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Speak Out 2/25/08Monday, February 25, 2008Saving money IF CAPE Girardeau and Jackson want to save money on storm cleanup, they should do what the Cape Girardeau County Highway Department does: push the limbs in the nearest creek to be someone else's problem. What a way to save money. Viewing the damage I DROVE around to see the ice damage in Cape Girardeau and Jackson. Despite what other callers have angrily said, I am not ashamed of that. I did not get in anyone's way, and I didn't stop to help because I'm totally useless for that type of thing. However, I did take food and blankets to a couple of families in need. This ice storm was like nothing I had seen, and I knew the pictures probably couldn't do it justice. I wanted to see the devastation. That's not a crime, and it's not insensitive. Managing well I AM a fairly young man with a wife, two children and two cars. I have close to $30,000 in savings and several nice antiques. Our money is well-managed. Mercedes, BMWs and other high-end cars don't interest us. I once owned a Jaguar. It was the worst car I've ever seen. I've owned two 40-year-old Mustangs that were mechanically superior, more aesthetically pleasing, cheaper to work on and faster. The biggest difference between irresponsible youngsters and all-knowing financial wizards of the mature set is that we youngsters don't need Viagra with wheels. Paper delivered THANKS TO the Southeast Missourian carrier who managed to deliver our newspapers every day on Bertling Street during the ice storm. With no power for two days, the newspaper was a ray of sunshine each morning. Profit for us IT'S TRUE that the new federal building has had some problems, but the people complaining about their tax dollars being wasted are misinformed. For at least a decade, Missouri has had a positive balance of payments with the federal government. In 2005, the most recent year I could find data for, Missouri took in $1.32 in federal spending for every $1 we paid in federal taxes. Those federal dollars are being spent on construction here and going into the local economy at the expense of states like New Jersey, Nevada and California. Sure, the money should be spent wisely -- for the sake of taxpayers in those states. Wise or not, it's a net profit to us. Thanks in Bollinger Co. A BIG thank you to Black River Electric Co-op and all the emergency workings who assisted in the ice storm in Bollinger County. Also a big thank you to the First Baptist Church of Marble Hill for opening its doors to anyone needing a place to stay and food to eat. Debt problems I JUST read that the Air Force budget is short of what's needed. Then on the radio I heard Paul Harvey say President Bush promised Rwanda $100 million. Where's Bush going to get the $100 million? We're borrowing everything now from China. When we have needs here in the United States we're told we don't have the money. Our government is taking care of everyone but the American people. Politicians tell us not to overspend, but the U.S. is so far in debt that we will never get out. Landlord's stuff IF YOU rent a house, does the landlord have the right to bring stuff and park it in your yard? I thought if you rented a house, the yard went with the house. The landlord should have no right to bring old cars and stuff and put it in your yard just because he owns the house. He doesn't want his own home to look bad, but he brings eyesores to make your yard look bad. Ordinary people I ENJOYED the article about the Bucket Brigade women from Altenburg who do the cleaning. I wish the paper would publish more stories like this about ordinary people from around this area. That's really what makes the Missourian interesting. Thanks for help THANK YOU to all the out-of-town workers who came to help Jackson in our time of crisis during the ice storm. It's appreciated. God bless you all. Disgraceful expense IT IS a disgrace that we would pay James Carville and his wife $64,000 to speak in Cape Girardeau. Whoever is responsible for bringing them here should have to pay that $64,000 out of their own pockets. I cannot believe we're doing stuff like this. Wake-up call DURING THE ice storm we received a wake-up call. This was nothing close to a real catastrophe. We witnessed so many doing outstanding jobs, including neighbor helping neighbor. I sense an uneasiness when I think of the what-ifs. Let's say we have a major earthquake. Would we have stable facilities with temporary power, food, water and bedding for a large number of people? This is an enormous concern that would be hard to address. Spring will come soon. As things become warm and beautiful, we will forget. If we do, then it really wasn't a wake-up call at all. Keep it affordable WHY DO schools like Southeast Missouri State University compare room and board and tuition to other schools? Just make it as cheap as you can so you can get by. Don't worry what the other schools charge. Do it as cheaply as you can so our students can get an education. Chaffee workers I WOULD like to thank the Chaffee Public Works Department. They were wonderful with all the ice. They got up at 2 a.m. and sometimes worked around the clock clearing off the streets and picking up limbs. I don't think they get enough appreciation. Plant pecan trees I KNOW the ice storm did a lot of damage to a lot of trees. I've got about 65 pecan trees, and not one of them was damaged. They make good shade. If everybody would plant a couple pecan trees, ice wouldn't break the limbs off. Safe and feasible I JUST read where our trade deficit with China is $1 billion a day. China is our second-leading trade partner behind Canada. We know that China uses child and elderly labor to make the cheap products we buy. China also is spying on the U.S. at an alarming rate. It recently refused two U.S. ships safe haven from a hurricane. This is the same China that was training Iraqis to shoot down our planes just before we invaded. All of this, and we have sanctions against Cuba. Sadly we show our might only when we know that it's safe or economically feasible. School selling I HAVE had it with schools and their fundraising. Family and friends can only be hit up so many times. When is it going to stop? Now we are being told we have to sell overpriced chocolates, cookie dough and cheesecake to raise money to buy new sewing machines, dishes and other things for an elective class. Where does all our tax money go? If the district can't afford these items, they do not need to offer these classes. I have had enough. Comments  Note: The nature of the Internet makes it impractical for our staff to review every comment. 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Safe and feasible: It is not unusual for Navy ships to be asked to leave a port during hurricanes. I have some great pictures of us leaving Kaohsiung, Taiwan during a Typhoon. I was on a tin can that took some pretty hefty rolls while leaving. In a port such as Kaohsiung has, it could be dangerous to leave ships anchored in the bay.
School selling
Call me a bad mom but when my kids bring the stuff home if I feel it is high priced and junk then it gets put up and forgotten about. Paying 13 bucks for cookie dough is ridiculious and I am not going to do it. Bernie schools do not have the fundraisers instead the school makes up t-shirts, mugs, car window decals etc with the schools mascot on it and they sell it to raise money. It is all cheaper and something that can actually be used. A lot more schools should follow this pattern.
Managing well
Not all young couples are worried about material things although the majority are. If you start from an early age saving 10% of your weekly pay then by the time you retire you can have a nice nest egg and you will not even miss the money once you get use to setting it aside.
"IT IS a disgrace that we would pay James Carville and his wife $64,000 to speak in Cape Girardeau"
I agree with this caller, I can watch him on TV for FREE.
Aggie,
Could we not say that about any speaker/entertainer?
Landlord's stuff
The fact is, you are living in a house that is owned by somebody else. Therefore the house and YARD in this case are his to do what he likes with. If he puts something in the yard that you don't like, you have 2 options, complain to your landlord or leave. Your waisting your money on renting that house anyway.
Safe and feasible: You want a war with China because they are selling the US things that it obviously wants. Who is going to loan the US the money to fight a war with China? China is an economic powerhouse, just as the US is. Economic powerhouses make the world better off. Wars make the world poorer with their destruction of wealth.
Landlord's stuff-I agree with cliff and if you can't buy you need to rent somewhere else because this landlord is going to be nothing but trouble anyway.
I would like to have seen Mary Matalin but didn't find out she was here until after the fact. Maybe I was busy with the ice and just missed the promotion of her visit. $64000 seems like a lot but when compared to the millions urinated away on the River Campus it seems like a pretty trivial amount. Also the university went for some balance by allowing her husband to appear also.
Safe and easy:
What an excellent idea! Do you have any areas in mind or should we choose the most convenient place for them to be.
Seriously, I am surprised that some people are not cutting them up and selling them as firewood. When life gives you lemons, make lemonade!
Viewing Damage
It is refreshing to know that you helped out others in need. I think the Speak Out caller automatically assumes that you were driving around to mock them of their misfortune. Unfortunately, they were probably not in the best mindset to make a sweeping judgment.
It would also be nice if people would ask if they need help. Sometimes people look capable of doing this hard bit of work.
Landlord's Stuff?
Have you tried talking to your landlord? Communication goes a long way...
Wake up Call
I think SE Missouri has handled the disaster pretty good. Much better than many other towns in America. Since you saw many "holes" in this process, perhaps you could head up an effort to become more prepared?
School Selling
I can understand why people would get upset about public schools doing fundraisers. Theoretically, our taxes should take care of all of their needs. Of course, this is a pipe dream.
But you can't blame private schools for doing this. They don't have the state and federal support that public schools are supposed to have. Unfortunately, they have to squeeze their sources dry. Usually when you go with a private school, you are making a sacrifice or compromise.
Saving money
Here's a novel idea: Cut up and haul off your downed limbs yourself.
re: landlord's stuff
No, your landlord does not have the right to park his stuff in your yard. In fact, he has no right to even come on the property without your permission.
Conservababe,
I tried pulling that excuse with my parents when I was younger. They always retorted with, "As long as you live under my roof..."
I don't think your advice would fly many tenants. Landlord will probably say, "You don't like it, then get out."
Nice try though.
15 common renter's rights
http://realestate.msn.com/Rentals/Articl...
Conservababe,
I thought that was right, but wasn't sure. I dont think that landlords have a right to do such things with that property once they rent/lease it to someone else.
Landlords can do pretty much whatever they want if it is stipulated in a contract.
school selling
I totally agree. My daughter has three children in elementary school and she has given up because of the sheer volumn of requests from the schools to sell junk. Children used to do chores for money to donate to their schools.
Also there is a problem with businesses using the school children instead of hiring an ad agency. Their backpacks are stuffed with more brochures and ads than papers pertaining to their school work. If pizza parlors want to help the schools why not just donate funds instead offering 10% off on certain nights.
The landlord has to give 24 hours notice before showing up at the property. Also, the landlord does have to keep a nice and clean area. So, you are correct, the landlord does not have the right to park the car in the yard. But, the fact is, you can complain, the landlord can be ordered to move it, you now have a bad relationship, the landlord may raise the rent, may be slow at responding to problems, and so many more things that wouldn't be expected. The fact is, if you have a landlord that puts things on the rented land, your best option is to move.
gehagge
Good point, is the caller renting the house with the land or just the house? If it is a big lot, it may not be in the contract that the caller is renting the entire lot. In which case, the landlord can do whatever they want with that land.
Landlord's stuff.
Suggest reading your lease/rental agreement; it might offer insight as to whom has what rights?
Yall can take Jay Nixon's landlord/tenants laws quiz here....
http://www.thelpa.com/lpa/landlord-tenan...
I think that the businesses that offer a percentage of sales on a certain night to area schools are in a win/win situation. Hopefully there will be an increase in sales for the business, a good donation to the school, and also a night for families and to get together with others in their neighborhood and have a fun night eating out and getting acquainted. Plus, friends, family and neighbors who don't like being hit up all of the time to buy useless, overpriced junk, do not have to feel pressure to buy from the sweet little kid that is sent out begging for their schools. (and the children aren't being exploited!) I am all for the School Nights at restaurants!
I wonder if the nation's food police have looked into what kind of efect the sale of candy and other confectioner products have on the overweight problem in this country. That candy bar that you buy from the children and those cookies you buy from Brownies could cause diabetes or early heart conditions. Now do I get employed by the Feds?
Unless you folks offering legal advice to a renter are licensed to practice law in the State of Missouri, I would suggest you refrain.
The best advice is to consult an attorney.
Hellomynameis,
It is just suggestions and opinions. I don't believe anyone stated they were giving legal advice!
A long time ago I rented an apartment from an elderly lady, she came into my apartment when I was gone several times. I didn't know until a few little things started disappearing, her son told me when I confronted him about it that she had the right as a landlord to come in and check things out whenever she pleased, that it was perfectly legal. Anyway to make a long story short I did ask a lawyer and at that time it was perfectly legal for her to come and go and she pleased. I do think now though that the laws have changed at least that is what I have been told.
Point being Cliff, if you want legal advice, consult an attorney. Even a licensed attorney wouldn't post an answer on a public forum such as this.
James,
You may be onto something. But then they would start selling those candles that smell like food. I think those make people hungry and want to eat more. Those must be banned as well.
Hello,
You must be a lawyer.
Not a lawyer, just smart enough to know that offering suggestions and opinions is in reality, offering legal advice.
If you had a medical condition, would you call Speakout and listen to folks offer their opinion? Not a good idea.
It is not an easy task policing all the fat contributers, but someone has to do it. With a sufficient grant and plenty of low level employees to do the leg work, I think that I can handle the job. I'll turn my two room shack into a government office.
Hellomynameis,
~chuckle~ Your perspective...reminds me of... how I think an owner/landlord or an attorney would think.
If the tenant, chooses to embrace legal advice from an online Speakout (Opinion) forum...doubt a poster could be held accountable for their thoughts. (With a few of the post...do understand your word of caution, as I was thinking along the same lines.)
With that said, I saw SOME good advice being offered. Namely... communication, read your lease, check some reliable sources and if all else fails, call an attorney.
Scrap that idea, my roof may not pass inspection.
Hellomynameis
Not everyone can afford legal advice. In a case like this, the caller is asking for people's opinion because they are unsure what they can do. Let's just pretend that in this case, the caller could go to the city and fill out a complaint form that would be enforced by the city. It would be pointless to contact a lawyer and pay for an hour to find out that you can do something other than ask for legal advice.
No reason to jump on people just because they ask for opinions and people give them!
I find that funny..
Hellomynamis, I hardly think anyone here is practicing law on this forum. If a person wants someone's opinions, past experiences, etc...let them get it from where ever they choose. For example, I can give anyone here advice, if they want it, about something I have some knowledge about, which would be healthcare. Until I start prescribing medicines, or charging them for my sage wisdom...I am not practicing medicine or impersonating a Dr.
I posted Missouri's tenant/landlord laws per Jay Nixon in my link. I guess he should know something about the subject. LOL
To all who have read what I said before, please observe the following disclaimer:
"I, gehagge, am in no way responsible for any actions taken on behalf of the opinions that I have stated on this forum in regards to rental properties. Please act only on the advice of those who are qualified to handle these issues. Please ignore any resources that I have given reference to."
I probably should give a disclaimer on all advice/opinions that I will give on this forum. Just want to cover my tracks.
KoH_Cliff,
There you go, that is another good idea for the renter...check with the City (if it applies), as Cape has ordinances regarding yards/leases/vehicals etc.
http://www.cityofcapegirardeau.org/cityg...
gehagge, LMAO Just in case, I ditto your disclaimer. hehe (Never can be toooooo careful these days.)
OK, offer away! Just know that the best advice is to consult an attorney. Speakout would be the last place I would consult for legal advice, but that is just me.
Issue over. Call off the dogs.
melange
Landlord/tenant laws are from the State of Missouri.
babe, Believe Cape "also" has ordinances!
melange
Yes, why don't you find it and post a link?
I believe she did, Conservababe.
Babe,
For some reason...can't get the "code" to load right now; but about 2 or 3 years ago printed off the ordinances that pertained to landlord/tenants. At the time was considering a second home purchase as an investment.
Note Cape has ordinances about vehicles in front yards, if memory serves.
Hellomynameis, "Call off the dogs"
Wow! That statement shocked me (in a good way)! I do believe you just conceded (somewhat). What a wonderful trait for someone to share in here...that on occasion we might be enlightened by others viewpoints.
MaryJo,
I think your post from 1:01pm was your best ever.
I wish I was an attorney....or at least got paid like one lol
You can sure tell it's Monday.
conservababe " ' "
Do you think other posters are blind? Please consider buying some Legos, Tonka Trucks, or a Tickle me Elmo!
Melange, thank you for pointing that out, I just noticed what you were saying, duhhh, having a blonde moment...... jk not trying to say blondes are dumb or anything.
HEE-HAW! SNARK SNARK SNARK!
Twiggy,
Well the imposter may have "fooled" some the first time, but come on...do they really think we wouldn't catch on pretty quick the second time.
Babe,
I'd take it as a compliment...this poster must admire your online personality a lot.
SNARK! HEE-HAW! GAW-UP!
Ohhh Helloo Trouble..
LMAO Multiple personality pre-school/daycare must have let out early today.
Like the old saying "you can fool some people some, but not all the time" or something like that
Melange and Conservbabe, you have been reported to the Citizens Unitarian Notification Taskforce
Aww I hate tattle tales. I thought we were going to have some fun. Hay conservaMULE what's the acronym for that?
What's going on? Did the other Conservababe with a . post again? If so, I can't find it?
Landlord's stuff,
Take it to Side's Steel and get some cash out of the junk?
Consider it betterment of your Slumlord's property.
Or buy a house. This is the buyer's market right now. Unless you have crap credit then you can blame the government for forcing you to rent.
babe,
NO, with a '
Read the last few comments, would suggest we are on the same side of this debate. I used the "!", copied both remarks and noted this was a great reason to ban by IP addresses.
AH-HA! Sooo you're conservaMULE!
Melange! You've been reported for starting trouble!
Babe,
They removed the imposter's post. They were using conservababe'
I reported one of the comments because the imposter posted someone's "real" name.
Uncle_Stupid, I'm really concerned.
melange
Thanks. This is getting ridiculous and I do wish the paper would check IP addresses.
Melange,
I didn't see anyone's real name posted. You're a liar now! Who's name was posted?
I never saw a name either!
All I saw was that person saying people are on edge or something to that affect.
babe,
Did you catch these remarks?
All,
Please report them if you find them offensive.
Aww I hate tattle tales. I thought we were going to have some fun. Hay conservaMULE what's the acronym for that?
-- Posted by Uncle_Stupid on Mon, Feb 25, 2008, at 1:51 PM
Melange and Conservbabe, you have been reported to the Citizens Unitarian Notification Taskforce
-- Posted by conservaMULE on Mon, Feb 25, 2008, at 1:47 PM
Melange, I'm reporting you for lying now!
The imposter posted a local attorney's name.
read postings and you will see the persons name that was posted
Melange, I do hate tattle tales. And I was just asking ConservaMULE a question.
Our sentiment is that many of you have invested your time in developing a "personality" in the comments section. While we are not obligated to remove other individuals who seek to "hijack" your online name, we do believe it is the right thing to do, when it comes to our attention.
I hope this explanation is helpful.
Jon K. Rust
Publisher
Southeast Missourian
Nooo the imposter didn't post a real person's name. Mary_jo did! Looks like you screwed up!
Twiggy60, I think they removed the imposters post? I don't see them anymore.
Anyway, out of here till I see the paper is taking care of the lastest concern.
and woopity doo if she did post a local attorney's name. It's a free country, I didn't see any negative remarks against him!
melange
Yes, I do find it offensive. Someone's little mind thinks his acronyms are cutesy. And I did report. No woman should be insulted like that in any forum.
Ooppss, you are right it was Mary jo I reported then.
Don't know why the imposter got booted?
HERE IT IS:
Allen617, Attorney at Law.
Might as well be Allen Moss. LOL
-- Posted by mary_jo on Mon, Feb 25, 2008, at 1:03 PM
I have voiced my opinion several times, and will continue to report any poster that post "real names or real personal information" about another.
IMO it is inappropriate behavior for a public forum.
Yeah Melange. Like I said, Hellloooo Trouble! HEE-HAW!!! SNARK!!
yeah...then why did you report conservababe' ???
Fess up Melange, you probably reported them both!
Read my comment Stupid, I said oopps...I had mistaken who I had reported. Did NOT report the imposter!
Okay, out of here till situation is resolved. Enjoy the "fun" all.
Yes you did! Quit lying! You know exactly who posted what. You said, babe,
NO, with a '
Read the last few comments, would suggest we are on the same side of this debate. I used the "!", copied both remarks and noted this was a great reason to ban by IP addresses.
-- Posted by melange on Mon, Feb 25, 2008, at 2:05 PM
NOTE YOU SAID BOTH REMARKS!!! You are such a BAD BAD BAD LIAR!
Melanges post:
"babe,
NO, with a '
Read the last few comments, would suggest we are on the same side of this debate. I used the "!", copied both remarks and noted this was a great reason to ban by IP addresses.
-- Posted by melange on Mon, Feb 25, 2008, at 2:05 PM "
Free Willy!!
Funny, most of the times the conservatives in here complain about the political correctness of the "liberals." Hmmm...Conservababe was offended, she must be a liberal.
Darn, I missed the dumb babe stuff...LOL
Say, it's a great Monday & we're seeing a lot of clever humor here today! That pleases me no end. Good job, y'all!
Librule
As soon as pop turns his head, so I can use the chain saw, plan on cutting up the limbs on our place to use in his workshop's wood stove. He's such a dear worry wart that he is always afraid I'll get hurt if I do anything more than cook/clean and look pretty (LOL)! Heck, I've hurt myself worse messing around the kitchen than I ever did doing anything else. ;-)
I see a response from the Missourian. I guess Melange was lying.
Well isn't this a pip!
Melange and (The real) Conservababe,
When arguing with a fool, it is hard to see who the bigger fool is.
Ladies, look who you are having a tift with. Treat him with kid gloves because he is special and loves the short bus.
fajar154, you have been reported! SNARK!
fajar
LOL...you are quite right. You made my day.
Conservababe has been reported for agreeing with fajar154
The heck ya say. I'm reporting them too this is a bunch of fiddle!
Most days I find Uncle funny. Now, sometimes I have no clue what he is saying. Usually the comments that are filled with snarks and hee-haws go way over my head, but when he speaks english, I usually get a kick out of it.
Cliff, depends on how SNARKY I'm feeling. Getting a laugh at ConservaMULES expense is always worth while ;o)
Stupid,
Report me. Are you trying a different tactic to get your Info War brainwashing to the general public? Or have you finally lost your marbles? Working for an embezzeler does tend to have someone forget about morals and begin to develop multiple personalities.
I apologize for not refreshing before posting what a great day it is on here.
My suggestion is that we ignore the nasty comments and those who post them. Anyway, that's what I've been trying to do,and will re-double my efforts. Ignoring someone is a statement in itself.
Gurusmom you are very right, but sometimes it is hard not to respond to such stupidity. I don't talk on here much, but sometimes I say things to the walls about how silly some people can be.
Wake-up call,
I said the same thing last week, but was reprimanded for using New Orleans as an example for how NOT to react during a catastrophe. After seeing both firsthand, I know what goes in the 'Not to do' catagory.
So I'll just say, "Good job Southeast. Way to cover your neighbors."
Damn, I leave for a few minutes to run some errands and the place looks like a literary explosion!!
Uncle Stupid,
Perhaps you should be careful on what you post and who you mock.Most everyone here knows who you are as do I.Your humor is getting very old just like you!.I realize asking you to grow up would be futile at best but
could you at least give it a go.Better yet,
go play some music and calm down.
Hellomynameis, Looks like a porta potty exploded to me.
gurusmom,
Yes...I agree, but somehow I do not understand why in the world the paper would not correct the behavior that was so crudely offered earlier to babe and myself.
I can hang on to my bloomers pretty well in a just about any debate...heck even managed to count to 10,415 before replying the reference of a "crazy broad".
There is ONE word, that just does NOT settle well with this "crazy broad"...and someone (two user names) managed to push that "HOT" button today.
Good grief, grow up Melange. How sheltered are you? I stopped getting *HOT* about those types of comments a long time ago. Besides, you may be reading more into it than is really there. Only one poster seen an acronym in it. You and the rest of us didn't notice it til you made an issue of it.
I noticed the acronym and I am sure others did as well.
Maybe you did, maybe you didn't. But Melange didn't notice it until it was pointed out by another poster. Seriously, the acronym may be there, but that may or may not have been the posters intentions, we don't know that for sure. Guessing or assuming it was the poster's intentions is just plain bigotry. If you noticed the acronym, you were looking for it or expecting it. It might be worth while taking a good look at yourself. I didn't notice the acronym until it was pointed out. Just because the acronym spells the word, doesn't mean that was it's purpose. Again, if you are seeing something there, then perhaps you best take a look at yourself.
I am sure that everyone noticed it...well, just about everyone. Maybe you "best" take a look at the definition of a bigot?
Actually, one of my duties was to proof all paperwork going out of my office and approve it before going to another agency or court so I automatically read very carefully. So maybe it was just me, but not for the reasons you infer.
Safe and feasible
I agree with James Nall. Not knowing the harbor that US ships sought haven in during a hurricane, I could not give more of an opinion than what James has already stated. True, it could be that the topography of certain harbors could afford some protection, but from every photo of a hurricane that struck a harbor, it would seem to me that there could be cases where your best chance of limited injury and damage would be at sea.
Now, that said. Thank you for being alarmed at the amount of damage that the neocon and globalists have done to the American economy by prostituting this nation to China and most of the rest of the world. We make nothing, we buy everything at outrageous gouging profits from low life importers and retail stores in the US who are selling us 30 cent an our labor products for prices at, or, way above what they were when they were made here by Americans.
It is greed. The greed is not exclusive to the Republican neocon and globalists, but they lead the way in the destruction of American jobs and our economy.
I truly believe that they do want America to fall, and then they will offer us plenty of $3 and $5 dollar jobs. They figure that at some point we will fight each other to get these low wage, no benefit jobs and be damn happy to have it. They long for the days of servants and company store and housing type jobs where they didn't pay the workers in cash, but in company "script" that could only be used to pay their outrageous prices in the company store, and for the tinder box "house" on their land. You couldn't take the scrpit to town to buy cheaper products, nor, could you exchange it for cash. The teens, 20's and 30's of the last century was the hey day for these greedy pigs. They are making a come back now, since they forced all our jobs to communist slave wage labor countries.
Did you know that the United States has a trade deficit with the Christmas Islands? How the hell that happened, I do not know, but that is just as shocking as American kids being 17th and 21st in the world in math and science. The Bush-Clinton education plan of making American kids feel good about themselves, getting sex education in middle school, and having high self esteem is working. It is working a little too well. Reality has not set in with them, nor, their parents. No one wants to look inward and see what is wrong with America's leadership and direction, they prefer to shout jingolistic, idiiotic slogans about how "Proud to be American", or, "These colors don'T run" crappola... pure crappola, which sound good, aren't true, and just prolong Americans dealing with our real problems.
When I tell the oalfs on here that we are going down hill fast, they say that I am an "America hater." I warned about the economy way before the housing and credit crisis. No one listened, because they were singig the Rush Limbaugh-Hannity tune. Mindless, ignorant people. Well, if this goes as far as I have said it would, with Americans being disarmed and rounded up for concentration and work camps, they will be the ones who will be going. Some will go willingly, thinking they are being real "Americans." Real Americans fought for our freedom. Real Americans do not go guietly into the night, without a fight. The state motto of New Hampshire, is "Live Free or Die." To some that is not a jingolistic slogan, but a way of life.
Fletcher, Maybe you could learn how to start SINGIG your bulls**it GUIETLY from now on. I sent your *** to Cuba, stay there!!!
Oops, that last comment was suppose to be under my name, not Twiggy's.
Lord love a duck, I just this minute ran across Jon Rust's statement on this forum and I thank him for his interest and decision. Yippee, evidently we will have no more of hijacking a person's screen name identity.
Yes, the term "broad" saddly has gone out of style. The most popular years for the term "Broad" was prior to the 1970's, at which point, the United States Marine Corps began to disuade Marines from referencing female Marines as "BAMS"
To me, and to most other Marines of that era, BAMS was not necessarily a derogatory term. Most of us used it as one would use WAVES, to denote female members of the Navy, or, WACS, to denote female members of the Army. I believe that the WAFS were female members of the Air Force. The Marines had no such special distinction for female Marines, so some Marine somewhere came up with the BAMS nickname for female Marines.
The term BAM stood for Broad A** Marines. Now, that may sound a bit unkind, but after repeated use, no one whom I knew really thought of a female Marine in that way. BAMS was just like saying WACS. Or, at least it was for me.
"Broad" is not a common term in my language usage.
I would have preferred Russia. I do think that they, China and India may settle this Neocon, Globalist, fascist takeover of America for us, or, at least cut them down to were we can merely do mop up.
Since you like to sing, join me in the Cuban national anthem.
Cuba National Anthem Lyrics
Cuba
Al combate corred bayameses
que la patria os comtempla orgullosa
no temais una muerte gloriosa
que morir por la patria es vivir
En cadenas vivir es morir
en afrenta y oprobio sumidos
del clarin escuchad el sonido
a las armas valientes corred.
English:
Hasten to battle, men of Bayamo,
For the homeland looks proudly to you.
You do not fear a glorious death,
Because to die for the country is to live.
To live in chains
Is to live in dishonour and ignominy.
Hear the clarion call,
Hasten, brave ones, to battle!
Not a bad anthem, at that.
Now, if you just subsitute a couple of words, the Cuban national anthem fits my political philosophy.
.................................
Hasten to battle, men of the OZARKS,
For the MISSOURI looks proudly to you.
You do not fear a glorious death,
Because to die for the country is to live.
To live in chains
Is to live in dishonour and ignominy.
Hear the clarion call,
Hasten, brave ones, to battle!
.........................
Yep, not a bad tune.
PROFIT FOR US
"I could find data for, Missouri took in $1.32 in federal spending for every $1 we paid in federal taxes. Those federal dollars are being spent on construction here and going into the local economy at the expense of states like New Jersey, Nevada and California"
Now it all makes sense. We are screwing other states out of a fair return on their dollar infested in the US government, so, that should make us feel better. I see.
Now, from where does that .32 cents overpayment come? Is that overpayment to Missouri coming from our out of control borrowing from Communist China? What do you think that administrative costs are for Missourians to pay the US government and for them to send OUR money back to us in Missouri, but instead of us selecting how to spend OUR money in OUR state, they do the feds do the selecting? Just how much does that cost? Is it done for now cost? Do these federal employees work for free? Are you saying that it is better for the feds to decide how OUR money is spent than it is for Missourians to decide?
God, some Americans are so damn stupid. We are truly screwed.
For a term not used in ones language, you have used it.
My theory is you find a need for attention or a need to sound important.
You are a hater, proof made by you rants. I wish if you are going to make those rants, do it under your word processor, to yourself. That way it it doesn't ruin the mood of others with your foolishness.
I REALLY would like for you to show up Friday at Grecian for lunch. PLEASE
Babe,
Well, perhaps if the seMissourian does not correct the acronym issue...maybe KFVS/CBS/CNN/AP would like be interesting in a story about cyber/forum behaviors? Seems today's post would be great public material?
Any port in a storm.
Remember a few years ago, a US surveillance aircraft was flying near the coast of China, when the Chinese sent out military aircraft to extend an invitation to land at a Chinese military airfield?
That was really thoughtful. It was so darn considerate for the Communist Chinese to put out the welcome to our aircrew to just "drop in and set a spell".
Normally, it would have cost these Americans thousands of dollars to pay for airfare, lodging and food for a trip to China, but the Chinese, our friends and "trading" partners, put out the welcome mat for them.
Maybe, I have the Chinese figured out wrong. I should give them the benefit of the doubt.
They are buying the most sophisticated weapons in the world, including aircraft, submarines, and cruise missiles from Russia which are 15 years ahead of our own. I am sure that they only want these weapons to air shows and sea exercises for Americans and European tourists, and not for some kind of expanded territoral control of the Pacific region.
You all are responsible for this great Communist Chinese leap forward. How many of you gave, or, received boxes of Valentine Cholocates made in China.
Turn the box over and take a look.
Hellomynameis,
Off the current topic, but in to reguards Mrs Kasten. Haven't you and other stated all along that her nomination and election was for just the rest of Cooper's term and with the understanding that the GOP of Cape had others lined up for the next election term? I'm just not sure of the uproar about her announcement in yesterday's paper. Though it was common knowledge with the voting public???
Canadian troops to be used in US.
"Canada, U.S. agree to use each other's troops in civil emergencies
David Pugliese , Canwest News Service
Published: Friday, February 22, 2008
Canada and the U.S. have signed an agreement that paves the way for the militaries from either nation to send troops across each other's borders during an emergency, but some are questioning why the Harper government has kept silent on the deal.
Neither the Canadian government nor the Canadian Forces announced the new agreement, which was signed Feb. 14 in Texas.
The U.S. military's Northern Command, however, publicized the agreement with a statement outlining how its top officer, Gen. Gene Renuart, and Canadian Lt.-Gen. Marc Dumais, head of Canada Command, signed the plan, which allows the military from one nation to support the armed forces of the other nation during a civil emergency.
American soldiers arrive on board the HMCS TORONTO as part of a training exercise in carrying out a NATO presence patrol in the Indian Ocean near Somalia. A new agreement between the U.S. and Canadian militaries has been greeted with suspicion by the left wing in Canada and the right wing in the U.S.
Handout
The new agreement has been greeted with suspicion by the left wing in Canada and the right wing in the U.S.
The left-leaning Council of Canadians, which is campaigning against what it calls the increasing integration of the U.S. and Canadian militaries, is raising concerns about the deal.
"It's kind of a trend when it comes to issues of Canada-U.S. relations and contentious issues like military integration. We see that this government is reluctant to disclose information to Canadians that is readily available on American and Mexican websites," said Stuart Trew, a researcher with the Council of Canadians.
Trew said there is potential for the agreement to militarize civilian responses to emergency incidents. He noted that work is also underway for the two nations to put in place a joint plan to protect common infrastructure such as roadways and oil pipelines."
http://www.canada.com/topics/news/story....
Lord, I love the Canadians, but if they attempt to bring about martial law, or, be used here in a so-called "emergency," they need to bring along their own body bag and toe tag, because when loyal Americans respond to this neocon, globalist plan to bring down America, I ain't paying to ship their bodies back to Canada.
Yes pups it was common knowledge that Mary was going to fill Coopers remaining time and then move on. No trickery at any point.
Mary will actually only be in Jeff City for a short five months or so total. It really isn't the big deal many were making it out to be.
We have a part time legislature in Missouri (thank God) and the session is already well under way.
The guy (MJB) has lost his damn mind....
Isn't that the truth? I think he lost it a long long time ago.
Hellomynameis,
Thanks. I didn't vote for her, but even I knew it was short term. Name recognition was a big factor in her election. Not saying that was the only reason, but it was a big one.
LOL Herr
Herr,
Oh man...why you punishing us ladies..."full-dress panties (upper gear is authorized for those appropriately equipped..." doesn't seem quite right?
In the military, we had no "guns" except, excuse my expression, the male sex organ. There are rifles or pistols.
This is my rifle, this is my gun. This is for fighting, this is for fun.
Aggie,
TMI!!!! lol
Herr you are on a roll, LMAO
Babe,
Not sure, but thought all military personel (male) were required to wear standard BVD. Or maybe that just the way it used to be. And I don't think we need the visual of Herr or anyone else in their under garments. (Well ok some exceptions to that rule. LOL)
Very clever & amusing, Herr! Hope Mrs. Herr doesn't have computer access...;-)
PUPS!
"don't think we need the visual of Herr or anyone else in their under garments. (Well ok some exceptions to that rule. LOL)" That's pretty clever, too.
Reminds me, though...way back when my dad was in the Army, and I (as the oldest daughter) had to do the ironing...His ugly-colored Army-approved boxer shorts were cotton and had to be ironed! As a teenager, I felt that having to iron those was above and beyond the call of a daughter's duties...
Gurusmom,
Wie geht's? And in a way, kind of proved me wrong about the BVD thing if Opa wore boxers in the Army. lol
BE carefull Herr, the "Rio Linda" will really confuse those who aren't educated by the great one behind the golden mike in EIB university.
Especially Dick Fletcher.
Babe,
Gonna repeat,,, TMI!! LOL
ROFL!!
I'm out for the dropping and giving twenty, Herr.
I must say...I always look forward to seeing what your post will be like when you get around to it.
You entertain me. :)
That is something to be said lately---there has been a heck of a lot of drivel in here.
But---what do I know...? I'm just a Guinness drinking "broad" who wouldn't mind having her fanny patted by the right overly masculine type. Hell...it might even be time to sit around with straw in our teeth and belch and scratch while we watch NASCAR and bass fishing.
Granted---I own those camo underwear that Babe doesn't profess to have a pair of....*grinz wickedly*
Guru---LOL..Ironed underwear sound like a torture device...hopefully you weren't liberal with the starch!!!
Bethie,
Sounds like you're feeling better. And hope Mr Super doesn't mind all the personal info. LOL
Oh and the starch was manditory, why else do you think Military men don't smile?? LMAO
Babe, "grannies" are forbidden in our household. Yuk!!!!
Aggie,
Now how am I supposed to look Twiggy in the eye at lunch??? LMAO j/k
Pups, without grannies on!
ROFL..
He's not shy and he knows I share everything I know if it comes to myself. LOL
Heck--he'd probably say I'm being nice and discreet by only sharing that much in the forum. ROFL
And the idea of starched underwear makes me cringe. Poor army men...
Babe,
Wrong
Aggie,
Good think I'm in an office by myself, because I just laughed soo loud. You, my friend, are awesome.
Bethie,
Somehow I knew that. LOL
LOL
I have never been in the military...
so I have no clue if starched skivvies are a requirement.
If they were I would surely feel extra sad for them.
I should ask my brother that question...
He'll get this shocked look...then crack up.
Hellomynameis,
I've never seen you smile, so one just assumed. lol j/k
Hey, Twiggy and I are thinking El Acapulco
2morrow night. Anyone up to some margarita's?
Hey, I'm smiling right now! :)
Dang it Babe.
Now my mind is speculating the underwear style of all the other posters....
I could swing by after work..I might not get out of there till about 6:30 though.
Mandatory overtime is for the birds!!! =P
Where did Melange go?
Babe, FYI, I've got boxers with Reagan all over it.:):) Guess I'm a conservative too, huh?
ROFL Babe.
I might have a few that fit that description...I'd say I'm a fan of "exotic" underwear. LOL. Granted...I'd have bet money that I'd never wear the ones I've had too lately. Dang baby belly makes all of them try to roll down...or you feel like they just might cut you in half...Definitely narrows the selection!
Hello--
I'm glad you get to wear comfy underwear. I think it'd make it easier to aim your gun...er..Rifle. LOL
Aggie...yes sir...you ARE a conservative. LOL
Babe,
Let's just say no Donkeys and under gear is dependent on type of pants. lol
Aggie,
Can't make it, sorry.
Sorry you can't make it Pups. We will do it again sometime when you can.
Bethie we will be there around 6:00, so do come by and anyone else that wants to come by.
LOL Babe--
I have been known to if the occasion calls for it.
O.O
LOL
Just curious, does this line of conversation constitute 'girl chat'?? LMAO
Aggie,
Think Melange is taking a break from being unjustly "beat up" earlier. But, I'm just guessing. And for the record, the comment directed at Babe and Melange was rude and uncalled for. Just my opinion on it.
Twiggy and I both agree on that, it was rude.
Aggie,
Not that you would say it, but have the impression that if you ever used that particular term, Twiggy would dismantle your 'gun' and served it to you on a plater. LOL
Hey Hello,
What you implying??? LOL (since I used the TMI)
Delightful that the comments have gone back to some fun and laughs, even if not EVEN on Speak Out topics!
babe--Guess I'm in the middle of the political panties. NOT that I often discuss my underwear. ~blush~
Bethie & PUPS--I do believe my mother heavily starched everything she got her hands on! It never occured to me to think about how starched BVD's might feel. Well heck, back then we weren't aware of anatomy until about the time we got married.
Aggie--Can't make it tomorrow evening...Have to watch the debate. Yes, sigh, I do watch them all...The good, the bad and the ugly. Have fun, & one margarita for me!
Not referring to you Pups! Mainly referencing the yahoos posting earlier today.
Hellomynameis,
I know, I was being a smart ***, sorry. My humor tends to get lost in translation. lol
Friends, I have an emergency to tend to. Seems a driver "stiffed" our company with a load to chicago. Gotta go get it, you all take care.
Aggie,
Be careful and is Twiggy going with you?
No Twiggy is staying home, he just walked out the door.
Pups your right about the serving on a platter, also.
Guess El Acapulco, is off for tomorrow night after all. We will have to plan it later on.
Twiggy,
There he goes again, leaveing you home to take care of the grandkids. LOL j/k
LOL well this time I just have our babies, Corona and Amara. Our Shih-tzu's.
Twiggy,
I knew it. lol One thing I will say about all the women I have met and wish to meet on here, they are very formidable capable women. :-)
Well, got to get some things done. It's been fun this evening. Talk with ya'll tomorrow.
I try :), our lives always seem to be a little disruptive. Never know what's going to happen when your around us.
yep me too, gotta try to get some rest. Take care everyone.
LOL..You aren't shocking me yet, Hello.
There are definitely times it's a preferable state of being. :)
Guru---ROFL!! Sometimes I forget how different it can be in some areas.
Aggie and Twiggy--I'll look forward to another night then. :)
Did no one die in Iraq today?
No news on TV, on the radio, or, in most American newspapers, that keeps the gulible, ingornant American people thinking nothing is going on in Iraq, but the war against the Iraqi people and the deaths of Americans go on in an unjust, undeclared, unprovoked, unconstitutional war.
"Ansar as-Sunnah Resistance group releases video showing execution of 12 Nepalis working for US forces in Iraq."
"In a dispatch posted at 10:10am Makkah time Monday morning, Mafkarat al-Islam reported that the Jaysh Ansar as-Sunnah group, which is engaged in fighting US forces in northern Iraq, broadcast a video on the Internet Monday showing the execution of 12 Nepalis who had been working for the US occupation in Iraq."
"Contractor and four companions shot to death south of Kirkuk at noon Monday.
In a dispatch posted at 6:40pm Baghdad time Monday evening, the Yaqen News Agency reported that armed men killed a transport contractor working for the Iraqi puppet regime troops near ar-Rashad to the south of Kirkuk at noon on Monday.
Yaqen reported Major Nuhad az-Zahawi of the Kirkuk puppet regime puppet police as saying that unknown armed men intercepted the car carrying Nu'man ash-Shahir and three companions after they came out of the ar-Rashad area. They were sprayed with bullets, killing them all on the spot. The attackers left the scene."
"Six rockets fired at Romanian base near an-Nasiriyah Sunday night. In a dispatch posted at 11:30am Baghdad time Monday morning, the Yaqen News Agency reported that six rockets were fired at the base of Romanian occupation forces in an-Nasiriyah, 385km south of Baghdad, on Sunday night."
"Eight puppet regime troops killed in ambush in Buhriz.
In a dispatch posted at 8:57pm Baghdad time Monday night, the Yaqen News Agency reported that eight Iraqi puppet regime soldiers, one of them a major, were killed in an armed attack on their patrol in Buhriz, 60km northeast of Baghdad."
"Deputy Commander of Puppet police operations in Samarra' killed by bomber in wheelchair on Monday.
In a dispatch posted on its Arabic website at 6:38pm Monday evening Beijing time (1:38pm Baghdad time), the Xinhua News Agency reported that a man in a wheelchair and wearing an explosive belt blew himself up by an Iraqi puppet regime military commander in Samarra', 120km north of Baghdad.
Xinhua reported a source in the Samarra' puppet police as saying that a man in an explosives-packed wheel chair and wearing an explosive belt showed up in the Operations Headquarters in Samarra' and asked to meet Staff Brigadier General 'Abd al-Jabbar Rabi' as-Safi, the Deputy Commander of Operations in Samarra'. When the man got near as-Safi, he blew himself up, killing the Deputy Commander on the spot. Two other officers who were with the general were also killed and eight other troops wounded, some of them severely.
The source said that at the time of the attack, General as-Safi was in the Information Room where he would meet citizens and hear their grievances. The explosion was so powerful that it completely destroyed the room."
"Zionist newspaper reports death of "Israeli" soldier in Baghdad landmine explosion.
In a dispatch posted at 3:35pm Makkah time Monday afternoon, Mafkarat al-Islam reported that Zionist sources had revealed that the first "Israeli" soldier to raise the Zionist flag in Iraq had been killed in a land mine explosion in Baghdad.
Mafkarat al-Islam reported the Zionist newspaper Maariv as reporting that last week the Zionist solider 'Ami Hai Bitun had been killed when his Jeep hit a landmine in Baghdad. The Hebrew newspaper said that Bitun had volunteered to serve in the US army in US-occupied Iraq and said that he was the first to raise the "Israeli" flag in Baghdad."
"Resistance fires rocket at US base in al-Habbaniyah midday Monday.
In a dispatch posted at 6:16pm Baghdad time Monday evening, the Yaqen News Agency reported that the Iraqi Resistance fired a Katyusha rocket at the US-ccupied al-Habbaniyah military base, 70km west of Baghdad, at about noon on Monday."
Making death threats hellomynameis? I think that is a criminal charge for that. I'll be sure to report you for that one! SNARK!!!!!!
A natural death from poor health and old age is not a death threat. I take that back, maybe you can report God for that one!
More news from the war that TV forgot to mention. Too much Obama, Hillary, McCain gossip and minute, protracted detail to feed to the American people to keep their minds off the war.
The war does go on, and more Americans are dying. Of course, if you prohibit news coverage of dead Americans arriving at Dover AFB, and keep news of the war away from the American people, they will naturally think that the "surge" is working. Maybe more dummies will post how well the Iraqi's like us, and other such nonsense. Remember, only 3-5% of the attacks on Americans are coming from what is called Al-Qia-dah, or, Al-CIA-DAH, as some are calling it. So, that means, 95% or more of the attacks on Americans are coming from good ole home grown Iraqis. That should be our hint to leave them alone, and go home. The Bush cabal has tortured, killed and screwed up that country beyond all hope. Time to leave and let the Iraqi's sort it out. Next time, we need to stay home and mind our own business.
"
"Bomb destroys US Humvee in Rawah. "
"In a dispatch posted at 10:07am Baghdad time Sunday morning, the Yaqen News Agency reported that a bomb exploded by a US military vehicle in the city of Rawah, 282km northwest of Baghdad."
"US admits two more soldiers killed in combat in Baghdad Sunday.
In a dispatch posted at 1:13am Makkah time shortly after midnight Monday morning, Mafkarat al-Islam reported that the US military in Iraq had admitted that two more of its soldiers had been killed on Sunday.
Mafkarat al-Islam reported a US communiqué as announcing that one American soldier died in a light-arms assault to the south of Baghdad. A bomb explosion in northern Baghdad killed the other American while he was taking part in a patrol there."
Awakening" tribal collaborator policeman killed in car bombing in al-Huwayjah Sunday morning.
In a dispatch posted at 10:15am Baghdad time Sunday morning, the Yaqen News Agency reported that a car bomb exploded by a patrol of US-recruited "Awakening" police in al-Huwayjah, 200km north of Baghdad on Sunday morning."
"Rockets slam into US-occupied al-Habbaniyah base Thursday night.
In a dispatch posted at 11:45am Baghdad time Friday morning, the Yaqen News Agency reported that four rockets blasted into the US-occupied al-Habbaniyah air base 70km west of Baghdad at 11pm Thursday night."
Powerful bomb destroys US Humvee in ath-Tharthar area.
In a dispatch posted at 10:30am Baghdad time Friday morning, the Yaqen News Agency reported that a large explosion ripped through a US patrol in the ath-Tharthar area north of ar-Ramadi."
"Bomb destroys US Humvee in Balad Friday."
In a dispatch posted on its Arabic website at 4:52pm Friday afternoon Beijing time (11:52am Baghdad time), the Xinhua News Agency reported that a bomb exploded by a US patrol in Balad, 80km north of Baghdad.
Xinhua reported a source in the Iraqi regime puppet police in Tikrit as saying that the blast destroyed an American Humvee, wounding the US troops aboard. After the attack, American forces closed off the area for two hours."
"Mortar barrage targets US base in al-Mawsil Friday morning."
In a dispatch posted at 2:50pm Baghdad time Friday afternoon, the Yaqen News Agency reported that the al-Ghazlani base, which is jointly occupied by US troops and their Iraqi regime allies in al-Mawsil (420km northwest of Baghdad) came under mortar barrage on Friday morning.
Yaqen reported a source in the puppet government puppet police as saying that armed men blasted the base with five mortar rounds. Two of the shells struck the base headquarters and destroyed a military vehicle parked on the square in front of the base. US aircraft flew over the area in search of the attackers. No further details were available and as of the time of reporting the Americans had made no statement regarding the attack."
"Rockets blast into British base, forcing closure of al-Basrah International Airport."
In a dispatch posted at 9:15pm Baghdad time Friday night, the Yaqen News Agency reported that two rockets were fired at the British base set up in al-Basrah International Airport on Friday.
Yaqen reported a spokesman for the British occupation forces as saying that the two rockets slammed into the runway at the airport, inflicting such damage that the airport had to be closed to civilian traffic."
See ya in April!!! SNARK! I plan on punching you right in the mouth! LOL
Newsflash! We all will die at some point in our lives. It is a fact that if you are in the last 15-20% of your life (at least statistically) and you are overweight in poor health, you will more than likely die prematurely.
Just a fact, so take your innuendos of a death threat and go somewhere else.
What? I guess you'd rather have me slap you on the ***? Yeah, I heard that too.
My. my. my. Look at this mess. A bunch of filthy talk leads to no where good. This forum is more disappointing everytime I come in here.
I hear that old piano, from down the avenue.
A "fabulous" cut and paste to conclude this evenings postings. I particularly fond the use of the word "penetration" of the White House to be quite amusing.
"The House Judiciary Committee voted against House resolution 136, on March 16, 2005 that would have directed the Attorney General and the Secretary of Homeland Security to transmit documents in the possession of officials to the House of Representatives. These documents related to the security investigations and background checks involved in granting access to the White House of James D. Guckert (also known as Jeff Gannon). The documents were to be transmitted no later than 14 days after the date of the adoption of the resolution.
During the Committee meeting Democratic Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee claimed that Gannon had engaged in "a penetration of the White House, maybe a security breach, and I do not believe it can be answered with self-investigation. [22] [23]
Chairman Sensenbrenner pointed out that a letter dated March 7, 2005, from the Secret Service stated, "Please be advised that our Office of Protective Operations has looked into this matter and has determined that there was no deviation from Secret Service standards and procedures as your letter suggests," [22] The letter did not detail what the standards were.
Guckert, who wants to be addressed as Jeff Gannon, wrote in his blog, "I hope this vote will put these issues to rest and allow me to return to my work as a journalist." In his recently published book [2], Gannon refutes any suggestion of a role at the White House of anything other than an independent conservative journalist.
Democratic Representatives John Conyers of Michigan and Louise Slaughter of New York had submitted similar requests under the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA), on February 15, 2005. The Louise Slaughter request was answered by the Department of Homeland Security with Secret Service records of Mr. Gannon's check in and out times at the White House.[24] The Secret Service Records appear to show that Gannon checked in, but never checked out on many occasions, and visited the White House on several days during which no press conference or other press events were held.[25] In a 2007 interview, Gannon stated that he has never spent the night at the White House.[8]"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Gannon
Some people, including the mother of Johnny Gosh, a sex-slave kidnap victim from Des Moines, believe that Jeff Gannon, is actually, Johnny Gosh who alledgedly was kidnapped in a covert CIA Child Sex program detailed in "The Franklin Cover-Up. The children were used to corrupt, and blackmail members of congress, the judiciary, and various corporation heads.
http://www.thelawparty.com/FranklinCover...
You may watch a video of a British news orginization into the Franklin Cover-UP. It was scheduled to air in March of 1994 on the Discovery Channel. Members of Congress put pressure on them to drop the program, even after it was listed in the TV section of newspapers and the TV Guide.
You may watch a mediocre version of the film which was supposed to be completely destroyed, but a working copy did survive.
http://www.thelawparty.org/Franklincover...
This child sex slave scandal took place during the Reagan and Bush 41 years. According to testimony from some of the children involved, Bush 41 has shown a preferance for teenage black boys.
Mr Fletcher
YOU do not conclude anything with your posts that make a person's eyes glaze over after the first paragraph.
Babe,
If you made it through a paragraph, you made it farther than I do. lol