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Speak Out 11/16/07

Friday, November 16, 2007

Drainage memories

ON NOV. 4 the front page of the Southeast Missourian featured a picture of Lawrence Gilliland working on a drainage ditch for the Little River Drainage District. It brought back memories of his father, Newt Gilliland with his team of mules, along with others, digging out the drainage ditch at its beginning. How life repeats itself. One helps in the labor to build, and years after, one helps to preserve what his father and mother sweated to build for the future.

Broadway parking

Parking is a big roadblock to shopping on Broadway. To help bring shoppers to this area, perhaps the Esquire should be turned into off-street parking.

We paid for that?

WE NEEDED an outside firm to tell us that Broadway is shady, rough and not family friendly? What else will this city pay for to be handled by an outside firm?

Speeding officer

I JUST followed a Cape Girardeau police car from Wal-Mart to the Jackson Police Department on Jackson Boulevard. This officer was driving up to 55 mph in the 40 mph zone. He was not in uniform and was talking on his cell phone. If you or I were doing this in Cape Girardeau and that officer caught us, he'd give us a ticket. But he violates the law in Jackson. Something should be done. Is this what we're paying taxes for? To provide these off-duty officers cars to speed in? I think not.

Plenty of interest

I BET a lot more than five people run for District 1 commissioner in Cape Girardeau County. Everybody is looking for a job that pays $65,000 a year where you only work two and a half days a week. First-class county commissioners are supposed to be full-time positions. The Cape Girardeau County Commission shows up for its two sessions a week and goes to a few meetings. And that's it. No office hours. We should have 50 people running for these Easy Street jobs.

Exciting prospect

YOU HAD a great story about the Kingshighway/midtown area and the city's comprehensive plan. How exciting. Could Cape Girardeau have its own version of St Louis' Central West End some day? Develop it, and we will come.

City, do your job

REGARDING BROADWAY'S decaying buildings: According to Cape Girardeau's ordinances, it appears the city manager needs to identify the decaying buildings and owners and designate a building official and supervisor for each property. A written notice should be sent to the owner and a hearing held with 30 days given to repair, vacate or demolish the building. The owner has the right to appeal. The city attorney's job is to prosecute those who do not comply. Come on city officials, let's do our jobs.

Regard for cyclists

I AM also a commuting cyclist who regularly rides from Jackson to Cape Girardeau via Bainbridge to Route W. Despite blinking red lights in the rear and a bright white headlight, motorists act like I am not even there. I get honked at and am appalled and frightened when motorists pass on hills, corners and bridges with no regard for on coming vehicles. Perhaps leaving five minutes earlier, like a cyclist must do in order to arrive on time, would alleviate the need to speed around cyclists. Please give us a break. We are doing our part to save the planet and staying healthy at the same time.

More than a test

ANY TEACHER who deviates from full-time emphasis on trying to get students to perform better on the MAP test will incur the awful wrath of the administration but, if it's any solace, has my full support.

Hometown shamed

CONGRATS TO Cape Girardeau for becoming the laughingstock of Missouri with the Angel Food Ministry ordeal. I grew up in Cape and moved to St. Louis after I got married. The situation with the church and the city concerning Angel Food became news all over the state. People from all over are shaking their heads in disgust and waving their fingers at the people of my hometown. I am amazed and saddened. What has happened to the beloved city of my youth? What kind of people are living there now? I was planning on moving back with my family, but now I don't know how I can live in a city where powerful people turn their backs on those in need. This has been sad.

All about money

ATTEMPTS AT Broadway renovation in Cape Girardeau reveal nostalgia for the past, hope for the future and a voracious appetite for more pork.

Downtown advice

OLD TOWN Cape: Go to St. Charles, Mo., and other towns that have historic downtowns and are on a riverfront. Right now, that part of Cape Girardeau is a nightmare to drive through, with little or no businesses that would encourage anyone, whether residents or visitors, to frequent. At least clean it up down there.

Thanks for trams

MEMBERS OF American Legion Post 158 and Veterans of Foreign Wars Post 10495 would like to thank Mouser Steel for providing the trams for use in the Veterans Day parade in Jackson. These were used to transport those veterans who were unable to walk in the parade. We appreciate this opportunity to honor those who have sacrificed so much to defend our nation.

Trucks on Lexington

CAN SOMEONE please tell me why huge 18-wheel trucks carrying logs are allowed to use Lexington Avenue to cut from Highway 177 to U.S. 61? They block traffic, damage the streets and leave a trail of trash from the logs in their wake. Why isn't Lexington closed to trucks?

Religious hypocrisy

I WOULD bet anything that those of you who are saying we should tax churches and regulate their works are the same people who would come unglued and scream "separation of church and state" if your local public school began to teach a religion class or assign Bible readings in literature classes. Hypocrites.

Blackout excuse

I WOULD like to comment on the rape and strangling of 9-year-old Rowan Ford. I am a 15-year recovering alcoholic. I have suffered blackouts. Her stepfather uses a blackout as an excuse. A blackout is a blackout. You don't remember it the next day.


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Exciting prospect, I see many improvements already taking place on Kingshighway. It is my understanding a local entrepreneur just signed a franchise agreement with Huddle House, to be opened on Kingshighway. I don't eat out often, but I enjoy a good Huddle House! Our community really needs to support LOCAL owners who are willing to take these enormous financial risk! Hope this project works out well!

-- Posted by coke zero on Fri, Nov 16, 2007, at 5:57 AM

All about money, "and a voracious appetite for more pork."

I don't understand this part of the comment. Could someone enlighten me as to what this individual means?

-- Posted by coke zero on Fri, Nov 16, 2007, at 6:00 AM

Speeding Officer:

Its good to know that there are those out there that have nothing better to do in life then to follow off-duty officers and report to all what they do wrong. Oh, by the way, how do you know how fast they were going, unless you, too, were breaking the law?

-- Posted by KingsKid on Fri, Nov 16, 2007, at 6:53 AM

Downtown advice: "little or no businesses" what about Renaissance, McGinty Jewelers,Lang Jewelers,Jayson Jewelers,..Made in Missouri,Patricia Ann's,just to name a few for encouragement.

-- Posted by IonU on Fri, Nov 16, 2007, at 7:36 AM

Check out GlassBooth.org:

This website asks you questions about your views on current issues and then matches your views with presidential candidate's position. It gives you the percentage of agreement on these topics with the candidates. You can also check out how your views match to all other candidates.

While, I would NOT use this tool as a sole method for choosing who I plan to vote for, it did confirm my own research (and offered a new candidate for me to check out). It appears my views lean towards the Democratic Candidates. (Sorry Ron Paul fans, he was last in agreement of my views.)

http://glassbooth.org/

-- Posted by coke zero on Fri, Nov 16, 2007, at 7:36 AM

ILICGBIW2, What a GREAT idea! Someone should publish a story about stores/businesses that ARE owned by LOCAL individuals! Now that would be good READING!

-- Posted by coke zero on Fri, Nov 16, 2007, at 7:44 AM

Melange,took the test and aligned with Tancredo

-- Posted by Aggiefan/Twiggy on Fri, Nov 16, 2007, at 8:05 AM

Aggiefan, 72% Biden, 71% Obama, 69% Clinton & 68% Edwards. I had been leaning towards Edwards. Had not even checked out Biden, will need to do some homework.

-- Posted by coke zero on Fri, Nov 16, 2007, at 8:20 AM

Joe Sullivan hit the nail right on the head in his column today.

-- Posted by conservababe on Fri, Nov 16, 2007, at 8:27 AM

hilleco, Good, glad the website confirmed your views too! Have you had a chance to check out yesterday's post yet? I threw some thoughts/concerns out about Broadway community involvement. Would really love to know what you think! Despite our obvious differences of opinions, I truly respect your input. They help me review issues from all sides and think more critically!

-- Posted by coke zero on Fri, Nov 16, 2007, at 8:31 AM

babe, I liked Joe's comments too! Seems to me there are more serious issues Senator's should be addressing.

-- Posted by coke zero on Fri, Nov 16, 2007, at 8:32 AM

melange

Aren't most businesses locally owned?

-- Posted by conservababe on Fri, Nov 16, 2007, at 8:32 AM

babe, You know, I don't know for sure...I bet NOT nearly as many as one might think. Would be interesting to find out!

-- Posted by coke zero on Fri, Nov 16, 2007, at 8:33 AM

melange

Aren't most franchises owned by local folks, if you count the Drurys. The Chamber of Commerce must have those stats.

-- Posted by conservababe on Fri, Nov 16, 2007, at 8:37 AM

babe, For example, Shannon Davis owns the 3 McDonald's in Cape (per an article today). However, according to an article ran 11/13/06 she owned 11 in Southeast Missouri. LOCAL owner???

-- Posted by coke zero on Fri, Nov 16, 2007, at 8:38 AM

babe, I would say not necessarily so. No reason someone out of state could not own a franchise in Cape.

-- Posted by coke zero on Fri, Nov 16, 2007, at 8:39 AM

melange

I think that the whole point of Joe's column was the sheer hypocrisy of our Congress. As in...for me, but not for thee. LOL

-- Posted by conservababe on Fri, Nov 16, 2007, at 8:42 AM

babe, If you can break away for Lunch today, it is at Grecian Steak House today at noon.

ALL are welcome! Well rounded nice group of people, group changes a bit every week.

-- Posted by coke zero on Fri, Nov 16, 2007, at 8:44 AM

RE: Speeding officer

I wonder how this caller knew that the officer was "driving up to 55 mph in the 40 mph zone."

RE: Downtown advice

Not only does St. Charles possess a population about double that of Cape, but the Ameristar Casino has brought in the majority of the funds that has paid for St. Charles' downtown area revitalization. Here's my advice: if you want a grand downtown area, find a large source of income--like a riverboat casino--and tax the **** out of it.

RE: Trucks on Lexington

I would rather be stuck behind a truck on Lexington as opposed to Bertling-Perryville-Cape Rock, Broadway, or Independence. I'd like to see an 18-wheeler make a right turn from southbound 177 onto westbound Broadway. I guess they could go all the way down to Route 74, but they are really going out of their way.

-- Posted by ynot on Fri, Nov 16, 2007, at 8:51 AM

Does the Grecian have handicapped parking by the door?

-- Posted by conservababe on Fri, Nov 16, 2007, at 8:52 AM

Not going to make lunch today. Mrs Aggie has a Dr appt.

-- Posted by Aggiefan/Twiggy on Fri, Nov 16, 2007, at 8:53 AM

I like some of the antique stores down on main street. A couple of them get in some very neat items.

-- Posted by SuperBethie21 on Fri, Nov 16, 2007, at 8:56 AM

Shannon Davis owns the 3 McDonald's in Cape (per an article today). However, according to an article ran 11/13/06 she owned 11 in Southeast Missouri. LOCAL owner???

Just a couple side notes from having a SIL who worked at one of the Cape McDonald's for a couple of years--

1. Shannon Davis is a guy, if I remember right. He would come in and work at the Cape stores fairly frequently.

2. They may own a wide number of stores--but they do actually reside in the Cape Girardeau area. Thus---they are local, even if the idea isn't popular.

That would be like saying the Drurys (who reside here) are not local because they own hotels in other states.

-- Posted by SuperBethie21 on Fri, Nov 16, 2007, at 9:00 AM

babe, They do have a ramp to the sidewalk and very close parking. Honestly, never noticed where their handicapped spots are marked. I've always been able to park very close. If anyone needs assistance, I would be more than happy to help out.

-- Posted by coke zero on Fri, Nov 16, 2007, at 9:00 AM

SuperBethie21, OH, I looked for a he/she reference in the articles...hehe I guessed wrong. I was NOT saying he was not a local owner, I was questioning because I did not know. I commented there was no reason why he might NOT be local. Obviously, he does not live in every town he owns McDonalds in. That was my point!

Love his McDonalds! Not always happy with the service, but I understand how difficult fast food establishments are to manage, so I don't complain unless it is a really BIG boo boo.

-- Posted by coke zero on Fri, Nov 16, 2007, at 9:08 AM

SuperBethie21, Drury's would NOT be local in the OTHER states...that was my point. I am curious who the LOCAL owners are, because I personally would like to support LOCAL owners. This will encourage more locals to invest in OUR city.

-- Posted by coke zero on Fri, Nov 16, 2007, at 9:10 AM

Aggiefan, You know some linger till about 2pm, stop by if you can make it after the appointment. I don't think Grecian's owner (who is LOCAL) will mind.

-- Posted by coke zero on Fri, Nov 16, 2007, at 9:12 AM

I see your point melange. I wasn't trying to accuse you.

I'm just thinking of some of the past debates that have flowered on here.

I definitely wouldn't consider for example, Mr. Hilton, local because we have a Hampton Inn. LOL

I definitely agree with you.

-- Posted by SuperBethie21 on Fri, Nov 16, 2007, at 9:19 AM

prudentdriver, Casino might bring tons of revenue...but what does it do to the long term economy. Sure we might be able to polish the entire city with the revenues, but the new businesses may not survive for long. Individual disposable income MAY be redirected to the casino, NOT to eating out, shopping for nick nacks, buying a new tv, putting food on the table, getting little Johnny or Suzie their back to school clothes, buying a car or family healthcare etc.

BTW I am not against gambling, happen to enjoy it very much on rare occasions. I don't want gambling TOO close, the rewards are not worth the communities trade off for ME. Just my thoughts...

-- Posted by coke zero on Fri, Nov 16, 2007, at 9:20 AM

anyone having trouble getting this page to update? I know I asked before..but it's really driving me nuts.

-- Posted by SuperBethie21 on Fri, Nov 16, 2007, at 9:35 AM

To Update: Try pushing ctrl and F5 keys at the same time.

-- Posted by coke zero on Fri, Nov 16, 2007, at 9:47 AM

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-- Posted by SuperBethie21 on Fri, Nov 16, 2007, at 9:50 AM

You can also hit the refresh icon.

-- Posted by Aggiefan/Twiggy on Fri, Nov 16, 2007, at 9:52 AM

Refresh works for us, might not for others

-- Posted by Aggiefan/Twiggy on Fri, Nov 16, 2007, at 9:54 AM

Speaking of buying local, does anyone know where I can purchase a trifle dish?

-- Posted by conservababe on Fri, Nov 16, 2007, at 9:57 AM

Awesome! Ctrl F5 works. I tried refresh many times but it wouldn't do anything..

I was like..hrmm...

I know they are talking... =P

LOL

-- Posted by SuperBethie21 on Fri, Nov 16, 2007, at 9:58 AM

Babe, trifle dish? Like in the dessert?

I personally love antique dishes, especially footed bowls. Trifle desserts seem to be a lost art, and I haven't seen many new dishes, (but honestly, don't "shop" that much anymore). However, I think I heard Martha Stewart has a line at Macy's now, they might have something. She seems to renew past traditions.

-- Posted by coke zero on Fri, Nov 16, 2007, at 10:08 AM

We paid for that?

WE NEEDED an outside firm to tell us that Broadway is shady, rough and not family friendly? What else will this city pay for to be handled by an outside firm?

I grow weary of people complaining about the outside firm conducting surveys. This was paid for by the grant of the DREAM Initiative.

-- Posted by SWBG on Fri, Nov 16, 2007, at 10:31 AM

trifle bowl at Target for $9.99

-- Posted by justforfun on Fri, Nov 16, 2007, at 10:34 AM

Is someone married to a cop here?

-- Posted by outnabout on Fri, Nov 16, 2007, at 10:35 AM

outnabout

Do you mean LEO?

-- Posted by conservababe on Fri, Nov 16, 2007, at 10:46 AM

melange, sure, I agree with your thoughts about the lack of revenue to local establishments if a casino were to be built close by (it'll never happen, however)--as far as I'm concerned, let all of the stupid people spend all of their income in a casino. Unfortunately, the city fathers don't understand that we need to use the small amount of funds that we currently have to upgrade our existing infrastructure before we go and revitalize any part of the city such as downtown. All of this talk about revamping Broadway and the downtown area doesn't possess any merit because there is no money for it. Instead of applying for "beautification" grants, the city needs to apply for "maintenance" grants.

-- Posted by ynot on Fri, Nov 16, 2007, at 10:51 AM

A Casino would save Downtown Cape and probably Broadway as well!Melange;These gamblers still have to eat and drink and sleep and buy fuel and even watch tv.I

will never use its machines or tables but would probably use its other spin-off buisneses.

Restaurants,shops and entertainment etc..

We missed the boat(no pun intended) when we lost our bid years back for casino boat on the river front.This in my opinion was a great loss but I could be wrong!

-- Posted by GREYWOLF on Fri, Nov 16, 2007, at 11:04 AM

Casinos are not bad for the community. I used to work at Harrahs in Tunic/Robinsonville MS as an EMT. Tunica county went from being the third pourest county in the country to being one of the most lucrative in just a few years. The casinos provide mega tax revenue and also are major charitable contributers to local causes and programs.

-- Posted by DARTHJASON on Fri, Nov 16, 2007, at 11:22 AM

OOPS! Tunica, I forgot the a.

-- Posted by DARTHJASON on Fri, Nov 16, 2007, at 11:22 AM

and poorest too. Sorry new baby = lack of sleep!

-- Posted by DARTHJASON on Fri, Nov 16, 2007, at 11:23 AM

Grey

Anyone going to a casino is not going to visit local business for food, drink, entertainment or lodging. Surely you have noticed that the casinos furnish everything so that the gamers never have to leave the premises. Gamblers want to gamble, period.

-- Posted by conservababe on Fri, Nov 16, 2007, at 11:43 AM

prudent

Why does everyone feel that grants are 'free money'? It's just pork coming out of our taxpayer dollars.

-- Posted by conservababe on Fri, Nov 16, 2007, at 11:47 AM

Conservababe,

Tell that to the folks in St.Charles,Mo.

I disagree!Many small buisneses could benifit.Not to mention what the Casino offers.It may indeed require some more green space and parking areas but just raise the buildings that are in the way and watch progress downtown move at warp speed!The revenue it would bring in would help the City coffers in a big way as well.I disagree with your thoughts but I realize I may be wrong.

-- Posted by GREYWOLF on Fri, Nov 16, 2007, at 12:01 PM

Folks who come to gamble would not be bringing their underage children nor their pets. BTW, Charleston has had a downturn in their revenues.

-- Posted by conservababe on Fri, Nov 16, 2007, at 1:07 PM

Conservababe,

Do you mean Caruthersville?

Bad location!!Cape is a perfect fit for a Casino.It just won't happen though.So lets move on.

-- Posted by GREYWOLF on Fri, Nov 16, 2007, at 1:59 PM

prudentdriver, "...upgrade our existing infrastructure before we go and revitalize any part of the city..."

What parts of the infrastructure do you think need to be upgraded? (Not attacking, just curious.)

-- Posted by coke zero on Fri, Nov 16, 2007, at 2:13 PM

Once again everyone needs to be reminded that the Corp of Engineers has reported that there is no location a riverboat casino can be safely moored near downtown Cape Girardeau. The navigation channel comes way too close to the shore there and it would be a disaster waiting to happen. You can argue the pros and cons of it all you want but it ain't gonna happen!

-- Posted by Data48 on Fri, Nov 16, 2007, at 2:53 PM

Grey, let's not move on just yet. There is a reason that casino owners don't mind putting them in bad locations. They realize that casinoes are virtually self contained by the services provided to the gamers. If they are not bussed in then they park in a high security lot with escort service or stay in the casino owned hotel. The gamers then eat at huge cheap buffets or more expensive cuisine onboard. Big name entertainers make the casino circuit all year. And alcohol drinks are free or at a minimal price. Even the occasional visitor who comes to Cape for the sites would probably go to the casino, put a few nickles in the slots, have a drink and meal and go.

In other words, I don't think most gamers that would come to the casino and shop for antique furniture.

-- Posted by conservababe on Fri, Nov 16, 2007, at 3:09 PM

How was Lunch

-- Posted by Aggiefan/Twiggy on Fri, Nov 16, 2007, at 3:17 PM

conservababe, when did I say that grants were free money?

melange, for example, take a drive down any number of Cape's streets and you'll notice a poor ride which is indicative of pavement that doesn't meet today's smoothness standards. Don't forget about all of the drainage issues we have when it actually rains (although, that might never happen again considering the lack of rain over the past year or so). According to the Americans with Disabilities Act, only a handful of our sidewalks meet current accessibility requirements. I have concerns with the older parts of the sewerage and water systems. Although it isn't exactly a city issue, overhead utilities should be a thing of the past in 2007. Speaking of utilities, the city has a tendency to allow the grouping dissimilar utilities right next to and on top of each other--a nightmare when a contractor has to excavate.

-- Posted by ynot on Fri, Nov 16, 2007, at 3:24 PM

Data

Do the state statues even state that a casino in Mo has to be moored on a waterway?

-- Posted by conservababe on Fri, Nov 16, 2007, at 3:25 PM

Hilleco,

I do not understand your question concerning

hwy 74 from the bridge to I-55.Although not an interstate or a freeway it is a four lane

divided by barriers with access to 6 cross roads.There are stop n go lights at 5 of these locations.Not sure why you would build a freeway less then 3 miles long to connect

the Bridge with I 55.I-66 is nothing more then a pipe dream right now.To build a freeway would have required a much higher elevation and several bridges with a huge price tag for Missouri tax payers.

-- Posted by GREYWOLF on Fri, Nov 16, 2007, at 3:25 PM

Hilleco,

Isn't that what hwy 74 is? A connection from the bridge to hwy 55?

-- Posted by Pups on Fri, Nov 16, 2007, at 3:44 PM

Aggie,

Missed you at lunch. It was good. Would have liked your input and that of Twiggy just to add to the diversity/agreement of others there. The time actually flies by when the discussions start. lol Maybe after you get back from your trip for the holidays.

-- Posted by Pups on Fri, Nov 16, 2007, at 3:51 PM

In regards to the question about running a freeway from I-55 to the bridge -

An interstate-grade highway would have essentially made travel to the south portion of Cape extremely limited and would have required some type of overpass construction. Also, there would likely have been the need for one or more interchanges in between, which also requires more real estate to be acquired for the project.

I trust that the additional costs required for a full interstate-grade thoroughfare were compared against the expected traffic counts over the next 10-20 years.

Toward the interstate's benefit - the faster the traffic can move through an area, the less dense the traffic will be - well, at least up until the time someone wipes out and blocks lanes.

Difficult to consider any future I-66 plans, since the final path had/has not yet been identified, at least to my knowledge.

This unfortunately isn't the "Field of Dreams", and even if that section had been built to interstate-spec, it wouldn't have guaranteed the I-66 tie-in would have come this way.

As it is, several streets were severed, with a limited-access type of highway philosophy used.

Again, I suggest it was a compromise between monies available now versus anticipated future growth needs.

-- Posted by fxpwt on Fri, Nov 16, 2007, at 3:54 PM

I have to agree with the poor street conditions around town.

I have a vehicle with a very stiff suspension, by choice. Some of these roads really rattle my teeth. It makes one appreciate just how far the art of engineered suspensions has evolved. Also, the occasional irregularity problems are soon resolved after a ride around town in the beater :-)~

Would love to take whatever official it was that was taking a 'seat of the pants' tour of roadways along for a ride.

-- Posted by fxpwt on Fri, Nov 16, 2007, at 4:04 PM

prudentdriver, Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

Hilleco, Yes, I have some infrastructure thoughts of my own, but it never hurts to solicit another's thoughts on the topic also.

Speaking of drainage issues, it wasn't so long ago that Kingshighway had very serious flash flood issues. Cape has made headway on some issues. (Please correct me, it was Kingshighway, right?)

Oh, almost forgot I checked in with the City and the DREAM plans will be another year to year and a half. It is my understanding those plans will include ole'town, Broadway etc. So, we won't be seeing a lot of improvements to Broadway, anytime soon. I have successfully contacted one owner on Broadway that will accept community help on their building and lot. This "new" owner is working hard to improve their property, but they could use the communities help.

If anyone knows another owner on Broadway or Ole'town that needs and would like community/volunteer help, have them contact Heather at the City Hall/City Manager's office. She will get the information to the 2008 Make a Difference Day committee, and we will match volunteers to their needs.

Still gathering info on the Reynold's house, will keep you posted.

-- Posted by coke zero on Fri, Nov 16, 2007, at 4:13 PM

Took the Pres. quiz. ****!!! Vote for the guy that most represents my views, or the guy with the best chance of defeating commrade Hillary? Dilemas, Dilemas.

-- Posted by FreedomFadingFast on Fri, Nov 16, 2007, at 4:14 PM

fxpt

Couldn't agree with you more on road conditions on this side of the river. That's why I do most of my Harley riding on the Illinois side. (Well, that and no helment law in Illinois) Difference in road smoothness is night and day.

-- Posted by FreedomFadingFast on Fri, Nov 16, 2007, at 4:17 PM

librule, Please wear your helmet!!! (I would really miss your views!) Does Mrs. Librule know you shed your helmet?

Curious, did the quiz match the candidate you had been leaning towards?

-- Posted by coke zero on Fri, Nov 16, 2007, at 4:24 PM

hilleco - I agree that the interstate-grade approach would have been a great choice, if money were no object.

But eventually, someone somewhere has to report to the taxpayers and would have had to justify that the additional construction expense now would be less costly than the cost of a potential upgrade later.

I'm guessing that this justification couldn't be successfully argued.

-- Posted by fxpwt on Fri, Nov 16, 2007, at 4:27 PM

Hilleco, I guess I misunderstood your question. Sorry

Melange,

The quiz gave me someone that doesn't really have a chance of winning the nomination, but there were some close.

Oh, and not nice to threaten with blackmail about the helmet. LMAO

-- Posted by Pups on Fri, Nov 16, 2007, at 4:38 PM

PUPSLOVER, ~giggling~ I hope librule (and you) know I wouldn't tell the Mrs. I was just teasing him. LOL

-- Posted by coke zero on Fri, Nov 16, 2007, at 4:42 PM

LOL I know Melange, hope Librule does. LOL

-- Posted by Pups on Fri, Nov 16, 2007, at 4:45 PM

melange

There are 2 candidates that I am leaning towards. My match was one of them.

Yea, Mrs. Librule knows that I sometimes go helmentless. Says that's fine as long as my life insurance premiums paid up. LOL!

Have read many studies on motorcycle accidents with and without helments. Percentage of fatalities are virtually the same with or without helments according to most studies. But then again some show less fatalities with helments, so who knows. (Believe it or not, I never ride/drive in a car without my seatbelt, so go figure that one.)

-- Posted by FreedomFadingFast on Fri, Nov 16, 2007, at 4:48 PM

Hilleco,

your point is well taken concerning the thought process of these engineers were graduating these days.Infrastructure consist

of more then just roads and Cape has several issues in regards to these problems.What City doesn't.Its true that most of the retail and restaurant buisness has migrated to the interstate but Cape is lucky enough to have three interchanges with a fourth on the way.

From any of those, downtown is less then 4 minutes via auto or motorcycle.Cape is a great city with huge potential it will take shakers and makers to forsee the future and develop a plan now to implement asap!My fear is we do not have the individuals who are willing to use common sense rather then "looking outdside the box"!I hate that expression!Sometimes you neeed to understand and know whats inside the box before venturing beyond it!Just my pennies worth!

-- Posted by GREYWOLF on Fri, Nov 16, 2007, at 4:56 PM

librule, I'm guessing she'd miss you too! ~giggling~ Very loud!

Regarding helmets, I have a good friend who shares the same safety debate. I'm just a worry wart.

-- Posted by coke zero on Fri, Nov 16, 2007, at 4:56 PM

Just my two cents worth, but the Church is tax exempt, but the minister should not be. He is paid an income. I am paid an income from a not for profit employer but I still pay taxes on my income.

-- Posted by Pups on Fri, Nov 16, 2007, at 5:00 PM

librule, Some have shared that the experience of the "ride" is just not the same with a helmet on. Perhaps that is why you like to go without? vs never failing to wear your seatbelt. (Another portion of the debate I've heard by other riders.)

-- Posted by coke zero on Fri, Nov 16, 2007, at 5:06 PM

Re: Trucks on Lexington

Lexington is a truck route, and that is why trucks use it.

When you feel yourself wanting to complain about trucks, think about everything you have...everything from the car you are driving...including the fuel you pump into your tank and the road you are driving on...to the clothes on your back, to the house or apartment building you go home to each night, to the food on your dinner table...and even the dinner table itself...EVERYTHING you have got to you because there are truckers who spend time away from their families and friends to be out on the road hauling the raw materials from their source to the manufacturer, from the manufacturer to the distributor, and from the distributor to the store for you to buy.

-- Posted by dixietrucker on Fri, Nov 16, 2007, at 5:10 PM

Not to mention, truckers are some of the safest and most experienced drivers around.

-- Posted by FreedomFadingFast on Fri, Nov 16, 2007, at 5:12 PM

Re: helmets

Wasn't so much concerned with the fatality aspect, more to having my noggin' irreversibly dented or scrambled.

-- Posted by fxpwt on Fri, Nov 16, 2007, at 5:18 PM

Librule,

For the most part I agree that most truckers/haulers are very safe drivers. Though I have experienced some that took joy out of "grazing" cars on the side of the road. Like with everything there are always some that don't follow the rules. I give truckers/haulers extreme respect on the road. One because they have a hard and important job, and two, they can squash me like a bug if I get in there way. LOL

-- Posted by Pups on Fri, Nov 16, 2007, at 5:19 PM

...and I just took the quiz:

Duncan Hunter 88%

Tom Tancredo 84%

Mike Huckabee 74%

Not far off from what I would have expected based upon what I have read about each of the candidates.

-- Posted by dixietrucker on Fri, Nov 16, 2007, at 5:25 PM

melange

I'm curious as to how long you have lived in Cape, if you don't mind answering.

-- Posted by conservababe on Fri, Nov 16, 2007, at 5:27 PM

Pupslover-

You would be amazed at the number of motorists who do not realize that. Even when I am EMPTY, I am 5 times the weight of the largest SUV on the road. Loaded, it would be like a 10 pound infant challenging a 130 pound adult. If you are in a small car instead of a large SUV, that is more like a 10 pound infant challenging a 320 pound adult. Bottom line, the car will lose every time. Most truckers realize that and take their jobs seriously, but just like in every other profession, a single dumb move by one bad apple undoes the positive actions of 100 good professionals who take the responsibilities of the job seriously.

-- Posted by dixietrucker on Fri, Nov 16, 2007, at 5:37 PM

Pups

Ministers do pay income taxes.

-- Posted by conservababe on Fri, Nov 16, 2007, at 5:45 PM

Of the 11 yrs of OTR driving I've had one accident. A drunk driver hit us head-on in New Mexico. We hit eachother doing 70 mph. He was only 19 yrs old and It was his 4th DWI. Unfortunatly his last. Actually Mrs. Aggie was driving, but the effects lasted long after for both of us. Kinda like "gun-shy".

We are safe and polite to other drivers, not to tailgate or cut others off. My one complaint to smaller vehicles is when they just have to get in front of me and hit their brakes becouse they dont want to be behind me going through a construction zone or to make an exit. People need to realize we are 80,000 lbs. to their 2000 lbs. I've seen the outcome of those situations when a big rig cant stop in time.

People need to have patience, why put you and other lives at risk because you dont want to be behind a rig? Stupid and reckless driving.

-- Posted by Aggiefan/Twiggy on Fri, Nov 16, 2007, at 5:46 PM

Conservababe,

Sorry, I misread what the poster was saying.

Totally agree Aggie. Though will admit to having made that choice sometimes. Seeing only a huge grill in my rearview mirror is reminder for me to be more careful. lol

-- Posted by Pups on Fri, Nov 16, 2007, at 5:50 PM

Hello dixietrucker

I'm wondering if you have ever watched the "Ice Road Truckers" on the history channel?

-- Posted by conservababe on Fri, Nov 16, 2007, at 5:52 PM

conservababe,

In answer to your question, yes. Unless the laws have been recently changed and I didn't hear about it all casinos in the state of Missouri by law must be a boat afloat in a body of water. If you'll recall there was a controversy over the Riverport casino in Maryland Heights over this very subject. They dug a channel inland from the Missouri River to float it in and some that that was breaking the rules. The gambling boats also used to have to actually cruise the waterways in an attempt to sell them as "excursion" boats but they dropped that pretense some years back.

-- Posted by Data48 on Fri, Nov 16, 2007, at 5:58 PM

Its more aggravating when the vehicle that cuts me off is full of children. God it makes me nauseated.

-- Posted by Aggiefan/Twiggy on Fri, Nov 16, 2007, at 6:01 PM

Aggiefan

You and your wife are a driving team? It must be nice to work together. Tell me, did yall ever have arguments about maps and direction before GPS? giggle

-- Posted by conservababe on Fri, Nov 16, 2007, at 6:01 PM

aggiefan, dixietrucker

Know exactly what your talking about. Dad drove semi for 36yrs and when brothers and sister and I began driving, he made it a point to teach us about sharing the road with trucks. Learned even more after earning my Class A CDL and driving for soda company before taking current job.

-- Posted by FreedomFadingFast on Fri, Nov 16, 2007, at 6:06 PM

No not really, I've learned my lesson yrs ago, she's right I'm wrong.

Yea we are team drivers, we had to wait till the kids were grown. But I wouldnt have anyother way. She is everything to me. And I enjoy having her with me everyday.

God has blessed me many ways, Mrs Aggie tops them all.

-- Posted by Aggiefan/Twiggy on Fri, Nov 16, 2007, at 6:09 PM

Yes, Conservababe, I watched every episode. If I ever see it on the shelf in the store, I'm definitely going to buy it....great show. If I didn't hate cold weather like I do, I wouldn't mind doing that myself.....but I hate the cold.

-- Posted by dixietrucker on Fri, Nov 16, 2007, at 6:11 PM

Aggiefan

What a beautiful compliment to your wife and marriage. Tell Mrs Aggie that she is a lucky woman, indeed, or else she has trained you right. LOL

-- Posted by conservababe on Fri, Nov 16, 2007, at 6:17 PM

dixietrucker

http://store.aetv.com/html/product/index...

-- Posted by conservababe on Fri, Nov 16, 2007, at 6:26 PM

dixietrucker,

From what I understand, it isn't the cold that would have me rattled. It's the ice and the fact it's not always solid. Credit to those guys and what they do. WOW

-- Posted by Pups on Fri, Nov 16, 2007, at 6:40 PM

Babe,

I think Mrs Aggie can take Aggie out if she had to.

Sorry Aggie. LOL

-- Posted by Pups on Fri, Nov 16, 2007, at 6:42 PM

Mrs Aggie can take me any way she wants to. LOL :) :)

-- Posted by Aggiefan/Twiggy on Fri, Nov 16, 2007, at 8:12 PM

Ok Aggie,

Maybe a bit TMI on that one. LMAO But can see your point. Have a great night!

-- Posted by Pups on Fri, Nov 16, 2007, at 8:27 PM

Broadway parking,

Guess someone has been paying attention to the rants of this large bald guy. Esquire Theater is just to start. Lets turn all of Downtown Cape into a parking lot! The view of that graffiti (Wall Mural) will be unobstructed from all the way up to the Courthouse.

Speeding officer,

You should've pulled him over and made a Citizen's Arrest! Then we could all be laugh out loud at another moran doing the convulsive shakes after being tased a couple times. Probably posted by the Blue Hair who thinks the world is coming to an end because of speeders.

-- Posted by fajar154 on Fri, Nov 16, 2007, at 9:00 PM

dixietrucker,

Do you drive in or around Chicago? I do. I don't drive anything NEAR as large as you. I pull a Gooseneck trailer and have a 350 Deully. Nice for the long hauls, but like you, not enough respect given by other drivers.

Just try to keep it between the ditches.

Go Bears this weekend AND Mizzou. K State doesn't have a chance.

-- Posted by fajar154 on Fri, Nov 16, 2007, at 9:05 PM

Conservababe - Thanks for the link. I know I COULD get it through the History Channel's website too, but I don't shop online. I'm very impatient when it comes to my money. When it's taken from me, I want something to show for it right now...I want to be able to pay for it and carry it out with me.

Pupslover - I wouldn't be concerned about the ice. We are all only here until the good Lord calls us home. When that happens, if you don't fall through the ice, you'll have a heart attack, stroke, car wreck, tornado, hurricane, plane crash, flood, fire, earthquake, or if you're lucky, you'll just slip quietly away as you sleep. The cold, however, I find extremely unpleasant...and that's a situation that I DO have control over. It's bad enough when it gets down into the 20's around here on those cold winter nights. The HIGH temps up there were 40 below, and in my opinion that's just too darn cold for me to be doing ANYTHING that involves going outside.

-- Posted by dixietrucker on Fri, Nov 16, 2007, at 9:25 PM

Blackout excuse,

So is that an excuse to be exhonorated from all charges? Your right, it's a shame that that sort of thing had to happen, but the stepfather is the REAL victim here. The poor guy suffers from memory lose and others around him lose their lives well, by golly, lets help him with his horrible disease. I know of a great method. Table, strap, I.V. drip, go to sleeeeep for good.

How about the Hammaroby (sp) Code ? Eye for an eye. Tooth for a tooth. But thats just not PC.

The criminals have rights you know.

But the victims are still dead!

Sorry, kind of a sore subject to me. Just got off the road.

-- Posted by fajar154 on Fri, Nov 16, 2007, at 9:30 PM

Don't forget that Bush sucks and I barely make it through life knowing he is still in office. It consumes my very being on a daily basis.

A Democrat President will make everything better. Until then, I will apply for disability based on mental incapacitation due to George Bush's stupidity.

(I make perfect sense)

-- Posted by workin' them angels on Fri, Nov 16, 2007, at 10:30 PM

hmm, just to stir the pot a little :-) -

Wilson was president on the entry to WWI

Roosevelt was president on entry to WWII

Truman was president on entry to Korea

Kennedy was president on entry to Vietnam

Carter was president during the Iran hostage crisis and unbelievable inflation

Clinton's claim to fame may have a fluke as to being lucky enough to be in the right place at the right time when certain stars aligned, well - depending on one's view of the Lewinsky deal.

At any rate, suggest that the Democrats have some baggage as well. But most people seem to remember only recent history.

-- Posted by fxpwt on Fri, Nov 16, 2007, at 10:51 PM

No, you have it all wrong. The Democrats are the closest thing to God here on Earth. When we have a sitting Democrat President, we will all live in a utopia. No poverty, no hunger, world peace, global warming will cease, all of our fighting men and women will magically reappear at their respective home stations and Bin Laden will love us once again....

I can not wait. It will be a wonderful world.

(at least that is what the media tells us)

-- Posted by workin' them angels on Fri, Nov 16, 2007, at 10:59 PM

OK, workin'...you have some serious mental issues. How exactly will a Democrat make everything all better for you?

They are promising to give you free health care, which will be abused by people because it is "free", which leads to rationing of services meaning longer waits if you get treated at all (just look to Canada, the UK, and every other nationalized health care system and their longer waits, lower survival rates, and MUCH higher taxes to pay for it). Yup...that sounds spectacular.

They are promising increasing taxes on "the wealthy". How many "poor" or "middle class" people have you ever worked for? How many "wealthy" people have had a job available for you to fill? Take away their wealth through higher taxes and they have less to spend hiring people to work for them, which means more middle class and poor will be unemployed. Yup...that sounds great to me too.

They are promising "comprehensive" immigration reform, and we all know exactly what that entails: Amnesty. They want to make citizens all of the people who have broken the laws of this nation by coming here illegally. What other laws are they willing to overlook? Perhaps they should grant amnesty for bank robbers, because after all, they just needed money to put food on the table to feed their family because the jobs available to them didn't pay well enough (if there were any jobs to begin with) because of the influx of formerly illegal workers who are now legally competing with you for your job. Sounds like a fun road to travel, right?

Or maybe you are looking forward to another terrorist attack because the Democratic Presidential hopefuls have promised to repeal the Patriot Act, promised not to listen in on telephone conversations of known foreign terrorists if they happen to be talking with an affiliate currently inside our borders, and promised to hand Iraq and Afghanistan over to the radical extremists to use as safe havens to use as a base of operations where they can train and plot their next attack? Sounds pretty swell to me too.

I agree that Bush had serious problems....like his inability to reign in wasteful government spending until AFTER the GOP lost control of the congress....like his stubbornness when executing the war (he should have been MUCH more aggressive - more troops for the invasion, quicker with providing the extra troops with the surge when he realized security was becoming a problem)...like his record growth in the size of the federal government....among other things.

However, as bad as they have been, things could always be worse.

-- Posted by dixietrucker on Fri, Nov 16, 2007, at 11:13 PM

Look, when Hillary is President, the stars will align in sanctimonious harmony and all the problems of the world will be solved.

It is futile to resist. You will be assimilated. "Free" health care is just around the corner.

(Dixie, don't get all uptight, can't you see I am making Democrats look like the f'ing idiots they are?)

-- Posted by workin' them angels on Fri, Nov 16, 2007, at 11:28 PM

sorry...long week, late night...

I was hoping there was a bit of sarcasm in your post, but 'round here you never can tell...

-- Posted by dixietrucker on Fri, Nov 16, 2007, at 11:39 PM

babe, Sorry about the delay in response...I crashed very early yesterday. Now paying the consequences of that choice! LOL I grew up in Jackson/Gordonville, graduated in 1981. I moved to the Des Moines, IA area for 17 years, moved back to Cape 6 years ago this month. So if my math is correct, I have lived in the area 28 years of my 45.

-- Posted by coke zero on Sat, Nov 17, 2007, at 2:41 AM

dixietrucker:

You always seem to forget the fact that CONSUMERS PAY FOR SHIPPING COSTS. Beating the dead horse, it is your choice to drive a truck and, likewise, it is your choice to spend time away from your family. The only good thing about rising fuel costs is that fuel prices and truck traffic are inversely proportional.

-- Posted by ynot on Sat, Nov 17, 2007, at 8:05 AM


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