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Saturday, March 22, 2008

WHY WOULD Cape Girardeau Mayor Jay Knudtson object to the sales-tax holiday even though local tax revenue is down? I thought he was one of these supply-siders who believe that cutting, reducing or even eliminating (in this instance) taxes would somehow, some way, increase overall tax revenue. Mr. Mayor, ye reap what ye sow.

An old idea

THE OLD idea that making markets more open and free will inevitably make the government of a country like China more open and democratic is just that: an old idea. In addition, it's wrong.

Lost in the lyrics

CAPE MAYOR Jay Knudtson's op-ed column praising the customer service of AmerenUE during the recent ice storms makes it official. Our relationship with the utility concern can now be unequivocally described as a love-in, although I'll admit that a good deal seems lost in the lyrics, "Come together, right now, over AmerenUE."

Entertaining play

I SAW the River City Players' production of "Deathtrap" and was pleased with the whole evening. The play was good and entertaining. The community theater is voluntary work. I know it takes a lot of hours and work to put together five nights of entertainment. I look forward to the next play and will be placing my reservation as soon as I can.

Chaffee teamwork

I WOULD like to thank Peg McNichol, Rich Payne and Mr. Baker for the help in getting our first responder vehicle painted in a nice facility. This would not have been possible without everyone's help. On the behalf of the Chaffee first responders, we say thank you to all involved. Your willingness to help shows that anything is possible when we work together as a team.

Pitch in awhile

REGARDING THE people in Jackson who are complaining about the time it takes for limb cleanup: If they would help the city workers clean up for at least eight hours, they would understand why it's taking so long. We appreciate the people who understand why it's taking so long.

Debris and mud

YOU CAN'T drive down any street in Jackson without running into limbs scratching the side of your car and running through mud. When you see the street sweeper, it's in the Bent Creek area cleaning perfectly clean concrete. The debris is everywhere. It makes our city look bad.

Longer school days

JACKSON SCHOOLS should take lessons from Trinity Lutheran School, which is going an extra 15 minutes a day to make up for days missed. This will also help with the high price of gasoline.

No moral compass

THE DEBBIE Shank case shows how Dickensian our country has become. The cavalier attitude of the Wal-Mart, the courts and those who support this legal maneuvering shows that America has lost its moral compass. Disgusting.

Latchkey scheduling

SOMEONE SAID the school district needs to consider latchkey kids when planning schedules, citing the many kids at home after school for an hour or so until their parents come home. How do you want the scheduling to be done? Stay later? If so, when are you going to start the day? If your answer is "later." then the kids will be home alone in the morning instead of the afternoon. Why is it the district's responsibility to take care of child care, a task that is the parents' responsibility?

Poor engineering

A LOT of the flood damage during the last few days was caused by undersized bridges. If the water upstream of the bridge is backed up and at a higher level upstream than downstream, the bridge is undersized. Many other states have laws requiring bridges be large enough to pass flood flows without raising flood heights. It is poor engineering that creates a situation like what occurred on Byrd Creek. The water upstream had to spill over the highway because the bridge was so small. The water was several feet higher upstream than it was downstream. The road was acting as a flood obstruction.

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As much sympathy as I have for the Shanks and their situation with Wal-Mart's insurance, I have to wonder what kind of attorney it takes to put a family in this position. When negotiating this, did the thought never cross his/her mind that the insurance company would be recouping their money out of it? Why is that attorney not coming forward, saying I made the mistake and out of their hundreds of dollars they received paying Wal-Mart back and taking the loss instead of this family? Yet, the answer is clear, this attorney, like so many others, doesn't look out for the best of the client, only what they are going to get. I did know a family that when the attorney 'negotiated' the best, the judge added more from the attorney's checkbook to make it better. The attorney had to write a check on the spot. Better check out your attorney to see their track record, friend or otherwise. You think the insurance company is cruel? I think the attorney is an example of a bad attorney.

-- Posted by KingsKid on Sat, Mar 22, 2008, at 10:16 AM

Good point, KingsKid---I'd never looked at it from that angle before until as of lately, to be honest. But I sure will from now on, if I am ever unfortunate enough to come-up against this situation myself some day. And---no one dare say, "Well, that can't happen to ME!" Oh yes it can! And then it's suddenly YOUR turn to remember WHAT questions to ask of WHOM. So, let's all watch, listen, and learn from this familys' misfortune.

-- Posted by donknome-2 on Sat, Mar 22, 2008, at 1:58 PM

Why is the Shank family receiving all this press coverage? Since this contractural agreement is made between many companies and their employees there are many sad circumstances to be told. Could it be because Wal Mart is the perceived culprit? Wal Mart bashing has become the trend with the press egged on by the Union Lobby who are drooling over a chance to get their thumbs into the biggest plum ever.

-- Posted by conservababe on Sat, Mar 22, 2008, at 2:44 PM


There you go again, trying to blame the evil big company for the victim's circumstances. The fact that she will be dependent on Medicaid at the taxpayer's expense because of decisions the family made in terms of settlement is simply not the fault of Wal Mart.

On a side note...It was reported in this newspaper that they were divorced so that she could apply for Medicaid which is unlawful and I'm surprised the husband admitted such during the interview. Also, Mrs Shank was provided with a personal assistant and a private room in the nursing home which would have rapidly depleted the settlement funds.

No matter how much you and I can sympathize with the family's plight or the fact that the taxpayers will be paying for her care justifies saying that Wal Mart is shirking their duty to anyone. Choices made do have consequences.

As usual....Liberals 'feel' and Conservatives 'think'.

-- Posted by conservababe on Sat, Mar 22, 2008, at 3:05 PM

Down with Walmart, burn it to the ground ;o)

-- Posted by Proud_Democrat on Sat, Mar 22, 2008, at 4:49 PM

Yes, conservabe, "...liberals feel and conservatives think..." Now there's a hoot if I ever heard one. You really love to toss out the stereotypes, don't you? I agree that conservatives think...of themselves.

-- Posted by iago1 on Sat, Mar 22, 2008, at 4:53 PM


You don't seem to be aware of the facts. Here is an exerpt from the Wall Street Journal, Nov 20, 2007......

Few such cases have attracted as much attention in legal circles as the Shanks'. Mrs. Shank took a job in 1999 stocking shelves at a Wal-Mart store in Cape Girardieu, Mo. She jumped at the shift from 11 p.m. to 6 a.m. so that she could spend days at home with her three sons, Mr. Shank says. After a probation period, she qualified for benefits under the Wal-Mart health plan in February 2000.

One day about three months later, as she and a girlfriend were touring local yard sales, a semi-trailer truck plowed into the driver's side of her minivan. Her friend's injuries were minor, but Mrs. Shank suffered major brain trauma and spent the next several weeks in intensive care. She drifted in and out of a coma, and the hospital, for months.

"One doctor didn't give her any chance," says Mr. Shank, a maintenance worker at Southeast Missouri State University. Her medical bills climbed past $460,000. The health plan paid them promptly. "They were terrific in that respect," he says.

It also sent Mr. Shank several notices that he was to inform Wal-Mart's health plan before he settled any suit. In 2002, the Shanks did sue and won a settlement from G.E.M. Transportation Inc., owner of the truck. The firm had only $1 million in liability coverage, though. For his own losses, Mr. Shank received $200,000, of which $119,000 remained after legal expenses. He says he spent most of it toward a one-story house fitted with ramps and wider doors, which is more accessible than the family's previous three-level home.

Mrs. Shank's own settlement was $700,000. After legal expenses and attorney fees, the remaining $417,477 was placed in a court-created special trust designed specifically for Mrs. Shank's future care. The Shanks' lawyer, Maurice Graham, wrote the Wal-Mart health plan informing them. Mrs. Shank had received no funds directly, he said, and therefore had nothing to pay Wal-Mart back.

-- Posted by conservababe on Sat, Mar 22, 2008, at 5:10 PM

Re: Poor Engineering

Interpreting the caller to mean that the bridge was too low heightwise, instead of too small sizewize. One of the many challenges with engineering is that neither time nor money come in infinite supplies.

Suspect that the bridge design was based on historical flow and run-off data with a criteria of building for the maximum flow expected in the next 50 or 100 years. One possibility is that this rainfall exceeded those maximum projections - either the maximum rainfall per event or the maximum rate of rainfall expected.

Changes to the drainage area after the bridge is constucted - such as increasing the amount of drainage area by including more watersheds, or land alteration activities such as development that increases the amount of runoff for a given area - will affect the total flows and related water height passing under, or in this case around and over, the bridge. These types of changes may not have been considered or included as part of the original bid package or design criteria.

Given unlimited amounts of time and money, suspect that engineers could build a bridge that would be functional even in floods of Noah's Ark proportions. :-)~

-- Posted by fxpwt on Sat, Mar 22, 2008, at 6:19 PM


Of course you want to edit out your comments when you are stating incorrect facts, even though it might show a disclaimer that it has been edited. Liberals always want someone else (ie this paper) to bail them out after they have chosen to speak unwisely. LOL

-- Posted by conservababe on Sat, Mar 22, 2008, at 7:20 PM

I love the stereotyping. Cracks me up. Just little daggers to get things going.

It is silly for anyone to think a corporation would "feel". If they do feel it is generally in an ad campaign. Corporations are there to make money.

Many a person ends up on Medicaid when unable to provide for themselves. No shame in that. I would speculate few of us could have dealt with such a blow and had enough money set aside to see to our care for several years without assistance from the government.

And sometimes people do make choices like getting a divorce in order to survive financially. Is it illegal? I am not sure of that. Perhaps babe has a resource indicating that it is.

-- Posted by SWBG on Sat, Mar 22, 2008, at 8:04 PM


Is your avatar an indication of you turning the corner? Jesus, after all, was a socialist. He often advocated giving money to the poor which is basically a redistribution of wealth.

-- Posted by SWBG on Sat, Mar 22, 2008, at 8:07 PM

Happy Easter everyone!

-- Posted by thinker on Sat, Mar 22, 2008, at 8:51 PM


Jesus was not a liberal. He did advocate distributing monies from the rich to the poor, in the form of CHARITY.

-- Posted by conservababe on Sat, Mar 22, 2008, at 8:57 PM

Has anyone heard anything about how the Diversion Channel levee south of Cape is holding up? I just was looking on here for any news about it and I found this article showing a little mudslide in the side of the Diversion Channel levee, but it is saying it is at the headwater or something. I don't understand it. I am wondering if it is the one south of Cape. I thought someone on here might know something about it.


-- Posted by thinker on Sat, Mar 22, 2008, at 9:00 PM

Like your little bunny Me'Lange. :)

-- Posted by thinker on Sat, Mar 22, 2008, at 9:02 PM

I haven't tried to post anything on here in a long time and I am really surprised at the speed it is posting tonight! Last time I tried was right after the switch and it was just too long of a wait for me.

-- Posted by thinker on Sat, Mar 22, 2008, at 9:04 PM

Good to have you back, thinker. I took a few days off myself to do some fishing in Tennessee. Returned to a lake of my own now . . .

Haven't heard anything about the diversion channel levee.

-- Posted by yasgurfarm on Sat, Mar 22, 2008, at 9:36 PM

So much talk about liberal this and conservative this. I'm not either one I'm an american and proud of the United States of America. I'm not from a blue state or a red state for whatever that means or proves, I'm a Missourian and proud of the Great State of Missouri.

-- Posted by swampeastmissouri on Sat, Mar 22, 2008, at 9:37 PM

I always wanted a garden pond. I got one for a few days. I think we are going to have to haul in dirt and make a hill so that the dog can go out when we get a big rain!

As far as labels go, I guess I consider myself to be a "Compassionate Conservative".

-- Posted by thinker on Sat, Mar 22, 2008, at 10:00 PM


Never said Jesus was a liberal. Likely the terms as we know them did not exist. However members of the early Church lived in communes. Everything to be provided for the good of all equally.

So I take it from your comment you believe in charity. Is not welfare state sponsored charity? Therefore is not the government as an entity behaving more Christ like than many Christians?

BTW did you find information on the illegality of divorcing to decrease income so as to take advantage of government sponsored medical benefits? I know this practice to have been going on for years but have never heard of anyone getting in trouble for it.

-- Posted by SWBG on Sat, Mar 22, 2008, at 11:03 PM


Welfare is mandated "charity".

No, I have not found a source for fraudelent practice of divorcing for the sole purpose of receiving government aid. I am thinking it went into effect at the same time as the two year waiting period for medicaid if one chooses to give all assets to children.

-- Posted by conservababe on Sat, Mar 22, 2008, at 11:50 PM


#1 Nope, not been well

#2 With the increase in prices, Walmart is not really any cheaper than Schnucks or Food Giant lately.

-- Posted by Proud_Democrat on Sun, Mar 23, 2008, at 12:11 AM

SWBG, you bring up a very good point about people abusing the system to their advantage. I have seen many elderly "mult-millionaires" transfer their estates to their children in order to go on medicaid.

This way they can protect their precious $ from being eaten up by nursing home costs. Everyone plays the game. BUT...when you have money and use it, I think THIS is the worst crime. Believe me, it happens more than you think.

-- Posted by Proud_Democrat on Sun, Mar 23, 2008, at 12:19 AM

Conservababe, I beg to differ. No where in the bible does it state that Jesus was or was not a liberal. OR a conservative. I hope you don't think he is a Conservative Bush lover???

I send you to Isaiah 2:4

And they shall beat their swords into plow-shares, and their spears into pruning hooks; nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more …

-- Posted by Proud_Democrat on Sun, Mar 23, 2008, at 12:26 AM

History of the word liberal. Compliments of the Oxford English Dictionary.

Beginning in 1375 Pertaining to or suitable to persons of superior social station; ‘becoming a gentleman’ (J.). Now rare, exc. of education, culture, etc., with mixture of senses 3 and 4: Directed to general intellectual enlargement and refinement; not narrowly restricted to the requirements of technical or professional training. Freq. in liberal arts.

1387- Of a gift, offer, etc.: Made without stint. Of a meal, an entertainment, etc., also of a fortune: Abundant, ample.

1433-Ample, large.

1616 - Free from restraint; free in speech or action.

1778 - With agent-noun: That does something freely or copiously. Obs.

1668 - Free from narrow prejudice; open-minded, candid.

1781-Free from bigotry or unreasonable prejudice in favour of traditional opinions or established institutions; open to the reception of new ideas or proposals.

Anyhow, it's quite lengthy. The bottomline is, I think that it is a fairly pompous statement by Conservababe to guess whether he was liberal or conservative. Additionally, you really don't want to engage me into a game of semantics.

-- Posted by Proud_Democrat on Sun, Mar 23, 2008, at 12:48 AM

OMG this stupid stupid stupid thing just blocked when I said P.L.O.W.shares (plow shares)

-- Posted by Proud_Democrat on Sun, Mar 23, 2008, at 12:51 AM

Anyone heard anything about the future of Cup 'N' Cork downtown? I figured Rudi would have covered something on this.

-- Posted by Proud_Democrat on Sun, Mar 23, 2008, at 12:57 AM

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