to inform those who may be concerned (yeah, right!) that I've updated my will, just in case, and am prepared to escape my fallout bunker via a secret tunnel, and press on to Cape shortly after the proposal is transmitted.

>>>>>Draft Proposal<<<<<

SUBJECT: Comment Proposal for SEMO'ian Web site Articles

FROM: Herr Hauptmann, DES Ombudsman for Community Outreach (so to speak)

TO: James Baughn, Webmaster

cc: Matt Sanders

Suit 1 (up the food chain...of CC)

Suit 2 (dittos)

Suit 3 (dittos)

CEO (aka, big boss)


Dear James Baughn:

Please find herein my proposal regarding how to appropriately deal with the more offensive and obstinate commentators to your paper's Web site articles. Your consideration and that of your superiors, should you see fit (or risk) to pass this on, would be truly appreciated.

Perhaps it would be more fitting to precede my proposal, which is actually quite short in and of itself, with some justification for my concerns with your Web site and, therefore, your paper's general image. I trust you may agree that the comments feature you provide is becoming more reflective of a national trend of indecency, vilification, intimidation, mocking, threats, and general spewing of hatred, even right here on the local level. This is of course a planned incremental cancer on our nation's moral institutions influenced by a Godless ideology which history has proven to be a complete failure; however, that is a topic for another time. Simply stated, if I may be so humble as to bottom-line it for you, are the increasingly vile and hateful comments which seem to be polluting said feature, especially in the Speak Out (SO) section, something you would prefer a prospective investor or even advertiser to see? Or, consider "the children". Would you want the children or grandchildren of folks from out of this area to be "entertained" and occupied by such nasty drivel? Surely, this would reflect a negative image of your entire paper, would it not?

We have seen that banning is not an effective solution for some of the more caustic offenders, as they seem to easily infiltrate right back in anyway. Quite the contrary, as this paper might even entertain condoning some of these offenders as, say, sanctioned bloggers with your site. The excessive vulgarity and hatefulness emanating from many, but not all, of the commentators simply does not achieve a family-friendly atmosphere for a local paper and Web site such as this one. And I will even step forward and offer myself as an example, albeit comparatively mild one if I may say so myself, of some of the nastiness and hate transmitted via the comments your paper appears to perpetuate. I tend to cuss and swear using the phonetic alphabet...well, at least it's somewhat colorful if you consider the international signal flags I use as a guide. But when the most vulgar words are used by simply injected one asterisk why, even a 5th grade child can sort out what is being said, don't you think? I could go on, but I think you get my points, at least enough to justify the purpose for my proposal below.

PROPOSAL: Reestablish the paper's good standing and credibility by simply doing away with the comments feature altogether, at least where it applies to the SO section. If that is deemed as too draconian by your superiors, may I suggest terminating said feature for certain periods of each day, say, like activating it only for the hours of 7 a.m. to 7 p.m. with no further inputs thereafter. Consider that, for many folks, 7 p.m. is about dinner time, and many usual suspects may be starting their evening abuse of booze and drugs anyway (thereby increasing the potential of increased potty-mouthing), so that would suffice for a good cutoff time...and by 7 a.m. they may be nursing their hangovers, etc. So, there it is, as simple as that. If folks cannot spew their quota of hate and discontent sufficiently within a time frame such as that, then they'll have to look elsewhere to bloviate.

Mr. Baughn, I am sure there are other measures you and your superiors may opt to consider, regarding a cleansing of what I endearingly call the SO "bog" (some refer to it as a cesspool, or toilet); however, I thought I would at least offer the above proposal as a suggested place to start mopping up...in the best interest of preserving the noble image of your paper and Web site, of course. Nevertheless, please be good enough to give the above concerns due consideration, and I'd truly appreciate your thoughts on the matter as soon as possible.

Always at your service,

Herr Hauptmann, Kommandant

Division of Outreach and Eradication Operations

>>>>>End Draft Proposal<<<<<

There. That should do it (or do me in!). Please expedite your suggested additions, deletions, cuss words, etc...or at least issue fair warning so I can at least try to duck and run for the bunker with a little style and grace. Transmit time will be about 1p.m.; however, don't expect any action from the suits at the paper...they'll be focused on prep'ing for the weekend anyway! Burma Bunker-busting Shave! Herr out.

-- Posted by Herr_Hauptmann_DES on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 11:43 AM


I fully understand your point as my daughter deals with these types of issues on a daily basis and her approach is the same as yours. I was just a little uncomfortable with this aspect of your post:

Joe_Cool : It would be interesting to know how YOUR kids did on the MAP test. With your attitude toward education, I wonder. Your "if I don't get my way I'm taking my kids and going home" attitude is a childish classic. I doubt Cape worries about whether your kid goes there or not---you still have to pay property taxes, this is, IF you own any property.

It is Joe_Cool's decision whether he wishes to have his children in public, private school or home school based on what he feels is in the best interests of his children. Whether or not he owns property and has to continue to pay taxes is really irrelevant. This is accepted by all who choose not to use the public schools. My take on it was that you questioned that he was well enough off to even be a property owner which seemed a little off base to me as how much property tax someone pays has no bearing on the education any one child receives. I pay a boat load of property taxes and none of my children are in school.

Of course I may be seeing something in your post that is not there or intended; don't mean to pick a fight or be disagreeable.

-- Posted by Red_Rhino on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 11:56 AM


It is a shame as there are times that have had legitimate intelligent debate with in the SO section. However doing so is becoming increasingly difficult given the current climate. I am surprised that certain comments were not eliminated from the blog over the past few days. I often wonder if some of these posters are truly that angry or if it is like WWE, merely here for entertainment.

-- Posted by SWBG on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 12:01 PM

For those actually interested, here is a link to the hows and whys of our purposely broken educational system. http://www.deliberatedumbingdown.com/

-- Posted by MoxFulder on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 12:10 PM

Mel, although I would be happy to provide body guard services for you, I will not be able to attend lunch today. This is my first full day back at work and well.... you know the deal. **** near three weeks of stuff to get caught up on is going to keep me firmly planted at the business.

Have a great time and don't let the lunatics get 'ya!

-- Posted by Instructor_aka____________ on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 12:13 PM

Pappa you ask why do I think everything is political? My answer is because everything IS political. There are politics in every aspect of your life everyday. You just don't see it that way apparently. Very little of your life is yours. You have been told this is a "free" country, but it is not. I am not saying every single thing government does is bad, but much of it is.

I commend you for teaching your children the correct way to live. I am just saying that the vast majority of parents don't. They don't for the most part because they wern't taught the correct way. Public schools started accelerating toward mediocrity about 50 or 60 years ago. Why do you think we lag far behind many countries of the world in education while we spend more?

John Taylor Gatto was a former educator. He has written several books and actually is an "expert" unlike the phony ones. Browse around his website if you have time, but certainly read his op-ed in the Wall Street Journal concerning his retirement from many years of public schooll teaching. http://www.johntaylorgatto.com/undergrou... I believe you will start to come around to my POV after you read it. Again, I am not saying everyone is stupid and sheepish, or every school system is inadequate. Unfortunately just the majority are.

-- Posted by Thought Criminal on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 12:14 PM


While I accept that there have been and continue to be problems with some posts on this site, I see no real reason for major modifications. We are all here voluntarily and if something offends us, we can respond to it, ignore it, hit the exclamation mark or just leave and do something that does not bother us. As to returning posters, I am sure many on here have had more than one incarnation. If an individual can learn something from being banned then chooses to come back under a different identity and behave themselves I see no problem. Many have gotten "hot under the collar" and said things they may regret, but they are good and decent people with often interesting and thought provoking posts.

I know the idea of self editing or deleting has been much vilified, but since we are not in a court of law and no damage can be done by so doing, that may be an option. Some seem to oppose it because they would lose the ability to play "gotcha". Where I worked we had the ability to recall an email if we had second thoughts or needed to make revisions and I am sure it saved quite a people from embarrassment or worse. I have no strong feelings one way or the other.

Just my humble opinion on the matter.

-- Posted by Red_Rhino on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 12:22 PM


Thanks for the clarification. Now I understand your point.

-- Posted by Red_Rhino on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 12:29 PM

Can't we all just get along? Put on a smile, throw on the shades, and relax for goodness sake.

-- Posted by all_i_hear_is_blah_blah on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 12:31 PM

Poppa/SWBG/Red-Rhino, et all:

Just hang in there for awhile. Y'all seem like some pretty smart folks, so I trust you'll decode what I'm up to, besides just having a little mild, albeit berserk-like fun before the weekend. If all works out as planned, you may just get a real hoot out of it!

Notice I also timed the stink nuke for the lunch hour? Not just to throw off the suits at the paper for a bit, but also just for a little desert for the luncheon usual suspects. Could be fatally fun, if all works out right!!

-- Posted by Herr_Hauptmann_DES on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 12:38 PM

Gosh poppa, I guess calling me a piece of sh*t on at least two different posts last night doesn't count for YOU using profanity?

What a **** joke. Practice what you preach.

-- Posted by Instructor_aka____________ on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 12:42 PM

I am mostly OK with SO as it is. There are some frustrations, but I'd rather deal with those than accept the proposed changes. I can remember when Herr first came on, some nastiness that has tainted my opinion of him since, so I find his suggestions rather curious.

-- Posted by DickCheney on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 12:44 PM

Never mind - it was supposed to be a joke. funny

-- Posted by DickCheney on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 12:52 PM


If you took offense at my statement that the vets of WWII were the last of the 'real men' as warriors then I am sorry but I still stand by my statement.

The discussion was of the 'stress' factor of the more modern military returning from tours of duty. I enumerated may factors that would allow them to publicaly cry and whine of 'stress', but they didn't.

Since you are a Civil War buff, I wonder what you have to say about a Confederate vet walking home and telling his wife he is 'stressed' and expecting the government to pay for his therapy.

'Real Men' are needed to prosecute war when necessary.

-- Posted by BABE on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 12:57 PM


A little slow, but I think I get it.

-- Posted by Red_Rhino on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 1:00 PM


It's not necessarily the profanity that I'm hinting at. Heck, even I indulge in my fair share of that action, kinda-sorta for fun! But what seems to be more dangerous, and will get worse between now & Nov (and beyond), is the unadulterated hate that's brewing up and being flung around, sometimes indiscriminatly, but sometimes directly targeted at someone...even with the force of a rabid mob mentality. Again, even I've expressed a certain specific kind of hatred, and will now and then state my justification for it; I just don't feel a need to dwell on it every dang day.

Oh, and by the way. No, I did not draft the Fairness Doctrine; if I'd had the opportunity, I would have done what I could to kill it forever. Anyway, I basically hate writing, always have. It doesn't matter whether it's writing for "the boss", proposals, position papers or, most especially, college papers (ugh), it's all a pain.

-- Posted by Herr_Hauptmann_DES on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 1:01 PM

I think that most people on this site are very intelligent and deserve credit for their conduct. I'm just an untrained intellectually challenged hillbilly, but have been given a chance to make a fool of myself at times, and I appreciate the paper allowing me the chance.

-- Posted by BCStoned on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 1:01 PM

"Following the Civil War, alarming headlines began popping up in newspapers across North Carolina. Like much of the South, there was a disturbing rise in the rate of suicides in the Tar Heel state. In particular, this "suicide epidemic" affected wounded war veterans. University of North Carolina historian David Silkenat joins host Frank Stasio to explain what these self-inflicted fatalities say about cultural shifts in post-war ethics and morals in North Carolina's white and African-American communities."


-- Posted by DickCheney on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 1:14 PM


I did not exactly lose control of my stress-management tools and go running to one of those phony shrinks after what you said about Vets & active military personnel since WWII. But you no doubt know that I've not hidden the fact that I have an obvious bias in favor of any worthy military person of any branch of service, any era (war or peace), and whether or not they've actually seen combat. Most of us who've served realize that the military is meant to be a mean-Alpha'd business, so much so that you can find yourself just as injured or dead in or out of a combat zone.

In the past, I at least gave you credit for the somewhat humorous way that you can lite certain folks panties into a bonfire. But why you chose to shotgun so many Vets and active military folks in one blast, I haven't figured out yet. But it caught me flat-footed too, to the point that, even with my rather crusty if not dark sense of humor, I chilled enough that I thought I'd just step away from the fray.

To be fair, Babe, you may have been toying with a valid point or two, within reason, if only you'd been a bit more tactful (remember, a certain set of principals, instead of the whole nuke?), and approached it from a different angle. Case-in-point: No Vet or active military type worth his or her salt could logically refute that the military gets it's fair share of mess-ups (trying to avoid some cussin' here), whether there is a draft or volunteer force. Even my dad told me he'd observed, and even treated (since he was a medic in the South Pacific) some of the very same problems during WWII as you mentioned for those since then...he even caught two homosexual troops going at it in a combat zone, so there.

Well, Babe. Enough said on this topic. I'm not exactly having a major snit over what you got yourself into the other day, it was just a little unpleasant sting that caused me no anxiety at all...and I'm not even a WWII Vet!! Oh, well. Believe it or not, I've even been known to forgive, if at least I can even remember what the heck it was I was 'sposed to forgive!

-- Posted by Herr_Hauptmann_DES on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 1:39 PM

Blocking the view

Just like I'll sue those CHURCHs, with their signs all over Cape and Jackson. Pushing your GOD out in the public square as it blocks my view when I'm trying to gobble down a 1/4 Pounder with chz, adjust my GPS, change the Sirius radio, and do 50mph down the road. The nerve.

-- Posted by fajar154 on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 1:48 PM

Herr: Have you not ever noticed that unfortunately Mom's brain does not kick in until waaaay after noon? The body may be moving and appear normal, but that's a Zombie State until at least 2:00-3:00 pm...

Or...you set the deadline with that in mind, maybe? How deviously clever of you! ;-)

-- Posted by gurusmom on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 1:56 PM


You notice one nutbag leaves(MJB) and one pops up? I think Mr Balleau has been mating with rabbits.

I noticed last night you were demoted to Spec 4 and were sandbagging with me. Sorry, but you were on the East Coast last time I checked.

-- Posted by fajar154 on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 2:01 PM

BTW: As an aside...twice while doing a "Google Search" for something (and what a surprise!) some Speak Out comments popped up. So...what we post here evidently is floating around out there in cyberspace for the entire country (world?) to read. YIKES...! Imagining someone in Seattle, WA, frowning and asking themselves, "Good grief, who ARE these people down there in Cape Girardeau, Missouri?"

-- Posted by gurusmom on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 2:06 PM


I am quite sure there are people wondering that exact thing!

I have noticed a trend of comparing the citizens of this fine nation to animals. We have Donkeys (Democrats), Elephants (Republicans), we have sheep (anyone who does not agree with me or my point of view and is being led by the other side), and now we have pigs (I guess anyone who has ever received any governmental aid).

Of course as individuals we are never any of these animals it is always those other people.

-- Posted by SWBG on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 2:15 PM


Well, Gee-...Mom, how can I notice whether or not your brain has kicked in when mine is almost perpetually out of gear?!! Besides, it takes me about the same amount of time (all a.m....if I make it up before noon) just to suck down enough of that brown starter fluid stuff, then cross-bleed it from the left ventricle to the right (a little fake aircraft maint. lingo for displaced sailors!) just to determine if the heart is operational!!!

And yes, my "evil scheme", for fun donchaknow, of the day does have a bit of a timetable in mind, just to make it more interesting. Hope it works out as planned, then you'll get it! And thanks for your gentle nagging (oops, nudging), as I tend to put some things off, until someone pokes me with a fid in the right place for incentive! Now I can goof off this weekend, that is when the Mule's not lookin' and the bunnies are fat & happy.

-- Posted by Herr_Hauptmann_DES on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 2:22 PM

Ok, let me try to clarify. I have NO problem with reading during the summer. When we were in Houston, I used to sign my kids up for the summer reading program at the public library every year. I wanted them to continue to exercise their brains. What got ridiculous was that there was so much other work required that we could not participate in the library's summer reading program. Imagine this, a soon to be 6th grader is supposed to read 4 books in an 10-week time frame (not 3 months as school was dismissed on or about 5/30 and resumed on 8/10). Additionally, there are at least 2 papers due on 2 other subjects. These are complex papers, not something you can throw out in an afternoon. I am ALL for not allowing kids to be sedentary over the summer, but enough is enough. As I recall, I didn't do diddly squat over the summer in college on a course in which I was not enrolled. If you think differently, good for you.

-- Posted by motrans on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 2:31 PM


Your e-mail makes sense if you buy into that line of propaganda. E-mails such as that are merely meant to divide us as a country and serve no useful purpose but to anger a portion of the population not willing to see the fallacy. Some may actually believe that it is true that a college exchange student with a bullet in his back knows more of the entitlement programs in this country than those running the programs.

You see poppa there are those that believe that a mother with four children living on TANF and food stamps is raking it in and living the high life. Of course there are those that abuse systems in place but I would suggest the vast majority of people utilizing these programs do so out of true necessity.

Now if you think of that e-mail as a joke I did think it to be rather humorous.

-- Posted by SWBG on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 2:33 PM


Your suggestion is a complete infringment of Freedom of Speech. I find it really odd that all these "Policing" activities come from those who posture themselves as Republicans. After all, you are one of the ones against "more" government involvement...am I correct?

-- Posted by """""""""""" on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 2:43 PM


I liked the e-mail thing and although do not agree with the entire concept I am glad you shared.

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 2:46 PM

Also, I want to add this. If some of you would come to the lunches, you would see that a lot of differences are mended once we sit down and talk rationally. Let's be honest, "print" is not always the best way to communicate, because so much gets lost in translation.

-- Posted by """""""""""" on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 2:48 PM

SWBG or anyone,

I would be interested to know, but too lazy to research what "Welfare Programs" are available today. I use to be quite familiar with them prior to "Welfare Reform". I know for a fact that welfare programs of several years ago did encourage dependence on the government and was a disincentive to work as single females with children could live much better on welfare than working. For a while even intact families could draw a significant amount of AFDCUF. I know it has changed, but really don't know that much about the changes. Even some of the former DSS workers who worked for me were really not too clear and there seemed to be ways around some of the obstacles.

-- Posted by Red_Rhino on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 2:49 PM


I may not agree with you on the homework thing but I do agree I don't remember doing anything over the summer when was in college.

The thing that kills me with the schools is when the kids are in elementary it is all about grade level reading and AR points. They have to be at a certain level and have so many points but when they get to high school it is all about the points and nothing to do with reading level. My daughter thought she would be smart and read some junior high books to get her AR points for the quarter as not to tie up a lot of time reading. I let her read them and then made her read one at her level as well, she didn't try that again.

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 2:51 PM


Well said and I was very proud of the two of you today!

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 2:58 PM


I don't recall ever stating I was a Republican, although I don't see that I have any logical choice for voting this year...well, unless you want to send someone like Zell Miller (?) my way; might consider someone like him.

Regarding lunches. I don't do lunches, mostly because my Mule has a schedule that negates even getting the heart started by noon, let alone finding my way to Cape before mid-afternoon. I'd like to think that my daily routine would tend to help me stay more fit and trim...as long as I avoid too much of that roadkill. I'm just pretty used to batchin' it, 'cause I don't think it's fair to ask Mule to fix dinners if she's not around to enjoy them with me. Oh, and another thing. Certain affiliations that I maintain also somewhat negates my being a, well, people person. Until I'm ready to terminate (geeze, I shouldn't use the "T" word when referring to them...try "retire my status"...there!) my services with them, my choice is to move among the shadows; which is somewhat obe'd on a bright, sunny day!!

-- Posted by Herr_Hauptmann_DES on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 3:09 PM

Red Rhino.

The fact is (25 years ago) Everyone received a quality education "without" going to school year round or extended days. If "the system" can't accomplish that in the 21st Century, then we have a real problem, don't you think?? After all, we are a more advanced a efficient society now...right?

Additionally, I have "3" kids in the system and I don't see them receiving the same quality education in the public system as I did 25 years ago. That being said, I happened to be one of those Catholics that decided to depend upon the public school system because I was happy with it's results for me. (My sister stayed in the parochial school system, I opted out because the public school system had advanced band and orchestra programs)

Also...since you know NOTHING about me. I do own a house, in the city limits of Cape Girardeau, and I DO pay taxes to the school system. So why wouldn't I expect the best for my kids? But if best now means that the school system must utilize a 12 month calender to accomplish what used to be done in 9 months, I think the average parent would question why that is. As far as my kids aptitude, both function very well and receive good grades, but I also observe the stress they have with more requirements.

In closing, I'll reiterate what I said. IF the Cape Public School system WOULD revert to a 12 month calender, YES...I will pull my kids out, and put them in the Parochial System. Yeah, I'll still have to pay school tax, but other people do the same thing every day!

-- Posted by """""""""""" on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 3:11 PM

"Reestablish the paper's good standing and credibility by simply doing away with the comments feature altogether, at least where it applies to the SO section." I'd really miss you, Herr, among others! As stated a time or two, I've learned a lot from some of the comments...and think perhaps, even at my Mom-Age, I've broadened my views and perspectives in some areas.

Besides the 1:00 pm deadline...You picked a FRIDAY for it! Remember? Lunch Day? Posters out eating and schmoozing, and then lolling around letting the gastric juices do their thing?

Hmmm...Maybe a rule that crude, offensive, attack-mode comments can only be posted between, say, 10:00 pm to 11:00 pm (kids should be in bed by then, right?). Or that time period reserved for those in the Defensive Foul Mood Mode; no DFMM comments at any other time?

-- Posted by gurusmom on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 3:12 PM


Not to sure about the cuurent "welfare" programs out there. So far in life have been fortunate and not had to rely on them but I know it must be something as still a lot of the locals that get help to one extent or another and on the other hand I know of several people that although they work at low paying jobs aren't eligible for any kind of assistance at all. Maybe will check into it someday and see what can find.

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 3:14 PM

Red Rhino, I may owe you an apology. I think I got "lost in translation" about who was busting my chops about year round school. LOL God forbid, can anyone have an opinion?? LOL

-- Posted by """""""""""" on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 3:18 PM

Joe I can see your point about the year around school. I know I joke with my kids that it should last all year but not so sure I mean it. Have family that attends all year and as it is all they have ever known they love it. The kids have more breaks throughout the year and are actually out of school the same amount of time as mine just in a different way. My thing is I am afraid it would push my son over the edge as he is not much of one for school as it is and it is a fight to get him to do what he is suppose to do.

We opted out of the Catholic school a few years ago when the kids decided they would rather attend the public school with their friends. Except for this year with one of the kids I have never regretted that choice. Parochial schools are great for some not so much for others.

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 3:21 PM

I do have to laugh about the coke and ice flying "after the heated portion" LOL!

-- Posted by """""""""""" on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 3:21 PM


LOL no that they can't.

Yeah at first I think Pups was wringing his hands some, Nickey looked a little worried and i was thinking I was to close but you did good. We all have to stand up for ourselves and sometimes getting it all out face to face is the best thing.


Now if the ice and coke would have went flying a few minutes sooner I would have been worried!

Great lunch guys I enjoyed it.

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 3:24 PM

poppa, you still just don't get it, do you? I can assure you your son is NOT in the same unit as I. My ARMY RESERVE unit is in Des Moines IA. As a matter of fact, there is only ONE other member of my unit in the Cape Girardeau area (who happens to be in the Team I lead) and SHE is a female. The only male soldiers in my Team are over 200 miles from Cape.

I most certainly am not a supply clerk. Never have been, never will be. I actually hold three MOS's (74D NBC Specialist, 21B Combat Engineer, and the MOS I happen to teach 92F with an 8 identifier.

poppa, you are a **** idiot who has no idea what I do in the Reserves. Quit trying to make yourself sound as if you do.

-- Posted by Instructor_aka____________ on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 3:26 PM

My kids could use some of that knuckle busting Nun action on occasion. LOL! (like to day) They've left me here alone in order to play video games at their friends houses. They didn't even ask, they just made their plans. (I had to play "Taxi Service" for about 30 minutes after I left lunch.)

-- Posted by """""""""""" on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 3:27 PM


Missed you at lunch today maybe next time.

Now as far as poppa goes I am learning with babe to IGNORE. It is working some even if hard to do, even last night when she went to name calling I simply ignored her and made her argue with herself. We know who you are and you seem like an okay guy so what does it matter if a stranger doesn't know you and wants to say things.

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 3:29 PM


Very few of the local schools are still taught by nuns.......but you are right man they were tough.

You are nicer than me. My kids know they make no plans without asking me or their dad first and if they do then they have to cancell them until they learn to ask first. Thankfully it is small enough here they walk or ride a bike to friends.

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 3:32 PM

It would have been an interesting lunch if Instructor and Poppa had shown up. There would have been soda and ice everywhere. LOL

-- Posted by """""""""""" on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 3:32 PM


Another thought I had about your response was that most illegal aliens know more about our entitlement programs than I do, so yes I find it just a tad bit convincing.

-- Posted by poppa on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, 1:58 pm CDT

How many illegal aliens do you know?

-- Posted by SWBG on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 3:34 PM

Angel, I'll pass down my parental punishment tomorrow. LOL It's mowing day!

-- Posted by """""""""""" on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 3:34 PM

besides most of the kids end up at MY house anyway. Got rid of two to camps and such and ended up with 4 that aren't even mine. Oh well at least I know where they are and what they are doing.

The funny thing was who knocked the ice over and the direction it went. I know if me'Lange would have gotten it in her lap it might not have been but I think it was a real "ice breaker"

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 3:35 PM


Bless your heart. I think you're meticulously breaking the code imbedded in my "evil scheme"!! Just hang in there for awhile, and be patient. If not, you may spoil some of the fun. Or, if what I'm hopefully expecting doesn't happen soon, maybe I'll explain my goofiness tomorrow. Besides, I could make the case that YOU instigated some of this craziness on my part!!

Speakin' of breakin' a code. I haven't received a signal I was waiting for by now. Therefore, I should heed the mandate issued from "Mule who must be obeyed" that if I'm still hangin' around the plantation by mid-afternoon (& not feeding bunnies as an excuse), then I'm in for a trough-load of trouble. So, could ya do me a favor? Once I get outta here, I'll be flubbing around Cape for the rest of the afternoon, so if ya spot something of interest (I think ya get my drift), could ya pop up your balloons to give me a heads-up, so I'll know to look for it? Purrrdeepleeeeze?!! Otherwise, I may have to come forward tomorrow and do that gig with the folks about the "cherry tree", donchaknow?!!!

-- Posted by Herr_Hauptmann_DES on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 3:36 PM

Go get them dad!

I know I have a child coming back from Columbia tonight and her first job tomorrow is to clean her room. I haven't went in it in a few weeks and did earlier which was a mistake.

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 3:38 PM


You too and if don't talk to you before hand see you at the gym monday.

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 3:41 PM

I just avoid the bedrooms anymore. It's one of those things that is best "outta sight, and outta mind" for me. Nothing kicks my shins like a cluttered room.

-- Posted by """""""""""" on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 3:46 PM

I need to pry myself off this thing too. My new computer was just delivered, so I need to rip that open and see what I can break. Later all.

-- Posted by """""""""""" on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 3:49 PM


I know and usually I do as well. I go in once a week to dust, change sheets, gather laundry that sort of thing and then shut the door and let them have at it but I couldn't even find the furniture in her room to dust it, it was beyond cluttered and she is almost 16 old enough to keep it half way clean.

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 3:50 PM


It is your use of the word most that I take issue with. I am under the impression that many illgal immigrants come to this country as a way to better themselves often working harder at jobs that people here will not do. Now whether they should be here or not is a different story. I don't want to see amnesty but there is obviously an underground labor need that attracts these people. Not everyone who crosses the border comes to run drugs and steal.

-- Posted by SWBG on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 4:09 PM

The topic of Illegal vs legal status had me thinking and I'm being to lazy to look it up myself so I'll throw it out there.

What is the status of a child born to a Legal American and a Non American in a foriegn country of said Non American but not on military or Embassy soil? Is that child a legal citizen of the US? And when the non American parent becomes a legal citizen (paper/sworn in legal) does the status of said child if Illegal become legal?

-- Posted by Pups on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 4:26 PM

Ooops should have prefaced my previous question with the fact that it is friday and my brain is mush and has a tendancy under normal circumstances to come up with weird, not wacko, weird stuff.

-- Posted by Pups on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 4:28 PM

I believe government schools' ultimate goal is to keep the citizenry ignorant enough to make them unable to dominate their governement as a truly free society would require.

-- Posted by uberfan20 on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 4:30 PM


If paper were to decide to accept the new guidelines, would think it would be awefully quiet in here. Though guessing that might be the point concidering all the 'bog' type posting that we all fall into from time to time.

I think I'm missing said objective of the new order. Mmmm new order...... to much...... can't process..... must rethink.... nope aint gonna do it, not prudent at this juncture....I did not have relations.... help I've fallen and I can't get......Mission.......Change.....Peace....left.... right......does not compute, self distruct in....Sorry about that Chief.....Luuucy you have some spaining to do....I've now totally lost it.

-- Posted by Pups on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 4:39 PM


Not sure if it is still the same but I know in the early 80's my cousin married a guy from Canada and that is where they chose to live, she got her visa for there. When their kids were born they were American citizens because their mom was. They have changed so many of the laws pertaining to citizenship I am not sure if it is that way now or not.

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 4:49 PM

Thanks Semo,

Was just kind of curious. Besides it would be fun to tell some of my Siblings they were illegals. haha

I enjoyed the lunch today btw, and I actually liked the food too. :-)

-- Posted by Pups on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 4:54 PM

Again I am going to appologize for my ignorance upfront...

Who is the MotorCity Man?? I thought the Motor City was in Michigan so which Michigan politician are you refering too?

-- Posted by Pups on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 4:57 PM


I know what you mean i swear at times i was adopted just to keep from claiming some of the family!

I agree about lunch, kind of worried at first but all worked out well.

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 4:57 PM

Thanks Poppa,

Was thinking I might need to step away from the pc every once and a while and experience the real world, cause I was lost on that one. lol

-- Posted by Pups on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 5:02 PM


A little before my time, or should say a little before my listening to music regularly time. I should have known who you meant, but my head was stuck on politics. Again, sorry about that.

-- Posted by Pups on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 5:09 PM


your question reminded me of what my grandpa always said when we would tell him he was getting old. "I am like a fine wine and just keep getting better with time" Nothing wrong with getting older we all will someday

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 5:14 PM


How do you know I'm not your age now?? I just might not remember the mid to late 70's. lol

-- Posted by Pups on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 5:22 PM


Which entitlement programs are most of these illegal immigrants taking advantage of?

-- Posted by SWBG on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 5:32 PM

Just some humor...

"At my age FLOWERS scare me."

"Be nice to your children. They will choose YOUR nursing home."

The shortest sentence is "I am." The longest is "I do."

Sent to me by a friend who said they were the new AARP bumper stickers. (kidding)

-- Posted by Pups on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 5:45 PM


Love it and they are right about I do being the longest sentence!

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 5:49 PM


I don't have to worry about the second one as I don't have children. But, was thinking, be nice to your son about school cause it could come back to you. LMAO j/k

-- Posted by Pups on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 5:59 PM

LOL I dont know if I would trust any of the kids to decide my nursing home. I think I will just move in with them in my old age and be done with it.

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 6:09 PM


I believe Ted Nugent blasted the four judges with the dissenting opinion. If so, I must agree with him though conditional as I don't know the specifics at this point.

-- Posted by Red_Rhino on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 6:12 PM

Pups, come on now, you are still a young man. Quit talking as if you are in your 70's!!!

Sorry I missed lunch today. Too many things on my agenda to break away. I assume there will be no lunch scheduled for next Friday as it will be the 4th. Perhaps we could schedule it on the 3rd to compensate for the Holiday.

-- Posted by Instructor_aka____________ on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 6:12 PM

July 14,1861

Camp Clark, Washington DC

Dear Sarah:

The indications are very strong that we shall move in a few days - perhaps tomorrow. And lest I should not be able to write you again I feel impelled to write a few lines that may fall under your eye when I am no more.

I have no misgivings about, or lack of confidence in the cause in which I am engaged, and my courage does not halt or falter. I know how American Civilization now leans upon the triumph of the government and how great a debt we owe to those who went before us through the blood and suffering of the Revolution. And I am willing - perfectly willing - to lay down all my joys in this life, to help maintain this government, and to pay that debt.

Sarah, my love for you is deathless, it seems to bind me with mighty cables that nothing but omnipotence can break; and yet my love of Country comes over me like a strong wind and bears me irresistibly with all those chains to the battlefield. The memory of all the blissful moments I have enjoyed with you come crowding over me, and I feel most deeply grateful to God and you, that I have enjoyed them for so long. And how hard it is for me to give them up and burn to ashes the hopes and future years, when, God willing, we might still have lived and loved together, and see our boys grown up to honorable manhood around us.

If I do not return, my dear Sarah, never forget how much I loved you, nor that when my last breath escapes me on the battle field, it will whisper your name...

Forgive my many faults, and the many pains I have caused you. How thoughtless, how foolish I have sometimes been!...

But, 0 Sarah, if the dead can come back to this earth and flit unseen around those they love, I shall always be with you, in the brightest day and in the darkest night... always, always. And when the soft breeze fans your cheek, it shall be my breath, or the cool air your throbbing temple, it shall be my spirit passing by.

Sarah do not mourn me dead; think I am gone and wait for me, for we shall meet again...


Sullivan Ballou was killed a week later at the 1st Battle of Bull Run.

-- Posted by BABE on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 6:14 PM


I know you have probably answered this before but I missed it? Do you guys do the screen printing on t-shirts with people's own designs? Looking to get more shirts made up for company.

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 6:17 PM


I never said I was in my 70's, I just said I may not remember all of the 1970's. LOL

Actually, lunch on thursday could be a plan. I take it you would be able to attend?

-- Posted by Pups on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 6:18 PM

Angel, we can print whatever design you desire. If you need artwork done, it is included in the price of the shirt.

Give me a call at work if you need any assistance.

-- Posted by Instructor_aka____________ on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 6:38 PM

Pups, I more than likely would be able to make lunch on the 3rd.

-- Posted by Instructor_aka____________ on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 6:39 PM

Thanks will do that within the next week or so......we have the design it will be the same as always just checking on where to get it done closer to home.

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 6:40 PM


I apparently got the wrong impression. I will try to catch it on Fox or other network. Thanks

-- Posted by Red_Rhino on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 6:41 PM

Part of Ted Nugent's Quote, sorry for the copy and paste. There is more, but I too skip over long posts.

"It is glaringly obvious that a critical lesson in history 101 is due in America, for it appears that not only does a lunatic fringe of anti-freedom Americans dismiss our founding fathers’ clear declaration of independence and succinct enumeration of our God-given individual rights, but some Americans have the arrogance and audacity to question whether the right to self-defense is indeed one of these individual rights. Dear God in heaven, who could be this soulless? How about 4 out of the 9 so called “Supreme” justices of the land. God help us all.

Who could be so asinine as to believe that a free man has no such right to keep and bear arms for self-defense? What kind of low-life scoundrel would know that courageous heroes of the U.S. Military would volunteer over and over again to sacrifice and die for such self-evident truths, then turn around and spit on their graves by discounting the very freedoms that these brave men and women have died to protect?

Will these supreme legal scholars also affirm an individual right to choose the religion of our individual choice? Do they authorize our individual freedom of speech? Can you imagine? Them is fighting words my friends, and the line drawn in the sand has never been more outrageous.

Recent USA Today and Gallup polls showed a whopping 73% of good Americans know **** well that we are all created equal, and that we each have an individual right to protect our life, liberty and pursuit of happiness. What kind of ******* doesn’t know this? Allow the guitar player to translate for the soul-dead among us.

Keep-this means the gun is mine and you can’t have it. This does not mean I will register it with a government agency. The government works for “we the people,” not the other way around, regardless of what Hillary Clinton, Ted Kennedy, Hitler, Mao Tse Tung, Pol Pot, Saddam Hussein or Barack Hussein Obama or 4 supreme justices may try to tell you."

-- Posted by Red_Rhino on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 6:49 PM


Just watched the video, and I think he is upset with the whole Supreme Court, not just the disenters (sp). But I could be wrong.

-- Posted by Pups on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 6:49 PM


Wow, none of what you pasted was in the video I just saw on Fox. What I saw and what you posted gives two different 'meanings' to what he has said.

-- Posted by Pups on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 6:53 PM


Where did you see the video? I can understand if he is as the Court, as I feared, left plenty of room for "reasonable restrictions". This just leaves many questions open and ripe for further appeals. I am glad that the Court affirmed the "individual right" as opposed to the "collective right", but I too would have liked for them to have gone further.

Maybe he is just more angry at the four dissenters and just a little less so than the five others.

-- Posted by Red_Rhino on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 6:54 PM


Don't know if this link will work, but this is where I saw it. If you scroll down toward the bottom of the page you'll see Ted's pick. Click and video should load. Warning, you have to see a coal 'commercial' first.


-- Posted by Pups on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 7:00 PM

Gotta leave the office for a bit.... check back in a little later.

-- Posted by Pups on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 7:01 PM


Thanks, the key is in the first part of the video when he says how "members" could view it this way. It is VERY misleading unless you read his formal statement. They need to re edit it or something.

-- Posted by Red_Rhino on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 7:08 PM


None of which you stated are entitlement programs. Since when is insurance an entitlement program. Maybe if companies would have to provide insurance for illegal aliens they will stop hiring illegals. The purpose of the said bill you quoted is to get employers to stop the practice of hiring illegal immigrants.

Food banks sponsored by churches are not entitlement programs. Entitlement programs come from the government. These are charitable organizations. The one I volunteer at you must have an ID or social security card to get food.

Now are illegal immigrants a drain on our medical and insurance system? Absolutely. But these are not entitlement programs. Are illegal immigrants receiving Medicaid, Medicare, Social Security, Unemployment benefits?

Are you one of these people that believe we should build a wall around the entire country? The problem is not with these illegal immigrants but with the employers giving them jobs because they want to make more of a profit and have a cheap source of labor.

-- Posted by SWBG on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 7:18 PM


My position or interpretation of the 2nd Amendment is more far reaching than that in the recent Heller decision, but I am probably in the minority. My position is founded on freedom rather than any fear of government or black helicopters.

-- Posted by Red_Rhino on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 7:24 PM


I am with you on that. Freedom. But Ted sounds a bit paranoid in his rant.

-- Posted by SWBG on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 7:34 PM


I know what you mean. Sometimes you can ruin a perfectly good and reasonable opinion in the presentation.

-- Posted by Red_Rhino on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 7:45 PM


I know there is abuse. People obtain things illegally. We should more aggressively guard our border and deport those here illegally. We should more aggresively prosecute those employers who are employing illegals. However the xenophobic and racist tenor rising in our country is frightening. My guess is if there was an influx of english speaking white Canadians running across the border to better their lives no one would really be complaining.

-- Posted by SWBG on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 7:55 PM


Sorry for intruding, but you said, "Charity starts at home!!" Careful, cause that could be used for an arguement against foreign aid. Ooops different topic. lol

-- Posted by Pups on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 8:17 PM


Did not mean to imply you are a racist. We are a country of immigrants. The immigration problem is not an easy one. However it is easy to see the racial overtones to some of the approaches taken by some.

-- Posted by SWBG on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 8:18 PM


You liberal smart alec! Don't try to confuse the discussion with something that makes sense.

-- Posted by SWBG on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 8:20 PM


Ooooppps you caught me. Why is it you always see my traps????? lol

-- Posted by Pups on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 8:26 PM


That is because that is what all liberals do. They lay traps for honest hard woking Americans to fall into. You lull us with sweet rhetoric then raise our taxes to pay for illegal aliens entitlement programs!

-- Posted by SWBG on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 8:49 PM


You are definately making my slow night at work (not a complaint mind you) a 'fun' one. Didn't realize I had so much power, but then again according to some, we Liberals are the Devil's children. LMAO

-- Posted by Pups on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 9:25 PM


I can read you like a cheap dime store novel. You are one of these educated liberals from the upper echelon of the lower middle class. You think you have some kind of life experience just because you have been outside of Southeast Missouri. You sit in your office with time to spare because you have efficiently taken care of work then liberally helped others when you can. Then you post your left winged liberal jargon in the guise of centrist logic hoping no one will notice your secret agenda to make sense of things. You can't fool me. Be careful because I am watching you. Everytime you see a short white bald guy I am there. You will start seeing me everywhere.

-- Posted by SWBG on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 9:45 PM


Well then I see you everytime I look in the mirror. Ok, maybe I'm just a short white BALDING guy, but I'm getting there. haha

mmmm interesting though, educated , upper lower middle class, and traveled. You are a psychic. Either that or I have let too much info out in my posts.

-- Posted by Pups on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 9:59 PM


Hey just realized you called me cheap. I'm not cheap, just frugal. lol

-- Posted by Pups on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 10:22 PM


you are the only person I have ever called a name on this blog...intentionally. If you inferred that I called you cheap I apologize for your mistake. If you would like to make it up to me I will let you buy me lunch if I ever make it to one!

-- Posted by SWBG on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 10:31 PM


Deal. And I forgive you. lol

-- Posted by Pups on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 10:41 PM

I mean I forgive me...... wow helps if I read correctly. But in my defense, like I said earlier today, brain is mush today. It is friday after all.

-- Posted by Pups on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 10:43 PM

Out for the night. Everyone have a great weekend.

-- Posted by Pups on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 10:43 PM

Re: the ethanol ruse

A little 'corn'-fused here - the caller states that a 25-gallon fillup uses enough corn to feed a person for a year. Hmm, OK, I can believe that after perusing this site:


A 25-gallon fillup of E85 would contain 21.25 gallons of ethanol - at the current conversion rate of 2.7 gallons per bushel - would require almost 8 bushels of corn. Then looking at the amounts of other products available from a SINGLE bushel - OK, that 'feeding a person for a year' part is believable, but not verified.

But - the caller seems to contradict his/her-self - the current price of ethanol IS below $3 per gallon according to the Chicago Board of Trade:


Again - too many smoke-and-mirrors going on as to whether ethanol is an overall 'plus', or 'minus'.

However, judging by the number of proposed plants NOT being built - have to wonder whether the bad outweighs the good under the current market balance.




So, is the answer to continue to skew the energy market with increased ethanol subsidies and what-not - or to just bail?

Yes, I try to keep an open mind - as one poster used to rag on me to no end for - 'we need results, not excuses'. But I also remember that "if you don't know where you're going, any direction will get you there".

-- Posted by fxpwt on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 11:02 PM

Re: Summer homework

Ah, geez, c'mon. What is this caller going to do when a real crisis comes along?

All that whine, and no cheese.

If one doesn't like it, then don't do it - failing to meet expectations is apparently not as big of an issue as it used to be.

Instead of rising to the challenge - the caller is headed in the direction of forming a class-action to collectively sue to lower the bar.

Perhaps this caller's child can buy a couple of book reports online to meet the minimum requirement, and if extremely ambitious in this day and age, actually load the book into his/her video game and have it read to him/her while being otherwise distracted by the TV, computer, or iPod.

Wouldn't even have to change farm animals - no need to get on their horse and off their dead arse.

-- Posted by fxpwt on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 11:22 PM

Re: Dangerous intersection


1) Have your children wait for and then ride the bus.

2) Get them there a bit earlier to beat the rush. Or, I suppose later would work if one isn't worried about being tardy.

3) Take a different route.

Safer for the entire community? Missing this point - I very rarely ever pass by that area - how am I safer? Or is this just the familiar and all-too-abused bandwagon sales approach? "I have a problem, and solving this problem would be an improvement in the quality of life for everybody. Can't you just feel the love?". Pfffft.

Sounds like someone else whining about how the government should make their life easier, no matter what the cost. Got that farm animal thing going again.

-- Posted by fxpwt on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 11:34 PM


-- Posted by """""""""""" on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 11:47 PM

Re: Blocking the view

Yeah, let me know how that suing thing works out.

Although in this day and age, wouldn't be too surprised that a known stationary visual obstruction could be declared the at-fault party involving a collision of moving vehicles.

Surely a state-licensed operator of a motor vehicle can't be expected to be held accountable for displaying caution and taking appropriate measures to fit the situation.

Any more whine tonite, and I'll be over the legal limit here.

-- Posted by fxpwt on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 11:47 PM

Re: What Washington wrote

My head hurts after reading "all that", so I offer my personal 2008-vintage, unofficial, unverfied translation - "Me thinks that religion and government need to be separated".


-- Posted by fxpwt on Sat, Jun 28, 2008, at 12:11 AM

Doggone it, almost got a 'funkle' in.

-- Posted by fxpwt on Sat, Jun 28, 2008, at 12:12 AM

not to be confused with a burble....

-- Posted by ..Rick on Sat, Jun 28, 2008, at 12:17 AM

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