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Three Southeast football players arrested

Wednesday, April 30, 2008

Three Southeast Missouri State University football players recently arrested on suspicion of misdemeanor shoplifting have been indefinitely suspended from the program under university policy.

Miles Stroter, Errick Aliifua and Jerald Williams, all freshman reserves on last season's football team, were issued citations Sunday afternoon. They are scheduled to appear in court May 27.

According to a Cape Girardeau Police Department spokesman, Stroter, Aliifua and Williams were caught with stolen items from Macy's by a Macy's loss prevention officer, who summoned police.

During an ensuing investigation, more stolen items from businesses at West Park Mall were found in the vehicle of the three men.

The police spokesman said the three are charged with stealing about 21 items from Macy's, Steve & Barry's and J.C. Penney Co.

The stolen items are valued at less than $500. An amount greater than $500 would be considered a felony.

Southeast athletic director Don Kaverman said the university's student-athlete code of conduct calls for an immediate administrative suspension from involvement in team activity pending further investigation whenever an athlete is accused of a violation of criminal law.

"The reason we suspend them is so we have an opportunity to gather the facts," Kaverman said. "We let the authorities do their thing, and we do our own inquiry to try and determine what happened.

"We let things run their course and then determine their status later."

Kaverman said that according to Southeast's student-athlete code of conduct, a suspension can be lifted by the athletic director if the charge does not involve a felony.

Kaverman said the university and the football program can still dole out discipline above and beyond what the legal system decides.

Southeast football coach Tony Samuel said that will be the case from his end.

"They will be disciplined by us above what their punishment is," said Samuel, whose squad concluded spring practice Saturday. "That was not a real smart decision by those kids. These are good kids who just made a bad decision."

Aliifua, a defensive tackle from Hayward, Calif., saw the most action of the three last season. Aliifua played in all 11 games, compiling 16 tackles, including 2.5 tackles for loss and a quarterback sack.

Stroter, an offensive lineman from Chicago, played in eight games on special teams and at guard.

Williams, a safety from Houston, played in one game.

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Just another example of SEMO Football players giving the University a black eye (on and off the field). Maybe we should stop recruiting these punks... they're not even good, so why bring them here??

Coach Samuel's reaction is embarassing really. Don't these players have citizenship clauses?

-- Posted by Joe Redhawk on Wed, Apr 30, 2008, at 12:51 AM

Coach Samuel's comments were embarassing and I can't really say what he said suprises me. In my opinion people who steal are the lowest of the low and are nothing but a drain on society. I would put these 3 right there with anyone else who steals.

-- Posted by ThisisRCIR on Wed, Apr 30, 2008, at 5:11 AM

I guess they can kiss the NFL goodbye!

-- Posted by Yankee Station on Wed, Apr 30, 2008, at 8:03 AM

They were freshman guys. I agree that is a black mark on the program. There is plenty of stuff that goes on with Mizzou football that gets covered up. Let's just face it. It is what it is

-- Posted by obamayourmomma08 on Wed, Apr 30, 2008, at 8:42 AM

It happend here and you guys bash on the Head Coach. More serious issues happen at Mizzou and everyone just praises Pinkel for his comments. I am familiar with both and the comments are the same.

You recruit a kid from Houston, Chicago, and California. You commentment to them that they are your responsibility. You cant just leave them high and dry and turn your back on them. This are good kids, and they did make a bad decision. They are freshman in college playing D1 football. They may think that they are untouchable, but this shows that they are not. They are probably wanting a lot of things that other kids have. They just went the wrong way about it.

And then you say that Samuels comments dont "surprise you". What if your son got caught stealing? Would you want his Head Coach, the one who promised to be there for your son, to just turn his back and say I dont care about you anymore because you made a immature mistake.

It is called defending your players. Until the situation is solved, you have to wait and see what to do next. He cant rush to judgement.

I like Coach Sam and I know one thing, he would be there to support me just like he did his players.

He wouldnt do what everyone on here would do and that is sell them down the river.

I get so tired of all the negative remarks on here. You people just sit around and wait for something to happen and then your go to bashtown with it. Groq up and give these kids a chance. You already want to label them life time offenders.

O yeah, they did get suspended immediately. What more do you want?

-- Posted by HeHateMeToo on Wed, Apr 30, 2008, at 9:07 AM

Momag-

This has nothing to do with the NFL. If I remember correctly, there were two players drafted in the recent NFL draft that admitted to getting caught with Marijuana while in College. One was a 1st round pick that is going to make millions when he signs his contract. You think this makes a difference? Goes to show how much you know

-- Posted by HeHateMeToo on Wed, Apr 30, 2008, at 9:09 AM

I think all sports should be dropped from all collage and high schools. This may cause a drop in attendence but at least those attending would be there for the reason the're supposed to be, to get a good education.

-- Posted by newman90 on Wed, Apr 30, 2008, at 9:11 AM

Samuel Quote "These are good kids who just made a bad decision." That is something you say when a player gets a traffic ticket. Driving 5 miles over and getting a ticket is a little (no a lot) more acceptable than freakin' stealing!!!! Evidently stealing isn't a very big deal to you. I am disappointed in the words Samuel used!!!! That is my point.

-- Posted by ThisisRCIR on Wed, Apr 30, 2008, at 9:45 AM

Schools, such as Southeast Community College, exist for their sports programs, not their academics. So called atheletes, young men and women who play children's games, and hope to one day make millions from playing childrens games to entertain America's sports obsessed witless, are defended whenever the committ crimes.

Remember Michael Vick? Vick tortured and brutally murdered dogs, operated an illegal gambling enterprise, and was a scum sucking pice of crap. However, Vick had his defenders even after the horrific details of his crimes were made public.

Schools should return to academics and let the professional sports teams pay for and rely on their a team supported farm club system to produce their players of childrens games, and let schools teach.

-- Posted by Liberty_not_Tyranny on Wed, Apr 30, 2008, at 10:32 AM

Childrens games? What the heck is that. Were these games invented by children? No they were not. They were invented by adults and because they are so popular, children play them.

I do not support Vick and I am glad that he is serving his time. That has nothing to do with this situation.

If you think that they should remove all sports from College and High School, then I challenge your intelligence. Where do you think they get a lot of money to fund colleges? SIU and Mizzou both have had increases in enrollment after there football teams became winning programs.

That increase brings in more money for the university. Where does that money go? It doesnt go to athletics, it goes to increasing campus resources. New computer labs, better dorms, better paid and qualified professors the list goes on and on. Have you seent all the improvements at the University of Missouri? In the last 4 years, they have built 3 new dorms, renovated another, put in a new math and science building, and put in one of the nations best recreation centers that athletes dont use. They can, but they have there own. All of these improvements are for the students on campus. Nothing purtains to just the athletes.

Back to the subject. Are you saying that these kids are not "good kids"? Just becasue they stole some items at the mall they are all the suddene bad kids. Have you ever done something wrong in your life?

I am willing to bet anyone that has responed to this post that at least one of your have drivin drunk before. Whether you were completely taked or not is not the issue. I am talking about you being over the legal limit and drivin a car. So if you would have got caught, it is okay for me to call you a bad person. Tell me I am wrong on this, even though I am not

-- Posted by HeHateMeToo on Wed, Apr 30, 2008, at 11:03 AM

GmeOvr:

Possession of Marijuana is a victimless crime unless they were charged with possession with intent to sell.

Felony stealing is different.

-- Posted by Yankee Station on Wed, Apr 30, 2008, at 11:03 AM

We should all let the authorities and the university handle this situation. However, the comments posted by “Tito_Santana” (on Tue, Apr 29, 2008, 10:33 pm CDT) are totally unacceptable. I am appalled that the Southeast Missourian Staff would allow for comments like that to be posted. We, the people of Cape Girardeau / Southeast Missouri should not accept comments such as this to be posted. Stealing is wrong, however, we do not need statements such as these to “add fuel to the fire.”

-- Posted by Prof on Wed, Apr 30, 2008, at 11:31 AM

A head football coach's job is tough. Not only must you recruit to win, you must win and then make sure your kids are held accountable. These kids broke the law and should be punished, not by you idiotic posters.

Being a coach, a teacher, or a parent is a tough job. If we had the answers, this would be a perfect world, but we don't. I am quite sure the head coach is doing the best he can. I will pray for him, his players, and his program.

-- Posted by niceguy on Wed, Apr 30, 2008, at 12:09 PM

Tito- just plan stupid.

I have read about 5 or 6 of your sentences and I can see how much intelligence you have.

None

-- Posted by HeHateMeToo on Wed, Apr 30, 2008, at 12:42 PM

Kaverman says these are "good kids" who made a poor decision. No, they made multiple decisions to commit criminal acts. Not "good kids" in my eyes. If found guilty, they should be kicked off the team and sent home.

-- Posted by Karla J. on Wed, Apr 30, 2008, at 1:07 PM

First off, I am defending the athletes. I dont really get why you said, "what more do you want". I am saying that we all make mistakes and that the people posting on here have committed at least one crime in there lives, but they dont consider themselves to be "bad people". That is what they are saying about these kids.

I would never ever make my kid go work at a place that he stole from. That is total Humiliation. I would never humiliate my child. I would make him go and apolgized in person and then it is a dead issue. How do you think that your child would feel having to deal with that everyday? I do not agree with you one bit for that. I would punish him at home. I also wouldnt make him quit the team. What does that show him? That his father controls his life. That is what makes kids rebell. I would wait to see if he got kicked off the team, that would make him learn his lesson.

Some parents need to realize that when your kids go to college, they should make their own decisions and choices. Parents should not make the decisions for a 19-22 year old college student. Let them make the choices and be responsibile for them

-- Posted by HeHateMeToo on Thu, May 1, 2008, at 9:16 AM

First off, I am defending the athletes. I dont really get why you said, "what more do you want". I am saying that we all make mistakes and that the people posting on here have committed at least one crime in there lives, but they dont consider themselves to be "bad people". That is what they are saying about these kids.

I would never ever make my kid go work at a place that he stole from. That is total Humiliation. I would never humiliate my child. I would make him go and apolgized in person and then it is a dead issue. How do you think that your child would feel having to deal with that everyday? I do not agree with you one bit for that. I would punish him at home. I also wouldnt make him quit the team. What does that show him? That his father controls his life. That is what makes kids rebell. I would wait to see if he got kicked off the team, that would make him learn his lesson.

Some parents need to realize that when your kids go to college, they should make their own decisions and choices. Parents should not make the decisions for a 19-22 year old college student. Let them make the choices and be responsibile for them

-- Posted by HeHateMeToo on Thu, May 1, 2008, at 9:16 AM

Your last sentence is a very good point. I agree that most fathers put the fear of god in there kids more then the criminal justice system. With a lot of kids not having fathers that are around, they get a lot more lenient treatment from the mother. It is a completely different relationship between the mother and father of a child. I think that you would agree to that.

My point was that I wouldnt make them work at the place that they stole from. I think that making go back to that place one time to apoligize is enough. Just my opinion. What affects kids the most is their support system. If someone in their support system turns on them and is now giving the punishment, i.e. Father, it reaches them more and scares them. When they go to court, they could care less what the judge says or the prison guard because that person isnt apart of their lives.

I definitely believe in harsher punishment. I think that every crime that is committed in the US is never punished as much as it should be. I recently read an article on Sheirff Joe Arpiao in Arizona. Very interesting stuff and I think that people need to realize that a crime is a crime.

I just didnt liek how the coach took fault for his comments. They are good kids that bad a really bad choice. Do I thnk they should be punished, heck yeah.

-- Posted by HeHateMeToo on Fri, May 2, 2008, at 9:03 AM

Good kids don't shoplift. Next platitude, please?

-- Posted by Mark Rutledge on Wed, Feb 10, 2010, at 7:15 PM

Well it looks as if that Miles stroter kid is getting major looks from the NFL http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsp... wish he would have stayed at SEMO

-- Posted by proscoutsemo on Wed, Jun 23, 2010, at 3:50 PM


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