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A PRE-BIRTH baby didn't choose to be conceived. The baby's parents chose. The baby shouldn't have to pay with his/her life for the convenience of the parents. Some say the unborn baby is not a viable life and cannot sustain itself. How old were you before you could sustain your own life and pay for food and lodging? If someone had killed you before you were mature enough to make your own choices, would that be abortion or murder? God gave us free will. Who are we to take away the unborn baby's God-given free will?
CONGRATULATIONS TO the Saxony Lutheran High School band and choir for a wonderful performance on Wednesday night. You should all be proud of how far you've come. Keep up the hard work.
GOD GAVE us a choice, but he also gave murderers and rapists freedom of choice. Abortion is murder too. How can so many people wonder why bad things happen to good people when they all choose to do stupid things?
PEOPLE WHO live in brushy areas near San Diego should build fire-resistant houses. But what about us? We live in an earthquake zone and changing temperatures. Are there any suggestions about how houses and small buildings should be built here? We need houses that are earthquake-resistant and energy-efficient.
A HUGE thank you to Cape First and the recent girls' night out with Michelle McKinney Hammond. Praise God, and may he bless everyone who was involved.
I AGREE that socialization of students is an important function of schools, along with many others such as democratic factors and preparing students for lives beyond public education. But the true purpose always has been academics. What the teachers are struggling with is a balance between socialization and academics. Students unwilling to participate in the academic arena are having a negative impact on those who are there to do well.
THE GHOST-hunting class was a great offering. It was for two weekends and was designed to be enjoyed by those interested. It is a community offering by Southeast Missouri State University, not a semester college course. Students paid for the class, which covered the cost. Thank you, Southeast, for offering this in the community.
I'VE SEEN an alarming number of people neglecting to get out of the way of an emergency response team. Would you want someone to get in the way of a first responder or firetruck or ambulance if you needed one?
NOTHING PRESIDENT Bush has done in vetoing the ridiculous SCHIP funding bill proposed by Congress will cause the program to go away. He has asked for a 20 percent increase in funding for the program. The bill was vetoed because of its ridiculous level of coverage and the income level of those who would be eligible. It was nothing more than a way to get millions more on the dole and make them dependent on the government. SCHIP will continue. I do not think families with incomes in excess of $85,000 and children age 25 should be eligible unless something catastrophic happens. That's so obviously a political ploy to buy votes. It's scary that so many people buy into the idea.
IF THOSE who complain about our teachers would spend a day in their classroom they could see the real problem. The students are not taught respect at home and are constantly disruptive. I have spent several days assisting in an elementary classroom and am amazed that the teacher has to spend so much time trying to get the students to pay attention. If you think a teacher's job is easy, try it.
WITH ALL of the terrible pictures of houses burning in California, it is time to think about rebuilding houses with shake-shingle roofs. When you live in a fire zone, it would be much better to build houses with concrete walls and a concrete roof. You can have very pleasing architectural details and design without exposing the house to fire.
I WILL get a paltry 3.1 percent increase in my salary this year. By the time the deductions for Social Security and Medicare come out of my pay, my increase will amount to only about 2.8 percent. I too am on a fixed income and still have children at home to care for. In order for me to get a real raise, company profits have to allow the expenditure. Our company is keeping its head up, but it's not a multimillion-dollar corporation.
I LOVE trickle-down economics. I'd like to have a second drop. Maybe I could afford health insurance for my child.
I DON'T see why everyone has such a problem with universal health care. A large percentage of America receives Medicaid, plus the federal government gives money to rural health clinics to offer services at a discounted rate. If the money from both of these programs were put together, we could have coverage for everyone. I figure if my tax money is already being spent on these programs, why can't I have a piece of it?
BEING SEVERELY disabled, for the last few years I have lived on $624 a month, receiving $100 in food stamps and Medicaid, paying rent and utilities, and driving a 16-year-old car. I consider myself poor but fortunate. Surely the mother and son on the front page of Friday's paper have enough income to live better if they really wanted to do so. This woman owns property. To say that people cannot let go of their property because it is a part of who they are is unrealistic when one balances that against living as they do, in campers without running water or a sewage system.
WHAT DIFFERENCE does a teacher being out a few days make to a student's public education? I don't think a substitute (good or bad) can keep a student from making good grades or be the cause of a student making bad grades. I can't believe this is even an issue.
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What? No comments yet? Where are the "Bush sucks" and "Bush lied" comments? Come on you conspiracy nuts! Get with it! Tell us how everything evil in the world can be attributed to Bush.
What are you folks going to do when Bush leaves office? Who will you blame?
people are complaining about their pay per an hr. and ihave not got a pay raise in two almost three years and only make 7.65 per hour i have been with my job 7 years.I know of people who got pay raises and the employer took them away a month later when they had been on the job for 8 months. Live like this for awhile and see how you feel.
people are complaining about their pay per an hr. and ihave not got a pay raise in two almost three years and only make 7.65 per hour i have been with my job 7 years.I know of people who got pay raises and the employer took them away a month later when they had been on the job for 8 months. Live like this for awhile and see how you feel.
If you are upset with your pay increases then change jobs. Too many employers give out 3%-4% pay increases while if you broaden your horizons you can increase your salary 20%-30% by jumping ship. Unfortunately for all the preaching you'll hear about employee loyalty at 95% of companies it's just talk; the highest salaries almost always go to the job hoppers because they are in the best position to negotiate since they can show the market demand for their skills.
cmf2002: There are plenty of place that will pay well above 7.65 an hour. Heck I think most illegal immigrants make $8-$10 an hour without any English or few job skills... then again they are willing to do tough manual labor jobs. Don't even the easy telephone jobs (Drury, NARS, etc) pay more than that as well? If you are only making $7.65 it is because either your haven't looked around much or you value the type of job/working environment enough to make it worthwhile. Nothing wrong with taking less than your worth to work for a non-profit or if you require flexible working hours but it does have a financial cost.
Regarding the mother & son living in campers in Bollinger County: The article and subsequent TV news clip did not mention how much income the two receive, just that she receives a widow's pension and I believe they both get Social Security Disability. This suggests that they might have income enough to rent an apartment or house in the area (there is low-come/subsidized housing usually available, especially for the elderly and handicapped, which includes paid utilities). They could sell the land.
Sympathy is a good thing, but sometimes maybe we are sympathetic without knowing the whole story. Perhaps my son could be featured in one of the news articles: a man who works hard, along with his wife, to support their three children, but is now going through chemotherapy for cancer so his construction-hours are less, and expenses more. Oh, wait! No, we only help those who have little or no history of helping themselves.
Sorry, the injustice of it all just makes me angry, and sad.
Out of my paycheck:
How about this? Social Security will be raised less than 3% this coming year, while the Medicare payments will also raise. Then, as always, the Medicare supplements and Part D (at least for AARP subscribers) will also be raised. Therefore, many, if not most, people on Social Security will be seeing less income in 2008.
Glad to see Southeast Missouri and the caring of fellow man has not vanished. Are you people so righteous and self determined you can actually say you don't care about you neighbor or the kid down the street or across town. Grow up. People need help, yes everyone could sell everything they have to get health care, but why should they most have been hard working people.
I wish Hillary Clinton was a Republican, because if she was she would be in jail.
I won't blame everything bad in the world on Bush, but I can't think of anything good he has done. The sooner he leaves office the better. I wish it were today!
".....easy telephone jobs (Drury, NARS, etc)"
Unless you have worked at one of these don't say it is easy. Granted it is not tough physical labor but it isn't just a cake walk either.
Deport the illegal's, open up the job market. Lets put people who can work and are drawing money off of the government, our tax money, to work.
I know of two people who are playing the system in Texas, there is nothing wrong with them except a major case of laziness. The attitude that the government OWES them is insane.
For those of you who keep griping about the fires out in CA or anywhere else for that matter. Have you ever lost a home due to fire?? I have and I can still to this day see it burning down. You all should be ashamed of yourselves for saying those bad things, it's a devastating experience and one I hope never to have to relive. I was three at the time and we lost everything except the clothes on our backs, we were coming home and pulled up over the hill where our house was and watched it burn to the ground. I can still see that, and my parents in the front seat crying, thank God we weren't at home when it happened, but we still lost everything. The bad thing about it also is that when my Dad went to Salvation Army they wouldn't help us, they said how do we know your house burnt down. We had a place to stay with my grandparents thank goodness, but what the Salvation Army did was wrong and put a bad taste in our families mouth and as far as I know we still don't give to them, other organizations but not them. My point is don't condemn or judge those people or anyone for that matter if you have never experienced something like that.
Unfortunately there are always people out there who take advantage of people who are in the state of shock, and don't realize what is going on. Thanks goodness those out there in Ca have been warned of this, although it was to late for some of them because they had already been confronted by those crooks and some arrest have already been made.
I have a novel idea. Let's all just drop the abortion debate. How many of your lives' are impacted by this? How many of you walk down the street and someone sneaks up behind you and performs an abortion on you? Hey, cut that out!
This is a time wasting argument. If the GOP, you know, the anti-abortion party, really was concerned with this beyond getting votes, they would have changed it sometime in the past 7 years when they controlled the Presidency, the Congress and the Supreme Court. They didn't so they would still have the illusion that they are pushing a different agenda from the Democrats.
NEWSFLASH! Politicians do not care about you beyond receiving your votes! They will keep you arguing over meaningless issues and things that are none of the government's buisness just to keep you distracted from the real issues, like the formation of a North American Union, Imperialist Nation Building, making trillions off the killing of Americans and Iraqis, crushing of your civil liberties. The list goes on.
Isn't it funny that the same group that fights abortion is the same group that says 'I don't want to pay to raise someone else's child or pay for their healthcare!' Since the Democrats are cast as the let's hand out to everyone and socialist blah blah blah....you'd think they would be the ones against abortion. Pro-lifers want you to have that baby at all costs, as long as it's not THEIR costs.
Re:get out of the way:
Just an FYI to all of those people who don't get out of the way, there is an ambulance driver for Cape County Private Ambulance who writes down liscense plate numbers of the people who don't pull over and get out of the way! So you'd better start getting out of the way if you don't want a ticket coming in the mail!!!!
Some people don't want to get a pay raise. They figured out what rate of pay is the most beneficial to obtain welfare programs, Earned Income credit adn food stamps. Our system does not reward you to get a better paying job, since a $1 raise often results into losing $2 worth of welfare.
JJ,
Bravo! Very nice post. I couldn't agree more.
All these non-issues that get thrown out in the public arena; ie abortion, race, welfare, even cigarettes, are very easy for us to digest and understand. As long as they are recognized as non-issues, they are a lot of fun to debate. Unfortunately the ignorant embrace these non-issues passionately for the same reasons, and cast their votes in blind, faithful droves accordingly. For some the non-issue becomes a way of life.
I am just a little confused. Some on here say support the troops then say about the man in Malden,how much did he make does not he get good pay for being active duty. This is the same group that continue to tell everyone here how to live and not to have an abortion but do not want their tax dollars spent to care for the children. Either I am real dense or the nut cases are the ones yelling about this.
Working them angels: Maybe you need to look for a different perspective the one you have is very tainted.
If Hillary was a republican, Bush would just pardon her,just like he did for his and Cheney's fall guy Scooter.
I hope you mean by a nonissue that which politicians can do nothing about or are unwilling to do anything about.
You are right that abortion has become a nonissue in a sense that politicians will never do anything about it because it ****** off half constituents. Most people have very definite opinions about this. We should do what much of Europe has done and bring this issue up to vote to the people.
If Hillary was a Republican the ones against her here would be singing her praises.
I for one can assure you that if Hillary were a Republican I Still WOULD NOT like her. She's a liar, she changes her values and her role every day to suit whomever she happens to be talking to at that moment. I have been listening and reading on all prospective candidates whether Dem or Rep and she is just no good, along with a few others, but she has the lead for deception and lieing.
swbg,
No. A non-issue is just that.
Non-issues are those simple, easy to understand, hot button topics that the elected throw around in order to excite the electors. Once the constituents are properly agitated, all the politician has to do is take a couple of polls and side with the majority. Family values and gay rights are two more examples.
The non-issue plan works most efficiently if the politicians can get the morons so worked up that they form groups, formal or otherwise, and vote collectively.
RE: Viable life
Shut up and mind your own business.
RE: We all have a choice
Shut up and mind your own business.
RE: Ready for the worst
Who's going to pay for all of these luxuries? You? You just sit there and keep thinking on that one.
RE: Get out of the way
Maybe they're hearing impaired, or maybe they're elderly and they just don't drive that well anymore.
RE: They can do better
I agree, I bet those people CAN do better. However, if you're "SEVERELY disabled", why are you driving? Not to be a jerk here, but something tells me that you're playing the system.
workin' them -- Who will we blame when Bush leaves office? We'll blame the next president, just like you guys blamed Bill Clinton. And don't act like you didn't do the same thing. That's how it works. Soon you'll be blaming Hillary Clinton, and I'm sure you'll do it with great enthusiasm.
lumpy and jumpinjehova -- You said it right. Way to go.
RE: jumpinjehova
I could not agree more!
Twiggy -- You're obviously eaten alive with jealousy for Hillary Clinton. Otherwise, you wouldn't be so bent out of shape about a woman you know nothing about, other than the "research" you've done on her. I'll bet I could guess what sources you've been getting your information from.
I wish Hillary Clinton was a Republican, because if she was she would be in jail.
-- Posted by Cape4Life on Mon, Oct 29, 2007, at 5:59 AM
For what? Tell us what has she done? And I mean something that you have proof of - not some crap you are rehashing. Or perhaps were you saying innocent Republicans are in jail?
Hope the crybaby neocons here are rich. They have to serve some fine cheese with all the Wine-ing they do here. Again hard to understand people who have no compassion for any other person. ME ME ME watch that penny someone may steal it from you. Jeezzzz.
JJ: Again right on target.
Fedup: Just a guess but, I'll bet you get the same information like everyone else. People here are expressing their opinions. I too believe Hillary is a liar,runs in the family. Bill lied to us not once, not twice but an onslaught of lies.
You must be a lonely ****** individual,and probably divorced. You have a hard time with relationships. You take Viagra but it doesnt help, and your medicine chest is full of all types of "X" medicines, if your not carefull one day you could pull a "postal". You are a heavy smoker and obese. You are angry with everything around you.
See,this is my opinion of you based on your remarks.
Bush sucks and Bush lies. Hillary sucks and Hillary lies. Guilani sucks and Guilani lies. Obama, Romney, Edwards, McCain etc... and so on. Do you not see a pattern here?
Hillary is a Republican, Guiliani is a Democrat. I don't think it has ever been more transparent that the 2 parties of our system are just 2 slightly veiled factions of the same group.
Buckmaster, shut up and get back to work
Mpreszler,
"Thanks Farjar, honestly had not thought to look into the Kosovo issue until you mentioned it. I need to be a bit more worldly in my outlook. Look forward to your ideas."
Sorry it took so long to get back with you. Long in-law filled weekend. EEEKKK!!
Kosovo has been a country under the radar since after the Clinton administration left office. I was surprised to hear about deployments that still go over there to keep the peace.
I am not up to speed about some of the details through the workings of the UN, but knowing and serving with those who have I find it interesting,
"The conflict ended with an agreement[2] signed by both Yugoslavia and NATO at Kumanovo in Macedonia on 9 June 1999 and with United Nations Security Council Resolution 1244 which, whilst recognizing Serbian sovereignty, authorized an international civil and military presence in Kosovo, placing it under interim UN administration with a NATO-led peacekeeping force (KFOR)."
But like S Korea, Germany, Japan, England, Italy, and countless other nations that we've visited...we're still there.
Plus, itâ*¿½*¿½s â*¿½*¿½Fajar!â*¿½*¿½ Meaning â*¿½*¿½explosionâ*¿½*¿½ in Iraqi.
Buck,I BET YOU CAN"T! WANNA BET??? :) :) :)
RE: tamelaj
"Exactly what do YOU call an ISSUE? Haven't seen many on here own up to what issues they are REALLY concerned about? "
I am concerned about health care, gas prices, inflation, lack of rising wage, immigration laws, crime rates, society's children, race issues, education, and probably more that I cannot think of now.
tamelaj, you are correct it is from the 70's band K C and the Sunshine Band I beleive is how it's spelt, good group use to listen to them alot way back then.
RE: hilleco
I mean the children that society (IE: parents, media, the world...) creates. Whether it's the 13 year old boy who lives in some ghetto who becomes a gang member who kills and rapes, or if it's a young child who's parents ignore him and he's diagnosed (by Oprah) with 12 forms of ADD, or maybe the girl who watches the socialites & pop stars and aspires to be as skanky and morally inept just like them.
Tamelaj,
Why is it a good thing that both parties look the same? If both parties are the same, then the people only have the illusion of choice because no third party has a shot in a general election.
Both parties the same = monopoly men controlling our country
Not sure how that is a good thing. It has been proven over and over and over again that governments are not here to help their citizens, but to exploit them and modern day America is the worst in history for that.
twiggy, when I think of a liar, the very first name that comes to my mind is not Hillary but rather George W. Bush.
I guess when you get right down to it they have all told lies at one time or another, it's just some do so more than others. I mean some just keep going and going, you know how you tell a lie, and then another to cover up that one and so on and so on.
prepared for fire:
I'm not so sure I want a concrete roof over my head in an high risk earthquake zone.
Foodie,
"I am concerned about health care, gas prices, inflation, lack of rising wage, immigration laws, crime rates, society's children, race issues, education, and probably more that I cannot think of now."
Unfortunate the answer to some is, to let the government take care of everything and you won't have to worry about anything. If the candidates believe the stuff theyâ*¿½*¿½re shoveling then we truly are in trouble.
Go third party. One that has some of Teddy Rooseveltâ*¿½*¿½s or JFKâ*¿½*¿½s core values that could steer a country back on the world stage with the head held high and little swagger in itâ*¿½*¿½s step. A solid party with a back bone because the other two sure suck.
Hilleco,
Don't forget the belief in the direction towards a New World Order government. The push, for entire continents uniting under the flag of "trade" and "commerce." But it looks more and more like an issue of control to better YOUR life.
If we all work together then we all can have same things. No more need and want. Everything will be provided for you. From eachâ*¿½Â*to each spoken like a true
Now I'm starting to sound like that Alex Jones retard. Crap!
Aggie -- Ooh, ouch, pleeze don't hurt me, Mr. big, bad Gaggie. I never knew of a Clinton lie that caused the amount of death and destruction to our country and the world that Bush's lies have. Or wait, maybe Bush didn't lie after all. Maybe he's just an ignoramus and didn't know any better.
"spoken like a true...socialist."
What is going on with those **** boxes???
Sometimes people get so out of control, it's unreal. It's almost like reading comments from a bunch of kids who like to pick and put down everybody so they can act all tough. Everybody is entitled to their own opinion. Isn't that what this is for??????
Hilleco, you are 100% correct. The classical Republican party (lower taxes, smaller government, less Federal impact) is certainly dead, beaten to death by Bush-style Republicanism (aka NeoCons)
Bush has done nothing but increase the level of Federal involvement in everyday citizens' lives and many now see that as the Republican value system. I should point out that it is NOT just Bush's fault...the way the party is today has it's roots going way back, but easily trackable to Nixon for sure. Remember that Nixon is the one that started our health care system on the road to the way it is now, for one thing.
All the Democrats have been doing recently is trying to paint themselves more like NeoCons publically to get those brainwashed into thinking that the NeoCon outlook is correct into backing them.
I would be greatly behind new parties, and new candidates than our current ones, however it has taken them nearly 100 years to get it working the way they want today and they are not likely to change anytime soon. Indeed WE need to change things, but I think the first point of that is to make sure WE is a big enough section of the population not hindered by lies and media fed brainwashing to actually effect change.
fajar,
has the day finally come that you are seeing the light?
Indeed, Globalization is the fundamental thing that is driving the decisions made by our rulers these days and you are correct: it is for CONTROL. You know you need passports now to take a brief visit in Canada right? Just over the weekend, Homeland Security finally struck a bargain in New York to implemement the REALID driver liscenses.
Present your papers, please!
Also, did you know that in North Carolina now there are holographic emblems for the North American Union on their driver's liscenses now? If you don't believe me, please look it up. 100% true.
ps It's not a bad thing to sound 'like that Alex Jones retard'
He is right about a large number of things.
Ok, I will even save you a step. Here is a link to NC's DMV site with the liscense pictured and a nice little PDF all about it. http://www.ncdot.org/dmv/hot_topics/Holo...
just be like me and misspell to your heart's content!
Tamela,
It is Mozilla firefox. It will do a spelling check as you type (the miss spelled words are underlined in red) It still doesn't like copy and paste, you get some weird symbols and question marks.
jumpinjehova
NY is now I believe the 7th (or maybe 17th) state to give drivers licenses to illegals.
Why shouldn't they have them? How else are they gonna be able to vote?
Illegals do not have the right to vote, they don't have the right for anything unless they decide to do it legally.
Indeed, that was the sticking point on NY's resistance to the RealID, the ability to give them to illegals. If they are trying to make everyone carry a National ID to 'secure us from illegal terrorist aliens' then why are they giving them out to them? Oh yes, because it is not at all a control on immigration or security, but another way to track and itemize the American public.
Sorry, forgot where I was for a minute....
I already have Firefox installed so I suppose I could be correcting my mistakes automatically, but then where'd be the fun in that?
Twiggy, et al
The REAL problem here is that the plan that is underway would mean an end to illegals, because we would all be North American Union citizens. Who knows if we would even have ANYONE voting after that.
Twiggie -- You said yourself that "everybody is entitled to their own opinion." That includes people who disagree with you. Seems like you can dish it out, but you can't take it. And that's my opinion.
Not only are Driver licenses passed out to Mexicans, what about the gov. giving them a "head start" to social security. In other words, we have to earn an amount of "points" to qualify. The illegals only have to earn half the amount to do so. This was a bi-partisn vote.
Hilleco: You are correct the Republican party before 1968 does not exist. The ones supporting the Republican party of today are Corpocrats. They prefer the Central government be handled by the corporations.
JJ: You too are correct in NC has taken the first step to the ole "Papers Please". No illegals because there will be no borders. If no one here cares to listen then guess we are in for the ride of our lives what is left of it. I just hate to see my grandkids live in what we Americans have caused.
Fedup: As I have said to Aggiefan before his name says it all. Texas=arrogrance, strutting, cockiness, bragging, and a need to start a war. Usually try to pick on someone weaker than you so you can what is it Bush says, oh yes, muy macho. If Texas is so good wonder why the Texans don't move back?
Twiggy: I remember how long she lasted in the 60's, hope you make it longer here, but with your demanding style probably not. We do miss a lot of the neo-cons who used to post here. They seem to flame out when Bush does something else real stupid.
Anyone want to guess who gave Blackwater immunity from prosecution on the shootings in Iraq. The FBI can't use anything they said because of the immunity deal before they were ever questions. Bet they were laughing their a$$es off while being questioned. Should have used the same techniques used against the Iraqis. Bet they would have told us some very good intel.
I can't wait to see the spin on this. Oh never mind Hillary caused it.
Saw a good t-shirt..
Dot mess with Texas
It's not nice to pick on retards
Tamelaj: You are gonna find there are some on here who like to make stuff up. Then they whine if you ask them for documentation.
RE: Viable life
See Foodie's response below.
RE: We all have a choice
Worst Speak Out ever.
RE: Ready for the worst and Planning for fires
If any local municipality adopts stricter building codes--which I seriously doubt anyway--the public uproar would be so large that it'd never pass anyway. Additionally, you need big $$$ to retrofit public infrastructure and Southeast Missouri just doesn't have the tax base.
RE: They can do better
Oh man, not another one of these.
Mmmm might have to change my view on abortion. Just read on another newspaper's opinion page that abortions increase a woman's chance of breast cancer by 50%? I can't imagine that the pro-lifers hadn't brought this up sooner. Guess it's God vengance on free will. LMAO!!!!!!!!
Tamelaj: Glad to see you still have the sense of humour.
Mpreszler: Well you do know he caused 9/11, Katrina, aids, and his disciples are the neo-cons. LMAO What is the paradox between the old testament and the new testament. My comment on God and the Bible is the same as Clarence Darrow, â*¿½*¿½I would be pretty near the last one in the world to do anything to take it away. If anybody finds anything in this life that brings them consolation and health and happiness I think they ought to have it.â*¿½*¿½
Tamelaj,
So far no bad news on the CA front. (keeping figures crossed though that does tend to slow my typing. hahaha)
Breast Cancer-- just thought is was a funny comment. Would have thought they would have come out with that one a long time ago if it had been known for as long as the poster had claimed.
Fedup, yes everyone is entitled to their own opinions and yes I can take what ever is said. I still don't think illegals have the right to get a drivers license, or to our Food Stamps, Medicaid, and schooling such as grants and things because they should be given to those who are legal citizens. I think we should take care of the people who have lived here all their lives. Their are Seniors and young people alike that need things that are being given to illegals that should be available to US Citizens. It makes me angry and upset that this goes on, and no not everyone who is a citizen deserves free help, their are alot of people who could work and make something of themselves, but don't even try to so it hurts alot of people everywhere. There are so many hospitals out in CA that have shut down just because of Illegals and there is one hospital in Tx that pretty much caters to illegals, they get free medical help, but let a citizen that is legal go in and they demand payment real quick. Tell me how this is fair?
Twiggie -- You don't like illegal aliens? Fine. I couldn't care less. What I do care about is your throwing names at Hillary Clinton, someone you have limited knowledge about.(Like a kid on a playground -- your words.) George Bush, on the other hand, has a proven record of behavior. What names would you call him? And this time don't dodge the question.
Fedup, I guess your a Hillary fan, fine so be it. I get my info various ways, and I also read things she has QUOTED. As for Bush I never said he hasn't lied, so what's your problem??? I can say this much about Bush, I don't read that he changes his stories every day like Hillary does. He's not perfect, no one is, maybe you need to read some of your favorite persons quotes.
Twiggy60: Try these websites, maybe give you a better insight as to how things work. Both sides is usually a better understanding.
http://www.50bushflipflops.com/Introduct...
http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/2...
workin' them angels
They used all of their material in their first few post. They are the same old Bush lied people died ect. ect.
Folks the SS fund went away when most of you were riding tricycles. At that time it had the funds to pay the national debt. Oh... I forgot..... it was during a Democrat majority. Bush tried to show everyone that no money existed and only IOU's in filing cabinets a few years ago but the media ignored it. Now Hillary is saying we have to keep the lock box closed. How gullible can people be.
Please tell me when Bush has lied. he recieved the same intelligence report on Iraq that the senate did when they ALL voted together to go into Iraq.
Yes, we have lost alot of good men/women in the war. Their loss is sad and patriotic.
I am only upset that we didn't finish the job the first time.
The Iraqi's can have a future without fear if we can just succeed. To pull out now would defeat all sense. Iraq needs and deserves a chance at diplomacy,to be free of a tyrannt and his sons.
Now, as for me being from Texas, I'm not a bully nor am I arrogant. I am proud! Proud of my roots and will not be pushed around. I can't stand ignorance. I'm not prejudice towards anyone.
I am prejudice towards thse who think Bush flew the panes into the World Trade Center, or that he went out and roped Katrina and sent her to New Orleans. That is ignorance. New Oreleans demise was the faultof State and local officials. Instead of being a Mayor, Mr. Nagen was one of the first people running. He was a coward.
So don't **** down my back and tell me it's raining, I'm not real impressed with the intelligent level with you either Cannedheat, Fedup or you either Central. Nick Charles, a good *** kicking is what you need. You want cookies, go buy them di*k head.
Aggiefan,
"Mission Accomplished" comes to mind.
And if the "Mission" was to remove Sadam, we did that, so victory right? Can they come home now??
Do you really think turning over military power to the Iraqi's is smart? That would be like asking Cannedheat, Central Scrooge, Fedup and nick chuckie to stand up and defend our country. They would puss out and run like "girlie men".
Aggiefan,
Wow, how arrogant is that to say that the Iraqi people can't tend to their own military? Sadam was a bad guy, but so are so many other leaders of other nations. I don't see us taking out North Korea. Oh wait, we won't touch North Korea because they match us militarily?? Your reasoning, though very thought prevoking, is slightly flawed. If we were supposed to bring Democracy to a Country that has never had Democracy, then we need to let them govern their own country with the official they elected. How long does it take to train a military? Our solders go through what 90 day of basic training and they are a solder.
Just playing devils advocate.
If I were a few years younger, I would enlist to go to Iraq. I believe in what we are doing. I'm sorry if that upsets people, hell my wife thanks God I am too old.
I don't put too much stock into the delussional beliefs of some connecting Bush with oil or profit. That is so insane. Again, I'm not happy with alot of his decisions.
Btw, by the term "girlie men" you mean gay men?? How offensive on so many levels.
Do you remember how easily the Iraqi's surrenderd in the first war? How outmatched? Hungry, thirsty and scarred sh*tless they were. And you want them to protect their country?
Valid point. You don't put much stock in the idea of Bush getting rich because of the War. And you have every right to believe that. Just as the others have the right to believe what they believe. Isn't that what you are willing to fight for? The rights we have has Americans?
No, not "gay", maybe I should'nt have said that. i knew someone would blow that one out. You know what I mean!!!
But Aggiefan,
That would not be the same army now. Didn't we disban that army and are training a new one? My question was, how long does it take to train them? One year, 5 years, 10 years? Indefinately?
Look, i enjoy speaking my beliefs just like the next person. But sometimes it really goes beyond all senses that some post here. My favorite saing is that "We can all agree to disagree".
Aggiefan,
Wasn't trying to upset, just get clarity on your statement of 'girlie men'. Know lot of gay men in the Milatary and the last thing they are is girlie.
Again, just discussing the topic with you not meaning to upset.
Hell of a good game tonight.
Will agree with the fact that you catch alot of flack on here. And I don't always agree with what you have to say, (could you tell?? lol).
All in good fun Aggiefan. I'm off for the night. Talk to you guys/gals tomorrow.
Aggiefan: I will put my military history against yours any day. You want war join there is a 59 yr old man serving in Iraq with his son. Go big boy and yes you are arrogrant, and you do try to push people around and yes when you let your wife tell you you are to old to go that shows us a lot about you. Grow up and take the idiot back to texas {small t} with you. You deserve him and he deserves people like you.