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Speak Out 6/26/08

Thursday, June 26, 2008

Need new faces

THIS IS a voting year. Let's get some new faces in our government. These inexperienced people will be welcome. The old legislators and ideas are not working, except for themselves. Come on, people, let's get out and vote. What happened to a government for the people and by the people?

School torn down

SHAME ON you, Oak Ridge School District administration, for not letting the public know that the old Oak Ridge High School was being torn down. We could have taken pictures. The news media should have been notified.

Short-term view

THE ARGUMENT that we need to drill for more oil and develop nuclear plants illustrates the problem with a "short-term profits at the expense of future generations" mentality. The Faustian bargain, a pact with the devil for a few more years of pleasure, has long been attractive. Unfortunately, we still know not what to do with nuclear waste, which is toxic for thousands of years, and oil companies are showing us on a weekly basis that they cannot drill and transport oil without causing environmental disaster. It is clear U.S. Sen. Kit Bond has no ability for long-term vision.

Here's why

YOUR EDITORIAL cartoon June 24 asked why we have a 500-year flood every 15 years. The answer is easy: It's the levees, stupid. If you squeeze a two-mile-wide river into a half-mile-wide channel it's bound to run higher. Clear all the forests upstream and you have a man-made disaster waiting to happen. Then you build outside the levee and you'll be flooded out.

Jackson burning

ANOTHER NICE evening ruined by someone burning trash. It's bad enough in the fall with everyone burning leaves, but having to put up with it all summer is wrong. It is time that Jackson stopped being a hick town and banned burning.

Downtown flowers

OK, OLD Town Cape, the huge flower pots on Main Street are looking pretty bad. Some have no flowers, and some have weeds. Can't downtown merchants at least water them and do a little routine maintenance? It's a good thing Libertyfest will not be down there.

Egregious editorial

YOUR STORIES about Sprigg Street were scintillating, but your follow-up editorial was an egregious disappointment. There's a Sprigg Street in every community. It reflects the de facto socio-economic and, to some extent, racial segregation that is common to communities across America. Instead of issuing a rousing clarion call for an end to this apartheid, your editorial seemed to gloss it over by simply saying that's the way it is and will, by implication, always be.

Making a choice

AM I missing something? People voluntarily choose to purchase property in rural areas with gravel or dirt roads and then go on a campaign complaining about the dust and blame the county commission for not paving their road. What did they expect? Go figure.

Treatment of pets

I AM horrified at the treatment of pets in Missouri. You would think people would be ashamed that Missouri leads the U.S. in the number of puppy mills and dogfighting. Everyone knows this and apparently chooses to ignore it. Until laws are made stricter against puppy mills and dogfighting, the abuse will continue. Until people demand change, whether with drunken drivers or animals or children, it will all stay the same.


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First up today!

Making A Choice,

It's the same mentality as the people who buy a house near an airport and then start complaining about the noise!

-- Posted by Data48 on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 6:29 AM

Need new faces

wonder if we need a whole new bunch of elected folks

doing on-the-job training . there's nothing wrong

with new ideas or leadership , but a little bit

at a time might work better then an entire

overall ....

-- Posted by ..Rick on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 6:50 AM

oops , good morning everyone ...

-- Posted by ..Rick on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 6:51 AM

We need to elect new people this fall. It is obvious the status quo is not working. Time for a change people have had enough.

-- Posted by swampeastmissouri on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 6:57 AM

Off todays topics: Might I suggest that those that got their blood pressure soaring yesterday take a chill pill and back away from the computer rather then engage in the type of rhetoric you did yesterday. Its one thing to disagree with an OPINION. Its another to use tactics to intimidate one you disagree with by using a legal name. I doubt any of you hang your head in shame over losing your cool but IN MY OPINION, you should.

-- Posted by KingsKid on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 7:43 AM

Good morning. I will introduce myself as motrans. I grew up in SE MO, but moved to TX in the early 80's. Thus, my nickname stands for Missouri transplant. I read the Missourian daily to catch up on the latest & greatest, sadly must read the obits daily. I truly enjoy reading the musings in this forum. I am reminded of my dad's saying "Opinions are like noses. Everyone has one." Have a good day!

-- Posted by motrans on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 7:58 AM

Kingskid

I see your point but that is not what it was about. If you go through and read the comments you will see that it was Babe once again that had the nerve to call out a member of the military and tell him he was not fighting in a real man's war. He wanted her name for the soul purpose of writing a letter to the editor and calling her out for what she stated. If I were in his shoes I too would be hot under the collar.

Babe has gone too far and needs to be repremanded.

-- Posted by NickeyB63780 on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 8:00 AM

Also a side note there are several people who tend to think anytime you disagree with someone else's OPINION you have a personal vendetta against them so please someone anyone pray tell how would one debate against that without having the righteous ones say its personal??

-- Posted by NickeyB63780 on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 8:04 AM

Sorry but I have one last thing to point out. If Babe would do as other posters here have done and say this simple phrase "I'm sorry if I offend anyone but this is how I believe and feel about...." Maybe people wouldn't take it so offensivly. She has never once apologized for anything or agreed to disagree with anyone. She is the BIGGEST agitator in here and that's saying ALOT considering that I know how much Aggie can agitate but at least he knows when to shut up!

-- Posted by NickeyB63780 on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 8:12 AM

Melange

I am just wondering how you can debate someone without someone else stating that it is personal. It seems as though EVERYTIME I put anything down here with regards to a STATEMENT being wrong in my opinion a certain person just naively thinks that its a personal problem with the poster when its the STATEMENT that I disagree with.

-- Posted by NickeyB63780 on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 8:32 AM

I know there are personality conflicts and that everyone is entitled to their opinion but what some don't realize is that when they pick on certain things then without looking into what is really said then that's where conflict also arises.

Take Monday for example. I was NO WHERE IN SIGHT on Monday however a conflict arose. No one said anything Tuesday no one said anything. Yesterday I actually decided to comment for a change after a 3-4 day break and here comes Gurusmom making her comments about how certain people just make this forum a dreadful horrible place to be. I didn't do or say ANYTHING yesterday without making it clear I was kidding or joking around and yet the conflict that was started by another person is my fault because I was here yesterday. That is the crap I am talking about.

-- Posted by NickeyB63780 on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 8:55 AM

Right Melange that is what I thought also is that you disagree with the STATEMENT but it seems when you mention the person who posted it all of a sudden its a personal attack. You get what I am trying to say?

-- Posted by NickeyB63780 on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 8:57 AM

Right and I would say that no matter who made that statement. I know I too have gone too far sometimes. but as I said I apologize for it too when I do.

In the same aspect I could have just copied and pasted that comment and people would have known who posted it and that could have been seen as a personal attack. What I guess I should have said the STATEMENT was too much and went to far and that needs to be addressed.

-- Posted by NickeyB63780 on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 9:06 AM

Anyway you get what I am trying to say

Basically that with some people it is a lose-lose situation.

I know you aren't taking up for her I am just trying to get an understanding as to how to address a statement I disagree with so that it won't come off like a personal attack.

-- Posted by NickeyB63780 on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 9:12 AM

Nope you didn't offend me I value your opinion or I wouldn't ask for it :)

-- Posted by NickeyB63780 on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 9:14 AM

Morning all

Me'Lange

I know what you are trying to say. Fot the most part I ignore a certain individual when I can......and I have agreed with her on a fw occassions BUT as they say you can say whatever you want about me but when you start in on family that is a different story. SHE made it personal when she atacked calling soldiers whiners because they asked for help. BUT I will try to be nice and remember what you have said. Notice the keyword TRY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Kingskid

Now as far as yesterday. You can go back and read other days and everyone in here has tried to get along with a certain individual. Some have supported her and are now being attacked by her. Did take it to a personal level yeah probably so but only after family started getting insulted. Now as far as her name goes it had already been posted on here if it hadn't been then I wouldn't have said what it was.

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 9:22 AM

Semoangel that's my keyword too TRY. To bad sometimes it get lost. LOL

-- Posted by NickeyB63780 on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 9:25 AM

I guess I am not understanding a few things about todays posts. If someone feels like Babe is personally attacking them, wouldnt the best thing to do is ignore and/or not acknowledge her presence on these posts. If you think she is being personal and dont engage in what you think is over the line behaivior, then most likely her credibility will diminish. Also, as far as releasing real names: If I dont want someone to know who I am on here, then I refrain from engaging in "personal chat" and "giving personal details" about my life. People are bound to put 2 and 2 together to figure out who the poster may or may not be. Just food for thought

-- Posted by luv2argue on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 9:29 AM

Nickey

Funny thing when my kids say they will try I tell them to try harder! Man this is gonna be hard but I am not making any guarantees to anyone.

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 9:30 AM

Not to bring up a sore subject, but could someone here please define for me a "gentlemen's war" or "real men's war?" I don't like to debate if I am unsure of the definitions of the articles being debated. I would like to add that I had 3 brothers and 2 BILs & my FIL who served in the military and my son is currently doing BT. Five of these individuals during the Vietnam Era (which I think is the current PC term for this). When one of my brothers returned home from his first tour in Nam, he was spit upon by a person in a Chicago airport. (Not sure of which airport). IMO, the people who served our country (regardless of whether I agreed with our reasons for being there) deserve our respect. They are doing their jobs. When Desert Storm began, I remember listening to people begging others to support the troops & President Bush. My statement was, "I don't care if you support the President or not, just support the troops. They are the ones doing the work." I still feel the same way. Don't spit on the people who are doing their jobs trying to protect our nation. If you don't agree with our being in the Middle East, that's fine. Just don't spit on the people who are serving their country.

One of my brothers admitted he had some deep emotional problems after being in Nam. My FIL would not speak of this time there for years. He did do an interview with my son for a history project after about 35 years, but I think this also affected him deeply. The facts that he revealed were very eerie, if not frightening. Neither of these men are whiners.

Enough said.

-- Posted by motrans on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 9:31 AM

superbee

I can see your point. If you read back through though many times Babe will come out and fly off attacking someone then when the person will ask her a question she ignores it. She jumped all over Nickey one day for being pregnant and telling her that was what she got for sleeping with her husband. Yesterday before I snapped on her i had given her every opportunity to clear up some of her posts that I was unsure about and yet she kept digging herself in deeper. As I told Me'Lange when you attack my family it is different. A few of the posters who use to support her are now finding out what she is like and even one of them snapped on her yesterday.

I try to keep things from being personal and will ignore a lot of things but attacking our veterans and current soldiers calling them whiners etc that was to much.

I AM TRUELLY SORRY FOR THE INNOCENT BYSTANDERS IN HERE THAT HAD TO HEAR ME YESTERDAY but I am not sorry for calling someone out who is about as unsympathetic, unpatriotic, and closed minded as they get.

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 9:37 AM

motrans

We tried last night to get that definition which is why things got so hot in here. All of them fighting are real because I am sure it is REAL blood that comes from them when they are wounded and REAL families left behind to grieve when they don't come home.

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 9:40 AM

I'm putting this to rest today.

"Babe has gone too far and needs to be repremanded." This statement has nothing to do with the actual issue, thus is a personal attack. She had/has the right to offer a different opinion...no matter how far out there it is."

Yes, and folks who post on here have a right to use whatever avatar they want without someone coming into the forum and making it "publicly personal" when they could have emailed the person and gave them a reason why it was offensive.

It sure would be nice if you practiced all this "better than thou" attitude compared to how you preach it. It's not up to you to filter out every little thing offensive to you! That's the Missourian's job.

An offensive avatar compared to some of the crap that's been spewed out on this forum are equals. If you're going to defend babes comments that offend others, then how can you "personally" attack someone's avatar that offends you??? Bigotry, plain and simple bigotry.

-- Posted by """""""""""" on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 9:49 AM

Semoangel

Me either everytime I say I am gonna ignore and behave its like someone intentionally does or says something to tick me off!

-- Posted by NickeyB63780 on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 9:57 AM

No matter what I am in a good mood today and intend to stay in a good mood!!!!!!!!! I hope.

Hiya Jerry glad to see ya back!

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 10:00 AM

Nickey

I know but it I will try. Guess could always go to talking about the weather when they irritate me on second thought nope that agravates me to!

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 10:02 AM

well there's always baseball and apple pie!

-- Posted by NickeyB63780 on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 10:03 AM

Treatment of Pets

I agree. We are constantly seeing on the news where someone has called the Humane Society because there are horses starving, dogs running loose, etc....it is so sad. Why do people have pets if they are not going to take care and love them? I have two dogs which I treat like my own children. When I have to get on to one of them I feel so bad afterwards like I have commited a crime. I don't know how people can abuse their pets or force them to fight. We do need stricter laws. I look at my dogs like my children. If I were to take two kids and have them fight in a ring and see who would win, I would for sure go to jail for a good period of time. I just don't understand.

-- Posted by lovemyfamily on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 10:04 AM

Nickey and I just have to say this

WE BEAT SCOTT CITY LAST NIGHT IN BALL!!!!!!!! The Scott City team had not been beaten and we finally beat them now tonight is the championship for 1st.

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 10:04 AM

Who's the coach for that team Semoangel. I may be happy about it depending on that little bit of info LOL

Seriously though Way to go!!!!

-- Posted by NickeyB63780 on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 10:06 AM

survivor

My husband says I pay more attention to the animals in the house than I do to him. My response.....they act better!

I agree with the comment though. Animals are helpless and have to depend on their owners for everything if you don't want the responsibility then don't get a pet and it is more than feeding and watering them there is also the time to train them, play with them trips to the vet etc. i often say our dogs are more expensive than the kids but I wouldn't give them up for anything.

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 10:07 AM

My husband calls him Tank when he is flapping his jaws at him so I am not sure. just know he has an attitude and is a very sore looser.

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 10:08 AM

Wow! Some of you folks are really thin-skinned!

-- Posted by RocketSurgeon on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 10:12 AM

Thanks angel. I just needed to get a few things off my chest. I think it was pathetic some of the statements that were made in here yesterday about soldiers serving post WWII.

Funny, you have to walk on pins and needles when picking an avatar, but if you're BABE you have Carte Blanche to say whatever you please. It's a great life if we don't weaken...isn't it?

Anyways...I'll be limiting my postings and ignoring the "trouble makers" like they were never born (my choice) So *****, prod, and provoke all you want. I'll be recording all the posts from day to day from now on and taking note.

-- Posted by """""""""""" on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 10:14 AM

Its not about being thin skinned its about being tired of being named the agressor day in and day out when you just post on here plain and simple.

-- Posted by NickeyB63780 on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 10:18 AM

prudentdriver,

What is your avatar? It looks like some type of sea urchin to me. Do sea urchins need to be legalized?

-- Posted by SWBG on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 10:19 AM

The Decider just finished a news... ahem (propaganda) conference. He says he and Team America's North Korean arch enemy Mr. Lonely, aka Kim Jong-il, are going to start making nice. All this comes about when the war drums are beating loudly for the coming attack on Iran.

Bush, knowing that a growing number of Americans are waking up to the fact that he can't or won't tell us the truth, is trying to show us that he is always willing first to talk things out with anyone in the axis of evil.

Bush is trying to fool us today by implying that he is willing to talk with Iran, just like Korea, to work things out before he bombs the hell out of them.

Bush doesn't want to negotiate with Iran. He wants to make Iran do his bidding. It's not just Bush though. He is being told what to do by the demons above him who want the New World Order that his daddy talked so lovingly about. Iran is one of the last countries standing in the way of that goal.

-- Posted by Thought Criminal on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 10:20 AM

Got to do what you got to do Jerry just glad you are back among us. Some of us did miss you.

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 10:20 AM

SWBG

LOL yeah sea urchins LOL sorry not laughing at you just at the sea urchin thing. I never really realized until then how much the two look alike! You think the cops would buy that its not what you think officer its a sea urchin that doesn't have to live in the sea LOL

-- Posted by NickeyB63780 on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 10:22 AM

Semoangel - thought you & I could be friends, but since I saw the comment about SC, doubt it. (J/K) I graduated from ISC. Who is this coach you find so offensive and to what age group are you referring?

-- Posted by motrans on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 10:23 AM

Nickey

Some of the cops around here probably would!

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 10:24 AM

motrans

It wasn't that the coach was a bad guy he really isn't and he and my husband no each other but after he had had a winning season and then to loose in the tournament I think it got him a bit. The team was the SC cardinals as we are the Chaffee Cardinals and it is the 7-8 year old kids. I just feel he took it a little to serious considering they are just kids and in my opinion at this stage it is more about having fun and learning the game than being perfect.......But my son did hit a triple last night which totally amazed me considering he did it one handed and wasn't paying a bit of attention to what he was doing.

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 10:27 AM

LOL I know of at least one Scott City Cop that would buy into it! I can say that cuz I live here and grew up here and my mother graduated from there as did my dad.

Motrans when did you graduate? You may know some of my peoples! My whole family grew up here!

-- Posted by NickeyB63780 on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 10:28 AM

My husbands parents and aunt and uncles all graduated from SC as well. Of course that was back in the day when they walked uphill both ways to school in a foot of snow.

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 10:29 AM

Off Topic just a little bit

Those of you going to Lunch on FRIDAY how does Buffalo Wild Wings sound for a little change of pace???

-- Posted by NickeyB63780 on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 10:32 AM

OK, giving my age away rather quickly, I graduated in 77 when it was still ISC. I only went to school there for 3 years, but if you'd been there a couple of weeks, you knew most everyone.

-- Posted by motrans on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 10:35 AM

You remember anyone with the last name of Brown graduated in 78 or Jones Graduated in 75 and I forget my uncle's graduation year but his name is Wally Jones

-- Posted by NickeyB63780 on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 10:38 AM

Sounds good to me Nickey if the others agree.

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 10:39 AM

IMO , using your real name is no big deal .

i try not to let aggravating posters get under

my skin ...

there's two ways to get attention , do something

good or do something bad..either way works .

i sometimes wonder if certain poster(s) use

the bad to get attention...

-- Posted by ..Rick on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 10:47 AM

School Torn Down: And you have had how many opportunities over the years to take a picture of the school? Seriously.

Here's Why: Some good points. However, much of the runoff stems from impervious surfaces, (roofs, roads, parking lots, etc.). A good example is the front page story of the Walden development. They boast about how natural it is, but the photo shows concrete streets and traditional storm drain systems. If it is so cutting edge and "master planned", why did the designers not use bio-retention areas for runoff, and the fairly new technology of pervious street surfaces. They could have had zero runoff, eliminated the need for the storm drainage system ($$$) and saved a bundle on infrastructure costs. Oh, well, same old, same old, in the box designing.

-- Posted by Hawker on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 10:50 AM

I hope this won't get me banned from here, but HOLY ****. I kissed your uncle once, if it is the same Wally Jones (like there could be more than 1 from SC.) As I recall, he married an Ava somebody. The only Brown's I remember from 78 are Brenda & Rhonda. Had to look in the old yearbook for a Jones from 75, but saw a Vickie. Didn't know her, though. I think I saw your uncle at our 10-year reunion. Didn't kiss him then, though as I was a newlywed. What is he up to nowadays?

-- Posted by motrans on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 10:52 AM

rick

Good point. I guess when you live a life with no friends then you do whatever to get attention and for some even bad attention is better than good. At least that is my opinion on it. Of course I am not saying I am innocent nor will I ever bee 100% innocent!!!!!!!

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 10:53 AM

Rick,

You should have been a therapist. The worst thing you can do to an attention seeker is to ignore. Attention is attention whether it is positive or negative. When the goal of misbehavior is attention the true attention seeker will gladly take negative over none at all.

-- Posted by SWBG on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 10:53 AM

LOL yeah that's my uncle Wally alright. Rhonda is the Brown I am referring to that's my mother! and if you recall Wally's older brother Chuch that would be my dad LOL that's too funny!

-- Posted by NickeyB63780 on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 10:54 AM

motrans......Nickey

what a small world it really is

Did you by anychance know any of the Koch clan from SC back then.

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 10:56 AM

My mom mentioned one guy she would have graduated with that died in a Motorcycle accident I can't remember his first name I wanna say Jeff but I am not 100% on that. She knows more than I do I will ask her when I call her later on.

-- Posted by NickeyB63780 on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 10:58 AM

Nicky & Semoangel - there were 2 guys from SC class of 78 that died in accidents. One was Jeff Hutchison who died in a motorcycle accident. The other was Robert Koch. I am not sure if this was a motorcycle accident or not, but think it was somewhere between Kelso & Benton. I had driver's ed w/Denise and knew of Ann Koch, but didn't REALLY know either of them well.

-- Posted by motrans on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 11:03 AM

Nickey - I used to work w/your mom & her sister at Hardee's on Broadway back in HS & college I think.

-- Posted by motrans on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 11:05 AM

Nickey - I used to work w/your mom & her sister at Hardee's on Broadway back in HS & college I think.

-- Posted by motrans on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 11:05 AM

Robert Koch was a car accident and it was a cousin of my FIL I think some kin anyway......Ann I think is Angie seems like I have heard her called Ann not sure and that is hubbies aunt. Most of the family graduated in the 60's except for Angie and she is only in her late 40's maybe 50's

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 11:09 AM

That's where the Jeff and the Koch comes in! Its been awhile since I looked through any of her year books really.

The sister was it Teresa? Sounds about right I remember her saying something about working there and Taco Johns

-- Posted by NickeyB63780 on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 11:10 AM

Totally off subject here but does anyone know of anyone in the area that does addittions on houses that doesn't take forever

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 11:16 AM

Nickey - YES!! Her name was Teresa. I could not remember her name.

Semoangel - I think the Ann that I knew of would have graduated in 79 or 80, which would make her about 47 or 46.

-- Posted by motrans on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 11:18 AM

Jackson burning

Ahhh, poor guy. I guess everything would have great and the second coming of Christ would have happened if it wouldn't have been for those insensitive a$$holes burning trash. Grow up, if your night is ruined by smelling burning paper you need a hobby or you just need to ********...or both. I happen to like going out to my yard on a nice night and burning boxes supplemented with the massive amount of wood I have left over from the ice storm, and letting my daughter roast marshmallows, if you don't like it move somewhere that isn't a hick-town as you so eloquently put it

School torn down

Ummm, they did let the public know. I graduated 10 years ago and I knew. They don't need to come everyone in the county's house and tell them. Don't get upset with others because your ignorant

And as for BABE. I'm gonna have to agree with Rocket Surgeon on this one. It seems you guys have some thin-skin. In one breath you say that she incites hatred and riles everyone in the forum up, then in the next breath you say she is sometimes dumb , un-american and her posts hold no water. Well, its one or the other. If she truly doesn't have a shred of credibility left them her stupid accusations should have no effect on you, whether she's talking about the man on the moon or a family member. Oh, and this is all just my opinion.

-- Posted by Producer1 on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 11:19 AM

Jackson burning

Ahhh, poor guy. I guess everything would have great and the second coming of Christ would have happened if it wouldn't have been for those insensitive a$$holes burning trash. Grow up, if your night is ruined by smelling burning paper you need a hobby or you just need to ********...or both. I happen to like going out to my yard on a nice night and burning boxes supplemented with the massive amount of wood I have left over from the ice storm, and letting my daughter roast marshmallows, if you don't like it move somewhere that isn't a hick-town as you so eloquently put it

School torn down

Ummm, they did let the public know. I graduated 10 years ago and I knew. They don't need to come everyone in the county's house and tell them. Don't get upset with others because your ignorant

And as for BABE. I'm gonna have to agree with Rocket Surgeon on this one. It seems you guys have some thin-skin. In one breath you say that she incites hatred and riles everyone in the forum up, then in the next breath you say she is sometimes dumb , un-american and her posts hold no water. Well, its one or the other. If she truly doesn't have a shred of credibility left them her stupid accusations should have no effect on you, whether she's talking about the man on the moon or a family member. Oh, and this is all just my opinion.

-- Posted by Producer1 on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 11:22 AM

And the both of them look alike (or so I am told) I don't see it but that's of course because I see them all the time. Rhonda is about to move on down to your neck of the woods if everything goes as planned

-- Posted by NickeyB63780 on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 11:22 AM

producer

i guess the thing with Babe is no one likes her so we tend to let her get to us. Sorry but that is the way it is. i have agreed with some of her posts sometimes she does make sense.

motrans

That would be about right because I know she is just a few years older than my brother in law and he is in his early to mid 40's.

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 11:23 AM

Way off topic: The Supreme Court overturned, despite Bush's objections, DC's ban on small firearms. The Court ruled that possesion of firearms is not limited to militias, that individuals have the right for self protection and hunting.

-- Posted by BCStoned on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 11:26 AM

*news alert*

Watch your stocks! Market's tanking today!

-- Posted by """""""""""" on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 11:31 AM

*news alert*

Watch your stocks! Market's tanking today!

-- Posted by """""""""""" on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 11:31 AM

James,

I have been reading the SCOTUS blog and some of the key elements of the decision and while I am glad the accepted the "Individual Rights" approach, it appears as though they are leaving a pretty good sized opening for "reasonable restrictions". What one sees as "reasonable" another might not. Many thought the Clinton/Brady Bill was a good idea and many feel licensing is a good idea which I do not. I guess only time and more lower court decisions and challenges will tell, but it could have been so much worse.

-- Posted by Red_Rhino on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 11:32 AM

I enjoy my discussions with Babe. Sometimes she comes a little over the top, but we all do at one time or another. I'm not necessarily defending what she says, I'm defending her stating her position. If her position upsets you, ignore it.

-- Posted by BCStoned on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 11:33 AM

Totally off subject....BUT, can anyone tell me the best pre-school around the area for a 3 year old????

-- Posted by Universal_Turner on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 11:35 AM

Its not her position that is upsetting its how she says it. Just like I know I too can be that way but I will apologize and say that I didn't mean for it to come across as offensive. She never does ever its like she wants us to be offended for attention. She has never once apologized for anything even when she has crossed the line tremendously one something she has NO BUSINESS SAYING!

-- Posted by NickeyB63780 on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 11:38 AM

jojo

what area Cape, jackson surrounding area?

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 11:38 AM

Nickey - to what part of the state? I am currently in the DFW Metroplex area.

-- Posted by motrans on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 11:42 AM

James

As I have said there are times when babe will be discussing something and she is pretty close if not on target with it. She has also made some good points as well. But she goes back and forth when it comes to our troops and her support that is what got the fire a burning. You either support them or you don't....that is a personal choice for all to make and all have their own view.......but you can not say you support them and then call them whiners because they get help with the mental issues the war brought out. That is an insult to those that have sought out help and to the families of the ones who are dealing with it. Yes could ignore it but i feel owe it to my family in that position and all others to at least point out they are human after all and as humans we all need help from time to time.

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 11:43 AM

Bryan/College Station. or around there anyway. Nothing is set in stone yet (not to be mean but I still hope she doesn't move)

-- Posted by NickeyB63780 on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 11:44 AM

Red_Rhino: It is possible that they threw us a piece of scrap and I bit on it, and that scrap may be meant to satisfy my hunger for a time.

I never could understand why a tool is considered a danger to society and have to be restricted. It looks like to this old hillbilly what should matter is what that tool is used for.

-- Posted by BCStoned on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 11:45 AM

Me"Lange

"God grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change; courage to change the things I can; and wisdom to know the difference." PS Please give me the wisdom and strength to ignore attention seekers. :-)

I have a magnet with that on my fridge......well minus the addittion. I love it.

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 11:50 AM

I grew up in DFW. My dad lived there for years.

-- Posted by Producer1 on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 11:55 AM

Producer

Can you burn all your trash in Jackson or is it just yard waste and things like that. I know here we can't burn trash trash but limbs, grass, big boxes etc we can.

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 11:57 AM

James,

I agree and while I am glad the ruling came down as it did, I would have preferred broader protection and less of an opening for restrictions on possession and ownership as the Miller decision is also mentioned as having been legitimate, a decision which is really hard to understand and which in my opinion was poorly handled.

-- Posted by Red_Rhino on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 11:57 AM

Semo,

As far as I know its just the things you mentioned, yard waste, boxes, an ungodly amount of wood from the ice storm, things like that.

-- Posted by Producer1 on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 12:04 PM

Indeed it is Prudentdriver...a very fine kona,perhaps

"northern lights" or some other high quality specimen!

-- Posted by GREYWOLF on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 12:11 PM

JoJo check resource and referral, they have a listing of the daycares around here and what ages they accept. 290-5571

SemoAngel

I'm glad I'm not the only one that treats their dog like a child. I love my puppies and they are helpless without us. I wish I had more time so I could volunteer at the Humane Society however working one full-time job and one part-time is enough for now, plus that would take time away from my babies. I still don't see how that guy got out of his dogfighting charges when all the proof was there w/o the court being at the fights. It just doesn't make sense.....he must have had a lot of money!!!

-- Posted by lovemyfamily on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 12:13 PM

semoangel

I received three mysterious and thinly veiled threatening calls in the middle of the night. I think your posting of my real name on this forum was dispicable.

For the record, I have never revealed my real name. Matt Sanders has admitted that it was revealed to Jerry Swan in an email.

Again I will ask....if you or others don't care if your real name is known....then why don't YOU post under your real names?

-- Posted by BABE on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 12:14 PM

producer

well then IMO I think it would be more of a hillbilly town to have it all thrown around the yard than it is for people to care enough about their property to burn it. Guess will have to buy them all some nose plugs so they dont have to smell it.

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 12:14 PM

Nickey,

BWW is fine with me.

One thing we all need to try to remember is that everyone has an off day(s). Something happening in the real world that effects their tone when posting here. I've had my days, hell, probably more then I care to remember, but it happens. Not defending anyone, but sometimes things just aren't let go of. Little digs to bring back old greivences serve only to gratify the poster. Again, as Greywolf can attest to, I am guilty of that as well. And freely admit depending on which side of the fight I'm on, I can take pleasure in some of the personal attacks. Doesn't make them right, just admitting to being guilty of it myself and not always being mature.

Well, just my opinion what ever that is worth. Still stand on the fact that for the most part, we are different in person then what we appear like in here. Not saying our posts aren't who we are, just that in 'real life' maybe not as bull headed. I know I'm nicer in person. LMAO

-- Posted by Pups on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 12:21 PM

survivor

From the understanding i got from a friend in that area he got out of it one for testimony and two they didn't have the actual evidence on him they had on the others. Not really sure what the deal was. One of our dogs we actually got from the humane society the other we bought but they are both spoiled rotten. The cats as well.

Babe

Don't blame me for you getting phone calls. ANYONE can go back a few days and see your name all over speakout. If you don't want calls get an unlisted number.

And for the record i think Me, Nickey, Instructor, Jerry, pups and several others have posted our names.

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 12:22 PM

Pups,

I think I am a little nicer and more considerate of how I come across in person too but face to face you have facial expressions that you don't have on here.

Straight outta the box oh well

-- Posted by NickeyB63780 on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 12:23 PM

Pups

Ok will TRY to behave

I am just as stubborn and bullheaded in person just ask the hubby or kids!

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 12:26 PM

Nickey,

That is so true. As we have all said, some things are lost from intent to typing. You have no idea how nervous I was to come face to face with Aggie and Twiggy. Thought we wouldn't be able to agree on anything but the fact that the sky was blue. Turns out they are great people and we aren't as different as our post made us out to be.

-- Posted by Pups on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 12:28 PM

Nickey

Since i have offended the all mighty *grin* We could always get pups involved in our early discussion about men to keep tempers down!!!!!!!!

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 12:28 PM

Semo,

Mmmm you bull headed??? Think of you more of the Momma Bear,, kick back willing to let others do their thing, but killer when kids (family) are concerned. :-) That in no way is intended as a bad thing.

-- Posted by Pups on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 12:33 PM

semoangel

Post your real name again, please?

-- Posted by BABE on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 12:35 PM

Nickey,

BTW,,, talked to another family member of yours at work. Remind me to ask you some questions at lunch. lol

-- Posted by Pups on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 12:35 PM

Babe ,

this is my legal name , i use it

everyday ...what's the big ordeal

with real names ?

-- Posted by ..Rick on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 12:35 PM

Pups

Pretty much true. Say or do anything you want to me i will argue the point but that is about it mess with my kids or my family and well then I do tend to get a little riled up.

Well be back later hubby called and wants to have lunch so headed to the port to see how bad the flooding is there.

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 12:37 PM

Oh, Babe.

I see after lots of time away, you are still up to your old tricks. You truly cannot play nice or get along with anybody, can you?

-- Posted by cliff_icp on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 12:39 PM

Pups is absolutely correct.We all have an off day or something occurs that can shift a mood.One of those days was happening to me today.Then something happened that removed my negativity.Sometimes it really doesn't

take much.In this case it was prudentdrivers avatar!!

I have calmed down considerably since seeing it!!

-- Posted by GREYWOLF on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 12:40 PM

Gonna get some things done around the house before work. Be back on later (as I always am lol)

James Nall,

Still would be interested on your take on part of the topic from yesterday. If you would rather not, just let me know and I'll leave it alone.

-- Posted by Pups on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 12:41 PM

Testing, testing.

Yup. Think I'm in. Looks as though the Psych Ward is up and running again today.

Note to Webmeister: Why do I have to log-out/back in every freakin' day?

-- Posted by Herr_Hauptmann_DES on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 12:48 PM

Herr,

It will be the settings for your internet browser. It is set not to store cookies.

If you make this site trusted, could fix your problem without going through long details.

P.S. Switch to FireFox!

-- Posted by cliff_icp on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 12:52 PM

Koh_Cliff:

Thanks. I'm not much into 'puters, but my Mule's computer geek friend did come over and performed some kind of weird magic(?) with the cookies thing. What's the big selling point about FireFox? I think he took that out too.

I suppose I need to shelf my mild contempt for these computer things, and sneak a bit further into the 21st century!!

-- Posted by Herr_Hauptmann_DES on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 1:02 PM

Still throwing my name around and making accusations I see. Some people never just let it go. I sure wished that some concerned posters would report the perpetrator for still using my name in the forum.

-- Posted by """""""""""" on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 1:07 PM

Firefox, where should I start? Here are the things that I like about it:

Password: unlike IE, it will remember usernames and passwords and you can put a master password on firefox to keep people from using it.

Tabs: tabs are much better than IE, download the TabMixPlus plug-in and you will fall in love.

Add-Ons: So many to choose from, so little time.

Themes: My Firefox is so pretty compared to IE.

Firefox Options: Easy to navigate and written in English, not 10100010101 (programmer joke)

Display: Firefox actually displays the webpages the way they were written. IE does a "smart" display, which means it displays the page the way that Microsoft thinks it should.

I could keep going but I don't want to come off as a geek!

-- Posted by cliff_icp on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 1:10 PM

Justice has been served.

-- Posted by Justice2 on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 1:16 PM

Poppa

As I said before I respond to a statement not a person and get called out for a personal attack. I ask a question and once again jumped on. I am so glad all of you can throw stones as if you are so friggin innocent to have never gotten into it with ANYONE!

-- Posted by NickeyB63780 on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 1:21 PM

poppa

Contrary to what most folks think, I do NOT have the intent to be provocative nor insulting. I merely state my opinions.

-- Posted by BABE on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 1:22 PM

Oh and Poppa you may want to see who was most offended by that. Technically I didn't say anything other than she offended Many OTHER people with that statement yesterday go back and read that. Second only ONE PERSON resorted to name calling yesterday as well and it just so happens to be the same person that is in here today accusing people of making threatening phone calls.

-- Posted by NickeyB63780 on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 1:25 PM

http://www.semissourian.com/apps/pbcs.dl...

-- Posted by BABE on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 1:26 PM

Pups Do I really wanna know I think I am scared! I guess it really all depends who it was as to whether or not I will claim them too LOL

-- Posted by NickeyB63780 on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 1:26 PM

semoangel

I got one of my puppies from the humane society and the other is a full breed. they are so cute together even if one weighs 50 pounds and the other 2.7 pounds. The are so funny to watch play. The little one loves to bother the big one and bite him. Sorry I love my dogs way to much. Now I feel like a mom that just talks about her children.

Have a great day!!!

-- Posted by lovemyfamily on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 1:33 PM

Sorry Poppa but I really am sick and tired of no one calling her out on what she says that is wrong however everyone that calls her out gets called out and called childish. I can take the heat just fine but all I am saying is those that are innocent of all wrong doing can cast the first stone ya know. We all have bowed into the pressure a time or two so for just a few to get singled out is kinda wrong

-- Posted by NickeyB63780 on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 1:36 PM

KoH_Cliff:

Again, thanks. Sounds interesting; I think I had some of that stuff before our geek friend made some changes I wasn't aware of. Even so, I'm still using tabs, but if I tab up different pages of this paper's site, I still have to go through the same drill on each page. Maybe I'd best think about recalling him...and this time watch what the heck he's doin'!

I'm really not that turned off about computers. I've mentioned before that it's just that I had some rather nasty experiences with 'em over twenty years ago with those danged IBM punchcard type monsters (almost even got a free trip to Leavonworth once!), so have just sorta resisted getting back up to speed with these contraptions...not to mention bonking my head too much over them!

-- Posted by Herr_Hauptmann_DES on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 1:38 PM

And at least you and I are adult enough to apologize when we know we've offended someone else. Sorry again I just thought that one might understand a little better with an explination. I did come off as heated and tense but I am far from it and I sincerely apologize. I am just fine and hunky dory :)

-- Posted by NickeyB63780 on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 1:38 PM

Nickey

Would you just please go away and let us have a civilized discussion on any topic? I tire of your sophomoric comments.

-- Posted by BABE on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 1:41 PM

So Anyone else joining for lunch tomorrow???

Babe there is plenty of handicapped parking at Buffalo Wild Wings if you would like to join us. We normally start around 11 am.

-- Posted by NickeyB63780 on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 1:42 PM

Aggie/Twiggy Update for those interested:

They are doing good miss almost everyone and should be back this weekend! And one or both are going to try and make it for lunch next Friday also they will know more when they get in!

-- Posted by NickeyB63780 on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 1:46 PM

Pups Melange and Semoangel;

If you all are going to lunch on friday which I do believe at least two of you are, there is another person interesting in joining us and also burying the hatchet if you all don't mind, Its completely up to you all but I was asked to throw that out there. Let me know please.

-- Posted by NickeyB63780 on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 1:55 PM

Poppa

That is why after all that I still found it in myself to woman up and extend the invitation to lunch. You too are welcome Buffalo Wild Wings in Town Plaza Friday 11AM.

Contrary to popular belief I'm not all that bad shoot Aggie even likes me and tells me so sometimes!!!

-- Posted by NickeyB63780 on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 2:00 PM

I will do my best remember the laugh first trick. Who knows that just might do the trick.

-- Posted by NickeyB63780 on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 2:02 PM

No problem Poppa and like I said who knows I just might surprise you! Honestly though EVERYONE is invited and they do have special accomodations (sp?) for those that need it!

-- Posted by NickeyB63780 on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 2:15 PM

poppa

I see and fully understand what you are saying and I will be the first to admit I can be a little thin skinned at times. So now I will be nice and from now on ignore every comment made by a certain poster and will not even read them instead scroll past. I will do my part now can she?

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 2:24 PM

semoangel I think that both of us can do it. Look at so far today I haven't said a word in response directly. Besides its gets too bad just email me and get it out that way LOL

-- Posted by NickeyB63780 on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 2:31 PM

Nickey

It is pretty bad if my kids were doing it they would be sent to their room and then I do the same thing. Good thing they don't know it...........lol. But I will stick to my plan and see how it works.

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 2:33 PM

Me'Lange

If you would e-mail me I have some questions for you? nothing mean just need some info. semoangel70@yahoo.com

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 2:36 PM

Melange

Please don't take this as taking sides because I'm not at all but in all fairness he did say he was wanting to put it to rest today when he posted this morning. However because I respect the both of you I see both sides and understand you both.

-- Posted by NickeyB63780 on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 2:37 PM

I think we are all adult enough to sit down and have a nice lunch in a public place! Might not act like it on here but we can be.

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 2:47 PM

Me too

-- Posted by NickeyB63780 on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 2:48 PM

Pups: I had a discussion of why I hate war with my nephew last week. His being Jewish may have something to do with his support of the war in Iraq. After discribing my dealings with war, he understood why I'm so against war. I'm a strong believer in self defense only.

The feelings of war never leave. I think about the families that we shelled. At first I was excited standing with the captain and watching the explosions, but then it dawned on me, these were people's lives that we were taking. I never looked at the explosions again.

-- Posted by BCStoned on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 2:50 PM

Melange

I'm sorry that's not what my intentions were at all. oh nevermind.

-- Posted by NickeyB63780 on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 2:58 PM

Imagine that, the SCOTUS finely came to the conclusion that the Second Amendment is an INDIVIDUAL right, not a collective.

This is truly a momentous day in the history of the United States.

I'm sure B. Hussein Obama will make tell us how wrong the Supreme Court was. Too bad, lib boy.....

-- Posted by Instructor_aka____________ on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 3:01 PM

Instructor

Are you back or still out east?

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 3:09 PM

Poppa, you seem to be quite interested in death threats. Would you like to receive one? LOL.....

Might I see you at lunch tomorrow?????

-- Posted by Instructor_aka____________ on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 3:10 PM

Yes, I'm back. Mission complete.

-- Posted by Instructor_aka____________ on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 3:11 PM

Melange

I never said he WAS coming he ASKED first to make sure it wouldn't be awkward which apparently it will be so he won't go plain and simple.

-- Posted by NickeyB63780 on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 3:12 PM

Head count who all IS going to lunch tomorrow?

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 3:16 PM

By the way glad you are back Instructor as I am sure you are as well.

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 3:19 PM

semoangel, I have a quick question or two for you. You posted:

Babe

Don't blame me for you getting phone calls. ANYONE can go back a few days and see your name all over speakout. If you don't want calls get an unlisted number.

I read SpeakOut every day and missed what you're talking about. Can you be more specific?

Also, Babe accused you of posting her name here, and I missed that as well. Where did that supposedly happen?

I've been reading here since the online forum began but try to refrain from posting too often. This confused me though & I hope you can help me out.

-- Posted by justsayin1 on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 3:24 PM

I don't think the lunch belongs to any specific individual. In the past, the Queen Bee had an issue with another poster, and decided to take the reins of the group and move it to another dining facility, because she was having problems with that poster as well. Kind of a pattern if you ask me, but...I'm not one to judge.

I've always been amicable at lunch and in fact have been the one to acknowledge that we leave our differences in the forum at the door. Even though I have chomped bits with Instructor, we had a very amicable lunch together. I've stuck my hand out, I've apologized to whom I feel I need to apologize too, and that's about all I feel is needed on my behalf.

Additionally, I've had some hang-up calls in the past, (including a call from an elected official that I feel was provoked by a poster in this room, and even had a candle sign stolen off my car. While I could point fingers...I certainly wouldn't have made the "suggested" accusation to anyone in the forum. While I'm no youngin', a lot of you have 10, 15, and 20 years on me. I'd expect more tact than the childish behavior that has pinned upon me.

-- Posted by """""""""""" on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 3:27 PM

justsayin

I can not remember dates but it was about 2-3 weeks ago and things got heated between babe and another poster who did know her identity. She called him out by name dared him to post her name and he did. Then for several days some referred to her by her name instead of babe.

Yesterday when things got going she had really got under my skin as well as a few others and one asked her name and i told him. That I will admit to. I know I should have been the bigger person but she really irritated me.

Hope that helps some.

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 3:31 PM

Joe_cool

I for one have no issue with you coming to lunch after all it is the time out and having a good conversation that matters. I still need to have a chat with you anyway about your wife sometime we never have got around to that.

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 3:35 PM

Thanks angel, I was thinking about you the other day myself. I had some MS stuff to ask you too.

-- Posted by """""""""""" on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 3:40 PM

You can ask here, e-mail or at lunch it doesn't matter I will answer.

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 3:42 PM

I have been reading SO and your comments for a few days now. It is very entertaining and I look forward to your debating and fighting. I do have one question though - where do you people work that you can spend HOURS online each day posting comments? I would like to know so I can get a job there.

Also, maybe the seMissourian just needs chat room. Then the SO site could be dedicated to the SO topics and you could all fight somewhere else.

-- Posted by Marvelous on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 3:47 PM

Marvelous

Thankfully I have a husband with a very good income so I work when I want to and only for a few hours a day

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 3:50 PM

Semoangel: What a blessing that you are able to stay home! Very cool.

-- Posted by Marvelous on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 3:53 PM

Marvelous. I love your sun avatar! Though some of those praying for rain may be offended. j/k...sorta lol!

-- Posted by """""""""""" on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 3:54 PM

Marvelous

Yes i am very fortunate especially with kids I am here when they need me but at the same time I did work but do to health reasons I can no longer work in the area I was trained for and personally although not old i feel I am to old to go back to the headache of school to learn something else.

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 4:04 PM

Joe

No rain for a few days please...........we have a ball tournament to finish tonight and I have two kids at camp right now that wouldn't welcome a storm and a swimming party for my sons ball team saturday so after that let it rain.....lol

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 4:06 PM

Semoangel - I understand not wanting to go through school again. I have some college completed, but haven't taken classes for so long that I dread going back to finish. Especially because I don't think I want to pursue what I started with...starting over with a new major isn't very appealing. It especially with the cost of college - who wants to pay for classes when they aren't sure what they want to do. :)

-- Posted by Marvelous on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 4:09 PM

Exactly and besides our oldest will be starting college in three years and considering she wants to be a lawyer guess we need to save all we can for her!

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 4:14 PM

I can do with out the rain myself. LOL keeps me from mowing the lawn as frequently.

-- Posted by """""""""""" on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 4:20 PM

Joe

well I get out of it because as you know heat is not my friend but we have a son who still thinks mowing is fun so that is now his job.

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 4:29 PM

Marvelous,

I work evenings and my boss allows me to be online at work. Not available to all where I work, but since I work in the department that I do, I can post when ever the mood hits. Which as you have probably noticed is alot.

-- Posted by Pups on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 4:33 PM

Pups

are you coming to lunch?

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 4:35 PM

Joe,

Correction, three of us decided to move ourselves to another eatery. Was not just one person's decision. Please have your facts before you accuse.

-- Posted by Pups on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 4:36 PM

Pups,

Just reiterating the facts as they were explained to me from the other side.

-- Posted by """""""""""" on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 4:39 PM

While we're on that though. It was brought to my attention that "two" of you are all that's left now. I was asked if the rest of the old crew still attended. My response was "What old crew?"

Informant then said, "Ha! I guess they got tired of her too."

-- Posted by """""""""""" on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 4:43 PM

Boy oh boy. Pups if you could come to lunch tomorrow that would be great you can tell me which relative of mine you spoke with so I can tell you if I claim them or not. If you don't I understand.

-- Posted by NickeyB63780 on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 4:44 PM

Angel,

Yes. the heat is not a big favorite in this house either. It's never cold enough. She's lucky though, I'm not a fan of the heat either. lol!

-- Posted by """""""""""" on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 4:45 PM

Nickey and Semo,

I have every intention to attend lunch tomorrow at BWW if that is still the place.

Joe,

The 'old crew' that was mentioned to you was that person's old crew not ours. They were invited to join and did a few times. We assumed they had gone back to lunch at the original because of location being closer to where they worked, not because of our company. If they are not back at the other as well, might want to look to your source.

-- Posted by Pups on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 4:49 PM

Pups

what few lunches I have made I have enjoyed our conversations as with the others so hope to see you there, if not as Nicky I understand.

Joe

the thermostat stays at 64 here and if anyone touches it they know I get very cranky!

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 4:50 PM

Ok Pups we will see you there round 11ish! I will get a final head count tomorrow so that way we can get a table big enough for all of us. I gotta go time to punch out and see my niece!

-- Posted by NickeyB63780 on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 4:51 PM

Joe,

And the one that was lost out of the original 3 has stated that it is because of work. Whether or not that is fact true I can not say. But, for the record, my attendance at lunch is not limited by anyone and I plan on being there tomorrow.

-- Posted by Pups on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 4:51 PM

Well, I'm not going to get into another tiff. This has never been about anything I have against you, because I don't...and I think you know that through my email correspondence with you. I'm just saying, I have two sides now.

-- Posted by """""""""""" on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 4:55 PM

Pups

Glad you are coming will see you there.

i have an uncle that works there but not sure when or where......know Charlie Ward?

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 4:55 PM

lol...Angel, ours has to stay at 65. High utility bill? Yep...we do! lol

-- Posted by """""""""""" on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 4:57 PM

Joe

If he can spend 3 and 4 hundred on tools then I can spend it on an electric bill......besides after he is out in the heat all day he likes the house cool anyway.

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 4:59 PM

Joe,

Understand, and there are always two sides. Nothing personal either, just was trying to correct misinformation. And being one of the "original 3" thought clarification of events was in order. (0k, my version of events. lol)

-- Posted by Pups on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 5:02 PM

Hey! Those floods are caused by global warming you closed minded Republican! Haven't you read the newspapers?

If you'd stop driving your SUV and buy a hybrid, we wouldn't have floods!

You can't simply use physics and logic to solve a problem. There are social factors to consider.

We need to tax everyone, especially the oil companies and other big corporations, so that natural disasters will stop.

Sad part is that many lunatics, looters, and moochers actually believe what was just said above.

-- Posted by uberfan20 on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 5:04 PM

Pups, glad your still coming tomorrow. I'll be a tad bit late. I have training at the library til 11am tomorrow, so I'll late.

-- Posted by """""""""""" on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 5:09 PM

justsaying

ChaffeMp

Suzanne Graham.......check back a week or so it was posted on here by her.

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Wed, Jun 25, 2008, 4:40 pm CDT

This poster is a liar. I never posted my real name on this forum.

-- Posted by BABE on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 5:11 PM

where was global warming this past

January when i was freezing my you

know what off ??

-- Posted by ..Rick on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 5:22 PM

Thanks, Babe, but I was talking to semoangel. After reading your comments, particularly the ones with incorrect "facts" (as you call them) like those you posted about VietNam vets yesterday, I have a hard time believing anything you say. As my name says, just sayin.

-- Posted by justsayin1 on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 5:26 PM

Joe

Would love it if sometime your wife could come to lunch or maybe a dinner. Would love to compare notes so to speak.

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 5:29 PM

School torn down

Shame. For shame. Does anyone really talk like that anymore? If it's that big of a deal, I guess I'll refrain from p*ssing on the ashes. Got more important things going on like the flower pots downtown. OOOOOO that's a nailbiter of a news clip. I think I saw a drunk toss his cookies into the one in front of Buckners.

Done with sandbagging.

-- Posted by fajar154 on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 5:31 PM

fajar,

Though I may not always agree with your perspective, I do so enjoy your comments. Hope you and the family are doing ok.

-- Posted by Pups on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 5:33 PM

Pups

See i am doing what I said I would do!

By the way....have a bunch of old stuff here that grandparents brought over from Germany from during the war when get done with it if you are interested i will bring it your way. Some pretty interesting things in it so far. Old journals from great grandfather during the war grandma from the camps etc.

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 5:37 PM

semoangel70 - all of the regulars here, know how that went down (Who said what and when - and we know you are not a liar and you corrected yourself earlier). You're doing a great job of not letting yourself get pulled back into it (even though an attempt has been made to "get" you to react). Nice job.

-- Posted by DickCheney on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 5:47 PM

Semo,

Would be very interested in viewing the items!! My grandmother distroyed alot of the things that would have been 'frowned' upon by the incoming Allies. And yes I noticed. lol

-- Posted by Pups on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 5:49 PM

Dick

I admit it was my own fault for letting her get to me. But as you said I did correct it even though out of respect I will not repeat what I said. And hey it does work great scrolling right on past but have to laugh she can call me a liar all she wants but I know what I am and so do those who know me soooooooooo.. I am going to behave though from now on *grin*

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 5:51 PM

Pups

Most of the family did not know these items even existed we stumbled on them by accident when finally settling my grandmothers estate. I think you will be amazed at some of what is there I know I have been and I wasn't even a history buff.

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 5:54 PM

semoangel

You're hiding. If you post another's real name on this forum...you should do the same for yourself. LOL

-- Posted by BABE on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 5:54 PM

well off to the game catch ya later

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 5:56 PM

Semo,

Enjoy the game, stay cool, and hope they win.

-- Posted by Pups on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 6:00 PM

Instructor

Yes, it was sweet to hear of the SC ruling. Thank goodness for Scalia.

-- Posted by BABE on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 6:00 PM

James Nall,

Sorry I almost missed your post. I appreciate your response, and can understand where you are coming from. Thank you.

-- Posted by Pups on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 6:05 PM

I certainly hope that this site becomes/remains less acrimonious as I have noticed quite a few posters whom I found very interesting and informative have just stopped posting. Of course some have just changed "identities", but I know some have just given up. I am not addressing anyone in particular and am not saying a "heated exchange" is always bad as some on here whom I admire and find very interesting have become involved in them. Usually everyone "kisses" and makes up with no harm done or grudges being held. I would hope that this does not continue to be a "free fire zone" with individuals hesitating to state their opinion for fear of being caught in the cross fire. Like I said; not pointing fingers as I am sure that can easily go both ways. Not meaning to preach and hopefully this makes sense and does not offend anyone; not my intention.

-- Posted by Red_Rhino on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 6:08 PM

A.P.B. for G-Mom:

Hey, Maw, are ya out there anywhere? Maybe you're busy patrolling the halls of "the Ward" with your paddle at the ready to employ on the bottoms of some recalcitrants. On second thought, perhaps you're still recovering from that stupor resulting from your wild and crazy binging yesterday!

Ah, gee, Mom...just kidding. Mom? No, really, I was JUST KIDDING!! Now, then. Just lower that paddle and slowly back away...would appreciate it if you'd dim down that glare too!!!

Anyway, I just wanted to get back to ya on a couple of posts you made in the last day or so. I haven't bothered to take a dip in the bog much lately, other than to log-out/in, and didn't spot your "sanity balloons" today. After all, it's been a little smelly lately in what S-Bethie accurately dubbed the "cesspool", plus it's hard to navigate with some of the floaters bobbing about! So much so that even the Coast Guard is reluctant to patrol here; however, they may consider landing some Marines on the beaches to mop up some of the riffraff! Oh, well, I'll pop the periscope up now and then later to see if you're lurking about.

-- Posted by Herr_Hauptmann_DES on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 6:13 PM

It is very easy to call someone an as*hole, jerk, commie, socialist, etc when on a forum such as this. It is another thing to do it face to face. There are VERY few folks who I have had conflicts with that I would confront face to face.

The people who met me at lunch a few weeks ago don't think I am the "monster" many portray me to be and I certainly don't think they are crazy. Misguided (LOL) maybe, but not crazy. We all have our opinions on the way we think things should be. Some of us are very passionate about our side, others are just spectators willing to throw in a comment once in a while.

-- Posted by Instructor_aka____________ on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 6:21 PM

all this talk of spicy food, now I'm in the mood for a 5 alarm sandwich from the Pilot House. lol

-- Posted by """""""""""" on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 6:23 PM

Dick, when are you going to start joining us at lunch? Also, I'd like to meet SWBG and Greywolf sometime and cipher some of their culinary knowledge.

-- Posted by """""""""""" on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 6:26 PM

Instructor, you forgot that most undignified of terms, liberal. LOL!

-- Posted by """""""""""" on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 6:27 PM

Perhaps it is just my age, but I would never say anything to anyone on any forum that I would not say to their face; not saying I am right and others are wrong as we are all different. Many of you are probably familiar with the concept of "personal and professional face". My job required a much different "professional face" than my "personal face", but since I retired I left it at the office. Again, not knocking or judging anyone.

-- Posted by Red_Rhino on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 6:32 PM

I know I've now funkeled, but I do want to add that I was also pleased with the SC decision.

-- Posted by """""""""""" on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 6:33 PM

Joe_Cool,

I too was pleased with the SC decision, I just wish it had not been a 5-4 decision and would have gone a little further as it still leaves a lot of room for more "sensible" gun control laws.

-- Posted by Red_Rhino on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 6:37 PM

Red Rhino

...

I agree. I would never say anything on this forum that I would not say in person...face to face....but I am very selective of who I want to meet. Some on this forum are mentally unstable.

-- Posted by BABE on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 6:42 PM

Instructor:

Welcome back. I'm not so sure G-Mom even wants to take a dip in the bog today, so I wanted to ask you a question or two before I submerge.

I fully understand that the fun-loving folks at DES cannot include you in their "festivities" at the moment, due to your present status here in the local arena. They do, however, permit those they have an interest in partake in some, how should I say, "seminars", at other op areas. Therefore, while you were out east doing your military mission duties, did you happen to take them up on any of their advanced track-&-ground training sessions? Just for fun & non-profit, of course.

Some of their stuff is not only interesting and fun, but can hone that fine edge for when the flag goes up. Just curious.

-- Posted by Herr_Hauptmann_DES on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 6:42 PM

Red Rhino

I'm pleased with the decision as it takes it out of fed control and places it in states rights.

-- Posted by BABE on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 6:48 PM

Babe,

Heck, a lot of us are probably a little "unstable" in one way or another if someone looks closely enough.

-- Posted by Red_Rhino on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 6:50 PM

Babe,

I am all for states rights, but philosophically I am opposed to "gun control laws" agreeing with James Nall in that guns are inanimate objects. I also agree with the following quote I think I have used previously:"Good people do not need laws to tell them to act responsibly, while bad people will find a way around the laws."

- Plato (427-347 B.C.)

-- Posted by Red_Rhino on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 7:02 PM

Instructor: Although todays ruling seems to be a victory on the surface, but IMHO we better not pop the champagne corks just yet. The decision was 130 pages. I haven't read it all yet, but I know how those people operate. Anytime the MSN says something is a victory for the people, look out. It could be a back-handed victory.

I hope you are right,but I don't think they said anything about governments making it less difficult to buy a hand gun. Gun ownership should be made easier not harder. If they still allow strict regulations we haven't won much.

-- Posted by Thought Criminal on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 7:58 PM

Prudent Driver

Mmmmmmmmmm...Bubblegum

I haven't smoked weed for a few years, but I think it should be legal for adults. Alcohol, which is a poison, is legal, but pot is not. Go figure.

****** NELSON: "I think people need to be educated to the fact that marijuana is not a drug. Marijuana is an herb and a flower. God put it here. If He put it here and He wants it to grow, what gives the government the right to say that God is wrong?"

Amen ******

-- Posted by Thought Criminal on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 8:05 PM

prudentdriver

I have never revealed my real name, but if YOU have no problem with it....what is your real name? LMAO

-- Posted by BABE on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 8:09 PM

W.i.l.l.i.e Nelson. Geeez

-- Posted by Thought Criminal on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 8:10 PM

"......would appreciate it if you'd dim down that glare too!!! " Sorry, Herr. Actually, that's Mom's "Icy Glare." See, the thing is...the children and Pops, especially, can verify this...When Mom gets really, really angry (and/or upset), she gets really, REALLY quiet...accompanied, of course, by The Glare. Then when she stalks away, that means...whatever has been done/said is beneath dignity or comment.

Nevertheless, your comments, as usual, brought smiles. You should be writing a monthly column for some of the boring magazines being published!

uberfan & Rick: "where was global warming this past January when i was freezing...?" That's why the name was changed to "Climate Change." I read that those awful dinosaurs were even contributing to "global warming," by, um,defecating in the Forests? LOL Gotta love all those Global Warming folks jetting all over the world to tell people that we're causing the problem by...ummm...driving? ;-)

Good comments, as usual, Red. I cannot HELP myself, but do a lot of chuckling while browsing around in here. No kidding, I get a kick out of the "we're going to ignore so-and-so" and then keep mentioning them!

BABE: That's been my personal policy ever since I grew up and realized I didn't HAVE to associate with people I don't care for (well, okay, in the workplace I had to). I have this bad habit of speaking my mind, too...but Herr is helping me a LOT to get over that! LOL

KingsKid: I'm trying, honest--to pull away from the computer. And I apologize for any slights that I might have posted yesterday...which, incidentally, were never meant to be targeting anyone specifically, just the whole tenor of what was being posted.

-- Posted by gurusmom on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 8:10 PM

God Bless W i l l i e Nelson,

However God put lots of things on this earth. He placed that darned ol' apple tree right there in the garden of eden and as humans we screwed that up too.

-- Posted by SWBG on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 8:20 PM

For all you folks who think it is fine to reveal a person's real name, however it is obtained, without their permission...just line up and post your real name on this forum.

I'm willing to bet that it will be a short line.

giggle

-- Posted by BABE on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 8:30 PM

If I didn't want my name posted, I wouldn't have dared someone to post it.

giggle

-- Posted by DickCheney on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 8:33 PM

Poppa, BOO!

Is that enough of a threat for you? By the way, thanks for the compliments.

Now I have to go take care of the wife again. Been gone for almost three weeks and I have to make up for lost time. Not planning on beating her, BUT she will be making some noise. The good kind that is.... :-)

-- Posted by Instructor_aka____________ on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 8:57 PM

The line starts here with posters who want to reveal their real names instead of 'outing' other posters who wish to remain posting under a screen name.

-- Posted by BABE on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 8:58 PM

Poppa, I would like to invite you to lunch so you can call me a piece of sh*t to my face.

Would love to meet you sometime.

-- Posted by Instructor_aka____________ on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 9:04 PM

Feel free to come up and call me a POS to my face. While you are at it, have the balls to ATTEMPT to physically assault me if you see fit.

-- Posted by Instructor_aka____________ on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 9:11 PM

Mary Jo,

You asked first so I guess it's you. hehe

-- Posted by Pups on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 9:18 PM

Infowarrior, I agree with you on several points concerning today's SC ruling. The one major thing this accomplished was establishing the Second Amendment as an individual right.

Our firearms rights have been eroded through years of legislation based on the premise that the Second Amendment was a collective right. This ruling will set the ground work to challenge many of those laws.

It took years to take away our rights and it will take many more to get them back from the urban socialists.

-- Posted by Instructor_aka____________ on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 9:20 PM

Gee leave for a bit to go watch a game and come back and it is the same old thing......lol

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 9:21 PM

Instructor,

Did you notice that those (in Washington) for and against the ruling are from both sides of the political aisle? Find it extremely interesting that this is one nonpartican issue. Or so it seems to me. And again for the record, don't own a gun, didn't grow up in a home that allowed guns, and don't care if you carry/own one as long as you don't shoot me. :-)

-- Posted by Pups on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 9:23 PM

Semo,

Did they finish/win? Or did it get rained out?

-- Posted by Pups on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 9:24 PM

pups

It just started raining here so they got to finish and we lost by one run. It was a good game though and the kids were just as happy with the second place trophies they got and that is all that matters to me that they had fun.

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 9:29 PM

Yes Pups, that is why I made the comment concerning the urban socialists. The Second Amendment has traditionally been supported in the rural areas with widespread support from both Dems and Repubs.

The urban socialists (the very folks who need handguns) are the ones most likely to support very restrictive gun control legislation. For the life of me, I can't understand how they could be so **** stupid.

-- Posted by Instructor_aka____________ on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 9:31 PM

Semo,

Hope they always have fun with the game and never take it to seriously. Or maybe I should be wishing that for parents???? lol

-- Posted by Pups on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 9:32 PM

Instructor,

But I'm one of those urban socialist, well I used to be before moving out here to the country LMAO. Just razzing ya.

-- Posted by Pups on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 9:35 PM

Pups

We have a few parents that took it a little to serious but for the most part it was fun even for us. I always tell my kids I don't expect them to be a superstar i just expect them to do their best and have fun. So far it works.

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 9:35 PM

Go ahead and tell everyone where you think I have been poppa.

You just proved you know NOTHING about me. I haven't held the rank of Specialist for more than 15 years.

-- Posted by Instructor_aka____________ on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 9:37 PM

Semo,

Thats good to hear. I know from experience that sometimes the 'sport' child gets more attention then the 'grade' child. Even as Adults.

Ooops,, TMI?? lol

-- Posted by Pups on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 9:38 PM

We're still waiting for you to tell everyone where I was for the last 18 days....

-- Posted by Instructor_aka____________ on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 9:41 PM

Oh, wait a second. I know! You have know **** idea where I was!

That's it.

In the interest of OPSEC, I did not reveal where or what our mission was during the cycle. Of course that is all over now, so go ahead and let everyone in on the secret.

-- Posted by Instructor_aka____________ on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 9:47 PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyber-bully...

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,3156...

Be careful what you wright because... to quote a great philosopher...juneverknow...(Jaquin Adujar)

-- Posted by SWBG on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 9:53 PM

Listen dumbas*, you obviously think I am a junior enlisted member of the Missouri National Guard. You also assumed I was sandbagging somewhere up north.....

I was in Ft Lee VA and am a senior NCO instructor in an Army Reserve Quartermaster training BN.

You were so far off the mark, it was becoming quite humorous. Just like MJB, you THINK you know, and in reality, you know NOTHING.

-- Posted by Instructor_aka____________ on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 9:58 PM

Wow, what an agressive day on here. Sort of reminded me of my last two marriages except I get to keep the shirt on my back.

I wish all this energy could be directed at our elected officials local, state, and federal, to keep them in line. We need to hold their hoofs to the fire and make them represent us. It is government oppression and predictive programming by their think tanks and tax free foundations that keep us commoners at each others throats. Meanwhile, they are picking our pockets.

I 'm here in Texas, but let me play Rodney King and see if we can't figure out a way to just get along.

Here is my idea: Prudent Driver, you can bring a bag of those Bubblegum flower tops and let everyone share a bowel or two before you have lunch tomorrow. Everyone will be too mellow to fight and those chicken wings will taste like Ruths Cris Steak.

-- Posted by Thought Criminal on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 10:02 PM

On to something more important.....does anyone on this forum think the Supreme Court was incorrect in their ruling today?

If so, why???

-- Posted by Instructor_aka____________ on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 10:03 PM

Woops, meant share a BOWL or two.

-- Posted by Thought Criminal on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 10:09 PM

Instructor,

What are your thoughts on that guy in Texas who shot and killed two guys trying to rob his neighbors home after he called 911 and they told him to stay inside and wait?

-- Posted by SWBG on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 10:12 PM

Here is the link...I think to the video from Nightline.

http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?...

-- Posted by SWBG on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 10:14 PM

Thanks for the correction Info...way too many diseases out ther to share bowels with anyone!

-- Posted by SWBG on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 10:16 PM

Larry Pratt of Gun Owners of America thinks that some government officials will carry out what he calls "vicious compliance". This means that they will still make it difficult if not impossible to buy a gun in some locals. They will put up more bureaucratic hurdles.

He said that while the ruling was somewhat comforting, it left the door open for more infringement.

I am still reading the ruling, but at over 130 pages it is unusally large even for the supremes.

-- Posted by Thought Criminal on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 10:26 PM

Right you are SWBG. We wouldn't want good old Cape Girardeau ending up like San Francisco.

You already have a cool looking bridge like they do, but let's just keep it at that. lol

-- Posted by Thought Criminal on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 10:31 PM

SWBG, just last year we passed a "castle doctrine" law similar to what you were seeing in the video in Texas.

It all sounds good to me and should make criminals think twice before infringing upon someone's property in the middle of the night.

I fully support the castle doctrine law.

-- Posted by Instructor_aka____________ on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 10:44 PM

I can in no way post intelligently regarding gun control one way or the other. However someone else posted that this ruling would indeed take some of the contol away from the federal government and place it with the States. Of course the states cannot limit rights beyond the scope of the federal government.

It does appear to me that this is one area the pendulum is swinging back the other way. I base this on mostly that gun control laws, rightly or wrongly, are generally viewed as a failure. Now Instructor reports it is the urban liberals who push the agenda. Perhaps that is true but obviously he has not grown up in that arena which itself can be quite influencing.

My point being if a local wants gun control in their area...ie Washington DC. Who cares for the rest of us? They vote their officials in just as we do.

-- Posted by SWBG on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 10:45 PM

I do not have a problem with the castle law doctrine. In fact I thought that always existed. That dude in Texas was trying to protect someone elses castle. Slippery slope perhaps.

-- Posted by SWBG on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 10:48 PM

The "local officials" cannot pass laws usurping the Federal laws. You pointed out that yourself.

Would it be OK if local officials in Cape Girardeau took away a woman's right to vote? Of course not. The Constitution will not allow it.

-- Posted by Instructor_aka____________ on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 10:51 PM

The castle law is working the way it should. It would be a travesty if the grand jury indicts Joe Horn. If he is indicted, I don't think he will be convicted. Here in Austin, his support is about 100 to 1 in Joes favor.

As the economy keeps going south, there will be more and more break-in attempts. We have so many illegals and others who don't respect private property in Texas, that it would be a field day if we didn't have this law. I would do the same thing if someone was breaking into my neighbors home.

Here is a Houston Chronicle article from today. Read the citizens comments to see what I mean.http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metr...

-- Posted by Thought Criminal on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 10:53 PM

G-Mom:

Ah, shucks Maw! Just when I fired up the 'puter, a crack of thunder blasted overhead right when I spotted your balloons, so had to shut down again...'cause then it really hit the fan out here. So now I probably missed ya again, as by now you've probably started nipping at that one (albeit no doubt mongongous) nightcap I believe you've talked about before!! Ah, sometimes I'm still tempted to dip my beak in one too! Even that bunny milk looks good sometimes.

Anyway, I just wanted to tell ya, if you wander back into the bog tonight, that I really got a hoot out of one of your posts yesterday. You know, where you described my duties as a bunny-baby nanny? Wow, can you call 'em dead-on! Yup, laying on the floor after bottle-feeding/wiping is part of the drill too. Mule & I close off the hallway and just let the herd stampede around. Then I lay down and they mob my face, nibbling on my mustache...I guess that qualifies as bunny kisses!~! Of course, then they have to climb all over me and, yeah, make a few unsolicited "deposits" while they're at it!!! Have to take this "abuse" several times a day, but gotta admit it's kinda fun...sorta. At least I don't have to worry about saving up for college tuitions, marriages, etc!

Oh, and also wanted to say that a little nagging now and then can actually be a good thing, at least when you do it. Now when Mule partakes of said nagging...well, that's another matter. Anyway, your gentle "prodding" for me to ******* my duff and stop procrastinating about a certain project may pay off, perhaps tomorrow. What the hey, I keep shelving the idea thinking things may improve...but nah, may be a good time to make a mess. We'll see!!

I don't hear as much thunder now, so maybe I should get back to pondering my "project" and, of course, the next feeding frenzy! G'night.

-- Posted by Herr_Hauptmann_DES on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 10:58 PM

Oh, for Cripes sakes, I forgot. "Get...off" is a nasty. I should be flogged!

-- Posted by Herr_Hauptmann_DES on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 11:00 PM

Instructor,

I understand that but what is appropriate in DC may not be appropriate in Cape.

Info,

For the sake of argument, how far does ones neighbor exist? Is it next door? Two houses down? Around the block? Can I roam the streets looking for thugs to shoot saying I am protecting my neighbor if I catch them in a criminal act?

-- Posted by SWBG on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 11:00 PM

It doesn't matter if it is appropriate or not. If it is unlawful, it is unlawful. Doesn't matter what the majority wants.

The "majority" in Chicago also think that handguns should be illegal, but does that make it right? NO.

By the way, a lawsuit challenging the Chicago ban was filed today. Let the fun begin.

-- Posted by Instructor_aka____________ on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 11:05 PM

SWBG and Dru

From my time spent in the area and what I know statistically Washington D.C. has been the hub for liberal politics. On the flip side of that those in, around, and throughout the nation know The District of Columbia to have maintained one of the highest crime rates in the nation, even with the ban on firearms. The fact is, hardened criminals will always find ways to obtain illegal weapons.

The only way to prevent this would be to remove all weapons from the country, but nothing is fail safe in that either. The fact is, I'd rather take the chances of having more weapons in circulation, than give the government the ability to disarm it's citizens.

Frankly, in lieu of the WOT, I was more fearful of the opposite decision. Washington D.C. is an odd animal, when I lived in D.C., the motto on the license plates was "Taxation without Representation." Considering DC has a population of nearly 600,000, it's kind of one of those things that make you go....Hmmm.

-- Posted by """""""""""" on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 11:06 PM

Herr,

When are you coming to lunch so I can meet you? Are you and Guru married?? I must have a mean wife, if carried on like you (you make me laugh) my wife would beat me like a wicked step-child.

-- Posted by """""""""""" on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 11:09 PM

I think that Mr. Horn's defense is that he felt threatened. The 2 criminals were in his yard after breaking in to his neighbors house. Some say that he thought that they were coming to break in to his house next. This will be an interesting case to follow if he is indicted. There is no way he will be convicted in Harris County Texas.

I love what this guy said in their version of speak out:

I will never understand people who think stuff is worth more then a human life. But if they think so and are willing to risk their life to get to my stuff, I'm armed and willing to agree with them. ;-)

-- Posted by Thought Criminal on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 11:10 PM

Instructor,

Not necessarily disagreeing with you just giving you some debate. For that matter in Roe v. Wade the Supreme Court has legalized abortion. Can not states limit that? The citizens of Missouri are often different from California. It is indeed complicated and to throw it in black and white terms is not that simple.

-- Posted by SWBG on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 11:15 PM

SWBG,

Sheesh, looks like I'm the weird animal here. Pro-Gun and Pro-Choice. I guess I'm one of those Republicrats that people complain about. LOL

LOL!!! You'd think that with my party crossing politics, I'd be supporting McCain. LOL!!! Ohh I just had to say that.

-- Posted by """""""""""" on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 11:20 PM

Joe,

I am more srewed up than you. I believe in some limited gun control. Mostly in not wanting felons with crimes against people and dangerously mentally ill allowed to possess guns. I also am adamantly pro-life. To me that means against the death penalty as well. I never really can find a place to sit at the political table.

-- Posted by SWBG on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 11:25 PM

SWBG,

I don't think we're alone. One of these days we'll have a Presidential Candidate for each American citizen. I wonder where they'll get their multi-million dollar war chests then? My candidate will lose, I'm a PO' Boy from Missouri. LOL

-- Posted by """""""""""" on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 11:34 PM

SWBG: Perhaps we need our own table? But then, if word got out about it, would have to scrounge up a lot more tables. ;-)

-- Posted by gurusmom on Thu, Jun 26, 2008, at 11:37 PM

Semo, I like your avatar. That monkey (the one on the right) must feel humiliated. Believe me, I understand.

-- Posted by iago1 on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 6:43 AM

Churchill vs. Nazi-socialism

Reagan vs. Soviet-socialism

Bush vs. American-socialism, Enviro-socialism AND Islamic-terrorism.

Historically one could argue that W is the greatest leader in history.

The only monkey close enough in comparison is King Kong.

-- Posted by uberfan20 on Fri, Jun 27, 2008, at 2:50 PM


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