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Speak Out 10/25/07Thursday, October 25, 2007Brains out of gear IF OUR people in Congress don't have anything better to do than worry about something that happened back in World War I to the Armenians, they need to take a vacation, because their brains are out of gear. Fantastic supper I WANT to let Zion Lutheran Church at Gordonville know that it had a wonderful sausage supper. The food was delicious. It was well-organized. Hats off to all the workers. No pleasure I AM an 80-plus-year-old woman who can barely walk. The only place I can go is the doctor and a store that has riding carts when some family member can spare a little time to take me. I try to cook and clean as much as my body allows and do laundry. I have no pleasure whatsoever. I stay here inside day after day because I can't walk outside. Preparing a meal wears me out. Back in the 1920s and 1930s, neighbors cared about neighbors. Now they don't know each other. They're too darn busy. So I sit here day after day after day looking at the walls and doing whatever my body will allow. Parade rules Are there two sets of rules for parades regarding throwing candy from a moving vehicle? We received a letter about the Christmas parade. There was to be no throwing of candy from a moving vehicle per a city ordinance and that anyone caught doing so would be removed from the parade. During the recent Southeast Missouri State University Homecoming parade, almost everyone was throwing candy from a moving vehicle, including the university president. Is this ordinance enforced? Corner signs WE LIVE on the corner of our street. Every week we have garage sale or open house signs in our lawn. Sometimes they dig big holes to put them in. No one ever asks if that's OK. We have to mow around them. I wonder if this bothers other people who live on the corner of their neighborhood. Bring back the roses I HAVE lived in Cape Girardeau all my life. Cape was always called the City of Roses. Where are the roses? I know there are roses in the rose garden in Capaha Park. When I was younger, on Sunday afternoon, we would take a drive on Kingshighway. There used to be the most beautiful hill of roses. There is a place on Kingshighway where roses could be planted. I've always been proud of the City of Roses. The roses were the most beautiful thing we used to have over the years. Running our churches I WOULD like to report a church on Route K that is serving meals Wednesday nights in direct competition with retail businesses in Cape Girardeau. This church should be shut down, or it should be charged taxes on what it charge members for these meals. I know of another church that runs a basketball program in direct competition with our parks and recreation department. This church charges children for the basketball program, so I think this church should be shut down. I know of another church that operates a clothing pantry and charges a nominal fee for the clothes. This is just awful. How can all these churches be doing good deeds for the community and expect not to be charged taxes for this? Let's open the doors of our churches so the government can step right in and tell us how to run the churches. This is getting out of hand. I can't believe, here in the Bible Belt. that we are not letting our city officials tell us exactly what and how to do on a selective basis. Our voters need to wake up. Thanks for help I'D LIKE to thank everybody at Jasper's in Jackson who helped me with my car when it died and wouldn't start. Everybody said it was the starter. It was a dead battery. Thanks for helping me out. Waste of money I LIVE in Scott County. A couple of years ago the county put some of this chip and seal down it front of my house. Last year it wasn't bad, but this year it has gone to pieces. It's real rough. I think the county is wasting money on chip and seal. Using free will THIS IS concerning the column by Jonah Goldberg, "Why be pro-life?" People don't get it. It's not pro-life or pro-abortion. It's a matter of choice. God gave us free will. Why should the government take that away from us? I don't believe in abortion, but I can't take someone else's beliefs and say they're right or wrong. Not realistic WHILE MILDLY entertaining, the "He Said/She Said" column by Bob Miller and Callie Clark Miller hardly portrays realistic couples. I think it's time to move on to more important issues that affect our lives. Bring back the GOP I WANT to say a word about these polls that are coming out. They claim that President Bush is at 33 percent. But the latest poll out on the Democrats is at 11 percent. I think they've failed. They've taken over the House and Senate and have done nothing but feather their own nest. That's the reason they're at 11 percent. I can't wait until the Republicans get back in. Watch the children I'VE BEEN around Snake Hill and have seen how some people drive there. They don't drive fast. The person who complained about the speeding should watch the children instead of letting them play in the streets. We've got crazy people who might pick them up. Parents should have more sense than letting their children play in the street. Follow the money I WOULD like to make a comment about Al Gore's movie. I think it's a sad day when scientists won't come out against this movie because they fear losing their grants. Available parking I THINK more businesses should take more accountability in keeping their handicap-parking slot open for their disabled customers who have a disability tag and display it. They act like they have no concern if someone parks there but has no right to do so. If you see someone parked in a disabled-parking slot without a hanging tag or handicapped license plate, you can call the police. They have assured me they will come out immediately and issue a ticket. 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Running Our Churches: Tell you what. I'll make a deal with you. I will keep government out of your church if you keep your church out of my government. The take over of our political structure by the "church" has been telling me how I should live my life for years. So when the President of the US doesn't have to be a "christian" to get elected then we'll talk about the seperation of Church and the State. Is it a deal?? Probably not.
Bring back the GOP:
The Democrats might have a slight majority in Congress, but it isn't enough to get anything over turned when the President uses his VETO. People just don't get how it works. Just because you are calling it a Democratic "controlled" congress there are enough stubborn GOP members not willing to go against President Bush reguardless of the benifit to the American peoples as a whole. Think you might grasp it now???? Again, probably not.
Bring back the GOP? I hope not in my lifetime!
iago
I'm with you. If we had a crystal ball that could tell us for sure that the GOP wouldn't be back in our lifetime, I could quit my job and collect cradle to grave welfare.
mpreszler
I for one get it. The republicans in office were put there by their constituents who voted them into office. They voted these republicans into office because they held the beliefs and values that they the voters have. Therefore the republicans in office should ignore their constituents and just blindly follow everything that the democrats want. It would be wrong for people to have different views and beliefs. Everyone in congress should agree on everything as long as it fits with the democrat view. Republican voters should have no representation in congress. The republicans should just sit there in congress and keep their mouths shut.
Corner Signs
Solution: Pull up yard signs and throw them in the trash.
No Pleasure: I know all of my neighbors and I got to know them by visiting each of their homes and introducing myself. If you are able I would suggest sitting outside on a nice day, which we have had very few of the past few days, and inviting your neighbors over to talk.
hilleco
Can't disagree with you.
The Democrats were in large elected into office to stop the war and to try and make the administration answer for it's mishandling of the war, it's erosion of civil liberties, it's outright declaration that it is above the law.
Why is Congress at 11% then? Because they have done none of the above. It's the same reason the front runners for both parties all condone the continuation of the Iraq war and expansion into Iran. The reason is they all play for the same team. As much as you'd like to think it is, your elected officials are NOT there to do your bidding, to make your voices be heard. They are there to further the agenda of Globalists and the mega-corporations. Your elected officials do not care about you or your well being, nor your family or even the children. They only care that you obey them and pay your fealty and taxes.
Originally, our Republic was set up with the idea that a government should answer to and be afraid of the people. We are currently 180 degress from that. It's not supposed to be this way people.
Folks
Keep in mind that the politicians do what they do because "we the people" continue to re-elect them to office (i.e. 90% + incumbency rate every election). By continually re-electing these politicians, we send them the message that we like what they are doing. Bottom line: the citizens are reaping what they have sown.
Tamelaj,
You are correct. The only way for the peoples voice to be heard is if enough stand up and do something about it. Of course, this only gets you so far. It's one thing to make a city reconsider the granting of a street and quite another to get a war humgry government from nuking another country. One problem is people cannot even get close enough to be heard when it matters and to whom it matters. You know there are rules keeping any protesters something like 1500 yards (forget the actual distance, but it's large) away from the President during public appearances, ensuring he can continue to live in his fantasy world where his actions have no consequences or opponents.
Parade rules: The organizers have to think of safety first. They should ban all candy thrown from floats. Float can have people walking along side.
tamelaj
It is not just one church (Christ Church of the Heatland) using Angel Food there are several churches that are involved with this ministry and they all work together on this. The food drop off point is at Christ Church. There are churches all over the country that are zoned residental that do not have to get a special permit. Again this really has nothing to do with Angel food. The real issue is The new church building.
As for the church on Route K. One dinner does not cut it. Feed people for a week every month and then you have something to talk about. By the way Christ Church also runs 5 other ministry that give food away. They work with the Catholic church in town giving furnature away. It is one of only a few churches that are doing what they are supposed to do. I don't even go there and I know that. Christ Church is doing the right thing and 3 to 4 neighbors just don't like it. What are they doing to do when the new building is built and there are 1500 people show up for church?
Watch out for deer!!!!!
Bring back the roses-The roses have been exterminated and the city paid good money for an excellent slogan that says something about chasing tail. Heck, I never can remember it but I'm sure it was worth all the money.
As evidenced by JoAnn Emerson, who is just an example because a wide majority of them are exactly the same, your Congress Persons often vote in direct conflict with the majority of their districts' wishes. Indeed, you must tell them how you feel and more importantly, not be afraid to 'fire' them via the elections process. The pessimisim in me makes me think that any replacements would still do the same thing, but the bottom line is you must try to do something if you do not like the system. Stop being afraid of your government and start to enlighten yourself and then fight for your rights. Expecting your elected officials to just do that for you is extreme folly.
tamelaj
Agree that we should all be contacting our reps in congress. The problem is they never see or read our letters or e-mails. They have some flunky in their office to do that and then send out a form letter response.
The ones that our reps DO listen to, are the special interest groups (All of which are not bad).
For instance: If you are a senior citizen, join the AARP (Special interest group). The AARP lobbyists will then take your views to congress where they will be heard.
Gun rights advocates: Join the NRA. The NRA lobbyists will then take your views to congress where they will be heard.
Environmentally concious: Join an environmental group. Their lobbyists will then take your views to congress where they will be heard. Etc, etc, etc.
Not the most perfect system, but the only current system that will allow for your views to be heard and paid attention to.
"We the people continue to vote them into office"!Several of you have missed a very important point and it has to do with voting.
It seems many more people in this Country would rather vote for an American Idle then to get off their butts and go to the poles and vote for anyone or anything!Many citizens never even bother to register.I believe it is the duty of all over 18year
old citizens to exercise their right to vote!
Too many have grown "tired" just like Hilleco
when it came to shutting down his web site and writing letters.We indeed have become slaves to the media and OUR GOVERNMENT.Who is at fault?I am not at all sure.I refuse to discuss anything Political with anyone who does not vote.Its time we Americans do more then spout off in medias like this and let our voices be heard through voting and letters and even peacefull protesting.This may or may not be too late but as for me I will continue to vote and try to convince others to do the same.
Librule, Never ever said they should keep their mouth shut. Just said that they aren't helping. Of course not sure the Dems are either. Was just tired of hearing how the "Dem Controlled Congress" (which basically is a myth) wasn't getting anything done. The past Congress was a supposed Conservative Congress with a Conservative President and they did nothing to curb your so called "cradle to grave welfare."
Oh and btw, I think I might bring those horses and rope now!! J/k
I agree with you 100% Hilleco. It is much more of a problem with complacent and willfully ignorant people than it is with representatives themselves. Of course the government will take all the actions it can (to it's own good) if the majority of people don't pay attention or don't care or are afraid to speak up since they have been trained to not question authority. I think some of the corrupted politicians would actually come clean and straighten up if the people demanded it, and of course the actual evil ones would then stand out even ore plainly. Problem is people are only demanding cheaper products, Nascar races and McRib sandwiches.
Greywolf,
Totally agree with you. Know plenty of people that b*tch about the current state of afairs in Washington DC. But ask them if they voted and they tell you no. (No one in here I'm sure.) It is kind of hard to change things if you don't vote. And I know that my vote may not be with the majority on any given subject, but on a personal note, I feel better when I vote. At least I can say I tried.
I am very suprised Hilleco.Of those here, I would not have thought any did not vote.I was wrong.I know I said I would not discuss
politics with someone who does not vote but that may be a bit difficult in your case.I have read much of what you have written here and in your editorials in years past.All have been more or less in line with my thoughts.Yes,most here know I am a Libertarian and I vote that way when there is a candidate running.Otherwise I look at the person and not the Party.I only hope you
find a way to come back to the voting booth.
Until then I will continue to read your post and perhaps even respond I just hope you change your mind and exercise your right and go to the polls.
cough Ron Paul cough cough
mpreszler
Agree with you on the Republican controlled congress getting nothing done, especially when they had the golden opportunity to change our current "handout" social welfare system to a "handup" social welfare system. Have to agree with hilleco that both parties have nearly morphed into the same, which is why I took a page out of Greywolf's book and voted libertarian in the last elections.
By the way, difference between handout and handup? Jesus told the hungry man,"I can give you this fish so that you can eat for a day"(Handout), or "I can teach you to fish so that you can eat for a lifetime."(Handup)
Does anyone see anything wrong with welfare recipients being required to do their part in bettering their lives in order to continue recieving benefits as opposed to the current system of recieving benefits with no strings attached?
All need to be voted out. Maybe elect no one to office for a couple of years and see what happens. Could not be any worse than with the ones we have now. Did anyone catch the article in Southeast Missourian about the guy from Malden. Great Administration we have here, hope all the ones for war enjoyed it.
tamelaj
Please don't take the low rode and accuse the 100+ churches in our area for not "walking the walk" or use them as the reason that you choose not to attend services. It's doubtful that you've attended each of these churches so you really have no idea whether they walk the walk or not (although I'm sure that there are some whose "walk" is not very evident). Actually, it's the people in the church that have the responsibility of walking the walk, and I think it's more accurate to say that most Christian based churches have at least a few people who have a desire to live like Christ. The more Christ-like people in the church, the more Christ-like deeds done by the church. Different churches have different missions based on the interests of the people that attend. Possibly you haven't found one that "fits" you, but I can guarantee you that there are churches in our area trying to walk the walk.
RE: No pleasure
What the **** is this ****?
RE: Corner signs
Then remove the signs and throw them away.
RE: Watch the children
********. People tailgate me hard when I drive the 25 mph speed limit up or down Snake Hill.
RE: No pleasure
It's apparent that you have family members; you said so, why not call them and ASK? I have a Grandparent that does this to me ALL of the time. Every time that I see her she whines and complains that her life is so unfulfilled and that no one ever calls her or comes to see her, which is a bald face LIE. So I tell her to call me when she's feeling lonely and she tells me that she "doesn't want to be a bother..." Take some responsibility for your own circumstances and CALL SOMEONE.
I also have another Grandparent who does call me when she's lonely and I LOVE chatting with her I couldn't ask for a better conversation partner.
You'd be surprised with how your family can really help you if you ask.
RE: Corner signs
Why mow around them? Take them out of your yard and throw them away if it's that big of a deal. When you see someone putting a sign in your ground, ask them not to. If it's YOUR property then take action against something you have control over.
RE: Using free will
Why can't there be more people like you? You may not like it but you still see that it's a choice.
RE: Not realistic
Not everyone is always entertained by serious subjects ALL of the time. Lighten up.
Librule,
Agree that getting something for nothing is a problem. I know some really need assistance, but you are right. There should be something along the lines of the Habitat for Humanity. My understanding is they have to put in a majority of time in building the home. It isn't just 'given' to them. I could be wrong, so feel free to correct me.
Slayer,
Jesus did not come to start a Church.You can tear down every Church in this Country and look in all of the debris and you will not find God.He dwells within us and you do not need to attend services to be a Christian.I believe however,you should fellowship with other Christians.I am a Christian but I have no use for organized religion because it divides people.Show me a Church in this area that is without turmoil and division and I will attend.In the mean time I will spend my Sunday Nights where we meet with other Christians
and fellowship with food and song and discussion with the belief in a risen Savior
I call Jesus.If anyone is interested in attending where there is no Elders,Deacons or any other form of leadership or organization
just let me know and I will be happy to let you know where this place is so that you can join us.
Off subject, but since his name comes up alot on here... Ron Paul..
He would like to give a $5000 tax credit per child for education and many think it is good. Why is that good for education, but Clinton's perposal for $5000 tax credit for healthcare is bad?
Overturn Roe v. Wade on National level, but have the states decide. So Mo. abortion wrong, Il. abortion ok. Women from Mo go to Il. and have one performed?? Or would she still be prosecuted for having one in another state?
Adoption... Only married hetersexuals can possibly be good parents? No married hetersexual parents abuse or neglect their children? Single and/or Same sex parents are incapable of providing loveing, nutruring, balanced, and safe home to adopted children??
Just interested in clarification if possible. Like I have stated before, haven't chosen whom I shall vote for, but did a little research and not sure Ron Paul is the saviour he is made out to be. My mind can be changed though.
mpreszler
You're right on track.
Nearly every gov't agency (local, state, and federal) is understaffed due to lack of enough money in the budget. For example: Mo. Division of Social Services hasn't near enough social workers to effectively get the job done. If it is 100 more social workers that they need, how about training 100 welfare recipients as social workers. The money they were collecting in welfare benefits is then used to pay their salary. Former welfare recipient then not only learns a job skill, but recieves the pride in earning a living and taking care of himself/herself. This pride is them passed on to their children ending the cycle of dependency. Polyanish? Maybe. But the current system sure isn't working.
>Corner signs:
There is always a phone number and/or an address on those pesky yard signs. Give the perpetrator a friendly call/visit and threaten them with severe bodily harm if they continue to litter on your property. It's good clean fun and a swell way to meet new and interesting people.
>Parade rules:
Throwing candy from a float during a Chrismas parade is NOT what the spectators want. They want snow! And since it hardly ever snows 'round here, I suggest throwing water into the crowd. After all, water is just thawed out snow.
>Using free will:
Good point. Just another round about way of saying, "if you are against abortions, don't have one".
>librule,
Jesus said that whole give a man a fish, teach a man to fish speil? That's really in the Good Book? Not arguing; I'm no Biblical scholar by any stretch of the imagination. I always thought it was Confusious who said that. It sounds like his work. My favorite Confusiousism is "Happy is the man who meets pretty woman in park, but happier is the man who parks meat....Well, you get the idea
Regards!
Librule,
Agreed. Definately would give them an idea of how things work. I also think that maybe if the assistance wasn't more then they could get working, more would have the insentive to actually find work. Did that make sense??
Well, off to work. Will check back in later. Think Tamelaj is correct, am getting addicted to posting. lol
lumpy
You could be correct. I always thought it was Jesus.
tamelaj
Yes, it has moved in the handup direction a little bit. But not nearly enough or fast enough. And although there is some kind of 5yr limit on some programs, you can't believe that if after 5yrs and someone is not yet on their feet, that they are just out on the street with nothing to eat. Somehow the taxpayer is still supporting them.
As far as OFFERING education and job training, I say we should MANDATE it as condition of recieving taxpayer supported subsidies.
Tamelaj,
To a certain extent you are correct in that there are now supposed limits on receiving certain assistances. Though the loop hole that I have personally seen is with the finding of work.
exp.. You are told that you are coming to the end of your time on assistance and must find a job. The person gets hired on a job, but quits or get fired within a week. They then can go back on the list for another term of time before they have to find a job again. Kind of a vicious circle if you want to work the system without actually ever getting off it.
Again, I know some do need it and I am not advocateing letting children starve or go hungry. But having 5 children when you can't support yourselve just to get more money and not work isn't the answer either.
And I can go for assistance for parents that do work, but need help occassionally. Hense my support for Angel Food Ministries and other projects that help but don't give away. Again, trying to rush around so not sure that made sense..
RE: tamelaj
I have a heart, I'm actually a very compassionate person. However MY point was that there are people (IE: neighbors, family, etc) who DON'T know to help the people if they DON'T ASK.
This person wants to write/call in to Speak Out and complain about how everyone in her life ignores her.
The real question is this: do they KNOW that they're ignoring her? Maybe her family IS very busy...but maybe if she said something to them they'd bust their own butts to make sure that they made time for this family member.
I have a heart and I am compassionate...however people need to realize how much control that they have over their own lives. You cannot sit around blaming other people if you don't take action for yourself.
Tamela,
Yesterday you posted that you would like to see a "progressive tax". Isn't that the system that we already have?
I could be wrong but under a "Progressive Tax" you would tax people who make more money more taxes than you would someone who makes little, that is the system we have now and it is not fair. A progressive tax is nothing but Income Redistribution. It punishes productivity by taxation and rewards underachievement through redustribution.
I support the "Fair Tax" It replaces all income taxes, and embedded taxes with a flat sales tax on all products. That way everyone pays the same, and it inculeds the people that do not pay taxes now like drug dealers, prostitutes, tourists, and wealthy people that have no incomes.
RE: tamelaj
When I think of a "shut-in", I don't ever think of someone that complains that people don't prevent them from being a shut-in.
This person was asking for her neighbors to be more neighborly. However, if her neighbors didn't KNOW that this person wanted more attention...then the 80 year old woman has nothing to complain about.
I too am sick of the self-centered nature of our society...but that doesn't mean that an 80 year old woman isn't selfish just because she's elderly.
Speaking of taxes:At a bipartisan Ways and Means caucus last night, Chairman Rangel outlined his long-awaited 'Mother of All Tax Hikes' legislation. The basics of the package are simple: This is the largest individual income tax increase in history.
The bill will add a 4% surtax on Americans earning more than $150,000 a year ($200,000 for couples). That is on top of the scheduled expiration of the 2001 and 2003 tax cuts. So, under Democrats' plan, over the next few years, the individual income top tax rate in the United States will rise from 35% to 44%. By way of comparison, the other 29 Organization for Economic Co-operation and Development countries ' basically other developed nations - have an average top marginal tax rate of 35.7%. In fact, only five OECD countries would have higher top marginal tax rates in 2011 than the United States if the Democrats' bill is enacted.
This crushingly high tax rate will affect approximately 10 million taxpayers directly - including those who report business income, like small business owners and farmers - but the damage will ripple throughout our economy. Because small businesses and family farms often pay their income taxes as individuals, this is a massive tax hike on the engine that drives job growth in this country.
In addition, the surtax is on adjusted gross income, not taxable income. This sounds like a technical issue, but it means that Rangel's bill will erode the value of a series of tax deductions ' including for mortgage interest, charitable giving, medical expenses, state and local taxes, and the standard deduction. And, because the surtax kicks in at $150,000 for individuals and $200,000 for couples, the bill creates a monster of a marriage penalty.
Chairman Rangel will claim that these tax increases go to provide tax cuts to 90 million Americans, but he is selling pure snake-oil. Many if not most of those taxpayers are getting a purely imaginary 'tax cut.' Some of them are the roughly 20 million people that Republicans shielded with the Alternative Minimum Tax patch. Millions more are people who have benefited from the 2001 and 2003 tax cuts, and only get 'tax cuts' if you assume that the 10% bracket, marriage penalty, and $1,000 per child tax credit will expire. Others, like single people who will now be eligible for the Earned Income Tax Credit, are getting a tax refund from the government even though they don't actually pay income taxes.
It will take time to analyze this bill and sort through the data, but we know from the start that the 90 million figure is pure hokum. In fact, before you know it more taxpayers may wind up paying higher taxes ' and fewer paying less - under Rangel's plan than they did last year.
Which brings us to the larger fallacy of the Democrats' 'paygo' system. There is no need to 'pay for' protecting taxpayers from a massive AMT tax hike. The government never meant for the AMT to affect middle-class Americans, and we have a responsibility to make sure it doesn't. By arguing that preventing this tax increase requires us to raise taxes elsewhere, Democrats are trying to lock Congress into a system where we are guaranteed to raise taxes by $3.5 trillion over ten years.
That's right. $3.5 trillion. The baseline that the Democrats are using for 'paygo' includes revenue from an 'un-patched' AMT and from the tax increases that occur when the 2001 and 2003 tax laws expire after 2010. Together they total $3.5 trillion over ten years. If we play by the Democrats 'paygo' rules, that is the size of the tax increase we are imposing on the American people. That will hurt our nation's competitiveness and cost us American jobs. The Rangel bill is the first step down a road none of us want to follow, and I urge you to oppose it strongly.
tamelaj
I myself have found a way to help others and have a great time doing it. A couple of years ago I bought a Harley and joined the local H.O.G. Chapter as well as the War Child riding group. The HOG pet charity is the MDA and War Child has two: Veteran's and Children's causes.(Mainly St. Judes), hence the name War Child.
Between the 2 clubs, we probably average 2 rides per month (mostly poker runs) as well as other types of events to raise money for these various charities.
So if you're looking to do something more, buy a Harley, throw on your leathers, let the wind fly through your hair, and LIVE TO RIDE, RIDE TO LIVE. All for a good cause!
HARLEY CHICK TAMELAJ!!!
tamelaj
I will certainly bring it up at the next chapter meeting. Can't promise anything though.
Oh, and by the way tamelaj, yes, I could picture you on a Harley.
I have a question that I can't find an answer for. If not by raising taxes how are we to ever pay for the wars in Iraq and elsewhere? Without raising taxes how are we supposed to pay for Ron Paul's $5000 tax credit to children for education? If we as a nation keep spending money we don't have, won't taxes eventually need to be raise to pay for it?
tamelaj
Your comment logged at 8:42 am said "most likely the same reason I choose not to attend services....."They don't walk the walk". Since you had previously referred to "local churches", it sounded to me like you were saying the local churches don't walk the walk and you were using this as your reason for not attending services. If I misunderstood your comment, I'm sorry. I don't contest your right to make your own choices - I'm just thankful that we both still have that right. I do know, however that there are churches in our area whose congregational members are trying to walk the walk - that was my point. And whether any of these churches step up to help with Angel Food Ministries makes no difference. AFM is a good ministry but so are food pantries, clothing distribution sites, boy and girl mentoring programs, homeless shelters, Mid-America Teen Challenge, etc.etc. It's up to the individuals in the church to decide how they can best use their time, money, and abilities, and I think any ministry that touches the lives of people represents walking the walk.
Greywolf, I know Christ didn't build a building called a church, but his followers have become known as the church. I, too, spend my Sunday nights with other Christians, fellowshipping, singing and sometimes eating - it just happens to be in a building that we also call "our church". It makes no difference to me if people meet with an organized body of believers or not - in some parts of the world that would even get one killed. If we share the belief in Jesus Christ as the only Son of God and as our risen Savior and Lord, I would say we belong to the same church. Glad to know ya.
You are correct:
Ron Paul is indeed in favor of education vouchers. I personally disagree with that, but that is greatly overshadowed by his other views for me. The Roe v Wade thing is to me a totally moot point, but his stance to allow states to decide for themselves is much more in line with the original plan,so be it. Same idea for gay marrige.
On things like that, he mostly comes down on the side that the government doesn't need to be involved, which I heartily agree with.
Librule you stated the following...
"Others, like single people who will now be eligible for the Earned Income Tax Credit, are getting a tax refund from the government even though they don't actually pay income taxes."
I think I misunderstood. Are you saying that me being single I don't pay income taxes?? Then I want the thousands of dollars they have already taken out of my check based on my income this year and years past. lol
Jumpinjehova,
Thank you for your thoughts, but not sure it answered my questions. But it is a start.
Ok, he is advocateing Government nonintervention on states rights by allowing them to decide for themselves. But isn't State government still government?? So in best case scenario, each state becomes it's own country? I know very simplistic view, but I'm just trying to understand.
We do not need to raise taxes to be able to fund social plans at all. Dr. Paul's idea here is to abolish the IRS totally (therefore negating the expense of running the agency) and implement the Fair Tax (consumption tax). He also plans to scale back and lose as many other wasteful departments. The onus would then be on individual states to decide their taxes and services, much as it was originally planned for in our original Republic.
Withdrawing from Nafta and the WTO would help spur industrial growth and get back some of those jobs we sent off to third world countries.
The plan is that if we spent wiser, we could get alot more done without raising taxes. What he proposes is nothing short of a total re-evaluation of nearly everything we are doing. That is scary to many people, but then again, the system we are running now is plenty scary too. Killing the Fed, basing our money on something other than greed and debt and getting us out of being a total debtor nation is a huge step in the right direction.
Yes, state government is still government. I ask you this though, which is easier to affect change on, the state governments or the federal? It brings the power center down an entire level, and anything that puts the power closer to the people to actually decide things is a-ok in my book.
mpreszler
The obvious of course is to control spending. Fat chance in our current political climate. As far as Iraq, we certainly should have never gone in in the first place, but the sad fact is that we did. Now how to deal with it. Wish I had the answers. My personal opinion is that we can't just cut and run. Would cause more problems than we have now. Even the Democratic Presidential candidates have stated that they wouldn't immediately pull troops out if elected. With my limited knowledge the best I can come up with is to get the politicians out of it and let the military do what it needs to do to win or at least bring the situation under control and then pull out. We have the greatest military on the planet, and if the politicians would let them do what they are capable of doing, we'd be much better off.
mpreszler
That wasn't actually me that stated about the Earned Income Tax Credit. That was from an article that I copied and pasted.
What I think (and I could be wrong) the author was talking about is the tax credit that single moms with low incomes can recieve. Their incomes are such that they don't have to pay income taxes (Federal taxes deducted from their paychecks is all refunded on April 15). But not only do they get that money back, they get additional refund for each child that they have. I believe $1000. So if $2000 was withheld from their paychecks and have one child, they recieve a refund of $3000. Hence they recieve an extra $1000. Anyway, again I may be wrong, but I think that is what the author was trying to say.
Thanks Librule, I was unaware that is what you had done. I totally understand what you are saying now. And yes, someone with children does fair better then I do when it comes to taxes as far as refunds go. No only do they get more back, but they pay less in then I do. (based on both of us earning same income level). But, I'm not going to go out and have a child just for the tax break. lol
Jumpin, I agree State is easier to get to make changes.
To the lonely lady,, their is a group thru Division of aging called E.V.E elderly visiting the elderly and you can have someone come and maybe make a new friend that has time to visit.. this group just matches up the people who need each other...
tamelaj or should I say this season's MJB: The point I was making was to Mr. Sullivan. "No pleasure" is not relevant to the entire premise of Speak Out. Anyone who submits a message like that deserves the treatment that they claim because they aren't proactive. Now I'm going to sleep because I have to make sure that you all with nothing to do can get from point a to point b safely.