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Speak Out 10/21/07

Sunday, October 21, 2007

Real issue?

IF I read the article correctly, Christ Church of the Heartland has been participating in the Angel Food Ministry for about four years. Since the neighbors only recently started complaining, I would like to know what the real issue is. Is the real issue the fact that the church is growing and expanding on its own property? If the real issue is concerns about noise and traffic, why are neighbors not complaining about the nearby apartment complex? Surely the apartments generate more noise and traffic than the church does once a month.

Tarnished prize

AL GORE winning the Nobel Peace Prize for his movie efforts to protect the environment is like Adolf Hitler winning a prize for population control. Both made assertions to others, in order to win their favor and get them to agree with their world view, that were based on half-baked science and downright half-truths. There were many candidates for that prize who were more deserving. The Nobel Prize has become another useless, meaningless award whose recipients win based upon media coverage and political influence, not on any real substance or accomplishment by the recipient. How sad.

MAP recognition

MY STUDENT was awarded last week for achieving the advanced level on the MAP test at Jackson Junior High School. It is nice to see something positive come out of the MAP. Thank you, Jackson Junior High School, for recognizing all these hard-working students.

Blowing in the wind

BOB DYLAN wrote the song "Blowing in the Wind" in which one verse says, "How many deaths does it take till he knows too many people have died?" This is a good question for Congress. How many are enough? How many barrels of oil is a soldier worth? How much money is enough? Do we really need for our soldiers to die to give us a 20 percent return on our investments? The answer is not blowing in the wind. It is in Congress and the morals of our nation.

Thanks for picnic

I WOULD like to thank the Millersville Fire Department for its picnic. It was nice to see how they remembered the firefighters from 30 years ago. My husband was one of them, and my grandkids got to see pictures of him. It was nice. Thank you.

Plot for failure

THE ANTI-WAR crowd in Congress has found a roundabout way to cause our defeat in Iraq. Led by House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, the war opponents plan to pass a resolution condemning Turkey, our ally, for genocide against Armenians nearly a century ago. Turkey is rightly outraged. If the resolution is passed, Turkey may rescind its support of our efforts by no longer allowing us to use air bases in Turkey as resupply points for our forces. In war, logistics support is the most vital element. You can do all the tactical and strategic planning possible, but without logistical support for your ops, you will fail. Study, for example, Germany in the Battle of the Bulge. The upshot of all this is, thanks to Pelosi and her Democrat friends, we may soon see more of our brave fighting men and women die and lose this war.

Look at Saudis

WHEN IS America going to wake up? It's not the Iraqis we should be fighting. It's the Saudis. Saudis were the main terrorists on 9/11. They have been blackmailing the U.S. with oil since way back in the 1970s. The royal Saudi family is using the U.S. as a security blanket to buy their gold-plated cars and have lavish lifestyles. Now oil is $88 a barrel.

Thanks for wallet

I WOULD like thank the mail carrier on South Sprigg Street. He saw me drop my wallet coming out of a gas station and quickly alerted me. Thanks.

Data on fatalities

REPORTS FOUND on the Centers for Disease Control Web site state the average number of fatalities every year due to dog attacks (all dogs, not just pit bulls) is 16. The same agency reports gun-related fatalities as 32,436 a year. This does not include people that have killed other people by strangulation, suffocation, beating, bludgeoning, burning and stabbing. Sixteen deaths a year versus 32,436 deaths per year, yet people are calling dogs vicious, dangerous and bloodthirsty. I would be more concerned about a neighbor walking around with a loaded gun than two pit bulls.

Time for opposition

IN THE last congressional election, I thought I voted for a Republican. However our congresswoman continues to vote with the Democrats. I think it's time she faces some serious primary competition.

Need chip and seal

WE NEED chip and seal, because the plan is to pave county roads that don't deserve to be paved. If we're going to pave dead-end roads that have little traffic, we should not spend any more money than we really have to. We should be paving the roads that deserve to be paved. If we're going to pave driveways for people, let's use chip and seal.

Classroom time

THE STUDENTS at Central Junior High were given manuals to help in math, which I am thankful for because for three school days the math class has been decorating doors for a spirit contest instead of valuable classroom time. But who cares, right? The school board doesn't listen to the parents, but the board wants us to be involved. Last week, the school had a fire drill. Now there is another one this week to impress the fire department. I have an idea. Why doesn't the school try to impress students and parents by teaching? Maybe students would learn and quit failing.

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Regarding Time for Opposition... I agree. It's time JoAnn is out of there.

-- Posted by QT-PIE on Sun, Oct 21, 2007, at 8:52 AM


I agree with you if I am understanding you correctly. Why does it always have to be Dem vs Rep, Lib vs Cons as a whole package. Yes someone may not like Pelosi but that does not make every Dem a Pelosi Dem. No more then if you dislike Bush, makes ever Rep a Bush Rep. Many in their parties don't agree with their messages or stances on issues.

I know when I first moved out here I voted for Emerson though not a Registered Rep. From what I knew at the time, I thought she was doing a good job for Cape. Now that I have had time to view her record on what I (meaning me, not anyone else) find important to me, feel that maybe she isn't as good as I once thought. Has nothing to do with her party, and more to do with ME holding her accountable for issues I find important to me.

-- Posted by notsureitssafeinhere on Sun, Oct 21, 2007, at 9:54 AM


While I agree that the zoning issue is what is set before us, it has been shown that the Angel Food Ministry is NOT the real issue. It is only one of the issues that has been successfully used against CCOTH. The church had originally wanted to have daycare, etc but had withdrawn that after the opposition arose. My understanding is that communications is needed about other things. I personally know one of those involved in the fight against CCOTH. The attitude they give is 'not in my neighborhood.' Not one of reconciliation or compromise. In fact, in reading this persons claim in the paper, I almost choked laughing. (Personal experience with one individual and their family.) So Mr Voss may get concessions on the part of CCOTH but I doubt he is successful in getting the neighbors to waiver one bit. Kind of like, 'this is only one battle but not the war.'

-- Posted by KingsKid on Sun, Oct 21, 2007, at 12:29 PM


Do you eat paint chips or something? Posting someone else's personal information on this forum, or anywhere else on the internet is the same as writing "for a good time call..." on the urnial wall over at Don's Store 24. Maybe you are related to F.A.R.M., which would expain much, but is still unforgivable.

-- Posted by Lumpy on Sun, Oct 21, 2007, at 4:56 PM

Blowing in the wind: Great song. Liked the version by Peter, Paul and Mary but also like Dylan. One must really listen to the lyrics to understand the true nature of what Dylan was actually saying. It still holds true today after more than 40 years and another war started on a lie where millions died.

-- Posted by oldvet on Sun, Oct 21, 2007, at 5:07 PM

What deloach posted about the man who is against the Angel Food Ministry is not private information. This information is readily found because it is part of his public record as a state employee.

I checked, and you can find out this information about any instructor at a state-supported university. This is not this man's private #, it's his work number, which any of you can get. You can also find out his academic credentials with very little effort.

In fact, there's lots more that's part of the public record. So what is posted here is really nothing and is definitely not a violation of the man's privacy.

-- Posted by SEMOfan80 on Sun, Oct 21, 2007, at 8:06 PM


i was in no way "attacking" you or your responses.

you lamented that the church and city should reach a compromise on an area for the distribution.

my answer was "it can not happen---period".

and the reason is because the church does not have the money to pay for it.

and it seemed that many here were disillusioned concerning the "real issues" in this case.

angel food is just the obvious symptom of a greater problem.

and that problem is a neighbor who thinks that he can dictate if and when a church ministers as it sees fit.

and then a city government siding with said neighbor.

again i provide facts not warm and fuzzies.

my previous post simply quoted this newspaper.

how is that a low blow toward anyone?

this city is bogged down by a spirit of religion and it is long past time for this thing to break.


and before folks claim that calling people out on their wrongful actions is unbiblical and not a demonstration of the life of jesus.

i will remind you that jesus called a gentile woman a dog, the jewish leaders snakes, and peter he called satan.

i am not trying to be "mean".

there are things going on under the surface that are very sinister and could carry a bad precedent for churches all over cape.

not just christ church.

the folks that are at the forefront of this attack on the church have stated that they will not quit until this church moves or shuts down it's plans for growth.

and if that takes a little venom on my part so be it.

-- Posted by deloach on Mon, Oct 22, 2007, at 9:57 PM

tamelaj, you only learned the neighbor's name here because you obviously did not either attend the meeting at which the permit was denied or read the Southeast Missourian article about it. His name was supplied both places before deloach repeated it here. As for his occupation, why shouldn't deloach state it here? It's not some dark secret. The man has a job working in the public sector, he's been quoted in the paper in his official capacity as a SEMO professor, and other things like that. You're accusing deloach of doing something wrong when he hasn't.

-- Posted by SEMOfan80 on Tue, Oct 23, 2007, at 9:22 PM

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