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Speak Out 10/12/07

Friday, October 12, 2007

Free to choose

I HAVE read two or three comments about placing students -- channeling, some call it -- in career paths at an early age. Are you out of your mind? If you want that much government control of your life, move to China or Cuba or North Korea. Here we tend to lean toward allowing our citizens to make decisions for themselves. You may test a child and determine he or she has an aptitude for medicine. This, however, does not make anyone a good physician. People are most productive and successful when doing what they enjoy.

Political history

I WAS appalled at some of the comments from history teachers about Christopher Columbus. Their job is to teach history. If, historically speaking, there was a plague that wiped out one-third of the population, teach that there was a plague that wiped out one-third of the population. Leave personal politics out of it. From the point of view of Old Europe at that time, Columbus discovered a new land, one that was not on maps. Whether knowledge of that land had been forgotten or not is not the issue. That there were people here already is not the issue. That the society that grew out of his discovery turned, for too long a time, to slavery, is not the issue. Historically, he found a new land and paved the way for the foundation of our nation. That's what children should be learning in history class. Check your personal politics at the door, please.

Listen to the show

IF YOU insist on making derogatory remarks about Rush Limbaugh, his show and something he said, at least do him the common courtesy of listening to his show so you know what was said. He did not call soldiers who oppose the war phonies. He was speaking about a specific person who, by the way, is going to jail for impersonating a wounded soldier and trying to bilk the VA out of disability money. The people who should be embarrassed are in the media and Congress for their outright lies about the exchange between Rush and the caller that led to all this hoopla.

Great job in Jackson

I WENT to "Lunch Reservations" at Jackson Junior High School on Friday. What a great job the student council did seating and filling drinks. The Tech Hounds also did a great job grilling. All of the proceeds went to the United Way. Great job, Jackson Junior High School.

Three great things

I THINK the three best things going for living in Jackson would be 1. the women at the post office, 2. the women in the video department at Riverside library, and 3. the marvelously uplifting messages on the sign at the Presbyterian Church.

Perfect candidate

THE OXFORD Research Group recently released a study showing that the war on terrorism has fueled more terrorism than there would have been. Why haven't the presidential candidates recognized this? The perfect candidate would be a Republican who wants to end the war in Iraq and defend the U.S. at home. Where is this candidate? Giuliani, Thompson and Romney have all been fooled by the terrorists to stir up violence in the Mideast, and this will come back to hurt America in the long run. I'll have to take a closer look at the lesser known candidates.

Food prices at stake

WHILE PRESIDENT Bush brags about the crackdown on illegal aliens, the Department of Labor is in the process of liberalizing the rules so farmers can continue to use illegals. Consumers should support this, lest food prices go through the roof.

Poor street condition

I THINK the condition of Independence Street from Kingshighway to West End Boulevard is an embarrassment. This is a high-traffic street that is in poor condition. I can't recall any road work on this street for several years.

Paying dividends

TWELVE YEARS ago, the stock market index was 3,000. Today the index is over 14,000. Can't we agree that investors have received more than their fair share of America's wealth? It is time the working poor be given financial relief in the form of health care. If an annual tax credit were mandated to be used by those in need to be used to purchase private health insurance for their families, perhaps our differences could be overcome and the much needed protection for America's backbone, the workers, would be realized. Corporations receive welfare and earmarks to build their business. Why can't the hard-working, productive American worker receive his dividends?

Great big photos

WHEN YOU like and appreciate something, say so. So here it is. I can hardly wait to see the latest giant photograph on the Missourian's front page. They have been spectacular, each one deserving a blue ribbon. The new look got underway big time during the SEMO District Fair and continues to surprise readers with interesting, illustrated stories. Friday's Central High School band picture on the field at Houck Stadium is a classic.

Comics tell stories

I AGREE "Funky Winkerbean" hasn't been very funny, but it wasn't meant to be. It has been telling a story that unfortunately has been playing out in homes all across our country. This is Breast Cancer Awareness Month. The comic strip is another way to open people's eyes to the effects of a horrible sickness. Some of the other comics are also telling stories, like "For Better or Worse" with the grandfather's stroke.

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What is this "Haven't they earned their fair share" CRAP. These people weren't given anything. They earned it. I am sick and tired of people who claim that they are "Less Fortunate" than somebody else, and expect the government to take money by force from one group of people and give it to their ever expanding group of sheeple. You show me someone who is "Less Fortunate" and I will show you someone who ****** away all of their chances to make a better life for themselves. The opportunities for anyone to better themselves are there, but you won't get them by sitting on your but waiting for someone to take care of you.

All right I'll get off of my soapbox now.

It just flat out ****** me off when someone demands that the government take from someone who has earned and gives it to someone who has their hand out to sell his or her vote.

-- Posted by DARTHJASON on Fri, Oct 12, 2007, at 9:24 AM

Instead of acquiring more property, Southeast Hospital should concentrate more on improving its current services. Believe me, there's much work to be done there.

-- Posted by iago on Fri, Oct 12, 2007, at 9:51 AM


Totally agree with you about Lacey St. In addition, them acquiring Lacey St will put an even larger burden on the surrounding homeowners when the hospital employees flee to a different street to smoke. LET THEM PAY!

-- Posted by cal on Fri, Oct 12, 2007, at 10:12 AM

What is the deal with Southeast. I don't allow smoking in my home but to try to tell someone they can't out on a public street kind of smacks of Big Brother.


If you haven't read Ayn Rand you should. I am a big Ranist and she said years ago what you are saying now. One of her first books "We the Living" shows what happened in Russia when everything was taken from those who ran things and given to the "less fortunate" (Communists) She was a Russian Jew during the white/red war and later came to this country. She has been dead for twenty years but much of her essay work on our failing economy and what welfare really does to society can't be argued against anymore. I can't agree with her on her views of religion but none the less a brilliant mind.


I won't be able to do the lunch thing today. Matter of fact doubt I'll even be online anymore for a couple of days. Thanks for the consideration and invite.

-- Posted by Donnie on Fri, Oct 12, 2007, at 10:12 AM

I think the homeowners around Southeast Hospital should take their cameras and snap pictures of those employees smoking then littering on their property then give them to the hospital.

One person gets fired over it and you can rest asure that the rest won't be littering in your lawn anymore.

Also, I'm a smoker so this isn't about smokers it's about the disrespectful smokers that discard their butts into other peoples yards.

-- Posted by Mosely on Fri, Oct 12, 2007, at 10:40 AM


I would also suggest a quick email from residents to the mayor and city council members . Find the right one here


-- Posted by Tom_Grey on Fri, Oct 12, 2007, at 10:58 AM

RE: Political history

So you don't consider the fact that Native Americans lived on this land before Christopher Columbus' discovery it worth teaching in HISTORY class?!

You also don't believe that the politics surrounding Christopher Columbus' discovering America is worth teaching either?

You're a hypocrite saying that teachers should "Check your personal politics at the door..." You're trying to go around the facts to create some wonderful "historic" moment. These are facts that came with his discovery...get a clue! History is about FACTS!

-- Posted by foodie on Fri, Oct 12, 2007, at 11:08 AM

To the person speaking of Comedian Rush Limbaugh's little flub on the "Phony Soldiers":

I WAS listening to the show when he said it, I DID hear the context it was said in, and I am perceptive enough to realize what is wrong and right. Anyone who actually DID listen to the show and HEARD the comment, and still has the gonads to sit and defend him, is as warped and dilusional as that moron is. Rush Limbaugh is a disgrace to society, a disgrace to the United States of America...and its Armed Forces, and a huge disgrace to Cape Girardeau, Missouri. It's high-time someone stand up to him and call him out for his loud, obnoxious, and beligerent comments. I only wish he would give someone a chance to debate with him nose to nose, face to face. The fine young soldier who made the commercial offered to....several times.....BUT TO NO AVAIL!!! Rush is afraid he will be proven wrong. That is his biggest problem, way too much ego. SHAME ON YOU RUSH, AND SHAME ON THOSE WHO ACTUALLY BELIEVE THE LIES AND SIDESTEPS OF SOMEONE WHO DIDNT HAVE ENOUGH SENSE TO KEEP HIS BIG MOUTH SHUT!!!

-- Posted by jxnmoguy714 on Fri, Oct 12, 2007, at 11:13 AM

Let's put this Rush Limbaugh phoney soldier statement to rest. How many times have we heard judge a person by their actions and not their words? The financial support Rush has given our troops speaks for itself. Plus, as boisterous as Rush is, you would know if he thought this way about all troops because that is all he would say day in and day out.

People on the left are doing the same thing people on the right did back during Kerry's bad joke about our military's education level. We all take one little thing and say ah ha, gotcha. Just drop it already.

-- Posted by cal on Fri, Oct 12, 2007, at 11:37 AM

Hilleco and Donnie,

Thanks for the reading suggestions.

I am currently reading "Somebody's Got To Say It" by Neal Boortz. I don't agree with everything he says but his book pretty much tells it like it is about the problems with our government schools, politics, and The non-existant "Right to Vote" for the president. I am not done with the book yet, but I would definately recommend it to you guys.

-- Posted by DARTHJASON on Fri, Oct 12, 2007, at 12:22 PM

Simply put,Rush Linbaugh is a fat little man and a hypocrite!I recall several of his on air tirades about drug abusers and as it turns out he is as well.Best not to pay any attention to any entertainers because when you give them a media they will always spout off at the mouth!I will go one step further and say he is very bad for the Republican party.Rush supporters need to realize he is nothing more then an overpaid entertainer on

prescription pain killers obtained illegally!

Yes,you have the power to silence him,just tune out!If any of us had been caught with priscription drugs obtained illegally we would be behind bars in some jail or prison.This loud mouth gets off with a hand slap.

-- Posted by GREYWOLF on Fri, Oct 12, 2007, at 12:25 PM

I also listened to the Rush Limbaugh Show and his comments. Unfortunately, the name calling pinheads that do not like him will do what they always do. HEAR WHAT THEY WANT TO HEAR.

I am a vet and I also know what Rush does to support our military.

I will go further than Rush did. I have met "phony soldiers", many that have not legitimately worn the uniform and a few that have. The ones that have are disgruntled because they did not join to protect but to take what they could from the military, i.e. education, training, and other benefits. We live in an era of takers and unfortunately if they are refused, they become irate and irrational in their thinking.

-- Posted by Balmy on Fri, Oct 12, 2007, at 12:32 PM

A little history lesson : If you don't know the answer make your best guess. Answer all the questions before looking at the answers. Who said it? [ You will be shocked by the answers.]

1) "We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good."

A. Karl Marx

B. Adolph Hitlerdd

C. Joseph Stalin

D. None of the above

2) "It's time for a new beginning, for an end to government of the few, by the few, and for the few...a nd to replace it with shared responsibility for shared prosperity."

A. Lenin

B. Mussolini

C. Idi Amin

D. None of the Above

3) "(We)...can't just let business as usual go on, and that means something has to be taken away from some people."

A. Nikita Khrushev

B. Josef Goebbels

C. Boris Yeltsin

D. None of the above

4) "We have to build a political consensus and that requires people to give up a little bit of their own...in order to create this common ground."

A. Mao Tse Dung

B. Hugo Chavez

C. Kim Jong Il

D. None of the above

5) "I certainly think the free-market has failed."

A. Karl Marx

B. Lenin

C. Molotov

D. None of the above

6) "I think it's time to send a clear message to what has become the most profitable sector in (the) entire economy that they are being watched."

A. Pinochet

B. Milosevic

C. Saddam Hussein

D. None of the above


(1) D. None of the above. Statement was made by Hillary Clinton 6/29/2004

(2) D. None of the above. Statement was made by Hillary Clinton 5/29/2007

(3) D. None of the above. Statement was made by Hillary Clinton 6/4/2007

(4) D. None of the above. Statement was made by Hillary Clinton 6/4/2007

(5) D. None of the above. Statement was made by Hillary Clinton 6/4/2007

(6) D. None of the above. Statement was made by Hillary Clinton 9/2/2005

Be afraid. Be very, very afraid!

-- Posted by FreedomFadingFast on Fri, Oct 12, 2007, at 1:00 PM

Balmy: Wow!! Talk about judging. Have no idea what your age is nor when you served but I too have met a few, even on here, who said they served but when they talked about their units they were in the wrong era or wrong branch. So I have to ask did you join or did you get drafted like so many of us?

As I stated early here some days ago I was in the barber shop when I heard the broadcast and I have since read the transcript to make sure I wasn't mistaken in what I thought I heard. Rush did not say soldier, he said soldiers, now read my comments from days ago and you will see I said if he intended to say only about the one soldier I was cool with that. But he should have said that instead of trying to cover his behind with BS. I don't care to debate the issue anymore just lets keep the facts out there. Read the transcript.

-- Posted by cannedheat on Fri, Oct 12, 2007, at 1:03 PM

Food prices at stake,

That's why they are called migrant workers. They migrate from place picking, lettuce, watermelon, and other crops that haven't been mechanized.

I'm not for ILLEGAL immigration (hence the large illegal word) but migrant workers are okay just as long as they apply for that status, work during harvest seasons, finish, and migrate back south across the border. Kind of like what geese do.

-- Posted by fajar154 on Fri, Oct 12, 2007, at 1:11 PM

Corporate Welfare

In a perfect world there would be no corporate welfare.

The reality is that the gov't either gives corporations "corporate welfare" or the corporations take their business and their jobs overseas.

Chose your own "worst of 2 evils.

-- Posted by FreedomFadingFast on Fri, Oct 12, 2007, at 1:15 PM


Either my writing skills or your reading skills are subpar.

I don't believe theft is ever cool for any reason no matter who it may benefit.

As far as corp welfare, I didn't say I liked or agreed with either of the two scenerios.

I was merely stating the way it is in this country in this day and age.

P.S. We elected the politicians who dole out the corporate welfare, and as we do every election, we will re-elect 90 plus percent of them in the next election. (As evidenced in the 90+% incumancy rate every election). So who is at fault: The politicians or is it "we the people" who continue to re-elect them?

-- Posted by FreedomFadingFast on Fri, Oct 12, 2007, at 1:57 PM

The granting of Lacey St. to SE Hospital is preposterous. If the city does go ahead with this, it is a dangerous precedent to set. If they really want that street so they can play smoking-nazis, they need to pay the city a fair market price. The taxpayers have paid for the building and upkeep on that street for decades. It has actual market value. As taxpayers, citizens should be outraged that the city plans to give it away with no input from them.

There needs to be, at a minimum, a study done to see how much traffic would be generated on the surrounding streets as well as the number of pedestrians encroaching on privately owned yards nearby due to the increasing circle of non-smoking rights.

Imagine if Wal Mart asked to be granted immient domain of the farm across the street from them. It would be sold as a health concern: The feces smell from the cows cause nausea in shoppers which leads to more instances of vomiting in the parking lot area which increases exposure to viral infections. Wal Mart demands the farm area to protect it's high traffic and socially important business. It's very easy to get people to stand up and say 'Yeah, I don't like to smell poo!' Then via precedents set by the city and also by the US Supreme Court, who recently ruled that indeed the government can just take land from owners to give to commercial interests if it is deemed valuable in terms of tax dollars, Wal Mart asks for and receives that farm.

Slippery slope and highly,highly unfair to tax payers as well as St Francis. Are we planning to give them some streets? If not, then the city has just de facto supported SE Hospital over St Francis.

-- Posted by jumpinjehova on Fri, Oct 12, 2007, at 2:02 PM

Re: Lacey Street

Is there any other way into Southeast parking lot other than Lacey Street? I don't see why the city would give this street to the hosp. I do agree that the street should only be used for hosp entrance and exit, but that's all.

About the smoking issue: I wouldn't be surprised if Southeast does own Lacey they would ban smoking on the street. I'm not even a smoker, but come on, give smokers a break. Yes, I admit I hate to be around smoke, but you try to have a family member in the hosp. and the only thing that calms you down is smoking--from what I've heard. The only place they can smoke now is on Lacey. If Southeast owns this street, they will ban it there too.

-- Posted by Baby Girl on Fri, Oct 12, 2007, at 2:03 PM

If it weren't for fear, this government could not operate. Guess that applies to any government. People are motivated by fear.

-- Posted by cannedheat on Fri, Oct 12, 2007, at 2:06 PM

Where is St Francis Hospital and why are they not crying foul? I bet they'd like a street around them as a gift from the city!

-- Posted by jumpinjehova on Fri, Oct 12, 2007, at 2:18 PM

Re: Lacey Street

Teling smokers to go onto the other surrounding streets ends up having those people living there having to deal with SE Hospital's overflow and 'second rate citizen' smokers. People will wander down onto Braodway or try and cross over to the park. Now you have increased numbers of police calls to respond to homeowners upset and/or vehicle sticken pedestrians, which increases cost of police and fire untis responding to these. This also has the effect of driving down property values of those surrounding houses which makes it even easier for SE to buy them out. They expand more and pass this same issue on down to the outlying areas of their new expanded zone. Rinse, repeat.

This is way more than just getting a street. It is a first step of a huge cost savings of expansion for the hospital.

-- Posted by jumpinjehova on Fri, Oct 12, 2007, at 2:26 PM


No need to apologize.

Just jump on the 1 term/term limit constitutional amendment bandwagon in order to save ourselves from ourselves. (Unless anyone thinks that the "Little Green Fairy" is going to sprinkle magic dust on us to make us stop re-electing the same politicians election after election after election after election)no matter how poor of a job we think they are doing. Can anyone say "11% congressional approval" while we pull the lever for the incumbents?

-- Posted by FreedomFadingFast on Fri, Oct 12, 2007, at 2:32 PM


Great response to this issue with Lacey St.

I suggest you copy and paste your argument

to jknudtson@cityofcapegirardeau.org he needs to read it.I did earlier and asked

him if the City would give me my street!I even offered him nothing for it.This issue

takes the cake and eats it too.You will notice that Our Mayor is also on the board

at Southeast Hospital!!!!Oh!, and do not forget to e-mail your ward member.We the

Citizens need to step up and make our voices heard on this ridiculous request by S.E.Hospital.

-- Posted by GREYWOLF on Fri, Oct 12, 2007, at 2:48 PM

Amen to that!!

-- Posted by FreedomFadingFast on Fri, Oct 12, 2007, at 2:52 PM

Librule: Isn't it amazing how we hate Congress but love our members. I was part of a discussion group a few years back on the reason why we don't like Congress but continue to elect the same people. The most stated reason was people liked their individual Representative or Senators but thought the rest of the country was pretty stupid to elect the ones they did. Think it has anything to do with name recognition, laziness, or a little of both?

How can 89% of the people dislike something and it still remains the same?

-- Posted by cannedheat on Fri, Oct 12, 2007, at 2:59 PM

Every ward member, the mayor and the city manager already have my thoughts emailed to them.

-- Posted by jumpinjehova on Fri, Oct 12, 2007, at 3:15 PM

Petions against the gift of Lacey St to Se Hopsital will be present at the gun show this weekend at Ac Brase. Look for the Ron Paul table.

-- Posted by jumpinjehova on Fri, Oct 12, 2007, at 3:20 PM


I would say a little name recognition, a little more laziness, a bunch more reliance on liberal media and conservative talk radio/tv, but mostly ideology.

Those who are conservative vote mostly republican no matter what, and those who are liberal mostly vote democrat no matter what.

As for myself, I partially healed my flawed voting past in the last election by voting for every libertarian on the ballot. It was just my little protest. Considering the next election's choices, I just may do the same again. (But then again, I did know all of the answers to the history lesson that I posted earlier). I'm afraid, very, very afraid!!! LOL

-- Posted by FreedomFadingFast on Fri, Oct 12, 2007, at 3:21 PM

P.S. with regards to Lacey St. Since this street has to do with a hospital which has to do with healthcare, we can all rest easy.

When Hillary is elected she will take care of this problem by taxing cigarettes out of existence and using the money to pay for the street. See, no more smoking AND a free street. Wait a minute, somebody has to pay for free. Oh well, when WILL I learn?

-- Posted by FreedomFadingFast on Fri, Oct 12, 2007, at 3:31 PM

Rumor has it Southeast Hospital has submitted an under the table bid for Lacey St. If their demands are met, they have no problem purchasing the street for fair market value. The demands include a round about at each end of Lacey rebuilt three times like the one on Silver Springs near St. Francis Hospital.

This post is for entertainment purposes only and I hope it gave you a smile.

-- Posted by cal on Fri, Oct 12, 2007, at 3:33 PM

I was just reading Paying Dividends and I sure do want to apologize to the poster of that comment. On behalf of myself and all of America's working people who have their retirement funds tied up in the stock market,(Mutual funds snd 401K's), we're sorry. Sorry that we are recieving more than our fair share of the wealth so that we won't have to live off of the gov't when our working days are over. I think I'll cash it all in and give it to the working poor (since they deserve it more than I do) and then when I retire I'll expect and demand that in the future your kids are taxed to the hilt so that the gov't can provide me with a living. Again, I apologize for corporations making profit, which increases the value of its stocks of which I own through mutual funds and 401K's, and therefore providing me with a decent income with which to live on in my golden years.

-- Posted by FreedomFadingFast on Fri, Oct 12, 2007, at 4:18 PM


Just for clarification, it was not your Paying Dividends post, but rather the one in speak out that I was refering to. Don't care much for Euros. I worship the almighty greenback!!!!!!!!!!

-- Posted by FreedomFadingFast on Fri, Oct 12, 2007, at 4:22 PM

If you are worshipping the 'mighty greenback' you might want to ask the Fed why they are insisting on driving the value of the dollar down and trying to break it. If Greenspan says so, it is. Know what he's been saying lately? The dollar is bottoming out. Guess what it is doing? Bottoming out.

-- Posted by jumpinjehova on Fri, Oct 12, 2007, at 4:29 PM

All this talk of being upset about the Lacey Street is nice and all, but where will you be Monday night? I encourage EVERYONE with an opinion on this to come down and express it, even if you think they should be granted the property. Doing nothing ensures that your voice is not heard. STAND UP AND SPEAK OUT!

-- Posted by jumpinjehova on Fri, Oct 12, 2007, at 4:41 PM

Is the US Dollar's relationship to Euros a direct result of our free market economy correcting itself? It makes sense to me that with the increase in foreign goods over the last several years and the money going oversees, the US Dollar should drop. When the Dollar drops, it should make foreign goods cost more in relation to US made goods. Would love to hear responses from some of you in the Economic field that have provided sound knowledge in the past.

-- Posted by cal on Fri, Oct 12, 2007, at 4:42 PM

"Lunch at the Global Cafe may much resemble a scene from the movie Mrs. Doubtfire starring Robin Williams."

-- Posted by QT-PIE on Thu, Oct 11, 2007, at 10:44 PM

Please forgive this retro comment from yesterday's Speak Out and the cut and paste, but that is the funniest **** thing I've read since Hector was a pup.

-- Posted by nuit_de_trois_chiens on Fri, Oct 12, 2007, at 4:43 PM

I ate lunch there today and not once did I set my fake breasts aflame!

-- Posted by jumpinjehova on Fri, Oct 12, 2007, at 4:49 PM

Since we are bring in yesterday's funny posts, here's a snippet from Elizabeth.

Perhaps our own 'tea' protest would help. Anyone else interested in a tea bag to Emerson?

Maybe a half dozen folks just got that...

-- Posted by jumpinjehova on Fri, Oct 12, 2007, at 4:56 PM

City Attorney Eric Cunningham says by giving up Lacey Street from Broadway to Sunset Street, that "the city wouldn't have to maintain it, and that's a big, ongoing expense that wouldn't be there."

Oh puuuleeeezzzz. I bet those 2 or 3 blocks are just breaking Cape's budget.

Man, oh man, tamela, did you have any idea this whole ball of crap was gonna result from your complaints about "butts" in your yard?? Was your original, very legitimate complaint to the city what caused the story, or did they interview you after starting a story about SEMO Hospital's non-smoking campus? Either way, SEMO Hospital has something up their sleeve. It may be as simple as getting the smokers off their front door, or it could be they are setting this up to try to expand the hospital, as many think. Incidentally, I have always really liked SEMOHOSP., but if they think they should get this street, this piece of property, for nuthin', they got another think comin'!

-- Posted by nuit_de_trois_chiens on Fri, Oct 12, 2007, at 5:09 PM

I email and received a reply from at one of our city councilmen thus far so they are acknowledging the outcry. EVERYONE please coem to the city hall meeting Monday night to express your opinions. STAND UP AND SPEAK OUT!

-- Posted by jumpinjehova on Fri, Oct 12, 2007, at 5:20 PM

Sorry for the previous misspellings and half sentances. Anyway, I received a reply from the city manager who tells me he will bring up the problems some of us have about the Lacey St Grant. Everyone show up and see if that happens! SPEAK UP!

-- Posted by jumpinjehova on Fri, Oct 12, 2007, at 5:22 PM

Just a point of economic interest:

According to an article in yesterday's SE Missourian (or was it Wednesday's) the defeceit is down 40% and at its lowest in 5 years.

Who took away the checkbook from congress?

-- Posted by FreedomFadingFast on Fri, Oct 12, 2007, at 5:43 PM


I'm not completely sure and maybe someone can help me on this. I know our mayor is on the board for SEMO Hospital. But is any others on the council on the board? And if so, do they have to excuse themselves from the vote? Would it be a conflict of interest for memebers on the board of SEMO to vote to give Lacey St to the hospital?


-- Posted by notsureitssafeinhere on Fri, Oct 12, 2007, at 6:06 PM

Southeast Hospital gets Lacey Street????? Don't even get me started on that morgue joint!

-- Posted by iago on Fri, Oct 12, 2007, at 6:34 PM


The KFVS news ran a story on the Lacey street issue. They said there was a meeting Monday night and they showed you picking up cig from the sidewalk. That was all I caught.

-- Posted by notsureitssafeinhere on Fri, Oct 12, 2007, at 7:40 PM

tamelaj: at one time there was what I heard was a somewhat "organized" group of sunset area neighbors trying to preserve the neighborhood against the hospital's growth. you probably already know about them having lived over there. that is such a nice neighborhood over there. here are two links to some past articles involving that group's mission several years ago. it may not help out for this current need, but you never know. people should not loose interest in keeping the beauty and integrity of that neighborhood and limiting the control the hospital has over it.



-- Posted by QT-PIE on Fri, Oct 12, 2007, at 7:50 PM


Just found this info on the Mayor and his connection to the hospital. So careful on what he tells you.

Community Involvement

Southeast Missouri Hospital Trustee

Southeast Missouri Hospital Foundation Board


-- Posted by notsureitssafeinhere on Fri, Oct 12, 2007, at 8:25 PM


I checked the city council memebers with the Foundation and Board of Directors and couldn't find any council members on the either. Though some council memebers could have family members on the them. Not sure.

I know I'm not really being that helpful sorry. I can't make the meetings on Monday or Wed. but need to sign one of your petitions though. Forgot to do that today at lunch.

I have found many at the hospital that agree with you, but I'm sure the Admin. won't let me circulate a petition here.


-- Posted by notsureitssafeinhere on Fri, Oct 12, 2007, at 8:56 PM

We understand Tamelaj, do what you have to do. I have been looking to see if I could find any council members associated with SEHospital, but can't find any. I have called one council member but could not reach him will try again.

This is just wrong!!! Should be no Republican nor Democrat dispute on this one.

-- Posted by cannedheat on Fri, Oct 12, 2007, at 9:21 PM

This is what makes this forum so nice. Something comes up and it is a group effort to try to find a solution. See we can be civil and accomplish things at the same time.

Good night have to work tomorrow.

-- Posted by cannedheat on Fri, Oct 12, 2007, at 9:32 PM


I have to work tomorrow and sunday at second job. Maybe catch up with you monday before I go to work at the place "that shall not be named". LMAO


-- Posted by notsureitssafeinhere on Fri, Oct 12, 2007, at 9:45 PM

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