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Speak Out 2/16/08

Saturday, February 16, 2008

Storm decision

If we know an ice storm has us in its sights, why do we bother to send our buses out to pick up our kids only to have them sent home essentially as soon as they arrive? Besides the frustration as a parent of completely rearranging the day to make sure our children are taken care of twice. I could think of dozens of better ways to spend the money blown to pick up and drop off the bused students. Does no one use common sense any more?

Smart dismissals

I WISH more schools would follow the way Cape Girardeau schools go about dismissing when bad weather threatens. Officials let the junior and high school kids out before the elementary. This makes perfect sense because the older kids are the ones who are driving. These kids don't have experience driving on snow and ice. Scott City schools let the elementary kids out first and then the high school kids. By the time the high school gets out the roads are so bad that the students end up in accidents. Come on, Scott City schools, let's let those older kids who are driving out first before it gets bad.

Recession lie

WHY DO Americans think we're in a recession? The economy is still growing. The definition of a recession is when the economy does not grow but shrinks for six months in a row. When Bill Clinton first ran for the White House, he claimed that George Bush had the worst economy in the last 40 years. It was a lie. Everybody enjoyed the lie and stayed with it. Now, Hillary Clinton is running for office, and we have a recession. It's a lie, but everybody seems to enjoy the lie. And here we are.

Troop morale

I HEARD one of our active military men on a TV show. He has served three tours in Iraq and will soon be returning for a fourth. He is anxious to return to finish the job the U.S. started. He said morale among the troops is high. He said it would be demoralizing to our troops to pull them out.

Uplifting stories

I REALLY enjoyed the articles in Sunday's paper by the Millers and Alyssa Holyfield. There are so many things in the newspaper that are depressing. It was so great to read their uplifting stories.

Waste of money

COME TO the east side of Benton, Mo., where chip and seal was put down about three years ago. All we have now is loose rock. Chip and seal is good for a year or two. Then it crumbles to pieces. Chip and seal is a waste of money.

We earned it

I STARTED earning money at the age of 10 with part-time jobs. I worked for years in factories. I paid in to Social Security. The government dipped into our Social Security funds for other projects. My husband served in Vietnam, farmed and worked for years in a factory. We raised a family, saved and invested for the future. We're both retired and unable to work. We get a Social Security check each month. I feel we earned it.

Driving too fast

WE LIVE on Mount Auburn Road. Motorists are driving 35 to 40 mph in hazardous conditions. It's no surprise that people are having accidents. I can't imagine the mentality of people that would do that.

Rising to the occasion

THE AFTERMATH of the ice storm could have been much worse, but most who were affected rose to the occasion and found ways to make like bearable under terrible circumstances. Their patience while crews worked to restore power went a long way toward making the dark days after the ice all the more bearable.

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Continuation from yesterday's Speak Out:

My apologies... I read over the comment in which you said the same person who provided the bullets also shot the gun.

Even though Iraq did not run the planes into the WTC, they have been known to sympathesize, fund, and provide land for Al Qaida.

I am sure for Hussein, his supporters, and all other freedom hating people in the world believe that the world would be a better place without Bush.

Storm Decision:

In case you have failed to realize this, but the weather forecasters are wrong a lot. Occasionally the hit the head of the nail.

-- Posted by gehagge on Sat, Feb 16, 2008, at 1:15 AM

Recession lie,

I must agree, "technically" the US economy has not reached the point of a recession. However, one could debate; the economy "feels" like we are headed towards a recession because the GDP growth has plummeted to .6, two of the last four quarters; in which the US has not experienced a quarter dipping to that threshold since the 2001-2002 recession.

One precedent setting economic concern and IMO the most volatile indicator in the last 10 years--residential investments have been eminently negative for the last 8 quarters. This may be a strong indication of public sentiment about our economy's health, and some feel a good indicator of "things to come".


-- Posted by coke zero on Sat, Feb 16, 2008, at 6:00 AM

I guess you think you know more than the Chief of the Federal Reserve. Bernanke says the economy is worsening


Of course, he won't fully admit we are already in a recession.

-- Posted by Marvgard on Sat, Feb 16, 2008, at 9:11 AM

Melange and PUPSLOVER,

Thank you for the gift. Will come to good use when my inlaws come down this evening. Not that they are bad people, but you can only stand so much Hillary talk. Also, I don't think they liked it when I said that Obama was the Anti-Christ. Think about it.

-- Posted by fajar154 on Sat, Feb 16, 2008, at 9:16 AM

Just got a report that there MAY be protesters at SSG Skelton's funeral today. I hope not. That would be bad.

-- Posted by fajar154 on Sat, Feb 16, 2008, at 9:42 AM


You are welcome. Now how did you go about getting yourself married to the daughter of Dems?? LOL j/k People have been calling Bush the anti-christ for years and the rapture hasn't happened yet. lol

I truely hope there are not protesters there today. Been following the low life Phelps group for years. They hide behind the freedoms that soldiers have died for in order to protest. How they claim to be Christian and preach and do the hateful things they do is beyond me. I just want to be there when Peter informs all of them that they are wrong and they are the ones going to Hades. Just my humble opinion.

-- Posted by Pups on Sat, Feb 16, 2008, at 9:52 AM


"The Sept. 11 commission reported that it has found no "collaborative relationship" between Iraq and al Qaeda, challenging one of the Bush administration's main justifications for the war in Iraq."

Google it!

Even leaders of our allies have lost their positions because of their relationship with Bush (UK, Australia are examples)and that puts the US in a strained way with those countries. Google that too.

Or you can continue to live in make-believe world.

-- Posted by DickCheney on Sat, Feb 16, 2008, at 10:33 AM


Last evening, while smoking outside, I heard the concern about the protestors (...sorry...did not mention it...didn't want to upset you...). The policemen said, they had called in the county to help with a very strong officer presents.

The family seemed pretty concerned about this turn of events. Even if the protestors do not show up, part of their goal was accomplished...fear…their choice of behaviors reminds me of terrorism.

-- Posted by coke zero on Sat, Feb 16, 2008, at 11:09 AM

What saddens me about these protesters is that they call themselves Christians... As far as I am concerned, they are anything but Christian.

I called my friend of the family to let them know that this might happen. He was unaware of it at the time, but did tell me that they have called in the Patriot Guard (group of motorcyclists who conceal them from the family).

I am not going to the funeral, but I may drive by to see how the protests are being handled.

-- Posted by gehagge on Sat, Feb 16, 2008, at 11:27 AM

I just got back from Brad's funeral. I rode in the Patriot Guard escort from the Cape VFW to McComb's in Jackson. From there we proceeded to Saxony Lutheran High School in Fruitland. There were no protesters anywhere along the route or at the school.

Saying goodbye to a fellow soldier is a hard thing to do. Saw many friends from my National Guard days. It is a shame it takes something like this to bring us together.


-- Posted by Hellomynameis on Sat, Feb 16, 2008, at 12:10 PM

re smart dismissals

Cape schools also let the high school out earlier so that they can be at home when their younger siblings get there.

-- Posted by conservababe on Sat, Feb 16, 2008, at 12:12 PM

Phelps and his group are not Christians nor do they have a "church". Mr Phelps preaches only to his family members from his pulpit. He, himself, is a disbarred lawyer and many in his family are lawyers. They are "grifters" who come out as a group to protest funerals hoping their actions will cause a reaction so that they can sue. Actually, they have made millions in this manner.

-- Posted by conservababe on Sat, Feb 16, 2008, at 12:36 PM

We would like to thank all the hundreds of employees of the various utility companies who drove in from out of our area to help restore power. I heard someone say, "all they're doing is standing around", well I thought that too, but they all had to wait on other sections of lines to be fixed that are feeder lines before they could get the go ahead to throw the switches so power would be restored in the correct manner. They didn't like waiting either, but there is a process and you just can't speed it up with so many lines down. I'd like to have seen any of us going out there to do their job. Thanks to Ameren/Rural Electric companies for the LONG hours your people worked. I know it is their job, but it is a hard one in dangerous times of working around ice/broken and shattered trees that could fall on them or their equipment.

-- Posted by Let'scommunicate on Sat, Feb 16, 2008, at 12:48 PM

fajar, Hillary talk isn't half as bad as George W's stupidity and actions. Send your in-laws to my house. They'll feel right at home.

-- Posted by iago on Sat, Feb 16, 2008, at 2:39 PM

Off-topic: Our electricity was restored late last night. I came in today to plug in and turn on the computer, and...the power supply had been zapped. Borrowed one from a friend. Just wanted to check in & let you all know we survived...Really looking forward to the clean-up now--Not really! Hope you all made it through in good shape. Talk to you later: 150+ e-mails to plow through.


-- Posted by gurusmom on Sat, Feb 16, 2008, at 3:54 PM


Tell us of your ordeal. You live out in the 'boonies' somewhere, right?

-- Posted by conservababe on Sat, Feb 16, 2008, at 4:00 PM

I am thankful to report no we saw no protestors at or near the graveyard service. It was very, very honorable and touching.

-- Posted by coke zero on Sat, Feb 16, 2008, at 5:06 PM


If I recall correctly, you commented on "real" taps a while back. You will be happy to hear, there was a real bugle-man.

-- Posted by coke zero on Sat, Feb 16, 2008, at 5:09 PM


I am so glad to hear this. Did they also have the twenty-one gun salute?

-- Posted by conservababe on Sat, Feb 16, 2008, at 6:29 PM

Deceased active military can request a drill team from Fort Leonardwood to do the ceremony. They will always have a "real" bugle. The local VFW teams have opted out of using the real buglers due to availability, but on occasion utilize buglers from local high schools.

-- Posted by Proud_Democrat on Sat, Feb 16, 2008, at 6:36 PM


There was a gun salute, I heard 3 shots by multple shooters. Forgive me, I do not understand how the gun salutes work.

Estimating between 400-500 attended, Pups and I stood towards the back, so could not really see how many shooters there were.

After the service, we met up with out biker friend-Librule (who I believe held a flag for the Patriot Riders), to say a quick hello.

-- Posted by coke zero on Sat, Feb 16, 2008, at 6:45 PM

gurusmom, So glad to hear you and pops are okay! Was starting to worry!

bethie, Same for you, hubby and bebe!

Aggie & Twiggy, Worried about you guys... hope you make it home safely and not too much mess to face on your R&R.

Cannedheat, And the beat goes on, yes, the beat goes on!!!

fajar154, Enjoy! We'll have to discuss the Clinton/Obama debate another time. hehe Between your lefty honey and your new buddies ... who knows we might just win you over one of these days! LMAO

-- Posted by coke zero on Sat, Feb 16, 2008, at 7:00 PM


Three volleys of seven guns = 21.

-- Posted by conservababe on Sat, Feb 16, 2008, at 8:09 PM

I was just watching the Food Network with Alton Brown showing the Bon Appetite magazine awards as best in the nation. A Bill Mike of Murphysboro won the bbq rib category for his 77th Street restaurant. Is anyone familiar with this place?

-- Posted by conservababe on Sat, Feb 16, 2008, at 8:15 PM

yes, babe, I guess we do live in the Boonies...although it hadn't seemed like it before Monday night! Might as well have been out in the middle of nowhere as right in town. In fact, oddly enough, friends out in the "country" had power restored 2 days before we did.

I'll give you a condensed version of the "experience". This is my 3rd power-out ice storm; that's too many for one lifetime, don't you think?

National Guard? We didn't see any. No news & no way to find out anything, as couldn't get out on our ice-covered street which was blocked by trees in all directions, cell phones weren't working, & naturally cordless phones don't work without electricity. Have a rotary phone, but no anwer, busy signal or recorded messages was all we could get calling power company or city hall. We kept in contact with neighbors (too slick to visit physically). Pops and son James entertained them by holding onto each other while falling down a lot while trying to get into the truck to get Pops' portable oxygen tank, and James fell into an ice-covered, water-filled ditch trying to drag limbs off the street; slid around pulling some of the limbs off the fence so the dog wouldn't decide to go check on her friends when we let her out.

Son in Cape (Say a prayer for him & his family: He is going through radiation now after completing his chemo) loaned us his generator. We could keep two electric heaters & a lamp going, then switch off so Pops could watch the news, plug in fridge for a couple hours, etc. James slid over there to pick it up Wednesday, but then kept sliding past our driveway trying to get home. Then he went out every few hours to fill up the generator, and give the Banties water. Tried to get neighbors to come bunk here, but only one friend did.

Now, looking out at a yard filled with maple and pine tree limbs. Many are on the roof, but James and I checked the attic--nothing seems to have come through, but probably did some shingle damage.

All brought back SUCH fond memories for Pops & I...of most kids sleeping upstairs in un-heated, un-insulated bedrooms, huddling around the gas space heater and/or wood stove in living room, trekking to the outhouse! Shoot, this was almost a breeze compared to those Good Old Days.

-- Posted by gurusmom on Sat, Feb 16, 2008, at 8:24 PM


I knew it...I just knew it that you would give a delightful narrative of your experience. I could almost SEE yall, I swear. LOL

Prayers for your son.

-- Posted by conservababe on Sat, Feb 16, 2008, at 8:51 PM

gurusmom, your maiden name initials wouldn't happen to be DB, would they?

-- Posted by nuit_de_trois_chiens on Sat, Feb 16, 2008, at 9:40 PM

Off topic, but I can't resist:

go to www.unclejayexplains.com and click on the one about Uncle Jay explains Congress's recess... funny, funny stuff!!

Uncle Jay explains blogs is funny, too.

-- Posted by nuit_de_trois_chiens on Sat, Feb 16, 2008, at 9:47 PM

Glad you enjoyed it, babe! Had to edit it down from about 3 pages...LOL...I tend to get too word-y when I start typing. Didn't even mention having to chase down & catch the Banties 3 evenings (kept them locked up Tue/Wed/Thu), because they get so confused when the ground is covered that they can't find their way "home."

nuit: "...your maiden name initials wouldn't happen to be DB..." No. None of my family living in the area is from around here: Might explain why we were left out of the Information Loop, and were some of the last in Marble Hill to get power? ;-)

Love Uncle Jay stuff, but ActiveX wouldn't let me open the ones on your link.

Everyone: Finally read all the Speak Outs & Comments (after reading all the news articles from Tue through today). Gee, I missed you all so much!

fajar: I am so pleased to read that SSG Skelton's memorial and procession were what he deserved. Wish I had known him.

-- Posted by gurusmom on Sat, Feb 16, 2008, at 10:54 PM

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