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Speak Out 9/21/07

Friday, September 21, 2007

Speed increase

WHEN DID the speed limit on Perryville Road increase to 45 mph?

Final honor

IT IS a shame that we cannot honor our military (veterans and active duty) with a live bugler playing taps at their funerals. This is one last honor each person deserves as a tribute. However, Missouri government has to put money elsewhere. Where are our priorities?

Fat receipts

I WOULD like to find out how we can get rid of the extra-long receipts we receive from retail stores. These are a hassle to deal with and bulk up our wallets too much.

Road needs repairs

CAPE GIRARDEAU County, how about doing something about the terrible road condition on the short stretch of road that runs south from Nash Road on the west side of the BioKyowa plant. Scott County fixed its part of that road a couple of years ago.

Driving dangers

WHY ARE people out to get everything outlawed? Some people want talking on a cell phone while driving to be against the law. How about talking to the passenger in your car? How about drinking a beverage, listening to your child crying in the back seat or changing your radio station? Let's make laws against everything.

Out of touch

THE ARTICLE about ethics in our government and the closed meetings that obviously should have been open are good examples of why we need term limits. The longer our politicians are on our payroll, the more egotistical they get, believing that our votes for them are permission to do whatever they want regardless of the laws. We should be finding ways to push for term limits instead of allowing our elected officials to become so jaded and so out of touch with their employers.

Smoking at the fair

I WISH the SEMO District Fair would ban all smoking there too. I took my daughter to play and have fun. I couldn't believe the amount of cigarette smoke in the air. She kept asking why so many people were smoking. Adults and teens were smoking nonstop in front of small children. I wish these people would at least respect children, since they do not respect themselves.

Complain about dog

IF YOUR neighbor is abusing a dog, call the police and ask to file a police report. Demand to make a formal complaint.

Crosstown mail

I AM responding to the comment about the mail. A letter mailed in Cape Girardeau to another Cape Girardeau address does not have to go to St. Louis before it is delivered. It gets processed at the plant here, then put on a mail truck and delivered.

E-mail records

GOV. MATT Blunt knows good and well that computers are the way that correspondence is sent and received now, and that he should be keeping e-mail for public record. Letters and correspondence have always been kept. Shame on him.

Scrunched fair

MY FAMILY and I enjoyed the SEMO District Fair this year except for armband night, which was crowded. There's plenty of acreage to spread the amusements around. Why cram it in such a small place?

Fitting tribute

I READ with disgust the article about taps being played at military funerals with a recording. My husband is still bothered over his time in Vietnam. Those weren't fake bullets being shot at him. I have been to several military funerals, and taps and color guard have always been a special tribute to veterans.

Engineered grass

THERE IS a need for bioengineered grass seed. If a seed could be developed which would be limited in growth, we could eliminate having to mow the yard. It would save a tremendous amount of energy, gasoline and income.

Helping the mail

THE POSTAL system has tried to speed up snail mail by using more machines to process mail faster. But it hasn't educated the public on what is machinable mail and what is not. Letter mail that is machinable contains up to five sheets of paper with the flap properly sealed. Any items like coins, ink pens, keys, DVDs and jewelry should not be in machinable mail. They are manual mail. Mail machines are like the scrambler at the fair. Anything loose will be thrown out of the machine and will not make it to its destination. Give manual mail to a window clerk. If you do not use a photo mailer, put your name and address on the back of every photo that you mail. That way they can be returned to you when they're found in a machine. Please do not put rubber bands around machinable mail. Just drop them in the box. Please use this information to speed your mail up and keep costs down.

Lacking grammar

AS AN English teacher, I agree with the comment about the poor grammar, spelling and writing skills of students. Sadly, many English teachers do not know grammar or sentence structure themselves. When I took graduate courses at Southeast Missouri State University. some in the English department ridiculed teaching grammar. And the curriculum in schools no longer includes grammar As a result, we no longer have traditional English classes but we have reading classes. How sad it is to see the beauty and correctness of the English language disappear.

Keep them in line

IN REGARD to school bullying: Good job, Officer Al. Keep doing what you're doing. Keep those students in line.

Street work

THE CITY had all summer long to repair the street in front of the Cape Christian School, but it chose to wait until school was open. It was utter chaos for parents or anybody else trying to get in and out of the school during the work. It could have been done when the school was closed. Mighty poor planning or just plain ignorance is all I can say for it.

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If complaining people are happy people...Southeast "Missurah" must be the happiest place on Earth!

-- Posted by allen6177 on Fri, Sep 21, 2007, at 12:53 AM

Personally, I would much rather be around smokers than be with those who ***** and complain about everything.

-- Posted by iago on Fri, Sep 21, 2007, at 5:29 AM

Last week I was at work when a customer walked in who worked at the fair.He needed some rough service light bulbs.He said the ride he operated at the fair was old and vibrated more then it should because many of its moving parts were worn out.This amazed me in that I sure would stay away from any

traveling carnival if indeed these amusement rides are in poor condition.Be careful all of you with young children because I believe many of these rides are VERY DANGEROUS!

-- Posted by GREYWOLF on Fri, Sep 21, 2007, at 5:37 AM

FINAL HOUR Why does it always have to be the governments fault? I conducted Military Funerals as part of my "extra duties" while in regular Army, and know a few of the people who are on the local funeral detail with the MO National Guard unit in Cape. Buglers are not a dime a dozen, and think about it, funerals are usually in the morning. Most bugelers are at their regular job at that time. Veterans DO deserve respect at their final resting place but a recording of the bone chilling tune will not make the service any less respectful.

-- Posted by Dr._Will_B._Inebreated on Fri, Sep 21, 2007, at 5:58 AM

Hear ye, hear ye! I say ban everyone and everything I don't like. Know ye not that I am the rightful owner of this universe and I am the only one that, after all, really matters?

-- Posted by iago on Fri, Sep 21, 2007, at 6:28 AM

Agreed, a live bugler is a good thing, if there is one available. I saw on the news where there is a shortage of buglers for funerals, added to by an increase in veteran funerals due to aging WWII/Korean heroes. People could learn to play the bugle and then volunteer to play at funerals instead of just complaining.

-- Posted by calypso12 on Fri, Sep 21, 2007, at 7:15 AM

iago, I seldom agree with with you but on this one I can. People seem to beg for more government control over their lives and I don't get it.

-- Posted by stevmo on Fri, Sep 21, 2007, at 7:17 AM

stevmo, thanks for agreeing with me, at least on this one occasion. My comment, however, had nothing to do with government control; it was directed toward those who seem to think they are the center of the universe and have great disdain for just about everything--races, creeds, personal habits, etc., if such does not conjunct with their "thinking." There are many justifiable reasons why some control has been moved from the local level to the feds. Yes, I am in favor of a national healthcare system. (Don't hate me for this, o.k.?)

-- Posted by iago on Fri, Sep 21, 2007, at 7:56 AM

English teacher, as an ex-teacher of English, I could not agree with you more. One of the reasons students cannot read today with comprehension is that they are not taught grammar. Grammar is essential to comprehension. While teaching English, I have had student teachers--supposedly English majors--who could not identify the subject and predicate of a simple sentence. Forget about finding a complement. What a shame.

-- Posted by iago on Fri, Sep 21, 2007, at 8:08 AM

I agree with the point of English Teacher----but to better state your case I would review proper punctuation!

(feels like the Grammar/Punctuation Police)

-- Posted by SuperBethie21 on Fri, Sep 21, 2007, at 8:59 AM

Smoking at the fair,

With so many people stuck in one area, forced to attend, I think that smoking should be banned in public places. Hell it should be banned everywhere. Like what iago said "Hear ye, hear ye! I say ban everyone and everything I don't like. Know ye not that I am the rightful owner of this universe and I am the only one that, after all, really matters?"

It isn't a proper event without one minority becoming offended and screwing the pooch for the majority. America, land of the defended offended.

I'm not a smoker and can't stand the smell of it, but I walk away from it when I'm outside. Or if I was there first, I ask politely if they could extinguish or move over? It's not my place to impede on anyone else's right to sustain fire with their mouth. But I try to avoid it. People need to speak up and tell those smokers that they need to smoke in other places and smoke more. Hillary Care is counting on it.

Or I flash the evil "Please exit my area or I'll spit tobacco juice down your throat" look.

Yes, I chew tobacco, but I'm just killing myself, no one else, AND I can afford my own insurance. So blah!

But that's my universe

-- Posted by fajar154 on Fri, Sep 21, 2007, at 9:42 AM

Engineered Grass

Buffalo grass is native to Missouri and has a limited height growth of 6 inches. At 6 inches it lays over nicely and you would not need to mow.

-- Posted by cal on Fri, Sep 21, 2007, at 10:20 AM

If you can stand one more comment about what the English teacher wrote, I would tell that teacher that she wrote a sentence fragment, and not a complete sentence when she wrote this: "And the curriculum in schools no longer includes grammar." No sentence begins with the word "and".

I reasoned that the lack of a period there, as well as the misplaced period in a previous sentence, were indications of poor typing, not of poor punctuation.

-- Posted by JoJax on Fri, Sep 21, 2007, at 10:59 AM


A couple of weeks ago you and I had a discussion about the terms Progressive & Liberal. Here is a link to an article that gives a better description than I can. This story goes along with what I was taught by people from a much older generation.


-- Posted by DARTHJASON on Fri, Sep 21, 2007, at 11:33 AM

oops sorry its hilleco. Not intentionally misspelled.

-- Posted by DARTHJASON on Fri, Sep 21, 2007, at 11:33 AM

The rules have changed and now you can start a sentence with "And".


-- Posted by justforfun on Fri, Sep 21, 2007, at 11:47 AM

RE: Smoking at the fair

As a smoker I can understand that maybe there needs to be a designated smoking area, and I don't feel that other smokers would really mind that. However BAN it all together? It's out-freakin'-side! You know, free air and all?

I haven't been to the fair in a LONG time, so maybe I am wrong about this; but isn't there a beer stand there? Why didn't the little girl start whining to her equally whiny mother about THAT?! (Not that I don't drink alcohol, but if you're going to crab about one vice...why not all?)

RE: Complain about dog

I think that the whole point of the original SpeakOut statement was that the police and Animal Control were not doing anything about it, despite the fact that the person WAS demanding to make a formal complaint. She should call up the ASPCA's head quarters and see what to do from there...

RE: Keep them in line

I don't go to this school and I don't know any children that do. However, if parents and children feel that they are being bullied, then THEY ARE. Don't support that, try supporting communication between all branches of the school.


I know that I am horrible at grammar, I had it in school and I didn't pay a lot of attention because it's really really boring. However I do regret that decision and the only two cents that I can put in is maybe there needs to be a way to make learning it more exciting....just a thought.

-- Posted by foodie on Fri, Sep 21, 2007, at 12:17 PM

Hillco, the problem with that is the federal government pays too much money for the states to balk. This has been a problem for a long time. 18 used to be the legal age to buy beer in most states, but the feds wanted the states to change the law to 21. The ones who resisted was denied money for roads. When I lived in Louisiana (hell hole) the roads were worse than MO's and the age was 18. That was in 1993-4. They have since changed the age to 21, however, by the grace of God I have not been back to see the roads.

On a personal note, even if the roads would improve the state would still be aweful. Even when adding perfume to feces, in the end you still have feces.

Fajar154....nice post as always.

-- Posted by Dr._Will_B._Inebreated on Fri, Sep 21, 2007, at 1:37 PM

Regarding the speeders through Jackson and the difficulty making left turns... I just drove through there and a Jackson city officer clocked me at 50 mph in a 40 mph zone and then a highway patrol man clocked me at 55 mph in a 40 mph zone and I didn't get stopped. As a result, my conclusion is either learn how to use your throttle pedal or learn how to plan your day so you only make right turns.

Additionally, to the idiot in the silver Cadillac CTS... the speed limit is 55 mph past Cape County Park. If you want to use your cell phone going 45 mph in the left lane: expect to get honked at and don't turn around when you do. Please God: Stop making people so stupid.

-- Posted by ynot on Fri, Sep 21, 2007, at 1:38 PM


your absolutely right and I apologise to everyone.I was sort of between work and

the hospital that entire week and now Im there again every day after work.Nick is right I should have taken a moment when the

fair worker came in and got on the web.Again

I am sorry.In my buisness I do see many things I would love to reveal to the public but I need to be careful.Let me say at least this,eat at home and forget eating out!

I promise I won't screw up next time.

-- Posted by GREYWOLF on Fri, Sep 21, 2007, at 2:26 PM

RE: smoking

tamelaj, I agreed with most of what you wrote until you said "Please provide credible evidence that there are health concerns regarding second hand outdoor cigarette/cigar smoke". That isn't hard at all... here is an excerpt of the Surgeon General's "The Health Consequences of Involuntary Exposure to Tobacco Smoke" (the link to the report follows):

FACT: Secondhand smoke exposure causes disease and premature death in children and adults who do not smoke.

Supporting Evidence

Secondhand smoke contains hundreds of chemicals known to be toxic or carcinogenic (cancer-causing), including formaldehyde, benzene, vinyl chloride, arsenic, ammonia, and hydrogen cyanide.

Secondhand smoke has been designated as a known human carcinogen (cancer-causing agent) by the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency, National Toxicology Program and the International Agency for Research on Cancer (IARC). The National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health has concluded that secondhand smoke is an occupational carcinogen.

FACT: Children exposed to secondhand smoke are at an increased risk for sudden infant death syndrome (SIDS), acute respiratory infections, ear problems, and more severe asthma. Smoking by parents causes respiratory symptoms and slows lung growth in their children.

Supporting Evidence

Children who are exposed to secondhand smoke are inhaling many of the same cancer-causing substances and poisons as smokers. Because their bodies are developing, infants and young children are especially vulnerable to the poisons in secondhand smoke.

Both babies whose mothers smoke while pregnant and babies who are exposed to secondhand smoke after birth are more likely to die from sudden infant death syndrome (SIDS) than babies who are not exposed to cigarette smoke.

Babies whose mothers smoke while pregnant or who are exposed to secondhand smoke after birth have weaker lungs than unexposed babies, which increases the risk for many health problems.

Among infants and children, secondhand smoke cause bronchitis and pneumonia, and increases the risk of ear infections.

Secondhand smoke exposure can cause children who already have asthma to experience more frequent and severe attacks.

FACT: The scientific evidence indicates that there is no risk-free level of exposure to secondhand smoke.

Supporting Evidence

Short exposures to secondhand smoke can cause blood platelets to become stickier, damage the lining of blood vessels, decrease coronary flow velocity reserves, and reduce heart rate variability, potentially increasing the risk of a heart attack.

Secondhand smoke contains many chemicals that can quickly irritate and damage the lining of the airways. Even brief exposure can result in upper airway changes in healthy persons and can lead to more frequent and more asthma attacks in children who already have asthma.

Among others. You can read the full report at http://www.surgeongeneral.gov/library/se...

And, since you're at it, also take a look at the American Lung Association's report at http://www.lungusa.org/site/pp.asp?c=dvL...

These are pretty credible to me, especially after reading some of the source reports and research materials. I wouldn't want my kids around smokers who don't "see a problem" with secondhand smoking...

-- Posted by unilib on Fri, Sep 21, 2007, at 3:19 PM

Hey Nick,

Since you don't know me from Adam and likewise, I guess my citing of a personal experience holds as much water as your argument about; "The warrior is simply an expendable commodity. One to be used up and consumed in the process of achieving those ill-gotten profits."

Great speech to sheeple, but since I know those words of duty, honor, country have meaning to those who serve, your assessment of a recorded bugler as "bad form" is idiotic. Though it does have merit. It is hard to fill the position with a true bugler for all the Military Honors funerals these days. With all the vets from WWII, Korea, Vietnam, ECT coming of age. In a perfect world, a lone bugler would start belting out the tune that STILL brings tears to my eyes, at the conclusion of a funeral. It's closure. Day is done. Gone the sun. For Mom, dad, wife, son, daughter it's finality. Focus should be on the meaning of the song not those rubber necking to see if it's a recording. If it is such a disheartening offense to have a bad tape played for a grieving family of a fallen soldier, or an "expendable commodity" as you say. Why don't YOU take up the cause? I'm sure that 20 minutes a day. Three days a week and you too could have a Bo Flex body and learn the "bone chilling" (quote from zoieain97) tune.

"In their eyes, he is a number, a consumable; nothing more." True, there has been a tally since OIF Day one of the American body count. It reads like a greedy, sweaty, slothly, accountant from hell. Enjoying the job of tacking up another KIA and the media has been there mimicking the same salivation in the evening broadcasts. I bet you know the exact number of today's body count. Plus, those who have fallen, shot, blown up, bled out, (lets call it what it is) are not looked upon as heroes or shown respect. "The government has no compassion for these men..." I fully agree, especially when you're looking at which side of the aisle the disrespecting is coming from. Murtha, Pelosi, Hellary (shudder) they sure do have moving but respect for our soldiers. Funny, I have nothing BUT contempt for them.

Back to the terrorist training camps...I guess they could have been there AFTER the invasion. Not likely because one of the Marine bases was within 200 yards of its location and the Intel guys were having a field day with it. Sorry, I have no proof...so shoot holes in my statement. You can do it all day for I care. Don't believe me. I enjoy that better, but I know what's happening not because of citing sources, but by getting my hands dirty.

Blame Bush and the BIG corporations.

Good chat so far.

-- Posted by fajar154 on Fri, Sep 21, 2007, at 3:24 PM


PLEASE! Listen I don't smoke but I do not fear a smoker who is smoking outside for Gods sake!Do you think for one silly minute that when you are outside ANYWHERE except

perhaps in a wilderness 200 miles from any city your not breathing far more polluted

air then that little cigarette smoke that

has already been inhaled by a smoker!I am

looking out my window right now and I can't count the number of vehicles traveling up and down the street.The emissions these vehicles put into the atmosphere around you

far exceedes any little group of smokers outside!Lets not forget the smoke you are seeing these days to the south of Cape where

the farmers are burning off their fields.I hear no complaints about that!If you walk by a group of smokers outside I suggest you hold your breath until you pass them by,but in doing so you have held into your lungs 10 times the carbon monoxide and other gases then a few smokers could produce.Smokers do have rights believe it or not and cigarettes

and cigars are legal.You folks out there who want to see it banned are nothing more then prohibitionist and we all know how well prohibition works don't we!!

-- Posted by GREYWOLF on Fri, Sep 21, 2007, at 3:54 PM


President Pimpin, I mean Clinton was not impeached for a blue dress, an Oral Exam, or having or not having sexual relations with that woman, Ms. Lewinksi. He was impeached for lying under oath. Nothing more!

-- Posted by DARTHJASON on Fri, Sep 21, 2007, at 4:01 PM

Sometimes it is to easy to pick apart some of the weak arguments posted on this blog? For instance using the injured and death count for justification to impeach a president would mean we would have certainly impeached the likes of Lincoln and Truman. Whether you agree with the war or not we are there and we should stay till the job is done. If this country would have had the likes of some of the present day anti war morons and like minded media back in world war two we would be speaking japanese or german or possiby both. By the way before another ignorant anti war moron responds with why dont you join. I am an honorably discharged navy veteran. All of those serving currently Voluntered! Guess what if you join the military there is a chance you might go to war. God Bless The Troops!

-- Posted by J Purcell on Fri, Sep 21, 2007, at 4:25 PM


Careful I think your blood pressure is up.

I watch you Locals everyday on here and enjoy it.Is MJB banned ?

Hope your Wife is fine


-- Posted by DaveB on Fri, Sep 21, 2007, at 4:36 PM

Hilleco, True. Then you have to have the courts say that they then indeed broke constitutional law and convict them.

-- Posted by DARTHJASON on Fri, Sep 21, 2007, at 4:38 PM


FYI GOD is not spelled with a dash.Surely you are not afraid to use the word correctly.

Or are you?I did get your point however.

-- Posted by GREYWOLF on Fri, Sep 21, 2007, at 4:44 PM


Been out of town for a bit. If I understood your post, is your wife back in the hospital?? If she is, I wish her a speedy recovery.

Unilib, sorry, but you never addressed the question. It was about second hand smoke OUTSIDE. All of your points of proof of second hand smoke was from close quarters and in the home. I maybe wrong, but being from Calif. originally I know that it is more harmful to breath everyday air outside then it is to breath in second hand smoke. I have neices and nephews with COPD that live in Calif. and none of their parents smoke, or allow smoking in their house or cars.

Telling it like it is... first off German was spoken in my household so your point is moot. And, I have spoken to several military personell that have been in Iraq, and none of them were "****** that I said I supported them and not the War". Some agreed that we shouldn't be there. But, at the same time they volunteered for service and knew they could be asked to go to war. So, yes, I do believe you can support the troops and not the War without being a peacenic or unpatriotic as you have claimed on here many times. I do my job, and they do theirs as it should be. Does not mean that I always like my boss.


-- Posted by notsureitssafeinhere on Fri, Sep 21, 2007, at 6:11 PM

I may be mistaken but didn't Japan attack us on 7 Dec 1941 at Pearl Harbor? Didn't we go to the aid of our allies during WWII? Now did Iraq attack us? Did Iraq attack our allies? I don't see the correlation.

-- Posted by cannedheat on Fri, Sep 21, 2007, at 6:35 PM

"This conjunction of an immense military establishment and a large arms industry is new in the American experience. The total influence -- economic, political, even spiritual -- is felt in every city, every Statehouse, every office of the Federal government. We recognize the imperative need for this development. Yet we must not fail to comprehend its grave implications. Our toil, resources and livelihood are all involved; so is the very structure of our society. "

This was our late President Eisenhower's

words in 1961 which are part of his last

address to the American People.

He is speaking of the Military Industrial

Complex and giving us a warning!

As it now seems,we were not paying attention!

I hope all of you will take the time and google his speech.Read it and perhaps these

things we see happening today will be much clearer to all of you.

-- Posted by GREYWOLF on Fri, Sep 21, 2007, at 7:15 PM

Hilleco you cant be as ignorant as your comments suggest. I believe you are a modern day archie bunker on a blog portraying idiotic ideas to spur debate. If not then you dont understand and I am sorry for you and all those who know you. If lincoln would not have taken the strong stance that he did this country as we know it would not exist.. AS to truman he made decisions that saved hundreds of thousands of american lives and preserved freedom in the world.

-- Posted by J Purcell on Fri, Sep 21, 2007, at 7:25 PM

Tamelaj: Please don't be afraid of anyone here. Only a few make threats and call you names. Most are willing to discuss on a level and are open to ideas other than their own. There really is some good information passed here if you read and try to learn. For one Hilleco has given me some economic information I would never have thought about. Greywolf has been able to straighten my thoughts out for me at times. Oldvet has a passion against war, makes me believe he had seen too much. There are others but not gonna name them all. Lots of information passes here everyday.

-- Posted by cannedheat on Fri, Sep 21, 2007, at 8:43 PM

Well hilleco is much more liberal than I thought. Yes that is an excellent idea, drop a bomb in the middle of the ocean then tell the japanese that if they dont surrender we will drop it on them. In the mean time they improve defenses where needed and are all the more guarded making it harder to accomplish the mission. The facts are war is brutal and ugly and the second you start fighting politically correct wars you will not win them. You must absolutely crush the enemy and it must be clear that it is surrender or your civilization and culture as you know it will end. Your brand of war although more humane ultimately would cost many more american lives.

-- Posted by J Purcell on Fri, Sep 21, 2007, at 8:51 PM

By the way I believe that we are fighting a politically correct war in iraq and that troubles me greatly.

-- Posted by J Purcell on Fri, Sep 21, 2007, at 8:54 PM

Telling it like it is: I agree we are fighting a political war. Both Democrats and Republicans. I do not support this invasion, however if we are going to fight it at least have the guts to put 500,000 troops in and get it over with. If not then pull the troops out and bring them home. This is just killing people for the gain of others.

-- Posted by cannedheat on Fri, Sep 21, 2007, at 9:15 PM

For those of you who criticized the English teacher for beginning a sentence with "and", did you stop to consider that if the post was called in, not submitted by internet, the speaker may not have started with the and. Maybe they paused. The person who transcribes this may have started the sentence with the and. And no, despite what this one source says, it is still NOT correct to start a sentence with "and". Here's why: "and" is a conjunction, which means it joins words or groups of words within a sentence. If the "and" is at the beginning, it is joining nothing and is therefore used incorrectly.

Just because you can find it online or in one or two sources doesn't mean it's true. The sources have to be credible and backed up by other credible sources. MLA, APA, Chicago Style and any decent grammar book will tell you that starting a sentence with an "and" creates a sentence fragment.

-- Posted by SEMOfan80 on Fri, Sep 21, 2007, at 9:19 PM

Semofan80: You really didn't need to dredge up those painful memories of MLA, APA and other styles of papers. I had tried to file those away under never needed again. Thanks for giving me a headache.

-- Posted by cannedheat on Fri, Sep 21, 2007, at 9:33 PM

I believe President Bush had the CIA place explosives in the World Trade Towers and flew remote controlled aircraft into them. The Pentagon was hit by a missile fired from a US Air Force fighter jet.

-- Posted by workin' them angels on Fri, Sep 21, 2007, at 10:53 PM

workin' them angels

AND Hitler really was a woman. AND the Moon Wlak was done in A California Studio. AND Elvis is alive in Germany hanging with David 'The Hoff" Hasselhoff. AND I does really taste like butter.

Have a great weekend folks!

-- Posted by fajar154 on Fri, Sep 21, 2007, at 11:02 PM

workin' them angels - it's probably too late to get a response now, but I simply can't help myself. I have to know. Exactly how do you work angels? Does it involve some sort of harness or whip? Or do you simply keep them at it night and day? Or did you possibly misspell angles? I'm truly sorry for being such a smart@$$.

-- Posted by nuit_de_trois_chiens on Fri, Sep 21, 2007, at 11:40 PM

fat receipts: I find that if I always carry a small zippered handbag with me which I purchased specifically for this purpose, I can take those extra-long receipts, fold them over twice, tuck them into said handbag, and peruse them later at my leisure. Now when I get home and have disposed my purchases, I retrieve the bulky receipt from my small zippered handbag and trim off the offensive portion, be it coupons, offers to rate service, or the gibberish found at the bottom of said chit. This results in a manageable piece of paper which can then be filed alphabetically by item acquired, by date, or by store name. Thus, I completely and adroitly avoid the whole extra-long receipts and bulked up wallet syndrome. You may feel free to follow my example.

-- Posted by nuit_de_trois_chiens on Fri, Sep 21, 2007, at 11:58 PM

Alas, I'm the last living soul this evening to still be reading the newspaper. If I wait a few more minutes I can get a head start on Saturday's edition!

-- Posted by nuit_de_trois_chiens on Sat, Sep 22, 2007, at 12:01 AM

to fajar154: WRONG!!! Elvis is dead. But Tupac is alive and well and currently living in the little white house where Elvis was born a lonely twin in Tupelo, Mississippi.

-- Posted by nuit_de_trois_chiens on Sat, Sep 22, 2007, at 12:04 AM

"scuse" - should read "living in the little white house in Tupelo, Mississippi where Elvis was born a lonely twin."

-- Posted by nuit_de_trois_chiens on Sat, Sep 22, 2007, at 12:08 AM

SEMOfan80 - things have changed and you have not kept up since you graduated from SEMO. I'm sure you are the expert - after all you graduated from SEMO.

You do know these rules are "man-made" and not God-given, don't you?




-- Posted by justforfun on Sat, Sep 22, 2007, at 12:24 AM

Just as I found the meaning of "three canine nights"[; google it.

At least it isn't French.

-- Posted by workin' them angels on Sat, Sep 22, 2007, at 2:14 AM

Workin', ya got me truly feelin' like a fool. I SAID I was sorry for being a smartazz, right? Actually, I was just trying to be funny. Carry on, faithful warrior!

-- Posted by nuit_de_trois_chiens on Sat, Sep 22, 2007, at 12:15 PM

Tamelaj and Greywolf: I'm not advocating bans, I was just concerned that the issue of secondhand smoking was being trivialized. I see now that the post was referring solely to secondhand smoking outdoors only.

I know that cigarettes are legal and that a person has the right to smoke, and that smoking outside gives nonsmokers the chance to steer away from the smoke (that quickly vanishes into the air anyway). No problem there. But I felt some sympathy for the poster's daughter at SEMO fair: I was there too, as many of you were, and it was indeed impossible to go anywhere without inhaling secondhand smoke. My opinion is that a high concentration of smokers outdoors makes secondhand smoking just as dangerous to kids as smoking indoors.

-- Posted by unilib on Sat, Sep 22, 2007, at 4:38 PM

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