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Speak Out 8/14/07

Tuesday, August 14, 2007

Street repairs

SPEAK OUT, I want to thank you for printing the notice about the pavement being buckled out there by Kies Eyecare Center on Mount Auburn. The city is now fixing it as of today. Speak Out, we appreciate you putting it in the paper, and city of Cape Girardeau, we appreciate you coming out and fixing it. Thank you.

Free for taxpayers

THREE RIVERS Community College says it wants to set up a center in Cape Girardeau that will be free to taxpayers and less expensive for students. Where's the downside? Sounds to me like we ought to tell them come on over. Well, if it's free for taxpayers, that's a whole lot better than any of the other schools we have in the area. It's going to be cheaper for students.

Underground tanks

All this hype about the temperature and the gas that you receive at the pump is blown way out of proportion. I don't doubt it makes some difference, but gas storage tanks are all underground now.

Need tax refund

I JUST read the comment "Roll back taxes." I agree 200 percent. The school district is a form of the government. The school district thinks there's an endless supply of money. My property taxes went up 10 percent this year. Now the district has a surplus. Isn't that amazing? We need a refund on our taxes.

Target: middle class

THERE ARE those in the middle class who would not or could not accept that their lifestyle has been attacked for years. Outsourcing of jobs and so-called globalization have compressed individual and family wages in America. Are Americans wrong to want a living wage? If Mexicans are paid $6 a day in Mexico and the Chinese are paid $1 a day, is that what America wants for the middle class? Where will our government officials get the tax dollars to pay their ever-increasing pay scales? Their medical expenses and retirement have to come from somewhere. Off-shoring of corporate headquarters can escape U.S. taxes that support our nation's expenses and our troops. Why is anyone surprised that homes are being lost with so many jobs outsourced to benefit many corporations in comparison to the middle-class way of life? The government gives millions of dollars in tax breaks to oil corporations while the oil companies are raking record profits. The Nathan Cooper exposure shows how far fellow Americans and businesses will go to compress jobs and incomes of our workers and the middle-class citizens of America.

Thanks for nothing

THANK YOU, state Rep. Nathan Cooper, for nothing. I was fighting a 35-year-old DUI in Illinois, and you could not help me, one of your constituents. You blew me off and said I'd just have to go through the process. Look at you now. What have you done? You stood up for immigrants getting illegal truck driving jobs and you won't even help your own. God help you.

Party defense

IT'S LAUGHABLE that local Republicans are defending Nathan Cooper, stating that his illegal actions were not done in the course of his official duties. Of course those actions were done in his position as a legislator. If Nathan Cooper were just some regular lawyer from Southeast Missouri, he never would have been in a position to orchestrate this scheme. By the way, Democrats are no better when it comes to defending one of their own.

Shocked, surprised

ISN'T IT amazing that when a politician, Republican or Democrat, gets caught doing something illegal, close allies always act shocked and surprised.

Stop the thefts

WHY AREN'T Cape Girar-deau officials taking thefts more seriously? If you read the police reports, there have been at least 40 cases of theft in Cape Girardeau this summer alone. When is it going to be enough? I understand that no one has been physically harmed by these thefts, but do we want it to get that far? These people who are stealing from areas around town are getting away. Who knows what they will try next to suit their addiction? Is it going to take a city official to get robbed for justice to be sought? It will take more than one dedicated officer to stop these thefts.

Light sentence

THREE CAPE Girardeau residents mug and rob a pizza delivery man. One admits guilt and cooperates in the conviction of another of the three. The cooperating perpetrator gets nine years for his offense. Nathan Cooper commits multiple federal offenses that have national security implications, admits guilt and offers evidence against other perpetrators. He gets 30 to 36 months as a pending sentence. I'm not saying that nine years for the mugging and robbery was wrong. I am saying that 30 to 36 months for major federal offenses is dead wrong. Morley Swingle could have made the situation more just by pursuing and obtaining a conviction and sentencing of Cooper on state criminal violations. He refuses to do so. A Republican prosecuting attorney being soft on crime committed by a Republican state legislator is dead wrong.

Employer liability

WHY ARE the employers who profited from the New Zealand drivers not being prosecuted and fined or jailed? All employers who were in this charade have used the program and know without any doubt that they had to be the employer named on the visas for it to be legal. They abused the system more than the immigration lawyer.

Prosecution victim

NATHAN COOPER should be pardoned immediately. He is obviously the victim of an overzealous prosecutor and political theater.

Ready for progress

LAST WEEK I read a comment that illustrated the shortsightedness of a lot of people. This person said he was happy to see that young adults are "maturing" by feeling that this city is boring. The only reason we feel this town is boring is because we feel the city is stuck, and any attempt to get it moving forward is blocked. It's bad when so many of the best and brightest young people feel they have to leave this town because they see no future in Cape Girardeau. The sad thing is Cape was once the most cutting-edge city in the region. By the turn of the last century, Cape was the first city to have the railroad, electricity and telephones in this part of Missouri. How far has our city moved? It's time to let us young people get this town moving and everybody else stay out of the way of progress.

More parking

I THINK the taxes going to the new federal courthouse, which seems to be a joke, should go to making better parking for Southeast Missouri State University. It's important that today's youths get a good education, and they need parking space in order to go to college.

Racism isn't funny

I'M NOT a school teacher, nor do I work for or have a family member who teaches. With that said, how dare someone make such a comment as "Retried teacher always think schooling was better in the good old days when they first began teaching or even better when they were in school themselves or, best of all in, the 1950s and earlier when many schools districts practiced de facto or de jure racial segregation." Only a racist would make such a comment and accuse another of it. I've heard so many racist remarks from individuals who claim they can't be a racist, so it isn't funny. What is worse is to be shopping and hear individuals from calling another person a name that, had I said it, I would be threatened with my life. When respect for others was tossed out of school, the results are what we see now. Racism is not funny, and it is sad to be accused of it by one who portrays it to the fullest.

Space advantages

I AM disheartened to see that some are still unaware of the debt modernity owes to the space industry. Satellites allow for GPS, cell phones and remote intelligence gathering, all of which are vital to defense. As for commercial viability in the private sector, there are many companies already investing in orbiting space hotels, lunar real estate and helium-3, a plentiful and clean fuel source on the moon that will power the 21st century.

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Re: Underground tanks

The big deal with the hot fuel issue, is that gasoline (like ALL liquids) expands as it warms, and therefore a gallon at 70 degrees has less BTU's per gallon than a gallon at 60 degrees. 60 degrees is the temperature at which the standard for the gallon of fuel that you pump into your tank is figured...so if the fuel at that service station is selling "hot fuel"....fuel that is ABOVE that 60 degrees in temperature....you are not getting what you paid for. While it may not be a big deal to you...possibly only going through 20 gallons or so per week commuting back and forth to work, for a professional driver using 80-100 gallons per day, it is a large sum of money lost during the course of a year. Not all tanks are in the ground, and just because the tank is in the ground does not mean that it will keep the fuel at 60 degrees. The technology exists to compensate for temperature differences at the pump, and we ought to be using this technology to ensure that every gallon bought is actually the standardized gallon of gasoline.

-- Posted by dixietrucker on Tue, Aug 14, 2007, at 12:57 AM

Would someone with the Southeast Missourian please give MJB his own blog so the rest of us can do something other then be bedazzled by his inherit need to display the 'intellect' which he wants to regale us with EACH and EVERY day while monopolizing, or close to it, this area? PLEASE GIVE HIM A CHANCE TO REGALE EVERYONE WITH A BACK PAGE!

-- Posted by KingsKid on Tue, Aug 14, 2007, at 7:02 AM


You are truly, STUPID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and boring. You make me sicko !!!!!!!!! hahahahahaha

-- Posted by Wilsonite on Tue, Aug 14, 2007, at 7:04 AM

With respect to the idea that we are all entitled to our own opinions; I don't know who is taking the time to read through that much information. Please be succint and to the point with your postings. I think more people would take the time to read your ideas.

-- Posted by cabat on Tue, Aug 14, 2007, at 7:26 AM

Again facts from Ballou, name calling from the gallery. Thanks Ballou, I have been following this story with interest. A non protected port in the heartland with a super highway carrying non-safety regulated trucks to a port run by foreign countries. Yeah does sound stupid and boring to some.

-- Posted by cannedheat on Tue, Aug 14, 2007, at 7:28 AM

MJB, you calling out Elizabeth is rude and uncalled for. She has just as much right to post as you do. Your calling her to task is sort of like the pot calling the kettle black.

For those who are tired of MJB's repetitious tirades and disrespectful attitude toward other posters, there's a solution. Sign in and use the icon to report him. If enough people do that, citing his disrespect, repetitious comments, etc., perhaps the administrators of this site will do something about him.

-- Posted by SEMOfan80 on Tue, Aug 14, 2007, at 7:50 AM

It is going to be very hot again today. If you are at work, did you give your dog fresh water before you left? If you forgot, take a long lunch if you can, and go home and give them some fresh water, I bet when you get home tonight, they will give you an extra big lick. Do that at least twice a day, it only takes a couple hours for their buckets to get very hot. If you go to the store, you can get a tarp big enough for alot of shade, for about eight dollars. Get a silver one, they have more backing on them, and it will give your dog(s) a lot of shade. Go ahead and get them a big bone to chew on, they will have something new to keep them occupied during this extremely miserable time. If you have a Black dog, do give them a baby pool to get in if they wish. Put the baby pool under the tarp and the dog, just may lay n that water, and enjoy his day. Think about how we feel just for minutes outside, your loving companion is out there all day. Do not throw that ball, to hot. Instead put some treats in a toy and let them lay on your lap. Have a COOL day.

-- Posted by youareabunchaspunks on Tue, Aug 14, 2007, at 8:57 AM

i don't think everyone should get out of the way and let the young do their thing ("progress") but i do think that the citizens of cape girardeau should listen to what the younger generation has to say. and incorporate us into your plans, projects, and programs (instead of dismissing us as immature or inexperienced). all sides should take the others seriously and cooperate to amke this city stronger.

-- Posted by noomanaut on Tue, Aug 14, 2007, at 9:06 AM

You better watch those TRCC folk. If you think it will be tax-free and cost us in Cape nothing I have some Florida oil land to sell you. They are the ones who frivilously sued SEMO. They charge almost as much as SEMO does at those sites and with all those hidden costs!!! This Cape deal is revenge motivated and announced prematurely to get back at Dr. Dobbins! TRCC hasn't even asked the state board yet

-- Posted by Sam on Tue, Aug 14, 2007, at 10:13 AM

Mr Ballou:

I told you so, I just cant believe that you (as smart as you think you are) think that you can post these 700 to 1000 word post an no one will complain. Not everyone here is a truck driver or some one that works in the ports. I am ( a Trucker) and I agree that it is a important issue for the American people to know about. But first you have to get them interested. You my long winded friend are not Interesting. Keep trying.

-- Posted by Piledriver on Tue, Aug 14, 2007, at 10:25 AM


-- Posted by Piledriver on Tue, Aug 14, 2007, at 10:27 AM

-- Posted by poorteachr on Tue, Aug 14, 2007, at 10:28 AM

MJB is a cyber-bully. Some people are small fish in big ponds and can't adjust to the reality of it. Let him rant. It's probably his only form of social contact that can be sustained for more than a minute!

-- Posted by poorteachr on Tue, Aug 14, 2007, at 10:33 AM


Ballou does not type all those words, are you kidding me?What he does is search all these conspiracy sites on the net and any other crap he can find to substantiate his complete hatred for his Country and he copies and then post the crap here for all of us to either read or pass by.He does not think for himself because his mind is clouded by all the tirades he reads in the net.Now,he does have every right to do this but most of his post are nothing but foolishness.I think he may be a terrorist living right here in Cape.I wish he would move to Iraq and hang out with all of those

Less then human animals!That won't happen though because he is a chicken s--t!

-- Posted by GREYWOLF on Tue, Aug 14, 2007, at 10:40 AM


All I have to say in response to your long-winded opinion of what you believe the role of a woman is today is WOW. I am thoroughly not surprised that you have no wife. Who on EARTH would want to deal with your self-righteous opinions on how she should act as a wife and mother. I personally would be just as happy as a stay-at-home mother as I am as a working mom, but that is MY choice, not yours or anyone else's. Every woman gets to make that choice. My mother worked for a living, as did my father and my step-dad. They all worked because they had to. Full-time jobs, might I add. And all three of them have college educations. We would not have eaten if mom hadn't worked! My mother is not a "cook from scratch" kind of lady, but I never went hungry and she is very proud of my interest in cooking, but it's not for her. She is proud of looking good after having five children, but that does not mean we were ever neglected by her desire to be healthy and in shape. Your opinions and beliefs are outdated and many of the "facts" you stated (i.e. divorce rates, educational status of children) are dead wrong. The woman you have described is June Cleaver and research has shown that that was never a reality in America. Mrs. Cleaver was made up by Hollywood and sadly many people, such as you, took it to be a reality.

Again, WOW.

-- Posted by hisgirl321 on Tue, Aug 14, 2007, at 10:48 AM

At least Ballou don't flip flop on the fact that he hates everything about the American society that we live in. I have ask him just a few days ago if there was anything that he liked and he didn't answer. He has convinced a few of you that he is the all knowing all powerful OZ of Cape Girardeau but in fact he is a scared little man that cant even think for himself. He depends on articles from the Sci-fie magazines and web sites to conjure up conspiracies that we all should believe or perish. I wonder what he would be like if he stopped taking his medication. Here is one to scare you Mr. Ballou google Haiti Ufo.

-- Posted by Piledriver on Tue, Aug 14, 2007, at 10:54 AM

Amen Elizabeth. And why has this paper lost many of their online readers??

-- Posted by Wildnsyko on Tue, Aug 14, 2007, at 11:07 AM


Those who live in glass houses shouldn't throw rocks. You have no place in degrading Mr. Ballou.

As I remember You through an absolute fit when pappa clause questioned your fitness as a soldier in Vietnam. He said you were probably smoking pot hiding in a hole. As I remember you gave him hell. Then in the last week you have told us about your past and present drug use including micro-dot and LSD. And how you were going to light up real soon. That's right greywolf most people here really do pay attention to whats posted.

So clean your own house before speaking with hatred toward any one.

-- Posted by Piledriver on Tue, Aug 14, 2007, at 11:19 AM

Had heard of the North American Union and the trans Texas corridor highway but really thought it was something made up for votes. Turns out it is not. If anyone thinks this is scary get some information and call your Representatives. Are we headed in the same direction taken by the European Union, one money, open borders and basically a single nation?

-- Posted by lvsholeflow on Tue, Aug 14, 2007, at 11:28 AM

Me thinks Sam is a SEMO Administrator, he doth protest too much.

-- Posted by cannedheat on Tue, Aug 14, 2007, at 11:56 AM

I agree hisgirl321! MJB reminds me of my ex husband, LOL, well if my ex could ever speak as clearly as MJB.

Sorry MJB, divorce is a part of life, the church isn't what people revolve around any more and therefore no one sticks around when it all hits the fan. No one has any respect for one another any more.

No doubt that some mothers "back in the day" were just like you described, however I have to agree with "hisgirl321", there were some mothers (even back in the '50s) who had to work and depend on restaurants and other family members to help feel and watch their kids.

-- Posted by foodie on Tue, Aug 14, 2007, at 12:11 PM

I have NO house to clean Son!Piledriver or Ballou or Papa Clause or whoever you think you are!Your nothing but a complainer.What I said in fun was just that!FUN!My God you idiot don't you understand humour when you read it!Ballou is a paranoid idiot just like you and probably shoots crank to stay up all night and post his foolishness here just like you!Yes I did survive the 60s and by God enjoyed every minute.And Yes I did serve my Country without drugs or complaining!Sorry

PILE,that you defend a fool like Ballou.Of course you probably are Ballou in which case you are a fool as well.You said"clean your house before speaking with hatred toward anyone"you my friend and Ballou are typical

coward hypocrites that dish it out but can't take it!

-- Posted by GREYWOLF on Tue, Aug 14, 2007, at 12:15 PM


I didn't mean to include you with the likes of greywolf. Its just that he was talking with you when he admitted his drug use both past and present. I in no way meant to say that you are a user as well. I hope that you didn't take it that way.

-- Posted by Piledriver on Tue, Aug 14, 2007, at 12:54 PM

Ballou is being manipulated by the establishment so as to allow the rest of you to waste your energies by continually responding to his erroneous, ridiculous rants to the point that you're too exhausted to work to bring about any meaningful, progressive change. Indeed, Ballou may well be a member of the establishment's power structure.

-- Posted by philosopher king on Tue, Aug 14, 2007, at 12:57 PM

One other thing greywolf. I'm not your son.

Don't call me that again. My father is a real hero. A drug free veteran of the Korean war.

-- Posted by Piledriver on Tue, Aug 14, 2007, at 12:58 PM

Can't we all just get along?

-- Posted by Rodney King on Tue, Aug 14, 2007, at 1:02 PM

Rodney King:

Yes we can get along. Just one little thing, if your going to make claims of grandeur and super human intelligence you shouldn't lie about it. Others may be paying attention to it and flush you out in the future.

Honesty means nothing to others if your not honest to yourself.

A liar will always expose himself.

-- Posted by Piledriver on Tue, Aug 14, 2007, at 1:11 PM

Perhaps piledriver can further enlighten us as to the connection between Cooper and Pullen Brother's Trucking.

-- Posted by philosopher king on Tue, Aug 14, 2007, at 1:22 PM

We dont need any further enlightenment. He has pled guilty now he needs a sentence to fit the crime. 8 to 10 years the way I see it. By the way PK do you think Matt Blunt was here to talk about Capes down town efforts or to see Cooper?

-- Posted by Piledriver on Tue, Aug 14, 2007, at 1:29 PM

Well, piledriver, do you expect Cooper to cut a deal and take others down with him, so as to get a reduced sentence? This is one theory as to why his sentencing is being delayed until October. If you are wise as you claim to be, surely you have some inside info to share with the group.

-- Posted by philosopher king on Tue, Aug 14, 2007, at 2:34 PM

PK: Do you believe Cooper is guilty or was that your post about overzealous prosecutor and political theater. I took that as a joke since that is the talking point about every person in the administration that gets in trouble. However maybe you did in fact post or phone in that statement.

-- Posted by cannedheat on Tue, Aug 14, 2007, at 3:19 PM

Sometimes MJB can be a bit long winded and harsh in his tone, but if some of you would actually look into what he's talking about, you'd probably get scared. The whole SPP/NAFTA Superhighway deal has been a while in the making and is even listed on Kansas' highway site as 'coming soon.'

Here's the skinny of it. A VERY wide highway is being built from MExico all the way into Canada that is not actually a part of the US, but an international roadway governed like the sea. Kansas City would become a port of entry. In other words, non-inspected and cleared trucks won't have to check with anyone until they hit Kansas City. Kind of a big security risk eh? But more to the point, a big step in making a dream of a North American Union a reality, the US merging with Mexico and Canada.

You may want to kill the messenger, but you can't kill the message. It's totally true.

-- Posted by jumpinjehova on Tue, Aug 14, 2007, at 3:19 PM

Dang, you got my curiosity up and I kept reading the net and finding different stuff. Ballou has been harping on why the border with Mexico has never been secured and what it means. I got to looking up the North American Union and the multinational highway. To make this brief, they led me in many directions, but ended up at WorldNetDaily reading an article by Jerome R. Corsi. He is the fellow who co-authored the book about Swift Boat veterans and John Kerry. Guess that doesn't make him a flaming liberal by any stretch. But he talks about the signing of the "Security and Prosperity Partnership" {SPP} in Waco, TX on March 23, 2005 by President Bush, Mexican President Fox and then Canadian Prime Minister Paul Martin. The SPP works to "establish an outer security perimeter around Mexico, the U.S. and Canada within which the movement of people, products and capital will be legal orderly and safe". Now we know why no efforts have been made to secure the Mexican border. spp.gov

-- Posted by lvsholeflow on Tue, Aug 14, 2007, at 4:24 PM

Mr Ballou,

Are you pulling my chain??? What is wrong with the husband cooking the meal when he gets home. My brothers have done it for years. It's called a 50/50 marriage.

As far as people staying together for the children, that's a crock. If my sister had followed that advice she would be dead. Then where would my niece have ended up?? I am not saying divorce is the answer to all marital problems. Most can and should be worked out, but staying in an enviroment that you hate just so the kids can have two parents isn't helping the children. How good is it for them to be around Mom and Dad when all they do is argue and fight???

I'm just saying not all the problems in the world would be solved if women went back to "wearing their bras in tight sweaters and made HOMEMADE COOKIES".


-- Posted by notsureitssafeinhere on Tue, Aug 14, 2007, at 4:41 PM


You are, what you are and any thing you say about it is just plain SPIN. You can't try and change things now.

Mike Ballou believes every word that he writes to be the truth, therefore I cannot and will not call him a liar. You however say one thing and when asked about it start the name calling. That's a common response from a drug abuser. Now that your caught why don't you admit it and get some help???

-- Posted by Piledriver on Tue, Aug 14, 2007, at 5:11 PM

Just food for thought for all the hawks here. 41 Americans have been killed so far this month in Iraq. Today, 175 Iraqis were killed by 4 suicide bombers in northern Iraq. The spin masters were saying see the surge is working, they weren't killed in Baghdad. What a crock!! Insurgents go where you aren't. So the surge in Baghdad drove them out to other areas, lets go to northern Iraq and see where they pop up next. Whack a mole is what this game is called, we learned it in Viet Nam. We continue to make the same mistakes over, but of course God is tell Georgie what to do. Spin this you chicken-hawks.

-- Posted by oldvet on Tue, Aug 14, 2007, at 6:50 PM

Forgot this, chicken-hawk is the same as coward.

-- Posted by oldvet on Tue, Aug 14, 2007, at 6:51 PM

Mr Ballou,

For the most part with further understanding I can appreciate where you are coming from. I agree with some of your thoughts, but enjoy the fact that you let me disagree with some of them as well.

Thank you.

-- Posted by notsureitssafeinhere on Tue, Aug 14, 2007, at 7:15 PM

Oldvet.........Sounds like you are just a tad miffed.

-- Posted by cannedheat on Tue, Aug 14, 2007, at 7:18 PM

Oldvet, you can have my spot in the anger management class I used to go to, it is paid.

-- Posted by cannedheat on Tue, Aug 14, 2007, at 7:40 PM

Today I attacked another blogger for something he or she had said. I cast the first stone. After awhile I realized that was not the purpose of blogging I vowed to never do it again. This should be a place people can come to discuss the issues. It seems today the main issue is MJB. Typically, I read one paragraph of his blog and move on skipping what he has to say because I recognize his opinion as something I don't care to read, nor respond to. In this forum people will say things you don't agree with, they will pick fights with you, but the catch is you don't have to deal with them. Lets keep this what it is suppossed to be a place for people to discuss ideas and issues. Now, some people might find this hard to swallow so those of you who do just move on and ignore me and I promise I'll ignore you.

-- Posted by captainmysterious on Tue, Aug 14, 2007, at 10:01 PM

I contribute to the care of many during my day. I work at a full time job to support the thousands that the government says I must support. I take care of my family during the evening, when opportunity comes my way. I read articles that are enlightening and open the mind to the truth. I read the paper and try to avoid the ramblings of those that either have such an open mind that it falls out or one so closed that it stinks from decay. I would be willing to read yours, too, MJB, if you got right to the point and stayed on it instead of jumping around so much or dragging it to the point of destruction. I don't have a lot of time to waste, so I can't weed through what I consider to be ramblings. I sometimes enjoy the banter between differing opinions but can't stand the name calling, of which I am guilty of at times when the emotion of anger arises and takes control. You see, I do contribute to the day even if you don't see it. And truth be told, it is not your opinion of what I contribute that matters anyway. So call me out if you wish but expect delay in my answer due to my contributing to the betterment of those that need me.

-- Posted by KingsKid on Tue, Aug 14, 2007, at 10:46 PM

MJB, you asked what would happen to my numerous posts under various names. I don't know what you're talking about. I have one name here, semofan80, and that's it. Of course, you can't check that, but it's true nontheless. Also, I'm not a child, nor do I watch Survivor or Real World or whatever the other show was. I'm middle-aged and while I don't watch lots of TV, I mostly watch news programs, sports, nature programs, etc. So you've got me pegged all wrong, which doesn't surprise me. I'm not upset that you came here and upset our little chat; in fact, you were already here when I joined in. Again, you're wrong on that count.

Like I said before, I was pretty sure I knew who you are. You sidestepped my questions before and that's okay. I've realized you can't be that person because he would never treat people the way you do here. He shares some of your ideas, but he is much more respectful and by being so, he actually makes people think and see that he has made some good points. You seem to be incapable of doing that, which is really sad.

As I've said before, you have some interesting ideas, but they get so lost in the rhetoric and lambasting and are, for the most part, lost or ignored. Oh well, your choice. I used to read every word of your posts. Now I can identify them in the first line and I scroll on by. I won't engage you in "discussion" again.

-- Posted by SEMOfan80 on Tue, Aug 14, 2007, at 11:33 PM

Nicely put, Elizabeth.

-- Posted by SEMOfan80 on Tue, Aug 14, 2007, at 11:34 PM

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