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Wednesday, June 18, 2008

Sealing the roads

AFTER NEARLY 40 years of eating dust, it is sure a beautiful sight to see the crews sealing the county roads again. Thanks to all who supported the road improvements.

Delivery costs

I AM one of Carly Wilson's delivery drivers. Her analysis of where the gas crunch leaves our business is quite accurate. On an average closing shift, I will use half a tank (about $22) worth of gas and recoup about $15 in gas reimbursement. While we appreciate our customers and take pride in offering great customer service, we drivers can't afford to be out of pocket for gas. We don't make much money, but my wife and children rely on that small extra income to pay our bills and buy food. I would ask our customers to consider that when they put together the money to pay for their order. Another way our customers can help is to contact our corporate offices and ask them to help us. We are grateful for all of you and pleased to serve you. However, when we go out-of-pocket for gas, we must start considering alternative second jobs. Our beloved customer base will have to come get their own food soon. We drivers simply cannot afford to pay for the gas. Carly has done all she can to ease our burden, but only corporate officials can alleviate it entirely.

Global takeover

THE LIKELY of Missouri Gov. Matt Blunt, other politicians and thousands of ordinary Missourians to save Anheuser-Busch from a takeover by a foreign concern exhibits the total abandonment of the long successful America First foreign policy for one of globalization, a bankruptcy brought about by the dastardly deeds of both major political parties. We are governed by a duopoly.

Class work, not gym

WHY DO school officials bother to have summer school in the Scott County Central School District? The high school students spend the majority of their day in the gym. Are they really that driven to win in basketball that we have basketball summer school? My daughter comes home every day talking about what fun they had. Shouldn't they be in class?


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Class work, not gym

WHY DO school officials bother to have summer school in the Scott County Central School District? The high school students spend the majority of their day in the gym. Are they really that driven to win in basketball that we have basketball summer school? My daughter comes home every day talking about what fun they had. Shouldn't they be in class?

LOL At SC they tend to let the kids watch movies all day summer school is just a free babysitter IMO

-- Posted by NickeyB63780 on Wed, Jun 18, 2008, at 7:55 AM

Delivery costs

I keep this in mind anytime I order take out. I could get my lazy butt up off the couch and go get it but THANK YOU for what you do!

-- Posted by NickeyB63780 on Wed, Jun 18, 2008, at 7:56 AM

http://www.semissourian.com/apps/pbcs.dl...

This story is just too funny. I have never heard of an attack snake.....well not a trained one anyway

-- Posted by NickeyB63780 on Wed, Jun 18, 2008, at 8:00 AM

good morning

re:Sealing the roads

...just wondering what they are using to

seal those county roads with ...maybe it's

better off not to be known -- there's some

mighty nasty 'waste oil' out there ......

-- Posted by ..Rick on Wed, Jun 18, 2008, at 8:13 AM

Good morning Rick! Considering this is Cape County we're talking about I would have to say the crap spewing out of the commission meetings would be a good guess...

-- Posted by NickeyB63780 on Wed, Jun 18, 2008, at 8:21 AM

morning all

delivery cost

that is why if I am in a mood and to lazy to go get it I will tip the driver that delivers, if everyone did this then they would make back their gas cost.

Summer school

lets see my kids walked to the ice cream place twice, went to a movie in Cape, had a water day, play day and the summer school was only 16 days so not a lot of time for learning especially when they only went 4 hours a day. Besides if your kid gets in trouble the school does not have to let you know because it is a privledge for them to be there......just ask the Chaffee Elementary principle she will tell you....the old bat.

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Wed, Jun 18, 2008, at 8:24 AM

Morning Semoangel how was ur fun water day at the pool!

-- Posted by NickeyB63780 on Wed, Jun 18, 2008, at 8:25 AM

Greed and Wall Street has taken over this country. Everything American is for sale to foreign countries including our beloved beer..lol............ Speculators have run the price of crude oil to over $150.00 and going higher, its only paper to them.

If 'W's' stimulus checks were such a good idea, why didnt they increase it to $10,000.00 each and the country would be out of recession. JMOP.

-- Posted by changedname on Wed, Jun 18, 2008, at 8:28 AM

Nickey

We had a blast and the kids even managed to leave some water in the pool!

Today we are packing up and heading to St Louis going to the zoo, then tomorrow Six Flags and then Maramec Caverns Friday. Should be an interesting trip with our three brats plus a friend each for them but I have the Valium on hand and a BIG bottle of Exedrin.

Sorry to hear your mom has decided to go ahead and go to Texas, that has to be rough.

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Wed, Jun 18, 2008, at 8:33 AM

Yeah it sucks but she's gotta do what she's gotta do and I can always visit her! She'll be up here for Trever's birth though and I really really want that because I don't think my hubby will stay upright when the tough gets goin! I need her here then way more than she knows she keeps me grounded.

There's always phone email and internet chat though when I want to talk to her!

A shot or two (or beer) will help the Excedrin kick in!

-- Posted by NickeyB63780 on Wed, Jun 18, 2008, at 8:36 AM

Being an hour away from my mom is hard enough, although at times I think it is to close! I am sure she will keep the highway on fire with the trips back and forth. I know my mom was there when all three of ours were born I would have hated to go through it without her even though hubby was great.

Now as far as the shot or two. forget it just give me the bottle and I will be fine!!!!!! Actually the kids are all pretty good kids and figure a friend with them will help keep them occupied better than their siblings as they all think fighting is much more fun. It is the husband I am worried about because at times he is worse than the kids!

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Wed, Jun 18, 2008, at 8:41 AM

Well EVERYONE have a good week and don't run each other off. Time to load up the car and hit the road and hope that I have some sanity left when get back.

-- Posted by semoangel70 on Wed, Jun 18, 2008, at 8:43 AM

Have fun Just tell the hubby like I do if I wanted another kid I would have had more! (can't say that anymore myself it backfired LOL)

-- Posted by NickeyB63780 on Wed, Jun 18, 2008, at 8:44 AM

The snake thing is pretty funny! You have to wonder if he was on something.

Summer School in Jackson is very educational and still fun. I taught there a few days last summer. It was nice and I think most of the kids enjoyed it and still learned a lot.

-- Posted by lovemyfamily on Wed, Jun 18, 2008, at 9:22 AM

Re: Chaffee Summer School

I donít know much about the summer school program at Chaffee, but I am absolutely with you on the principal. I have never Ėnot even once- met anyone who was in her favor. She is rude, and a smart *** who thinks she knows all. Just ask around....

-- Posted by Universal_Turner on Wed, Jun 18, 2008, at 9:23 AM

I'm beginning to wonder if Chaffee and SC don't have the same principal or is that a requirement to be one???

-- Posted by NickeyB63780 on Wed, Jun 18, 2008, at 9:59 AM

LOL @ attacking snake ....

-- Posted by ..Rick on Wed, Jun 18, 2008, at 10:29 AM

Wow. Nearly 40 years of eating dust you think that guy would have closed his mouth by now.

and an attack snake. LOL I didn't think snakes could hear...I could be wrong. How do you get threatening a police officer for that? Maybe he did something else to warrant that charge.

-- Posted by Producer1 on Wed, Jun 18, 2008, at 10:44 AM

Personally I find public stupidity a crime but that's just me ya know

-- Posted by NickeyB63780 on Wed, Jun 18, 2008, at 10:47 AM

Attack Snake,

Mmmm sounds almost as realistic as playing fetch with a cat. I know mine would be like, "Ummm how do we do this? Why don't you go get it and show me. Nope, didn't get that, can you go get it again?? Really?? That's how you play this game? Show me a few more times I'm not getting it" (Stupid human!!) LMAO

Hope all are doing well this fine summer day.

-- Posted by Pups on Wed, Jun 18, 2008, at 10:49 AM

Personally I find public stupidity a crime but that's just me ya know

-- Posted by NickeyB63780 on Wed, Jun 18, 2008, 9:47 am CDT

If only we could convict people of this, there'd be a prison of every steet corner and ALOT less traffic LOL

-- Posted by Producer1 on Wed, Jun 18, 2008, at 10:51 AM

Nicky,

Glad you decided to stick around. I tried to email you twice, but my email messed up. Will try again later.

Oh and I did read that baby is a Trevor. Though thinking Michael might be a better name. Yeah that's the ticket, Michael Trevor Lee. Or since Bethie and Mr Super didn't go for the 'Catholic name', it's still available. hehe

-- Posted by Pups on Wed, Jun 18, 2008, at 10:52 AM

Producer,

Great idea, but the only problem is we would lose all politicians to the new law. We would have to start from scratch. Oh wait, on second thought, could work. haha

-- Posted by Pups on Wed, Jun 18, 2008, at 10:55 AM

Pups it was probably my email it filters out bad words and sends them back LOL silly language filters

-- Posted by NickeyB63780 on Wed, Jun 18, 2008, at 11:00 AM

Producer

I don't think that there are that many that WOULDN'T get arrested!

-- Posted by NickeyB63780 on Wed, Jun 18, 2008, at 11:01 AM

I think that summer school benefits new students that just moved into the new school district. They get to know the school without all the trafic.

-- Posted by BCStoned on Wed, Jun 18, 2008, at 11:07 AM

Bad morning all. Thought I'd be a bit of a maverick and break away from the herd!

Global takeover:

Gee, it looks like Tyranny_in lieu of_Liberty managed to get one into SO despite a Busch stupor! Speakin' of SO, not much to dip in the coffee today.

-- Posted by Herr_Hauptmann_DES on Wed, Jun 18, 2008, at 11:18 AM

Yup. My log-out/log-in routine 1st thing each a.m. is still working. Anyone else still having to do that every dang day? Oh, well. Just part of the routine now, as long as I get it done before the coffee hypes set in!

-- Posted by Herr_Hauptmann_DES on Wed, Jun 18, 2008, at 11:21 AM

Herr , every day i gotta log in too ...

mayhaps they don't trust us..??

-- Posted by ..Rick on Wed, Jun 18, 2008, at 11:38 AM

Summer school,

It's just a free babysitter for part of the summer and the school gets extra money if they hold these classes. Sounds like a win-win situation to me. My daughter is going to the one in Oak Ridge, in fact today is her last day......It looks like I'm gonna actually have to do some parenting. CRAP

-- Posted by Producer1 on Wed, Jun 18, 2008, at 11:39 AM

Global concern: Anheuser-Busch is a foreign concern, it located in St. Louis, I live in Bollinger County. What difference does it make where or by whom a product is made as a consumer as long as it meets the demands that you place on it.

-- Posted by BCStoned on Wed, Jun 18, 2008, at 11:41 AM

Rick.Scaggs:

Let me ask you: Would YOU trust a coffee-crazed guy like me with that goofy picklehaub on top of my bean?! That's not even a standard spike on that thing, but a cannon ball...maybe they think my head is about to explode!!

-- Posted by Herr_Hauptmann_DES on Wed, Jun 18, 2008, at 11:45 AM

Can anyone fill me in, is the Busch thing a buy-out or a take-over? Most large companies own enough of their own stock not to be bought out if it comes to a stock-holders vote.

-- Posted by Producer1 on Wed, Jun 18, 2008, at 11:46 AM

Pups and Little_Mac Honesty as long as there is an L middle name with it I would consider anything its the hubby you all gotta work on LOL

-- Posted by NickeyB63780 on Wed, Jun 18, 2008, at 11:57 AM

LMAO do I have to wait that long??? Can't we fly him down here sooner and have Guido make him be nicer to me??

-- Posted by NickeyB63780 on Wed, Jun 18, 2008, at 12:18 PM

I'm almost certain InBev is acquiring stock at this point. I just find it crazy not to own 51% of your own stock, you're just asking for something like this to happen. Of course everyone would get a premium price for their stock but I still don't think it would be worth it. I'm kinda proud of the fact that some of the best beer in the world is made right up the road and is still quote-unquote family owned, not to mention I don't want the Cardinals playing at InBev Stadium LOL

-- Posted by Producer1 on Wed, Jun 18, 2008, at 12:20 PM

Just making a statement so that way people can't say I didn't apologize :) I have thought of the etiquitte class and it would really have to be a couple for beginners (those that have NONE) and those that just need a refresher.

Oh yeah and I lied and said I wouldn't be back so I am apologizing for lying. Bad Nickey LOL

-- Posted by NickeyB63780 on Wed, Jun 18, 2008, at 12:25 PM

While your at it Little_Mac, I have some non-name related jobs for Guido, and they call for more force than just restraining someone.

Nicky, your last post made me laugh. I'm getting the picture of some poor man being held down as Guido says "Now buy your wife some flowers, and a card. Do it now. And you better like it or I'll break your kneecaps"

-- Posted by Producer1 on Wed, Jun 18, 2008, at 12:28 PM

Beer,

Now this IS and important topic. It is my understanding that the Busch family only owns about 4% of the stock in A-B. Warren Buffett's company actually owns more stock the the Busch's.

This will entirely come down to the stock holders. Mcaskill and Blunt have come out opposed to the deal but this is merely to look good to the constituents of St. Louis. There is a fear that if InBev takes over much of the corporate structure will be gone from St. Louis and there is a fear that down sizing due to combining production may result in layoffs and what not.

For six-pack Joe it probably will not make a lick of difference. InBev has come out publicly stating that it wants to keep A-B's traditions and production in St. Louis. On the flip side A-B has been attempting to buy Mexican brewer Modelo (makers of Corona) of which they already own 50%. Believed this would make A-B to costly for InBev to buy.

Politicians need to keep their noses out and let the market place decide.

-- Posted by SWBG on Wed, Jun 18, 2008, at 12:31 PM

LMAO Producer I'd settle for a decent back rub!! its all his fault I'm like this anyway dang fertilizer hose!

-- Posted by NickeyB63780 on Wed, Jun 18, 2008, at 12:32 PM

Psst Little-Mac the body part was in that last post

SHHHHHH!!!!! It has to look like an accident LOL

-- Posted by NickeyB63780 on Wed, Jun 18, 2008, at 12:33 PM

Oh the pain can go on and on for I'd say oh 12 hours or so and I want him aware! That's payback enough for what I'm gonna go through in about 4 months!

MAKE IT LAST! LOL

-- Posted by NickeyB63780 on Wed, Jun 18, 2008, at 12:39 PM

Bad Little_Mac LOL!!! You're probably right though....

As far as sadistic oh I think I have quite a few people beat in that department!

-- Posted by NickeyB63780 on Wed, Jun 18, 2008, at 12:47 PM

Boy oh boy see what me being in a good mood will get you all! Probably a whole lotta stuff you may not wanted to know about LOL

-- Posted by NickeyB63780 on Wed, Jun 18, 2008, at 12:50 PM

SWBG: Anheuser-Busch has put the offer by InBev to its board of directors. Apparently Warren Buffet is in favor of the deal, according to a Belgian newspaper. An InBev-Anheuser-Busch combination would make it the world's largest brewer. Anheuser_Busch, as you said owns 50 percent of Grupo, Mexico's largest brewer and 27 percent of Tsingao in China. It is also moving into Vietnam's market.

Anheuser-Busch currently has 48.5 percent of the US market sales.

-- Posted by BCStoned on Wed, Jun 18, 2008, at 1:18 PM

Who Me - of course it is.

-- Posted by DickCheney on Wed, Jun 18, 2008, at 1:18 PM

Do you ever feel like "Who Me" is really a broken record, stuck CD etc.

"Blame the Dems" :|| Over and Over again and again....

My eye hurts, "Blame the Dems"....My throat hurts, "Blame the Dems" It isn't working....."Blame the Dems"

-- Posted by Theorist on Wed, Jun 18, 2008, at 1:21 PM

Who Me is totally correct - the Republicans, led by P. Bush, have done everything to make the lives of the average American family better. None of what has happened in the last 7+ years is their fault. When you don't control Congress like the past 1+ years - you just can't accomplish anything - the dems have defeated them and the Repubicans are hanging their heads in shame. I forgot - in the last 2 years of Clinton's term the R had Congress too. I guess 8 years just wasn't enough. It makes you wonder how the Dems could stop them and turn back all the good in just 1+ years. WOW - the Dems are more powerful than I thought.

-- Posted by DickCheney on Wed, Jun 18, 2008, at 1:30 PM

Little_Mac - I think the Iraq mess was the BIG one that most of us reflect upon.

-- Posted by DickCheney on Wed, Jun 18, 2008, at 1:33 PM

Theorist: I find it ironic regarding your comments about blaming Democrats for all things gone wrong> Is it not true that those on the left do it far more often and with much more "abrasive" verbage?

-- Posted by luv2argue on Wed, Jun 18, 2008, at 1:33 PM

A hurricane is going to hit New Orleans - Blame Bush. OPEC cuts production, oil prices soar - blame Bush. The Earth and other planets are getting warmer - blame Bush. Mississippi River floods midwest - blame Bush. Al Quaeda attacks WTC - blame Bush. Giant asteroid to hit at midnight, women and minorities hardest hit - blame Bush...

-- Posted by Little_Mac on Wed, Jun 18, 2008, 12:30 pm CDT

You feel that way too?

-- Posted by Theorist on Wed, Jun 18, 2008, at 1:39 PM

SWBG: With the dollar being "cheap" and stocks trading on the New York Stock Exchange is in dollars, it wouldn't suprise me to see many more giant companies in the US taken over by foreign companies.

-- Posted by BCStoned on Wed, Jun 18, 2008, at 1:40 PM

Superbee,

Abrasive language? With Instructor and Who Me the abrasive scale is really hanging low on the right.

Are you accusing me of abrasive language? If so, when?

-- Posted by Theorist on Wed, Jun 18, 2008, at 1:43 PM

It seems when the right can't come up with valid points, they get frustrated and they just start spitting out slime. I understand it, because they are limited in the material they have to work with. It's got to be difficult to defend the past 7+ years.

-- Posted by DickCheney on Wed, Jun 18, 2008, at 1:55 PM

Theorist: No, I am not accusing you particualarly of abrasive language. I have found you to be pretty respectful in voicing your opinion on this post. More than I can say for a couple of others.

-- Posted by luv2argue on Wed, Jun 18, 2008, at 1:59 PM

Superbee

We all can't be perfect but to narrow it down and pigeonhole left or right for abrasive language is just wrong. Both sides do it it has nothing to do with who's side you're on its just a personal preference of that particular person and their use of the english language.

-- Posted by NickeyB63780 on Wed, Jun 18, 2008, at 2:05 PM

P.S> I should point out that I was origainally reffering to many of the Leaders in the Democrat Party. Sorry for any confusion.

-- Posted by luv2argue on Wed, Jun 18, 2008, at 2:07 PM

Superbee that is not entirely correct. Have you not heard of the cursing spells that Mr McCain goes through and his temper tantrums??? Apparently not. Not to mention some of the things that Cheney and Bush have said.

ALL OF THEM ARE GUILTY! NO ONE IS PERFECT OR INNOCENT!

I understand your loyalty to your party however the blinders are really not necessary

-- Posted by NickeyB63780 on Wed, Jun 18, 2008, at 2:09 PM

Notice too please by the way that I said all of them do but for the people that insist on stating that the right never does anything like that I am just naming a couple of the party leaders and fore runners that do it quite often.

For Pete's Sake Brittany Spears got caught too and in a couple of years so will Miley Cyrus so who really cares honestly!?!?!?!

-- Posted by NickeyB63780 on Wed, Jun 18, 2008, at 2:14 PM

Little_Mac that Avatar is coming in handy today for me. I can apologize and post at the same time! Wasn't the intention for it but hey it works!

-- Posted by NickeyB63780 on Wed, Jun 18, 2008, at 2:15 PM

Its my child so its gonna be grumpy anyway LOL after Nine months stuck inside me I tend to rub off!

-- Posted by NickeyB63780 on Wed, Jun 18, 2008, at 2:20 PM

Let's just be PC and call it a genetic disorder LOL (kidding)

-- Posted by NickeyB63780 on Wed, Jun 18, 2008, at 2:21 PM

Who Me,

It is not tree hugging dems driving up the cost of oil. It is a weak dollar, an unstable middle east, and increased demand (world wide). The confluence of which is driving up the cost of oil. Speculation of the above (meaning most do not see any of the three changing anytime soon) is what continues to keep oil soaring and the gas prices high. A stronger dollar would do much to bring the price under control. At some point, just like the housing market, the oil market will bust as it is overinflated. You give way too much power to a bunch of tree huggers.

James,

I agree that the weak dollar may result in more gobbling up of traditionally US companies. Also agree with a post from recent past that it is time for the Fed to increase interest rates and tighten the belt around the money supply. Fed has been so worried about a crash that inflation may run rampant. Exact opposite happened in 1929 as there was so much fear of inflation that there was a result no investment and record unemployment. We run the risk of companies not wanting to invest anyways if inflation takes too much of a hold...especially with fuel.

-- Posted by SWBG on Wed, Jun 18, 2008, at 2:27 PM

Little_Mac

We're talkin about me so lets say its Dominant. And no I don't think I have ever heard the phrase "Tell me how you really feel" in any form of speech other than sarcastic....wouldn't know why though

Poppa

Better than Yesterday isn't it?

-- Posted by NickeyB63780 on Wed, Jun 18, 2008, at 2:32 PM

Let's face it folks, we all have some issues and we're probably all a bit frustrated with our leadership on both sides (some might say - what leadership?) We would certainly be better off if we would hold our leaders accountable and not re-elect someone just because of political party. That is on our shoulders and that fault is ours. They continue to make promises and we fall for it again and again. Give them a shot and if they don't deliver - don't support them again. Our elected leaders might work harder to get things done if they feel they a limited time to do it.

-- Posted by DickCheney on Wed, Jun 18, 2008, at 2:44 PM

Welcome Home 325th CSH!

They are back in the States from Iraq and scheduled to be back in Cape Girardeau Thursday pm. Good Job soliders!

"To Fight for Life"

-- Posted by SEMoresident on Wed, Jun 18, 2008, at 2:49 PM

Very well said DickCheney!

Little_Mac yup I left before the heat got to be too much for this fat girl! Can't say some of it wasn't my fault but after I left I maintain innocense LOL

-- Posted by NickeyB63780 on Wed, Jun 18, 2008, at 2:50 PM

Our elected leaders might work harder to get things done if they feel they have a limited time to do it. Every election period should be evaluation time. Excellence performance = re-election. Poor performance = someone else gets a shot.

-- Posted by DickCheney on Wed, Jun 18, 2008, at 2:50 PM

well I gotta scoot for now hope everyone has a good night

just remember I was a good girl today but I can't say that will continue into tomorrow!

-- Posted by NickeyB63780 on Wed, Jun 18, 2008, at 2:54 PM

The teachers at Scott Central High School give the kids answers to their school work and let them hang out in the gym the rest of the day. My son hates going, but needed the credit. He tells everyone what a waste it is because he is not learning a single thing. If he didn't learn it during the normal school year, and isn't learning it over the summer, he'll be even more behind next year. The teachers running the high school are the English and Business teacher. They are not trained to teach my child Math, science or social studies. These women are best buds from what I hear. Letting the kids hang out all day gives them time visit with each other and goof off with the kids. Sounds like day care where the providers are paid extremely well by the tax payer. Some of the things my son says those teachers say to him are very unprofessional and inappropriate. Very alarming. I'm glad I'm not the only one who is concerned.

-- Posted by HiTtHeBoOkS on Wed, Jun 18, 2008, at 3:04 PM

little mac,

No. Development of domestic oil generally is more expensive. That is why much of it, such a shale oil, has not been developed. If the price drops on speculation of development then there will be no development. Oh what a slippery slope. Beyond that to produce any viable oil from the coast or other places will take at least ten years. While the demand is still high there is still plenty of oil to be had.

But yes these resources as well as nuclear/alternative fuel sources should be explored for both financial reasons and political reasons. But I do not think pursuing of such will cause price to go down. Stronger dollar might. Now if we were on the verge of actual development...meaning the oil was coming out of the ground and the refineries were already built there would be a drop.

-- Posted by SWBG on Wed, Jun 18, 2008, at 3:19 PM

swbg: Would'nt the idea that the U.S. is agressivly persuing drilling for our own oil be an incintive for OPEC nations to take a step back and look at the long term implications for them. It may persuade them to increase their production and/or lower their price to look more cooperative by increasing production? Also, wouldnt the idea that the U.S. is drilling increase the value of the dollar in the long run?

-- Posted by luv2argue on Wed, Jun 18, 2008, at 4:05 PM

http://www.examiner.com/printa-1446818~O...

-- Posted by BABE on Wed, Jun 18, 2008, at 4:16 PM

Hello all. Sorry so long to respond, been a bit busy at work today. Only 28 more days to go and I will be back in AMERICA!!!

Littlemac, you asked about the A/B beer in Italy. Yes, it is here, but not as prevalent as you might think. Europe is known for premium beer, and Europeans look at American beer like it is a third world country. Not very popular.

Today's SO was very thin and shallow. Not much to comment on really. I do have a question. Have the floods from Iowa trickled down to SE Missouri yet? I can only imagine this being another '93. I was only 12, but I remember the fears of the levee breaking in the diversion channel and flooding out Chaffee.

-- Posted by chaffeemp on Wed, Jun 18, 2008, at 4:29 PM

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news...

-- Posted by BABE on Wed, Jun 18, 2008, at 4:40 PM

Babe: Good news! I heard Al Gore endorsed Obama for President.

-- Posted by luv2argue on Wed, Jun 18, 2008, at 4:53 PM

WhoMe: I am beginning to go with the few Republicans who want Obama to win. Simply for the reason so Dems can show us how its done. They have been hammering W. and Republicans for anything wrong so perhaps it is time for them to buck up. The problem is, if Obama is elected, almost immediately afterward, the main stream press will report the the sky opened up, the sun started shinning again and immediately the economy is not so bad after all and the world is automatcally a much better place to be. This is an election year and if someone takes every gloom and doom for exact truth should have their head examined.

-- Posted by luv2argue on Wed, Jun 18, 2008, at 5:21 PM

Hit the books......

You are right on about those two teachers from the high school at SCC....they have been trouble makers for over 20-30 years..It's time to retire......Do everyone a favor...if you don't want to TEACH (or can't)....stay home.

-- Posted by Maytag on Wed, Jun 18, 2008, at 5:42 PM

http://www.foxnews.com/urgent_queue/inde...

-- Posted by BABE on Wed, Jun 18, 2008, at 6:50 PM

babe-we already know FOX cant be trusted to give the true news. Jeb Bush stopped the drilling off Fl several years ago,check it out.

whowho, I was talking about oil speculators on Wall Street, not your 401K friends.

-- Posted by changedname on Wed, Jun 18, 2008, at 7:07 PM

In order to have the New World Order that daddy Bush, baby Bush, and many other of the worlds powerful of all political and religious persuasions have spoken so lovingly about, there simply canít be a strong U.S. economy, a strong dollar, and a strong America..

Our economy was so dominant after WWII, that we could have remained that way for hundreds or thousands of years. We had the military might and we were the only major country, except for human casualties, un-touched by the ravages of war. However, the evil elite of this country and of others cried out for a One World Government so we got the United Nations.

This abomination has sent its tentacles into most every aspect of everyoneís lives on Earth but most people arenít even aware of it. The U.N. has mandated policies that are followed by local, state, and federal agencies. Oh yeh, some people complain and say we need to kick the U.N. out of the U.S., but they donít understand that the U.N. tells the U.S. what to do because that is what the evil elite of the world want them to do. It is an un-godly demonic organization. Even if you don't believe in God it is still evil.

It is so easy to see this unfolding when you have an understanding of what those psychopathic people desire. The New World Order requires a one world government and a one world currency. You canít have that with a powerful America. They couldnít have pulled off their plan in a short amount of time and they certainly couldnít have gone on T.V. and told the masses what they planned to do to us, because even some of the dumbed down sheep would have revolted. They have done it incrementally and stealthly..

They have been slowly destroying this country over at least the last 100 years. They gave us unbearable taxes, they gave us endless wars, They destroyed our industry base and jobs. They caused us to feud over trivia. Black against White, Republican vs Democrat, rich vs poor, Cards vs Cubs, paper or plastic, the list is endless. This trivia made us take our eyes off of the globalists and the bigger picture.

They are clipping the final stitches out of the fabric that held this country together so we can blend in to the rest of the world. One of the most glaring stitches clipped was along our southern border. All of this has been allowed by both the Dems and Repubs. The America that we once knew is soon to be no more if we don't get the people to wake the h*ll up.

-- Posted by Thought Criminal on Wed, Jun 18, 2008, at 7:58 PM

Who Me?

In the process of reading this article. Not sure you will find it credible or not. Just something to look at.

http://www.nader.org/index.php?/archives...

-- Posted by Pups on Wed, Jun 18, 2008, at 8:23 PM

WHO, if I as a speculator I bid $165.00 a barrel,, you will come along and offer me $170.00 etc etc etc our govt at present is too slow and dont give a d*** what Wall Street is doing.

-- Posted by changedname on Wed, Jun 18, 2008, at 8:59 PM

I can't wait for Barack Hussein Obama to be President. The day after the election, I'll be on here constantly calling him a piece of sh*t, the "n" word, and anything else I can think of.

I really want to find out what it is like to truly hate the POTUS like some of you hate Bush.

Just kidding, but I can't wait until the day after the election because fuel will be $1.20 gallon, food prices will drop 30%, the war will end and the economy will suddenly become the best in 75 years. The angels will sing, Jesus will return to bring peace, end world hunger and reign for 1000 years.

-- Posted by Instructor_aka____________ on Wed, Jun 18, 2008, at 9:04 PM

By the way, it sure sucks that Susie Sweetness has returned to the forum. Oh well, it was good while she was gone.

-- Posted by Instructor_aka____________ on Wed, Jun 18, 2008, at 9:07 PM

Who me...you profess to be an optimist, yet your posts are definitely "debbie downers". I presume it is because you see the change coming and our disappointed you cannot claim a part in it. If your posts of late, see the glass half full, it must be stagnant water....

-- Posted by Theorist on Wed, Jun 18, 2008, at 9:22 PM

I can't wait for Barack Hussein Obama to be President. The day after the election, I'll be on here constantly calling him a piece of sh*t, the "n" word, and anything else I can think of.

-posted by Instructor....

You really need to watch what you say. This is insubordination besides being just plain WRONG!

-- Posted by Theorist on Wed, Jun 18, 2008, at 9:24 PM

They can't stand the fact that they won't be in power anymore....

-- Posted by Marine5151 on Wed, Jun 18, 2008, at 9:48 PM

Just kidding, but I can't wait until the day after the election because fuel will be $1.20 gallon, food prices will drop 30%, the war will end and the economy will suddenly become the best in 75 years. The angels will sing, Jesus will return to bring peace, end world hunger and reign for 1000 years.

-- Posted by Instructor_aka____________ on Wed, Jun 18, 2008, 8:04 pm CDT

I figure he only will reign for 500 years but you give me hope!

-- Posted by Marine5151 on Wed, Jun 18, 2008, at 9:49 PM

All kidding aside....Did anyone read that article about the cars that are running on Hydrogen in Cali?

-- Posted by Marine5151 on Wed, Jun 18, 2008, at 9:50 PM

I just put the same thing!

-- Posted by Marine5151 on Wed, Jun 18, 2008, at 9:51 PM

Doesn't seem to be anyone else on here, eh?

-- Posted by Marine5151 on Wed, Jun 18, 2008, at 9:54 PM

I am on here, Marine, but since I agree with you, I am just passively biding my time...

-- Posted by Theorist on Wed, Jun 18, 2008, at 9:57 PM

hrm...

I see we still are talking about nothing but the impending presidential election....

the cesspool stagnates.

*lazily shakes her whip, looking bored*

-- Posted by Super_Bethie on Wed, Jun 18, 2008, at 10:02 PM

Hey Bethie!!!

How's my Godson? ;-) Hope all is well with you and Mr Super.

Trying to stay our of the line of fire here, but wanted to say hey.

-- Posted by Pups on Wed, Jun 18, 2008, at 10:04 PM

Sorry - I didn't see you out there...and I lost my internet connection...I hate Charter

-- Posted by Marine5151 on Wed, Jun 18, 2008, at 10:04 PM

There is a very good article http://www.texasobserver.org/article.php... in the Texas Observer explaining the genesis of the oil futures fiasco and the home mortgage problems we have now.

We can thank Republican Phil Gramm for sponsoring and Democrat Bill Clinton for signing the Commodity Futures Modernization Act back in 2000. We can thank slim ball Gramm and his little weasel wife Wendy for their part in the Enron scandal and the sub-prime mortgage problems we have from Grammís deregulation banking legislation.

Just to show you how incompetent John McCain is, he is asking Phil Gramm for economic advice. Even if you love McCain, talking to Gramm is like drinking political poison. You can't make this stuff up. Why doesn't McCain talk to a guy who would look out for all of our best interests. Ron Paul.

-- Posted by Thought Criminal on Wed, Jun 18, 2008, at 10:06 PM

LOL..Hello Pups---

I don't blame you for trying to avoid the ***** that has been spewing forth the last several days. I've been reading but avoiding posting, in all honesty.

Hasn't been much worth commenting on.

Bebe is doing wonderfully...getting big too quick. He's napping on Mr. Super's lap atm. We're all doing pretty good--I definitely can't complain.

How are things with you?

-- Posted by Super_Bethie on Wed, Jun 18, 2008, at 10:07 PM

While the current energy chatter revolves around oil prices, don't lose sight of what's brewing in the electric power generation / supply area.

Many suppliers in the Midwest, and for that matter - nationwide - have already implemented or are requesting to implement significant rate increases, with Cape's own local supplier going before the PSC, requesting a 12% or so increase for residential service. Suggest this is just the start of the string of anticipated electric rate increases, not just in this area - but nationwide.

Much as one's personal vehicle cost-per-mile has increased significantly due to fuel prices, the electric utilities' cost-per-kilowatt-hour is on the rise due to significant increases in their average fuel prices.

Systemwide electric usage grows from 2-4% on average per year - more people, more households, more electricity-using appliances being brought into a given utility's service area. Whenever new generation is not allowed to be built to match this growth - any reserve capacity is consumed in short order - forcing the utility to more often 'go to market' and pay the then-current commodity prices which they have little control over, in order to meet their current demand. The immediate alternative is rolling blackouts.

While some may argue the validity of the following sources cited, the following links are an article and a follow-up commentary that do a pretty good job of hitting the high points of the fuel cost and electric supply pressures being experienced by electric utilities.

If you choose to read these, for comparison against the values given in the article - keep in mind that Ameren's current residential summer rate is $0.0792 per kilowatt-hour - http://www.forbes.com/energy/forbes/2008...

http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2008/0630/0...

The message here is to don't get lulled into thinking that the fuel cost toward one's vehicle is the only energy cost to be concerned and to become informed about.

-- Posted by fxpwt on Wed, Jun 18, 2008, at 10:10 PM

Bethie,

Doing good thanks. Just at Bebe's birth place doing my thing. LOL

I've been trying to learn to breath and think before posting today. That has had the effect that I didn't post much.lol

Actually the ***** has been flying from both sides so in fairness just trying to duck alot. (wasn't very good at ducking last week though, and kind a lost it. lmao)

-- Posted by Pups on Wed, Jun 18, 2008, at 10:13 PM

fxpwt,

Was thinking that was all part of alternative fuel sources idea. Water (hydro) and Air (windmill) for production and saving on the consumer of Electical costs?

But I'm kind of guessing that the gas prices are more upfront because they are daily where as most only see their electric once a month??

Gotta leave office for a bit,,, be back in a few.

-- Posted by Pups on Wed, Jun 18, 2008, at 10:18 PM

....Did anyone read that article about the cars that are running on Hydrogen in Cali?

These cars get over 300 miles to a tank of gas and can get to 100 mph. Why aren't these more prevailant?

-- Posted by Marine5151 on Wed, Jun 18, 2008, at 10:22 PM

marine,

Hadn't heard about them, but let me do some research and I'll get back to ya.

-- Posted by Pups on Wed, Jun 18, 2008, at 10:31 PM

marine,

You can check out this site and see the list of cars supposedly already in production to use hydrogen fuel cells.

http://www.hydrogencarsnow.com/

Though depending on info from other sites, not sure the hydrogen highway will be a reality until around 2014-20. Will have to see what happens.

-- Posted by Pups on Wed, Jun 18, 2008, at 10:44 PM

For sheer economics and stability - it's tough to beat a coal-based power plant. Even so, construction costs are way up (thanks again, China!). One article (of the oodles I try to keep up with) mentioned that a coal-based power plant which was estimated to have cost $1 billion in 2000 is now expected to cost $2.31 billion. Big bucks, and lots of whammies here given the current uncertainties with proposed environmental legislation and with financing projects that would be a significant percentage of many utilities' current asset value.

Alternative fuel sources' big play is towards the environmental side. As I've mentioned before - 'clean' and 'cheap' are just about polar opposites in the energy world. For example - while wind is 'free' for all practical purposes, the capital (equipment and installation) costs per kilowatt delivered are quite high. Then there's the reliability issue - adequate wind isn't guaranteed to be blowing when one wants to turn the lights, computer, or air-conditioner on.

Hydrogen and batteries for cars may have lower fuel costs-per-mile than gasoline at the current gasoline and electric rates. But any added up-front expenses - the capital costs over and above those for a gas-engine - need to be figured in to the overall operating costs. Electricity is needed to make the hydrogen and to charge the batteries, which would place even more strain on the electric system.

The answer isn't easy - lots of trade-offs to consider, with many opinions towards the value of the trade-offs. What one person considers as a really big road-blocking issue, another may consider as a de-minimus bump-in-the-road.

-- Posted by fxpwt on Wed, Jun 18, 2008, at 10:45 PM

Why aren't hydrogen cars more prevalent? How about the fact that the technology is extremely expensive? Even more important than that, there is next to zero infrastructure to support refueling these vehicles.

It is a catch 22 situation. The vehicles will not be produced in large numbers, thereby reducing costs, until the infrastructure is in place to conveniently refuel.

The major hurdle is the fueling issue because the cost will come down with higher production. The first Honda Clarity vehicles (around 200 total) will be leased for $600 a month (not nearly as expensive as what I would have expected).

Obviously, at $600/month, Honda is heavily subsiding these vehicles.

-- Posted by Instructor_aka____________ on Wed, Jun 18, 2008, at 10:46 PM

The answers are in the blue tub.

-- Posted by insider63785 on Wed, Jun 18, 2008, at 10:46 PM

http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politi...

-- Posted by BABE on Wed, Jun 18, 2008, at 10:54 PM

Instructor

Check out the website I pasted. Seems there are alot of cars already out there that I was not aware of. Again, as with everything, the cost of production is a major concideration as well as the availability to refuel.

I honestly at the moment can not say at this time if I'm for or against this type of car. Will have to wait and see I guess.

-- Posted by Pups on Wed, Jun 18, 2008, at 10:54 PM

Babe,

What your not reporting is that Rep Gov Schwartenager (sp) is also apposed to drilling off of the coast of California (also telling the President he won't do it.)just as Jeb Bush was in Florida.

-- Posted by Pups on Wed, Jun 18, 2008, at 10:58 PM

**** it, I swore I wouldn't get drawn into politics today. I'm out for the night.

Instructor,

Are you back?

-- Posted by Pups on Wed, Jun 18, 2008, at 11:02 PM

Thanks for the heads up Mary Jo. I will check it out. I

hope Olberman is equal opportunity with McCain and O'Bama. They both need to be held accountable. The days of politicians blowing smoke at us has to end.

-- Posted by Thought Criminal on Wed, Jun 18, 2008, at 11:09 PM

Pups, the technology is wonderful. The only by-product of fuel cell technology (at least concerning the vehicle) is water vapor.

The major problem is the re-fueling issue. It would require a complete re-working of the current fueling structure. Things like bio-fuels (a complete joke) mesh quite well with the existing infrastructure but not true with hydrogen.

-- Posted by Instructor_aka____________ on Wed, Jun 18, 2008, at 11:13 PM

No Pups, I am still out east.

We almost had a nice little fuel spill this afternoon. Luckily, we caught the problem before it became an issue. Today was one of those days where things just went wrong.

Oh well, we learn from mistakes so all was not lost.

-- Posted by Instructor_aka____________ on Wed, Jun 18, 2008, at 11:17 PM


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